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kilik
27-02-2009, 08:29 PM
Re-Dating the Sphinx of Egypt
In the 1990s a large body of evidence, including the evidence of water erosion determined the Sphinx to have been built in 10,500 BC, as opposed to the previously held 2500 BC dating for the Sphinx. Only rain water, and nothing else, can cause the deep, smooth, grooved channels, the so called vertical fissures which are basically small waterfalls, on it according to Geology. It couldn't have rained on the Sphinx enough to cause the rain weathering it has on it, unless it was built 12,000 years ago when the Giza plateau was not a dry desert like it is now, but when it was greener and wetter.
It was covered by the Emmy award winning documentary "The Mystery of the Sphinx", which was watched by 30 million people when it first aired on television on NBC
The data is very straightforward, but generally geologists never had bothered to study the Sphinx much. In 1990 a team led by Dr. Robert Schoch of Boston University analyzed the Sphinx and the finding were clear, the Sphinx bears rain weathering. This means it was before the end of the last ice age even.
Dr. Schoch's findings were presented at the annual meeting of the Geological Congress of America in 1990, where his finding were thought to be very interesting and over 280 geologists personally offered to help in any further study on the Sphinx. 1400 geologists agreed the data was correct and the Sphinx must be thousands of years older than archaeologists had thought.
From there it became huge news and appeared in headlines in newspapers around the world. It became a hugely contested issue. A major debate was scheduled to take place under the direction of the AAAS which is the publisher of the scientific journal Nature, one of the most prestigous in the world. Zahi Hawass the Director of Antiquities on of Egypt, and Mark Lehner the world's foremost expert on the Sphinx attended to argue against the Geological data and represent archaeology. In the end the rain erosion findings could not be disproven as it is a simple fact. Archaeologists cannot accept the implications of the data, but they have to accept the Sphinx bears rain erosion.
Geology beats Archaeology here as the harder science.
Here is the Emmy award winning documentary "The Mystery of the Sphinx", which was watched by 10s of millions of people when it first aired on television-
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7376496822014283582&q=mystery+of+the+sphinx&ei=eGUrSPekE5XCqAO_vvm1CQ
Some clips of note from the program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO9mFoDkj8o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiLErTapJlM&feature=related
Video on an Archaeology cover-up-
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5644481843574621580&q=atlantis
Redating the sphinx-
http://members.aol.com/davidpb4/sphinx1.html
A research team has discovered physical evidence that the Great Sphinx of Giza, Egypt, may date from 5000 and 7000 BCE and possibly earlier. In response, archaeologists have thrown mud at geologists, historians have been caught in the middle, and the Sphinx, having revealed one secret, challenges us to unravel even greater ones.
I noticed this site because of the first part, talking about the Re-dating of the Sphinx, but there's a lot of other suff on there too it looks like
http://www.violations.org.uk/index.htm
The American Association for the Advancement of Science scheduled a session to debate the issue at its annual general meeting in Chicago on 7th February 1992. Lehner attended along with geologist K. Lal Gauri of the University of Louisville, who had also studied the Sphinx for many years. West also attended and presented his arguments. (17)
Once again, the water erosion findings were endorsed even though Egyptologists themselves could not bring themselves to accept the implications of this endorsement.
The AAAS meeting broke up in words that, according to the New York Times "skated on the icy edge of scientific politeness
A writer for the AAAS magazine Science wrote that Schoch "hadn't convinced many archaeologists or geologists" of his findings.[26] In fact, Schoch had received offers of support from geologists after the October and February meetings. Even some archaeologists accepted his geological findings without conceding the conclusion to which they pointed"
also-
http://www.robertschoch.net/
http://www.jawest.net/
synergy777
27-02-2009, 09:47 PM
Age of Leo (10567 BCE - 8411 BCE)
could the sphinx, which i think could be anywhere from 8000 bc to 12500bc, be a monument to the age of leo. as the the pyramids line up to the orion constellation, eg the belt of orion lines up to the three pryamids at giza.
thus orion - ayran -arian (age of aries). also remember the pyramid at zawat al aryan
thus could these monuments be like graham hancok/bauval stated, they have alignments to contellations, they are earth based celestial markers.
