Its in the jet fuel

[lightgiver]

Yes its in the fuel folks.:eek:

Prof Flannery, the 2007 Australian of the Year, said the sulphur could be dispersed above the earth's surface by adding it to jet fuel.

He conceded there were risks to global dimming via sulphur.

"The consequences of doing that are unknown."

WHAT A BUNCH OF ASS HOLES :mad::mad::mad:

Flannery is also the chairman of the Copenhagen Climate Council, an international climate change awareness group.

and this thrown in the mix,we have absolute NUTTERS in charge,and we allow it.

Professor Chossoduvsky of the University of Ottawa wrote a report on weather warfare and HAARP, stating "Recent scientific evidence suggests that HAARP is fully operational and has the ability of potentially triggering floods, droughts, hurricanes and earthquakes. From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction. Potentially, it constitutes an instrument of conquest capable of selectively destabilising agricultural and ecological systems of entire regions.

Professor Flannery says placing sulphur gas into the earth's stratosphere could keep out the sun's rays and slow global warming.

Scientist Tim Flannery has proposed a radical solution to climate change which may change the colour of the sky.

But he says it may be necessary, as the "last barrier to climate collapse."

Professor Flannery says climate change is happening so quickly that mankind may need to pump sulphur into the atmosphere to survive.

Australia's best-known expert on global warming has updated his climate forecast for the world - and it's much worse than he thought just three years ago.

He has called for a radical suite of emergency measures to be put in place.

The gas sulphur could be inserted into the earth's stratosphere to keep out the sun's rays and slow global warming, a process called global dimming.

"It would change the colour of the sky," Professor Flannery told AAP.

"It's the last resort that we have, it's the last barrier to a climate collapse."

"We need to be ready to start doing it in perhaps five years time if we fail to achieve what we're trying to achieve."

Professor Flannery, the 2007 Australian of the Year, said the sulphur could be dispersed above the earth's surface by adding it to jet fuel.

He conceded there were risks to global dimming via sulphur.

"The consequences of doing that are unknown."

Yeah mars pattern try denying this one :mad::mad:

Climate change my arse,just another excuse to reduce the population you murdering bastards,and just look what evil china is up to.

CHINA has closed 12 highways around the capital Beijing today because of heavy snow brought on after seeding clouds with chemicals.

All outbound highways were closed in Hebei, the drought-hit northern province surrounding Beijing, after heavy snow fell last night, Xinhua news agency said.

In all, 12 highways, including one linking Beijing and Shenyang, capital of northeastern Liaoning province, were closed.

Hebei got its first heavy snow of this year yesterday. The provincial weather bureau said that snow too was "enhanced" by artificial seeding.

"The snow has brought moisture to the soil, which may help end the drought," Guo Yingchun, a senior engineer of the provincial meteorological observatory, was quoted as saying.

She said that 313 cigarette-size sticks of silver iodide were fired into the clouds from (last) night to (this) morning, "a procedure that made the snow a lot heavier."

Hebei forecasters said flurries would continue through tonight in the northern part of the province.

Beijing is enduring its longest drought in 38 years, according to weather bureau records.

Its the messing with all this shit that is causing all the problems in the 1st place and the lies of the elites,i am effing fuming,they all need a taking down,especially the chinese(communist) gits. FFS :mad:

[boots]

What better way to do it. With all those planes flying around it's a mass campaign.

This certainly put's the distractor in the place.

AV gas a special formula just for planes.

[lightgiver]

Undeniable proof of Chemtrails and Haarp,this video will give you all the evidence you need.

a must watch,

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-797879957467471860&ei=Nu6ySdOgD5K22wLau5WKBA&q=alternative+3&hl=en

They are definitely putting it in the fuel amongst other things.

also google Edward teller and chemtrails and Project Cloverleaf, http://www.carnicom.com/mgr1.htm

[lightgiver]

"PEACE-GAS" IN WELLS' UTOPIA

In H. G. Wells's 1933 book, The Shape of Things to Come legions of airmen drop incapacitating "peace gas" on warring factions to rescue the world from strife-induced medieval barbarism. After pacifying every region of the globe they establish a socialist utopia in which war has no place and disputes are (for awhile) resolved peacefully. Nonlethal weapons make violence obsolete.

