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sophia_h
05-03-2009, 05:08 PM
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Ancient Nuclear War?




Posted: 4/23/2002

Ancient Nuclear War?
by Manuel Sancho

Ancient Nuclear War? There is evidence that the Rama empire (now India) was devastated by nuclear war. The Indus valley is now the Thar desert, and the site of the radioactive ash found west of Jodhpur is around there. Consider these verses from the ancient (6500 BC at the latest) Mahabharata: ...a single projectile Charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame As bright as the thousand suns Rose in all its splendour... a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke clouds... ...the cloud of smoke rising after its first explosion formed into expanding round circles like the opening of giant parasols... ..it was an unknown weapon, An iron thunderbolt, A gigantic messenger of death, Which reduced to ashes The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas. ...The corpses were so burned As to be unrecognisable. The hair and nails fell out; Pottery broke without apparent cause, And the birds turned white. After a few hours All foodstuffs were infected... ...to escape from this fire The soldiers threw themselves in streams To wash themselves and their equipment. Until the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, modern mankind could not imagine any weapon as horrible and devastating as those described in the ancient Indian texts. Yet they very accurately described the effects of an atomic explosion. Radioactive poisoning will make hair and nails fall out. Immersing oneself in water gives some respite, though it is not a cure. When excavations of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro reached the street level, they discovered skeletons scattered about the cities, many holding hands and sprawling in the streets as if some instant, horrible doom had taken place. People were just lying, unburied, in the streets of the city. And these skeletons are thousands of years old, even by traditional archaeological standards. These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on par with those at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. At one site, Soviet scholars found a skeleton which had a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India that show indications of explosions of great magnitude. One such city, found between the Ganges and the mountains of Rajmahal, seems to have been subjected to intense heat. Huge masses of walls and foundations of the ancient city are fused together, literally vitrified! And since there is no indication of a volcanic eruption at Mohenjo-Daro or at the other cities, the intense heat to melt clay vessels can only be explained by an atomic blast or some other unknown weapon. The cities were wiped out entirely. While the skeletons have been carbon-dated to 2500 BC, we must keep in mind that carbon-dating involves measuring the amount of radiation left. When atomic explosions are involved, that makes then seem much younger. Manhattan Project chief scientist Dr J. Robert Oppenheimer was known to be familiar with ancient Sanskrit literature. In an interview conducted after he watched the first atomic test, he quoted from the Bhagavad Gita: "'Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds.' I suppose we all felt that way." When asked in an interview at Rochester University seven years after the Alamogordo nuclear test whether that was the first atomic bomb ever to be detonated, his reply was, "Well, yes, in modern history." Ancient cities whose brick and stonewalls have literally been vitrified, that is, fused together, can be found in India, Ireland, Scotland, France, Turkey and other places. There is no logical explanation for the vitrification of stone forts and cities, except from an atomic blast. Another curious sign of an ancient nuclear war in India is a giant crater near Bombay. The nearly circular 2,154-metre-diameter Lonar crater, located 400 kilometres northeast of Bombay and aged at less than 50,000 years old, could be related to nuclear warfare of antiquity. No trace of any meteoric material, etc., has been found at the site or in the vicinity, and this is the world's only known "impact" crater in basalt. Indications of great shock (from a pressure exceeding 600,000 atmospheres) and intense, abrupt heat (indicated by basalt glass spherules) can be ascertained from the site. The destruction of the Biblical cities Sodom and Gomorrah (a dense column of smoke rose rapidly, a cloud rained burning sulfur, the surrounding soil was turned into sulfur and salt so that not even a blade of grass could grow there, and anyone in the vicinity turned to salt) sounds like a nuclear blast. If the pillars of salt at the end of the Dead Sea (which are still there today) were ordinary salt, they would have disappeared with the periodic rains. Instead, these pillars are of a special, harder salt, only created in a nuclear reaction such as an atomic explosion. Let's also look at Deuteronomy 32:32-33: "Their vine grows from the vine of Sodom, from the vineyards of Gomorrah. Their grapes are poison, and their clusters are bitter. Their wine is the venom of snakes, the deadly poison of vipers." Radioactive plants are known to be dangerous to eat. Other cities have been similarly destroyed: Admah and Zeboiim (Deuteronomy 29:23), Edom and Teman (Jeremiah:49:7-22), and Moab and Amman (Zephanian 2:9). (Why are these cities always destroyed in pairs?) In each account, there are references to Sodom and Gomorrah. We now know what happened to Babylon: "Babylon, the most glorious of kingdoms, the flower of Chaldean culture, will be devastated like Sodom and Gomorrah when God destroyed them. Babylon will never rise again. Generation after generation will come and go, but the land will never again be lived in. Nomads will refuse to camp there, and shepherds will not allow their sheep to stay overnight." --Isaiah, 13:19-20. The flood was the ending of the Ice Age, which meant the end of Atlantis. But there is a direct correlation between areas 4,920 feet or higher above sea level and centers of agriculture. Apparently the tsunamis didn't get any higher than that. Since there are very high mountains in the Rama Empire, it lasted until it was destroyed in nuclear war a thousand years after the "sinking" of Atlantis, so that would be 8600 BC. Since Babylon was destroyed in nuclear war, it must be a lot older than we think. The skeletons must appear younger to archaeologists, just like those in Mohenjo-Daro.


