Jimmy Savile ... Again

[hirschfelder]

I've posted quite a bit about Jimmy Savile on various threads and here he is again, in another dubious situation, this time introducing the Yorkshire Ripper to Frank Bruno, as you do

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3576/snn2501asutcliffe740914.jpg

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2270180.ece

Check out Bruno's handshake. I know fuck all about Masons, but the grip seems pretty stylized to me, perhaps someone who knows more (not an actual Mason, as they're inherently dishonest and untrustworthy, no offence :)) could shed some light?

I know it all seems trivial and far-fetched, it's just a simple DJ and boxer meeting a serial killer for some reason, and I'm a world a way from proving any case against Savile, but there's so much about the bloke that doesn't add up and this "story" is just so bizarre

A few things about Jimmy Savile, a simple working-class DJ from a Leeds mining family

- He has both a Royal and Papal knighthood (Order of St. Gregory the Great)

- He is a Knights Hospitaller (also known as the Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem of Rhodes and of Malta, Order of St. John, Knights of Malta, and Chevaliers of Malta)

- He's an "Esteemed Friend of Israel", according to his Wiki page, whatever that is

- In a June 08 interview with Esquire, Savile boasted of his closeness with Royalty and Prime Ministers

- How he gave marriage guidance to Prince Andrew at the behest of the Duke of Edinburgh

- How Princess Diana described him as "a mentor to Charles"

- How he addressed the Israeli cabinet, the Knesset, and told them that they'd "forgotten how to be Jewish"

- He shares his very unusual surname with West Yorkshire's most elite family. Leeds' coat-of-arms, which depicts three owls, is based on the Savile family crest and Sir William Savile, a royalist, was amazingly freed by Sir Thomas Fairfax (a high-ranking Mason) after losing a battle in Leeds during the Civil War. Officially, Jimmy is no relation

- There is an injunction in place against News International prohibiting them from publishing photos of Jimmy at Haute de la Garenne, the child abuse scandal home in Jersey

- In his own words, Jimmy is, "the éminence grise: the grey, shadowy figure in the background.”

And that's all without getting into the unsavoury rumours about his sex life

Perhaps I'm making something out of nothing but, as I say, his story just doesn't add up

More on Savile, once described as "the most jewish non-jew you could ever meet":
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18681&highlight=savile&page=3
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3868024.ece

[grandsecretary]

[QUOTE=hirschfelder;827492]I've posted quite a bit about Jimmy Savile on various threads and here he is again, in another dubious situation, this time introducing the Yorkshire Ripper to Frank Bruno, as you do

Not the Yorkshire Ripper at all. The Yorkshire Ripper is in a secure unit at Broadmoor Mental Hospital in Berkshire.

Why are you having a go at a successful but relatively minor TV personality who spends most of his time raising money for charity? As far as I know, he is a much loved person up here in Yorkshire, and any scandal would be very well known. I have never heard a word against him.

He is definitely not a Freemason. I would know. And I do not approve of your anti-Semitic remarks.

[fnulnu]

Not the Yorkshire Ripper at all. The Yorkshire Ripper is in a secure unit at Broadmoor Mental Hospital in Berkshire.


Take a look at The Sun article.It is Peter Sutcliffe,according to them.

[amandaooo]

I am not going to google it because it is not worthy - but did sutcliffe not get blinded by a screwdriver and died? Poetic justice in my opinion, if indeed it is the case.

The great old Sir Jimmy Saville was one of the guests at Haute le Garenne ? I may be wrong - he was also affiliated with Jonathan King too, I believe.

I have something on SJS that I cannot say for legal reasons- that involves sex. It is not illegal however - just makes you want to go ewww!!!

[dhama_initiative]

Remember how he scared Louis Theroux by finding out his address? " I have contacts everywhere"

[talulah]

This man very sinister character.he once said he hated children.Thats weird considering he done "Jimll fix it".he was thought to be a child abuser too.

[dreamweaver]

I am not going to google it because it is not worthy - but did sutcliffe not get blinded by a screwdriver and died?
As far as I'm aware, he's still alive - but was certainly blinded in one eye quite a few years ago by a fellow inmate. He's been attacked a few times inside. There is talk of Sutcliffe being up for a parole board review soon.

I've heard some very lurid tales about Jimmy Savile in his Top of the Pops years, but I'm not going to repeat them on a public forum as I have no evidence to back them up.

[hirschfelder]

Not the Yorkshire Ripper at all. The Yorkshire Ripper is in a secure unit at Broadmoor Mental Hospital in Berkshire.

Why are you having a go at a successful but relatively minor TV personality who spends most of his time raising money for charity? As far as I know, he is a much loved person up here in Yorkshire, and any scandal would be very well known. I have never heard a word against him.

He is definitely not a Freemason. I would know. And I do not approve of your anti-Semitic remarks.

lol

It is the ripper. It's all in the link, don't dictate who people are and aren't. And the picture's from 1991

I'm not "having a go", there's just a lot that doesn't add up about Savile. And where the hell was I anti-semitic?

As for not being a Mason, who knows, I never even said he might be. You say you would know, but you appear to know fuck all so, for the sake of the widow's son, shut your yap before you humiliate yourself further!

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[dreamweaver]

For amandaooo, here's a site documenting four attacks on Sutcliffe:

http://www.execulink.com/~kbrannen/attackps.htm

[grandsecretary]

Take a look at The Sun article. It is Peter Sutcliffe,according to them.

Well this meeting must have taken place inside the safety of Broadmoor. Jimmy Savile is a volunteer worker at Broadmoor. He is a very compassionate man.

[armoured_amazon]

Jimmy Saville is a c***

[hirschfelder]

Remember how he scared Louis Theroux by finding out his address? " I have contacts everywhere"

Yeah, all his Godfather talk and how he was above the law, how he'd never discuss his meets with the Queen as that would make him a 'grass'. He's either genuinely connected or some sad old fantasist

Very interesting documentary that was. It's on Veoh, here's a link (http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=loius+jimmy&emb=0&aq=f#q=loius+jimmy&emb=0&aq=f&dur=3)

[chipstyxx]

Apparently Sir Jim'll was taking legal action against the sun for linking him to Haute de la Garenne. The article is dated 17 March 2008.

http://www.thelawyer.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?id=131780&d=415&h=417&f=416

As far as I can see he (or anybody else for that matter) is in no danger of being implicated in anything as a result of the hugely obvious cover up in Jersey anyway.

I watched the Louis Theroux documentary and if I remember correctly Saville explained why he had said he 'hated children'. He more or less explained that he was fearful of people accusing him of being a peadophile, so saying he hated children was one way to distance him self from the 'loner who likes kids a bit too much' image. I think there is a danger of being suspicious solely because he is a single unmarried man, which would be prejudicial. The fact that he is an Esteemed friend of Israel ( and no, it is not anti-semitic to point that out!) and Knight of Malta and all the other stuff is interesting though.

[thankyoudave]

So maybe Sutcliffe is a mason? Wasn't the other ripper Jack rumoured to be a mason?

[horus13]

grand secretary as he calls himself needs to get off this forum as soon as possible please. what are you doing on here anyway? this is a forum for "us" and you are quite clearly "them".

jimmy saville is bisexual and he also like kids, but his sexual orientation is much worse, probably the worst you can think of.

put it this way he has or did have some contacts at morgues around the country and he paid them for access to their, shall we say, clients.

this was a well known fact among the movers and shakers in the media, the news and entertainment industries but he has so much information on these people and so much clout that if this horrible truth ever came out they'd lose their jobs or worse. that is 100% true.

i have no idea what he's doing with the mentally ill frank bruno and the mentally ill peter sutcliffe but this is sending a message to someone. remember nothing happens by chance and this is clearly staged. the masonic handshake is in front of the words GOLD on savilles sweatshirt. so there's a masonic handshake with the word GOLD over it. take the idea of this being a photograph and look at it in plain black and white symbolism. the meeting took place in 1991 but it's only just been published now, so the date is significant too.

...also sutcliffe didn't do all the murders he was supposed to. he took the wrap for some of them and the person (persons to be more precise) killing prostitutes is/are still active today and was/were responsible for many murders reported in the newpapers even today. that's not 100% true but it's close.

[qwerty3]

I think Jimmy Savile is def a paedo ...the "lady doth protest too much" quote about hating children was a dead give away.

[talulah]

grand secretary as he calls himself needs to get off this forum as soon as possible please. what are you doing on here anyway? this is a forum for "us" and you are quite clearly "them".

jimmy saville isn't a hideous paedophile but his sexual orientation is much worse, probably the worst you can think of.

put it this way he has or did have some contacts at morgues around the country and he paid them for access to their, shall we say, clients.

this was a well known fact among the movers and shakers in the media, the news and entertainment industries but he has so much information on these people and so much clout that if this horrible truth ever came out they'd lose their jobs or worse. that is 100% true.

Oh my god!Hes a necrophiliac?that figures.ive always known he was a dogdy auld git.

[grandsecretary]

Jimmy Saville is a c***

No doubt he would have a lesser opinion of you, except that he is a gentleman, who would not use such filthy language, even in your case.

Jimmy has achieved a great deal in his life. He is far from being a person from a privileged background. He started his working life down a pit digging coal.

He succeeded as a very hard working and talented disk jockey in the 1950's, and ever since he has shared his good fortune with others who are less well off than himself.

Not least of which is the raising of many millions of pounds for worthwhile charities, thousands of hours of unpaid volunteer work, especially for the disabled at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, for the mentally ill such as yourself, the patients at Broadmoor Mental Hospital, Park Prewitt Mental Hospital, Basingstoke General Hospital, Leeds General Infirmary and St James's Children's Hospital.

MOD EDIT: Insult removed

[flip side]

Well this meeting must have taken place inside the safety of Broadmoor. Jimmy Savile is a volunteer worker at Broadmoor. He is a very compassionate man.

Wow, the Grandsecretary jumps to the defence of good old Jimmy Saville, says it all really!

Compassionate man indeed, I have a close friend in Leeds who would have to disagree with you there. I find it very interesting that you jump to the defence of this man. Blah blah charity work blah blah...we all know you people love your charity work for the old smoke and mirrors effect.

[armoured_amazon]

Wow, the Grandsecretary jumps to the defence of good old Jimmy Saville, says it all really!

Compassionate man indeed, I have a close friend in Leeds who would have to disagree with you there. I find it very interesting that you jump to the defence of this man. Blah blah charity work blah blah...we all know you people love your charity work for the old smoke and mirrors effect.

Indeed.

[grandsecretary]

grand secretary as he calls himself needs to get off this forum as soon as possible please. what are you doing on here anyway? this is a forum for "us" and you are quite clearly "them".

jimmy saville is bisexual and he also like kids, but his sexual orientation is much worse, probably the worst you can think of.

put it this way he has or did have some contacts at morgues around the country and he paid them for access to their, shall we say, clients.

this was a well known fact among the movers and shakers in the media, the news and entertainment industries but he has so much information on these people and so much clout that if this horrible truth ever came out they'd lose their jobs or worse. that is 100% true.

i have no idea what he's doing with the mentally ill frank bruno and the mentally ill peter sutcliffe but this is sending a message to someone. remember nothing happens by chance and this is clearly staged.

...also sutcliffe didn't do all the murders he was supposed to. he took the wrap for some of them and the person (persons to be more precise) killing prostitutes is/are still active today and was/were responsible for many murders reported in the newpapers even today. that's not 100% true but it's close.

Sutcliffe carried out his murders where I live mate! I know all about him. He is locked up where he belongs, but arseholes like you on this thread do not realise that people who are as ill as he is, need medical care and attention, as well as incarceration for the protection of others.

[itsallundercontrol]

Preventing Salmonella in Eggs - YouTube

[endlessvista]

[QUOTE=hirschfelder;827492]I've posted quite a bit about Jimmy Savile on various threads and here he is again, in another dubious situation, this time introducing the Yorkshire Ripper to Frank Bruno, as you do

And I do not approve of your anti-Semitic remarks.

You're being unfair to the OP.

[horus13]

...by calling somebody "an insignificant noise" you are showing your true colours 'grand secretary'. and don't call me an arsehole. you look like a fucking pervert from your profile picture, but then you probably are. i have worked in rampton top security hospital so i'm well aware of the need to imprison and care for the mentally ill and i could care less about savilles public persona of raising money for good causes etc. it's probably to balance out all the bad he's been doing and he probably doesn't want to go to hell etc. he shit himself when the not very probing not very investigative bambi on ice louis theroux asked him a couple of questions. the guys got a lot to hide and he won't be missed when he goes south.

[grandsecretary]

Wow, the Grandsecretary jumps to the defence of good old Jimmy Saville, says it all really!

Compassionate man indeed, I have a close friend in Leeds who would have to disagree with you there. I find it very interesting that you jump to the defence of this man. Blah blah charity work blah blah...we all know you people love your charity work for the old smoke and mirrors effect.

Put your unnamed "close friend" in touch with me and I will take him to meet Jimmy. Then we will see if he has the guts to tell him what he thinks to his face. He won't of course, because he will be just as false and gutless as dear old anonymous you. :mad:

[talulah]

...by calling somebody "an insignificant noise" you are showing your true colours 'grand secretary'. and don't call me an arsehole. you look like a fucking pervert from your profile picture, but you probably are. i have worked in rampton top security hospital so i'm well aware of the mentally ill. i could care less about his public persona of raising money for good causes etc. it's probably to balance out all the bad he's been doing and he probably doesn't want to go to hell etc.

exellent post

peace

[size_of_light]

I feel that it's appropriate here for someone non-British to jump in at this juncture and exclaim in a rather rude fashion "Who the fuck is Jimmy Saville?"

By name alone he sounds like some sad, insignificant local hack celebrity that anyone outside of the UK would marvel at for the sheer lack of talent he possessed in order to make him famous in that part of the world.

God help you bastards if other countries like Australia started to discuss it's own trivial, idiotic famous people 'of note' on this forum and subject you all to the same level of mind-numbingly banal discourse that the rest of us have to bear witness to.

[grandsecretary]

...by calling somebody "an insignificant noise" you are showing your true colours 'grand secretary'. and don't call me an arsehole. you look like a fucking pervert from your profile picture, but you probably are. i have worked in rampton top security hospital so i'm well aware of the need to imprison and care for the mentally ill. i could care less about savilles public persona of raising money for good causes etc. it's probably to balance out all the bad he's been doing and he probably doesn't want to go to hell etc.

You are just a lying toad. They wouldn't let you near Rampton unless it was in the back of a padded wagon in a straight jacket.

You haven't the guts of a louse. If you had the slightest evidence, as a former professional at Rampton (Ha ha) and with full access to the relevant Health Authority, you would have made formal representation by now.