As usual, H.G. Wells seemed to have an inside-track on specifics of "things to come". ~ Jackie Jura

Go to ORWELL ON H.G. WELLS

Non-lethal weapons hurt (sick, repugnant and illegal). Wired News, Oct 28, 2002
Joint-Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate (JNLWD), established by Congress in 1997 under Marine Corps command, is obsessed with developing a high-tech arsenal that contravenes USA and international law. "Forcing drugs on large crowds of civilians is sick, repugnant and illegal". Non-lethals include: calmatives, better known as psychotropic, cental nervous system depressants or, more simply, downers inlude such substances as fentanyls (an ultra-potent, heroin-like synthetic) and rohypnol, aka "roofies," the so-called date-rape drug -- as crowd-control machanisms; sedative Precedes, which increases a patient's sensitivity to electroshock, as an instrument of torture; active-denial weapons (ADWs), which fire wide-angle 95 gigahertz electromagnetic waves that heat water molecules in the outer skin and cause debilitating pain (ADWs target innocent bystanders as well as enemies); genetically engineered anti-material agents (GAMAs), man-made micro-organisms that eat things like concrete, metal, asphalt, paint and plastic; veiling-glare lasers, wide-angle laser beams in violet to ultraviolet spectrum will blind enemies by making their eyes fluoresce, that is, glow.

Gas is crowd-control weapon (used by gov't on civilians). New Scientiest, Oct 28, 2002
The mystery gas used to end the hostage crisis at a Moscow theatre could be a secret crowd-control weapon. Such gases are known to be in development by governments who want "non-lethal" ways of dealing with civilians during conflicts. Such agents should have been destroyed under the Chemical Weapons Convention. But the CWC contains what campaigners call a loophole, which allows gases for "law enforcement". Secrecy about the identity of the gas suggests it may well be a compound of military origin, rather than a medical anasthetic. Affected hostages are not being allowed to leave the hospital and relatives cannot visit them, possibly to prevent blood samples being taken that would reveal the identity of the gas.

Russians gassed the hostages (experimented with new chemical). London Independent, Oct 27, 2002 & Russia used Knockout Gas (USA declines to criticize). Fox News, Oct 27, 2002. Go to 14.Scientific Experimentation

or chem trails of peace.:eek:

http://www.orwelltoday.com/wellspeacegas.shtml

[ownoiz]

AV gas a special formula just for planes.

Hey boots, your comment just made me think about something i havent thought about in a long time...hmmm

In the 1990's , AVGAS was beginning to become available across Adelaide at the service station pump, the demand was coming from people with older cars, sports cars, muscle cars/hotted up street/strip cars and the like...high compression engines...even though unleaded had been out since 1986 there was still many cars running on leaded fuel...and ran sweet on AVGAS.

Quite a few petrol stations began to provide at least one AVGAS pump, even one large chain BP franchise had it on a few sites, the biggest in the State IIRC (owned by perecorp)

This went on for a few years until the late 90's, no one seemed to care there were no problems...demand kept going up and up despite the price...so everyone was making money including the oil companies...and i knew a guy that owned a petrol station with an AVGAS pump...i knew him quite well...the fuel was definately the exact same fuel as what went into jets, shipped by the same wholesalers from the same place as where it went to Adelaide airport in the same trucks...

Anyway, one day he tells me the oil companies AND government, just out of nowhere, have made it illegal to use AVGAS in cars and refuse to supply it. Just like that. It was the late 90's or early 2000's if i recall correctly.

Now all high octane fuel wasnt banned, just AVGAS. You could still go buy other high octane leaded fuels from suppliers that were much the same as AVGAS, and cost about the same...just that it wasnt the exact same fuel that went into planes. That stuff was now well and truly illegal and you couldnt get your hands on it unless you had a permit or some such thing (obviously you had to have a plane to get this)

Now my point (finally)

Why did the oil companies and government decide to do a backflip on AVGAS around 2000 when everybody had been making money for years??

