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free_at_last
24-02-2009, 05:47 PM
Hi People,

The end of the tyranny is close, the World is becoming very aware of the NWO and their goals, their big push coupled with the World financial crisis has caused everyone's ears to prick up and eyes to open.

The imminent riots due to take place this summer will be the spark of an all out global war at domestic levels and once the people start, the momentum will carry them to victory. In the US, 9 States has so far declared sovereignty and 12 are in process of. California even threatening to call all of it's armed forces back if Martial law is declared by the puppet Government; and states! the armed forces will be held until a new President is elected. This can only mean one thing.

THE GAME IS OVER!

desperate measures will soon be exacted upon us all and we must stay strong and unified. There are now too many decent Political figures, Soldiers and Police behind the approaching revolution, the NWO must now be very nervous, they know the cat is out of the bag and the end for them is near.

New Hampshire State has ordered all of their Police and Military personnel to resist the NWO by all mean necessary and has refused to disarm citizens.

It will not be long before all 29 remaining States declare Sovereignty excluding New York (NWO owned and the Capitol also NWO owned) leading to the break up of a once great nation. We have all seen the results of such a break up with the former giant USSR, so for those of you who think this will not happen, think again. There will be a flushing out, mass arrest and possible executions at the hands of the people, of all NWO members, bad news for them is most of them are now out in the open and known, this will make it impossible for them to hide.

The next 9 months will be interesting times and the scenario laid out in that fictitious Telegraph story called Black Jack could be their safety button if all hell breaks loose.

I look forward to the day when people live in peace and dirty corrupt Bankers and Politicians are a thing of the past.

Good Luck All

Free At Last.

gilly
24-02-2009, 05:52 PM
Fantastic to hear this news!

Forgive my genuine ignorance in such matters, but if the individual states call back their military, are those states equipped with weapoary?

rixxmixxhell
24-02-2009, 05:52 PM
I have a feeling the states and Sovereignty is so they can act as they want the the population.

So what ever they need to do, they have the right. I don't think it's to brake away from the white house and free itself .

To think TPB will be so easy is ignorant.

gilly
24-02-2009, 05:59 PM
I have a feeling the states and Sovereignty is so they can act as they want the the population.

So what ever they need to do, they have the right. I don't think it's to brake away from the white house and free itself .

To think TPB will be so easy is ignorant.

Their refusal to disarm the public is a good sign, don't you think?

fnulnu
24-02-2009, 06:03 PM
Their refusal to disarm the public is a good sign, don't you think?

Depends how much of a bloodbath tptb want to create,I guess.We know soldiers don't mean a damn to them,so if they send troops to go head to head with civilians,they'll prolly videotape it all like a snuff movie.

ranran
24-02-2009, 06:03 PM
It will not be long before all 29 remaining States declare Sovereignty

So what happened to the other 21 states? I coulda sworn there were 50 states.

ranran
24-02-2009, 06:05 PM
New Hampshire State has ordered all of their Police and Military personnel to resist the NWO by all mean necessary and has refused to disarm citizens.

sources?

skyline
24-02-2009, 06:07 PM
I think we need to be guarded because everything is planned down to the last detail.The destriuction of the USA as a superpower has always been the game plan.What we might see as the end of a NWO may just be a new world order.Lets not forget the infighting between factions within this group,the USA being a front then the next superpower emerges.They are not stupid and have had thousands of years to perfect the game.The real power of the USA originates in London,David stated that the USA is a company The Virginia company if my memory is right.The USA has been a social experiement on what a new world order would be like,a government over seeing smaller states,experiment over now lets do it globally,who knows

Although I encourage any possitive news,the end of the Illuminati can only be signaled by the release of free energy,end to poverty and war,honest media to name a few

rixxmixxhell
24-02-2009, 06:08 PM
There's always more than meets the eye. Even a sharpened eye. Keeping guns in circulation may work to their advantage.

O.P - no offense friend, but that's a little naive.

You genuinely think people are good, and will choose the correct action.
Also - you underestimate what they can achieve.

rixxmixxhell
24-02-2009, 06:11 PM
...

Although I encourage any possitive news,the end of the Illuminati can only be signaled by the release of free energy,end to poverty and war,honest media to name a few

Yes. And it takes time.

People must understand the deep magik.

gorgeousgertie
24-02-2009, 06:12 PM
hehehehehe I nearly fell for this thread then hehehehehehe!!!

rixxmixxhell
24-02-2009, 06:14 PM
I think the O.P was being genuine in his post.

What do you think about it gorgeousgertie ???

fnulnu
24-02-2009, 06:14 PM
hehehehehe I nearly fell for this thread then hehehehehehe!!!

gorgeousgertie! I missed you!

gorgeousgertie
24-02-2009, 06:17 PM
oh.........
so a replacement system of different people calling the same shit with different names is any better different or the end of the bigger picture....scary.

gilly
24-02-2009, 06:22 PM
Depends how much of a bloodbath tptb want to create,I guess.We know soldiers don't mean a damn to them,so if they send troops to go head to head with civilians,they'll prolly videotape it all like a snuff movie.

Yes, I see what you mean, but you can't have it both ways.

By that I mean there were people on a thread re disarming the public who were very up in arms about that -the ones it affects thought that was a bad thing. So if that's true, it must be good if it doesn't then happen?

Sorry - just realised the bad pun ... up in arms.

fnulnu
24-02-2009, 06:28 PM
Yes, I see what you mean, but you can't have it both ways.

By that I mean there were people on a thread re disarming the public who were very up in arms about that -the ones it affects thought that was a bad thing. So if that's true, it must be good if it doesn't then happen?

Sorry - just realised the bad pun ... up in arms.

Lord knows Gilly.At the end of the day,we're all trying to second-guess a bunch of psychopaths.

queenofleon
24-02-2009, 06:37 PM
Hi People,

The end of the tyranny is close, the World is becoming very aware of the NWO and their goals, their big push coupled with the World financial crisis has caused everyone's ears to prick up and eyes to open.

The imminent riots due to take place this summer will be the spark of an all out global war at domestic levels and once the people start, the momentum will carry them to victory. In the US, 9 States has so far declared sovereignty and 12 are in process of. California even threatening to call all of it's armed forces back if Martial law is declared by the puppet Government; and states! the armed forces will be held until a new President is elected. This can only mean one thing.

THE GAME IS OVER!

desperate measures will soon be exacted upon us all and we must stay strong and unified. There are now too many decent Political figures, Soldiers and Police behind the approaching revolution, the NWO must now be very nervous, they know the cat is out of the bag and the end for them is near.

New Hampshire State has ordered all of their Police and Military personnel to resist the NWO by all mean necessary and has refused to disarm citizens.

It will not be long before all 29 remaining States declare Sovereignty excluding New York (NWO owned and the Capitol also NWO owned) leading to the break up of a once great nation. We have all seen the results of such a break up with the former giant USSR, so for those of you who think this will not happen, think again. There will be a flushing out, mass arrest and possible executions at the hands of the people, of all NWO members, bad news for them is most of them are now out in the open and known, this will make it impossible for them to hide.

The next 9 months will be interesting times and the scenario laid out in that fictitious Telegraph story called Black Jack could be their safety button if all hell breaks loose.

I look forward to the day when people live in peace and dirty corrupt Bankers and Politicians are a thing of the past.

Good Luck All

Free At Last.


I have been watchin your posts with joy!!

Love your avatarr, you are a legend!!


Keep up the good work!!

gilly
24-02-2009, 06:43 PM
Lord knows Gilly.At the end of the day,we're all trying to second-guess a bunch of psychopaths.

You're spot on.

free_at_last
24-02-2009, 06:52 PM
Fantastic to hear this news!

Forgive my genuine ignorance in such matters, but if the individual states call back their military, are those states equipped with weapoary?