the pyramids are temples/bases in my view. they are too big just to be used for burial/tomb. if you look at south america, the ziggauruts/pyramids are temples, why not the ones in egypt. add to this the earlier pyramids in nubia (modern day sudan)
the procession of the astrological ages, the scripture of the egypt eg horus/isis/osiris and seth. some say the pyramids have biblical connections, as they were built before jesus.
the sphinx is a lion/man, the sign of royalty/messianic figures.
marpat
27-02-2009, 09:47 PM
Weird that archeologists should claim that their work is based on evidence and facts yet when some facts turn up that would change their views they fight against them.
synergy777
27-02-2009, 09:51 PM
http://www.sacredsites.com/africa/egypt/sphinx.html
Additional evidence for the great age of the Sphinx may perhaps be indicated by the astronomical significance of its shape, being that of a lion. Roughly every two thousand years (2160 to be exact), and because of the precession of the equinoxes, the sun on the vernal equinox rises against the stellar background of a different constellation. For the past two thousand years that constellation has been Pisces the Fish, symbol of the Christian age. Prior to the age of Pisces it was the age of Aries the Ram, and before that it was the age of Taurus the Bull. It is interesting to note that during the first and second millennia BC, approximately the Age of Aries, ram-oriented iconography was common in Dynastic Egypt, while during the Age of Taurus the Bull-cult arose in Minoan Crete. Perhaps the builders of the Sphinx likewise used astrological symbolism in designing their monumental sculpture. The geological findings discussed above indicate that the Sphinx seems to have been sculpted sometime before 10,000 BC, and this period coincides with the Age of Leo the Lion, which lasted from 10,970 to 8810 BC.
Further support for this vast age of the sphinx comes from a surprising sky-ground correlation proven by sophisticated computer programs such as Skyglobe 3.6. These computer programs are able to generate precise pictures of any portion of the night sky as seen from different places on earth at any time in the distant past or future.
Graham Hancock explains in Heaven’s Mirror that, “computer simulations show that in 10,500 BC the constellation of Leo housed the sun on the spring equinox - i.e. an hour before dawn in that epoch Leo would have reclined due east along the horizon in the place where the sun would soon rise. This means that the lion-bodied Sphinx, with its due-east orientation, would have gazed directly on that morning at the one constellation in the sky that might reasonably be regarded as its own celestial counterpart.”
The foregoing discussion means that the monumental sculpture of the Sphinx may have existed at a time when (according to prevailing archaeological theory) there were no civilizations on earth and humans had not yet evolved beyond hunter-gatherer lifestyles. This matter is so radical that scholarly reticence in acknowledging it is understandable. If the Sphinx is indeed this old then contemporary assumptions regarding the development of civilization must be entirely reworked and the mystifying question of Plato's Atlantis should be given very serious consideration.
Readers interested in this matter, certainly as fascinating as the mystery of the Great Pyramid, are encouraged to consult the following books:
The Traveler's Key to Ancient Egypt; by John Anthony West
Serpent in the Sky; by John Anthony West
Fingerprints of the Gods; by Graham Hancock
Heaven's Mirror; by Graham Hancock
The Message of the Sphinx; by Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock
Voyages of the Pyramid Builders; by Robert Schoch
Gods of Eden; by Andrew Collins
synergy777
27-02-2009, 09:59 PM
the roots of our epoch, eg mainstream history is lying.
the truth about egypt is hidden and known by the elite. egypt is the key to understanding our epoch.
i do not believe in the mainstream dumbed down history, eg us humans were brought to earth via panspermia, eg meteorites that carried bactria fell to earth, the bacteria grew into single cell organism/ameobas, that then evolved into aquatic based lifeforms, which came out of the sea, onto the savanahs of africa and somehow evolved into primates/apes, then the apes evolved into proto-humans, then into neaderthals/home sapiens, its utter rubbish.
even crick, who discovered dna/helix etc, said the modern view of evolution was rubbish. he said the scientific view of panspermia, had too many vairables. he equated it to a hurricane moving through a junkyard, and the end product being a jumbo jet.
if think about how complex our bodies are, the perfection of the chemical/biological processes, the offical view, is utter hogwash
we were seeeded/designed/engineered/cloned.
i started a thread about this earlier:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=832241&posted=1#post832241
september 11 in the georgian(western) calendar is the beginning of the new year in the coptic/egyptain calandar. thats why they chose the date, the elite are followers of egyptain/hermetic occult religions. remember the luciferic nature of the elite, also notice how the occult leaders eg crowley all revere egypt/india.
