Hitler and "The Secret Doctrine"

[kasalt]

I recently viewed a documentary on the National Geographic Channel entitled "Hitler and the Occult" about the influence of occult teachings on Nazi philosophy. This documentary repeated a claim I have heard from a number of other sources that Hitler got his notions about racial purity and the so-called "Aryan superman" from the theosophical writings of Helena P. Blavatsky, and that Hitler even kept a copy of H. P. Blavatsky's theosophical masterpiece entitled The Secret Doctrine by his bedside.

It may well be that Hitler kept a copy of The Secret Doctrine by his bedside, and he may have even read it, but it couldn't have influenced Hitler's racial beliefs very thoroughly. The reason why I say this is because Hitler believed that the New Man would emerge out of Germany and that this emergence would be owing to his racial purity; however, in sharp contrast to Hitler's views, Blavatsky wrote the following in The Secret Doctrine:
Occult philosophy teaches that even now, under our very eyes, the new Race and Races are preparing to be formed, and that it is in America that the transformation will take place, and has already silently commenced. Pure Anglo-Saxons hardly three hundred years ago, the Americans of the United States have already become a nation apart, and, owing to a strong admixture of various nationalities and inter-marriage, almost a race sui generis, not only mentally, but also physically...Thus the Americans have become in only three centuries a “primary race,” pro tem., before becoming a race apart, and strongly separated from all other now existing races. They are, in short, the germs of the Sixth sub-race, and in some few hundred years more, will become most decidedly the pioneers of that race which must succeed to the present European or fifth sub-race, in all its new characteristics. (Source: http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-1-25.htm )
The contrast between what Hitler believed and what Blavatsky wrote could not be much more blatant. Hitler believed in German racial purity while Blavatsky claimed that the amalgamation of nationalities and interbreading that is taking place in America will result in the formation of the next root race.

I have to wonder why so many reputable sources would repeat a false claim such as this, especially when the truth is so easily verifiable!

[nofuture]

Interesting.

Incidentally I read recently that Himmler carried a copy of the Indo-Aryan scripture Bhagavad Gita everywhere he went.

[1977]

Why? The same reason those "reputable sources" call her a Satanist.

[bendoon]

Hitlers hand written notes on the Bible,

http://nobeliefs.com/HitlerBible.htm

Then comes the 1st item of his outline, The Bible-- Monumental History of Mankind, with the "Children of God and Men", "Basic Race law," "First people's history (based on) the race law" and "Eternal course of History," all under the subset of The Bible-- Monumental History of Mankind. This bears importance because it shows Hitler here connecting his racial thoughts directly with the Bible which he apparently thought of as not only the actual history of mankind but a Monumental one at that. He sees humans as two types, "Children of God and Men." There's no question that Hitler thought of Aryans as separate and superior to Jews, as he so often expressed. The obvious interpretation here means that The Aryans represented the children of God (the Builders) and the Jews as the children of Men (destroyers).

[kasalt]

Hitlers hand written notes on the Bible,

http://nobeliefs.com/HitlerBible.htm

And there we have it: History rewritten!

Mainstream historians seem bent on pointing to some occult literature as the source and inspiration of Nazi racial policy, when in fact their source was none other than the Old Testament! What Hitler and the Nazis actually did was to take the Jewish strategy as it is described in the Old Testament and the Talmud and attempt to apply it to the German people. Basically, all the Nazis really did was attempt to put themselves in the place of the Jews as the so-called "chosen race".

To quote further from the article linked above:To understand how the Bible refers to race law, as the Nazis saw it, requires reading of the Nuremberg laws and Biblical references to the Old Testament that can lead to such beliefs. The Nazi, Julius Streicher, explained during his trial that the race laws got based on Old Testament laws:"I have written such articles again and again; and in my articles I have repeatedly emphasized the fact that the Jews should serve as an example to every race, for they created the racial law for themselves-- the law of Moses, which says, 'If you come into a foreign land you shall not take unto yourself foreign women.' And that, Gentlemen, is of tremendous importance in judging the Nuremberg Laws.. These laws of the Jews were taken as a model for these laws."

