There is only one Constable in England

[pleasuredome]

and that constable is "the Queen"

"I, .. <Officer's Name> .. of .. <Police Service> .. do solemnly and sincerely declare and affirm that I will well and truly serve the Queen in the office of constable, with fairness, integrity, diligence and impartiality, upholding fundamental human rights and according equal respect to all people; and that I will, to the best of my power, cause the peace to be kept and preserved and prevent all offences against people and property; and that while I continue to hold the said office I will to the best of my skill and knowledge discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law." (http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=Act+(UK+Public+General)&title=police&Year=1996&searchEnacted=0&extentMatchOnly=0&confersPower=0&blanketAmendment=0&sortAlpha=0&TYPE=QS&PageNumber=1&NavFrom=0&parentActiveTextDocId=2729388&ActiveTextDocId=3444495&filesize=874)

i am now of the opinion that all police in england and wales are only 'police officers', employees of a corporation, enforcing corporation rules. they hold no office of constable, only the queen does as evidenced by the lack of a comma, and im not even sure she does. therefore, if this is the case, they cannot discharge duties under the common law.

as i've said before the queen is now an EU citizen. she is no long a sovereign monarch, but only a 'constitutional sovereign' whatever that means. authority has gone back to every man and woman on the land of england.

i feel there is no choice but to extracate yourself out of the UNITED KINGDOM corporation, make peace with it, and make claim of right to use your person as when you see fit.

[pleasuredome]

nobody is holding a common law office

look at the official oath that judges swear


The Official Oath is in the following form:

I, NAME, do swear that I will well and truly serve Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth in the office of .... So help me God.

the queen was in the office of.... until she became a citizen. the oath is not valid anymore.

all the offices in the common law jurisdiction of england are vacant!

[miked]

nobody is holding a common law office

look at the official oath that judges swear



the queen was in the office of.... until she became a citizen. the oath is not valid anymore.

all the offices in the common law jurisdiction of england are vacant!

Shit! I'm beginning to see now why we were taught to sing "God, save the Queen!"

She needs our help!

If my believes are true, the Admiralty is the ultimate authortity over the armed forces and their duty is simply to protect the Queen and her people (us!).

The strawman is the fictional subject and the living soul is one of her allies, the people.

The forces are there for one reason, that is to protect the people from the fictional, soul less corporations.

The rememdy for corporate tyranny is right there for us we just need to know how to invoke it!

What do you think our troops would rather be doing? Getting blown up by fictional terrorist groups our ridding this land of evil intent?

[pleasuredome]

Shit! I'm beginning to see now why we were taught to sing "God, save the Queen!"

She needs our help!

If my believes are true, the Admiralty is the ultimate authortity over the armed forces and their duty is simply to protect the Queen and her people (us!).

The strawman is the fictional subject and the living soul is one of her allies, the people.

The forces are there for one reason, that is to protect the people from the fictional, soul less corporations.

The rememdy for corporate tyranny is right there for us we just need to know how to invoke it!

What do you think our troops would rather be doing? Getting blown up by fictional terrorist groups our ridding this land of evil intent?

its hard to say whether she is in on it or not. imo, the armed forces have taken oath to the crown also, which seems to conflict. what you're saying maybe right. is it possible to convince, say, the major general in charge of the household division?

[the worm that turned]

its hard to say whether she is in on it or not. imo, the armed forces have taken oath to the crown also, which seems to conflict. what you're saying maybe right. is it possible to convince, say, the major general in charge of the household division?

ooh I sense a military coup! No wonder Tony Blair is never in England anymore.

[miked]

Following on from above;

You know when you are arrested or detained you can make one phone call. I think this is so we can call for the Queen to come and rescue us from the corporate tyranny! It all makes sense! But instead, most people phone a fucking lawyer.

When I get arrested I am going to call in the Paras!!!

[the worm that turned]

Following on from above;

You know when you are arrested or detained you can make one phone call. I think this is so we can call for the Queen to come and rescue us from the corporate tyranny! It all makes sense! But instead, most people phone a fucking lawyer.

When I get arrested I am going to call in the Paras!!!

Why, are you anticipating a headache? :D

[Ian2day]

Is the Queens official residence Windsor castle or Buckingham palace. Is the tower of london still in use.