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chattanova
05-03-2009, 09:31 PM
Hey :-p here is a thread were nearly all info on the web has been collected
Ancient Atomic Warfare 10,000 BC http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10928

sophia_h
05-03-2009, 10:14 PM
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THANKS!

will copy & file as I get time

the one I posted has been around a long time
but I thought to stir some knowledges

this is a bonanza.

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synergy777
06-03-2009, 08:12 PM
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ancientatomicwar/esp_ancient_atomic_12.htm

A Nuclear Catastrophe in Paleoindian Times?

by Richard B.Firestone and William Topping

Terrestrial Evidence of a Nuclear Catastrophe in Paleoindian Times
The Mammoth Trumpet, 16:9, March 2001. Cr. C. Davant III.

This off-mainstream journal is published by the Center for the Study of the First Americans, 355 Weniger Hall, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR 97331-6510.


Introduction

We introduce here a remarkable theory of terrestrial catastrophism that seems to be supported by evidence that is equally remarkable. One of the authors of this theory (RBF) is identified as a nuclear scientist at the Lawrence Berkeley Nuclear Laboratory.

The second author (WT) is a consultant. The authors' credentials seem so good that we must take a close look at their extraordinary claims concerning a natural phenomenon that they believe reset radiocarbon clocks in north-central North America and - potentially - elsewhere on the planet.

The claims

In the authors' words: Our research indicates that the entire Great Lakes region (and beyond) was subjected to particle bombardment and a catastrophic nuclear irradiation that produced secondary thermal neutrons from cosmic ray interactions. The neutrons produced unusually large quantities of ^239 Pu and substantially altered the natural uranium abundances (^235 U/^238 U) in artifacts and in other exposed materials including cherts, sediments, and the entire landscape.

These neutrons necessarily transmuted residual nitrogen (^ N) in the dated charcoals to radiocarbon, thus explaining anomalous dates. Some North American dates may in consequence be as much as 10,000 years too young. So, we are not dealing with a trivial phenomenon!

Supporting evidence
Four main categories of supporting evidence are claimed and presented in varying degrees of detail.

Anomalously young radiocarbon dates in north-central North America. Example: the Gainey site in Michigan. [Other map sites include Thedford & Zander, Ont.; Potts, NY; Shoop, Penn.; Alton, Ind.; Taylor, Il.; Butler & Leavitt, Mich.; and far to the north Grant Lake, Nunavut; and in the far southwest Baker, N.M. - TWC]

Physical evidence of particle bombardment. Example: chert artifacts with high densities of particle-entrance wounds

Anomalous uranium and plutonium abundance ratios in the affected area

Tree-ring and marine sediment data

The authors claim that the burst of radiation from a nearby supernova, circa 12,500 years ago, not only reset radiocarbon clocks but also heated the planet's atmosphere, melted ice sheets, and led to biological extinctions. If verified, the claimed phenomenon would also "reset" archeological models of the settlement of North and South America. To illustrate, we may have to add as many as 10,000 years to site dates in much of North America!



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Rajasthan: Evidence of Ancient Atomic Explosion


Radiation still so intense, the area is highly dangerous. A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur. Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built. For some time it has been established that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on investigators' gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the region.