[kasalt]

Why? The same reason those "reputable sources" call her a Satanist.

I would imagine that, at least from the orthodox Christian perspective, Blavatsky was a Satanist. Consider these quotes from The Secret Doctrine:The appellation Sa’tan, in Hebrew satan, “an adversary” (from the verb shatana, “to be adverse,” to persecute) belongs by right to the first and cruelest “adversary of all the other gods” — Jehovah, not to the Serpent, which spoke only words of sympathy and wisdom, and is at the worst, even in the dogma, “the adversary of men.” ... The “Serpent,” moreover, is not Satan, but the bright Angel, one of the Elohim clothed in radiance and glory, who, promising the woman that if they ate of the forbidden fruit “ye shall not surely die,” kept his promise, and made man immortal in his incorruptible nature...Thus “Satan,” once he ceases to be viewed in the superstitious, dogmatic, unphilosophical spirit of the Churches, grows into the grandiose image of one who made of terrestrial a divine man; who gave him, throughout the long cycle of Maha-kalpa the law of the Spirit of Life, and made him free from the Sin of Ignorance, hence of death...Satan and his rebellious host will thus prove to have become the direct Saviours and Creators of divine man.
Furthermore, I am reminded of a story I read some years ago in a biography of Blavatsky published by the Theosophical Society, regarding the baptism of the infant Helena at the hands of a Russian Orthodox priest. According to this account, when the priest reached the point of cursing Satan, his robe caught fire from a candle, burning him and others severely. I cannot recall if the priest died from his wounds. Also, later on in her life Blavatsky claimed that exorcisms performed on her by Russian Orthodox priests--apparently to no avail (although I don't know why they were performed on her in the first place).

Regarding the racism issue, I should add that although Blavatsky wrote that the "new Race" is evolving in America as the result of "inter-marriage", she apparently did not intend to include non-white races in the mix. In The Secret Doctrine, she wrote:Mankind is obviously divided into god-informed men and lower human creatures. The intellectual difference between the Aryan and other civilized nations and such savages as the South Sea Islanders, is inexplicable on any other grounds. No amount of culture, nor generations of training amid civilization, could raise such human specimens as the Bushmen, the Veddhas of Ceylon, and some African tribes, to the same intellectual level as the Aryans, the Semites, and the Turanians so called. The “sacred spark” is missing in them and it is they who are the only inferior races on the globe, now happily — owing to the wise adjustment of nature which ever works in that direction — fast dying out. Verily mankind is “of one blood,” but not of the same essence. We are the hot-house, artificially quickened plants in nature, having in us a spark, which in them is latent.
(Source: http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-1-23.htm )

[1977]

Regarding the racism issue, I should add that although Blavatsky wrote that the "new Race" is evolving in America as the result of "inter-marriage", she apparently did not intend to include non-white races in the mix. In The Secret Doctrine, she wrote:
I stand corrected.

[swethirte]

The Theosophical Society which she founded is not racist though. I should know, I used to be a member before I found my true spiritual calling. The first of its three aims and ideals is:

"To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, without distinction of race, creed, sex, caste or color."

[kasalt]

Another quote from The Secret Doctrine that the Nazis apparently would not have appreciated very much:
"The occult doctrine admits of no such divisions as the Aryan and the Semite, accepting even the Turanian with ample reservations. The Semites, especially the Arabs, are later Aryans — degenerate in spirituality and perfected in materiality. To these belong all the Jews and the Arabs."
(Source: http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-1-10.htm )

[sophia_h]

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Another quote from The Secret Doctrine
that the Nazis apparently would not have appreciated very much:
"The occult doctrine admits of no such divisions as the
Aryan and the Semite, accepting even the Turanian with ample
reservations. The Semites, especially the Arabs, are later Aryans —
degenerate in spirituality and perfected in materiality.
To these belong all the Jews and the Arabs."
(Source: http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-1-10.htm )





The Semites, especially the Arabs, are later Aryans —
degenerate in spirituality and perfected in materiality.
To these belong all the Jews and the Arabs."


degenerate in spirituality and perfected in materiality.


says it well as to the views of National Socialism which
placed value on family, small farms, community ties ,
love of FOLK and Nation .

