The Controlled Demolition of the David Icke Forum

[dondaz]

Well, I am absolutely dumbfounded! Something definately isn't right with this forum.

I was never on the old Icke forum but from what I have heard it turned nasty and was shut down.

I can see a right load of shite going on right now with drama's and dis-infoers and threads being moved and people being banned and threads being closed down.

This is what the Illuminati want. Devide and Rule. Don't people understand this?

Any threads regarding moderation or questions to david icke aren't allowed.

I must say sean, I am a bit disapointed and suprised that you would come out with a statement such as this.

Are these David Ickes' Rules?

I have read many of your posts sean and respect what you are doing here, but on this occaission my friend I believe you are stiring a wasps nest by closing threads and limitimg people's views on what they can and cannot talk about.

This is bound to get a big reaction from members!

We are all infomation aware people here and to clamp down on us without a just explanation reminds me of another system of control run by parliment.

If I wanted to meet with David Icke I actually don't think I would have a problem reaching him, but this is me. Why should people not be allowed to talk about this in a thread?

When things are kept behind closed doors it is time to go back to the drawing board.

We all know what hard-line stances can do to our freedoms!

Is this the begining of The Controlled Demolition of the David Icke Forum?

I hope not!

Going For It and Keep Going For It by Victor Kiam will help give anyone the knowledge they need to meet anyone they wish! I read them both back in the 80s and are still great reference tools I use.

Just a few thoughts.

Best

Darren

[d_young]

well im not speaking for sean... but i will say this.

"Any questions to David Icke isn't allowed", thats purely because David himself isnt frequenting these pages, so therefor they are pointless.

As for the moderation bit, there has been lots of arguments as to the intention behind the moderators actions which leads to arguments in the threads, which, again, are pointless. The moderators have a lot to moderate and they have their reason to do whatever they are doing. And to have an open debate about it isnt constructive, it will be dealt with privately via pm's. Quite simply a lot of people are posting bs and inflammatory things, which isnt information that needs to be on these forums. This place is rather nice and lenient compared to other boards, its just very unfortunate that some people cant have civilised and constructive conversations without abiding to the forum rules.

Sincerely,
Daniel Young

[richmick]

Well, I am absolutely dumbfounded! Something definately isn't right with this forum.

I was never on the old Icke forum but from what I have heard it turned nasty and was shut down.

I can see a right load of shite going on right now with drama's and dis-infoers and threads being moved and people being banned and threads being closed down.

This is what the Illuminati want. Devide and Rule. Don't people understand this?



I must say sean, I am a bit disapointed and suprised that you would come out with a statement such as this.

Are these David Ickes' Rules?

I have read many of your posts sean and respect what you are doing here, but on this occaission my friend I believe you are stiring a wasps nest by closing threads and limitimg people's views on what they can and cannot talk about.

This is bound to get a big reaction from members!

We are all infomation aware people here and to clamp down on us without a just explanation reminds me of another system of control run by parliment.

If I wanted to meet with David Icke I actually don't think I would have a problem reaching him, but this is me. Why should people not be allowed to talk about this in a thread?

When things are kept behind closed doors it is time to go back to the drawing board.

We all know what hard-line stances can do to our freedoms!

Is this the begining of The Controlled Demolition of the David Icke Forum?

I hope not!

Going For It and Keep Going For It by Victor Kiam will help give anyone the knowledge they need to meet anyone they wish! I read them both back in the 80s and are still great reference tools I use.

Just a few thoughts.

Best

Darren

Good post. That is all i'll say. I dont want your thread closed:)

[anoninnyc]

dondaz, next time you quote please make it so i can go back to the original thread to see context. from my understanding anything goes on the rant forum. perhaps all of these posts about mods just turn into bashing and negativity and don't really belong on the main forums. and the no questions to david icke part makes perfect sense to me.

[mahabaratara]

The way the old place was shut down was retarded...Still is...

Simple as...

[peter19]

yeah there seems alot of closed threads when iv just come on now. :confused:

the way i see it is if i want to post a question about the mods and david icke, i will, and if i get banned for it then it just shows what a joke this forum has turned into. yeah i agree people should be slightly watched so the place doesnt go down hill, but telling people whats what and not to ask questions of the mods seem abit odd. why not ask questions of the mods?. can mods ban people?. i dont mean to get your thread close btw and hope it doesnt happen.

its all a little odd.

david icke says himself "believe what you will, you are free to take or leave my info" and i admire the man himself for the stand he is doing. but on this forum why cant you even question things or him if you want too, when he even says its only info, believe it or not.