What changed?? Was it something in the fuel??

Why cant the common person get his hands on AVGAS easily and why dont they want it in cars...yet the powers that be still couldnt give a toss if you have an older leaded muscle car with 15 to 1 compression pistons that runs on C16 race fuel or the like (virtual rocket fuel) ...All these race fuels can be bought over the counter so to speak...many are even higher octane than AVGAS...

Does this coincide with the apparent apperance of Chemtrails here in the late 90's early 2 thousands??

The timing also coincides with the beginnings of the bad so called droughts here in south eastern Australia and the beginnings of all the talk on global warming/carbon emissions/taxes/Al Gore and polar bears.

This one has got me thinking. The petrol station owner i know couldnt understand or explain why they banned it then and still cant.
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"98% of us will die at some point in our lives" - Will Ferrell - Talladega Nights

[boots]

Why did the oil companies and government decide to do a backflip on AVGAS around 2000 when everybody had been making money for years??

What changed?? Was it something in the fuel??

Does this coincide with the apparent apperance of Chemtrails here in the late 90's early 2 thousands??

The timing also coincides with the beginnings of the bad so called droughts here in south eastern Australia and the beginnings of all the talk on global warming/carbon emissions/taxes/Al Gore and polar bears.

This one has got me thinking. The petrol station owner i know couldnt understand or explain why they banned it then and still cant.
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Interesting story ownioz, I'd take a guess that they wouldn't want the public to notice that the additive's in AVgas would give off a horrible smell and make peep's extremely sick on a masses scale. People would make a big who ha about it and "they" would be under the spot light. Not what they would want, the secretive bastards.

You remeber all the talk about EL Nino and how it was causing the drought's :rolleyes: and how it would come in 7 year cycles? well that's a lot of shit because this drought has been going on for at least 10 years.

It's all a long scale plan and every detail and senerio has been worked out, and it's all going according to plan. The corporations play a big hand in this:mad: They now control the water, crop production and live stock farms. The bankers send the farmers broke and buy them up cheaply.Then HAARP plays it's hand to reinforce the game and the UN takes control of national forest and unihabital areas ( bush fire regions) and pushes people back into cities where there more easily controlled. Vacination's make peoples immune systems weak and with all the vac's coming in...well it's just makes me sick. haha, no pun intented. The fucking chemtrails are full of shit to help along with this agenda.

Remember they want to rid the world of 5.5 billion people and make money while their doing it. Fuck'n hell:rolleyes::mad:.

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[lightgiver]

Interesting story ownioz, I'd take a guess that they wouldn't want the public to notice that the additive's in AVgas would give off a horrible smell and make peep's extremely sick on a masses scale. People would make a big who ha about it and "they" would be under the spot light. Not what they would want, the secretive bastards.

You remeber all the talk about EL Nino and how it was causing the drought's :rolleyes: and how it would come in 7 year cycles? well that's a lot of shit because this drought has been going on for at least 10 years.

It's all a long scale plan and every detail and senerio has been worked out, and it's all going according to plan. The corporations play a big hand in this:mad: They now control the water, crop production and live stock farms. The bankers send the farmers broke and buy them up cheaply.Then HAARP plays it's hand to reinforce the game and the UN takes control of national forest and unihabital areas ( bush fire regions) and pushes people back into cities where there more easily controlled. Vacination's make peoples immune systems weak and with all the vac's coming in...well it's just makes me sick. haha, no pun intented. The fucking chemtrails are full of shit to help along with this agenda.

Remember they want to rid the world of 5.5 billion people and make money while their doing it. Fuck'n hell:rolleyes::mad:.

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Hi boots, owmoiz,

I would advise you to watch damien Omen 2,it may give you a jist of things to come:eek:;)

Obama now wants to get rid of organic farming,he has put the fellow from GM monsanto to become the head of agriculture,they are causing all this weather manipulation with chemtrails and Haarp,its is not looking rosy to put it mildly we have Insane people running the show,which is now plain to see.