This is bringing Spirituality to the forefront
and placing value on the simple things in life,
not grandiose materialsim.

The basis of the National Socialist philosophy.



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[synergy777]

has anyone got a pdf of the secret doctrine.

i have just recently read parts of isis unveiled. by blavatsky. she loves india, lol

hitler was occult based, his love of the aryan culture, the black arts. some indian scholars actually supported the nazi machine, they stupidly thought hitler was kalki, the 10th incarnation.

[kasalt]

has anyone got a pdf of the secret doctrine.

Here's a link: http://www.theosophytrust.org/Online_Books/The_Secret_Doctrine_Vol_1_V3.0.2.pdf


says it well as to the views of National Socialism...

True, there is a lot that Hitler would have appreciated about The Secret Doctrine, so I'm not surprised to hear that he kept a copy of it by his bedside. However, as I stated in the original post, there was a fundamental difference between the racial views of Blavatsky and Hitler. Hitler believed that the German race was superior to all other Europeans, and he further believed that the Nordic strain was superior to other Germans. According to Hitler, it was the Nordic strain that was to produce the Aryan superman.

Blavatsky, contrary to Hitler, wrote that the "new Race" is currently under development in America (a process that will take several centuries), and that this new Race is the result of the interbreeding of various racial strains. This is a central and most crucial point of disagreement between Blavatsky and Hitler, so Hitler obviously did not get his views from Blavatsky. Why so many mainstream media outlets choose to trumpet this idea is beyond me. Is this disinformation, or just misinformation? Is there an agenda at work here?

Does anyone know exactly what was Hitler's inspiration for his racial views was? If so, please post!

[1977]

has anyone got a pdf of the secret doctrine.

i have just recently read parts of isis unveiled. by blavatsky. she loves india, lol

Yeah, I've been reading through Isis Unveiled and it's a rather interesting book. Blavatsky was obviously extremely well-read, and if nothing else, the sheer amount of data she collects together in one book makes it one I would recommend that people here read.

Her understanding of the origins of Christianity and the life of Jesus also seems uncannily accurate with what we've learned since the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls as well.

[1977]

This might prove that Blavatsky's racial ideas were a bit more complex than Hitler's:

Besides, there are many good reasons why the study of magic, except in its broad philosophy, is nearly impracticable in Europe and America. Magic being what it is, the most difficult of all sciences to learn experimentally--its acquisition is practically beyond the reach of the majority of white-skinned people; and that, whether their effort is made at home or in the East. Probably not more than one man in a million of European blood is fitted--either physically, morally, or psychologically--to become a practical magician, and not one in ten millions would be found endowed with all these three qualifications as required for the work. Civilized nations lack the phenomenal powers of endurance, both mental and physical, of the Easterns; the favoring temperamental idiosyncrasies of the Orientals are utterly wanting in them. In the Hindu, the Arabian, the Thibetan, an intuitive perception of the possibilities of occult natural forces in subjection to human will, comes by inheritance; and in them, the physical senses as well as the spiritual are far more finely developed than in the Western races. Notwithstanding the notable difference of thickness between the skulls of a European and a Southern Hindu, this difference, being a purely climatic result, due to the intensity of the sun's rays, involves no psychological principles. Furthermore, there would be tremendous difficulties in the way of training, if we can so express it. Contaminated by centuries of dogmatic superstition, by an ineradicable--though quite unwarranted--sense of superiority over those whom the English term so contemptuously "niggers," the white European would hardly submit himself to the practical tuition of either Kopt, Brahman, or Lama. To become a neophyte, one must be ready to devote himself heart and soul to the study of mystic sciences. Magic--most imperative of mistresses--brooks no rival. Unlike other sciences, a theoretical knowledge of formulai without mental capacities or soul powers, is utterly useless in magic. The spirit must hold in complete subjection the combativeness of what is loosely termed educated reason, until facts have vanquished cold human sophistry.

