Police representing the Government!

[the worm that turned]

Just watched the BBC morning news (as I like to keep up with the propaganda) and they did a report on the 25 year anniversary of the miner's strike. It is also on the website with a lovely picture on the homepage of two POLICE MEN holding a protestor around the neck and arm, with another hundred or so POLICE MEN in the background. Nice image!!

First Point - I personally believe this is a blatant attempt to reinforce the THEM and US mentality. It is also, I believe, part of the effort to maintain tension in a build up to the summer of protests that the media is propagating. DON'T RISE TO IT PEOPLE PLEASE

Second Point - The numpty (my definition not necessarily official ;)) that was carrying out the report mentioned that "...the police were there representing the Government." Now I was always (perhaps foolishly) under the impression that the Government were their representing the people and the police were employed to serve and protect the people. Obviously I understand that if a protestor has punched a Policeman in the face through no provocation then he needs to be restrained and read his rights. But when I see a bunch of black uniformed men running at a group of people who are trying to save their jobs and protect their livelihood and families, then I start to lose faith in a democratic, free society that we supposedly live in.

I URGE ALL USERS OF THE DAVID ICKE WEBSITE TO FOCUS ON THE SECTION CALLED FREEMAN-ON-THE-LAND. Even if you do not believe entirely in this there is a LOT of useful information there that will help you out in a lot of areas of your life.

Commenting on Aliens, Reptiles, End of the World scenarios is ALL a distraction (even if it be true) and while we are divided our FREEDOMS are being stripped away from us. Have you noticed that you are NEVER taught law in "compulsory" school age (5-16).

The Holy Grail that we are all searching, the biggest secret, call it what you will is that we have been hoodwinked into bondage and slavery. Forget things that you can't control, take back what you can control, yourself.

LECTURE OVER!

[fekdemasons]

Just watched the BBC morning news (as I like to keep up with the propaganda) and they did a report on the 25 year anniversary of the miner's strike. It is also on the website with a lovely picture on the homepage of two POLICE MEN holding a protestor around the neck and arm, with another hundred or so POLICE MEN in the background. Nice image!!

First Point - I personally believe this is a blatant attempt to reinforce the THEM and US mentality. It is also, I believe, part of the effort to maintain tension in a build up to the summer of protests that the media is propagating. DON'T RISE TO IT PEOPLE PLEASE

Second Point - The numpty (my definition not necessarily official ;)) that was carrying out the report mentioned that "...the police were there representing the Government." Now I was always (perhaps foolishly) under the impression that the Government were their representing the people and the police were employed to serve and protect the people. Obviously I understand that if a protestor has punched a Policeman in the face through no provocation then he needs to be restrained and read his rights. But when I see a bunch of black uniformed men running at a group of people who are trying to save their jobs and protect their livelihood and families, then I start to lose faith in a democratic, free society that we supposedly live in.

I URGE ALL USERS OF THE DAVID ICKE WEBSITE TO FOCUS ON THE SECTION CALLED FREEMAN-ON-THE-LAND. Even if you do not believe entirely in this there is a LOT of useful information there that will help you out in a lot of areas of your life.

Commenting on Aliens, Reptiles, End of the World scenarios is ALL a distraction (even if it be true) and while we are divided our FREEDOMS are being stripped away from us. Have you noticed that you are NEVER taught law in "compulsory" school age (5-16).

The Holy Grail that we are all searching, the biggest secret, call it what you will is that we have been hoodwinked into bondage and slavery. Forget things that you can't control, take back what you can control, yourself.

LECTURE OVER!

Here Here !

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Just watched the BBC morning news (as I like to keep up with the propaganda) and they did a report on the 25 year anniversary of the miner's strike. It is also on the website with a lovely picture on the homepage of two POLICE MEN holding a protestor around the neck and arm, with another hundred or so POLICE MEN in the background. Nice image!!