Absolutely, all their weapons and troops belong to them. NH will use them to defend and uphold the constitution, that's why people speak of possible civil war.

sophia_h
24-02-2009, 06:53 PM
`

First look at what results tptb are going to create.


a rev ol ushun is much desired as excuse to weed out all
dissenters

from 911 Truthers to hoax exposers.

any Patriots or Constitutionalsists

ANY Nationalists

ANY home schoolers

the list is longer than the Lord High Executioners
of the Mikado :D


by allowing 80 million guns to remain in the hands
of the FOLK
a nasty condition will prevail for a year or so
as the weeding progresses.

Prospective LEADERS can be killed on sight

Never start believeing our guns can stop tptb

THINK of the weapons it has

our guns ammo are as soap bubbles breaking before
hitting any target.

so why LOGICALLY will tptb allow us to retain our guns?

as an excuse and to single out dissenters as surely as
wearing a badge .

:mad:

..

free_at_last
24-02-2009, 06:56 PM
`

First look at what results tptb are going to create.


a rev ol ushun is much desired as excuse to weed out all
dissenters

from 911 Truthers to hoax exposers.

any Patriots or Constitutionalsists

ANY Nationalists

ANY home schoolers

the list is longer than the Lord High Executioners
of the Mikado :D


by allowing 80 million guns to remain in the hands
of the FOLK
a nasty condition will prevail for a year or so
as the weeding progresses.

Prospective LEADERS can be killed on sight

Never start believeing our guns can stop tptb

THINK of the weapons it has

our guns ammo are as soap bubbles breaking before
hitting any target.

so why LOGICALLY will tptb allow us to retain our guns?

as an excuse and to single out dissenters as surely as
wearing a badge .

:mad:

..

What makes you think we even need guns to stop TPTB? ;)

gilly
24-02-2009, 06:59 PM
`

First look at what results tptb are going to create.


a rev ol ushun is much desired as excuse to weed out all
dissenters

from 911 Truthers to hoax exposers.

any Patriots or Constitutionalsists

ANY Nationalists

ANY home schoolers

the list is longer than the Lord High Executioners
of the Mikado :D


by allowing 80 million guns to remain in the hands
of the FOLK
a nasty condition will prevail for a year or so
as the weeding progresses.

Prospective LEADERS can be killed on sight

Never start believeing our guns can stop tptb

THINK of the weapons it has

our guns ammo are as soap bubbles breaking before
hitting any target.

so why LOGICALLY will tptb allow us to retain our guns?

as an excuse and to single out dissenters as surely as
wearing a badge .

:mad:

..


So that there are less to cull in the FEMA camps perhaps?

Those who fight back are dissenters - those who don't are easier lambs to the slaughter.

astrochicken
24-02-2009, 07:04 PM
I've allways thought that the moot point is: how will those with authority react?

Do they round people up and shoot them and generally just do their masters bidding or will they turn on them?

gilly
24-02-2009, 07:08 PM
I've allways the moot point is: how will those with authority react?

Do they round people up and shoot them and generally just do their masters bidding or will they turn on them?

That's a very good question, that's been on my mind too.

I know they're mega-conditioned to obey orders without question, but they are human beings (I think). They have families - they can't all just be programmed zombies.

free_at_last
24-02-2009, 07:16 PM
That's a very good question, that's been on my mind too.

I know they're mega-conditioned to obey orders without question, but they are human beings (I think). They have families - they can't all just be programmed zombies.

That is the point when most of the Military will stop serving TPTB, they will all use Obama's legitimacy as a means to excuse themselves from the situation. They may at first go along with the plan but the thought will soon cross their minds, If I am doing this to these innocent people then this must be happening in my town to my family.

This is where the foreign troops will come in, problem there is that is tantamount to a foreign invasion and most Americans will react as such, unleashing brutal deadly force on the oppressive foreign troops and they will have every right to do so.

gilly
24-02-2009, 07:21 PM
I just know I'll get thumped for saying this (metaphorically speaking), but as horrific and utterly repugnant as the prospect of war truely is, I personally would prefer that scenario, to simply being dragged off to oblivion at 4am one morning, with no hope of defending my children or myself.

fnulnu
24-02-2009, 07:30 PM
I just know I'll get thumped for saying this (metaphorically speaking), but as horrific and utterly repugnant as the prospect of war truely is, I personally would prefer that scenario, to simply being dragged off to oblivion at 4am one morning, with no hope of defending my children or myself.

I'm with you on that,although I'm in the fortunate position of not having children.It must be ten thousand times worse for families.

gilly
24-02-2009, 07:36 PM
I'm with you on that,although I'm in the fortunate position of not having children.It must be ten thousand times worse for families.

I feel that alone, I could be very fierce & brave (though in reality, when it comes down to it, I might just assume the fetal position and astral project) - except that the very thought of them harming my kids, and no exaggeration, I start getting palpitations.

fnulnu
24-02-2009, 07:44 PM
I feel that alone, I could be very fierce & brave (though in reality, when it comes down to it, I might just assume the fetal position and astral project) - except that the very thought of them harming my kids, and no exaggeration, I start getting palpitations.

I can imagine,I'd be going off my head if I had kids,but look at it this way,that maternal sense,those palpitations are what is going to carry you,and your loved ones safely through.

gilly
24-02-2009, 07:47 PM
I can imagine,I'd be going off my head if I had kids,but look at it this way,that maternal sense,those palpitations are what is going to carry you,and your loved ones safely through.

You always have kind, uplifting words. I appreciate it. :)

fnulnu
24-02-2009, 07:52 PM
You always have kind, uplifting words. I appreciate it. :)

Aw,Gilly.Thank you.So do you.I'm really happy you're around :)

ranran
24-02-2009, 08:23 PM
sources?

still waiting:confused:

skunksmash
24-02-2009, 08:28 PM
great thread, free_at_last.......;)


''fight the good fight''





:)SK

free_at_last
24-02-2009, 08:41 PM
great thread, free_at_last.......;)


''fight the good fight''





:)SK

Cheers ;)

free_at_last
24-02-2009, 08:45 PM
still waiting:confused:

Sorry Mate, I forgot U :)

Check out this video, Dan Itse, NH Reprepresentative give all the links and info.

Enjoy:)

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

gremlin
24-02-2009, 09:15 PM
how do you know this free at last?

omnit
24-02-2009, 09:40 PM
mmmmmm I thought most people on here understood what the NWO actually is, but Ive just read this whole thread and it seems most do not :(

You see the NWO WANT the US to implode, Yes you may get change in the states or even a civil war, why cant you see that THIS IS ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES OF THE NWO?

They want the US to Fall!

Problem - Economy, bent politicians, Obama etc etc
Reaction - Public outrage, major uproar within states, Civil War etc etc
Solution - NWO, the US public will bend over backwards for it once the shit hits the fan for a while!

Why do you not see this?

oiram
24-02-2009, 10:50 PM
Hi People,

Good Luck All

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delamo1999
24-02-2009, 10:56 PM
This is all good, however I have unemployed for many months now and am looking foward to going back to work in my field.

free_at_last
24-02-2009, 11:02 PM
mmmmmm I thought most people on here understood what the NWO actually is, but Ive just read this whole thread and it seems most do not :(

You see the NWO WANT the US to implode, Yes you may get change in the states or even a civil war, why cant you see that THIS IS ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES OF THE NWO?

They want the US to Fall!

Problem - Economy, bent politicians, Obama etc etc
Reaction - Public outrage, major uproar within states, Civil War etc etc
Solution - NWO, the US public will bend over backwards for it once the shit hits the fan for a while!

Why do you not see this?

Who are you referring to, not understanding what the NWO is?

ownedtbh
24-02-2009, 11:11 PM
lol @ this thread.

dangermouse
24-02-2009, 11:13 PM
Who are you referring to, not understanding what the NWO is?

the people pulling the strings of the new world order i imagine .. ^^ correct me if i am wrong ..(im usually wrong :p)

fnulnu
24-02-2009, 11:15 PM
the people pulling the strings of the new world order i imagine .. ^^ correct me if i am wrong ..(im usually wrong :p)

That sounds right to me.

omnit
24-02-2009, 11:42 PM
Who are you referring to, not understanding what the NWO is?

Hi Free at last!