[synergy777]

Here's a link: http://www.theosophytrust.org/Online_Books/The_Secret_Doctrine_Vol_1_V3.0.2.pdf



True, there is a lot that Hitler would have appreciated about The Secret Doctrine, so I'm not surprised to hear that he kept a copy of it by his bedside. However, as I stated in the original post, there was a fundamental difference between the racial views of Blavatsky and Hitler. Hitler believed that the German race was superior to all other Europeans, and he further believed that the Nordic strain was superior to other Germans. According to Hitler, it was the Nordic strain that was to produce the Aryan superman.

Blavatsky, contrary to Hitler, wrote that the "new Race" is currently under development in America (a process that will take several centuries), and that this new Race is the result of the interbreeding of various racial strains. This is a central and most crucial point of disagreement between Blavatsky and Hitler, so Hitler obviously did not get his views from Blavatsky. Why so many mainstream media outlets choose to trumpet this idea is beyond me. Is this disinformation, or just misinformation? Is there an agenda at work here?

Does anyone know exactly what was Hitler's inspiration for his racial views was? If so, please post!

cheers, anymore links to pdfs of esoteric books eg blavatsky, bailey, crowley, massey, higgins, clive prince, ralph ellis, piers compton, alexander hislop etc would be greatly appreciated.

[peter griffin]

Can you explain the connection with the Thule Society,Thosophy and the Nazi occult connection?
It seems to me that the foundation of Nazism was based on Darwin,Nietzsche and Teutonic knight legends.

[2013]

A bloke i knew (sorry sounds like the start of a Derek and Clive sketch ) a few years back said that America only voted to speak English over German by 6% when they voted on it originally due to the high proportion of German
immigrants there . Also America is viewed as the new Atlantis or the birthplace of reincarnated atlanteans in some spiritual circles .So there are similarities there.Perhaps Germany was model for what is know taking place in America , just as Great Britain is the supposed lost 13th tribe of Israel .The bigger picture need s to be viewed :D

[kasalt]

A bloke i knew (sorry sounds like the start of a Derek and Clive sketch ) a few years back said that America only voted to speak English over German by 6% when they voted on it originally due to the high proportion of German
immigrants there .

I've heard this claim myself and I've even repeated it as fact, but it turns out not to be the case. Here are some links explaining the facts about that:
Myth: A proposal in Congress to make German the official language of the United States failed by one vote.

Reality: Congress never voted on a proposal to make German the official language. (The myth probably is based on a 1794 proposal to translate some laws into German. It was defeated in the House of Representatives, 42-41.)
http://www.us-english.org/view/12

http://www.usefoundation.org/foundation/issues/founders.asp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhlenberg_legend

http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/german.asp

What is true is that German-American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German-American)s make up the single largest ethnic group in the country (currently at about 17% of the population), and this has been true throughout much of the nation's history.

[kasalt]

Regarding the racism issue, I should add that although Blavatsky wrote that the "new Race" is evolving in America as the result of "inter-marriage", she apparently did not intend to include non-white races in the mix. In The Secret Doctrine, she wrote:Mankind is obviously divided into god-informed men and lower human creatures. The intellectual difference between the Aryan and other civilized nations and such savages as the South Sea Islanders, is inexplicable on any other grounds. No amount of culture, nor generations of training amid civilization, could raise such human specimens as the Bushmen, the Veddhas of Ceylon, and some African tribes, to the same intellectual level as the Aryans, the Semites, and the Turanians so called. The “sacred spark” is missing in them and it is they who are the only inferior races on the globe, now happily — owing to the wise adjustment of nature which ever works in that direction — fast dying out. Verily mankind is “of one blood,” but not of the same essence. We are the hot-house, artificially quickened plants in nature, having in us a spark, which in them is latent.
(Source: http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-1-23.htm )
Here are a couple more quotes along the same vein as the one above:The monads of the lowest specimens of humanity (the “narrow-brained”* savage South-Sea Islander, the African, the Australian) had no Karma to work out when first born as men, as their more favoured brethren in intelligence had. The former are spinning out Karma only now; the latter are burdened with past, present, and future Karma. (Source: The Secret Doctrine, vol. 2, p. 168; http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-1-08.htm )