We all need to start fighting back covertly and kick these bastards arses.

Yes your post sums it up boots,we are up shit creek,and TPTB do not give a damn about us.

Peace to you all LG :)

Professor Chossoduvsky of the University of Ottawa wrote a report on weather warfare and HAARP, stating "Recent scientific evidence suggests that HAARP is fully operational and has the ability of potentially triggering floods, droughts, hurricanes and earthquakes. From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction. Potentially, it constitutes an instrument of conquest capable of selectively destabilising agricultural and ecological systems of entire regions.

[ownoiz]

Yep i cant see any reason for making the AVGAS illegal other than that the formula was changed/something was added and they dont want it coming out of cars...or the people on the street to have access to it...as some amatuer could even test it, unlike plane trails which we cant get to, and by the time they fall to the ground well they are too diluted of course.

Yes its sad to see their plan coming together, they are just too clever, and they hit us on so many fronts...and the invention of the TV and 6 o'clock news is what will pretty much seal the deal.

Ive read your vaccines posts Boots, good info, i didnt comment as there is nothing more for me to say, its disgusting and i never trusted vaccines, and although it pisses me off...at the same time im not suprised...knowing who we are dealing with...

Yes winters coming so the news is already bombarding us with stories telling us to get vaccinated so we dont catch this or that or the other..while they show us footage of smiling people getting injections.

Cheers for the info Boots and LG...

Oh and Tim Flannery is completely full of shit...all of the time...he plays the good cop bad cop routine to perfection...asshole.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=178&pictureid=1577
"Just smile and do as i say Tim, AND WE'LL FOOL THEM ALL!! MUAHAHAHA HA HA"
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"98% of us will die at some point in our lives" - Will Ferrell - Talladega Nights

[lightgiver]

Yep i cant see any reason for making the AVGAS illegal other than that the formula was changed/something was added and they dont want it coming out of cars...or the people on the street to have access to it...as some amatuer could even test it, unlike plane trails which we cant get to, and by the time they fall to the ground well they are too diluted of course.

Yes its sad to see their plan coming together, they are just too clever, and they hit us on so many fronts...and the invention of the TV and 6 o'clock news is what will pretty much seal the deal.

Ive read your vaccines posts Boots, good info, i didnt comment as there is nothing more for me to say, its disgusting and i never trusted vaccines, and although it pisses me off...at the same time im not suprised...knowing who we are dealing with...

Yes winters coming so the news is already bombarding us with stories telling us to get vaccinated so we dont catch this or that or the other..while they show us footage of smiling people getting injections.

Cheers for the info Boots and LG...

Oh and Tim Flannery is completely full of shit...all of the time...he plays the good cop bad cop routine to perfection...asshole.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=178&pictureid=1577
"Just smile and do as i say Tim, AND WE'LL FOOL THEM ALL!! MUAHAHAHA HA HA"
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"98% of us will die at some point in our lives" - Will Ferrell - Talladega Nights

Nice one Ownoiz,good info man,

yes they are all puppets,its just a pity the masses just nod their sleepy heads in agreement,must be something in the air;)

[lightgiver]

Yep i cant see any reason for making the AVGAS illegal other than that the formula was changed/something was added and they dont want it coming out of cars...or the people on the street to have access to it...as some amatuer could even test it, unlike plane trails which we cant get to, and by the time they fall to the ground well they are too diluted of course.

Yes its sad to see their plan coming together, they are just too clever, and they hit us on so many fronts...and the invention of the TV and 6 o'clock news is what will pretty much seal the deal.

Ive read your vaccines posts Boots, good info, i didnt comment as there is nothing more for me to say, its disgusting and i never trusted vaccines, and although it pisses me off...at the same time im not suprised...knowing who we are dealing with...

Yes winters coming so the news is already bombarding us with stories telling us to get vaccinated so we dont catch this or that or the other..while they show us footage of smiling people getting injections.