I really do despise crap like you.

[endlessvista]

I feel that it's appropriate here for someone non-British to jump in at this juncture and exclaim in a rather rude fashion "Who the fuck is Jimmy Saville?"

By name alone he sounds like some sad, insignificant local hack celebrity that anyone outside of the UK would marvel at for the sheer lack of talent he possessed in order to make him famous in that part of the world.

God help you bastards if other countries like Australia started to discuss it's own trivial, idiotic famous people 'of note' on this forum and subject you all to the same level of mind-numbingly banal discourse that the rest of us have to bear witness to.

He was pretty much a superstar in the 1970's. Like OJ Simpson was in the USA.

[hirschfelder]

By name alone he sounds like some sad, insignificant local hack celebrity that anyone outside of the UK would marvel at for the sheer lack of talent he possessed in order to make him famous in that part of the world.

That's the point. He should just be an insignificant minor celebrity, yet he has the ear of the Royal Family, the Thatchers, former Israeli Premier Ephraim Katzir and so-on

But whatever, don't bother to read the first post to grasp why he's a significant individual, just wade in with an opinion like everyone else

That's not even the Ripper he's with there, apparently

[endlessvista]

I despise anyone who carries out such filthy despicable character assassination.

Except when it is cultivated and implemented by Freemasons. Then it's "spreading the light" no doubt.

Saville is a total wingnut, I would not trust him to look after my hamster. Get over yourself. As for the chaity work and childrens friend just look at John Wayne Gacey.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/roslyncarterjohnwaynegacy.jpg
Being thanked for his community work by US first lady...


http://www.fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/john-wayne-gacy.jpg
Children's friend...

http://www.trutv.com/graphics/photos/serial_killers/notorious/gacy/(MUG)-John-Wayne-Gacy-(140).jpg

[horus13]

You are just a lying toad. They wouldn't let you near Rampton unless it was in the back of a padded wagon in a straight jacket.

You haven't the guts of a louse. If you had the slightest evidence, as a former professional at Rampton (Ha ha) and with full access to the relevant Health Authority, you would have made formal representation by now.

I really do despise crap like you.

they're not "professionals" at rampton. they're little more than prison wardens. you wear civilian clothing and refer to the patients by their first name. you get about £16,000 p.a which isn't enough to deal with the pond life in there. most of whom do not want to get cured.

i worked there as a key porter for about six months after leaving university about ten years ago and you get full access to the patients. i can assure you that you don't have to be a "professional" to work there.

you, mate, are an absolute wanker and i'd love to sort this problem you have face to face.

i heard about jimmy saville through an ex-girlfriend who worked for granada television, she presented me with evidence at the time.

[flip side]

Put your unnamed "close friend" in touch with me and I will take him to meet Jimmy. Then we will see if he has the guts to tell him what he thinks to his face. He won't of course, because he will be just as false and gutless as dear old anonymous you. :mad:

Touché...or should that be toupee?

I think the lady does protest too much Grandsecretary. Now why would I want to put my friend in contact with you? Don’t you and Jimmy have more pressing issues to deal with? What do you think will be achieved by this meeting? I am certain my friend would not want to go anywhere near Jimmy or an associate of him like you. Please...we all know why you are here...stop diverting people from the truth with your pathetic Freemason propaganda.

[grandsecretary]

they're not "professionals" at rampton. they're little more than prison wardens. you wear civilian clothing and refer to the patients by their first name. you get about £16,000 p.a which isn't enough to deal with the pond life in there. most of whom do not want to get cured.

i worked there as a key porter for about six months after leaving university about ten years ago and you get full access to the patients. i can assure you that you don't have to be a "professional" to work there.

you, mate, are an absolute wanker and i'd love to sort this problem you have face to face.

i heard about jimmy saville through an ex-girlfriend who worked for granada television, she presented me with evidence at the time.

The people in Rampton are considered by law and professional medical opinion to be mentally ill. You are lying, but if not, you were grossly overpaid. I would have sacked you after 5 minutes, with pleasure.

University? God help us! No wonder we are all broke!

You heard "... through an ex-girlfriend who worked for Granada Television". Well, I have worked at Granada, many times, and I know that his reputation there is beyond reproach. I am glad that you cannot keep girlfriends for long, especially if they are such vicious gossips.

[hirschfelder]

Seeing as this has been hidden in the Rant Room, I may as well get into the necrophilia allegations

There have been two significant allusions made by high-profile media figures

First of all, about ten years ago, Skinner and Baddiel were joking about necrophilia and Skinner finished off with a Savile impression

And in Irvine Welsh's short story, Lorraine Goes To Washington, there is depicted a local, eccentric, loner celebrity, well known for charitable deeds, who is also into coffin crawling. Welsh says it was inspired by a real media figure

Again, not proof of anything, but it's interesting that these allusions were never objected to

[itsallundercontrol]

Musical Youth - Jim'll Fix It Theme - YouTube


what a great thread best laugh ive had today

well done

[horus13]

Seeing as this has been hidden in the Rant Room, I may as well get into the necrophilia allegations

There have been two significant allusions made by high-profile media figures

First of all, about ten years ago, Skinner and Baddiel were joking about necrophilia and Skinner finished off with a Savile impression

And in Irvine Welsh's short story, Lorraine Goes To Washington, there is depicted a local, eccentric, loner celebrity, well known for charitable deeds, who is also into coffin crawling. Welsh says it was inspired by a real media figure

Again, not proof of anything, but it's interesting that these allusions were never objected to

...not it's not proof but they're alluding to it. it's a pretty well known fact in certain circles. here's a reply that the supposed freemason sent to a personal message i sent him asking him what his problem was :

"I am here to make sure that lying toads like you will never have a free run, and I can assure you that I am very well protected. Now slither back under your rock".

...he's not a freemason. they never show their hand. he's clearly a looney.

[hirschfelder]

...not it's not proof but they're alluding to it. it's a pretty well known fact in certain circles.

I'm not Grand Secretary so I can't refer to it as 'fact'. I'm not the type to go round calling people names and making claims I can't prove. I'm a man of honour, not a pinny-wearing pissflap who makes random unsubstantiated claims on the internet

It's pretty damning stuff though

[tb303]

I feel that it's appropriate here for someone non-British to jump in at this juncture and exclaim in a rather rude fashion "Who the fuck is Jimmy Saville?"

Jimmy Saville single-handedly invented DJing utilising two turntables and a microphone, rapping and hip hop and started the fashion trend for tracksuits and bling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile#Early_life

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/jimmysailleDM_468x648.jpg

[hirschfelder]

...he's not a freemason. they never show their hand. he's clearly a looney.

Yeah I get that impression too

Either way, he hasn't contributed anything, bar lies and name calling

[hirschfelder]

Jimmy Saville single-handedly invented DJing utilising two turntables and a microphone, rapping and hip hop and started the fashion trend for tracksuits and bling.

The Guardian had a piece a few years ago about this. It's an interesting take on the genesis of hip-hop and yet another crazy element to the Savile story

Here it is

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2004/apr/20/guesteditors2

[oddblock]

Someone here looks and acts like the Viz character 'Major Misunderstanding'

Back to topic though - When it comes to Saville, and the kind of acts he commited, sometimes word of mouth is simply all you have! Not much you can do about it and just because he's done a bit of charity work that's tangible and in the media does not mean he did not commit these crimes. Come on GrandSecretary, you can't deny it's a possibility?

[horus13]

I'm not Grand Secretary so I can't refer to it as 'fact'. I'm not the type to go round calling people names and making claims I can't prove. I'm a man of honour, not a pinny-wearing pissflap who makes random unsubstantiated claims on the internet

you don't call people names so what's "a pinny-wearing pissflap who makes random unsubstantiated claims on the internet". i give up! you managed contradict yourself in the space of a sentence. man of honour maybe....

also look into the history of hip hop in new york and saville's got absolutely nothing to do with it. it was kool herc and afrika bambaata.

[tb303]

The Guardian had a piece a few years ago about this. It's an interesting take on the genesis of hip-hop and yet another crazy element to the Savile story

Yep, like it or not all you hip-hoppers, Saville started it all off.

There's also a theory that he was the one that told the Beatles to stop making dodgy US inspired rock 'n roll, which means he could take credit for the Beatles too!

[jay303]

wouldnt peter sutcliff be safer back in broadmore
there are some who are going to find him

[amandaooo]

Oh my good giddy Aunt!!! -

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/jimmysailleDM_468x648.jpg

Hubby just said he looks like his ex! He also said his ex had a beard all over her face but too polite to say anything - ewwwwwww!!!!!

[horus13]

didn't the beatles continuously make dodgy us inspired rock n roll?

[grandsecretary]

wouldnt peter sutcliff be safer back in broadmore
there are some who are going to find him

He MUST be kept in Broadmoor and we should campaign for that aim, there is nothing wrong with that. But we must also realise, and have compassion for a severely damaged individual, who is dangerous, and ill.

I understand that he may be transferred to a Category 'A' Prison which IMHO will be bad for him, bad for the prison, bad for the staff, and bad for society at large. I cannot see any advantage, and suspect that it is a cost saving measure, the worst excuse under the circumstances.

[horus13]

I am the Grand Secretary actually. And a man (aged 60) who will not allow lying toads like you a free run, especially when you PM people with threats of violence.

The PM reply to you was very clear - rocky. :cool:

well that says it all. what's a sad old man coming on here arguing with predominantly kids about stuff he has no understanding of. i would like to make it clear that i never once threatened you with violence in the personal message so don't go down that road. i requested (and would still initiate) a face to face meeting with you so i could see what your problem was and you are who you claim to be. interpret that as you like. i still think you're not who you say you are and you're clearly mad. these things can be found out with relative ease these days mr.secretary. while you're here would you make me a cup of coffee, take my phone calls and bend over like all good secretary's do.

[grandsecretary]

Oh my good giddy Aunt!!! -

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/jimmysailleDM_468x648.jpg

Hubby just said he looks like his ex! He also said his ex had a beard all over her face but too polite to say anything - ewwwwwww!!!!!

I must point out that I do not share his taste in dress.

[grandsecretary]

you don't call people names so what's "a pinny-wearing pissflap who makes random unsubstantiated claims on the internet". I give up! You managed contradict yourself in the space of a sentence. Man of honour maybe....

Also look into the history of hip hop in new york and saville's got absolutely nothing to do with it. It was kool herc and afrika bambaata.

lmao ;)

[hirschfelder]

Don't you use your celebrity status as head of the OXO family as a launchpad for your liberal politics, mason. Who do you think you are, Glenda Jackson?

[grandsecretary]

well that says it all. what's a sad old man coming on here arguing with predominantly kids about stuff he has no understanding of. i would like to make it clear that i never once threatened you with violence in the personal message so don't go down that road. i requested a face to face meeting with you so i could see what your problem was. interpret that as you like.

My kids argue with me, but they do so from a position of honesty, and they use the brain that God gave them. I learn a lot from them. If you want to argue, fine, but use argument and not empty bile, threats, and prejudice.

I may be 60 but I am well able to look after myself. Oh, and I am busy, and extremely happy. I am proud of my three kids, and if you expose GENUINE concerns, then I will be proud of you too.

Be nasty and I will bite!!! I still have a full set of gnashers. ;)

[grandsecretary]

Don't you use your celebrity status as head of the OXO family as a launchpad for your liberal politics, mason. Who do you think you are, Glenda Jackson?

I wish. She is far more successful in the business than I am. And full marks for spotting my politics. Maybe you are not as stupid as you demonstrate? I stood for parliament, as a Liberal, (NOT a Liberal Democrat) in 1979. I am impressed.

[particlezen]

staff nurses get an average of £14,500 p.a to look after the most deranged who will never be let out. jimmy saville should definitely be in there.

band 5 (entry level) staff nurses earn £20-26k.

[horus13]

okay so they've had a pay rise. the jobs were advertised when the peaks first opened as £14,500 per year. the so called freemason should check out the link about the peaks i posted, it's all about intensive care of dangerous and severe personality disorders, but you've got to understand that some of the patients in secure units and in particular the peaks do not want to be cured. they are evil, they enjoyed what they did and would do it again, plus they are institutionalised and couldn't cope with the outside world in the first instance. which is why they are there. they also generally have the reading age of an eleven year old and many suffered abuse as children. so maybe jimmy saville shouldn't be in there.

[grandsecretary]

okay so they've had a pay rise. the jobs were advertised when the peaks first opened as £14,500 per year. the so called freemason should check out the link about the peaks i posted, it's all about intensive care of dangerous and severe personality disorders, but you've got to understand that some of the patients in secure units and in particular the peaks do not want to be cured. they are evil, they enjoyed what they did and would do it again, plus they are institutionalised and couldn't cope with the outside world in the first instance. which is why they are there. they also generally have the reading age of an eleven year old and many suffered abuse as children. so maybe jimmy saville shouldn't be in there.

Nobody is underestimating the amazing work that these carers do, and if I could pay them double, I would.

I have spoken to the hospital staff who have worked with Jimmy, and I have also taken part in fund raising runs, with Jimmy, in Basingstoke, where I stood for parliament. Jimmy eats quite often in a restaurant owned by a friend of mine here in Leeds, and I see and meet him once or twice a year. I can assure you that he is well loved, and respected, here in Leeds, and in the world of show business.

The staff at Park Prewitt and Basingstoke General love Jimmy and are very grateful for what he has done there. Similarly Stoke Mandeville and Broadmoor.

You say that you are connected via Rampton. Why don't you ask your former colleagues at Broadmoor what they think about Jim? I know already.

[wakeupworld]

Sorry haven`t read all this thread as too much anger in it.
Has it been mentioned here that at the scene of one of Sutcliffes murders he heard a car driving away from the entrance of a house and he later it was found out it was the driveway of Jimmy Saville`s house.

[hirschfelder]

Sorry haven`t read all this thread as too much anger in it.
Has it been mentioned here that at the scene of one of Sutcliffes murders he heard a car driving away from the entrance of a house and he later it was found out it was the driveway of Jimmy Saville`s house.

I never knew that, but it appears to be true

"Mr Sutcliffe also told police he left the murder scene after he heard voices, but couldn't tell where they came from. He also heard a car being driven away from the entrance to a house. Later he found out that the house was where disc jockey Jimmy Savile lived"
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:laTsZYpftqgJ:www.execulink.com/~kbrannen/trialall.pdf+peter+sutcliffe+jimmy+saville&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=11&gl=uk&client=firefox-a

Creepy

[grandsecretary]

I have had enough of this innuendo. I will contact a friend of mine who was one of the police officers involved in the case, and I will ask him if this is true or not. I don;t know how long it will take but I will get back to you on this one.

I prefer to deal in fact.