Well the NWO or Elite are the people(?) who are controling the people we think are the Elite, you follow me?

ie. Not the Polititions, Not Obama, Not the British Royal Family, Not the Rockefellars, Not the Rothchilds, Not ANYONE YOU HAVE OR WILL EVER SEE IN ANY MEDIA FORMAT! But the people(?) above those people(?)

Are you starting to get the picture?

This goes back for thousands of years of human history through lots of civilisations ALL controlled by a hierarchy (the same ones!)

I appreciate the fact that at least you are trying to be positive, but Fighting is not the way forward, as you can only fight against puppets!

The real 'battle' is within ourselves, we need to find peace and love, and learn to be empathetic to everyone, even the puppets and theyre masters!
When we can do this and as soon as we all decide NOT to resort to any kind of violance, WE WIN!

sithnemesis
24-02-2009, 11:45 PM
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bowtiedaddy
24-02-2009, 11:52 PM
Fantastic to hear this news!

Forgive my genuine ignorance in such matters, but if the individual states call back their military, are those states equipped with weapoary?

yes. The federal government is literally just one little piece of land. It's not even the whole city of DC. If the states wanted to, they could just order control of all of the missiles, military bases, equipment and troops on their land, if I'm not mistaken.

I wonder what the process is in dealing with the military in a 10th amendment situation.

bowtiedaddy
24-02-2009, 11:55 PM
I have a feeling the states and Sovereignty is so they can act as they want the the population.

So what ever they need to do, they have the right. I don't think it's to brake away from the white house and free itself .

To think TPB will be so easy is ignorant.

The people introducing the bills have been anti NWO from the beginning. Unfortunately I don't think you guys have separations like that over there. It's a bit different in that the US government was purposefully set up NOT to have central power. The simple act of trying to have central power is breaking the law. If I'm not mistaken this is not the case over there?

bowtiedaddy
24-02-2009, 11:58 PM
So what happened to the other 21 states? I coulda sworn there were 50 states.

It takes 2/3 of them only to dissolve the Federal Government. Remember. The US is a union, not a "country". The States are supposed to be sovereign nations. The States created the federal government, and are not supposed to be subservient to it. It is part of the design that if the federal government got out of hand, the states should strip it's authority and reform it.

bowtiedaddy
24-02-2009, 11:59 PM
sources?

Try the New Hampshire Legislature website. :D

omnit
25-02-2009, 12:02 AM
It takes 2/3 of them only to dissolve the Federal Government. Remember. The US is a union, not a "country". The States are supposed to be sovereign nations. The States created the federal government, and are not supposed to be subservient to it. It is part of the design that if the federal government got out of hand, the states should strip it's authority and reform it.

And this all fits in perfectly with what the NWO want to achieve!

when the US fragments, and civil wars errupts, as states cant feed there citizens, and it may take a while but the US will be begging for a NWO to 'save' them!

bowtiedaddy
25-02-2009, 12:04 AM
People. Remember, the sovereignty issue isn't about breaking up the USA. All that would happen is that the current Federal government would be kicked out and stripped of their authority, and then the States would reinstate it back again with new people in charge, and no doubt more protection against it's abuse. It's not succession from the Union, it's a start over of the Union, which has been long overdue for over 100 years. The sovereignty isn't a NWO plot.

omnit
25-02-2009, 12:05 AM
People. Remember, the sovereignty issue isn't about breaking up the USA. All that would happen is that the current Federal government would be kicked out and stripped of their authority, and then the States would reinstate it back again with new people in charge, and no doubt more protection against it's abuse. It's not succession from the Union, it's a start over of the Union, which has been long overdue for over 100 years. The sovereignty isn't a NWO plot.

You think the NWO wouldnt have calculated this into there plans?

I think thats just a little naive to be honest!

electron2012
25-02-2009, 12:12 AM
THEY CAN NOT WIN

Have you not noticed since being born, that everything has balance in life?

Hot and cold

Light and dark

Soft and hard

Everything has duality, which is why I believe war and pestilence, has to turn into light and peace..... it's due. Universal law of balance predicts this.

bowtiedaddy
25-02-2009, 12:13 AM
I think we need to be guarded because everything is planned down to the last detail.The destriuction of the USA as a superpower has always been the game plan.What we might see as the end of a NWO may just be a new world order.Lets not forget the infighting between factions within this group,the USA being a front then the next superpower emerges.They are not stupid and have had thousands of years to perfect the game.The real power of the USA originates in London,David stated that the USA is a company The Virginia company if my memory is right.The USA has been a social experiement on what a new world order would be like,a government over seeing smaller states,experiment over now lets do it globally,who knows

Although I encourage any possitive news,the end of the Illuminati can only be signaled by the release of free energy,end to poverty and war,honest media to name a few

I think it's a bit more complex. There is a USA corporation, but this is different than the government. The corporation was put into power in the 1800s. I know all about the Virginia company, but it isn't necessarily one in the same as the government. It's a parallel entity, and yes is owned by England. There is some truth to it, but it's doubtful that this entire thing is planned out as such. There is a lot of resistance against the state sovereignty bills by the federal government. The reality is that the USA corporation is still subservient to the actual government. The actual government has in it's constitution an amendment barring the sort of thing the NWO do, so I kind of doubt it was a setup. No doubt it's infiltrated, but you guys are giving the Illuminati more credit than is deserved. They LOVE to make themselves sound much more powerful than they are.

omnit
25-02-2009, 12:13 AM
THEY CAN NOT WIN

Have you not noticed since being born, that everything has balance in life?

Hot and cold

Light and dark

Soft and hard

Everything has duality, which is why I believe war and pestilence, has to turn into light and peace..... it's due. Universal law of balance predicts this.

I agree!

bowtiedaddy
25-02-2009, 12:17 AM
You think the NWO wouldnt have calculated this into there plans?

I think thats just a little naive to be honest!

Yes, I do. But just because something is planned for, doesn't mean it will see any success. They don't know the future any better than you or I. They also far underestimated the resistance and knowledge of their plan.

So many defeatists on this forum. They've been defeated many times. They could just as easily be defeated again. They like to make it seem like they are more in control than they are. They have to be careful or even the members of their own secret societies and round tables will catch on to their real plan.

I can see them being defeated in this. I can already see them backtracking a lot. They probably won't be defeated indefinitely. If they're smart they'll hold off on this a bit, because they're getting to obvious, coupled with how free flowing information is in the modern day, they could find all of their heads impaled on spikes, Tower of London style. Everyone knows who they are, and where they live. It's only a matter of time before an army is battering down their door to whisk them off to be tried for crimes against humanity.

fnulnu
25-02-2009, 12:24 AM
Yes, I do. But just because something is planned for, doesn't mean it will see any success.

Precisely.The best laid plans of mice and men,often go tits-up.

bowtiedaddy
25-02-2009, 12:27 AM
Precisely.The best laid plans of mice and men,often go tits-up.

And, as the OP said, judging from how this is playing out... it's looking like they didn't even realize how much resistance and knowledge there was. I bet Kissenger is shitting his pants right now. He'd better have a 100 man militia to guard him, because he's very close to being discovered by the masses.

somewarez
25-02-2009, 12:28 AM
So now we have to prepare for some armed war??????

if so your turning into what you hate............

go figure....

sorry this sounds all wrong

SW

bowtiedaddy
25-02-2009, 12:31 AM
Hi Free at last!

Well the NWO or Elite are the people(?) who are controling the people we think are the Elite, you follow me?

ie. Not the Polititions, Not Obama, Not the British Royal Family, Not the Rockefellars, Not the Rothchilds, Not ANYONE YOU HAVE OR WILL EVER SEE IN ANY MEDIA FORMAT! But the people(?) above those people(?)

Are you starting to get the picture?

This goes back for thousands of years of human history through lots of civilisations ALL controlled by a hierarchy (the same ones!)

I appreciate the fact that at least you are trying to be positive, but Fighting is not the way forward, as you can only fight against puppets!