Cheers for the info Boots and LG...

Oh and Tim Flannery is completely full of shit...all of the time...he plays the good cop bad cop routine to perfection...asshole.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=178&pictureid=1577
"Just smile and do as i say Tim, AND WE'LL FOOL THEM ALL!! MUAHAHAHA HA HA"
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"98% of us will die at some point in our lives" - Will Ferrell - Talladega Nights

Nice one Ownoiz,good info man,

yes they are all puppets,its just a pity the masses just nod their sleepy heads in agreement,must be something in the air;)

yes we will all be gone "98% of us will die at some point in our lives" one day, sooner than we would like though:eek:;)

TPTB give me the creeps these days when i set my eyes upon them,because i see their dark agendas.

[banjoreality]

I live in spain .... it's like babylon grand chemtrail central here, been taking lots of pics.... anyone have any constructive ideas, aren't we all getting fed up enough to try and organize something?
take care all (little smiley with gas.mask)

[motleyhoo]

Obama now wants to get rid of organic farming,he has put the fellow from GM monsanto to become the head of agriculture,..

<sigh> This is the shit that really chaps my ass. LOL! The long term plan I started putting together over a year ago to disconnect myself as far as possible from the nightmare we all now find ourselves in was to give up my IT career and my McMansion to start a small-scale organic farming business out in the sticks. Since hearing about HR 875 yesterday, I am still nauseous about it. If I typed out what I'd really like to do about this problem I'd likely find myself with jackboots knocking down my front door. So much for living in a free country. Free? LOL!!!!

And if you really notice how ambiguous HR 875 has been written, you will see that their "rules" can even apply to someone growing a couple tomatoes in their backyard. They will be able to tell you what you can and cannot grow, where you must get the seeds, and what pesticides and fertilizers you MUST use, or else you'll face fines or worse. It also states that the govt can walk onto your property at anytime without notice in order to inspect your garden. Seriously, I am not making this up. It's all in the bill, and it is truly insane.

[boots]

I live in spain .... it's like babylon grand chemtrail central here, been taking lots of pics.... anyone have any constructive ideas, aren't we all getting fed up enough to try and organize something?
take care all (little smiley with gas.mask)


You can make a chembuster with a Orgone Generator. All materials can be obtained from the hardware store. Haven't looked into the info for awhile but here's the link.

http://educate-yourself.org/ct/goodbyects10jan02.shtml


http://educate-yourself.org/ct/image015.jpg

Happy searching :)

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[lightgiver]

<sigh> This is the shit that really chaps my ass. LOL! The long term plan I started putting together over a year ago to disconnect myself as far as possible from the nightmare we all now find ourselves in was to give up my IT career and my McMansion to start a small-scale organic farming business out in the sticks. Since hearing about HR 875 yesterday, I am still nauseous about it. If I typed out what I'd really like to do about this problem I'd likely find myself with jackboots knocking down my front door. So much for living in a free country. Free? LOL!!!!

And if you really notice how ambiguous HR 875 has been written, you will see that their "rules" can even apply to someone growing a couple tomatoes in their backyard. They will be able to tell you what you can and cannot grow, where you must get the seeds, and what pesticides and fertilizers you MUST use, or else you'll face fines or worse. It also states that the govt can walk onto your property at anytime without notice in order to inspect your garden. Seriously, I am not making this up. It's all in the bill, and it is truly insane.

It is insane

and no one seems to give a shit,i tell people and they go OH is it,

and then you hear them papping on about celebs and the rest of the shit,the floride and chemtrails appear to be working,

i am afraid rolling over and taking it is not working,we are up shit creek and i feel its gonna be everyone man woman and child for themselves,unless some catastrophe happens and these evil elite bastards get zapped off the face of the earth,but what will replace them more evil bastards.:eek:

and this is why its called the Samsaric hell hole of Satan,you don't have to wait for hell its here,

i would advise to attain enlightenment and get the hell out of here.;)

the world as gone mad and bad,create your own heaven.:)IMHO

The kingdom of heaven is within.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEaVNzpn4eE

check this vid out,very good,it may give some answers.Thank god i do not live in America,Babylon the great.

