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barbitone
30-06-2007, 04:49 AM
They're everywhere. People blaming this that and everything. It's the occult, it's the christians, it's the masons, it's the illuminati, it's the reptilians, it's the.......
:rolleyes:

It's you. It's this. It's NOW. It's wherever you are.

This shouldn't be about right and wrong. Nobody's right or wrong. What the focus should be on is rather the AWARENESS of this truth. It's quite simple.
I don't care if they're trolls or not, they need the information too. We are only ever actually stating what we believe, not the truth. Otherwise we lose the plot, like people are seeming to do on this forum.
I'm not even saying this is the truth, just options of thought. But in doing so I step into an area in which I cannot be wrong in a sense. Because I claim neither. If I say "911 was an inside job" or something for instance, immediately in most conversational situations there are all kinds of barriers here straight away. It should be more like "my current belief is that 911 was an inside job". That's the truth.

Like Bill Hicks said, something like: Your beliefs are just that, it's just how you're taught and raised, it does make them real.

Our whole subjective consciousness is an illusion. Another thing, Illusion does not = bad. I get the impression a lot of people draw this conclusion. Like everything, an illusion is just that, an illusion. The good and bad part comes when you filter it through your ego. Even a paradise, a heaven on Earth is an illusion. It's just an illusion with more intent towards that which IS or life\love.
WE ARE GOD, there's no argument here. Think of it from that perspective. You are the creator of your reality, if you say "such and such is bad" then so it is. If you then say that "such and such is good", so it is. You see where I'm going here? There's no actual such a thing as good and bad, nor right and wrong. And yet of course there is right and wrong. Paradox? Yes...and No.
:D It is what you make it. Same with life, same with creation, same with experience. It can only be as good as you can imagine it to be. You are the creator. You write the script and act it out. But you've forgotten that you are not the character but the driving creative intent behind the whole production.

I'm sorry, moderators, if this is a rant but I thought it would probably go unnoticed in the Rant section (because I don't take much attention myself:D).
You can move it if you wish.

limelady
30-06-2007, 04:57 AM
Hi barbitone,

No need to move it. You've started a thread that
highlights some good points for people to ponder. :)

seanx
30-06-2007, 05:19 AM
They're everywhere. People blaming this that and everything. It's the occult, it's the christians, it's the masons, it's the illuminati, it's the reptilians, it's the.......


It's you. It's this. It's NOW. It's wherever you are.

This shouldn't be about right and wrong. Nobody's right or wrong. What the focus should be on is rather the AWARENESS of this truth. It's quite simple.
I don't care if they're trolls or not, they need the information too. We are only ever actually stating what we believe, not the truth. Otherwise we lose the plot, like people are seeming to do on this forum.
I'm not even saying this is the truth, just options of thought. But in doing so I step into an area in which I cannot be wrong in a sense. Because I claim neither. If I say "911 was an inside job" or something for instance, immediately in most conversational situations there are all kinds of barriers here straight away. It should be more like "my current belief is that 911 was an inside job". That's the truth.

Like Bill Hicks said, something like: Your beliefs are just that, it's just how you're taught and raised, it does make them real.

Our whole subjective consciousness is an illusion. Another thing, Illusion does not = bad. I get the impression a lot of people draw this conclusion. Like everything, an illusion is just that, an illusion. The good and bad part comes when you filter it through your ego. Even a paradise, a heaven on Earth is an illusion. It's just an illusion with more intent towards that which IS or life\love.
WE ARE GOD, there's no argument here. Think of it from that perspective. You are the creator of your reality, if you say "such and such is bad" then so it is. If you then say that "such and such is good", so it is. You see where I'm going here? There's no actual such a thing as good and bad, nor right and wrong. And yet of course there is right and wrong. Paradox? Yes...and No.
It is what you make it. Same with life, same with creation, same with experience. It can only be as good as you can imagine it to be. You are the creator. You write the script and act it out. But you've forgotten that you are not the character but the driving creative intent behind the whole production.

I'm sorry, moderators, if this is a rant but I thought it would probably go unnoticed in the Rant section (because I don't take much attention myself).
You can move it if you wish.

Excellent stuff.

Here is a guy who has an open mind.