[grandsecretary]

True. He passed the house and heard a car pulling away. He later found out that the house belonged to Jimmy Savile. Spooky coincidence.:eek:

[sean]

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[howie]

from Google search...

Pictured: The moment Frank Bruno shook hands with the Yorkshire ...
25 Feb 2009 ... Sir Jimmy Savile introduced Bruno and Sutcliffe while he was volunteering .... Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday, Evening Standard ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article.../Pictured-The-moment-Frank-Bruno-shook-hands-Yorkshire-Ripper--Jimmy-Savile-looked-on.htm...


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[rhydra]

I was in Sheffield a few years back and I was aware of this gentleman with white hair in a white shell suit sitting on his own outside a cafe smoking a cigar. It was he, and I don't know if it's just me but I did feel more than a tad creeped out.:eek:

[Ian2day]

SJS lives round the corner from me I think. I saw him once directing traffic wearing a police dayglo jacket.

[bendoon]

Check out Bruno's handshake. I know fuck all about Masons, but the grip seems pretty stylized to me,

I would say that is definitely a masonic handshake, if you notice they both have the thumb in the exact same position.

And more often than not people who do a lot for charity tend to only do it to create an image as bein a good guy, so they people will never think they are up to no good in private. Prime examples bein Bill Gates, Rockefellers, George Soros etc etc.

[macc]

Sorry haven`t read all this thread as too much anger in it.
Has it been mentioned here that at the scene of one of Sutcliffes murders he heard a car driving away from the entrance of a house and he later it was found out it was the driveway of Jimmy Saville`s house.

This is fucking mad im in the twilight zone ...seriously I havent laughed so much for ages

[polveirbecker]

My old man met Jimmy once and said he was full of himself. He wasn’t a very nice character to come across. I’ll get more info on this tomorrow.

[hunter77]

I feel that it's appropriate here for someone non-British to jump in at this juncture and exclaim in a rather rude fashion "Who the fuck is Jimmy Saville?"

By name alone he sounds like some sad, insignificant local hack celebrity that anyone outside of the UK would marvel at for the sheer lack of talent he possessed in order to make him famous in that part of the world.

God help you bastards if other countries like Australia started to discuss it's own trivial, idiotic famous people 'of note' on this forum and subject you all to the same level of mind-numbingly banal discourse that the rest of us have to bear witness to.

youve got a point mate, in an ideal world the thread would of focused on the evil mass murdering and very much still alive peter sucliffe( aka the yorkshire ripper), but once again it turned into a mason vs non mason thread:confused:

[socrates]

Is Sutcliffe wearing Jimmy Saville's tracksuit top? Strange.

[nirvana]

I dont know if Jimmy savile is a paedaphile or not. But if we carry on going round in this circle we could have him as a reptilian clone sent to earth as the anti christ .By page 18 lol
Its easy to go with the flow but we may just be hypnotising ourselves.


Peace:)

[amandaooo]

Just bumping it up there - I want to read page 18 - my expectations are high now!

[runlikehell]

I think Jimmy Saville is a bit disturbed. I remeber seeing a documentry about him, and he was talking about his mother who had died some time ago. He has still got her room the way she left it all those years ago and all her cothing ect.

Mmmmmmm?

[blueyonder2012]

And I do not approve of your anti-Semitic remarks.


EH??


:rolleyes:

[deany]

[QUOTE=hirschfelder;827492]I've posted quite a bit about Jimmy Savile on various threads and here he is again, in another dubious situation, this time introducing the Yorkshire Ripper to Frank Bruno, as you do

Not the Yorkshire Ripper at all. The Yorkshire Ripper is in a secure unit at Broadmoor Mental Hospital in Berkshire.

Why are you having a go at a successful but relatively minor TV personality who spends most of his time raising money for charity? As far as I know, he is a much loved person up here in Yorkshire, and any scandal would be very well known. I have never heard a word against him.

He is definitely not a Freemason. I would know. And I do not approve of your anti-Semitic remarks.


anti semetic remarks? why because he used the word "Jewish" I guess?

shame in him!

[talulah]

I think Jimmy Saville is a bit disturbed. I remeber seeing a documentry about him, and he was talking about his mother who had died some time ago. He has still got her room the way she left it all those years ago and all her cothing ect.

Mmmmmmm?

Yeah i watched that too...

When Louis Theroux met Jimmy Savile - the flat in Scarborough - BBC - YouTube

[talulah]

Jimmy Savile meets Louis Theroux - Zero Tolerance - YouTube

Jimmy talkin about his dance halls days-Sinister

[mandroid]

i did a music track featuring spitting image samples of jimmy saville just
for fun ages ago..

if anybody wants to check it out heres a link..


http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=a3195ced9b6cd64f4c17ca8801618ef7e04e75f6 e8ebb871


its a bit cheesy and poor quality as its that old,nearly as old as his magik chair lol...

[bradstone]

That may look 'sinister,' but Jimmy was making his own moral judgments on people who behaved badly, and knew how to deal with do-gooder police officers.

I don't see the problem with that necessarily.

Perhaps if more people in positions of authority were like that, the 'police' would actually be more effective, since they have other people keeping them in check.

That's just an alternative view.

i.e. Somebody with morals has to take a stand if they are running a venue like that, or they will be walked all over. There's an element of the 'evil elite' but at least it's manly enough to take charge, that's all I will say.

[bicycle]

Oh my good giddy Aunt!!! -

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/jimmysailleDM_468x648.jpg

Hubby just said he looks like his ex! He also said his ex had a beard all over her face but too polite to say anything - ewwwwwww!!!!!

OMG! I have just spotted Orion's Belt in his freckles:eek:

[scatlond]

I think Louis theroux looks like Jimmy savilles love child.

[breezinreezin]

... and don't call me an arsehole. you look like a fucking pervert from your profile picture, but then you probably are. i have worked in rampton top security hospital so i'm well aware of the need to imprison and care for the mentally ill

You worked in Rampton and can spot a pervert just by looking at his photo. How are they coping without your expert, forensic character analysis?

[blueyonder2012]

I stood for parliament, as a Liberal, (NOT a Liberal Democrat) in 1979. I am impressed.

ee "grand" Secretary you do make me chuckle!:D:D

Liberal or Conservative - There is no common sense, dont even mention wisdom in politics. Its old school - BOLiTICS!

He knows everthing and are never wrong

http://www.outdoorphotography.com/files/u1/head_up_ass.jpg
NO, IAM RIGHT - Iam the "Grand" Secretary, a higher position

.

[bendoon]

but once again it turned into a mason vs non mason thread:confused:

Doesn't the fact that Masons jump into a thread like this raise some suspiscion in itself.

[the nine]

[QUOTE=hirschfelder;827492]I've posted quite a bit about Jimmy Savile on various threads and here he is again, in another dubious situation, this time introducing the Yorkshire Ripper to Frank Bruno, as you do

Not the Yorkshire Ripper at all. The Yorkshire Ripper is in a secure unit at Broadmoor Mental Hospital in Berkshire.

Why are you having a go at a successful but relatively minor TV personality who spends most of his time raising money for charity? As far as I know, he is a much loved person up here in Yorkshire, and any scandal would be very well known. I have never heard a word against him.

He is definitely not a Freemason. I would know. And I do not approve of your anti-Semitic remarks.

look at the fucking picture..its PETER SUTCLIFF THE YORKSHIRE RIPPER!!!!!:rolleyes:

how would you know he is definately NOT a freemason? (or any of the other evil secret society shits)???? please do tell

so one of your idolds turns out to but very suspect..get over it man!


you anti semite remarks are typical mud slinging to avert attention when intellect is absent.. try harder, must improve! 1.5/10

[the nine]

So maybe Sutcliffe is a mason? Wasn't the other ripper Jack rumoured to be a mason?

it would be very interesting to see if the dates the ripper carried out his murders, had any masonic/satan sacrificial significance...

[fekdemasons]

Jimmy saville presented TOTP. So did Jonathon King , Gary Glitter was on it millions of times.

Who else can we put in the frame.

DLT ??? He looked like a sutcliffe relative.

Tony Blackburn ?? (doubtfull)

Remember the Harry enfield send up , Smashie and Nicey .

Wot ya doin the weekend then mate ?

Ah well , i'll be with a " Young friend " and a take away Pizza.

[pinkgeranium]

Sorry, I had to post this...........:D



Jimmy Jangle - YouTube

[pandamania]

Sorry, I had to post this...........:D



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK01f5_aKY4&feature=related

Very good.

[rewind_bo]

Jimmy is well know around leeds/yorkshire for his feelings towards kids (and its not hate). He has an order to stay away from the prince henry school in otley after harassing one of the girls there.

[91181]

I've posted quite a bit about Jimmy Savile on various threads and here he is again, in another dubious situation, this time introducing the Yorkshire Ripper to Frank Bruno, as you do

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3576/snn2501asutcliffe740914.jpg

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2270180.ece

Check out Bruno's handshake. I know fuck all about Masons, but the grip seems pretty stylized to me, perhaps someone who knows more (not an actual Mason, as they're inherently dishonest and untrustworthy, no offence :)) could shed some light?

I know it all seems trivial and far-fetched, it's just a simple DJ and boxer meeting a serial killer for some reason, and I'm a world a way from proving any case against Savile, but there's so much about the bloke that doesn't add up and this "story" is just so bizarre

A few things about Jimmy Savile, a simple working-class DJ from a Leeds mining family

- He has both a Royal and Papal knighthood (Order of St. Gregory the Great)

- He is a Knights Hospitaller (also known as the Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem of Rhodes and of Malta, Order of St. John, Knights of Malta, and Chevaliers of Malta)

- He's an "Esteemed Friend of Israel", according to his Wiki page, whatever that is

- In a June 08 interview with Esquire, Savile boasted of his closeness with Royalty and Prime Ministers

- How he gave marriage guidance to Prince Andrew at the behest of the Duke of Edinburgh

- How Princess Diana described him as "a mentor to Charles"

- How he addressed the Israeli cabinet, the Knesset, and told them that they'd "forgotten how to be Jewish"

- He shares his very unusual surname with West Yorkshire's most elite family. Leeds' coat-of-arms, which depicts three owls, is based on the Savile family crest and Sir William Savile, a royalist, was amazingly freed by Sir Thomas Fairfax (a high-ranking Mason) after losing a battle in Leeds during the Civil War. Officially, Jimmy is no relation

- There is an injunction in place against News International prohibiting them from publishing photos of Jimmy at Haute de la Garenne, the child abuse scandal home in Jersey

- In his own words, Jimmy is, "the éminence grise: the grey, shadowy figure in the background.”

And that's all without getting into the unsavoury rumours about his sex life

Perhaps I'm making something out of nothing but, as I say, his story just doesn't add up

More on Savile, once described as "the most jewish non-jew you could ever meet":
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18681&highlight=savile&page=3
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3868024.ece



Wow..I never knew he was so well connected to the Elite,its all adding up now..

[the nine]

So maybe Sutcliffe is a mason? Wasn't the other ripper Jack rumoured to be a mason?

it would be very interesting to see the dates of his murders had any occult sacrifice significance..

[the nine]

Sutcliffe carried out his murders where I live mate! I know all about him. He is locked up where he belongs, but arseholes like you on this thread do not realise that people who are as ill as he is, need medical care and attention, as well as incarceration for the protection of others.

so why is jimmy saville visiting him again?

[eternal_spirit]

so why is jimmy saville visiting him again?
Witnessing for Jehova?

[cookie_dude]

I have an uncle who lived in Salford, Manchester as a kid.
He told me that Jimmy S took him and his mates for a ride in his Rolls Royce. He used to do this often to all the kids from the poor areas.

[talulah]

Now Then, Now Then (The Jimmy Saville Rap) - Sam Mitchell and the Mystery Cards - YouTube

:eek:

[kiwimaj]

I have an uncle who lived in Salford, Manchester as a kid.
He told me that Jimmy S took him and his mates for a ride in his Rolls Royce. He used to do this often to all the kids from the poor areas.

..did your Uncle mention anything untoward go on in that roller of his? :rolleyes:

[richmick]

Well talking of handshakes, look at the last picture of David 'Dave' Cameron. Rather odd isn't it?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1191031/Berlusconis-fury-photographs-topless-women-cavorting-villa-published.html

[captaincaper]

Funny as Fk thread......Its an old photo I understand so no "statute" being broken but saville clearly has no respect for the no smoking sign behind him, :D

[redman]

Jimmy is a right sinister character IMO. Well and truly acts like he has got a lot to hide.


Dodgy cunt.

[john doe]

According to Chris Everard in the Lady Die documentary, it was a gang of masons involved in the Ripper murders. the leader of them was winston churchills father.

Everard reckons the women that were murdered were attempting to blackmail the royal house as they had found out about the illegitimate child of prince eddy,

well worth a watch,

you can find it on google video,

[rydeon]

I would say that is definitely a masonic handshake, if you notice they both have the thumb in the exact same position.

And more often than not people who do a lot for charity tend to only do it to create an image as bein a good guy, so they people will never think they are up to no good in private. Prime examples bein Bill Gates, Rockefellers, George Soros etc etc.

I know what you mean, freemasons are out there, but are we to tar every freemason with the same brush of evil because some evil ones sneak their way in and ruin it for everyone else?

[cacadores]

First of all, about ten years ago, Skinner and Baddiel were joking about necrophilia and Skinner finished off with a Savile impression
And in Irvine Welsh's short story, Lorraine Goes To Washington, there is depicted a local, eccentric, loner celebrity, well known for charitable deeds, who is also into coffin crawling. Welsh says it was inspired by a real media figure
Again, not proof of anything, but it's interesting that these allusions were never objected to

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Is this really how you construct your world?

Rumours - explained for children

Rumours start with an anocdote, which may or may not be true. They are then spread and distorted with each re-telling until they bear no relation to the original. It's what rumours are. Aren't you interested in the truth?

Think about it: BBC staff are a hotbed of rumour and gossip - I know, I socialised with a lot of them at their Surrey sports centre. The more salacious, of course the better. We all like hearing the dirt, don't we?

But you forget: you're trashing a man's life. It's all very well to tell a story over a pint to your mate, but to dredge it up in public on a fishing expedition shows an INHUMAN (I write that word with good reason:) an INHUMAN lack of compassion. Your inhumanity towards a man who has done you no harm and done a lot of people a lot of good is simply repulsive. You looking for the truth? Or are you a reptillian prepared to trash a life to get some titillation?



Check out Bruno's handshake. I know fuck all about Masons, but the grip seems pretty stylized to me, perhaps someone who knows more (not an actual Mason, as they're inherently dishonest and untrustworthy, no offence :)) could shed some light?