I would love to say yeah its fine everything is going to be alright,i have not seen the sun for a week,its like a blanket of dull white cloud cover,chemtrails for sure.

[anthony65]

I live in spain .... it's like babylon grand chemtrail central here, been taking lots of pics.... anyone have any constructive ideas, aren't we all getting fed up enough to try and organize something?
take care all (little smiley with gas.mask)

You live in Spain? :D

Then there is nothing more constructive you could do than check out the following...

http://chemtrails.foroactivo.com/

Wonderful Spaniards who are working to ensure that the rain in Spain falls also on the plain!

And there have been helpers from outside of Spain, mainly some wonderful Germans!

http://www.orgonised-germany.de/expeditionen.html

Read, enjoy and celebrate the generosity of these wonderful people!

** One of the Germans who helped to gift in Spain and Italy cashed in his own life insurance to provide funds... :)

[lightgiver]

still no sun over a week now.

surprise surprise chemtrail covered sky's.

[steevo]

still no sun over a week now.

surprise surprise chemtrail covered sky's.

It's bloody blatant where I live. The chemtrails are always on the route that the sun takes.

[lightgiver]

It's bloody blatant where I live. The chemtrails are always on the route that the sun takes.

Absolutely steevo,they are well manipulating the weather its like clouds of pea soup,

all part of the climate change agenda,

and then blame us lot,they are creating climate change,with haarp chemtrails and the rest of it,and when the Artic is melted they will exploit it for its resources and blame us in the process, the reality TPTB have created in the 1st place with their false economy greed.

They are indeed one bunch of twisted mothers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpUsyHV__jg

I notice charley boy as been haarping on about it today.

[lightgiver]

For the chemtrail deniers,who constantly live in denial land or is it they are counter intel pro agents,I would go with the latter,especially the ones who claim they are in the military but spend their time constantly on here disrupting threads.

its not exactly as though the chemtrails are hidden,like the elite who do everything behind closed doors.

and do not try the height of aeroplanes is the cause one.

[flyermay]

Did you ever saw the inside of a chemtrail plane?

Look at this, and notice the huge tanks on each side:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3424

It is authentic, extracted from an Italian documentary about the CIA-NSA chemtrailling projects.

You can watch the ducumentary here (obviosly, in Italian):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghoaomHQB2g&feature=related

[lightgiver]

Did you ever saw the inside of a chemtrail plane?

Look at this, and notice the huge tanks on each side:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=3424

It is authentic, extracted from an Italian documentary about the CIA-NSA chemtrailling projects.

You can watch the ducumentary here (obviosly, in Italian):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghoaomHQB2g&feature=related

Yes flyermay;)

You would not believe or maybe you would the discussions or rants we have had with that one(picture) with the chemtrail deniers;)

1 thing about chemtrails you cant exactly miss them:eek:

[banjoreality]

hi lightgiver, have you tried orgonite? I used to think it was BS before I tried.....fuckin' hell, that stuff really works!!!!!!!!!!
FIGHT THE AGENDA WITH COPPER COINS AND QUARTZ!!!!
Give it a go;)

[lightgiver]

hi lightgiver, have you tried orgonite? I used to think it was BS before I tried.....fuckin' hell, that stuff really works!!!!!!!!!!
FIGHT THE AGENDA WITH COPPER COINS AND QUARTZ!!!!
Give it a go;)

http://www.orgonite.info/what-is-orgonite.html :eek::D

Give us some more info man ;)

See ya soon.off to bed now.