Who can think freely....creatively.....who I bet, doesn't give a shit
where his beliefs take him......

A breath of fresh air .....and in total contrast with all the conditioned Christian and masonic thinking that has been dominating the
forum recently.

I konow yuo are an Aussie.. but with your free, rebellous mind... do you have any Irish blood in your family tree?

barbitone
30-06-2007, 05:32 AM
Cheers LimeLady. On that note I shall continue.....:D

Another thing I think about is; does anyone try to imagine just exactly what you actually want? Whats the goal here? Can you even visualize it? You can say "peace" and "freedom" or "love based society" but can you even concieve of it? It's very important. More important than you probably realize.

I could even imagine it being a shock to our consciousness to have complete freedom of mind and peace on Earth and what not. Paradise. It would actually be hard to handle! When I think about it deeply. What would you do? People might say "aw cool I'm free, I can do anything I want! And then it dawns on them...what is that? um.....those new shoes would be good...um.....a big house or something um... you get what I mean. If we were confronted with the reality of heaven like reality in which all your dreams come true the moment you create them in your mind, well, it would actually be exactly what your experiencing now in fact! Your dreams and your nightmares are the same. It's just you saying one is good and one is bad. We manifest them both in this reality and create the illusion of a battle between them in our external life when it is a internal battle inside your being of identifying yourself with the light or the lack of it ie- darkness.

I see humanity as someone stepping on their own foot while trying to get up and move forward. We only have to realize that we are stepping on our own foot and to subsequently stop it and then move on. We don't have to cut the foot off with a sword - because it's evil, because it's holding us back, we just have to step back and see things from a higher perspective.

Some people see this, that they are stepping on their own foot but are so embarrased and ego struck that they choose to deny it or look away. Like Cypher in "The Matrix". And like many people in this matrix. We don't want to know. Even though the knowing is the same as the freeing.

This stuff is hard enough to explain in person let alone through typed words so I hope you can somehow get where I'm going here.....

carlg1212
30-06-2007, 05:41 AM
They're everywhere. People blaming this that and everything. It's the occult, it's the christians, it's the masons, it's the illuminati, it's the reptilians, it's the.......
:rolleyes:

It's you. It's this. It's NOW. It's wherever you are.


It's a concept that's hard for some to understand. We create our reality. If 6 billion people on this Earth moved in the same positive direction, 'they' would be powerless.

But the booze, drugs and television are powerful distractors.

barbitone
30-06-2007, 06:03 AM
Excellent stuff.

Here is a guy who has an open mind.

Who can think freely....creatively.....who I bet, doesn't give a shit
where his beliefs take him......

A breath of fresh air .....and in total contrast with all the conditioned Christian and masonic thinking that has been dominating the
forum recently.

I konow yuo are an Aussie.. but with your free, rebellous mind... do you have any Irish blood in your family tree?

Thanks my friend. Is there any other way?

As a matter of fact I think I do have a good amount of Irish blood, but I don't know to much about me genetic history. My parents are from NZ, but not Maori. That's what sucks about being caucasian, it's all mixed up and hard to follow. I think I've got German and Irish and that sort of thing, actually a touch of Maori in there but only like a 16th or something.

Is there a good reason I would be affected by an Irish gene pool? Tell me about that.... I don't know much about the history of the Irish.

barbitone
30-06-2007, 06:43 AM
It's a concept that's hard for some to understand. We create our reality. If 6 billion people on this Earth moved in the same positive direction, 'they' would be powerless.

But the booze, drugs and television are powerful distractors.

Absolutely.

But just look at the extent they have to go to, to suppress us. It's giagantuan. And through thousands of years. We have been conditioned and conditioned.Constantly kept in survival mode so that we don't start getting back on to our feet.

And what did I need to become aware of it? The REMOVAL of that programming\conditioning and the REMEMBERING (re - member) of how I AM.
The sum total of my experience allowed for that. Every situation, good or bad, led me to the place I am now.

