oiram
23-02-2009, 01:19 AM
Anyone have any ideas?
They started there Business plan 600 years later so by logic it should say absolutely nothing about it!
1 + 1 = 2
Sorry this is my comm & sense logic!
If they find something then why would they not have written there Book earlier?
My good guess is that the Vatican has a very lot to do with finding this poor Muhammad to educate him to create a opposing force!
Nothing has changed they still playing the same cards!
Opposing sides keeps up the Elites power game!
Lets hope we will find out the truth soon because it is time!
Why is this world so Primitive?
Old Testament
New Testament
Qur'an Testament
Soon you will see the NWO Testament signed by your God & corrupt anti Human money master Rothschild!
Why do they place so much effort in hiding our real History? I believe to know why. To protect there monopoly Monkey business!
This should answers you're question! (Look at all the KEY WORDS THIS MAY GIVES YOU SOME HINTS!) & if you opened minded you should relate the system structure to the Christians Religion also! Only 600 years difference but who was always around playing around with all Books? Yes that's right!
Islam is one of the largest and most popular religions in the world today. Believers in Islam, known as Muslims, can be found all over the globe and the religion has a long and rich history. This Entry deals with the origin and early spread of the religion.
Muhammad1 is often referred to as the founder of Islam. He started by preaching, converted people to the religion, and organised an Islamic army. Muslims believe that there is one all-powerful God (Allah) and that Muhammad was his last prophet; Allah sent down various prophets (including Jesus) but Muhammad was the final one; Muslims have a holy book, called the Qur'an, which they believe is the word of Allah, as dictated to Muhammad.
Muslim dates and Christian dates2 are different. Muslims started their year from the Christian year 622AD. This was the year when Muhammad went from Mecca to Medina - there's more about that later. The typical Christian dates have been used throughout this Entry. Also, to make things even more confusing, many of the cities and countries have changed their names and locations since Muhammad was around.
A Bit of Background Information on Muhammad
Although we have some knowledge of Muhammad today, due to remaining historical records,we are not sure how accurate the records are. Muslims obviously saw Muhammad as a prophet, and may have altered their descriptions of him to fit this.
However, it is generally accepted that Muhammad was born in Mecca, in 570AD or thereabouts. His family was definitely not rich, but was not overly poor. Muhammad was orphaned at the age of six and was sent to live with relatives. He grew up to become a dealer and married a widow, called Khadija, who was a lot older than he was.
When Muhammad was about 40 years old, he went alone to pray in a cave on Mount Hira (just outside Mecca). There he was visited by some sort of supernatural being, who he later referred to as the Angel Gabriel, who dictated various sacred 'texts' that he had to learn. Muhammad claimed that these visitations continued until his death (about twenty years later). The 'texts' he learnt make up the Islamic holy book, the Qur'an.
Muhammad felt that as a prophet of Allah (God) he must transmit Allah's messages to the people. He began preaching throughout Mecca. His wife, other relatives, and a good friend called Abu Bakr became the first converts to the new religion. It is said that Allah called the religion 'Islam' which means something like 'submission to the will of God'. Muhammad began gathering more and more followers, mostly young people.
The Start of Islam
Muhammad preached his new religion throughout Mecca with his friends and family as the first converts. He actually waited for a couple of years after his first vision before he started preaching. Unfortunately, his preaching was not popular with the ruling classes of the city, mainly because it promoted monotheism (belief in one god). Muhammad was offered bribes to discontinue preaching, as well as being threatened, and those who converted were publicly tortured or placed under house arrest. There were also trade sanctions placed against them. In 622AD, soldiers were sent to arrest or murder Muhammad in Mecca, but he managed to flee with Abu Bakr. They hid in caves, with other disciples bringing supplies for them. Eventually, a group left to go to a nearby city Yathrib (which is now called Medina). Yathrib's ruling classes had shown an interest in Muhammad and his work, and were keen in having a sort of unifying force in their city, due to their large number of various divided tribes, including some Jewish ones. The flight to Medina is so important to Muslim people that they have their own special word for it - hegira - and started dating their years from then.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A3577287
Do you get the message? ( I do!)
So my logic tells me if the ruling classeswere not keen at the time there would be no Islam today?? (He & his preaching was a Tool to them & it's still the same story today Islam is a tool for the ruling classes) Just comm & sense!
You know why Muhammad liked young people? They are usually not to smart & they make good dumb fighters to force others to follow!
Did anything change really?
I wished Islamic Religious followers would have the comm & sense & logic to look at there Religion & reality but this is to much to ask for!
This would solve so many problems if they would understand that they are not in a different situation then all other Religions!
We better get the Vatican to release his data & undercover operations from the year 622AD I am sure they have a nice record from that time & who was part of the ruling classes then! Let me have a good guess ........
So who created the Jesus story (Should I have a good guess) Better not hate to get into arguments ............. with all these Religions which are floating around!
mephibosheth
24-02-2009, 02:58 AM
Well, there are Muslims that make the argument that Jesus prophesized the coming of Mohammed, who was said to be the 'spirit of truth' who would 'speak only that which was commanded of him'. Christians interpet this passage in the NT to refer to the so-called holy ghost, but Muslims make a good case that Jesus is speaking of Mohammed, a prophet that would come after him.
Also, there is a passage in Deuteronomy that speaks of the fact that God will raise a prophet from among the people to guide them in the law. So interpret this to include Mohammed. Although opinions vary.
Generally, Islam and Judaism are similar in their laws and practices. Some say that Islam is a purified path that Abraham originally taught.
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