[montag]

<sigh> This is the shit that really chaps my ass. LOL! The long term plan I started putting together over a year ago to disconnect myself as far as possible from the nightmare we all now find ourselves in was to give up my IT career and my McMansion to start a small-scale organic farming business out in the sticks.
Propaganda in the MSM to dissuade you from doing just that..

http://www.theage.com.au/national/when-the-treechange-dream-turns-to-dust-20090418-aaun.html

[ownoiz]

Propaganda in the MSM to dissuade you from doing just that..

http://www.theage.com.au/national/when-the-treechange-dream-turns-to-dust-20090418-aaun.html

Yep i caught that article a couple of days ago, it is one of many similar being churned out last 2-3 years, along with the doom and gloom water inflows and rainfall forecasts for South Eastern Australia...

i know what they are attempting to do, and its total control of food and water, as well as cramming us all into easier to control high density housing...ie control the water we drink (medicated) and food and chemtrails/pollution.

I am East of Adelaide in the Murraylands today, there is finally rain forecast for Thursday...and the chemtrails are going nuts out here today...i dont know what they are doing up there...but it has blanketed the (previously clear) sky today as the trails merge as commercial jet after commercial jet flys overhead...out here the amount it rains...is often less than the expected forecasts of late.

I never see chemtrails like this in or around the city of adelaide, and it always rains more, wasnt always the case, not to the extent of discrepancy it is now anyway.

It hardly ever rains where the irrigated food crops are, which happens to be where the chemtrails are.
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"Mall people they come and go, small people they just dont know" - Anna Faris

[banjoreality]

Yep i caught that article a couple of days ago, it is one of many similar being churned out last 2-3 years, along with the doom and gloom water inflows and rainfall forecasts for South Eastern Australia...

i know what they are attempting to do, and its total control of food and water, as well as cramming us all into easier to control high density housing...ie control the water we drink (medicated) and food and chemtrails/pollution.

I am East of Adelaide in the Murraylands today, there is finally rain forecast for Thursday...and the chemtrails are going nuts out here today...i dont know what they are doing up there...but it has blanketed the (previously clear) sky today as the trails merge as commercial jet after commercial jet flys overhead...out here the amount it rains...is often less than the expected forecasts of late.

I never see chemtrails like this in or around the city of adelaide, and it always rains more, wasnt always the case, not to the extent of discrepancy it is now anyway.

It hardly ever rains where the irrigated food crops are, which happens to be where the chemtrails are.
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"Mall people they come and go, small people they just dont know" - Anna Faris

ever heard of Wilhelm reich's cloud buster? it's no joke my friend.

[jconnar]

Hey boots, your comment just made me think about something i havent thought about in a long time...hmmm

In the 1990's , AVGAS was beginning to become available across Adelaide at the service station pump, the demand was coming from people with older cars, sports cars, muscle cars/hotted up street/strip cars and the like...high compression engines...even though unleaded had been out since 1986 there was still many cars running on leaded fuel...and ran sweet on AVGAS.

Quite a few petrol stations began to provide at least one AVGAS pump, even one large chain BP franchise had it on a few sites, the biggest in the State IIRC (owned by perecorp)

This went on for a few years until the late 90's, no one seemed to care there were no problems...demand kept going up and up despite the price...so everyone was making money including the oil companies...and i knew a guy that owned a petrol station with an AVGAS pump...i knew him quite well...the fuel was definately the exact same fuel as what went into jets, shipped by the same wholesalers from the same place as where it went to Adelaide airport in the same trucks...


AVGAS is just 100 Octane Leaded fuel. Jet Turbines run on Jet A1 or Kerosene. It is full of lead. Apparently there is only one lead mine left in the world that makes the lead that goes into AVGAS. It is becoming rarer and rarer in General Aviation and the price is very high. The majority of aircraft engines are very old designs that are ultra reliable but must be run on fuel with lead in it. There is a push in the industry for new engines to be run on standard unleaded or diesal however.

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AVGAS is just 100 Octane Leaded fuel. Jet Turbines run on Jet A1 or Kerosene. It is full of lead. Apparently there is only one lead mine left in the world that makes the lead that goes into AVGAS. It is becoming rarer and rarer in General Aviation and the price is very high. The majority of aircraft engines are very old designs that are ultra reliable but must be run on fuel with lead in it. There is a push in the industry for new engines to be run on standard unleaded or diesal however.


yes, i am aware that avgas is higher octane leaded fuel. :)

but at the time back then, they werent banning other leaded fuels outright yet, (for older pre-catalytic cars), just Avgas that was the same source as the planes.