What, are you fishing? 'Stylised handshakes...' Come on!

Fish long enough, and you'll eventually get what you're looking for. It won't be the truth but hey - it'll be titillating though.



As for not being a Mason, who knows, I never even said he might be. You say you would know, but you appear to know fuck all so, for the sake of the widow's son, shut your yap before you humiliate yourself further!


Actually, for the sake of the truth (that's what we're here for, isn't it?), You suggested he was a mason.

I personally believe that out and out lies, especially to protect the ego, have no place in the quest for the truth. What do you think?

Wow, the Grandsecretary jumps to the defence of good old Jimmy Saville, says it all really!

Compassionate man indeed, I have a close friend in Leeds who would have to disagree with you there. I find it very interesting that you jump to the defence of this man. Blah blah charity work blah blah...we all know you people love your charity work for the old smoke and mirrors effect.

Condemming a man for helping others? The Kalahari Bushmen say, that a man with no compassion is not a person at all. So I can only understand such a textural display of selfishness as the nihilisitc egotism that it is.

Necorphilia charges against Jimmy Savile

Appear to have originiated as a result of his skin-flintish nature. When his mother ''the Duchess'' died, he arranged the funeral himself. He appears to have not appreciated that she couldn't be buried until the ground thawed. By his own admission, it resulted in him staying in the same house as her for five days.

In November 2007, Angus Deayton was censured by the BBC for making a "pungently personal" joke about Sir Jimmy Savile and his late mother, based on the idea of watching her get mouldy. This accords with how I heard about the subject from BBC staff: it was always presented as a joke - not as a scandal. Only later, on places like here, did people try to imbue the story with some cod-horror.

Fish away, if you must. But it's sending me to sleep.

[grandsecretary]

I defended Jimmy Savile because I know him, I know what a good man he is, and I also know that you (hirschfelder) are an evil minded pillock with nothing to say worth listening to.

[cacadores]

Jimmy is a right sinister character IMO. Well and truly acts like he has got a lot to hide.

Dodgy c***.

The Reptile within Redman

A total lack of insight into the relationship between the way people act and what they are is no excuse for the almost reptillain lack of HUMANITY that post displays.

Jimmy Savile is known for his forthright opinions and openness: it's apparent in every interview done about his life. But, having not read them, nor ever spoken to the man, you want to trash a man's life because you don't have the capacity to see the difference between a man's looks and a man's acts (many of which, less face it helped a lot of people, including voluntary work at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, famed for it's treatment of spinal injuries).

I'm not defending Mr Savile. No doubt he's done some things he might not want to tell us about - like most people. We don't really know.

But more interesting is redman. How a person apparenty seeking the truth can instead slip into a mind-frame of out and out inhumanity towards another human being. Is that the reptillain brain coming to the fore? The reptillain brain (at the base of the ceribral cortex) objectifies it's environment and mainly seeks physical gratification.

redman sees a man who has actually helped a lot of ill people enjoy better lives, he objectifies him and then tries to hurt him by using the most offensive personal epithet in the English language. How should we judge a person who appears to react to the idea of compassion with an attack designed for titilation?

I leave it to you: who do you think is displaying the most acute form of reptillian dementia here?


grandsecretary,

Agree. Hirschfelder's inhumane and compassion-free rhetoric is really more suited to Germany, 1939.

[monkfish]

:D

[devanshoom]

I feel that it's appropriate here for someone non-British to jump in at this juncture and exclaim in a rather rude fashion "Who the fuck is Jimmy Saville?"

By name alone he sounds like some sad, insignificant local hack celebrity that anyone outside of the UK would marvel at for the sheer lack of talent he possessed in order to make him famous in that part of the world.

God help you bastards if other countries like Australia started to discuss it's own trivial, idiotic famous people 'of note' on this forum and subject you all to the same level of mind-numbingly banal discourse that the rest of us have to bear witness to.

haha...a very well executed paragraph indeed.......you should write a book mate

i confess to knowing him....ex BBC DJ and kids TV show dude, among other things...he was running marathons in his 70s i think.....strikes me as rather bogus character but then im a conspiracy nut.....i cant think of anyone in australia who could be called his equivilent


.

[hunter77]

haha...a very well executed paragraph indeed.......you should write a book mate

i confess to knowing him....ex BBC DJ and kids TV show dude, among other things...he was running marathons in his 70s i think.....strikes me as rather bogus character but then im a conspiracy nut.....i cant think of anyone in australia who could be called his equivalent


.

that's because jimmy saville is older than the history of the non indigenous history of australia;):D

[devanshoom]

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Please stay on topic.

spam points? I'll have some of that...how many points do we need for a tin?

Star Trek Meets Monty Python - YouTube

[devanshoom]

Star Trek as The A-Team - YouTube

[bazil brazeel]

jimmy said on Louis show how he enjoyed sex with young ladies then quickly said he meant legally aged girls

[dantesrevival]

jimmy said on Louis show how he enjoyed sex with young ladies then quickly said he meant legally aged girls

yes but where they alive at the time? lol

[kiwimaj]

All I will say is this, from very personal experience..

If you have a man who is overly obsessed with the mother figure and lives with her for most of his adult life, without having any other relationship, no children, no ex partners that you can name or remember..then there is def some questions with regards to their true nature..

I don't care how much so called "charity work" they do, it's often times a cover, a facade for the fact that they are as evil as f**k..

I have seen this time and time again, some weird s**t to do with the mother figure and sexually abusing children...

How come JS can get all sorts of commendations and awards from the reptilians, for doing what exactly.....charity work? And how come he is still alive, looking very sprightly, I have heard that longevity can be down to child sacrifice, drinking the blood of young children to keep 'em young...

So why exactly does a nasty, ugly looking specimen get a major prime time TV show involving...children...and why exactly does he need to put in place a gagging order with regards to him visiting the Jersey care home where lots of kids were abused and murdered??...hmmm...let me think now...

..does 2 and 2 really add up to4? NO, of course it doesn't, not especially if you are the ones protecting the paedo known as Jimmy Saville !


Nice...:eek:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00203/ed_imgSNN2329C_265_203921a.jpg

[polveirbecker]

Something I posted a while ago now :eek: -

My old man met Jimmy once and said he was full of himself. He wasn’t a very nice character to come across. I’ll get more info on this tomorrow.

My old man was doing some gardening project in Leeds Train station when he met Jimmy. I can see how he’d come across as an unpleasant person at first. I myself don’t come across as a very nice person on these forums. But those who know me know that I have good things in my heart.

Finally onto Jimmy Savile.

I watched his documentary a while ago and he said he talks to the queen about things he can’t talk to the public about. Now 90% will instantly assume that Jimmy and the Queen talk about child abuse and all the other unsavoury stuff that’s rumoured about them. The 10% will look for other things that Jimmy and the Queen may talk about.

Hand on heart if Jimmy could fix the world he would. However the world is a much bigger place than Jimmy. Johnny Cash wanted to help the prisons and in the end he realised he couldn’t do it all.

It’s a tragic world we live in and I truly believe that people like Jimmy and the Queen do try and make it a better world where they can. I hardily doubt we’ll get a decent debate of that on here though :eek:

You’ve got to remember it is just rumours when it comes to these people. Don’t accept all that is said on these forums as fact.

Am I talking to a brick wall? :D

[polveirbecker]

and why exactly does he need to put in place a gagging order with regards to him visiting the Jersey care home where lots of kids were abused and murdered??...hmmm...let me think now...

Start digging up that information then.

Lets say a random member of the public was found on some archive photo that someone has kept from they time at this home and the media starts to sensationalise -

WHO IS THIS BLOKE AND IS HE INNOCENT?

Probably the reason why Jimmy put a gagging order on such information is because a lot of people will base a common assumption as fact. Whenever it’s a fact or not is yet to be established.

You only have to look back at how many women were though to be Maxine Carr when she was released from prison and given a new identity - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/5282960.stm

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42011000/jpg/_42011688_meek203.jpg

Now lets really touch the bone. Look at how the mainstream media sensationalised David Icke in the wrong way in the 1990s. The same thing would of happened to Jimmy if he wouldn’t of put a gagging order on such information.

Most people just don’t think and have a pitchfork and torch mentality!

[cacadores]

polveirbecker,

Agree with most everything you say. Not sure what a ''pitchfork and torch mentality'' could be though.

All I will say is this, from very personal experience..
If you have a man who is overly obsessed with the mother figure and lives with her for most of his adult life, without having any other relationship, no children, no ex partners that you can name or remember..then there is def some questions with regards to their true nature..
I don't care how much so called "charity work" they do, it's often times a cover, a facade for the fact that they are as evil as f**k..

Come on - I can't believe you finished your education at age 8. So you've done some surveys, have you? You've got some statisitcs to back your points up? Or.....

did you just make that all up?

I think we know the answer.
People who find it difficult to have intimate relationships find it, er, difficult to have intimate relationships. What else they do with their time is simply serindipity.

Do we know what Jimmy Savile does with his time?

Well, yes.

He's been a:
coal miner,
club manager,
pro wrestler,
DJ,
TV presenter,
business consultant,
philanthropist
and author.
Railway marketer.
An honorary Royal Marine and Green Beret (after successfully completing their 30 mile Dartmoor course.
Inventer of the plastic railcard.
Registered taxi driver,
Hospital orderly and
and marathon runner.

''I don't care how much so called "charity work" they do, it's often times a cover, a facade for the fact that they are as evil as f**k''

Er.....no. Helping people is a healthy sign of compassionate feeling: i.e. the social feeling which makes the human animal like being in groups. Your statement, aside from displaying an anti-social propensity, shows an unusual pathalogical selfishness which is actually not shared by most people.

[grandsecretary]

All I will say is this, from very personal experience..

If you have a man who is overly obsessed with the mother figure and lives with her for most of his adult life, without having any other relationship, no children, no ex partners that you can name or remember..then there is def some questions with regards to their true nature..

I don't care how much so called "charity work" they do, it's often times a cover, a facade for the fact that they are as evil as f**k..

I have seen this time and time again, some weird s**t to do with the mother figure and sexually abusing children...

How come JS can get all sorts of commendations and awards from the reptilians, for doing what exactly.....charity work? And how come he is still alive, looking very sprightly, I have heard that longevity can be down to child sacrifice, drinking the blood of young children to keep 'em young...

So why exactly does a nasty, ugly looking specimen get a major prime time TV show involving...children...and why exactly does he need to put in place a gagging order with regards to him visiting the Jersey care home where lots of kids were abused and murdered??...hmmm...let me think now...

..does 2 and 2 really add up to4? NO, of course it doesn't, not especially if you are the ones protecting the paedo known as Jimmy Saville !


Nice...:eek:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00203/ed_imgSNN2329C_265_203921a.jpg

You are the VERY sick ...

[kitler]

We have no proof that Sir Jimmy has done anything evil and not a single one of us has ever been fucked over by him so why not just assume he is an OK bloke.

The only thing we know for sure about him is that he has been very successful at many different things and he is without question a unique person who is unlike anyone else on Earth. These are good qualities for a man to have.

And even if the rumors are true, who gives a shit? Leonardo Da Vinci fucked dead people and the world kept turning.

[cacadores]

I don't care how much so called "charity work" they do, it's often times a cover, a facade for the fact that they are as evil as f**k..

I have seen this time and time again, some weird s**t to do with the mother figure and sexually abusing children...


1 in 50 people in the UK do work for charities. That's over a million people.

Re-think time for kiwimaj.

[grandsecretary]

We have no proof that Sir Jimmy has done anything evil and not a single one of us has ever been fucked over by him so why not just assume he is an OK bloke.

The only thing we know for sure about him is that he has been very successful at many different things and he is without question a unique person who is unlike anyone else on Earth. These are good qualities for a man to have.

And even if the rumors are true, who gives a shit? Leonardo Da Vinci fucked dead people and the world kept turning.

They are NOT true and human decency demands that such unfounded allegations are not repeated. I KNOW Jimmy and he is a thoroughly decent man.

Most men of his age (he is 84 years of age) would be sitting in a chair in an old people's home doing sweet F.A. He continues to work at keeping fit so that he can continue to care for the sick, the disabled, the disadvantaged, and especially the mentally impaired.

http://www.radiorewind.co.uk/radio1/jimmy_savile_page.htm

He is a great Yorkshireman and when he goes there will be far more people regretting his demise than will even give one second's consideration to those here who vilify him for NO reason.

[nosebleed]

To sit there and claim someone has sex with dead bodies based on rumors or hearsay is fucking outrageous.

[edelweiss pirate]

Where there's smoke there's fire.

There's wisdom in these old expressions.

People don't just make claims like this for no reason. But, being a showbiz legend and pal of the queen you can bet he's got a PR machine that works overtime to keep Sir Jimmy Slimeball's reputation whitewashed squeakly clean.

Just like all the other paedophile freemasons out there running the world from behind a screen of protection.

BTW are the masons planning on opening a masonic lodge on the grounds of our truth seeker forum.....? Perhaps they already have...

Open parties tend to get gatecrashed and the house soon gets trashed.... Oh well. So be it.

[kitler]

They are NOT true and human decency demands that such unfounded allegations are not repeated. I KNOW Jimmy and he is a thoroughly decent man.

Most men of his age (he is 84 years of age) would be sitting in a chair in an old people's home doing sweet F.A. He continues to work at keeping fit so that he can continue to care for the sick, the disabled, the disadvantaged, and especially the mentally impaired.

http://www.radiorewind.co.uk/radio1/jimmy_savile_page.htm

He is a great Yorkshireman and when he goes there will be far more people regretting his demise than will even give one second's consideration to those here who vilify him for NO reason.

I agree. I like the guy. The only thing we have proof of is that he helps a lot of people and is, in my opinion, very entertaining. Considering this forum is full of eccentrics and outsiders I'm surprised at all the hatred people here have for a man who is the ultimate eccentric outsider.

Where there's smoke there's fire.


Tell that to Colin Stagg

[bobbydiva]

wtf this thread is bizzaro land
Jimmy Saville

ha ha ha

I have no comment.

[iq_145]

Sutcliffe carried out his murders where I live mate! I know all about him. He is locked up where he belongs, but ******** like you on this thread do not realise that people who are as ill as he is, need medical care and attention, as well as incarceration for the protection of others.

No, Sutcliffe is not locked up "where he belongs." He enjoys a cushy life in a hospital environment. (Psychiatrists are, in the main, Jewish, and look after their own). Sutcliffe should be locked up in prison.

The other "ripper" was also a Jew - from Poland. He was whisked away, too, for his benefit, not anyone else's.

The handshake that Jewme Saville is observing in the picture is definitely masonic.

