John Harris in London

[dreamweaver]

I'm just back from John's fabulous talk in the Foundry pub, London. It was a big turnout, much more than John expected. It looked to be at least 160. :cool:

Don't know if anyone else from the board was there, as I don't really know the London crowd (had intended to go to the London meet-up last Sunday but couldn't make it).

Anyway, it was a lively meeting, lots of questions from the floor, some scepticism, which is all good as everyone needs to do their own research.

Nice one, John. Don't miss him if he's coming your way!

[hagbard_celine]

I'm just back from John's fabulous talk in the Foundry pub, London. It was a big turnout, much more than John expected. It looked to be at least 160. :cool:

Don't know if anyone else from the board was there, as I don't really know the London crowd (had intended to go to the London meet-up last Sunday but couldn't make it).

Anyway, it was a lively meeting, lots of questions from the floor, some scepticism, which is all good as everyone needs to do their own research.

Nice one, John. Don't miss him if he's coming your way!

I'd love to see him live!:cool::)

[ringing_freedom]

Yeah - it was an excellent evening.

I think the main thing I got out of this was how many people are waking up to this technology, and are getting involved in the movement.

To some it was all very new (some glazed looks in the audience), to some it helped them understand what the Freeman concept was all about and to some it was just great to meet up with some others who were going through the same processes.

I think what it underlined was two main things;

1) There is a very steep learning curve - people must take responsibility for their own 'learning' and take the steps towards freeman status from standing on firm moral ground. i.e. removing yourself from 'society' as a stand against the many injustices of a criminal, fraudulent government/banking system. There are those that seem to catch wind of the freeman-status and think it can give them excuse to not pay tax, or fines or bills - and I think, this is dishonourable.

2) There is a real need for more and more information - luckily, a lot of us seem committed to this cause...so let's keep it up!

Great to meet so many great people last night.

And thanks to John and all the guys at TPUC!

[rjl9332]

I was going to put a little thread up to see if anyone from Icke land had attended. Nice one dreamweaver. We've got more presentations coming up, and more and more people noticing and connecting with the message. Its an Illusion guys - and illusions only work if you believe them!

Check tpuc.org for details

Be brave

Richy

[numbersix]

I have recently seen the illusion vids and they have now blown my mind..
I have always felt that there is something wrong in the world but could not put my finger on it.. Just like Neo in the Matrix film...

Now I see that everything is a lie.....

The Dun and Bradstreet entries for the Councils and Political parties were so shocking that I could hardly take it in...

We are screwed for money left right and centre...

However money has no real value except in our labour past present and future

As John Harris says we are really slaves...

Now I have to try and convert my workmates in the corporation where my person works...

[rhiannon]

It was buzzing. John said that 50-200 affidavits are hitting Buck House every day! If that's the case we'll have a critical mass soon enough. I truly believe that knowledge of the law scam and people becoming free men has the potential to ground the whole NWO conspiracy to a halt if enough people get on boad.

I spoke to loads of people and got some great advice and encouragement.
Myrtle Merryweather told me all about how, last time she got arrested, they couldn't even charge her! The whole of Holborn nick were powerless and eventually had to let her go. Apparently many peace officers were quite open to being enlightened on the matter. Whenever she gets nicked- she uses the opportunity to tell all the peace officers about the whole statute scam :D

My affidavit will be in as soon as I've got the practicalities of my life sorted out and am feeling well positive about it now.

Also- This stuff can really help spread the awakening:

Even those who arent ready to hear about the conspiracy want to know how to get out of their TC licence and PCN's. I've been telling everyone I know and directing them to the TPUC website.

Like the guy speaking at the end said- the more meetups the better- sharing knowledge, power and peace etc

R

[the worm that turned]

It was buzzing. John said that 50-200 affidavits are hitting Buck House every day! If that's the case we'll have a critical mass soon enough. I truly believe that knowledge of the law scam and people becoming free men has the potential to ground the whole NWO conspiracy to a halt if enough people get on boad.

I spoke to loads of people and got some great advice and encouragement.
Myrtle Merryweather told me all about how, last time she got arrested, they couldn't even charge her! The whole of Holborn nick were powerless and eventually had to let her go. Apparently many peace officers were quite open to being enlightened on the matter. Whenever she gets nicked- she uses the opportunity to tell all the peace officers about the whole statute scam :D

My affidavit will be in as soon as I've got the practicalities of my life sorted out and am feeling well positive about it now.

Also- This stuff can really help spread the awakening:

Even those who arent ready to hear about the conspiracy want to know how to get out of their TC licence and PCN's. I've been telling everyone I know and directing them to the TPUC website.