Sure im not pro-led poisoning, but some say that the whole unleaded / catalytic converter thing in cars is a scam, cats dont last long in their effectiveness to reduce harmful emissions, and any modern vehicle tuner will know how rich these crooks make new cars run, just to suit the catalytic converters.

It is quite insane that the average backyard tuner can get their hands on some software and greatly increase the mileage of most new gasoline powered cars...they run rich...apparently to protect the catalytic converters and make them more effective, but i say its to sell more fuel and clog the exhaust system with a honeycomb heavy metal brick that is only effective for a couple of years.

If the corps and gvernments really cared, they would ensure more cars ran on propane/butane, not to mention the supression of electric cars.


I kinda have reached the same conclusions, on my own, as this poster on ATS, about the whole catalytic converter thing...

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread572015/pg1

If you drive an American automobile of a later year than 1975, which should be about everyone in America, it has a catalytic converter. Unless it's older than 1984 in which case you can cut the sucker off, and pitch it. The catalytic converter or "cat" for short was first thought of in the early 1950s by a french engineer living in L.A. named Eugene Houdry. He was tired of all the smog, and worked in catalytic oil refining. The first production cats weren't introduced until 1973 when lead was taken out of gasoline as an anti-knock agent, and some other guys fussed around with the design, and improved it. Lead gunked up the converter. By 1975 all vehicles had to have a cat from the factory, and by 1985 it was a crime to take it off your vehicle if it was built in that year, or later.

The idea behind the cat is to burn unburned hydrocarbons(fuel molecules) left over from the combustion cycle. It wasn't really too bad of an idea for the time because cars were carbureted then, and the fuel mix ratio was just set to the best compromise for most conditions. If it got cold, or you had a big drop in altitude it would be a little lean, if it got hot, or you went up into the mountains it would be a little rich. Most of them were set on the rich side because a spark ignition engine runs better a little rich than it does too lean. So this meant unburned fuel coming out the tail pipe. The cat was supposed to burn this extra gas and clean up the emissions. Good idea right?

Maybe sort of at first. The biggest problem with early converters is that they took a long time to get hot, and they had a problem staying hot enough to burn the fuel all the time because the carburetor wasn't always that far off, and sometimes was too lean to keep the cat hot, but rich enough to still waste some gas. Enter the smog pump. It blew air into the cat like a blast on a furnace to keep it hot, and the carburetors were intentionally set even richer to make sure they wasted enough fuel to keep the cat hot. Plus the smog pump pulled about 5 horsepower. So now we are wasting fuel to support a device to catch wasted fuel, brilliant. Now I'm sure all the oil companies were just heart broken that every single car on the road was going to have to consume about 30% more fuel to catch any incidental unburned fuel that might escape due to the carburetion system.

Then in the mid 80s we started getting good at fuel injection, and now we can control how much fuel the engine gets at any time. Coincidentally about the same time the feds mandate the catalytic converter to be on all engines about 25HP all the time, for all time, and with no exceptions, EVER. A little convenient? Seeing as there should be very little waste fuel now that we can accurately meter the fuel to the engine's needs. Your modern vehicle's computer is now so sophisticated that it can vary the pulse of every injector by 1/100th of a gram every single rotation of the engine. There is absolutely NO reason whatsoever for a modern vehicle to have a catalytic converter. Accept that it takes about 15%-20% more of your fuel(read money) to keep it hot, and running. Better than the 30% or more from days of yore, but still very wasteful. Not to mention the less than beneficial side effects produced by the cat. Like acid rain from hydrogen sulfide.

Anyone with a moderate understanding of combustion theory, and an understanding of engine control systems knows that a properly electronically tuned engine burns many times cleaner than the federally mandated system.

At our current level of technology it is abundantly apparent that it has nothing to do with clean air, and everything to do with $$$.

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