The real 'battle' is within ourselves, we need to find peace and love, and learn to be empathetic to everyone, even the puppets and theyre masters!
When we can do this and as soon as we all decide NOT to resort to any kind of violance, WE WIN!

Lay down and die before your masters. Nah. I think fighting it is worth it. These "all powerful" people are being found out like never before. It isn't business as usual. They're caught with their pants down and are being backed into corners, which is why they're so desperate in their tactics. They're throwing everything they have out there and it isn't even doing any good. If they tried pulling a false flag, it would be even more in the direction of their defeat. The only way they'll make it out of this is to back off. I almost hope they keep it up like this, since it's waking more people up than any of us could even do.

These people always have one weakness. They don't feel. They don't understand the power of the human conscience. Their arrogance is their ultimate downfall. It wouldn't be the first time people like that were "removed from the gene pool".

fnulnu
25-02-2009, 12:32 AM
I bet Kissenger is shitting his pants right now. He'd better have a 100 man militia to guard him, because he's very close to being discovered by the masses.

Hee hee,now that'll be down to free_at_last's signature.

bowtiedaddy
25-02-2009, 12:35 AM
mmmmmm I thought most people on here understood what the NWO actually is, but Ive just read this whole thread and it seems most do not :(

You see the NWO WANT the US to implode, Yes you may get change in the states or even a civil war, why cant you see that THIS IS ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES OF THE NWO?

They want the US to Fall!

Problem - Economy, bent politicians, Obama etc etc
Reaction - Public outrage, major uproar within states, Civil War etc etc
Solution - NWO, the US public will bend over backwards for it once the shit hits the fan for a while!

Why do you not see this?

The USA won't fall as the result of the actions of the States. It will fall if the Federal government ISN'T dissolved and reformed. They would love a civil war, but this isn't a civil war. This is a legal operation to restore the checks and balances that protect AGAINST the NWO.

These resolutions, or any action afterward wouldn't mean the breakup of the USA. It would just mean that the current globalists in the Federal government would be forced out and a fresh start made. It's the NWO's worst nightmare. They've worked hard at chipping away at the US government for over 100 years, and this would totally fuck their plans, at least for the time being.

free_at_last
25-02-2009, 12:38 AM
Hi Free at last!

Well the NWO or Elite are the people(?) who are controling the people we think are the Elite, you follow me?

ie. Not the Polititions, Not Obama, Not the British Royal Family, Not the Rockefellars, Not the Rothchilds, Not ANYONE YOU HAVE OR WILL EVER SEE IN ANY MEDIA FORMAT! But the people(?) above those people(?)

Are you starting to get the picture?

This goes back for thousands of years of human history through lots of civilisations ALL controlled by a hierarchy (the same ones!)

I appreciate the fact that at least you are trying to be positive, but Fighting is not the way forward, as you can only fight against puppets!

The real 'battle' is within ourselves, we need to find peace and love, and learn to be empathetic to everyone, even the puppets and theyre masters!
When we can do this and as soon as we all decide NOT to resort to any kind of violance, WE WIN!

With all due respect my friend, I have been in the thick of this for over four years, I do know how the game works. Yes I am aware as Icke has mentioned in the past if you can touch them, see them, or hear them they are just the front men. The head of the Illuminati or the eye is a mystery to many. Some believe it id David Rockefeller some believe it is someone completely unknown. But most people on here understand the situation.

As do I.

michael christopher
25-02-2009, 01:12 AM
The OP is entirely correct, IMHO. Yes, the fight is within ourselves, but if someone is trying to drag you off to a camp, I hope you resist and fight back. That being said, I don't even think it's going to come to that, because Americans are actually starting to wake up - maybe not entirely, but at least to the point where they're going to start going on witch hunts, and this time they might find the actual witches.

There are a few more months of dreaming left, but when the rug is pulled out from under America, they aren't going to have a lot of time to get done what they want to get done. They did a pretty good job of making the world go stupid, Westerners in particular, but unfortunately they didn't make us stupid enough to let them get away with this.

oiram
25-02-2009, 01:53 AM
Extortion! The Real Reason for War and Depression
by Henry Makow Ph.D.

http://www.henrymakow.com/kertzer1.jpg"Woe unto those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness"... Isaiah 5:20

"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover

"We are in the midst of a phase of history in which nations will be redefined and their futures fundamentally altered."  --Rupert Murdoch Feb 24, 2009

At the end of the 19th Century, the Catholic church organized massive resistance to Illuminati Jewish domination of national life.  The Illuminati instigated World War One  partly to crush and punish a recalcitrant Europe. 

Lenin defined "peace" as the end of all forms of resistance to Communist (i.e. Illuminati Jewish) despotism. 

After WWI and WWII, the League of Nations and the UN both promised world government to prevent war. Indeed, Illuminati globalists always promise this--but we don't realize they are blackmailing us. They start the wars in the first place.

The Elders of Zion vowed to harass the nations with corruption and strife until they accepted their "Superstate"  (i.e. world government tyranny.)

"The recognition of our despot may also come ...when the peoples, utterly wearied by the irregularities and incompetence - a matter which we shall arrange for - of their rulers, will clamor: "Away with them and give us one king over all the earth who will unite us and annihilate the causes of disorders - frontiers, nationalities, religions, State debts - who will give us peace and quiet which we cannot find under our rulers and representatives." (emphasis mine, Protocols of Zion, 10-18)

Of course, this also applies to the current economic depression. Right on cue, Henry Kissinger, CEO of the NWO, tells us: "the alternative to a new international order is chaos."  The "E" in CEO stands for Extortion. "Please Mr. Kissinger, give back our prosperity. We'll agree to anything."

We are in the eighth inning of a long term conspiracy and must shake off our complacency. This is not another recession; it is a final life-and-death power grab.  A satanic cult, the Illuminati, has subverted all nations and religions and now is moving to consolidate its power. Our "leaders" (including Obama) belong to this cult. From their past record (in Russia & China), it is possible to predict the future: Conditions will deteriorate. There will be civil unrest. An assassination or some other contrived terror will result in war or martial law. Anyone who has expressed opposition to their agenda, -- patriots, Christians, "anti Semites" -- will be put into concentration camps and possibly murdered. The war and suffering will be such that the masses will accept the Illuminati's sugar coated tyranny. I hope I am wrong.

The Illuminati were founded by Cabalistic Jewish bankers like the Rothschilds who used "anti Semitism" to brainwash and empower other Jews as their agents. But, as we have seen, they will sacrifice these Jews to achieve their aims.

They are Freemasons --both Jews and non-Jews-- who want to hog all the world's wealth, cull the human race, enslave it mentally and spiritually, if not physically. They have been conspiring for thousands of years and we have the honor of seeing their endgame. They are a hydra headed monster-operating under many facades but today the main ones are socialism, communism, liberalism, feminism, zionism and neo conservatism.

THE CHURCH'S STRUGGLE WITH SATANISM

For centuries, until after World War Two, the Catholic Church was the bastion of Western civilization and main obstacle to Illuminati world control.

Recently, the Vatican opened their secret archives and revealed their centuries-long struggle to arrest the Illuminati (i.e. Masonic) Jewish stranglehold on European politics and culture. Jewish historian David Kertzer documents this struggle in his book "Popes Against the Jews"
(2001) which of course he spins as the church's role in creating anti Semitism. Nevertheless the book is a treasure trove of valuable information including a graphic account of the 1840 "Damascus Affair," the most famous instance of satanic Jewish human ritual sacrifice. (pp.86 ff.)