Like the guy speaking at the end said- the more meetups the better- sharing knowledge, power and peace etc

R

Did John Harris' affidavit to the Queen effectively make him a Freeman of the Land? Or was it merely a statement as if to say, "I know what is going on"?

[dreamweaver]

Even those who arent ready to hear about the conspiracy want to know how to get out of their TC licence and PCN's. I've been telling everyone I know and directing them to the TPUC website.

Ah, careful now. Becoming a freeman isn't something to be taken lightly. John mentioned to me during the break that he was concerned about people trying to 'cherry pick' the bits they like out of the freeman ideology while keeping another foot in the Illusion.

People have to go all the way, they can't do both - and with their rights come responsibilities. If people think it's just an easy way of getting out of their taxes and PCNs, then they're being given the wrong message.

[the worm that turned]

Ah, careful now. Becoming a freeman isn't something to be taken lightly. John mentioned to me during the break that he was concerned about people trying to 'cherry pick' the bits they like out of the freeman ideology while keeping another foot in the Illusion.

People have to go all the way, they can't do both - and with their rights come responsibilities. If people think it's just an easy way of getting out of their taxes and PCNs, then they're being given the wrong message.

Hi Dreamweaver - I have been reading a LOT about the Freeman situation. I have also been reading some rather boring but important books on the British Constitution, EU and English Legal System. I want to know as much as possible before I commit to being a FREEMAN (or at least declaring myself as one). IMHO I think the problem is that there is too much information out there and no clear guidance. I know it is all newish information that is growing, but the average man/woman could do with one very clear explanation of what is involved.

Perhaps you already know of one? For me it would be great to see how in the UK they have you trapped from birth. I.e. a chronological list of "trappings" - birth cert, national ins number, tax, driving licence, passport, etc etc. and then a clear exp of how to "take back" your strawman.

Just my thoughts.

[dreamweaver]

Hi Dreamweaver - I have been reading a LOT about the Freeman situation. I have also been reading some rather boring but important books on the British Constitution, EU and English Legal System. I want to know as much as possible before I commit to being a FREEMAN (or at least declaring myself as one). IMHO I think the problem is that there is too much information out there and no clear guidance. I know it is all newish information that is growing, but the average man/woman could do with one very clear explanation of what is involved.

Perhaps you already know of one? For me it would be great to see how in the UK they have you trapped from birth. I.e. a chronological list of "trappings" - birth cert, national ins number, tax, driving licence, passport, etc etc. and then a clear exp of how to "take back" your strawman.

Just my thoughts.
I'm not the best person to ask, really, I'm still learning about this one myself.

I was a tad sceptical until quite recently, to be honest, because a lot of this stuff about "admiralty law" seemed to have been imported from the militia movement in the US where it has been thrown out of the courts time and time again for the past 15 years or so but has had a new lease of life on YouTube.

But having seen John in Stoke and now at this latest meeting in London, I'm a lot more confident that he's been doing his homework properly and that it's not just yet another false hope. You do need to do research it yourself, unfortunately, that's the only way you'll be able to arm yourself with the necessary knowledge because the bigger the movement grows, the more they will try to trip you up.

The best place to start is probably the www.tpuc.org website. Sorry if that's not as helpful as you would like but it's the best I can do.

[pleasuredome]

Even those who arent ready to hear about the conspiracy want to know how to get out of their TC licence and PCN's. I've been telling everyone I know and directing them to the TPUC website.
R

dealing with pcn's first is a good way to start. you dont need to be a freeman to do it, you only use what is already in statutes to discharge it.

[ringing_freedom]

Originally Posted by dreamweaver
I want to know as much as possible before I commit to being a FREEMAN (or at least declaring myself as one).

OK....let me understand...you are saying that you do not already believe yourself to be free?

There is a quote, I'm sure you're aware of "none are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free".

I am FREE! I am Free not because the law says I am, or because I have declared I am a Freeman, or because I've filed and affadavit or notice. I am free because I say I am...and I demand my inalienable right to be free! You must start from the point of view that you are already free...unless you consciously give up your freedom by submitting to anothers will or jurisdiction.

No one can possibly be free unless, at the very least, you consider yourself to be free from the outset!

A Freeman is free because the Freeman says s/he is. (No-one else will!). And, if that's the case, a Freeman uses his/her freedom throughout his/her daily life. Acting in peace, without causing (criminal) upset to others. A Freeman finds out what he or she can do, by deciding whether or not Common Law is breached, and - if not - doing it (as necessary). A Freeman knows some stuff, and accumulates more by experience (carefully, based on knowledge already acquired), and passes on the information collected, for the benefit of all. We have to do it this way because we are learning.