First Point - I personally believe this is a blatant attempt to reinforce the THEM and US mentality. It is also, I believe, part of the effort to maintain tension in a build up to the summer of protests that the media is propagating. DON'T RISE TO IT PEOPLE PLEASE

Second Point - The numpty (my definition not necessarily official ;)) that was carrying out the report mentioned that "...the police were there representing the Government." Now I was always (perhaps foolishly) under the impression that the Government were their representing the people and the police were employed to serve and protect the people. Obviously I understand that if a protestor has punched a Policeman in the face through no provocation then he needs to be restrained and read his rights. But when I see a bunch of black uniformed men running at a group of people who are trying to save their jobs and protect their livelihood and families, then I start to lose faith in a democratic, free society that we supposedly live in.

I URGE ALL USERS OF THE DAVID ICKE WEBSITE TO FOCUS ON THE SECTION CALLED FREEMAN-ON-THE-LAND. Even if you do not believe entirely in this there is a LOT of useful information there that will help you out in a lot of areas of your life.

Commenting on Aliens, Reptiles, End of the World scenarios is ALL a distraction (even if it be true) and while we are divided our FREEDOMS are being stripped away from us. Have you noticed that you are NEVER taught law in "compulsory" school age (5-16).

The Holy Grail that we are all searching, the biggest secret, call it what you will is that we have been hoodwinked into bondage and slavery. Forget things that you can't control, take back what you can control, yourself.

LECTURE OVER!

You guys need to post a 'hook' thread in General that is a 'Freeman for Idiots' guide, with a basic summation of the most elementary Freeman principles, facts and how-to's.

A lot of people feel overwhelmed delving in there. It often feels like you've walked in on a bunch of pissed off attorneys "doin' lunch".

[beldazar]

Yes thanks SOL, I went on there myself to ask questions and was completely overwhelmed and made to feel stupid. :(

[the worm that turned]

Yes thanks SOL, I went on there myself to ask questions and was completely overwhelmed and made to feel stupid. :(

That is terrible that you were made to feel that way. Shame on whoever it was. It has taken me a while to begin to try and understand what it is all about. Try reading these 5 points below which will hopefully clarify things:

1. At birth humans beings (babies) are registered with the United Kingdom (corporation) by their parents (the informants) - this is the choice of the parents, albeit that they are threatened by a fine (now up to £1000) and informed that they will not receive the benefits attributed to others within the state (e.g. state pension, state benefits, school entry, passport)

2. Once the baby is registered, the UK creates a legal fiction, or PERSON e.g. John Doe becomes JOHN DOE or John DOE. This PERSON is inextricably linked to the human being, however unless they claim this PERSON back, it remains the property of the UK

3. The UK can use the legal entity PERSON as a bond, which can then be traded on the stock exchange. In effect, the UK states, "in 2008 we currently have xx million PERSONs with associated bonds, which will earn the corporation xx million pounds in hard labour, therefore please Mr Bank of England, IMF, Federal Reserve, Japan, China, India etc, can we borrow xx billion promissory notes (or can you create xx billion through fractional reserve lending) and their labour is a guarantee that we will pay you back the interest for this year"

4. This system can only be effective if Statutes are passed by governments that help facilitate this process, i.e. a contract of such a nature could only be made using a legal fiction (PERSON) to effectively bond or enslave, otherwise it would indeed be slavery or bondage by a corporation and a human being (punishable I would assume by Common Law to a high degree)

5. Human beings are waking up to this reality in a rather large way and are basically attempting to regain ownership of their PERSON by making a Notice of Intent and Understanding and Claim of Right. This basically outlines in a legally binding fashion that they are not willing to be a part of this system and want out of it.

[rhydra]

MP's, Ministers, the police, the civil service, are all politicised, they all work towards the same common purpose, they all work for Common Purpose. They all share the same responsibility for the war on us, the war on you and the crimes that have been committed.