[magic7]

I'm very surprised no-one has mentioned Jimmy molesting a very young Coleen Nolan live on Top of the Pops. The footage has been shown on a tv documentary many times, during which the Nolan sisters talk about how furious they were at the old creep putting his hands all over their little sister.

So here we have video evidence of 'Sir' Jimmy acting in a sexually inapropriate way to a young girl (I think she was barely 16 at the time).

[convulsions for tea]

Jimmy Saville is a c***

AAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHHA YOU JUST COME OUT WITH WHAT EVERYONE IS THINKING :D

hi grand secetry remember me *waves*:p

[cacadores]

Where there's smoke there's fire.
People don't just make claims like this for no reason.


Oh yes they do. It's called salacious gossip and newspapers like the News of The World or the National Enquirer have been founded on it. Lying brings in the loot, makes an amusing story in the pub.......

So according to you, everyone accused is guilty?

Alfred Dreyfus should have just been left on his prison island. Who cares he was innocent - hey: no smoke without fire.:)

The Birminghan Six should never have been released. Fitted up? Nooo, hey - no smoke without fire.:o

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61h2iFQWhwL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Where else can we go with this? Levitation? Who cares if the main claiments have been found to have fixed the photos, because: hey, there's no smoke without fire.:)

The Greek plane-spotters accused of being spys? Hey. must be guilty because 'there's no smoke without fire'!:)

Nutter.

I'm very surprised no-one has mentioned Jimmy molesting a very young Coleen Nolan live on Top of the Pops. The footage has been shown on a tv documentary many times, during which the Nolan sisters talk about how furious they were at the old creep putting his hands all over their little sister.

So here we have video evidence of 'Sir' Jimmy acting in a sexually inapropriate way to a young girl (I think she was barely 16 at the time).
She complained? No. She participated and was old enough to give her consent. Talk about Prude!

[ronisron]

A bisexual, necrophiliac pedophile??? :D That's one hell of a pedigree. His pics alone creep me the frick out.....

Everyone seems to have a weird story or have heard a weird story about him. He either has a lousy PR representative, or he's not very careful. Yuck.

[redman]

The Reptile within Redman

A total lack of insight into the relationship between the way people act and what they are is no excuse for the almost reptillain lack of HUMANITY that post displays.

Jimmy Savile is known for his forthright opinions and openness: it's apparent in every interview done about his life. But, having not read them, nor ever spoken to the man, you want to trash a man's life because you don't have the capacity to see the difference between a man's looks and a man's acts (many of which, less face it helped a lot of people, including voluntary work at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, famed for it's treatment of spinal injuries).

I'm not defending Mr Savile. No doubt he's done some things he might not want to tell us about - like most people. We don't really know.

But more interesting is redman. How a person apparenty seeking the truth can instead slip into a mind-frame of out and out inhumanity towards another human being. Is that the reptillain brain coming to the fore? The reptillain brain (at the base of the ceribral cortex) objectifies it's environment and mainly seeks physical gratification.

redman sees a man who has actually helped a lot of ill people enjoy better lives, he objectifies him and then tries to hurt him by using the most offensive personal epithet in the English language. How should we judge a person who appears to react to the idea of compassion with an attack designed for titilation?

I leave it to you: who do you think is displaying the most acute form of reptillian dementia here?


grandsecretary,

Agree. Hirschfelder's inhumane and compassion-free rhetoric is really more suited to Germany, 1939.

Did you see the Louis theroux program with Jimmy Saville ?? Did you see it when he didn't think the camera was on him, down with the " lets help the kiddies " persona and on with the true sinister as fuck persona.

Any way, you can believe that he is what his public image portrays him to be. Good luck with that one. And you can waffle all you want about reptilian dimentia if it makes you happy, I will still think that this fucker is as dodgy as they come.

[sir nob jerkoff]

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3576/snn2501asutcliffe740914.jpg
Good ol' Jim. I wonder if Peter received one of these?

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9325/jimfixitbadge.jpg

[magic7]

She complained? No. She participated and was old enough to give her consent. Talk about Prude!

What the fuck are you talking about you moron?

It happened live as they were presenting Top of the Pops FFS. You obviously haven't seen the footage or you would know that she didn't 'consent' or 'participate' in being fondled.

Pervy Saville running his hands all over a girl young enough to be his granddaughter??? If it had happened on the bus or street he would have been arrested.

On a lighter note, that's the first time I've ever been called a prude:D

[carlperkins]

There is something very wrong with that photo. What the hell is going on?

I don't know if anyone is interested but I found this thread has been used on another website halfway down the page here:

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00938/Charles_at_Cockermo_938149a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://forums.reggaedubwise.com/open-topic-forum/1781-spastic.html&usg=__heEYIx12DlJsEv_k8mqoVkj8E64=&h=160&w=253&sz=21&hl=en&start=14&zoom=0&itbs=1&tbnid=le7rZGsA32PL6M:&tbnh=70&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djimmy%2Bsaville%2BHaut%2Bde%2Bla%2BGa renne%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1

Another thread that seems just as strange as this one. I need to get out more....

[gallifrey]

Never trust a man who copiously gives to charity....

[ragnarok]

Sorry, I had to post this...........:D



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK01f5_aKY4&feature=related


Classic stuff. Jim just fixed it for me!

[grandsecretary]

AAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHHA YOU JUST COME OUT WITH WHAT EVERYONE IS THINKING :D

hi grand secetry remember me *waves*:p

No.

[spock]

ok. so lets have a re-cap.

Jimmy Savile was seen driving away from "NEAR" the scene of one of the yorkshire rippers murders.
this was documented in the Rippers case notes.
The only photo of the ripper since his imprisonment was with Jimmy Savile.
and they are good friends.
Jimmy does a lot of work for charity. in fact. his whole public life is about working for charity.
He knows a lot of influential people and has access to the Queen, Maggie T, Charles and Di, Andrew and Fergie etc
he also had to stay in a house with his dead mother for days until the ground thawed enough to dig the grave.
This started the necrophilia rumours in the BBC, where he also confessed to hating children.

But Jimmy has never been convicted of anything?
He has even been accused of being a decent yorkshireman. :rolleyes:
but no charges were ever brought.


Grand sec.
your first post in this thread where you said it wasn't jimmy with the Ripper.
before you had even looked!?
that gives you away. as you don't usually make it out of the masons section.
Sometimes i like you because you come across as a very honourable man.
you take the time to explain stuff....as long as people have been curtious to you.
but I don't feel like I can trust you.

[spock]

been posted before but worth a watch.

BBC: When Louis Met Jimmy Savile - Zero Tolerance - YouTube

I recon he is deffo a bit darker than his Jim'll fix it DJ persona.
He even calls himself the Godfather in the louis theroux film.
but i doubt he is as bad as some make out.
although if he was. it wouldn't surprise me. at all.
If the necro rumours were started just because was loyal enough that he sayed with his Mum's body until she could be buried.
then that is out of order.

no one seems to have any evidence of him being a real bad man. so he really is a fixer.....or he really is a decent bloke.
joining the dots is one thing. theorising possibilities is another.



He's deffo odd tho. but that's why people liked him in the first place......isn't it?

[nofuture]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1329332/Jimmy-Savile-Prince-Charles-saucy-French-maids.html

[butlincat]

JERSEY:Children were loaned to rich paedophile yachtsmen
CHILDREN from the Jersey House of Horrors were loaned to rich paedophile yachtsmen as galley SEX SLAVES, a News of the World investigation reveals.
The youngsters were told by care staff the boat rides were treats—only to be assaulted and RAPED at sea by pervert toffs.

Details of the sick attacks emerged as we discovered even more blood has been found in a bath in the dungeon underneath the Haut de la Garenne home—and in the drains. And our reporters have been told how builders on renovations at the home were urged by staff to BURN any bones they dug up.
We also uncover the full extent of the dark forces of corruption hampering the police investigation. We can reveal worried cops feel under so much pressure over the abuse allegations they are preparing to BYPASS Jersey’s own legal system and hand their evidence to our government.
This could include files on up to seven social workers and carers who worked at the sinister home—including one nicknamed the ‘pinball wizard’ who HURLED kids against the walls to see how far they would BOUNCE. At least two previous senior employees of children’s services on the island are also under investigation despite the attempts of corrupt former policemen, politicians and businessmen to scupper the inquiry.
We understand that two weeks ago Jersey ministers SECRETLY VOTED to have senior police investigator Lenny Harper removed from the case because they believed he was too open with the media. But the Chief of Police Graham Power refused.
Explosive -A source told us: “Such important figures have been implicated in the cover-up of abuse on the island that the cops feel the evidence should now be passed to the British government
“The latest revelations are explosive. It is going to cause massive waves within the political and legal world and could bring the whole of Jersey’s infrastructure crashing down.” One of the most serious lines of inquiry in the investigation is that children were regularly loaned to wealthy yachtsmen to “do with them what they chose for the day,” according to our source close to the investigation.
Haut de la Garenne staff described the trips as a treat for children who spent long hours cooped up at the home. But in reality the kids were subjected to the vilest sexual abuse on board the luxury boats. Our source said: “The allegations about the yachting community have come in from a number of different people. It is a very strong line of inquiry and when the evidence is made public people will be horrified.” Meanwhile about a dozen bones found at the home have been sent to a DNA lab to find out how old they are —yet some bone fragments were too burnt to be tested.
Police have taken statements from local builders who were told: “If you find bones, get rid of them or burn them.” New blood spots have been discovered in cracks in a concrete bath in the underground chamber and have also been sent for tests and sniffer dogs trained to find blood have found scents in the drains underneath.
Forensic officers are now focusing on the wooden trapdoor leading to a second torture cellar in a bid to extract DNA or fingerprints. Our source said: “Detectives are doing everything they can to ensure every scrap of evidence is properly investigated. They are very aware that the home dates back to 1856 and some of these bones could be very old.
“This is going to be a long process but the officers have been presented with so many accounts of abuse and cover-ups it is crucial we get answers. People disclosing the abuse have been easy to ignore but finally they are getting a chance to be taken seriously.” The horrors being uncovered at Haut de la Garenne have revealed a Jersey tourists have never seen.
Former abused care home residents claim what happened to them has been covered up by those in high office, desperate not to tarnish Jersey’s good name or risk politicians in London reducing their power over the tiny, but extremely wealthy, island. Although Jersey is part of the British Isles and under the Queen’s rule, it has a separate government system dating back to King John’s reign, and makes its own rules and laws.
Jersey’s 53-member parliament has no political parties. Its politicians, judges, policemen and business leaders come from a small elite—often linked by friendship or family. The island’s equivalent of our Commons Speaker is also its top judge—so the system of checks and balances between politics and the law we have in the UK is almost non-existent.
This is a place where the authorities allowed 43-year-old convicted paedophile Roger Holland to stand for election as an honorary constable officer— similar to a special cop in the UK, but with more powers. They knew that six years earlier he had indecently assaulted a mentally impaired 14-year-old girl and admitted molesting another girl. But he got the job and in 1997 rose to become vingtenier—the second most senior cop on the island’s volunteer force.
In 2001 he was jailed for indecently assaulting a young girl in the back of a police van. “Jersey has for too long been a law unto itself—it is time the truth came out,” says our source. Among those fighting for that is ex-health minister Senator Stuart Syvret, who resigned over the cover-up and has given statements to police claiming two senior legal figures were involved in the abuse.
Mr Syvret said: “I have given formal statements to the police concerning a number of establishment individuals. Officers I have spoken to are from a force external to Jersey police at the request of Jersey police.” Solicitor Nick le Cornu is also demanding change. “Jersey’s political class have for 60 years been ignoring and covering up poverty and injustice,” he claimed.
Police investigator Lenny Harper, an outsider from Northern Ireland, was the target of a hate campaign— including threats to torch his house —after a string of cops were sacked for corruption. Colleagues say Harper, 56, laughed it off, saying: “I had the IRA on my tail for years—so a few disgruntled people are not going to deter me from doing my job.” Now he’s facing the biggest test of his career—on the island of fear.
Edward Heath(former PM of the UK) and sir Jimmy Saville

IT IS ALLEGED – He is very well known for his perverted abuse of young boys. A source spoke to one of his victims and he said about others who were present, and more important, who was supplying the children to him. The person bringing children for him to abuse is Sir Jimmy Saville. He was seen by the witness, victim, taking young boys onboard Heaths yacht the morning cloud when they were at party conference. Saville is known for supplying a number of high profile MP’s with children for them to sexually abuse.
http://www.chris-uk.org/another-cover-up/jerseychildren-were-loaned-to-rich-paedophile-yachtsmen

[andyh]

I've posted quite a bit about Jimmy Savile on various threads and here he is again, in another dubious situation, this time introducing the Yorkshire Ripper to Frank Bruno, as you do

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3576/snn2501asutcliffe740914.jpg

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2270180.ece

Check out Bruno's handshake. I know fuck all about Masons, but the grip seems pretty stylized to me, perhaps someone who knows more (not an actual Mason, as they're inherently dishonest and untrustworthy, no offence :)) could shed some light?

I know it all seems trivial and far-fetched, it's just a simple DJ and boxer meeting a serial killer for some reason, and I'm a world a way from proving any case against Savile, but there's so much about the bloke that doesn't add up and this "story" is just so bizarre

A few things about Jimmy Savile, a simple working-class DJ from a Leeds mining family

- He has both a Royal and Papal knighthood (Order of St. Gregory the Great)

- He is a Knights Hospitaller (also known as the Sovereign Military Hospitaller Order of St. John of Jerusalem of Rhodes and of Malta, Order of St. John, Knights of Malta, and Chevaliers of Malta)

- He's an "Esteemed Friend of Israel", according to his Wiki page, whatever that is

- In a June 08 interview with Esquire, Savile boasted of his closeness with Royalty and Prime Ministers

- How he gave marriage guidance to Prince Andrew at the behest of the Duke of Edinburgh

- How Princess Diana described him as "a mentor to Charles"

- How he addressed the Israeli cabinet, the Knesset, and told them that they'd "forgotten how to be Jewish"

- He shares his very unusual surname with West Yorkshire's most elite family. Leeds' coat-of-arms, which depicts three owls, is based on the Savile family crest and Sir William Savile, a royalist, was amazingly freed by Sir Thomas Fairfax (a high-ranking Mason) after losing a battle in Leeds during the Civil War. Officially, Jimmy is no relation

- There is an injunction in place against News International prohibiting them from publishing photos of Jimmy at Haute de la Garenne, the child abuse scandal home in Jersey

- In his own words, Jimmy is, "the éminence grise: the grey, shadowy figure in the background.”

