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erikneo
02-07-2007, 06:16 PM
The Earth is hollow, with an inner sun and a more advanced civilization than ours.In fact, all planets are hollow and have inner suns. Some of the Inner Earth people are aware of Earth's outer surface, and others are not.
http://i18.tinypic.com/4mj5i55.gif
The Polar Openings
There are two polar openings (one at the North Pole and one at the South Pole) that lead into Inner Earth. You yourself have seen the sunlight of the inner sun--this is what the aurora borealis (the northern lights) and the
aurora australis (the southern lights) are.
http://i13.tinypic.com/4q3ykol.gif
One cannot travel to the North Pole or to the South Pole for two reasons:
1.) The North Pole and the South Pole do not exist. In their places are polar openings that lead into Inner Earth.
2.) Anyone who attempts to travel to a polar opening is eventually stopped by Outer Earth guardsmen as they near the opening.
You are looking at actual NASA footage of sunlight emitting
from Jupiter's north pole.
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/archive/PIA03453.gif
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/archive/PIA03452.gif
http://www.truthism.com/
truthseeker1980
02-07-2007, 06:27 PM
I read about this years ago, but not found much to go on. Apparently the theory is actually patented by some scientist back in the 1920's, thus is not a conspiracy but a mystery, which has been hidden from the masses.
The one thing that throws me, everytime Itry and comprehend this though is, what/how and where do the beings walk, are they pulled gravitationally outwards so they walk on the underside of our crust or is there a platform they walk around the middle of the inner sun?
Don't suppose anyone knows, this though. Just puzzles me.
erikneo
02-07-2007, 06:54 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
i'm going to go look in google earth.
hagbard_celine
02-07-2007, 06:57 PM
I read about this years ago, but not found much to go on. Apparently the theory is actually patented by some scientist back in the 1920's, thus is not a conspiracy but a mystery, which has been hidden from the masses.
The one thing that throws me, everytime Itry and comprehend this though is, what/how and where do the beings walk, are they pulled gravitationally outwards so they walk on the underside of our crust or is there a platform they walk around the middle of the inner sun?
Don't suppose anyone knows, this though. Just puzzles me.
They walk on the crust like we do, but for them "down" is in the opposite direction because the source of gravity is the mass of the Earth's crust. It's a complicated affair and gravity never behaves in the same way everywhere, but walking on the Inner Earth's surface feels no different to walking on its outside surface.
It's funny to think that, seeing as the crust is only a couple of hundred miles thick, that these folk are just a few hours car journey away, if you could drive straight down.
auron
02-07-2007, 07:11 PM
It's funny to think that, seeing as the crust is only a couple of hundred miles thick, that these folk are just a few hours car journey away, if you could drive straight down.
Or dig your way down.
http://www.rdl.co.nz/images/bucketspade.jpg
titurel
02-07-2007, 07:20 PM
Many occultists, such as Blavatsky, state that Shambala (aka Shangri La and Thule) is a subterranean city/kingdom where advanced beings dwell. Through the Great White Brotherhood, these subterranean beings are guiding civilisation and current world leaders towards the NWO!
erikneo
02-07-2007, 07:30 PM
Can't use google earth,Imagery satellites usually won't orbit 90 degrees to the ecliptic.
titurel
02-07-2007, 07:36 PM
Can't use google earth,Imagery satellites usually won't orbit 90 degrees to the ecliptic.
It's a conspiracy!
pumma
02-07-2007, 08:13 PM
Found this link ...
http://www.librarising.com/hollow/index.html
bigus_dickus
02-07-2007, 08:20 PM
it would be cool if it is hollow.. whole new world inside under our feet.. new sun, new problems.. all good
archangel
02-07-2007, 08:47 PM
hollow earth is a cool idea...
I don't think there is literally a hollow earth with a sun,etc. But I can't say for certain there is not either. I guess it is a possibility.
I'd be more open to the idea that there are underground bases within the earth at the poles. but not that the earth is literally hollowed out.
auron
02-07-2007, 08:56 PM
I'd be more open to the idea that there are underground bases within the earth at the poles. but not that the earth is literally hollowed out.
Maybe they're saying the same thing cept the other way round, on their version of davidicke.com :D
pedsi
02-07-2007, 10:33 PM
Maybe we live in the hollow earth and we are manipulated to beleive we live on the surface??????:eek:
rossus
02-07-2007, 10:38 PM
i'm amazed there are people on here who seem to be convinced that the hollow earth and it's own civilization is a fact...
i am open for the possibility of a hollow earth civilization but there just is no evidence to believe it is a fact.
to my knowledge, there is only theory. so how can some of the people on here be convinced ? :eek:
neutron flux
03-07-2007, 02:00 AM
The Earth is hollow, with an inner sun and a more advanced civilization than ours.In fact, all planets are hollow and have inner suns. Some of the Inner Earth people are aware of Earth's outer surface, and others are not.
Says who? When did they conduct this survey of the inner earth people and their awareness and advancement of their supposed civilisation?
There are two polar openings (one at the North Pole and one at the South Pole) that lead into Inner Earth. You yourself have seen the sunlight of the inner sun--this is what the aurora borealis (the northern lights) and the
aurora australis (the southern lights) are.
Is this meant to be some kind of fact? Based on what?
One cannot travel to the North Pole or to the South Pole for two reasons:
1.) The North Pole and the South Pole do not exist. In their places are polar openings that lead into Inner Earth.
2.) Anyone who attempts to travel to a polar opening is eventually stopped by Outer Earth guardsmen as they near the opening.