[the worm that turned]

MP's, Ministers, the police, the civil service, are all politicised, they all work towards the same common purpose, they all work for Common Purpose. They all share the same responsibility for the war on us, the war on you and the crimes that have been committed.

sadly I am beginning to share that belief too :mad:

[beldazar]

That is terrible that you were made to feel that way. Shame on whoever it was. It has taken me a while to begin to try and understand what it is all about. Try reading these 5 points below which will hopefully clarify things:

1. At birth humans beings (babies) are registered with the United Kingdom (corporation) by their parents (the informants) - this is the choice of the parents, albeit that they are threatened by a fine (now up to £1000) and informed that they will not receive the benefits attributed to others within the state (e.g. state pension, state benefits, school entry, passport)

2. Once the baby is registered, the UK creates a legal fiction, or PERSON e.g. John Doe becomes JOHN DOE or John DOE. This PERSON is inextricably linked to the human being, however unless they claim this PERSON back, it remains the property of the UK

3. The UK can use the legal entity PERSON as a bond, which can then be traded on the stock exchange. In effect, the UK states, "in 2008 we currently have xx million PERSONs with associated bonds, which will earn the corporation xx million pounds in hard labour, therefore please Mr Bank of England, IMF, Federal Reserve, Japan, China, India etc, can we borrow xx billion promissory notes (or can you create xx billion through fractional reserve lending) and their labour is a guarantee that we will pay you back the interest for this year"

4. This system can only be effective if Statutes are passed by governments that help facilitate this process, i.e. a contract of such a nature could only be made using a legal fiction (PERSON) to effectively bond or enslave, otherwise it would indeed be slavery or bondage by a corporation and a human being (punishable I would assume by Common Law to a high degree)

5. Human beings are waking up to this reality in a rather large way and are basically attempting to regain ownership of their PERSON by making a Notice of Intent and Understanding and Claim of Right. This basically outlines in a legally binding fashion that they are not willing to be a part of this system and want out of it.

Thankyou The Worm That Turned, this was my original post on the thread...

Ive just ventured onto this thread, thanks to Sukyspook. I havent read all the way through but I find this all way too confusing!

How can I possibly become a freeman of the land when rent has to be paid, Im a single mum on benefits and have the brains of a slug? (no offence to the slugs out there)

Its not very often that I just want to lie down and beg for somebody to come along and rescue me but that is how Im feeling right now
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To be honest, the only solution I can see right now is to pack my bags, boys and a tent and bugger off somewhere but I would have the authorities after me for not putting the children in school. I wouldnt have the facilities like washing machine or iron to keep them in a presentable condition for school or the transport to get them there :(

[the worm that turned]

Thankyou The Worm That Turned, this was my original post on the thread...

Ive just ventured onto this thread, thanks to Sukyspook. I havent read all the way through but I find this all way too confusing!

How can I possibly become a freeman of the land when rent has to be paid, Im a single mum on benefits and have the brains of a slug? (no offence to the slugs out there)

Its not very often that I just want to lie down and beg for somebody to come along and rescue me but that is how Im feeling right now
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To be honest, the only solution I can see right now is to pack my bags, boys and a tent and bugger off somewhere but I would have the authorities after me for not putting the children in school. I wouldnt have the facilities like washing machine or iron to keep them in a presentable condition for school or the transport to get them there :(

Hang on in there! I personally think the system is crumbling for them but the question is, what have they instore for us next :eek:

[jimmi]

Dear Beldazar, I was horrified, mortified,saddened and lots of other negative emotiony type thingys fied when I read your post, I'm adding my shame on them as well. I know that you have to read...How I Clobbered Every Bureaucratic Cash-Confiscatory Agency Known To Man, by Mary Elizabeth: Croft.

The freeman stuff is mountainous when you become aware of it's presence for the first time, be sure that it doesn't take long before you can hold it in the palm of your hand;)


edit. Sorry meant to say that you can download the pdf file freely available online.

can't do links