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mrmoney
23-02-2009, 05:48 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7905491.stm

Tories may 'ground' troublemakers

Young troublemakers could be confined to their homes, outside school hours, for a month under plans being unveiled by the Conservatives.

In his first major speech as shadow home secretary, Chris Grayling said those who break curfews "should expect to find themselves in the cells".

Police would apply for a court order to "ground" youths for up to a month.

He also said police should be able to take youngsters caught misbehaving to stations and call their parents.

The speech to the Local Government Association was his first major speech since becoming shadow home secretary in January's Tory reshuffle.

Persistent troublemakers

He said tough action was needed to stamp out anti-social behaviour and said 10-year-olds caught causing trouble should be "sent home to bed".

Should the Conservatives win power at the next general election, he said: "I will instruct our police to remove young troublemakers from our streets altogether, not just move them on to disrupt a different street."

Those caught doing "something stupid" should be able to be taken back to police stations and their parents called to come to pick them up.

"We're exploring the best way of making this possible but it's got to be the right thing in some cases," he said.

"I think our police need the power to ground a young persistent troublemaker - in the hope that we can stop them from getting so far into trouble that they end up in the criminal justice system."

"Our police should have powers to go straight to a magistrate and get an order against that troublemaker confining them to their homes for up to a month - except for during school hours. And if they break that curfew order they should expect to find themselves in the cells."

Mr Grayling also said there was a "strong case" to end the 24-hour licensing changes: "It has not created a continental cafe culture - it has just made things worse in many town and city centres."

He said that if the Conservatives won the next election and he was home secretary he would "stop the ridiculous system of cautions that has built up even for serious offences".

'Unacceptable'

More cautions were being used, he said, because "it means case closed - a tick in the box - a crime solved for the official figures to be sent to the Home Office".

There would also be a cut in paperwork police had to do: "If I'm home secretary, the police should expect to get much more freedom to do the job - but I want to make it absolutely clear to our police chiefs that I will expect them to deliver real improvements in return - and if they don't there'll be all hell to pay. "

Mr Grayling added: "The Conservatives are the party of law and order - law and order based on common sense, strong families and communities and a system which places the victim above the criminal.

"Labour has had eleven years and they have collectively failed - their musical chairs based system of home secretaries has left Britain a more dangerous, less civilised place to live in. They have been soft on crime and soft on the causes of crime."

On Sunday Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said it was "unacceptable" for parents not to know what their children did at night, after police in 27 council areas in England picked up and returned 120 youngsters late on Friday.

The police Operation Safeguard was aimed at stopping children becoming victims of, or being drawn into, crime. More than 1,000 young people were spoken to by Staysafe teams, and 103 were referred to other services, the Home Office says.

cruise4
24-02-2009, 03:06 AM
"Those caught doing "something stupid" should be able to be taken back to police stations and their parents called to come to pick them up."

Yes, so lets start with you prats!

unmovedmover
24-02-2009, 03:12 AM
Damn shit is really going into overdrive now isnt it. Like Icke says, the totalitatian tip-toe is in sprint mode.

rewind_bo
24-02-2009, 11:02 AM
I have mixed opinions on this. On one hand it is obvious what they are trying to achieve which everyone should fight against.

But then if you have had to live with these 'kids' in your neighbourhood then this is a godsend - the parents of these kids are mostly uselsss and as long as the kid isnt home they dont care what they are doing.

fnulnu
24-02-2009, 11:09 AM
But then if you have had to live with these 'kids' in your neighbourhood then this is a godsend - the parents of these kids are mostly uselsss and as long as the kid isnt home they dont care what they are doing.

I hear what you're saying,but do you know what? Some teenagers round here were climbing up onto the roof of the building.I didn't know wtf was going-on at first.Thought a blooming molotov cocktail was going to be lobbed through the skylight or something lol.

Went outside and talked to them.Was utterly gobsmacked when they took notice,apologised and never did it again.
Just goes to show,they don't always stab us to death (j/k).

rewind_bo
24-02-2009, 12:05 PM
I hear what you're saying,but do you know what? Some teenagers round here were climbing up onto the roof of the building.I didn't know wtf was going-on at first.Thought a blooming molotov cocktail was going to be lobbed through the skylight or something lol.

Went outside and talked to them.Was utterly gobsmacked when they took notice,apologised and never did it again.
Just goes to show,they don't always stab us to death (j/k).

Yeah i know its not all kids and you dont want to punish them all because of the idiot ones. we used to do stuff but you were always scared your parents would find out - this doesnt bother most the youth of today.

januspolanski
24-02-2009, 02:13 PM
I know Ill get flamed for this but there are some real scumbag kids out there that should be locked away. Not saying its the kids fault but therer really are some little horrors out there.

lizzy
24-02-2009, 04:22 PM
The coming summer of rage.......

"The Plans were All Made Before 9-11,
Loot from Market Goes to Money Heaven,
Now Taxpayers Pay with Bailouts and Buyouts,
And Governments Ready to Deal With Riots,
Portrayed as Power Plays Between the Classes,
Through Media Repetition to the Masses,
Planned Global Takedown, Planned Disorder,
Equality in Poverty from the New World Order,
Private Bankers' Foundations Advising Governments
To Protect Them from Disquieting Uncoverments,
These Private Foundations have Ruled Us for Years,
With Their NGOs Acting as Spears,
Forcing Through Laws, Too Many to List 'em,
To Destroy Nation-States, Hail Global System"

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