Outer Earth guardsmen?
You are looking at actual NASA footage of sunlight emitting
from Jupiter's north pole.
Yeah, Jupiter. Saturn has rings - does that mean that we automatically have rings? I don't think that proves anything about Earth.
space lizard
03-07-2007, 02:29 AM
I'm reading "The Hollow Earth" at the moment. Its a book David recommends in The Biggest Secret. I laughed my bollocks off when I first read about the Earth being Hollow, especially because I was on a page about Nazi Foo Fighters. (Hitlers flying saucers).
However.
I'm half way through the book any I'm utterly convinced. As Dr Raymond Bernard says in the book, It's not up to us to prove the earth is hollow its up to the solid earth theorist to prove it is solid.
Anyone who gets near to proving the earth is hollow meets a sudden and often violent death.
I also have ordered a book called The lost diary of Admiral Richard E Byrd.
Here we have an american congretional medal of honour winning war hero who was lauded as a kind of Flash Gordon in the post WWII era. He flew into the Hollow Earth, documented ths expedition on Radio and publicsh a book about it, then died a year layer and the books are hushed away by the mainstream.
Have a look on the official US congretional medal of honour page about him, his book cover has a picture of a plane flying into a hole in the north pole.
scroll down to the book cover
http://www.medalofhonor.com/RichardByrd.htm
By the way here's a couple of people who also
support that the Hollow Earth Theory
Albert Einstein /
Steven Hawkins /
Edmond Halley ( Halley's Commet) /
Isaac Newton /
loads more prominent scientists also, but somehow the
mainstrean convinces us science thinks its solid.
erikneo
03-07-2007, 03:59 AM
It would be more exciting to believe it is until they prove it is not hollow.I'm going to put it in my reality until it is proven.
So who cares if you believe it or not.Does it effect you in anyway?
Its more fun to believe in it.
Don't take beliefs so seriously,they will destroy you.
auron
03-07-2007, 08:35 AM
It would be more exciting to believe it is until they prove it is not hollow.I'm going to put it in my reality until it is proven.
So who cares if you believe it or not.Does it effect you in anyway?
Its more fun to believe in it.
Don't take beliefs so seriously,they will destroy you.
So true! For all we know, we could just be on a glass slide under a microscope in some aliens' bedroom. :D
fuknut
03-07-2007, 09:43 AM
Hi there everybody !!
There is a lot of researchers saying that the earth is indeed hollow - like this one
Yes, I'm basically thinking along the lines of ALL/MOST planets/moons actually being hollow - like a tennis ball. You could say that I'm "testing" this hypothesis by looking around at literature, anomalies, doing some thinking, etc.
I'm still examining the evidence, thinking about the various aspects and just pondering the whole issue. I like to take my time and think things through. Sometimes I dawdle on like this for years. Don't be fooled into thinking that I haven't had a look at seismology or geology or gravity or other issues. I have.
The basic postulate is simply that the entire Earth is hollowed out. That most of what we see resembles a tennis ball. There's a hard/flexible outer shell which can take meteor impacts - up to a certain size. But at the Poles there are 2 gigantic holes somewhere from 800 - 1200 miles in diameter (at their widest point). These huge holes can be entered and you can sail or fly or walk all the way into the interior. Gravity still works as normal, but it holds you "up" the other way. The holes are so big, that you don't even know they're there (except from space).
Thus a ship would sail as normal. Winds would blow and so on. The atmosphere flows in as well. The atmosphere isn't very thick. 99% of the atmosphere is contained in the first 30 miles. So if you will consider a hole perhaps 1200 miles wide, curving gently inside, through a crust of 900 miles in thickness, then at the NARROWEST part you will have a gap of about 300 miles or so. It is quite possible therefore that in the middle of this hole is a pure vacuum. That "space" as we know it, exists in the middle of this hole and that as this hole once again widens on to the inside, that we find ourselves in a vaccuum in the centre of the earth. Inside the earth, like on the outside, will be oceans, mountains, rivers, continents and atmosphere. But that atmosphere, like on the outside will be 30 miles high. Now if the Earth's crust is say 900 miles thick, then we find that beyond the inner atmosphere is a vaccuum of:
7900 - 900 - 900 - 30 - 30 = 6040 miles in diameter. That would be big enough to fit the Moon into it. The Moon being only 2160 miles in diameter. But no, there's no moon inside. Although a fellow by the name of Symmes, postulated that inside the Earth was another Earth and another (5 or 8 levels within each other). But Symmes was somewhat different. What I'm talking about is much simpler - the same thing that Olaf Jansen says he saw and the same thing the Tibetans talk of. That inside we have a world which is exactly the same as on the outside. In this Inner vaccuum, is a little Sun. A small nuclear powered sun - possibly powered by nuclear fission rather than fusion as stars are. A tiny sun about 30 - 300 miles in diameter (a guess) would weight many millions of tons and would give forth light. This little Sun would wobble around in the centre of this vaccuum. Being nuclear in nature it would generate a magnetic field - as does our Sun. This magnetic field would flow out of the Earth through its holes. As this little Sun wobbled around, so would the magnetic field. This magnetic current would flow out of say the South pole across the surface of the earth and in through the North pole. A compass on a ship on the outside would point towards the North. As you get closer to the hole, the compass would begin pointing DOWN. If you don't physically adjust your compass down then it might begin spinning around. As you go deeper into the hole and reach the inner surface you would find your compass returning to normal again. It would still point "north" but that would now be south.