Scientists have unearthed an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most of the buildings and probably a half-million people. One researcher estimates that the nuclear bomb used was about the size of the ones dropped on Japan in 1945.

A Historian Comments
Historian Kisari Mohan Ganguli says that "Indian sacred writings" are full of such descriptions, which sound like an atomic blast as experienced in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He says references mention fighting sky chariots and final weapons.

An ancient battle is described in the Drona Parva, a section of the Mahabharata.

"The passage tells of combat where explosions of final weapons decimate entire armies, causing crowds of warriors with steeds and elephants and weapons to be carried away as if they were dry leaves of trees," says Ganguli.

"Instead of mushroom clouds, the writer describes a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke clouds as consecutive openings of giant parasols. There are comments about the contamination of food and people's hair falling out."

Archeological Investigation provides information
Archeologist Francis Taylor says that etchings in some nearby temples he has managed to translate suggest that they prayed to be spared from the great light that was coming to lay ruin to the city.

"It's so mid-boggling to imagine that some civilization had nuclear technology before we did. The radioactive ash adds credibility to the ancient Indian records that describe atomic warfare."

Construction has halted while the five member team conducts the investigation. The foreman of the project is Lee Hundley, who pioneered the investigation after the high level of radiation was discovered.

oiram
06-03-2009, 08:18 PM
Yes this would explain a lot & why they are covering up the real past from us!
http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/5/12/23/f_ancientcitym_4bef1ea.jpg (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10928)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10928

Ancient Atomic Warfare 10,000 BC
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10928

A Pre-Historic Nuclear War? Reflections on Worlds Before Our Own
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=221306&postcount=26

Pre-Historic Nuclear War Evidence Mounts
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230112&postcount=28

Vitrified Ruins in California's Death Valley: Evidence of Atomic War?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=144504&postcount=2

Evidence of Ancient Atomic Explosion
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36385

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr40/413200/11/hoax.jpg
This is not only a interesting Thread this could answer many questions we all have!
So the Key would be to remove all the weapons which could destroy Humanity again!
Should this was the reality before & it worked for them before then I am sure they will use it & do it again!
Yes this would not surprise me if Satan's "Elite" got his way ones before!
This could also be in connection with all the technology which we have now!
Maybe people found things which they handed down over generations! Or the logic part is that the ones which organized this Holocaust on earth had to live underground for a long time then always made sure to transfer there knowledge and Technology through there Bloodlines right till now?
Also people like Einstein maybe are just puppets of the system to present innovations to mislead the people to not understand that our civilization long before was already in the situation we are right now again! Still my personal theory also could stand that we did not originated on this planet and we have been dropped here or had an emergency landing! But then again why would they blow all to kingdom cam!
Who knows maybe the exact process is in the making right now & only some will survive like they did before & the entire process starts from about zero again!
Guess who will be the survivors if they succeed & we don't stop them?

If this is the reality of our History thousands of mystery's would be solved over days if this could be confirmed.

So the reptilians in reality are only part of our past elite which blown Earth to kingdom cam to preserver there elite status!

So will we be able to disarm them this time or should we get ready for the big barbecue ones again!

Now just let me add something stupid "logical" to this; lets just say this was our history in reality could deformities over time with a low radiation course something like this if people would live long enough in a radiated area???

Also this could be a reason for them to make up the alien story to miss lead us again to not find the real truth knowing that this records are around & more could be found & people will ask to many questions??

Just imagine by mistake someone would find a 10000 year old TV what would they tell us that Aliens left them here?
Why are they promoting the Alien & UFO story on MSM now! Just a diversion or a good logical reason?
How come that the Technology & Human Civilization advanced this extremely only over the last 200 years?
But it never happened before in history?
Is it because they hidden & blocked all the technology we had long time ago also domesticating us to stay stupid & knowing that there Elite position could be taken from them remembering there previous Historical experience?
Talking about Alien apparency!
http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/skull_cone2.jpg (http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/absolute_proof_aliens_exist.html)
http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/absolute_proof_aliens_exist.html
Could I have a point Here?

Any Radiation records around Egypt?