rome, jerusalem, egypt and india hold the keys.
marpat
28-02-2009, 10:03 PM
the roots of our epoch, eg mainstream history is lying.
the truth about egypt is hidden and known by the elite. egypt is the key to understanding our epoch.
i do not believe in the mainstream dumbed down history, eg us humans were brought to earth via panspermia, eg meteorites that carried bactria fell to earth, the bacteria grew into single cell organism/ameobas, that then evolved into aquatic based lifeforms, which came out of the sea, onto the savanahs of africa and somehow evolved into primates/apes, then the apes evolved into proto-humans, then into neaderthals/home sapiens, its utter rubbish.
even crick, who discovered dna/helix etc, said the modern view of evolution was rubbish. he said the scientific view of panspermia, had too many vairables. he equated it to a hurricane moving through a junkyard, and the end product being a jumbo jet.
if think about how complex our bodies are, the perfection of the chemical/biological processes, the offical view, is utter hogwash
we were seeeded/designed/engineered/cloned.
i started a thread about this earlier:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=832241&posted=1#post832241
september 11 in the georgian(western) calendar is the beginning of the new year in the coptic/egyptain calandar. thats why they chose the date, the elite are followers of egyptain/hermetic occult religions. remember the luciferic nature of the elite, also notice how the occult leaders eg crowley all revere egypt/india.
rome, jerusalem, egypt and india hold the keys.
But Crowley also admired Islam and Buddhism as well as other systems. David Icke is also happy to use the Hindu chakra system even though it is not some universal system that is common to all people.
Why would the people in power prefer some ancient religions? you also imply that Egyptian and Indian religion as negative. Why is that?
If Egypt is the key to the epoch then why was it allowed to be destroyed, unlike Hinduism, which still flourishes? I would have thought that if anything was going to hold key secrets it would be in India purely because they have an unbroken lineage.
One thing that does interest my though is the Cayce work regarding the sphinx and the hidden hall of records. His work seems to imply that only when the time is right that such a hall will be found.
endlessvista
28-02-2009, 10:04 PM
Age of Leo (10567 BCE - 8411 BCE)
could the sphinx, which i think could be anywhere from 8000 bc to 12500bc, be a monument to the age of leo. as the the pyramids line up to the orion constellation, eg the belt of orion lines up to the three pryamids at giza.
thus orion - ayran -arian (age of aries). also remember the pyramid at zawat al aryan
thus could these monuments be like graham hancok/bauval stated, they have alignments to contellations, they are earth based celestial markers.
the pyramids are temples/bases in my view. they are too big just to be used for burial/tomb. if you look at south america, the ziggauruts/pyramids are temples, why not the ones in egypt. add to this the earlier pyramids in nubia (modern day sudan)
the procession of the astrological ages, the scripture of the egypt eg horus/isis/osiris and seth. some say the pyramids have biblical connections, as they were built before jesus.
the sphinx is a lion/man, the sign of royalty/messianic figures.
Good post - you are a goldmine of interesting stuff sir.
kilik
28-02-2009, 10:19 PM
I could make a thread specifically about the Hall of Records that is below the Sphinx in the future.
marpat
28-02-2009, 10:21 PM
I could make a thread specifically about the Hall of Records that is below the Sphinx in the future.
But is it below it? I was under the impression that it was near it to the north west.
kilik
01-03-2009, 06:27 AM
You might be right about that....i know there's a whole network of tunnels, and chambers under the Giza plateau.
I'll have to look into the specifics, I think there is a chamber under one of the paws, and then a tunnel that leads to an underground chamber that is between the Sphinx and Great Pyramid. Then there's also the so called Tomb of Osiris which is 100 feet undeground down below the rear end of the Sphinx.
marpat
01-03-2009, 09:40 AM
You might be right about that....i know there's a whole network of tunnels, and chambers under the Giza plateau.
I'll have to look into the specifics, I think there is a chamber under one of the paws, and then a tunnel that leads to an underground chamber that is between the Sphinx and Great Pyramid. Then there's also the so called Tomb of Osiris which is 100 feet undeground down below the rear end of the Sphinx.