The Earth's motion through space is not perfectly constant. In fact the Earth speeds up and slows down in its motion. Thus our little inner sun would wobble around (like a passenger in a bus).
But how would the Inner sun stay in the centre and not crash to the side? Well, this is where I can point to a most "bizarre" connection with that book "My contact with Flying Saucers". (Its not about the Hollow Earth, but its about physics - Alien style). The Alien Captain tells us about the repulsion of light. What is interesting is that the theory of gravity alone would be unable to account for a central sun holding its position. The central sun would move - inevitably - because of the earth changing its speed and direction. Gravity as we know it would cause the central Sun to crash into the side of the Earth. The moment the central Sun moved even a little to one side, gravity from the closest side would draw it to the wall and the central Sun would crash into the side. But, the Alien Captain explained a great deal about the pressure of light. Since this central Sun emits light, the light would of course push against the Earth. So let's say the Earth slows down a little. The central Sun should come crashing into the side. Well, in this case as it comes closer to one side, the pressure of light - due to its nearness, would push harder on the earth and impart a bit more momentum to it. This is negligible really. More importantly, the light of the Sun would be reflected back onto the Sun itself thereby pushing it back. The central Sun would thus wobble back and forth and move around in sympathy to changes in the speed and direction of the motion of the Earth.
Light from the Inner earth would shine out through the holes. But since the holes are really very tiny, it would not happen often. Note the Maedler phenomenon I mentioned with regard to Venus? That only on 2 occassions so far: 1686 and 1833, have astronomers observered light shining out of both Venus's poles. At other times, the light shining out would be indirect light and it would form the Aurora.
The Aurora chops and changes and to a certain extent moves and behaves in sympathy with the Earth's magnetic field and the emissions from the central Sun. Science knows very well that there's a link between the Aurora and the Magnetic field. The problem is, that they reckon it is due to emissions from the Sun. The Alien Captain tells us some other things about "Alien Physics" - like, the fact that Stars only shine when in a magnetic field. In this case therefore we can arrive at another explanation for the apparent link between the Aurora, magnetic field and the central sun. It goes thus:
When the Sun begins acting up and generating more emissions (at all wave lengths), it may also be generating a stronger magnetic field. This in turn causes the central Sun to shine more brightly and to emit more light.
While digging through texts on the Aurora, I came across mention of calculations done by scientists. The problem they found was that the Sun could NOT be the cause of the Aurora. The problem being that we do not receive enough particles from the Sun in the upper atmosphere of the Earth to cause the Aurora. Their calculations show that there are more "sun-like" particles up there in the atmosphere at the Poles than there should be by the action of the Sun alone. So they are stumped. But, if you look at Hollow Earth theory, you'll have no problem accounting for this. There will be enough reflected light and emissions coming out from the hole (depending on the position of the central Sun). These particles are ALSO sun-like and they, plus the particles from the Sun cause the aurora.
One could ask oneself many questions about conventional Aurora theory. Like: Why are auroras only around the poles? Surely there should be MORE particles arriving from the sun at other places on the Earth than at the poles - which are so oblique. Why aren't there more auroras all over the place? Why only the poles? (Proximity to the magnetic poles is the current explanation).
The Earth's magnetic field - IMHO - could be caused entirely by the central Sun. I have come to wonder whether perhaps magnetic fields are ONLY caused by "Suns" - and NEVER by normal matter as we know it - except when specially magnetised. If so, then any planetary body with a magnetic field must therefore have a central Sun. Now this is an interesting conjecture because time and again we find magnetic fields on "cold bodies" where our scientists have calculated that that body can not have a heated central core.
That central Sun also produces heat. And if we have winds blowing in and out from the Inner earth to the Outer earth, then we should have some sort of heat exchange. The same is true of water. Note those Antarctic pollyanas I spoke about.
In the early days of Arctic exploration scientists calculated the expected temperatures for the latitudes as explorers moved north. Invariably they found that northern latitudes were far warmer than they should be if heat from the Sun alone was the source. I have come across calculations done a few decades ago by a Polish scientist in this regard. His calculations of the Earth's temperature show that the temperatures at the poles are 30 degrees warmer than they should be. So our scientists then say that it is warm equatorial air warming the poles. But does that really make sense? Is there really enough equatorial air going far enough to the poles and retaining its heat long enough to keep them 30 degrees warmer?
I often wonder if air exchange may cause havoc with all those super-computers which are calculating next week's weather!
Where on the earth would you expect to find the most fish? Believe it or not, the Polar regions have a greater density of fish life than the equator and warmer areas. Fish have a type of anti-freeze in their blood. But that does not explain why they should thrive more in such regions. Or is it that fish from the Inner earth - where the people do not fish as much as we do - spill over and swim out of the holes?
The same is true of bird life. There are accounts too of bears and other creatures in the Arctic going NORTH for winter.
There really are a lot of issues to look at. But there are enough strange things which makes one wonder. The pattern which I have stumbled across - and only really appreciated fully recently - is that most types of Fortean phenomenon are related to the Hollow Earth/planets or Subteranean issues in one way or another. It seems to me that Forteana - if nothing else - is pointing the way. I never expected this.