The Cycles of Matter will be succeeded by Cycles of Spirituality and a fully developed mind. On the law of parallel history and races, the majority of the future mankind will be composed of glorious Adepts. Humanity is the child of cyclic Destiny, and not one of its Units can escape its unconscious mission, or get rid of the burden of its co-operative work with nature. Thus will mankind, race after race, perform its appointed cycle-pilgrimage. Climates will, and have already begun, to change, each tropical year after the other dropping one sub-race, but only to beget another higher race on the ascending cycle; while a series of other less favoured groups — the failures of nature — will, like some individual men, vanish from the human family without even leaving a trace behind. (Source: Ibid, p. 446; http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-1-25.htm )

[jyubo]

Hitler didnt like occult stuff, he made fun of it.....

About his racial standpoints , he got it from books like Arthur de Gobineau , also his nazi ideologist Alfred Rosenberg took the nuremberg laws from the Old testament( orthodox jews dont mix with goyim= germans musn't mix with jews)....

Philosophy,art and other stuff also made a huge impact on Hitler (for example Oswald Spengler - the author of The Decline of the West , says that if germany doesnt establish a hegemony in Europe , the western civilization will decline....) , nietzsche also influenced Hitler with his - Will to power philosophy...
Ill write later , I gtg now ....

[nofuture]

Hitler didnt like occult stuff, he made fun of it.....

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I think he condemns it in Hitler's Table Talk. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler%27s_Table_Talk)

[the nine]

Hitlers hand written notes on the Bible,
Quote:
Then comes the 1st item of his outline, The Bible-- Monumental History of Mankind, with the "Children of God and Men", "Basic Race law," "First people's history (based on) the race law" and "Eternal course of History," all under the subset of The Bible-- Monumental History of Mankind. This bears importance because it shows Hitler here connecting his racial thoughts directly with the Bible which he apparently thought of as not only the actual history of mankind but a Monumental one at that. He sees humans as two types, "Children of God and Men." There's no question that Hitler thought of Aryans as separate and superior to Jews, as he so often expressed. The obvious interpretation here means that The Aryans represented the children of God (the Builders) and the Jews as the children of Men (destroyers).

http://nobeliefs.com/HitlerBible.htm

this is a common misconception, the nazi's saw themselves and jews as being superior to the rest of society, and jews being the biggest conspirators and threat to the german nordic bloodline and its progression, back to the summit of mankind.
Mengale can be quoted as saying the germans or the jews will one day rule the world.
they believed that the nordic germanic pure booldline was 230,000 years old and that modern genetic pollution was threatening to dilute their precious genes out of existence.
they executed jews because they were a threat just like the political german consciencious objectors who were gassed by the thousands, they saw gypsies and homosexuals and physicallyand/or mentally handicapped people as degenerates, and their execution was 'mercy' killings..eugenics!
eugenics was a subject the nazi's elaborated on from the british!


I just read Mengale [the complete story] by gerald l polsner and john ware..
if he wasnt helped through out his time on the run in south america by secret societys, then he must have been the luckiest man alive!

[ladybird]

Very intersting information, Kasalt!

You seem to have taken a lot of trouble to dig out these information.

Google Germany is subjected to heavy censorship.

I would never have come accross these documents without finding this thread.


Thanks!

:)