[rob menard]

I do not read it as the Queen is in the office of constable, but that the one serving does so from that office.

Rob

[pleasuredome]

I do not read it as the Queen is in the office of constable, but that the one serving does so from that office.

Rob

what would be the difference between 'from that office' and "in that office". are they using colour of law?

[rob menard]

Read the whole thing and not just one piece to see the context and realize there is only one interpretation that makes any sense.

Rob

[pleasuredome]

Read the whole thing and not just one piece to see the context and realize there is only one interpretation that makes any sense.

Rob

so, there's a delegation of duties to the officer from the queen in the office of constable?

[rob menard]

Your interpretation that the Queen holds an office of constable is off is my point. The office of constable is held by another, who is serving the Queen and continues to serve as long as the officer holds the office.

Read the whole thing and you will see (provided you are not already attached to one perspective) that later in the section who is the office holder is expressed and the idea that the Queen is holding the office of constable falls hard.

Look at all the times the office or the holder is referred to. Look at who is making the Oath and what they are referred to as. It really is plain to see and the only way your position can even be considered valid is to ignore all the other mentions of officer and office and holder.

Rob

[pleasuredome]

Your interpretation that the Queen holds an office of constable is off is my point. The office of constable is held by another, who is serving the Queen and continues to serve as long as the officer holds the office.

Read the whole thing and you will see (provided you are not already attached to one perspective) that later in the section who is the office holder is expressed and the idea that the Queen is holding the office of constable falls hard.

Look at all the times the office or the holder is referred to. Look at who is making the Oath and what they are referred to as. It really is plain to see and the only way your position can even be considered valid is to ignore all the other mentions of officer and office and holder.

Rob

the only way i can see it from what you say, is that there is a John Doe/JOHN DOE of a corporate fiction (Whatevershire Constabulary) who takes the oath, swearing to serve an unnamed corporate fiction (the queen) to carry out duties in common law office of constable. it makes no sense to me.

if there was a man/woman swearing to serve Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II [soveriegn lady], in the office of constable, then that would make sense to me.

it also says "discharge all the duties thereof faithfully according to law". what law would that be?

what im saying is, if they are swearing oath on behalf of their corporate fiction of a corporate fiction to serve a corporate fiction, how can the office possibly be a common law office?

i agree that the 'authorities' would interpret it the way you say. however, i am of the opinion that the oath has been written ambiguously on purpose. why do i think that? so that they appear to be in a common law office when in reality they only holding office in a commercial capacity.


"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." Matthew 6:24

[spoonogsback]

Hi rob Spoonog here I was discussing this Oath with pleasuredome off line and he is not glued in to one view or another I think as he looks into this deception more and more he can see that there are sometimes many ways to view the wording of what he reads.......so this was just a small glitch along the way......from the get go on this we were simply trying to see if there were any other possible ways of reading the oath to find perhaps an alternate meaning that could somehow release the "office holder" from their duty to serve the freeman-on-the-land. So perhaps he was a little hasty in posting the above comment but in fairness to him after your post and our discussion we are both of the opinion you hold..........A lot of the ones in the "UK CORP" are quite new to this whole concept I think Pleasuredome has only discovered the deception as little as a few months ago whereas you and others abroad have been aware for a lot longer............So some small steps, some misunderstandings along the way once they are discussed on fourums such as this will assist and eventually produce Freemen with inner strength and courage to peacefully and lawfully assert their natural rights and perform their natural duties to themselves and all those arround them.
There is no path to peace. Peace is the path.......(gandhi) i think....LOL still a good quote.

Oh! one more thing we're workin' on a little thingy to aid and assist newcomers to this movement to get to grips with the process of noticing other parties and why they work how come they cant be ignored (cause its what they use right LOL) so were workin on it from a complete newbie perspective Perhaps you'd be kind enough to give it a glance if we send you a copy.............
Spoonogsback.........Still have that pint waitin for ya anytime you say....LOL

[rob menard]

I think they may have missed a comma, or they assumed that because it states previous to that section that the Officer is the one speaking and taking the Oath and at the end it is again expressed that they had their bases covered.

I will take you up on the pint one day.

Rob