The salient points are 1. a prominent Italian Capuchin monk, father Tommaso was ritually slaughtered (and blood drained) by prominent cabalist Jews. 2. They confessed and led authorities to his identifiable remains and clothing. 3. The Rothschilds sent a delegation of prominent English Jews to Damascus and pressured all concerned to say the confessions were extracted by torture. 4. The Pope, Gregory XVI, had reliable intelligence and refused to knuckle under. Nor did any future Pope. They also had the testimony of a Moldavian priest, a former Jewish rabbi, who described and explained all the rituals, including the use of Christian blood in Passover matzoh. (92)

When a new ritual murder was reported in Hungary in 1899, the official Vatican newspaper L'Observatore Romano issued this warning "not to all Jews but to certain Jews in particular: Don't throw oil on the fire...Content yourself with the Christian's money, but stop shedding and sucking their blood." (163)

Obviously these instances of human ritual sacrifice are relatively rare. The masses of Jews are not satanic and genuinely want assimilation. Only  satanists among them engage in this practice. Nonetheless, all Jews are implicated by denials and cries of "blood libel."  Satanists --Jewish or not--engage in human ritual sacrifice. The Illuminati do it regularly. In addition, they have been doing it to the human race for centuries by virtue of war.

While Jews are not satanists, their leadership, the Illuminati bankers are. In 1913, Illuminati bankers went to great length to whitewash the rape and murder of a 14-year-old girl in Atlanta Georgia by Leo Frank, the head of the local B'nai Brith lodge. They even bribed the jury and the governor.  (See the account in Michael Jones, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, p. 707-729) 

For these Illuminati Jews, lying and deception are the norm, what they call "magic." They have convinced their fellow Jews that anti Semitism is a sickness of the gentile mind, a delusion, when in fact it is resistance to the satanic Illuminati agenda. Ordinary Jews will be sacrificed when the going gets tough unless they take a stand against their "leaders."

The naivete of Jewish intellectuals is well illustrated by Kertzer himself. He portrays Vatican opposition to Masonic Jewish control as an old reflex born of prejudice, envy and fear of change. Yet, he relates that both Bismark and Metternick, the Austrian Chancellor, were in the Rothschilds' pocket. Metternick depended on them for loans to keep his government afloat as well as "when members of his own family needed financial help." (80)

Kertzer quotes voluminously from Catholic newspapers: "The Jews will be Satan's preferred nation and his preferred instrument...The Jew Freemasons govern the world...in Prussia of 642 bankers, 550 are Jews and in Germany, in Austria and in some parts of the Orient, the word invasion is no exaggeration to express their number, their audacity and their near-irresistible power." (172-3)

Wherever they live "the Jews form a state within a state," an Italian monk wrote in 1825. Unless Christians act quickly, the Jews will finally succeed in reducing the Christians to be their slaves. Woe to us if we close out eyes! The Jews' domination will be hard, inflexible, tyrannical..." (65)

In 1865 the editor of Civilta Cattolica warned of secular Jews joining Masonic secret societies
"which threaten the ruin and extermination of all Christian society."  Such sects "express that anger, that vendetta, and that satanic hate that the Jew harbors against those who--unjustly he believes--deprive him of that absolute dominion over the entire universe that he Jewishly believes God gave him."  (139)

In 1922, the Vienna correspondent for Civilta Cattolica wrote that if present trends continue, "Vienna will be nothing but a Judaic city; property and houses will all be theirs, the Jews will be the bosses and gentlemen and the Christians will be their servants." (273)


JEWS' BLINDNESS TO  LEGITIMATE CAUSES OF ANTI SEMITISM

Like most Jewish intellectuals, Kertzer is incapable of seeing the viewpoint of people his masters wish to despoil. He treats Catholic grievances as delusions and naively argues that Freemasonry was just a way of "providing satisfying social interaction." (p.174) His book was partly sponsored by the Rockefeller Foundation.

Americans eventually will figure out that the Rothschilds and their agents are responsible for the Depression and Obama is their creation and puppet. They will discover that the Illuminati has waged war on humanity for centuries and the US media and education system are a farce. They will recognize the out sized role played by Jews in enacting this diabolical agenda.
That's when Illuminati Jews may again turn ordinary Jews, loyal American citizens, into their scapegoats.

Hopefully, people will also see the huge role played by non-Jewish satanists. For example, the Illuminati Skull and Bones was founded at Yale in 1832 but didn't admit Jews until the 1950's. Their members undermined American life from inception. 

Now is the time for people to decide where they stand, with the Illuminati and the "peace" of slaves, or with their fellow citizens and freedom.

As Leonard Cohen wrote in his song, "The Future"--"I've seen the future baby and it is murder."

http://www.henrymakow.com/index.html

oiram
25-02-2009, 01:57 AM
"Personal Sovereignty in Crisis" by Brownhawk

http://www.henrymakow.com/initiative.jpg (http://www.henrymakow.com/index.html)
It can be said with confidence that finding a genius of personal initiative, backed with a knowledge of the Illuminati and how they operate, represented by enough of a strength in numbers, and delivered with focused intent, can derail the NWO agenda and send that train careening off the tracks into a crumpled, twisted heap of metal.


        When the 'the colonial rabble'' vanquished the 'invincible' British Army in the Revolutionary War, they were comprised of a small percentage of colonists whose sentiments favored independence from the Crown. The present-day fight can be a successful one provided the 'genius' is based on a clear understanding of personal sovereignty in the most crucial of its aspects.

         In this material world of our perception, I would submit that THE most crucial aspect involves that which virtually everyone in the world has a perceived need for in one form or another: money. What that strength in numbers needs to be clear about in this regard as it concerns a true understanding of personal sovereignty is knowing what a proper definition of money is. Or rather, any such definition must be based on a premise which asserts to what it is not: When ALL the issuance and control of a nation's money is done by those who produce NONE of the material wealth it's supposed to represent then there can be no condition for personal sovereignty to exist. This precisely describes the Federal Reserve System. Many reading this know it's no exaggeration to say its abolishment would be like driving a stake through the heart of a vampire. For all the life-blood it drains from the nation, two words sum up the growing animosity towards those that swell its' ranks. Meant literally and figuratively: they suck. American Presidents who tried to at least check its power were either killed, or in the case with Nixon, a scheme was concocted(Watergate) which resulted in his commiting political suicide. With its inception, Constitutional articles stating that only Congress has the authority to issue money were abrogated. That was almost 100 years ago. At this point it seems like the chances of getting rid of it would be like the chances of a porn star who didn't want sex anymore keeping their job. Capitol Hill is a brothel. The Congress by and large are whores, the pimps are the giant corporate interests who have the politicians in their back pockets, and we the people are the ones getting screwed. Remember 'Debbie does Dallas?' How about Don Corleone does the U.S.A.?

           This present period in American history is similar to the 1930's. Back then it was FDR insisting and convincing Americans that they needed their government to be the great 'provider'. Today, as it would certainly appear, it's Obama leading the lemmings closer to going over Big Brother's cliff. No sense in beating around the bush. Without going into the details about this country's military involvements, suffice it to say that being an American these days means that if we make monetary exchanges using Federal Reserve notes then we're complicit with the 'hidden hand' and their wars. It's all blood money, and we all have it on our hands. No getting around it. No way to spin it. We're all enablers. And by doing so we are undermining the integrity of our individuality by falling for, or allowing for this erroneous notion of the need to 'sacrifice' for the 'greater good' of society to manifest. What folly these hypnotists have spawned.

           The American Revolution was fomented by the Rothschilds because financial independence of the colonies is what worried them most. After their unexpected defeat on the battlefield, through agents like Hamilton, they made sure that the umbilical cord to the 'city of London' was never severed. A true national sovereignty was never established. And by extension, neither was a personal one. At least not entirely. A Bill of Rights accomplished it to a point, but not completely. Too bad the inalienable right to not have your pockets picked didn't become one of the original amendments to the Constitution. Alas....

           Fast forward to today and not only have our pockets been picked, but we do so willingly, albeit begrudgingly. At the rate we're going, pretty soon we'll be grovelling for the 'right' to survive. The incessant drumbeat of the NWO gets louder and louder as we continue to provide the bricks for our own prison walls. Time is running out and short of a miraculous number of 'Mr. Smiths' elected and on their way to Washington, what can reasonably be seen as a practical solution? One that runs parallel to spreading the word to hopefully create those Mr. Smiths and educate the dupes of the system to detach them from their Illuminati affiliations? In a word: unplugging.