The Osirian chamber has been on TV. Maybe that was the hall but the contents could have been removed!!
blondina1
01-03-2009, 11:35 AM
Good post - you are a goldmine of interesting stuff sir.
Lol I second that ;)
jesta_g
01-03-2009, 11:45 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Flower-of-Life-small.svg/304px-Flower-of-Life-small.svg.png
http://www.2dcode-r-past.com/Great_Pyramid/gizaplat_art.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/morph225/images/18thsphinxa.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/morph225/images/w1.jpg
http://www.crystalinks.com/goldenmeanpyr.gif
http://www.flem-ath.com/images/thoth_temple.png
http://www.crystalinks.com/sphinx3.gif
http://www.crystalinks.com/sphinxlayout.gif
http://www.crystalinks.com/sphinxarialview.gif
http://www.crystalinks.com/sphinxwestelevation.gif
marpat
01-03-2009, 11:53 AM
Where did you get all that stuff?
I am looking at the geometric lines, etc but it seems that it is more a case of superimposing shapes onto the diagram rather than having any relative value. Some of the lines dont actually go to a special point or anything. Personally I would have thought that if such geometry was meant to be shown that there would be some form of marker present, a niche or pillar or something. For example, the legs of the pentagrams go outside of the building whereas if you remove those legs then the lines fit neatly within the building. It is as if somebody wants to give the impression that there are pentagrams there when there maybe isnt. Also, I would have thought an important line would be between the centre top and centre bottom, what look like entrances, but there is nothing there. Interesting all the same.
belladonna
01-03-2009, 05:10 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Flower-of-Life-small.svg/304px-Flower-of-Life-small.svg.png
http://www.2dcode-r-past.com/Great_Pyramid/gizaplat_art.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/morph225/images/18thsphinxa.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/morph225/images/w1.jpg
http://www.crystalinks.com/goldenmeanpyr.gif
http://www.flem-ath.com/images/thoth_temple.png
http://www.crystalinks.com/sphinx3.gif
http://www.crystalinks.com/sphinxlayout.gif
http://www.crystalinks.com/sphinxarialview.gif
http://www.crystalinks.com/sphinxwestelevation.gif
Yes, absolutely...........where did you get that from? I would love to see more, if indeed there is any. Thanks for sharing it.
tehuti
01-03-2009, 10:17 PM
THe Sphinx is from the fourth dynasty of egypt 2500bc. The point about water erosion is because the pyramid itself sits on top of a possibly now dormant geyser.
All those so called "air shafts" granite lined, with "copper" "handles" are actually water shafts.
Water? eh, yes that's right, water shafts which cascaded the water down the sides of the pyramid, over the sphinx and forming pools round about it.
Leaving tell, tale uneven erosion marks, good Giza plateau pictures will show trees and vegetation, also telling of the high water table.
JOHN CADMAN'S RESEARCH
The Subterranean Chamber Water Pump and Pulse Generator
by John Cadman
(updated September 2002)
IS THE GREAT PYRAMID A PUMP?(water pump)
http://www.gizapyramid.com/cadman4.htm
angela brown488
02-03-2009, 08:32 AM
Hey guys,
I agree with Kilik that there's a whole network of tunnels, and chambers under the Giza plateau nea the Sphinx…….
And I know that Many legends and myths exist about the Sphinx. And it represents the guard of the eastern and western parts of the world or it might be representing the King himself. It was covered with a layer of stucco or limestone and then painted.
http://egyptopia.com/Photo+Gallery+for+Sphinx_50_284_11495_1_0_en.html
And I learnt that The nose of the Sphinx was not deliberately broken, as has been usually believed, but the break was due to the long course of time it has till now survived. Nothing except the statue's neck was seen since it was wholly covered with sand during the Eighteenth Dynasty. Later, the sand was cleared up in the reign of Thutmosis IV. Till the end of the Nineteenth century, the Sphinx was covered with sand, and was exposed to all natural air conditions.:)
http://egyptopia.com/Guide+and+Information+for+Sphinx_30_100_41_11495_e n.html
kilik
04-03-2009, 12:21 AM
THe Sphinx is from the fourth dynasty of egypt 2500bc. The point about water erosion is because the pyramid itself sits on top of a possibly now dormant geyser.
All those so called "air shafts" granite lined, with "copper" "handles" are actually water shafts.
Water? eh, yes that's right, water shafts which cascaded the water down the sides of the pyramid, over the sphinx and forming pools round about it.