And that's all without getting into the unsavoury rumours about his sex life

Perhaps I'm making something out of nothing but, as I say, his story just doesn't add up

More on Savile, once described as "the most jewish non-jew you could ever meet":
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18681&highlight=savile&page=3
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3868024.ece

My dad used to know Saville a long time ago when he worked at Stoke Manderville. He says he was a c*nt then aswell so nothings changed I spose :)

[humanspirit]

The news article is so bizzare?

Even the league of gentlemen comedy writers couldnt write a sketch as weird as this reality.

:confused:

[white horse]

wtf this thread is bizzaro land
Jimmy Saville

ha ha ha

I have no comment.

Apparantly not! :rolleyes:

[white horse]

I'm very surprised no-one has mentioned Jimmy molesting a very young Coleen Nolan live on Top of the Pops. The footage has been shown on a tv documentary many times, during which the Nolan sisters talk about how furious they were at the old creep putting his hands all over their little sister.

So here we have video evidence of 'Sir' Jimmy acting in a sexually inapropriate way to a young girl (I think she was barely 16 at the time).

I remember seeing that - I was quite shocked!

Charity work my arse, the guy is a cunt.


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4161/is_20081214/ai_n31133726/pg_2/?tag=content;col1

Jim'll feel it
Sunday Mirror, Dec 14, 2008 | by PETER ROBERTSON


THIS is the moment when a normally mild-mannered Nolan sister almost turned nasty.

Coleen Nolan revealed the horror she felt when she was intimately cuddled by TV presenter Jimmy Savile as a young teenager on Top Of The Pops.

Now aged 43 and a panelist on ITV1's Loose Women, Coleen says Maureen, Anne, Bernie and Linda - performing as The Nolan Sisters - glowered at the then 53-year old Savile as he held Coleen tightly under her right breast. Footage of the incident was shown on a BBC2 documentary We Are Family, which was broadcast on Saturday, December 6.

Coleen, who had been an audience guest on that 1979 edition of TOTP, a year before joining her family's group, said: "I stood next to Jimmy.

"I was 14, and he was all over me.

"I could see my sisters glaring: 'You touch her and we'll kill you!' "And they would have."
Copyright 2008 MGN LTD
Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning Company. All rights Reserved.





nolans documentry - YouTube

from about 3.30 onwards

[chaste]

1 in 50 people in the UK do work for charities. That's over a million people.

Re-think time for kiwimaj.

Some narcissists are ostentatiously generous – they donate to charity, lavish gifts on their closest, abundantly provide for their nearest and dearest, and, in general, are open-handed and unstintingly benevolent. How can this be reconciled with the pronounced lack of empathy and with the pernicious self-preoccupation that is so typical of narcissists?

The act of giving enhances the narcissist's sense of omnipotence, his fantastic grandiosity, and the contempt he holds for others. It is easy to feel superior to the supplicating recipients of one's largesse. Narcissistic altruism is about exerting control and maintaining it by fostering dependence in the beneficiaries.

But narcissists give for other reasons as well.

The narcissist flaunts his charitable nature as a bait. He impresses others with his selflessness and kindness and thus lures them into his lair, entraps them, and manipulates and brainwashes them into subservient compliance and obsequious collaboration. People are attracted to the narcissist's larger than life posture – only to discover his true personality traits when it is far too late. "Give a little to take a lot" – is the narcissist's creed.

This does not prevent the narcissist from assuming the role of the exploited victim. Narcissists always complain that life and people are unfair to them and that they invest far more than their "share of the profit". The narcissist feels that he is the sacrificial lamb, the scapegoat, and that his relationships are asymmetric and imbalanced. "She gets out of our marriage far more than I do" – is a common refrain. Or: "I do all the work around here – and they get all the perks and benefits!"

Faced with such (mis)perceived injustice – and once the relationship is clinched and the victim is "hooked" – the narcissist tries to minimise his contributions. He regards his input as a contractual maintenance chore and the unpleasant and inevitable price he has to pay for his Narcissistic Supply.

After many years of feeling deprived and wronged, some narcissists lapse into "sadistic generosity" or "sadistic altruism". They use their giving as a weapon to taunt and torment the needy and to humiliate them. In the distorted thinking of the narcissist, donating money gives him the right and license to hurt, chastise, criticise, and berate the recipient. His generosity, feels the narcissist, elevates him to a higher moral ground.

Most narcissists confine their giving to money and material goods. Their munificence is an abusive defence mechanism, intended to avoid real intimacy. Their "big-hearted" charity renders all their relationships – even with their spouses and children – "business-like", structured, limited, minimal, non-emotional, unambiguous, and non-ambivalent. By doling out bounteously, the narcissist "knows where he stands" and does not feel threatened by demands for commitment, emotional investment, empathy, or intimacy.

In the narcissist's wasteland of a life, even his benevolence is spiteful, sadistic, punitive, and distancing.

http://samvak.tripod.com/journal81.html


P.S. Coleen Nolan seemed to think she was underage when she recounted the non-consensual incident with disgust.

[sparkplug]

Shameless bump considering todays news.

[warwick]

Cheers, this forum seemed to be a gem of information back then.

[diamond dogs]

Cheers, this forum seemed to be a gem of information back then.

I mine of info and worth a read..

I dread to think what this man did in his lifetime and I for one certainly will not be shedding an ounce of sympathy for him..a high ranker of the elite!

On a brighter note...apparently JJB sports might now have to call in the receivers...

[dantesrevival]

The interesting thing is why do we know nearly nothing about him, why such powerful friends, and don't start with the Jew shit cos that don't explain it.

[warwick]

I mine of info and worth a read..

I dread to think what this man did in his lifetime and I for one certainly will not be shedding an ounce of sympathy for him..a high ranker of the elite!

Perhaps one of the many illegitimate elite offspring dotted about?

[infidelyork]

He once ran over my fathers foot in Scarborough in his rolls Royce and didn't stop. Never liked him since then.

[emerald]

The dude died meantime. More here:

JIMMY SAVILLE&THE BOYS

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/10/jimmy-savile-and-boys.html

Agree he was a fucking paedo.

[dhama_initiative]

someone on another forum i read said he was creepy and fondly to her at age 14 in the 70s.

[uberstate]

The interesting thing is why do we know nearly nothing about him, why such powerful friends, and don't start with the Jew shit cos that don't explain it.

I think he manages to keep his privacy quite tight.

I watched the Louis met Jimmy documentary and to be honest he does seem like a private person, he protects his own (and others) privacy which is not a bad thing in my view, he does display some characteristics of being a typical bachelor, I dont know why but I always think of Benny Hill too, he was another one set in his ways but he lived with fewer luxuries even though he could afford them. I think people like this live on their own principles. They both kept shrines of their mothers too.

[rhydra]

Didn't he mummify his mother or something or is that way off the track? :confused:

[dhama_initiative]

no he ate her body

[citroen999]

Jimmy Jangle - YouTube

the jimmy saville song ... very immature but funny!!

lol :D:D:D:D

[wonderfullife]

He was a pedo and I have no qualms in saying this.
He used to also go to broadmoor a lot and raise money for the hospital but there is more to this than meets the eye that's for sure. he did not just frequent Jersey but aso other children's homes and I am sure he was a freemason.

[dhama_initiative]

He was a guy with big conections who intimidated people, whether or not the other wild stuff is true that is for sure.

[stillwakingup]

I am depressed,is no one what you think???:(

[pheony]

I am depressed,is no one what you think???:(

Probably not....and when you realise this, you will be a lot happier.:)

[white horse]

He once ran over my fathers foot in Scarborough in his rolls Royce and didn't stop. Never liked him since then.

OMG I laughed so hard I spat tea on my monitor haa haaa haaar haa that is hilarious!

(Ooops actually, I mean, as well, was your dad ok? :o )

[dawnbreak]

from the sun newspaper

'The real love of his life was his mum Agnes who he affectionately called "the Duchess". She died in 1973 aged 82.

He famously kept her clothes — cementing his reputation as a bit of an eccentric. '


Eccentric??? hahahahahaha

[stillwakingup]

Probably not....and when you realise this, you will be a lot happier.:)

I am not.I am even more depressed now!

[wonderfullife]

I am not.I am even more depressed now!

As Neo said "They do great noodles there......"
No nothing or anyone is what they seem.

[white horse]

As Neo said "They do great noodles there......"
No nothing or anyone is what they seem.

It is a veritable mindfuck.

[nofuture]

Walton Hop guy wasn't he?

[infidelyork]

(Ooops actually, I mean, as well, was your dad ok? :o )

Aside from him constantly 'entertaining me' with his story of how Jimmy Saville once drove over his foot, he's fine..... :rolleyes:

I'm just hoping Russell Grant runs him over in a tractor or something so he can change his story...

[magenta_moonshadow]

I'm just hoping Russell Grant runs him over in a tractor or something so he can change his story...

LOL! :D Your poor dad! :p

[coffeehead]

:eek: he's always given me the creeps,

here are 2 links i found :mad:

http://www.thelawyer.com/jimmy-savile-turns-to-fox-hayes-for-action-against-the-sun/131780.article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-518672/Haut-la-Garenne-Why-abuse-level-happen-again.html

[dawnbreak]

Aside from him constantly 'entertaining me' with his story of how Jimmy Saville once drove over his foot, he's fine..... :rolleyes:

I'm just hoping Russell Grant runs him over in a tractor or something so he can change his story...

oh come on ! it should at least be David Icke giving him a chinese burn :)

[nofuture]

He also once told me that if I ever got in any trouble, then he knew “some very bad people who should be able to put whoever it is in hospital”.


Sir Jim once told me a newspaper put “a team” on him for a year to find skeletons in his closet.

He met the Editor at a party, who told him: “You are a hard man to catch, Jim.”

He replied: “Then don’t go fishing in an empty lake.”

Read more: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/10/29/my-friend-jimmy-savile-115875-23524031/#ixzz1cJAIrXAA

[uberstate]

It is a veritable mindfuck.

Now then, now then!

[nofuture]

I've posted quite a bit about Jimmy Savile on various threads and here he is again, in another dubious situation, this time introducing the Yorkshire Ripper to Frank Bruno, as you do

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3576/snn2501asutcliffe740914.jpg

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2270180.ece



- He shares his very unusual surname with West Yorkshire's most elite family. Leeds' coat-of-arms, which depicts three owls, is based on the Savile family crest and Sir William Savile, a royalist, was amazingly freed by Sir Thomas Fairfax (a high-ranking Mason) after losing a battle in Leeds during the Civil War. Officially, Jimmy is no relation


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18681&highlight=savile&page=3
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article3868024.ece


Ironically there's a Viz strip called Jimmy Savile the Owl. :eek:

[unsyatisfied]

All I will say is this, from very personal experience..

If you have a man who is overly obsessed with the mother figure and lives with her for most of his adult life, without having any other relationship, no children, no ex partners that you can name or remember..then there is def some questions with regards to their true nature..

I don't care how much so called "charity work" they do, it's often times a cover, a facade for the fact that they are as evil as f**k..

I have seen this time and time again, some weird s**t to do with the mother figure and sexually abusing children...

How come JS can get all sorts of commendations and awards from the reptilians, for doing what exactly.....charity work? And how come he is still alive, looking very sprightly, I have heard that longevity can be down to child sacrifice, drinking the blood of young children to keep 'em young...

So why exactly does a nasty, ugly looking specimen get a major prime time TV show involving...children...and why exactly does he need to put in place a gagging order with regards to him visiting the Jersey care home where lots of kids were abused and murdered??...hmmm...let me think now...

..does 2 and 2 really add up to4? NO, of course it doesn't, not especially if you are the ones protecting the paedo known as Jimmy Saville !


Nice...:eek:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00203/ed_imgSNN2329C_265_203921a.jpg

:eek:

[diamond dogs]

http://www.dogpile.co.uk/clickserver/_iceUrlFlag=1?rawURL=http%3A%2F%2Fnowmagazine.medi a.ipcdigital.co.uk%2F11140%7C000001253%7Ceda1_orh1 00000w220_jimmy.jpg&0=&1=0&4=92.24.143.155&5=92.24.143.155&9=40069890fa6047638b2cbdb49a97cc01&10=1&11=uk.dogpl&13=search&14=372380&15=main-title&17=34&18=34&19=0&20=0&21=34&22=KmoRPFQGm80%3D&23=0&40=YzT6yGZS5u2ju6JmEM4ICQ%3D%3D&_IceUrl=true

Also born on 31st Oct

[seeking_truth_lpool]

I heard Old Jimmy liked to get his groupies (or "special," fans) to bath themselves in Ice water before getting inbetween the sheets!

Now then! Now then!

[emerald]

"Death of a Showman: Jimmy Saville 1926-2011"

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=36860

[griffinman]

I heard he used to deliver young boys to illuminati clients...

"How's about thats then? top quality...oooOOOUUUUuuuu oooooOOOOOoooOO"

[agent of the free]

This is Frank Bruno at his initiation on 22nd November 1992 to the Water Rats masonic lodge.

This now explains the photograph of Frank and the Yorkshire rippers Masonic handshake in front of Jimmy Savile.

Question is when did the Yorkshire Ripper become a Mason?

Was he a Mason when he started his killing spree?

Did the Masons order the sacrifice of young women?


http://www.bertweedon.com/graphics/bert+bruno.jpg

[bazil brazeel]

This is Frank Bruno at his initiation on 22nd November 1992 to the Water Rats masonic lodge.

This now explains the photograph of Frank and the Yorkshire rippers Masonic handshake in front of Jimmy Savile.

Question is when did the Yorkshire Ripper become a Mason?

Was he a Mason when he started his killing spree?

Did the Masons order the sacrifice of young women?


http://www.bertweedon.com/graphics/bert+bruno.jpg




Thanx for posting, showed the image of the ripper with bruno and savile to a mate. He claims its not suttcliffe could you provide any proof it was.

[warwick]

This is Frank Bruno at his initiation on 22nd November 1992 to the Water Rats masonic lodge.

This now explains the photograph of Frank and the Yorkshire rippers Masonic handshake in front of Jimmy Savile.

Question is when did the Yorkshire Ripper become a Mason?

Was he a Mason when he started his killing spree?

Did the Masons order the sacrifice of young women?


http://www.bertweedon.com/graphics/bert+bruno.jpg
Can you point out where on that site the picture is so I can read the caption please.
http://www.bertweedon.com/
???
You sure that's him, looks like him but can't be sure...