We'll achieve our demanded 'status', and recognition of it, by demanding recognition of it!

And we do that by using it.

[skyfish]

Ah damn I missed it. Didn't know he was coming to London :(

[dreamweaver]

Originally Posted by dreamweaver

I want to know as much as possible before I commit to being a FREEMAN (or at least declaring myself as one).

Er, I didn't post the above...

[rhiannon]

Ah, careful now. Becoming a freeman isn't something to be taken lightly. John mentioned to me during the break that he was concerned about people trying to 'cherry pick' the bits they like out of the freeman ideology while keeping another foot in the Illusion.

People have to go all the way, they can't do both - and with their rights come responsibilities. If people think it's just an easy way of getting out of their taxes and PCNs, then they're being given the wrong message.

Thanks for your feedback. I thought someone would pick up on that! I should have explained myself better.

I agree wholeheartedly with you.
What I mean is, everyone I know who is 'awake' can point to one trigger event, book film or similar that sent them on a journey of understanding and action.
So- If people realise say, one thing, is a lie... it will hopefully then trigger them into further research, leading more and more of our fellows to become 'conscious' of the bigger picture, and the bigger deception.

I am aware and careful to tell people that personal responsibility and morality is pivotal to making this work.

[rhiannon]

dealing with pcn's first is a good way to start. you dont need to be a freeman to do it, you only use what is already in statutes to discharge it.

My thoughts were that the Rabbit hole is so deep- starting as many people as possible on the 'easy to swallow' stuff and getting people into small peices of action will hopefully start a trend or movement of confidence (for want of a better word) that will lead more and more humans into positive and peaceful action.

[comma berenices]

Originally Posted by pleasuredome
dealing with pcn's first is a good way to start. you dont need to be a freeman to do it, you only use what is already in statutes to discharge it.

This is exactly how i started,then the letter to the beeb:).

I found it overwhelming at first but then i was trying to run,so i slowed down.

I brought books on the constituion and common law.And a blacks law dictionary,i was advised to get the 5th edition.

I read them and make notes to myself as i go along,it's like studying again
and at nearly 50 it's no mean feat.I have felt empowered for the first time in my life.

good advice pleasuredome.

[the worm that turned]

Originally Posted by pleasuredome
dealing with pcn's first is a good way to start. you dont need to be a freeman to do it, you only use what is already in statutes to discharge it.

This is exactly how i started,then the letter to the beeb:).

I found it overwhelming at first but then i was trying to run,so i slowed down.

I brought books on the constituion and common law.And a blacks law dictionary,i was advised to get the 5th edition.

I read them and make notes to myself as i go along,it's like studying again
and at nearly 50 it's no mean feat.I have felt empowered for the first time in my life.

good advice pleasuredome.

I'm doing exactly the same and like you, rushing into things is NOT the way forward. Do you know if the 5th version of Blacks' is still relevant when there is an 8th version out?

[synergy777]

did anyone see him on edgemedia/channel 200 on sky, he was on the show with theo chalmers.

[the worm that turned]

did anyone see him on edgemedia/channel 200 on sky, he was on the show with theo chalmers.

I saw it and was cringing when Theo was so frightened to say anything that might lose him his precious job! He certainly isn't at the Edge! Good interview though and John makes some brilliant points.

[comma berenices]

I'm doing exactly the same and like you, rushing into things is NOT the way forward. Do you know if the 5th version of Blacks' is still relevant when there is an 8th version out?


I was advised by someone on the tpuc site to buy the 5th edition,as far as i'm aware it's still relevant.

I am saving for the 8th edition,i was advised it's very much a revised edition.

As common law has'nt changed i can't see the need to have a revised edition,that's why i want to purchase the 8th for comparison really.

it do'es take some understanding,i want to get it right before i swear an affidavit.
I was succesful in getting 2 PCN's cancelled using these laws;)

[ringing_freedom]

Originally Posted by ringing_freedom View Post
Originally Posted by dreamweaver

I want to know as much as possible before I commit to being a FREEMAN (or at least declaring myself as one).
Er, I didn't post the above...

Apologies Dreamweaver - I definitely copy and pasted it from someone on the first page of this thread...now I can't find it.

Very wierd!

Promise I'm not trying to slander you!! LOL

Love as always,
James

[dreamweaver]

Apologies Dreamweaver - I definitely copy and pasted it from someone on the first page of this thread...now I can't find it.

Very wierd!

Promise I'm not trying to slander you!! LOL

Love as always,
James
This be the one: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=830359&postcount=9

It was the worm that turned. :)

[the worm that turned]

This be the one: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=830359&postcount=9

It was the worm that turned. :)

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