Interviews on Chernobyl from Chernobyl.info
“Chernobyl Journey”—For the 20th anniversary of the Chernobyl disaster, Belarusian journalist Vasily Semashko travels through the Chernobyl region and reports on his impressions about everyday life of the people living in the contaminated area
NPR: ‘Voices of Chernobyl’: Survivors’ Stories
http://bp3.blogger.com/_eJ5l4VAZnNw/Rv7oFv8tOlI/AAAAAAAAAck/QVLI7kXp8wI/s320/80.jpg
http://ladybroadoak.blogspot.com/2007/09/please-forward-as-far-as-possible.html
Now tell me what is this look at the head mutation!


Test victim: an abandoned baby in Semipalatansk, Russia’s nuclear test site.
Over a million people in the region have been contaminated with radiation from over 500 bomb explosions.
http://www.newint.org/features/2008/06/01/412-17-nuclear-test-victim.jpg (http://www.newint.org/features/2008/06/01/nuclear-weapons-history/)
http://www.newint.org/features/2008/06/01/nuclear-weapons-history/


http://www.thewe.cc/thewei/&_/_/p2/depleted_uranium_baby.jpe (http://www.thewe.cc/weplanet/news/depleted_uranium_iraq_afghanistan_balkans.html)
Depleted Uranium Weapons — an investigation
http://www.thewe.cc/weplanet/news/depleted_uranium_iraq_afghanistan_balkans.html

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=847344

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_PfhV_Hns4Thanks for posting:) Here is more on the subject

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4955&highlight=skull

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17185&highlight=crazy

http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/3/2/28/kennet/f_fcraneoscrim_aa8d983.jpg

http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/2/28/kennet/f_fcraneoscrim_52c1ed0.jpg

http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/3/2/28/kennet/f_fbnnnmece87m_f9fd2b2.jpg
Here is an interesting storys I came across
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=833793
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=590937&postcount=106

North America is about 35000 BCE
Typical is the case of George Carter who claimed to have found, at an excavation in San Diego, hearths and crude stone tools at levels corresponding to the last interglacial period, some 80,000-90,000 years ago.
Russian scientists however claim that a single footprint is not enough to force rethinking of existing theories of human existence and to come up with something radically novel. But what about an entire chain of footprints found near Carson, Nevada? Those are incredibly precise and clear prints doubtlessly left by a human. Their size is gigantic. Their age is 213-248 million years.
http://s8int.com/giants4.html

http://s8int.com/giants1.html
A scientist has calculated that there is a 67% chance that God exists.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2004/mar/08/highereducation.uk1

Massive Fossil "Boneyards" All Over the World
http://s8int.com/boneyard1.html

Flood of Noah Confirmed?
http://s8int.com/noahsark1.html

Evidence of Ancient Atomic Knowledge?
http://s8int.com/atomic2.html

DNA, The Ultimate Oopart!
http://s8int.com/dna1.html

Articles and Links--
http://s8int.com/links.html

cpfc12
02-12-2009, 08:27 PM
bump

ekim
02-12-2009, 10:05 PM
From what I read, it was fragments of a supernova that caused the catastrophy 11,500 years ago. This is the reason for the vast underground villages as the astronomers of the time would have seen this coming and prepared for it.

A book I have yet to find, "Cataclysm! Compelling Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophy in 9500 B.C."

A book I do own that goes into this, "Catastrophobia, The Truth Behind Earth Changes"

An intersesting theory that makes more sense than any I have yet to come across.
read a little here: http://www.knowledge.co.uk/xxx/cat/earth/

sofa king
02-12-2009, 10:37 PM
there is a theory proposed in the book "Uriel's Machine" that a series of comet strikes at about thios time (6500BC) is what wiped out the world.

So... it is possible that the calamity description could very well be said comets if they were aflame on entry and contained radioactive rock.

Nuclear weapons in 6500bc would indicate an extremely advanced race that would have more evidence left behind than just pottery.

jakemaverick
03-12-2009, 12:22 AM
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Nuclear weapons in 6500bc would indicate an extremely advanced race that would have more evidence left behind than just pottery.[/QUOTE]

not unless it was all nuked......:)

h2pogo
03-12-2009, 12:30 AM
Phil schnider in this clip produces physical evidence to support the claim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9bhrizIzeM