[sean]

It's as simple as this:

David isn't participating on this forum. People asking questions directly to him, complaining and asking why he isn't here and blaming us for him not being here is absolutely pointless. It's a waste of time and it's not going to change. This is his decision, and it's one i understand. I've put it in the guidelines, requesting politely that people do not start threads with questions to David Icke.

When we moderate this place a lot of things take place in private, and dialogue happens between moderators and members of the forum. Threads about why or why not someone is banned are also pointless and leave us in a position where we cannot answer. This leads to accusations and general baseless attacks on the moderators. This is why in the guidelines it says to PM a moderator and to not start threads about our moderation. That's not going to change either.

I'm really sorry about that, but we have this in place for a reason. Talk about what you like. But any concerns or questions regarding moderation, PM me or another moderator.

If you don't agree with this, or want to generally attack our decision of how we chose to moderate the forum bearing in mind what i've said above, i suggest doing it elsewhere. It's not fair to people who want to use this forum as it's intended.

You can question and talk about david's work. Disagree or agree with him. You can debate with a moderator as much as you would anybody else. But please don't start pointless threads. At the end of the day, the only purpose they serve is as a soapbox for the poster to get his or her voice heard regardless of the facts or the guidelines we have in place. This isn't that type of forum.

[dondaz]

sean you closed my thread on me without giving me the chance to answer.

I started that thread and it was a good thread and you messed it up. You are wrong sean and I am deeply saddened and hurt by you.

Show me where I have done something wrong for it to be closed?

Shame on you sean. I want that thread back open.

This was gonna be my last post in that thread.

Let me make this clear to all who read this. I haven't got a problem with moderators, I do understand the job they have to do.

This isn't about mod bashing, it's about freedom of information and the uses, abuses and sharing of that information.

I have only ever bashed one member of this forum and that was Fintan Dunne (see Real 911 Rats Gallery). I think anyone who is aware of this guy will know he is without a doubt a NWO shill.

He was spreading disinfo around through his various websites and even joined this site to give me some bashing back.

So what I did was publicly expose him to everyone on this site. In my own way of course. He also got flak from other members who were on to him, and rightly so.

Now, to my knowledge, Fintan Dunne has never been back to this forum to spread his deciet and lies. He knows that we know he is a bad one. He knows we wont take his crap.

The moderators have a lot to moderate and they have their reason to do whatever they are doing. And to have an open debate about it isnt constructive, it will be dealt with privately via pm's.

To have an open debate and shame the trouble makers in public is, in my oppinion, the best thing anyone can do to stop the shite in its tracks. And it also sets a good example to other prats whos' agenda is to screw this forum up.

I also know a quiet word (pm) in someones ear can often achieve positive results and calm a situation down. So yes, this method does have its uses at times, particularly when things first kick off.

However, I believe if a person has been so shamelessly disrespectful, whether through dis-info spreading or slagging people off, to a point where moderators have to ban them, I propose that mods state their case in a thread for all to see and send the word out to these prats that we will not take this, then I feel this would create better PR with members and therefore keep our trust in the moderation process.

How about a thread for Named and Shamed members.

I love this forum and value it greatly. It is definately helping me to grow into a better person and has taken me into areas I'd never dreamed of before.

I hope there's something useful in this thread for people.

My love to you all.

Darren


You have wrecked my night, thanks sean.

[richmick]

sean you closed my thread on me without giving me the chance to answer.

I started that thread and it was a good thread and you messed it up. You are wrong sean and I am deeply saddened and hurt by you.

Show me where I have done something wrong for it to be closed?

Shame on you sean. I want that thread back open.

This was gonna be my last post in that thread.


You have wrecked my night, thanks sean.


A named and shamed forum. Wow, this is getting silly is'nt it. I think you have picked that up from the media, were by they are naming and shaming youths who create havoc in their local areas. It is more NWO smoke and mirrors. Next thing you know it will be, tax avaders, people who put extensions on their property without telling the council, oh yeah and those against the state ie. conspiracy theorists.

Who decides who these people are, the elected few no doubt. Maybe the group hug brigade. It is so silly, really, to use what ultimately will be a witch hunt, to name and shame (NWO tactics) people who could be perfectly innocent, just expressing their opinion.

God help the christians amongst us, or those who speak out because they feel unsettled about certain developments that take place here.

This is becoming tiresome.

If Harris re-opens THE FORUM, i think all our problems will be resolved. Then we will have more choice...:);)

[sean]

Well there you go. In the name of fairness i've moved these posts in this now closed thread so that you have made the point you wished to.

This thread remains closed for the reasons above. New threads regarding David icke's participation on this forum, or our decisions behind banning certain individuals will most likely be closed. Please try and respect our guidelines.