I was fortunate enough to not have any particular view of reality forced on me, besides schooling, which I naturally rebelled against. Now I know the reason behind my actions. I only began to become interested in topics like science and maths and english and everything after I left school because school was actually the container, or barrier of information and possability. I got a D- average because I placed no importance on exams and tests. I demonstrated my understanding of the subjects in the class and could grasp most things easily when I tried. But when the exam came I couldn't concentrate. It is sterile, trivial, systematic, souless context. Schools are like religion, it is the bottle in which spirituality is contained. Spirit has no label by definition. What you wear has nothing to do with spirit. What you believe has nothing to do with spirit. The way you act (or react) has nothing to do with spirit. And yet it is the essence of it all.

Spirit has no boundaries. To place it in a mental box and label it "Christianity" or "Muslim" or anything, is not of benefit to spirit. If you are expected to dress a certain way for instance...why? What has that got to do with spirit?
Religion has hijacked spirituality so that it is covered. "Interested in spirituality? Oh no worries mate, we've got this big room over here call a "church" in which you can be TOLD everything about it. We're the ones that know. The illuminated ones".:D

If you need a book to understand life and your experience then geez......you don't think there might be beings that could take advantage of that? Maybe royals that have the power to twist and edit the book to they're desired outcome? hmmm..... not a very solid foundation.

On the bible.........I have one and every now and then I open it to a random page and read a random passage, because I mean, if it's the word of God then it should have some seriously enlightening words contained in it. But it's just about always something like "and he said this and then he did that and it was good and this person had this many wives and daughters and blah blah blah...... it's all mixed up. It has historical accounts, metaphoric stories, poems, peoples personal thoughts and opinions, peoples visions and dreams....


.....but seriously, dogmas of all kinds are holding the cell keys of our minds and souls. They serve only as barriers against freedom of expression and perception. People say "there's lots of good things about religion" etc....of course there is, there's "good" and "bad" in everything. But the good parts are there for you anyway, you don't need religion for that. Love is free. No cost. Compassion is available anytime. Forgiveness is a power that you already have. Coming together as a community can be done without religious constraints. All these things are already yours, you don't need to ask some guy named Jesus for them. Jesus would be saying "wake the fuck up! you don't need me, I was trying to get you to come to my level which is Christ consciousness. Oneness. You have all this, that's the message." Jesus (assuming he was such) was the name for the vehicle - christ is the name given to the level of consciousness he had. It's Jesus- the Christ.

Sorry that part was a rant.:D

i_am
30-06-2007, 06:51 AM
Absolutely.


.....but seriously, dogmas of all kinds are holding the cell keys of our minds and souls. They serve only as barriers against freedom of expression and perception. People say "there's lots of good things about religion" etc....of course there is, there's "good" and "bad" in everything. But the good parts are there for you anyway, you don't need religion for that. Love is free. No cost. Compassion is available anytime. Forgiveness is a power that you already have. Coming together as a community can be done without religious constraints. All these things are already yours, you don't need to ask some guy named Jesus for them. Jesus would be saying "wake the fuck up! you don't need me, I was trying to get you to come to my level which is Christ consciousness. Oneness. You have all this, that's the message." Jesus (assuming he was such) was the name for the vehicle - christ is the name given to the level of consciousness he had. It's Jesus- the Christ.

Sorry that part was a rant.:D

Not in my book :p

auron
30-06-2007, 07:05 AM
Jesus would be saying "wake the fuck up! you don't need me, I was trying to get you to come to my level which is Christ consciousness. Oneness. You have all this, that's the message." Jesus (assuming he was such) was the name for the vehicle - christ is the name given to the level of consciousness he had. It's Jesus- the Christ.

Oh So true! :)

john white
30-06-2007, 07:28 AM
Jesus would be saying "wake the fuck up! you don't need me, I was trying to get you to come to my level which is Christ consciousness. Oneness. You have all this, that's the message." Jesus (assuming he was such) was the name for the vehicle - christ is the name given to the level of consciousness he had. It's Jesus- the Christ.

Oh So true! :)

Completely. Every Avatar has said the same: and every follower rushes to plug up their ears

Another thing I think about is; does anyone try to imagine just exactly what you actually want? Whats the goal here? Can you even visualize it? You can say "peace" and "freedom" or "love based society" but can you even concieve of it? It's very important. More important than you probably realize

Every day, my mind is set on it: and the answers transcend all the paradigms on this forum. There is so much that has yet to be expressed