           If we're going to talk the talk we have to walk the walk. Restoring our personal sovereignty derives its power as an exemplar of human dignity. We need to withdraw from the toxic blood money junk as much as possible while simultaneously keeping the wolves from the door. A good example worthy of everyone's attention is Lakota Nation. They had had enough of broken treaties and cut the cord. It's an easy delusion for a junkie to say he's gonna quit the drug as he's nodding out in his cornflakes. It's high time those of us purporting to be teachers did the same. In the dying words of the Sean Connery character from 'The Untouchables', "What are you prepared to do?"

http://www.henrymakow.com/index.html

livelife
25-02-2009, 02:09 AM
NWO = New World Order

Whats your problem with explaining things here? Its like you want to exclude people from conversations. I will say this whenever a cryptic message appears on this forum so long as I am here I will explain it in full.

NWA = Cracking Hip/Hop, Niggers With Attitude

4 fun not actually referenced here.

fnulnu
25-02-2009, 02:14 AM
NWO = New World Order

Whats your problem with explaining things here? Its like you want to exclude people from conversations. I will say this whenever a cryptic message appears on this forum so long as I am here I will explain it in full.

NWA = Cracking Hip/Hop, Niggers With Attitude

4 fun not actually referenced here.

That's kind of you love.Welcome to the forums :)
Don't worry,when you've typed New World Order 569,230 times,we wont mind if you'd like to resort to acronyms,honest.

livelife
25-02-2009, 03:18 AM
Can anyone remember what the original post was about?

ritchs
25-02-2009, 04:00 AM
That is the point when most of the Military will stop serving TPTB, they will all use Obama's legitimacy as a means to excuse themselves from the situation. They may at first go along with the plan but the thought will soon cross their minds, If I am doing this to these innocent people then this must be happening in my town to my family.

This is where the foreign troops will come in, problem there is that is tantamount to a foreign invasion and most Americans will react as such, unleashing brutal deadly force on the oppressive foreign troops and they will have every right to do so.

Let them see what mettle we have, Bring It on Snakes

Hmmm an old fashioned Texas rattlesnake roundup! :)

ritchs
25-02-2009, 05:27 AM
Yes, I do. But just because something is planned for, doesn't mean it will see any success. They don't know the future any better than you or I. They also far underestimated the resistance and knowledge of their plan.

So many defeatists on this forum. They've been defeated many times. They could just as easily be defeated again. They like to make it seem like they are more in control than they are. They have to be careful or even the members of their own secret societies and round tables will catch on to their real plan.

I can see them being defeated in this. I can already see them backtracking a lot. They probably won't be defeated indefinitely. If they're smart they'll hold off on this a bit, because they're getting to obvious, coupled with how free flowing information is in the modern day, they could find all of their heads impaled on spikes, Tower of London style. Everyone knows who they are, and where they live. It's only a matter of time before an army is battering down their door to whisk them off to be tried for crimes against humanity.

bowtiedaddy you are so right! They want us to to be shitting in our pants. Defeat us psychologically before the battle. They fuck up plenty. Thats why they are sooo far behind schedule. As someone pointed out so accurately in a different thread, the ill looooominutty have proven themselves to be terrible managers. Intimidation is key. Wait till they see what we're made of!!

When I saw a photo of the crowd in Ireland this past saturday of 120,000 people, you know there's very little chance, fancy weapons and all.
And that's saying nothing about China and India and all those places.
Their lips must be burning from crack pipes or something. :)

detroit313
25-02-2009, 06:36 AM
The elite is not perfect people, please stop thinking that. They are human, simple egoinfested humans lusting for more power and sex. They are flawed. Very flawed inbred arrogant scumbags who got lazy and fat.

Their system is coming down as we speak. This financial mess wasnt planned, all these banking bailouts werent planned, its the elite trying to save every last little penny they have.

There will be a new world order. A peaceful and happy one for every single living being on this planet.

cruise4
25-02-2009, 06:46 AM
The financial mess was planned and there's TWO battles coming, not one. The first part is civil strife ie. People versus people (low grade warfare), and when that mess settles down a bit they will step in as saviours. That's when the real trouble starts because in my opinion then we'll see the true horror weapons they really possess. It's well planned and is being well executed, so far. Let's not pretend.

ex sheep
25-02-2009, 09:38 AM
The financial mess was planned and there's TWO battles coming, not one. The first part is civil strife ie. People versus people (low grade warfare), and when that mess settles down a bit they will step in as saviours. That's when the real trouble starts because in my opinion then we'll see the true horror weapons they really possess. It's well planned and is being well executed, so far. Let's not pretend.

Well I was starting to thing we might have a chance here, until you threw water on the fire, but I am glad you did it, brought me back down to reality, where I think celebration is a long way off just yet.

cruise4
25-02-2009, 09:42 AM
We DO have a chance, but we must be realistic and NOT in denial :D If that analysis is correct then one of the challenges we face is to ensure civil strife DOESN'T become totally destructive as that would be self defeating in Part 2. So I aim to HELP people around my community because that's how we just might win. THEIR apparatus of control is a different matter.

lightblessins
25-02-2009, 09:53 AM
i dont think the end of the illuminati is near at all, still most poeple dont have a clue about them, av a clue bout mind control or who they control the world, most just laugh at it. they also dont seem like they r in a downfall, they seem to me like they are getting and keeping an even tighter grip on us all.:)

white knight
25-02-2009, 12:14 PM
The Illuminati won't be around for much longer, and most of the population won't even know they existed when the enlightened one's say good riddance to them.

See they have underestimated us in a huge way. They thought they had us in such a strangle hold that they could slowly and surely implement their so-called NWO while we the people wondered who was really pulling the strings.

Apparently they are behind schedule, unfortunately for them, they have no idea how behind schedule they really are!

Imagine being the leader of country and thinking you have ultimate power to do as you please, so you laugh and take your time implementing your nasty plans one by one not realising that you really have no power at all and that you're only there to actually help us awaken from our dream! (sounds too good to be true doesn't it? :))

Mr Lungold described our current situation very well, he said in order to have change you need resistance, another analogy he used was in order to change a block of ice into water you needed heat or resistance to complete the transformation.

Some of you will think I'm living in a dream world but mark these words people, it will come to pass....and it will feel great to experience the changes we are about to go through.

The NWO types will do their thing and we will do ours full well knowing who will be left to see our divine planet flourish again.

To those on here who think the Illuminati can't be defeated, I say this...

When you have suffered for such a long time under their rule, it's hard to accept that their end is very very near, denial is the first step I believe.

Have a nice day. ;)

ownedtbh
25-02-2009, 01:41 PM
The Illuminati won't be around for much longer, and most of the population won't even know they existed when the enlightened one's say good riddance to them.

See they have underestimated us in a huge way. They thought they had us in such a strangle hold that they could slowly and surely implement their so-called NWO while we the people wondered who was really pulling the strings.

Apparently they are behind schedule, unfortunately for them, they have no idea how behind schedule they really are!

Imagine being the leader of country and thinking you have ultimate power to do as you please, so you laugh and take your time implementing your nasty plans one by one not realising that you really have no power at all and that you're only there to actually help us awaken from our dream! (sounds too good to be true doesn't it? :))

Mr Lungold described our current situation very well, he said in order to have change you need resistance, another analogy he used was in order to change a block of ice into water you needed heat or resistance to complete the transformation.

Some of you will think I'm living in a dream world but mark these words people, it will come to pass....and it will feel great to experience the changes we are about to go through.

The NWO types will do their thing and we will do ours full well knowing who will be left to see our divine planet flourish again.

To those on here who think the Illuminati can't be defeated, I say this...

When you have suffered for such a long time under their rule, it's hard to accept that their end is very very near, denial is the first step I believe.

Have a nice day. ;)

i dont know were you get your information from but wherever it is its totally wrong. they are behind schedule? LOL

do you read any of there books? do you listen to anything any of them have to say? they are far from behind schedule infact there right on track. they predicated the coming riots they say will start around 2010 up untill around 2040-50 by that time most of the world's population will have been wiped out.
and they can bring in there new world order out of the ashes. and what are we seeing now? protests all over the world which will turn into riots in the coming years no doubt. just on time hey?

i would like to know where people are getting this "illuminati is coming to an end" information because its bullshit.

whiterain
25-02-2009, 01:52 PM
who the fuck knows where they planned to be at this moment in time and why argue over it? the only important thing is that they will never get the world they want. they need pretty much everyone to be behind them for their plans to work and although their are still many brainwashed, their are only a tiny percentage who would back them all the way before waking up to the manipulation. for this reason i say they are fucked and have bitten off far more than they can chew. every empire falls

ranran
25-02-2009, 03:25 PM
It takes 2/3 of them only to dissolve the Federal Government. Remember. The US is a union, not a "country". The States are supposed to be sovereign nations. The States created the federal government, and are not supposed to be subservient to it. It is part of the design that if the federal government got out of hand, the states should strip it's authority and reform it.

This is true. Your math is a bit off. They need 2/3 of the states to dissolve the US govt.

problem is that-
1/3 of 50 is 16.6666666666
2/3 of 50 is 33.3333333

ranran
25-02-2009, 03:35 PM
Sorry Mate, I forgot U :)

Check out this video, Dan Itse, NH Reprepresentative give all the links and info.

Enjoy:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M9UZmG-F0g

Thanks. Just prefer to have sources for info. People do make stuff up.

ranran
25-02-2009, 03:52 PM
The financial mess was planned and there's TWO battles coming, not one. The first part is civil strife ie. People versus people (low grade warfare), and when that mess settles down a bit they will step in as saviours. That's when the real trouble starts because in my opinion then we'll see the true horror weapons they really possess. It's well planned and is being well executed, so far. Let's not pretend.

I fail to see how those who would cause the problem can later step in to play savior. While they may have done so in the past, things are different now. The fact is the more and more folks are "waking up" and that is NOT what the NWO want or need.

In 1860 the Southern States seceded from the Union, as was their constitutional right. The issue of slavery caused the North to go to war. In the end New Hampshire has the right to leave if they wish, as do all sovereign states. So long as those who secede do so without "firing a shot" the Feds can't stop them.

Also keep in mind that things started of as an "in your face dictatorship" via the crown. In 1776 this was changed to a "hidden hand dictatorship." The problem faced by the NWO is that in order for them to "complete" the great work, they must once again be an "in your face dictatorship" and many people are now aware of that.

oiram
25-02-2009, 07:35 PM
Majority Of U.S. States Join Sovereignty Movement, Assert 10th Amendment Rights
http://newworldliberty.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/majority-of-us-states-join-sovereignty-movement-assert-10th-amendment-rights/


February 23, 2009

A majority of states have bills passed or have proposed bill which affirm 10th Amendment rights. Some affirm additional rights and/or give specific reasons. New Hampshire has written the most aggressive legislation.

With the economy collapsing, it is a very real and immediate danger that the federal government can turn into a completely criminal and fascist government. They’ll put foreign troops on their streets. They’ll grab people to put in forced labor or concentration camps if they are unemployed or protesting. They’ll conduct experiments on these prisoners.

This is especially true since a private corporation owned by a small group of people, who own over half the world’s wealth, control our currency and monetary policy through the Federal Reserve. They also have such power over the world as a whole through the World Bank, IMF, most other national central banks, numerous well-funded non-government organizations, and numerous corrupted government officials.

The banks want the economy to collapse so they can grab real assets and power. Their whole monetary system is a giant ponzi scheme designed to fail because money is based on the issuance of debt, and the interest owed is not put into the system except through more debt with more interest.

The stock market has dropped 50% in value since this started last year. This is a great depression. The unemployment will rise. The spending of the two bailouts plus the trillions the Federal Reserve has printed will cause inflation to rise sharply. This same situation happened to the Soviet Union. This is not just an economic recession. This is not just about mortgages since the value of mortgages is much less than the spending packages though the financial releveraging of the mortgages in the form of financial derivatives has magnified the problem.

This is largely due to the fact that we’ve been existing on borrowed time running huge trade deficits and growing debt exponentially. Our assets now exceed our debt. We owe more interest than we can possibly earn. The debt ponzi scheme our currency is based has busted and has started the process of collapse. We can’t spend our way out of this because we’re cash and out of credit.

This group of men who own most of the world’s currencies and wealth want complete centralized control of printing money. They also want a powerful undemocratic regional and world government which can usurp the sovereignty of national governments. They want more European Unions. They want a stronger United Nations. They want to push their own agendas, which include population reduction through eugenics. The threat is real and well documented in policy documents and in the main stream press.

The Federal Reserve is essentially doing to the United States exactly what the IMF and World Bank do to third world nations. Unless we wake up and get our head out of our fluoride and Prozac ass, we’re going to find us as a third world nation, if not in the middle of World War III and the Fourth Reich.

The only way we can stop the U.S. government and these banks is through the states. If the states are united, the people are united. If the people are united, the U.S. government ceases to function, and the states are able to reform a functioning and lawful U.S. government.

Armed rebellion is not going to work. It will just result in a lot of dead people because the U.S. government has excessive firepower. Violent rebellion is exactly what the men in control of our money want.

I encourage everyone to write, email, or call their state legislatures to encourage the passage of such bills. You may also wish to contact your federal senators and representative letting them know you’ve lost faith in their ability to represent the people of the United States and are going to your state representatives.

We need stronger legislation with stronger teeth to make a stand peacefully and legally. We must act to prevent what is happening in Arcadia, Iowa, with the Iowa National Guard training for door-to-door gun confiscation. We can’t allow the U.S. government to continue to usurp state sovereignty. If we allow the U.S. government to do this, we’re going to have a lot of dead people in this nation because a lot of people aren’t going to give up their guns and aren’t going to tolerate the U.S. military, corporate militias, and foreign troops invading their communities and homes.

The states may be forced to stand down. However, we started the process of thinking locally to solve our problems and make it through these tough times. We want local, responsible, and focused local law enforcement to maintain order. We don’t want foreign troops and the U.S. military to do this for us.

Whether you agree with everything I put forth or not, a majority of the people do believe the U.S. government is corrupt, out-of-control, and don’t represent the interests of the people. If you don’t agree, you haven’t done the research nor have you paid close enough attention to the news. We’re on the verge of major crisis and change.

Here are a list of states who have passed or proposed bills to affirm 10th Amendment rights. We need to continue to encourage the states to take more specific action because of the very real dangers. I’ll try to keep this list updated with links.

2009: Arkansas - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Funding Issues

2009: Arizona - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment

1994: California - 10th Amendment

1995/96: Georgia - 10th Amendment

2009: Georgia - 10th Amendment

2009: Kansas - 10th Amendment

1997/98: Louisiana - Sovereignty Constitutional Amendment

2009: Michigan - 10th Amendment

2009: Minnesota - 10th Amendment

2009: Missouri - Freedom of Choice Act (Abortion), 10th Amendment

2009: Montana - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, 2nd Amendment

2009: New Hampshire - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Federal Reserve, Taxes, Martial Law, 2nd Amendment, Draft/War, Patriot Act, Labor Camps, 1st Amendment

2008: Oklahoma - 10th Amendment, (Other Legislation: No Child Left Behind, Real ID Act)

2009: Oklahoma - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Funding Issues

2009: South Carolina - 9th Amendment, 10 Amendment, Martial Law and Related, 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment

2009: Tennessee - 10th Amendment

2009: Texas - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Funding Issues

2009: Utah - Real ID Act

2009: Washington - 10th Amendment

Republic of Lakotah - Full Independence

* Proposed: Alabama - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment

* Proposed: Alaska

* 1994: Colorado - 10th Amendment

* 1995: Florida - 10th Amendment

* 2008: Hawaii - Full Independence

* Proposed: Idaho [HJM RS18517] - 10th Amendment

* 2009: Indiana - 10th Amendment

* 2009: Iowa - 10th Amendment

* Proposed: Maine

* Proposed: Nevada

* Proposed: Ohio - 10th Amendment

* Proposed: Pennsylvania - 10th Amendment

* Proposed: Virginia - 10th Amendment

* Proposed: West Virginia - Same As New Hampshire

* Some are not verified with the actual state and may have not yet been proposed or passed in the state.