[agent of the free]

Duke of Kent

How many types of handshake can 1 man have


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQCTOLLDSpLaE11Dxq6NO3cSiSxLVfSx jAq6pRGsnXV476yDDSZ


http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXM7xXPRFSuZVSbdvwszMhNbWEXUjMB W3sDgBuN8ddjlVXFH2X7Q

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTs1TDmH7PM_hEIoonTsuy_Xeowr8eWY X870X50gFpv4hXpP9Xi


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5cK3dJOQqCpH7GgFwOGh8A7uoaUMsQ 4IOCfzHk8I3YDyOdJ9f


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNkHLgZpZJK5nGzL_yboOKRfWDLU95x rKmz2OzLZM1xfZ7fZDb

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8bTjggCP_WQ-8Nj-0NAk-DAqHOyZiJnUpzTR2Wo7iG8XDxHE3

[agent of the free]

Can you point out where on that site the picture is so I can read the caption please.
http://www.bertweedon.com/
???
You sure that's him, looks like him but can't be sure...




You can find him here http://www.bertweedon.com/charities.htm

[agent of the free]

Thanx for posting, showed the image of the ripper with bruno and savile to a mate. He claims its not suttcliffe could you provide any proof it was.


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2270180.ece

Why would the sun take this picture in 2001 and then not release it until 2009

I think you would be best to enquire with the Sun newspaper as to weather or not it is Sutcliffe but i should imagine it is as Jimmy worked at Broadmoor.

[warwick]

Thanx for posting, showed the image of the ripper with bruno and savile to a mate. He claims its not suttcliffe could you provide any proof it was.
OP has a sun article where it first appeared I believe;)

[bazil brazeel]

Thanx for the link guys.

[agent of the free]

OP has a sun article where it first appeared I believe;)



Also in the photo notice how Jimmy is wearing a jumper with capital gold on it and the number 154 the rest is blocked by the handshake to the normal public they would assume the jumper is for a radio station but to a Mason i believe it was a hint to invest in a Canadian Gold mining company of the same name just a theory but would be interesting to see which British investors invested in the company in 2009

[warwick]

You can find him here http://www.bertweedon.com/charities.htm

Thanks, makes you wonder doesn't it.

[diamond dogs]

You can find him here http://www.bertweedon.com/charities.htm

Also in the photo notice how Jimmy is wearing a jumper with capital gold on it and the number 154 the rest is blocked by the handshake to the normal public they would assume the jumper is for a radio station but to a Mason i believe it was a hint to invest in a Canadian Gold mining company of the same name just a theory but would be interesting to see which British investors invested in the company in 2009

Or Capital G

http://cs.infospace.com/ClickHandler.ashx?ru=http%3a%2f%2ftheamericanmercu ry.org%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2010%2f09%2fmasons.jpg&ld=20111121&ap=8&app=1&c=uk.dogpl&s=dogpileuk&coi=372380&cop=main-title&euip=2.97.210.206&npp=8&p=0&pp=0&pvaid=b524bd200af34916916b1fe10ceceab2&sid=1436735087.2982328660132.1321837834&vid=1436735087.2982328660132.1321558791.11&fcoi=417&fcop=topnav&fpid=27&ep=8&hash=A8CD6108B5DAB5D71E7319A591A4246F


Many thanks for the link.. a host of aptly named 'Rats' on the link..and interestingly a pic of Michael Barrymore there too another can of worms...hhhmmm

I do think there could well be a connection to Sutcliffe and Saville... I rememeber Icke stating at his Brixton talk that apparently there was 12 degrees above the 33' in freemasonry.. 'Sir' JS buried at 45' in his Gold coffin.. I dread to think what could be involved but if anyone fits the bill...

[cantata]

Welcome, agent of the free. Some very good info there... you are going to be worth your membership, I see. :) Enjoy it here.

Jimmy Saville was undoubtedly weird/odd/nasty to almost everyone who met him. His "pass card" comes from the fact that it is so incredibly difficult for people to explain how his weirdness/oddness/nastiness made their skins crawl. That women hid in toilets or wanted to shower after shaking his hand holds little to no sway with most people...

....And so it is that the voices of those who had dealings with him and know he was foul continue to hold no sway. T'is ever the way for victims, and they know it.

He won't be investigated. He left too much public information on his "charity work" for people to demand he be looked at more closely. It would be ungrateful and churlish, even unchristian and sinful to question or doubt such a Saint Of A Man... (Don't you just loooove "Saints"?).

And so those who had dealings with him much to close for any human comfort will go unheard.

Ho-hum. P.R. is a mighty barrier.

:(

But a big "Bless You" to all those who didn't find a "toilet in which to hide from Jimmy Saville, Kooky-Character-And-Charity-Worker-Extrordinaire".

[emerald]

"Jimmy Saville child sex claims investigated by the BBC days after star's death... but programme was axed

Newsnight story had been due to broadcast days before a Christmas special celebrating the star's life
Reporters interviewed three women who claimed he behaved inappropriately toward them as teenagers
Sir Jimmy's friends and relatives tell of their fury at decision to investigate the allegations

Sir Jimmy Saville was the subject of a two-month sex pest investigation by journalists from the BBC, it was claimed today.

Reporters from Newsnight launched a probe into allegations about inappropriate behaviour by the Jim'll Fix It legend towards schoolgirls just days after his death on October 29.

But they were eventually told to spike the story, which was due to be broadcast just days before a BBC1 Christmas special celebrating the presenter's life.

Newsnight journalists interviewed three women who met Sir Jimmy in the Seventies when, as presenter of Top Of The Pops, he was at the height of his fame, Sunday Mirror reported.

All three were teenage pupils at a school in Surrey which the broadcaster visited regularly as part of his charity work.

It is claimed that Sir Jimmy took girls there for rides in his car. Each of the women is said to have alleged that he had taken them out, individually, in his car and behaved inappropriately towards them.

One of the women, who is now in her 50s, agreed to waive her anonymity and allow herself to be interviewed by Newsnight reporters on camera, the Sunday Mirror said.

The investigation was launched after journalists for the flagship BBC news programme discovered that complaints about Sir Jimmy were made to Surrey police in 2007 - nearly 40 years after the incidents were alleged to have taken place.

Police carried out their own investigation at the time, but the Crown Prosecution Service was not convinced there was enough evidence to take action against the star.

A BBC source told the Sunday Mirror that journalists hoped to establish the truth of the claims and the details of the police investigation by interviewing the three women.

But senior figures in the corporation then told reporters to scrap the report, which would have clashed with a Boxing Day Jim'll Fix It tribute programme hosted by Shane Richie.

he decision to spike the story is said to have angered many staff, who had spent months working on the report.

'Someone, somewhere should have realised that a report trying to uncover a dark side of one of the BBC’s favourite sons was a silly thing to do,' the source told the Sunday Mirror.

Surrey Police confirmed that allegations had been made and investigated, and a CPS spokesman said a reviewing lawyer had advised officers a lack of evidence meant no action could be taken.

Sir Jimmy's friends and family were upset at the revelations regarding the investigation.

The star's niece, Janet Humble accused Newsnight of 'muck-raking'. She told the Sunday Mirror: 'As a family we just wish Sir Jim could be left to rest in peace.'

Stephen Purdew, Sir Jimmy's friend of 30 years, who helped to organise his funeral, said: 'These are allegations from 40 years ago. He’s not even alive to defend himself.'

The BBC yesterday said its reporters were investigating alleged failings within the CPS, but axed the report as they did not have enough proof to run the story."

[redman]

Stephen Purdew, Sir Jimmy's friend of 30 years, who helped to organise his funeral, said: 'These are allegations from 40 years ago. He’s not even alive to defend himself.'






And when he was alive to defend himself when questioned over his presence at that home in Jersey, he said he had never been there before. Well we know he was there.

Lying scum bag.

[fairyprincess]

Just been going through this thread. I'm I the only one how thinks sir Jimmy tick a lot of the "shape-shifting lizard" boxes?

[skymonkey]

I know a few things too that I won't mention. Not a savoury character!

[stillwakingup]

I know a few things too that I won't mention. Not a savoury character!

why not?:D

[jimo]

There was an email doing the rounds a few years ago that claimed to be a transcript of an out-take from Jimmy Saville's appearance on Have I Got News For You (from the days when Angus Deayton was still hosting it). I have no idea if it's genuine or not.

Basically Ian Hislop confronts Savile with certain "allegations" and Savile doesn't deny them. Paul Merton then launches into a four-letter tirade directed at Savile.

Put "Jimmy Savile Have I Got News For You Transcript" into Google and you'll probably find it.

[diamondgeezer]

JIMMY SAVILLE, JINGLE JANGLE JEWELLERY - YouTube

[thecatsmeow]

No doubt he would have a lesser opinion of you, except that he is a gentleman, who would not use such filthy language, even in your case.

Jimmy has achieved a great deal in his life. He is far from being a person from a privileged background. He started his working life down a pit digging coal.

He succeeded as a very hard working and talented disk jockey in the 1950's, and ever since he has shared his good fortune with others who are less well off than himself.

Not least of which is the raising of many millions of pounds for worthwhile charities, thousands of hours of unpaid volunteer work, especially for the disabled at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, for the mentally ill such as yourself, the patients at Broadmoor Mental Hospital, Park Prewitt Mental Hospital, Basingstoke General Hospital, Leeds General Infirmary and St James's Children's Hospital.

MOD EDIT: Insult removed

Yes! Paedophile's, in general, tend to be pillar's of society! :mad:

[motox]

There was an email doing the rounds a few years ago that claimed to be a transcript of an out-take from Jimmy Saville's appearance on Have I Got News For You (from the days when Angus Deayton was still hosting it). I have no idea if it's genuine or not.

Basically Ian Hislop confronts Savile with certain "allegations" and Savile doesn't deny them. Paul Merton then launches into a four-letter tirade directed at Savile.

Put "Jimmy Savile Have I Got News For You Transcript" into Google and you'll probably find it.

this one Apparently, this was actually recorded during the last series of "Have I Got
News For You" when Jimmy Saville was a guest on Paul Merton's team.
Incredibly, it didn't make our screens. (It seems that Mr. Merton doesn't
like Mr. Saville very much)

Out-take 3:09'36
During the headline round:
DEAYTON: You used to be a wrestler didn't you?
SAVILLE: I still am.
DEAYTON: Are you?
SAVILLE: I'm feared in every girls' school in the country.
(Audience laugh)
DEAYTON: Yeah, I've heard about that.
SAVILLE: What have you heard?
DEAYTON: I've...
MERTON: Something about a cunt with a rancid, pus-filled cock.
(Huge audience laugh; Awkward pause)
SAVILLE: I advise you to wash your mouth out, my friend...
MERTON: That's what she had to do! (Audience laughs)
HISLOP: Weren't you leaving money in phone boxes or something?
(Saville glares at him) Or have I got completely the wrong end of the...
SAVILLE: (To Deayton, heavily) The question you asked was about wrestling.
DEAYTON: Yes. And then you mentioned girls' schools. I don't know whe...
SAVILLE: Well I understood this was a comedy programme. I realise now how wrong I was. (Audience laugh)
DEAYTON: So were you a professional wrestler?
SAVILLE: Yes I was.
DEAYTON: (To audience) Glad we got that cleared up.(Pulls face; audience giggles)
HISLOP: Feared by every girls' school in the country...
SAVILLE: That's right.
MERTON: Due to having a rancid, pus-filled cock.(Huge audience laugh)
DEAYTON: Erm...
HISLOP: You're on top form tonight, Paul...
SAVILLE: (Strangely) I'm...this is not what I...
FLOOR MANAGER: (OOV) OK, do you...(inaudible section)...shall we, for pick-ups...
MERTON: I'm terribly sorry. I don't know what came over me.
SAVILLE: A pus-filled cock, I imagine. (Shocked audience laugh)
MERTON: Oh, it's nice to see you joining in. We'd been waiting for you, you sad senile old shitter. (Audience appears to do double-take)
DEAYTON: I think we...d-d-you you want to apologise to our guest, Paul?
MERTON: Sorry, I do apologise. Sir senile old shitter, is what I meant to say.
(Audience laugh; pause) Sir senile old shitter...who fucks minors.
(Audience unrest)
HISLOP: Sorry, I'm just looking at our lawyer again. (Waves) Hello!
(Audience laughs)
DEAYTON: Shall we get back on course with this, or sha...
SAVILLE: I do fuck miners, that's quite correct. I have always done so. They can do the most wonderful things with cigars. The coal...
MERTON: What, they stick them up your senile, pus-filled arse?
(Audience laughs)
FLOOR MANAGER: (OOV): Come on...I'm getting an ear-bashing here. It's...
MERTON: Oh they want to continue. Sorry, I'll contain myself. Carry on...
DEAYTON: Right (Pause) You used to be a professional wrestler didn't you?
(Huge audience laugh)
SAVILLE: (Calmly) I did.
DEAYTON: You didn't have a nickname or anything?
SAVILLE: Yes - 'Loser'. (Audience laughs)
___________________________________
Out-take 4: 21'20
Following a discussion about caravans:
DEAYTON: Last month, Roger Moore sold his luxury caravan in Malta. Asked by the...
MERTON: I visited your caravan the other week, Jimmy.
SAVILLE: Did you really?
MERTON: Oh yes. Interesting what you can find, if you have a bit of a poke.
(Audience laugh)
HISLOP: He just told you, it was twelve years ago...
SAVILLE: No, I lived in it for twelve years.
MERTON: And fucked twelve year olds. (Audience laugh)
DEAYTON: Here we go again...I'll be backstage if anyone wants me.
MERTON: (Indicating Saville) That's what you said to the kids on your show, wasn't it?
(Audience laugh)
SAVILLE: No, they never did want me.
HISLOP: Not even Sarah Cornley?
SAVILLE: She was an exception.
DEAYTON: Who's Sarah Cornley?
SAVILLE: Sarah Cornley is...
HISLOP: About fifteen grand in damages, wasn't she?
(Uncertain audience laugh)
SAVILLE: That's right.
HISLOP: So if I was going to mention that you threatened to break her arm if she said anything...
SAVILLE: You'd be very wrong. (Pause) I said I'd break both her arms.
(Audience unease)
MERTON: Fucking hell. I mean, you're just sitting there, all shell suit and cigar wearing those fucking...I don't know what they are.
SAVILLE: Chrome-plated SC-700 sun-visors, these are. Sent to me by...
MERTON: We don't give a shit. Ladies and gentlemen, Sir James Saville OBE. Jim has fixed it for me to have my arms broken. Meet this depressing old fucked up cunt of a fucker on television who's riddled with cancer and fucking pubic lice.
HISLOP: (To lawyer again) Hello! (Audience laughs)
MERTON: Christ, I mean ha ha, big fucking joke - the fucking lawyers are involved, tee hee. It doesn't change anything.
DEAYTON: (Visibly out of character) Do you wanna stop, or...?
MERTON: No I don't fucking want to stop. It's all shit! You'll expect a comedy walkout in a minute, won't you? I mean, big bloody joke - I'm going to quote Shakespeare in a minute, how fucking out of character. And Ian knows about football - oh my fucking sides.
SAVILLE: You've never fucked anyone in your life, boy.
MERTON: Oh fuck off...
FLOOR MANAGER: (OOV) ...About five minutes, just to...(Phil Davey enters)
PHIL DAVEY: OK, well top that as they say. You're looking troubled by that, aren't you mate? I tell you, I came back from Amsterdam recently...
RECORDING PLACED ON STAND-BY; CUTS BACK TO CLOSE-UP OF DEAYTON
AWAITING HIS CUE
DEAYTON: OK. Second time lucky. (Pause) Last month, Roger Moore sold his luxury caravan in Malta. Asked by the New York Times about his relaxed acting style...