Leaving tell, tale uneven erosion marks, good Giza plateau pictures will show trees and vegetation, also telling of the high water table.
No, the "sub surface" weathering arguments were all refuted by Dr. Schoch
It has also been suggested that the Sphinx has been heavily weathered by the action of subsurface ground water being sucked up into the pores of the rock by capillary action (Lawton and Ogilvie-Herald, page 316). There are a couple of problems with this hypothesis. First, I have yet to see any evidence that this is actually occurring to any significant extent today, much less in the past. If it is a significant factor in producing the weathering profile seen on the Sphinx and in the Sphinx enclosure, then it should also produce the same features (and to the same degree) on rock-cut structures carved from the same limestones and at the same elevation or lower found immediately to the south of the Sphinx enclosure. Yet such "capillary weathering" is not evident there. Second, such "capillary weathering," if it does indeed occur to any significant degree in the present day, may well be the result of rising water tables due to sewerage from the adjacent village that has been progressively encroaching on the Giza Plateau.
tehuti
04-03-2009, 04:33 PM
No, the "sub surface" weathering arguments were all refuted by Dr. Schoch
It has nothing to do capillary action. It's geyser action if you like, for the sake of time google "natural geysers" and try to understand their action and the fact that the so-called air shafts 2 in both the king and queens chambers are actually water shafts.
nothing to do with sub-surface weathering in any way
As an addendum i've also come across this post on the general section
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56222
You don't have to read all of it because it's not entirely accurate, it affirms water erosion though from the nile
kilik
05-03-2009, 04:00 AM
It has nothing to do capillary action. It's geyser action if you like, for the sake of time google "natural geysers" and try to understand their action and the fact that the so-called air shafts 2 in both the king and queens chambers are actually water shafts.
We're talking about the Sphinx here, not the Pyramids. The Sphinx bears rain erosion, not weathering caused by geysers.
tehuti
05-03-2009, 01:35 PM
We're talking about the Sphinx here, not the Pyramids. The Sphinx bears rain erosion, not weathering caused by geysers.
If you've seen the location of the sphinx then you would know that it is right in the shadow of the pyramid.
Now if the pyramid is a "fountain" spouting off water sky high then that water will fall back down to earth and flow over the sphinx.
No "ancient" rain needed
In any event, the sphinx bears WATER erosion not RAIN erosion.
If i had someone with a hosepipe on the sphinx for some time, you would get exactly the same effect.
Understand that principle.
However because of these erosion patterns the most obvious explanation had to be the rain, totally missing the fact that the sphinx is a guardian of the pyramid, right in it's shadow.
* The Sphinx is sitting in a deep hole in the ground. Why is that? Why is it not sitting somewhere high up so that it can show off?
* There is a ruined temple right in front of the Sphinx, with a wall practically up against its nose, and no door in that wall. Why obstruct the view of the Sphinx from the front like that? And if the temple was for worshipping the Sphinx, why is there no access from the temple to the Sphinx, so that you can’t even get to it?
* The pit in which the Sphinx sits seems to be deeply eroded, as if by flows of water. What caused all that? It looks as if water has poured down the sides. On the other hand, there are no such vertical erosion patterns on the Sphinx itself, which instead has clear horizontal erosion patterns. How can these two different patterns at right angles to each other be reconciled? And what could possibly have caused either of them?
(Vertical erosion = RAIN!!!!---I'm sure you know where rain come from, the direction)
I do believe there is water erosion at the Sphinx site, but I do not believe it had anything to do with ‘ancient rain’, nor do I believe there was anything there to be eroded at the time any ‘ancient rain’ fell.
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/What_was_the_Sphinx.html
evster2012
11-03-2009, 12:09 PM
It'll be all but impossible to find out anything so long as Zahi Hawass keeps ramming his version of history down the media's throats. :rolleyes:
kilik
15-03-2009, 05:53 PM
* The pit in which the Sphinx sits seems to be deeply eroded, as if by flows of water. What caused all that? It looks as if water has poured down the sides. On the other hand, there are no such vertical erosion patterns on the Sphinx itself, which instead has clear horizontal erosion patterns. How can these two different patterns at right angles to each other be reconciled? And what could possibly have caused either of them?