One thing which I found interesting was that scientists have attempted to find the "centre" of the Earth's magnetic field. They found it was 82 miles off centre. But that's not the whole story. The Earth's magnetic field does not just gradually move westwards as we are told. From what I've read, the Earth's magnetic field actually moves in a jagged orbit of approximately 30 miles PER DAY. IOW, as the Earth rotates daily, and the Inner sun wobbles, this wobble is traced out as a jagged ellipse DAILY. This - if nothing else - should clearly show that this could not possibly be caused by currents. It shows that at any one moment, the position of the centre of the magnetic field is at a certain spot INDEPENDANT of the Earth's physical position. I have many problems with ALL convection current theories in the earth. I do not believe any of them. I have a particular argument dealing with convection currents in the core, plus the fact that gravity will grow less and less as you get closer to the centre of the earth (assuming its solid).
I have tried to get more data regarding the motion of the Earth's magnetic field. But, because I'm not in the USA I do not have access to the USGS magnetic data BBS. However I think it is worth studying.
If one could study the correlation between the movement of the earth in space, its rotation and that magnetic centre - you might just be able to prove that the Earth's magnetic field is being generated by a specific body.
Did you know that when atom bombs are exploded - that there is an aurora in that area for several days afterwards? That proves two things:
(a) An aurora can be produced in latitudes other than the poles.
(b) Nuclear FISSION can produce the particles which create an aurora.
This brings us to the formation of the Earth. Geologists have discovered that the Earth is not really cooling down, but that it generates its own heat. This is attributed to the decay of radium. But all radium is merely decayed URANIUM. Is it not possible therefore that when the Earth originally formed, that the heavier elements (as expected) would descend to the centre. Since the very heavy elements are unstable - all we would need is somewhere down there to be enough uranium to reach critical mass, and then we have a self-igniting naturally occuring nuclear reaction (like happened in Gabon in West Africa). Immediately it would melt the surrounding rock, produce enormous temperatures and soon immense quakes would shake the earth and enormous volcanoes would spew forth lava. Huge amounts which would form the first continents. As it melts everything around it, eventually, this wobbling nuclear reaction would hollow out the earth. Perhaps more than one such reaction begins and eventually all the nuclear reactions would end up in the middle of this space and amalgamate and form the central Sun. This would leave the entire Earth's crust honeycombed with large caverns and tunnels - in which subteranean life could exist at a future time. Later when things cool down, and a vaccum forms inside, water and air could be sucked inside. This is all very hypothetical and scanty. I can not for example think of a good reason why two holes should form. Perhaps weaker material will exist in those areas, or perhaps some north-south motion will cause the Inner Sun to wobble greatly between two points. Of course, those holes need not always be at the poles.
It is truly a fascinating subject, and the mere thought of Hollow worlds is quite exciting.
Was the "Garden of Eden" inside the Earth? Well, Olaf Jansen - who claims to have gone there emphatically says Yes!
Could it be that "normal" life is actually intended INSIDE worlds. Could we be the "abnormal?" I say this because if one overcomes the idea of a central Sun - then you immediately see many advantages in that sort of idea. I have done some basic calculations and a central Sun of 28 miles in diameter would present the same size in the sky as our Sun does. If its luminosity is in similar proportion, then that would be enough to light up and warm up such a world. Even such a tiny sun would weigh many millions of tons. Or, it could be bigger, but not so bright - in which case it would weigh many many more millions of tons.
Now think about this: Comets and meteors can destroy life. But, they can not harm any life at all which exists below the crust. The impact of even a small object 100 miles across could probably destroy all life on Earth. And an object 100 miles across - in space - is nothing - its like a spec of dust. Yet, even such an impact would have almost no effect on life on the Inside. It might produce an earthquake at best. Think too of climate. Here we live on the outside. Latitude=temperature. Go a little north and you get cold. Go to the equator and you get warm. Then you have day and night too. But, inside a globe, ALL POINTS are equidistant from that Sun. You could have an entire world with all of it having a tropical climate. Isn't this more sensible? Isn't this more conducive to life perhaps?
There is an interesting idea which the Buddhists have. They believe in cycles. In regular Earth changes, quakes - the ends of Ages. They believe that the Earth is a special place, a school.
Just a few weeks ago I mentioned that other book about UFO contact from Under the sea. There, Aliens also spoke of regular pole shifts and Alien peoples coming from far and wide to watch, study and help us through this catastrophic thing. But wait a minute! What about THEM? If they live as we do, then surely it should be happening to them too (since many of them are human and live under similar conditions). Why don't THEY have Pole shifts? Why aren't they afflicted by Earth changes? WHAT IS SO SPECIAL ABOUT US THAT EVERYONE SEES US AS A SORT OF EXCEPTION?
I have an idea - its a bizarre idea - but could it be that WE are among the very few who live on the OUTSIDE of our world? That our world is special - not because it has life - but because it has life on the Inside AND the Outside. Could that be the secret?
Have a look around. Whether you read about spiritulism, reincarnation, buddhism, UFOs...whatever. There is ONE THEME that keeps coming back to us over and over. It goes thus:
(a) There is life on many many planets. Many are Earth like.
(b) Earth is a SCHOOL, Earth is DIFFERENT from other planets.
(c) Life on Earth gets wiped out regularly.
(d) Why are there so many civilisations out there which do NOT seem to be wiped out regularly?
The question I keep asking is: Why? What should make Earth different from other places? This bizarre answer is most intruiging. Could it be that *WE* have our entire point of view REVERSED from the NORM in the Universe, because we live on the Outside? Thus when we go searching for life, we look only on the outside. So we see bare worlds - deserts and we say to ourselves that *WE* are the only life. YET, perhaps these same desert worlds have great civilisations inside their hollowed out interiors. But we just don't recognise it?
I want to point you to a bizarre coincidence which occurred in our group (the UFO/Prophecy group) many weeks ago. The significance of it will not have struck either you or Lew or most of the others at that time. So let me refresh your memory.
Remember "Tarabich" the Serbian prophet? Remember what Sever Jura told us about Tarabich's prophecies? Well, Tarabich had predicted (over 100 years ago) that we would go into space and all we would find were DESERT WORLDS. We would search but find no life. Then, much later, we would FIND LIFE on those same worlds, because we would understand something which we didn't understand before.
I didn't know about Tarabich. It was Lew who came across the guy and then we looked at his prophecies. But aren't those just the darndest statements? Was Tarabich predicting HOLLOW WORLDS?
It's worth thinking about.
BTW, Goro - I'm wondering if I ever sent you my original postings like the one "How it all began" and such like.
I welcome questions if there are any aspects which trouble you. It is truly a most difficult and most bizarre subject - the entire concept.
Oh yes, I nearly forgot something. You mentioned "remnants of Atlantis" living underground. This brings me to another interesting point. Imagine a continent/island of very advanced people with space ships, etc. Quakes rock the place. Now what's stopping them from evacuating and going to live ELSEWHERE on the Earth? Why should most of those people die from something as innocuous as some quakes? Why can't there be enough SURVIVORS? Why shouldn't there have been enough survivors to start new cities elsewhere? Not even in a nuclear war will you find EVERYONE dying.
Apart from them flying to another planet (which would seem pretty much an OVERREACTION wouldn't you say to something as simple as some quakes) - wouldn't it seem more likely that they found a much nicer place to live? Why live in underground tunnels and caverns when you can live on the surface in the sunshine? Why didn't they pick out the most beautiful place on the rest of the Earth and MOVE THERE? There must have been plenty of places to go. Or is it, that they knew of a place which IS nicer than anywhere on the surface and that they DID go there? And that may be where they are living today - in the Inner Earth - along with survivors from Lemuria, Mu and all the other civilisation?
Life on Earth thus works like this:
(a) New colonies of humans/beings are seeded on the surface after a Pole shift.
(b) If they develop enough and survive long enough to see it through to the next pole shift and all their cities are destroyed, then they move inside the Earth where things are much safer. If they have figured out that the Earth is hollow and they have the technology to move.
(c) Go back to (a) for the next Class.
This is a "conspiracy" on the part of higher beings/Gods and this is what "graduation" from the School of Planet Earth is all about. We get stuck here on the Outer Earth and we have to figure things out for ourselves. We begin as barbarians and savages and see if we can make it to eventually qualify for membership of a greater order in the Universe.
Kinda weird eh?
There's something which I think you might not have come across and that is the series of books written by Don Wilson. He wrote a book about a theory postulated by Soviet Scientists in the mid 1970's wherein they reckoned that our Moon was hollowed out - a spaceship in fact. There's actually tons of evidence for that. The Moon is a very strange place. It was not always there. The Soviets showed that the Moon has a very tough outer skin and all craters are very shallow REGARDLESS of the width of the meteor which struck and formed them. The *ONLY* exception is this newly photographed crater at the Moon's South Pole. It is much deeper than any of the other craters. The average density of the Moon is the same as aluminium and you know how light that is. There are all sorts of funny things which have happened on the Moon. Clouds of water vapour have been seen and measured by astronomers. All sorts of funny clouds have come out from the Moon. Many of the anomalies on the Moon have been documented by astronomers and are known as TLPs. I found the arguments for the Hollow Moon to be extremely strong. I can't see how anyone can think otherwise once you've gone through the data. The seismic data is extremely impressive too because it had scientists literally falling off their chairs when the first seismic information was in. There was also an analysis done by a scientist at NASA in 1962 wherein he concluded that the Moon must be hollow.
What is interesting - and you should keep this in mind - is that if one object is hollow, then it is likely that most everything else might be too. In Astronomy, MASS is dealt with on the basis of RELATIVE masses. So if the Moon is Hollow, then so could the Earth and everything else be - because GRAVITY (our gravity) is based on masses - relative masses and distances. If only one object was Hollow, then it would stand out like a sore thumb. But what if they all were?
Did you see my e-mail about Polar anomalies on different planets in the Solar System? Did you see that ZIP file of photos?
Cheers,
Jan
Seems absolutely possible.
Read further here:http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/janhol.html#Def
But make up your own mind - I have :D:D
fuknut
03-07-2007, 09:48 AM
Also from here http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/holearth.html
:D
Also from here:http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/tierrahueca/contents.htm#contents
The subjects of discussion: #
Chapter 1: Admiral Byrd's Epoch-Making Discovery
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Chapter 2: The Hollow Earth
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Chapter 3: William Reed's Book - "Phantom of the Poles"
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Chapter 4: Marshall B. Gardner's Book - "A Journey to the Earth's Interior Or Have the Poles Really Been Discovered?"
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Chapter 5: Was the North Pole Really Discovered?
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Chapter 6: The Origin of the Eskimos
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Chapter 7: The Subterranean Origin of the Flying Saucers
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Part 7.1: The Subterranean Origin of the Flying Saucers
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Part 7.2: Agharta, The Subterranean World
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Part 7.3: The Flight to the Land Beyond the North Pole
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Part 7.4: Underground Cities
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Chapter 8: Conclusion
Quite a read, but worth the time
fuknut
03-07-2007, 09:59 AM
Also
Hollow Planet Seismology Vs
Solid Earth Seismology
By Jan Lamprecht
WWW.HollowPlanets.com
Let me show you how my Hollow Planet seismic model can explain the Earth's seismology better than the existing solid Earth seismic model - and yet not one person at any university has shown the slightest interest in this.
The purpose of this page is to demonstrate a number of most amazing things about seismology to the Reader in the clearest and simplest manner possible. When I wrote my book I did delve into the many deeper and more technical aspects but I want to put that aside for now.
The purpose of this exercise is to show people visually a number of very important things which you will not find in any book on earth. (Note: This material lends itself to a TV/documentary presentation and I have tried unsuccessfully for the last 2 1/2 years to get someone to take some of my material and show it on TV because I believe it will blow people's minds). The solid Earth model is divided into three major segments (we will ignore the smaller ones as they do not affect the bigger picture). Those segments are (from the centre) : the Inner Core, the Outer Core and the Mantle.
Lesson #1: The Earth is NOT a ball of molten lava. The first question everyone asks me when they hear of the Hollow Planet idea is: "Where does lava come from then?" The (completely FALSE) impression schools have created in everyone's minds is that the Earth is this red-hot ball of lava. They then imagine that lava from volcanoes comes from the centre of the Earth. Ask any geologist or seismologist if this is true and you will discover they disagree. Standard geology and seismology texts tell a different story. Scientists know that most lava is slightly radioactive and they believe it is produced either by decaying radium (decayed uranium) or through stresses in the crust. Lava is created by heat generated within the crust of the Earth. The crust is said to be no more than 20 miles thick, although to be honest nobody has ever actually penetrated the crust so we really do not know what (if anything different) lies beneath it. Scientists will tell you that lava is a crustal phenomenon and all lava comes from no deeper than 20 miles down.
If the Earth were an "ocean of molten lava" then it would actually be subject to tidal pressures and the continents would be broken to pieces as the earth rotated. Scientists say the Earth is actually composed of solid rock for the most part. As you go deeper, the pressures are supposed to be so great that the rock actually flows from extreme pressure. (As you will see, even this may not be really true). But nowhere in modern geology or seismology will you see them saying the Earth is a ball of molten lava.
In fact, the final proof comes from seismology itself. When an earthquake occurs, seismic waves travel out in all directions throughout all the earth. There are two types of seismic waves: P and S. Based on this, scientists know that all of the earth is actually quite RIGID and composed only of rock. The only partial exception is the Outer core. Take a look the seismic diagram below. If the earth were truly molten, then seismic waves would be considerably dampened down. So the fact that seismic waves can travel through and around the earth shows that it is mostly completely rigid and solid.
In the above seismic diagram (from a text book on seismology), D=Mantle, E=Outer core, G=Inner core.
Lesson #2: Traditional Hollow Earth ideas fail the "seismology test". Let me show you why scientists simply laugh at the idea of a Hollow Planet. Keep in mind that all Hollow Earthers have, for more than a century, been saying that the Earth's crust is 800-1000 miles thick. Note in the above diagram, that seismic waves travel from the source of an earthquake (on the left) through the Earth at various angles and therefore reach the other side (this is not true of all seismic waves, but of the main ones, referred to as "P" waves). If you were to propose that a planet only has a crust of 1,000 miles or less, then this is why a scientist would laugh at you. See the image below.
In the above diagram you can see the seismic ray paths (red lines) moving away from an earthquake source. Note how the huge cavity in this "traditional" hollow earth model would block out all the "P" waves from reaching the other side of the Earth. So clearly, this type of approach does not fit the known scientific facts and so we must discard it.
Lesson #3: Is there any Hollow Earth seismic model which allows waves to go around the Earth? The obvious problem posed by the theory is that seismic waves actually reach right across to the other side of the Earth. Scientists are therefore quite confident that the P waves must have passed through the core of the Earth and this tells them that there cannot be a cavity.
When I did my feasibility study (which is what my book is), I looked at the problem from every conceivable angle to see if there was any Hollow Earth model which made seismic sense. I found only one - I repeat - only one, which has any merits. All other Hollow Earth seismic models are failures. Take a look at it below.
In the above model, I simply used the Earth's structure as scientists define it now. I replaced the Outer core with a cavity (I'll explain why later - because there is a sound reason for it). But the thing I changed was the structure of the Mantle. I wondered what would happen if density within a sphere did not increase uniformly as has been assumed. What if density actually DECREASES from a certain point onwards? You will notice all solid-earth seismology shows ray paths curving in a "U" back to the surface of the Earth. That is because density and pressure increases as you go deeper. But if, for some reason, density were to suddenly decrease, then the waves would curve in the opposite direction! I realised this, and you can see what then happens. In the middle of the Mantle, where density suddenly decreases, it causes seismic waves to travel around the cavity - right to the other side of the Earth!
You would be excused for believing that the waves might have passed through the core of the Earth when in fact nothing of the kind happened.
Lesson #4: The Mystery of the "Shadow Zone." The next problem in global seismology is explaining the mysterious "Shadow Zone". There is a lack of P waves between 103o-144o from the epicentre of a quake. Take a look at the problem as seen from a university-level text-book on seismology.
Note how the P waves strike the Outer core and scientists believe the refraction caused by this sudden change in density can explain the shadow. But notice, in this university-level text book how they are befuddled because there are still some waves which reach the shadow zone (dotted line). They are at a complete loss to explain this. Now let me explain to you how perfectly my Hollow Earth model solves this problem. Take a look at the image below.
After changing some parameters in my Hollow Planet seismic model, I have a "Shadow Zone" which matches the facts exactly! I made the cavity smaller, and I moved the "point of maximum density" (the dark circle in the Mantle) somewhat lower. Note: The Green area near the surface is the "Shadow Zone". Now look at the amazing thing that happens. We have P waves behaving as normal right up to 103o. Then suddenly there are very few of them inside the Shadow Zone and then after the Shadow Zone we are a greater and greater number of ray paths eventually converging on the other side of the Earth! This is exactly consistent with the known facts of global seismology!
Sometimes small things can make a huge difference. It is obvious from the Hollow Planet diagram why there would be a Shadow Zone. This is caused by the gradual change from "increasing density" to "decreasing density." This causes the waves to "split" - some to go down while others go up. So there has to then be an area on the surface which receives less seismic waves than normal - hence the "Shadow Zone." A really crucial point is that the "Shadow Zone" is not completely devoid of waves. In the Hollow Planet model you can see why - it makes perfect sense. In the solid earth model you can see they have to stretch their imaginations (dotted lines) in order to try to find some explanation. In their diagram they believe the Shadow is cased by sharp refraction - but clearly that explanation does not quite fit the facts.
Lesson #5: Proving, that the Outer and Inner cores - do not exist at all. You have been wondering why I removed the Outer Core altogether from my Hollow Planet seismic model. The answer is simple. There are two kinds of seismic waves - P waves - which are much like sound waves. They are pressure waves caused by a direct "push" through the matter. But then there are S waves - shear waves - which are like taking a piece of hose-pipe and moving it up and down rapidly. P waves can travel through everything except a vaccuum (although if they travelled through air they would be considerably weaker than when they travelled through rock or a liquid). S waves however, can only be transmitted through rigid materials - like rock. It has long been known to scientists that unlike P waves which can travel around the world - S waves are in fact "blocked" by something. They named this "something" the Outer core. They decided the Outer core had to be non-rigid. If the Outer core were a type of "liquid" then P waves could pass through it, but S waves could not. Hence they "invented" the Outer core. Very early on, when I became interested in the Hollow Earth idea, I realised this property of the Outer core, and I wondered if the Outer core was really a liquid, or if it was, in reality a cavity. My big problem however was figuring out how P waves behaved.
Now let me show you that the Outer core does not exist at all, while the Inner core is merely the part of the Earth in the immediate vicinity of the cavity!
Here we have a standard solid-Earth seismic model.
The waves we are interested in are those which passed throuh the core - the PKP and PKIKP waves. When one takes a look at the data showing the speed with which seismic waves travel, one discovers an interesting thing: Waves which pass through the core (those which are supposed to be going in a straight line) actually slow down! What makes this even more curious is that P waves are supposed to speed up when they pass through dense material. And there is no place on this planet which is as dense as the Inner core! So why do P waves then slow down? According to the formula for the transmission of sound/pressure waves - speed is affected by two factors: (a) Density (b) Elasticity. This gives scientists a way of getting out of the problem by saying: "If the Density has increased, but the wave has slowed down, it must THEREFORE mean that the Elasticity increased."
Let us return to my Hollow Planet seismic model.
Take a look at the ray paths of the waves which reached the other side of the Earth, beyond the Shadow Zones. Look at the paths they travelled. (a) They did not travel through the core - they took a longer path around the cavity/core. (b) They were the waves which travelled near the cavity - hence near the area of lowest density! Both those factors would cause the waves to take a longer time to travel to the other side of the Earth, hence, giving the appearance that they slowed down, while apparently travelling in a more-or-less straight line!! There, once more, we find a perfect match between my Hollow Planets Seismic model and what we know about global seismology. As you can see, this explanation accounts for everything observed and yet there is no need for either an Outer or Inner core.
Lesson #6: Amazing Seismic Speed Revelations - proving the Earth is homogenous. Seismologists often produce diagrams such as the one below which show the speed of seismic waves inside the Earth at various depths.
You will notice, at various depths, such as at the 5,000 Km level, the speed of waves changing very sharply - either speeding up or slowing down. Scientists look at these sharp changes in speed and then state that this is due to sharp changes in density. They use this to "prove" that the Mantle is composed of a different type of material to the Outer core and so forth. You have seen the Hollow Planets seismic model and how radically a seismic ray's path may differ from the solid Earth model. Supposing the Earth really is hollow, it would then follow that the paths of waves differ in reality from what scientific theory supposes. That being the case, scientists may suppose a certain ray speeds up or slows down when in fact it does nothing of the kind. If they knew the right path (like the rays going through the core for example), then it might turn out that such rapid speed changes never actually occur.
However, since scientists are obsessed with the need to have a model which matches the 6 trillion tons needed (according to their gravity experiments), they need to find a way of "packing lots of matter into the Earth". So they are looking for evidence of changes in density. I'm sure that when they find they have to account for certain behaviour by postulating such instantaneous increases/decreases in speed that it makes them confident they are on the right track. But the opposite may be true. It is entirely possible that if one knew the exact paths of the rays that one would find the speed of seismic waves would not vary that much.
This is a most important point. It would mean that my Hollow Planet seismic model is internally consistent. In other words, it postulates that the Earth is homogenous, and a resultant analysis of seismic wave speeds along the paths postulated should then prove that indeed the Earth is homogenous. This would be a further proof that my model is the right one and not the solid earth model.
Lesson #7: Deep Quakes may disprove the Solid Earth model. According to scientists, pressure increases with depth. According to their calculations the pressure is so great that between 70-150 Km down, all rock will begin to flow. Below 150 Km there is no known material which will not flow. Therefore, according to scientists, there can be no earthquakes with epicentres deeper than 150 Km - because it is IMPOSSIBLE!
But there are! Tens of thousands of Earthquakes have epicentres deeper than 150 Km. The histogram below shows some curious things.
It shows that earthquakes occur right up to a depth of 300 Km down. The picture is somewhat consistent with science's expectations because there are less quakes with depth (though they do not stop at 150 Km as expected). Then a most curious thing happens, they increase in number up to a depth of 700 Km where they end. Scientists try to explain these quakes by invoking various possible strange properties of matter. Although each theory advanced so far has had problems with it.
What no scientist on Earth is willing to accept is that maybe gravity does not behave the way they believe it does! That histogram may be the proof that gravity does not behave as is expected at depth. Why can't scientists look at that histogram and see it for what it might be telling us? That histogram may be "stating" quite clearly that the Earth does not have those pressures inside and that it remains relatively cool down to incredible depths? Maybe that diagram is "telling us" that gravity does not behave at depths the way we are expecting. If that is so, then everything we think we know about the mass of the Earth may be wrong.
Note, gravity is a very weak force and even a bit of static electricity could produce an attraction far in excess of anything gravity could produce - but with a fraction of the mass. If that is the case, you don't need to worry about the Earth having to have a mass of 6 trillion tons. It may weigh considerably less.
As final note, it may be that there are quakes deeper than 700 Km but they are so far away, and maybe the effects of gravity are so weak that they do not have enough force for us to detect them. Let me point out that seismologists have indeed speculated about the possible existence of "Silent Earthquakes" which are remain undetected by our equipment.
Occam's Razor & the Hollow Planets model: When in doubt, the simplest model is probably right. There is "rule" in science known as Occam's razor. Occam's Razor is a little piece of logic which states: When choosing between two or more theories it is most likely that the simplest explanation is the correct one. You have now seen my simple "sandwich" Hollow Planet model, which assumes the Earth is largely homogenous in composition, and you have seen how this simple model can match and even better the achievements of the more complex and unwieldy solid-Earth model. Does this idea of mine not satisfy Occam's Razor much more than the solid-Earth theory does?
I received an e-mail one day from someone studying at an American university. He said to me that he had never met such a closed-minded group of people as the Professors at Universities! Well, I would tend to agree with him. My book was published in July 1999. I sent copies to universities and I placed my book on the desks of university lecturers and Professors. Not one of them spent so much as 10 minutes looking at my book. After leaving my book there for weeks I eventually just gave up. Now I don't bother trying to win academics over.
My book is subtitled "A Feasibility study of possible Hollow Worlds" - and that is what it was. I wrote it because I was certain I could actually contribute something, and I truly hoped some academics or scientists would take an honest look at it. I thought if anyone would appreciate some original lateral thinking, it would be them! How wrong I was! The seismic diagram was the most important thing in it. I wanted scientists to compare my theoretical model against theirs and to match the seismic data to it. I was convinced it was superior to the complex solid earth model. It seemed to me to be a similar situation to the many concentric orbits which were used to explain the orbits of planets until it was discovered that orbits were really eliptical. Too bad there aren't any open-minded people in universities anywhere who would take a bit of their time to take a look at my Hollow Planets Seismic model and to compare its seismic predictions with those of their solid Earth models. I'll bet they would be very surprised by the results.
Sketches and Diagrams at :http://www.hollowplanets.com/journal/Seismic01.asp
A lot of info available if you want to know more
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misscpb
03-07-2007, 04:18 PM
Hello Everyone
I am fascinated by the hollow earth. Here is a great picture that I found on the internet. It has places that are openings where entrances are to inner earth. I found the pyramid of giza very interesting.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/misscpb/InnerEarth-1.jpg
I have also read the book below and thought it was great.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o99/misscpb/telos.jpg
http://www.diannerobbins.com/
It goes into detail about the inner sun, inner oceans, inner mountains, various other beings and planets, some information on Lemuria and Atlantis, who lives in inner earth and what they look like, physical bodies and other life forms, some history of why people went into inner earth as a result of chemical and biological warfare, changes in the earth, information on an inner earth city called Telos, how it is governed, buildings and technology, water supplies, food production and consumption, climate, weather and affecting thoughts, electromagnetic vehicles and underground passageways, underground city in Mount Shasta USA, polar openings, visiting the surface and lots more.
Take Care
fuknut
03-07-2007, 04:35 PM
I found the pyramid of giza very interesting.
Hi Misscpb
Apart from the drawing of inner earth, is there any other significance in documents/webs/etc regarding the pyramid of Giza as to be connected to inner earth ?:confused:
I also like the subject, but apart from the drawing did not yet find anything to connect the two.
:D
mada88
03-07-2007, 04:40 PM
Well it is a HOLOgram :D get it? holo-gram :p
hagbard_celine
04-07-2007, 04:07 AM
hollow earth is a cool idea...
I don't think there is literally a hollow earth with a sun,etc. But I can't say for certain there is not either. I guess it is a possibility.
I'd be more open to the idea that there are underground bases within the earth at the poles. but not that the earth is literally hollowed out.
All in all, I've probably seen more evidence to support the Hollow Earth model than the solid sphere one.
Most people who believe in the SS model do so simply through the "it just is" factor. SS is the one generally accepted in the current paradigm; it's the one you see in all the atlases.