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–jeepndesert

octopusrex
25-02-2009, 08:20 PM
Y´know how to defeat the illuminati?

Don't pick up guns.
Don't pick fights.
Let the illuminati kill the illuminati.

rossus
25-02-2009, 08:30 PM
THEY CAN NOT WIN

Have you not noticed since being born, that everything has balance in life?

Hot and cold

Light and dark

Soft and hard

Everything has duality, which is why I believe war and pestilence, has to turn into light and peace..... it's due. Universal law of balance predicts this.
Universal law of balance huh...

Many place in the universe it's very fucking cold, dark and hard... without any trace of their opposites in millions of miles.
Everything has an opposite but opposites are not always Equally balanced.


this been said,
ofcourse there will come an end to the illuminati's power...
the question is: when

ritchs
26-02-2009, 02:14 AM
Y´know how to defeat the illuminati?

Don't pick up guns.
Don't pick fights.
Let the illuminati kill the illuminati.

You're absolutely right there. Ghandi recognized the power of total non violent resistance. He proposed a nation-wide campaign of nonviolent non-cooperation with the British government. In the end India won independence. What was amazing was that he prevented the whole thing decending into violence. No easy thing.

detroit313
26-02-2009, 06:27 AM
The financial mess was planned and there's TWO battles coming, not one. The first part is civil strife ie. People versus people (low grade warfare), and when that mess settles down a bit they will step in as saviours. That's when the real trouble starts because in my opinion then we'll see the true horror weapons they really possess. It's well planned and is being well executed, so far. Let's not pretend.

And you know all of this because you are part of the elite!?!?!?!? Or perhaps The All Knowing One himself!?!?! MWuahahhahaa No One knows, stop pretending you do.

I have read dozens of books claiming the NWO was to get finalized before 1990. Then it was supposed to finalize before 2000........now its 2012...........someone is not telling the truth here.

Example: remember Bush SR in 1990 talking about the NWO coming being very close to completion....mmmmmmmmmmm.........HELLO........NWO ............where art thou!?!?!?!

The NWO plans are definitely not going as planned.

knightbk
26-02-2009, 06:43 AM
lol

The OP is crazy.

mightiswrong
26-02-2009, 07:06 AM
A germinating seed will not try to push a stone out of its way. Instead it grows around the stone and before long towers high above it. Do not focus your attention on the stone for it is insignificant. Focus on your goal. Do not recognise resistance as a force more powerful than yourself. Resistance is what supports a bird flying high. Maintain your beat and sore higher. You are your greatest leader. Great warrior take the lead. Others will soon take the hint. May the future be great and free. A most wonderful paradise awaits us.

cognizant
26-02-2009, 07:39 AM
No, we won't. You nonAmericans don't get us. England is so Big Brother it made me sick. The 10th amendment Movement is bipartisan and purely American rebellion. I am looking forward to the tea parties this weekend. People are waking up and they are livid.

When 35 states vote to declare their 10th amendment rights, they may decide to secede and form a new union based on a loose confederation of states LIKE AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE. Eventually, the other states will join the new union too. It is the States that give the Federal government and we can take it back as needed. The federal govt has very limited powers in the Constitution. It will stop the NAU from forming.

And this all fits in perfectly with what the NWO want to achieve!

when the US fragments, and civil wars errupts, as states cant feed there citizens, and it may take a while but the US will be begging for a NWO to 'save' them!

cognizant
26-02-2009, 07:42 AM
No, the South seceded because of States rights, NOT slavery.

I fail to see how those who would cause the problem can later step in to play savior. While they may have done so in the past, things are different now. The fact is the more and more folks are "waking up" and that is NOT what the NWO want or need.

In 1860 the Southern States seceded from the Union, as was their constitutional right. The issue of slavery caused the North to go to war. In the end New Hampshire has the right to leave if they wish, as do all sovereign states. So long as those who secede do so without "firing a shot" the Feds can't stop them.

Also keep in mind that things started of as an "in your face dictatorship" via the crown. In 1776 this was changed to a "hidden hand dictatorship." The problem faced by the NWO is that in order for them to "complete" the great work, they must once again be an "in your face dictatorship" and many people are now aware of that.

cruise4
26-02-2009, 07:57 AM
"I fail to see how those who would cause the problem can later step in to play savior."

Because they will 'appear' to be the opposite side ie. Manipulation and reliance on a Constitution is but ONE such sign that is what is going on. You still are not getting to the truth of the matter regarding this bit of paper. I don't even want to argue the case. I know I'm right and time will prove it to be so.

Plus that's only one example.

ranran
26-02-2009, 04:16 PM
No, the South seceded because of States rights, NOT slavery.

That's what I said. Even Lincoln admitted that keeping the UNION together was the reason for going to war, not slavery.

ranran
26-02-2009, 05:25 PM
"I fail to see how those who would cause the problem can later step in to play savior."

Because they will 'appear' to be the opposite side ie. Manipulation and reliance on a Constitution is but ONE such sign that is what is going on. You still are not getting to the truth of the matter regarding this bit of paper. I don't even want to argue the case. I know I'm right and time will prove it to be so.

Plus that's only one example.

Oh Holy One,

I didn't know to whom I was speaking. I know I'm right. Do you now? Unless you know all things, you can't KNOW something. You, the all knowing do not take into consideration, the rest of my post from whence your quote came.

We have been told by others like you "We know that by 2008, Americans will have ID Cards." It's 2009 and I have not seen or been issued any such card.

Your fatalistic view says quite plainly for all to see and hear, "We are all fucked and there's nothing to be done about it."

To paraphrase David Icke -

"The power that these guys use to manipulate and control us is only the power we give away, every single day. When we take it back, game, set and match, it's all over."*

If the people wake up and see that they are being manipulated, those who would claim to be a savior, will be seen for what they are. Game Over.

I don't even want to argue the case. Neither do those in power. If you "know" so much with such absolute certainty, please do enlighten your fellow beings so that we might at least prepare properly to survive the on-coming storm.

* Secrets of the Matrix - 2:21

ritchs
26-02-2009, 06:13 PM
No, we won't. You nonAmericans don't get us. England is so Big Brother it made me sick. The 10th amendment Movement is bipartisan and purely American rebellion. I am looking forward to the tea parties this weekend. People are waking up and they are livid.

When 35 states vote to declare their 10th amendment rights, they may decide to secede and form a new union based on a loose confederation of states LIKE AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE. Eventually, the other states will join the new union too. It is the States that give the Federal government and we can take it back as needed. The federal govt has very limited powers in the Constitution. It will stop the NAU from forming.

Man o Man, How much I wish you are right. We've been so had, so many times. I am wondering if all this is a ruse toward something worse. only time will tell.

detroit313
27-02-2009, 04:44 AM
Oh Holy One,

I didn't know to whom I was speaking. I know I'm right. Do you now? Unless you know all things, you can't KNOW something. You, the all knowing do not take into consideration, the rest of my post from whence your quote came.

We have been told by others like you "We know that by 2008, Americans will have ID Cards." It's 2009 and I have not seen or been issued any such card.

Your fatalistic view says quite plainly for all to see and hear, "We are all fucked and there's nothing to be done about it."

To paraphrase David Icke -

"The power that these guys use to manipulate and control us is only the power we give away, every single day. When we take it back, game, set and match, it's all over."*

If the people wake up and see that they are being manipulated, those who would claim to be a savior, will be seen for what they are. Game Over.

Neither do those in power. If you "know" so much with such absolute certainty, please do enlighten your fellow beings so that we might at least prepare properly to survive the on-coming storm.

* Secrets of the Matrix - 2:21

Great post mate, i agree 110%.

People like cruise4 might aswell try to join the elite because all he is doing with his posts is put more fear in the beautiful people that is us.

The elite is not powerful at all, come on about 10.000 old fat guys, thats about it. Kick ass and chew bubblegum people.