(Vertical erosion = RAIN!!!!---I'm sure you know where rain come from, the direction)
I do believe there is water erosion at the Sphinx site, but I do not believe it had anything to do with ‘ancient rain’, nor do I believe there was anything there to be eroded at the time any ‘ancient rain’ fell.
The Horizontal weathering on the Sphinx is wind and sand erosion, whereas the vertical weathering and the vertical fissures are from rain. Geologists and professionals know the difference between the 2.
cruise4
16-03-2009, 03:39 AM
"Zahi Hawass the Director of Antiquities on of Egypt, and Mark Lehner the world's foremost expert on the Sphinx attended to argue against the Geological data and represent archaeology."
Yes... gatekeepers.
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/03mar/RICR-090312.php
I listened to this interview where Adrian Gilbert goes on about the robot that crawled up that shaft to find a door. The whole thing was squashed and held up for another 20 years. The robot was confiscated by the Egyptians. It's a total joke of suppression and inaction.
According to two seperate sources, (if you regard clairvoyants and Remote viewers as 'sources'), suggest there's two rooms after the door and various stuff inside including something guarded by falcons and something like a wine rack. OK, not the sphinx I know :D
tehuti
16-03-2009, 01:50 PM
The Horizontal weathering on the Sphinx is wind and sand erosion, whereas the vertical weathering and the vertical fissures are from rain. Geologists and professionals know the difference between the 2.
I hope Geologists and professionals do know the difference between them, but unfortunately yourself does not seem to be very reflective.
So let me try to help you out, the sphinx sits in a DEEP PIT, wind/sand erosion is negligible, apart from ABRASION wear.
So here is a link to some actual sphinx pictures, so you also can get to know the difference.
http://solomonseries.com/photogallery/photo_gallery.php?gallery_id=25
marpat
16-03-2009, 02:00 PM
If you've seen the location of the sphinx then you would know that it is right in the shadow of the pyramid.
Now if the pyramid is a "fountain" spouting off water sky high then that water will fall back down to earth and flow over the sphinx.
No "ancient" rain needed
In any event, the sphinx bears WATER erosion not RAIN erosion.
If i had someone with a hosepipe on the sphinx for some time, you would get exactly the same effect.
Understand that principle.
However because of these erosion patterns the most obvious explanation had to be the rain, totally missing the fact that the sphinx is a guardian of the pyramid, right in it's shadow.
* The Sphinx is sitting in a deep hole in the ground. Why is that? Why is it not sitting somewhere high up so that it can show off?
* There is a ruined temple right in front of the Sphinx, with a wall practically up against its nose, and no door in that wall. Why obstruct the view of the Sphinx from the front like that? And if the temple was for worshipping the Sphinx, why is there no access from the temple to the Sphinx, so that you can’t even get to it?
* The pit in which the Sphinx sits seems to be deeply eroded, as if by flows of water. What caused all that? It looks as if water has poured down the sides. On the other hand, there are no such vertical erosion patterns on the Sphinx itself, which instead has clear horizontal erosion patterns. How can these two different patterns at right angles to each other be reconciled? And what could possibly have caused either of them?
(Vertical erosion = RAIN!!!!---I'm sure you know where rain come from, the direction)
I do believe there is water erosion at the Sphinx site, but I do not believe it had anything to do with ‘ancient rain’, nor do I believe there was anything there to be eroded at the time any ‘ancient rain’ fell.
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/What_was_the_Sphinx.html
Its not that close, look on google earth
tehuti
16-03-2009, 08:12 PM
Its not that close, look on google earth
In your opinion, how close is close?
white horse
16-03-2009, 10:52 PM
Weird that archeologists should claim that their work is based on evidence and facts yet when some facts turn up that would change their views they fight against them.
That is true. And of all historical disciplines Egyptologists are the most entrenched.
opulentview
24-03-2009, 12:53 AM
"...The final fact is that the Sphinx was carved out of the rock at the exact centre of the earth to commemorate 'that sacred place of creation' or beginning which goes back to the domain of Sut, and to 'the days of the master of Kher'" (Massey 338).
"...As the Sphinx appears to us as it has a human face. But the god Tum-Harmachis was lion of the solar-glory, and his bringer-forth as Sekhet was the lioness. The Perfect type was dual as the lion and the lioness combined, onlu the forepart has been rendered anthropomorphically in the likeness of the Pharoah was the lion-ruler at the time The great Sphinx as a keeper of these secrets was couched in mountianous repose upon the horizon in the eastern equinox, when the gate of "fair exit" was in the lion -sign and the fate of "fair-entrance" was in Aqaurius, the water-sign that is figured over the abyss of source on the celestial globe. The Sphinx then is a figure of the double horizon and the duality of Har-Makhu when the place of conjunction was at the point of precession in the lion-sign. And if, as is the Egyptian way, the fact was registered forthwith we may date the Sphinx as a monument which was reared by these great builders and thinkers who lived so largely out of themselves some thirteen thousand years ago"
(Massey 339).
There is much more in the book about water and hollow earth, there may be a tie in symbolically and literally regarding the water..........
Massey, Gerald. Ancient Egypt the Light of the World.
"The Sphinx cut out of the solid rock, and partly built up of masonry, was made by Amenhemhat 3. A mastobe, which formerly stood on the spot, was destroyed to make room for it. It represented the king in the form of a human headed lion, lying down with the statue of a god, Harmachis or Hepra, before its breast. In time, the desert sand covered the body. Thothmes 4 was the first to dig it out, and he erected a stone celebrating the event. Even in the inscription on the statue, the confusion between the sphinx itself and the divine statue before it, appears............in Arab times, the sphinx was used as a target by Mamelukes, and mutilated by fanatics" (Bulletin By New York (State). Library Extension Division, University of the State of New York University Extension Committee, New York University Extension Committee, 1899. Pg 360)
"....but proof there is none. To the whole discussion two facts -- no dated sphinxes earlier than the twelth dynasty can be proved, and the Egyptian inscriptions of the Old Kingdom do not contain the sphinx-heiroglyphic sign at all" (The universal cyclopaedia 1900. Pg 59)
".....Robert Bauvel and Graham Hancock.......show that the Sphinx, the three Great Pyramids, the causeways leading to the pyramids, and other monuments at the Giza necropolis form a huge astronomical diagram that maps the heavens as they were at the time when the vernal equinox was about to enter the constellation of Leo--that is around 10,730 B.C.E.......Bauvel and Hancock find that onthis date the star Zeta Orionis, and the Orion constellation as a whole would have moved to its most extreme southward declination as a result of polar precession. Moreover, they find in this epoch Orion's three belt stars and the Leo constellation would have lain along the predawn horizon at the time of the vernal equinox. Thus the constellations associated with the Giza Sphinx and the Great Pyramid were both heliacally rising on this vernal equinox date! In that ancient time Leo was oriented with its crouched body extending parallel to the horizon and looking much like the Giza Sphinx, which would have cast its gaze in that easterly direction" (LaViolette 107,108)
Laviolette, Paul A. Earth under fire.
"It soon became clear the Schoch that the Sphinx had indeed been weathered by rain for thousands of years before the desert claimed the region. Wind erosion cuts sharp, straight patterns into sediment layers. But the Sphinx exhibits the rounded, furrowed contours typical of water erosion. This meant that the monument must have been constructed during a long rainy period sometime before 5000 B.C. and very possibly much earlier. Since this predates the appearance of Egyptian civilization by thousands of years, the question at once raised: who carved the Great Sphinx? (Flem-Ath 58).
Flem-Ath, Rand. When the Sky Fell
"the extensive weathering on the Sphinx, apparently caused by rainfall, is not found on the pyramids or any other monuments. Excessive wear patterns on the Sphinx, especially in the rear where gouges are up to 12 feet (3.6 m) deep, have been conclusively determined by geologists to be created by water. It is calculated that it would take at 1,000 years of torrential rain to create this much water erosion, yet the Sahara Desert is a mere 9,000 years old. Archaeologists and Egyptologists still argue vehemently that neither the Sphinx nor the Great Pyramids could possibly be anywhere over 5,000 years old. Or could they? Geology and archaeology now stand in direct contradiction. Siding with the geologists we can re-date the Sphinx to be at least 7,000 to 9,000 years old, and therefore predating the ancient Egyptians. If the geologists are correct an unknown people who had already attained an extremely high level of civilixation and occupied the Niley Calley many centuries before the first pharaoh assumed power and carved the colossus on the Giza Plateau (Olsen 28).
Olsen, Brad. Sacred Places Around the World