[vegan_on_the_land]

This looks like a hoax. I don't believe the allegations against the man. He couldn't have survived in such a public life if they were true.

If he was as powerful and well connected as some people say and could silence accusations or could sue people, why weren't Merton and Hislop sacked or sued? If he was connected to some powerful group, of which the BBC is a mouthpiece, why are Merton and Hislop still in the same job? Angus Deayton was sacked for some peccadillos a few years later. Surely, Merton and Hislop would have been given the elbow for what they said - to such a powerfully connected man.

If this did take place it shows that he wasn't powerfully connected.

If it did take place, why did he sit there for another 20 minutes?

Why didn't Paul Merton get a visit some time later from a couple of blokes carrying pickaxe handles?

It doesn't ring true.

[thesufi]

this one Apparently, this was actually recorded during the last series of "Have I Got
News For You" when Jimmy Saville was a guest on Paul Merton's team.
Incredibly, it didn't make our screens. (It seems that Mr. Merton doesn't
like Mr. Saville very much)

Out-take 3:09'36
During the headline round:
DEAYTON: You used to be a wrestler didn't you?
SAVILLE: I still am.
DEAYTON: Are you?
SAVILLE: I'm feared in every girls' school in the country.
(Audience laugh)
DEAYTON: Yeah, I've heard about that.
SAVILLE: What have you heard?
DEAYTON: I've...
MERTON: Something about a cunt with a rancid, pus-filled cock.
(Huge audience laugh; Awkward pause)
SAVILLE: I advise you to wash your mouth out, my friend...
MERTON: That's what she had to do! (Audience laughs)
HISLOP: Weren't you leaving money in phone boxes or something?
(Saville glares at him) Or have I got completely the wrong end of the...
SAVILLE: (To Deayton, heavily) The question you asked was about wrestling.
DEAYTON: Yes. And then you mentioned girls' schools. I don't know whe...
SAVILLE: Well I understood this was a comedy programme. I realise now how wrong I was. (Audience laugh)
DEAYTON: So were you a professional wrestler?
SAVILLE: Yes I was.
DEAYTON: (To audience) Glad we got that cleared up.(Pulls face; audience giggles)
HISLOP: Feared by every girls' school in the country...
SAVILLE: That's right.
MERTON: Due to having a rancid, pus-filled cock.(Huge audience laugh)
DEAYTON: Erm...
HISLOP: You're on top form tonight, Paul...
SAVILLE: (Strangely) I'm...this is not what I...
FLOOR MANAGER: (OOV) OK, do you...(inaudible section)...shall we, for pick-ups...
MERTON: I'm terribly sorry. I don't know what came over me.
SAVILLE: A pus-filled cock, I imagine. (Shocked audience laugh)
MERTON: Oh, it's nice to see you joining in. We'd been waiting for you, you sad senile old shitter. (Audience appears to do double-take)
DEAYTON: I think we...d-d-you you want to apologise to our guest, Paul?
MERTON: Sorry, I do apologise. Sir senile old shitter, is what I meant to say.
(Audience laugh; pause) Sir senile old shitter...who fucks minors.
(Audience unrest)
HISLOP: Sorry, I'm just looking at our lawyer again. (Waves) Hello!
(Audience laughs)
DEAYTON: Shall we get back on course with this, or sha...
SAVILLE: I do fuck miners, that's quite correct. I have always done so. They can do the most wonderful things with cigars. The coal...
MERTON: What, they stick them up your senile, pus-filled arse?
(Audience laughs)
FLOOR MANAGER: (OOV): Come on...I'm getting an ear-bashing here. It's...
MERTON: Oh they want to continue. Sorry, I'll contain myself. Carry on...
DEAYTON: Right (Pause) You used to be a professional wrestler didn't you?
(Huge audience laugh)
SAVILLE: (Calmly) I did.
DEAYTON: You didn't have a nickname or anything?
SAVILLE: Yes - 'Loser'. (Audience laughs)
___________________________________
Out-take 4: 21'20
Following a discussion about caravans:
DEAYTON: Last month, Roger Moore sold his luxury caravan in Malta. Asked by the...
MERTON: I visited your caravan the other week, Jimmy.
SAVILLE: Did you really?
MERTON: Oh yes. Interesting what you can find, if you have a bit of a poke.
(Audience laugh)
HISLOP: He just told you, it was twelve years ago...
SAVILLE: No, I lived in it for twelve years.
MERTON: And fucked twelve year olds. (Audience laugh)
DEAYTON: Here we go again...I'll be backstage if anyone wants me.
MERTON: (Indicating Saville) That's what you said to the kids on your show, wasn't it?
(Audience laugh)
SAVILLE: No, they never did want me.
HISLOP: Not even Sarah Cornley?
SAVILLE: She was an exception.
DEAYTON: Who's Sarah Cornley?
SAVILLE: Sarah Cornley is...
HISLOP: About fifteen grand in damages, wasn't she?
(Uncertain audience laugh)
SAVILLE: That's right.
HISLOP: So if I was going to mention that you threatened to break her arm if she said anything...
SAVILLE: You'd be very wrong. (Pause) I said I'd break both her arms.
(Audience unease)
MERTON: Fucking hell. I mean, you're just sitting there, all shell suit and cigar wearing those fucking...I don't know what they are.
SAVILLE: Chrome-plated SC-700 sun-visors, these are. Sent to me by...
MERTON: We don't give a shit. Ladies and gentlemen, Sir James Saville OBE. Jim has fixed it for me to have my arms broken. Meet this depressing old fucked up cunt of a fucker on television who's riddled with cancer and fucking pubic lice.
HISLOP: (To lawyer again) Hello! (Audience laughs)
MERTON: Christ, I mean ha ha, big fucking joke - the fucking lawyers are involved, tee hee. It doesn't change anything.
DEAYTON: (Visibly out of character) Do you wanna stop, or...?
MERTON: No I don't fucking want to stop. It's all shit! You'll expect a comedy walkout in a minute, won't you? I mean, big bloody joke - I'm going to quote Shakespeare in a minute, how fucking out of character. And Ian knows about football - oh my fucking sides.
SAVILLE: You've never fucked anyone in your life, boy.
MERTON: Oh fuck off...
FLOOR MANAGER: (OOV) ...About five minutes, just to...(Phil Davey enters)
PHIL DAVEY: OK, well top that as they say. You're looking troubled by that, aren't you mate? I tell you, I came back from Amsterdam recently...
RECORDING PLACED ON STAND-BY; CUTS BACK TO CLOSE-UP OF DEAYTON
AWAITING HIS CUE
DEAYTON: OK. Second time lucky. (Pause) Last month, Roger Moore sold his luxury caravan in Malta. Asked by the New York Times about his relaxed acting style...

i read it was fake.

[stillwakingup]

i read it was fake.

Jesus its heavy duty if it isnt!!!!!!!!!!!

[emerald]

This looks like a hoax. I don't believe the allegations against the man. He couldn't have survived in such a public life if they were true.

If he was as powerful and well connected as some people say and could silence accusations or could sue people, why weren't Merton and Hislop sacked or sued? If he was connected to some powerful group, of which the BBC is a mouthpiece, why are Merton and Hislop still in the same job? Angus Deayton was sacked for some peccadillos a few years later. Surely, Merton and Hislop would have been given the elbow for what they said - to such a powerfully connected man.

If this did take place it shows that he wasn't powerfully connected.

If it did take place, why did he sit there for another 20 minutes?

Why didn't Paul Merton get a visit some time later from a couple of blokes carrying pickaxe handles?

It doesn't ring true.

What planet u live on?

[vegan_on_the_land]

A planet where proof should be offered. It's easy to start rumours. Someone I know has had allegations made against him. He talks to everyone he meets, including children. I have told him to be careful and to not initiate conversations with strangers.

[chrismac1967]

Savile threatened his victims not just with violence, he threatened to ruin them completely. Lots of people said his victims would start to come forward after his death. Expect lots more throughout 2012, particularly the survivors of the children's home in Jersey. The latter is one of the most shameful cover ups in history. Human remains were found. Savile was part of a much wider network of paedophiles...many of them public figures.

[chrismac1967]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7004/6665820451_6cef7466da_m.jpg

[dreamweaver]

There are a couple of problems that have been raised on other forums with the transcript's authenticity:
i) On the version that was actually broadcast, Savile was on Ian Hislop's team, not Paul Merton's.
ii) Where is the footage? All we have is a document that anyone could have knocked up in Word.

I think i) is the most damning. You could argue that they must have re-recorded the show with the team members swapped. OK, but then there wouldn't be "out-takes", would there? The entire session would be one big out-take. And would Savile have agreed to re-recording the entire show after being mauled like that anyway?

As for ii) I suppose people could argue that the footage was either destroyed or being kept under lock and key. In which case, does the author of the transcript have a really good memory or did they have access to the original video? If it's the latter, why didn't they upload it to youtube?

A rumour I heard a long time ago was that Savile had been inviting under-age kids to his dressing room for sex even back in his Top of the Pops days. Apparently he would beckon to his victim of choice and it was supposedly an 'open secret' that everyone in the studio knew about. But again that's just a rumour, no tangible evidence for it.

So I'm aware of allegations that Savile was a nonce - but I think the transcript is most likely a fake.

[jimo]

There are a couple of problems that have been raised on other forums with the transcript's authenticity:
i) On the version that was actually broadcast, Savile was on Ian Hislop's team, not Paul Merton's.

No. I remember the episode and Savile was definitely on Paul Merton's team - the transcript is right in that regard. I can remember him sitting there with his big glasses and cigar.

ii) Where is the footage? All we have is a document that anyone could have knocked up in Word.

I think i) is the most damning. You could argue that they must have re-recorded the show with the team members swapped. OK, but then there wouldn't be "out-takes", would there? The entire session would be one big out-take. And would Savile have agreed to re-recording the entire show after being mauled like that anyway?

As for ii) I suppose people could argue that the footage was either destroyed or being kept under lock and key. In which case, does the author of the transcript have a really good memory or did they have access to the original video? If it's the latter, why didn't they upload it to youtube?

It was from the days before youtube - a written transcript could have been the only way of doing it back then. Why footage has not appeared in the years since, I don't know. Maybe it's "under lock and key", as you say, or maybe it's been destroyed. Anyway, I doubt it would be allowed to stay for long on youtube, given the subject matter.

I think the transcript could be genuine, not because I know the allegations to be true but because it fits with the sort of banter that used to go on between Merton, Hislop and Deayton. If it's not real then whoever wrote it must have had a good understanding of their humour styles and the way they interact. Ian Hislop does love to "spill" insider information when he can, and Paul Merton can be a bit self-righteous sometimes....

[dreamweaver]

No. I remember the episode and Savile was definitely on Paul Merton's team - the transcript is right in that regard. I can remember him sitting there with his big glasses and cigar.

He's definitely listed as being on Hislop's team here: http://www.comedy.co.uk/guide/tv/hignfy/episodes/17/8/

It was from the days before youtube - a written transcript could have been the only way of doing it back then. Why footage has not appeared in the years since, I don't know. Maybe it's "under lock and key", as you say, or maybe it's been destroyed. Anyway, I doubt it would be allowed to stay for long on youtube, given the subject matter.

I think the transcript could be genuine, not because I know the allegations to be true but because it fits with the sort of banter that used to go on between Merton, Hislop and Deayton. If it's not real then whoever wrote it must have had a good understanding of their humour styles and the way they interact. Ian Hislop does love to "spill" insider information when he can, and Paul Merton can be a bit self-righteous sometimes....

Fair point re youtube, I hadn't realised it was aired in 1999.

And yes, I can read those Merton quotes with his "voice" if you know what I mean, so it's good enough to make people think it may have been his words.

I'm sure it would have caused a big rumpus back in 1999 if it had happened like that though. It would surely have leaked into the tabloids?

I don't dispute that there was something distinctly creepy about Savile. As I say, I've heard rumours from other sources about possible paedo activity. I'm not completely sure either way about this transcript's authenticity though.

[kitler]

The only thing there is any evidence of Jimmy Saville doing is raising over £40,000,000 for a fucking hospital.

How many of you sanctamonious, rumour spreading cunts run marathons to raise millions for your local hospital?

How many of you would be able to rub shoulders with royalty and government and still have time to stop and chat to any strangers that called your name in the street?

The only thing Jimmy seems guilty of is being an eccentric, and I thought we were supposed to be all for that, given that our own beloved Mr Icke is a fucking eccentric too.


Savile threatened his victims not just with violence, he threatened to ruin them completely. Lots of people said his victims would start to come forward after his death. Expect lots more throughout 2012, particularly the survivors of the children's home in Jersey. The latter is one of the most shameful cover ups in history. Human remains were found. Savile was part of a much wider network of paedophiles...many of them public figures.

You saw those remains did you? They passed through your forensics lab did they? You seen Jimmy do it did you? You got proof he made threats have you? Or are you just pulling words out of your arse and mistaking them for actual fucking reality?

Give proof or shut the fuck up with your disgusting fucking smears.

[totallybonkers]

As a fellow Yorkshireman, I can say for sure that outside our county our attitude is seen to be very different, call us rude, harsh etc. Blunt is the usual description, I can P*** ppl off in no time with no effort at all.
Also having been "in showbiz" a little, there are so many ppl obsessed with themselves, there is usually a dual character too, one for stage and one off-stage.

I would think that transcript from a BBC show is suspect, the producers would have stopped the show. Maybe a Freedom of Information request? As for power-play, I would guess JS has many powerful friends, ppl like that just do, nothing unusual in that.

A shrine to his mother, that is not unusual, grief can be so intense and all consuming. Perhaps only comment on that once you have experienced that intense loss for yourself, we all handle the grief in different ways.

[chrismac1967]

But there is something extremely unusual in someone lying about being a regular visitor to a children's home. And something even more unusual about someone who befriends a vicious and brutal serial killer. And something deeply unusual about someone who boasted to Louis Theroux about imprisoning people, torturing them and beating them up in his days as a nightclub bouncer.

But I forgot he did a lot of work for charidee.:confused: