Children do get ritually sacrificed

[siphon880di]

TRAGIC DISCOVERY / WHO IS BABY GRACE AND WHY DID HER LIFE END? / Investigators send out a global plea for clues about slain child in box that ended up on island
"It's despicable that someone would dispose of this little girl's body in the way that they did," said Galveston County sheriff's Sgt. Mike Barry during an emotional news conference Thursday. "We will follow any lead to try to find the identity of Baby Grace."


I believe the story that she was beaten up and then stuffed in a box in an island sounds just too convenient. She could have been ritually killed on the island that is uninhabited.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1KxnMk9TpE

http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2007_4453834

[alexc]

TRAGIC DISCOVERY / WHO IS BABY GRACE AND WHY DID HER LIFE END? / Investigators send out a global plea for clues about slain child in box that ended up on island



I believe the story that she was beaten up and then stuffed in a box in an island sounds just too convenient. She could have been ritually killed on the island that is uninhabited.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1KxnMk9TpE

http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2007_4453834

Dear God that's chilling. Is there any fresh news about her?

[carissac]

TRAGIC DISCOVERY / WHO IS BABY GRACE AND WHY DID HER LIFE END? / Investigators send out a global plea for clues about slain child in box that ended up on island



I believe the story that she was beaten up and then stuffed in a box in an island sounds just too convenient. She could have been ritually killed on the island that is uninhabited.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1KxnMk9TpE

http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2007_4453834


This story is 2 years old, dated 2007. They already discovered who she was, and it was all over the news. Her name was Riley Ann Sawyer, and she was killed - not "ritually sacrificed," because there is a difference - by her mother and the mother's boyfriend.

[alexc]

This story is 2 years old, dated 2007. They already discovered who she was, and it was all over the news. Her name was Riley Ann Sawyer, and she was killed - not "ritually sacrificed," because there is a difference - by her mother and the mother's boyfriend.

From the reading I've done in the last few days, it sounds like they sacrificed her but the investigators thought that would be "too disturbing" to contemplate.

There are also rumors of a taped confession where the mother walked the detectives through the murder, complete with repeating the incantations and spells she said during the ritual killing.

[venusinpisces]

This story is 2 years old, dated 2007. They already discovered who she was, and it was all over the news. Her name was Riley Ann Sawyer, and she was killed - not "ritually sacrificed," because there is a difference - by her mother and the mother's boyfriend.''
Well, that depends on your definition of ritual human sacrifice. If you mean the highly codified kind involving altars, candles etc., then no, this story would not qualify as human sacrifice. But, in my opinion, there are multiple layers to the human sacrifice phenomenon, as there are in all Illuminati activities. One of the ideas that tied this all together for me was Acharya s.'s statement that war itself is a form of ritual human sacrifice. This makes a lot of sense if you look at the way that the military is itself structured similarly to a secret society, with ranks and pyramid type hierarchy.

Ever notice how around the time of the full moon or eclipses there are a lot more murders and overall havoc around he world? Well, maybe the demigods in charge of our reality have minions, of a sort, who can influence non-elite individuals into deviant behavior of the type that resulted in this child's murder. There is also the possibilty that the people involved in this were, in fact, part of a cult or that they were mind controlled by electromagnetics. So, seen this way, the activities that occur around the traditional forms of ritual human sacrifice may actually be a natural extension of Illuminati rituals. Could these supposedly minor events also reinforce and contribute to the mass psychic harvests that happen during energetically potent times like eclipses?
I do think it's important for people to recognize that Illuminati rituals are a distinct phenomenon from your average, every day murder, but at the same time, let's place it within the greater picture!

[meksar]

Ritual sacrifice is done to feed other dimensional entities with the intense emotions the victim goes through during the ritual. They prefer innocent energy which is found in a child 9 years or younger, before puberty and before sexual activity takes place. The black magicians can also absorb the soul of the victim when it leaves the body which gives them a stronger aura and demonic possession.

It is usually only practiced at the core of these occult networks, the inner circle may ritually sacrifice animals particularly goats and cats and the outer circle have mock sacrifices. Over here in the U.K i would say it is heavily practiced in various locations where Freemasons are dominant such as the City of London, Kent, Norfolk, Dorset and Edinburgh to name a few. We only hear about obvious cases like Baby P, Madeline McCann and Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman. However they mainly target children from care homes, neglectful families and snatch them when most vulnerable, there are stinking cover ups like the Jersey Care homes.

If you do the research, despite what the media tell you these were more than the work of a lone crazed lunatic like Ian Huntley for example, but instead part of a larger occult gathering. Many woodlands in the UK are owned by the City of London, and just last week i read in the Evening Standard that Michael Howard's(a Khazar vampire if i ever saw one) home had "extensive woodland". Some of the things these demons take pleasure in doing is just outright cruel and wicked.

[meksar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhoX2rvnMBI&feature=PlayList&p=0BEE105AAEB1F735&index=3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHBf9Ik0stQ

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5290

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=67&contentid=3982&page=2

Blonde Hair Blue Eyes(Reptilians favored blood to drink) on a masonic floorboard.
http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/uploads/images/p2_Baby%20P_bottom%231%23.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NSOTarmq1c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW7-UskI3To

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmulpob8s9k&feature=PlayList&p=1CA188DDABBD5E55&index=6

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23701982-details/Top+Tory+claimed+%C2%A317,000+for+gardening+at+Ken t+home/article.do

[meksar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnlXGFJJbjo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm0YhjeIs0s&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoyN1XUyOOA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfehgw8sMpE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF6CXl-SCh8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNCsbdsjs8c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On8lgEk-J5w&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Vfe2Liuws&feature=related

[meksar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWXkxgUhik8&feature=PlayList&p=7D7451922638AF71&index=9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjNptqYhZv0&feature=PlayList&p=7D7451922638AF71&index=10

[earthwalkr]

You are correct, Meksar. You have done extensive research that is good. For a time, I lived around Mt. Shasta, CA. A very active occult and underground base there. The lava caves just north of the mountain were the site of many ritual deaths. They would target new moons more than the full moons for the sacrifices. Also, August 1st, is their "biggie" sacrifice date, even down at the Grove, which I broke into in 2005. Their fence was down in one spot and I crept through to be met with men with guns pointed at me. :eek: It was the day before August 1st and already streams of muckity-mucks had arrived for the festivities. My grandson was with me, (13) and boy was he scared. I lied my way out of there and they hauled our as--- out by golf cart. A good experience overall.
Anyway, kids being sacrificed is real and continues more than you realize. Even babies. They are birthed to be sacrificed. It's all sicko but happening.
Glad to be out of that area.

[alexc]

They are birthed to be sacrificed. It's all sicko but happening.

I wonder what sorts of things actually go on during an abortion. What non-medical rituals are the butchers performing before they take a human life?

[meksar]

You are correct, Meksar. You have done extensive research that is good. For a time, I lived around Mt. Shasta, CA. A very active occult and underground base there. The lava caves just north of the mountain were the site of many ritual deaths. They would target new moons more than the full moons for the sacrifices. Also, August 1st, is their "biggie" sacrifice date, even down at the Grove, which I broke into in 2005. Their fence was down in one spot and I crept through to be met with men with guns pointed at me. :eek: It was the day before August 1st and already streams of muckity-mucks had arrived for the festivities. My grandson was with me, (13) and boy was he scared. I lied my way out of there and they hauled our as--- out by golf cart. A good experience overall.
Anyway, kids being sacrificed is real and continues more than you realize. Even babies. They are birthed to be sacrificed. It's all sicko but happening.
Glad to be out of that area.

Its true that children are being born to be sacrificed, this for me is one of the Reptilian aspects the bible has , Abraham sacrificed his firstborn son to prove his love to God. People like Gordon Brown, David Cameron and John Travolta all lost their first born in what i would call proving their love to God. The bible and other religious texts clearly has a lot of satanic doctrine mixed up with sound doctrine. These sacrifices and abuse of even their own children show you how heartless and cruel these people are, they operate in a state of low vibration.

[marpat]

Ritual sacrifice is done to feed other dimensional entities with the intense emotions the victim goes through during the ritual. They prefer innocent energy which is found in a child 9 years or younger, before puberty and before sexual activity takes place. The black magicians can also absorb the soul of the victim when it leaves the body which gives them a stronger aura and demonic possession.

It is usually only practiced at the core of these occult networks, the inner circle may ritually sacrifice animals particularly goats and cats and the outer circle have mock sacrifices. Over here in the U.K i would say it is heavily practiced in various locations where Freemasons are dominant such as the City of London, Kent, Norfolk, Dorset and Edinburgh to name a few. We only hear about obvious cases like Baby P, Madeline McCann and Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman. However they mainly target children from care homes, neglectful families and snatch them when most vulnerable, there are stinking cover ups like the Jersey Care homes.

If you do the research, despite what the media tell you these were more than the work of a lone crazed lunatic like Ian Huntley for example, but instead part of a larger occult gathering. Many woodlands in the UK are owned by the City of London, and just last week i read in the Evening Standard that Michael Howard's(a Khazar vampire if i ever saw one) home had "extensive woodland". Some of the things these demons take pleasure in doing is just outright cruel and wicked.

What I find odd is that David icke condemns blood sacrifice as an evil thing yet he is a good friend of the zulu shaman Credo muttwa. I looked into the rituals of the zulu and they use a lot of animal sacrifice. Odd how Icke would be friends with a person who is apparently feeding these nasty reptilians.

[squeakamuffin]

Can we have some facts folks?!

If you are going to say that a particular area hosts the murder of children, then something verifiable would be a start.

How many kids disappear in the area locally?

How many are reported missing?

Is there any sign of regular cult activity? (eg: circles, dead animals, weird outsiders loitering etc.)

If you cant even provide some info of this natire you shouldnt waste forum members time.

Verifiable facts please.

[alexc]

Can we have some facts folks?!

It's not exactly hard to find accounts of this sort of thing happening. You're asking for proof that it's widespread, not proof that it exists. We weren't debating if it was widespread. We've been discussing the fact that it exists.

[liquidswords]

Interesting vid posted about the Holli and Jess story, the Dave Starbuck one.

Never realised that story had some 'irregularities'.

To me though, far too many children go missing for it to be random murders or accidents or whatever. There's some definite collusion and pattern to it all.

[siphon880di]

Blonde Hair Blue Eyes(Reptilians favored blood to drink) on a masonic floorboard.


Totally. Watch this video on the masonic floorboard/ black&white checkered floor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuCkLo_vAK0

[meksar]

Can we have some facts folks?!

If you are going to say that a particular area hosts the murder of children, then something verifiable would be a start.

How many kids disappear in the area locally?

How many are reported missing?

Is there any sign of regular cult activity? (eg: circles, dead animals, weird outsiders loitering etc.)

If you cant even provide some info of this natire you shouldnt waste forum members time.

Verifiable facts please.

Did you not hear Dean Warwick talk about child sacrifices at the New Forest in Dorset, he was killed by these cowards for revealing their wickedness.

[siphon880di]

Did you not hear Dean Warwick talk about child sacrifices at the New Forest in Dorset, he was killed by these cowards for revealing their wickedness.

Here are the Dorset freemasons being exposed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPoAdapiZwU

[meksar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhoX2rvnMBI&feature=PlayList&p=0BEE105AAEB1F735&index=3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHBf9Ik0stQ

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5290

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=67&contentid=3982&page=2

Blonde Hair Blue Eyes(Reptilians favored blood to drink) on a masonic floorboard.
http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/uploads/images/p2_Baby%20P_bottom%231%23.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NSOTarmq1c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW7-UskI3To

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmulpob8s9k&feature=PlayList&p=1CA188DDABBD5E55&index=6

[url]http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23701982-details/Top+Tory+claimed+%C2%A317,000+for+gardening+at+Ken t+home/article.do[/url

[adbasque]

Unfortunately that ring is much larger than we think, it's all over the world not just in the US or UK and Europe.

I did mention this once, while I lived in North Africa, I heard a lot of children were missing only to find their bodies few weeks later.

Some with missing organs, some mutilated, so I believe there are two black markets one they sell children to these sick bastards for their rituals.

2) they sell organs to people who would pay a top a dollar, anyway some members of the ring operating in North Africa were caught some have slipped through the net.

I believe they kidnapp a child use him for their ritual, if it gets a little hot they frame some loner, or somebody who has a history of violence.
put him/her in jail and it's all over.

[meksar]

Unfortunately that ring is much larger than we think, it's all over the world not just in the US or UK and Europe.

I did mention this once, while I lived in North Africa, I heard a lot of children were missing only to find their bodies few weeks later.

Some with missing organs, some mutilated, so I believe there are two black markets one they sell children to these sick bastards for their rituals.

2) they sell organs to people who would pay a top a dollar, anyway some members of the ring operating in North Africa were caught some have slipped through the net.

I believe they kidnapp a child use him for their ritual, if it gets a little hot they frame some loner, or somebody who has a history of violence.
put him/her in jail and it's all over.

Absolutely child sacrifice is happening all over the world and there are very dark ritual aspects to it. I read on here about Albino kids being sacrificed in Africa, many voodoo and other indigenous tribes practice sacrifice rituals regularly. Also the child sex ring in the far east in places like Thailand etc, involves a even deeper occult network. It is something that goes right back to Babylon and is a key point in this demon/spirit worship.

[alexc]

Absolutely child sacrifice is happening all over the world and there are very dark ritual aspects to it. I read on here about Albino kids being sacrificed in Africa, many voodoo and other indigenous tribes practice sacrifice rituals regularly. Also the child sex ring in the far east in places like Thailand etc, involves a even deeper occult network. It is something that goes right back to Babylon and is a key point in this demon/spirit worship.

What a lot of people are missing is that many famous people are part of the ring. Michael Jackson for example didn't just molest children at his ranch. He used them for sacrifices. He left the USA not for debt reasons but because it was easier to buy, abuse and sacrifice children in the Middle East.

[meksar]

What a lot of people are missing is that many famous people are part of the ring. Michael Jackson for example didn't just molest children at his ranch. He used them for sacrifices. He left the USA not for debt reasons but because it was easier to buy, abuse and sacrifice children in the Middle East.

So many celebrities are involved in this baphomet cult it is frightening, even ones who most people think are sweet and innocent are in on it. This is what they want as world religion and they will use stars to promote it, many are involved in bisexual alchemy or even lose a loved one to become a "shining star". Once you make a deal with the devil, he will demand a sacrifice and your soul will belong to him.

Michael Jackson was brought into the web i believe by that demonic witch Elizabeth Taylor, he had a great public show of empathy but was a psychopathic and dangerous man behind closed doors. His father abusing him as a child also really messed up his head, Hollywood and the music industry is nothing but one giant satanic sexual cult. The Zionists run both and a lot of people deny this well known fact, if you want to get well paid you fall in line and disregard your decency and righteousness.

[emerald]

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/07/good-child-rearing-ends-wars.html

GOOD CHILD REARING ENDS WARS

The military likes kids who have been abused.

Was George W Bush deprived of sufficient loving hugs and kisses as a child?

Would Hitler have been a more peaceful citizen if he had been given lots of affection by his dad?

Reportedly, the Pentagon likes children to have an abusive childhood.

Children who have had a tough upbringing are more likely to make tough soldiers.

The military-industrial complex does not like soldiers who are civilised human beings.

In the 1940s, Brigadier Gen. S.L.A. Marshall claimed that only 15-20% of America's World War II soldiers would use their weapons in battle.

Not enough soldiers were psychopaths. (On Killing, by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, p. 4 - The Canadian National Newspaper: Twilight of the Psychopaths )

It has been suggested that the media has long been used by the Pentagon in connection with the brainwashing of the public.

The Dark Knight appears to be a piece of brainwashing, perhaps designed to toughen up our youth in preparation for future wars.

The CIA reportedly tries to manufacture violent kids. www.conspiracycards.com/mk_ultra.htm

Lloyd deMause in The Journal of Psychohistory, Winter 1998, refers to The History of Child Abuse.

Lloyd deMause

Among the points made:

1. In past history we find child abuse was common.

In most countries children were sacrificed and mutilated to relieve the guilt of adults.

Today, we continue to arrange the daily killing, maiming, molestation and starvation of children.

2. Child abuse has been 'humanity’s most powerful and most successful ritual'.

Child abuse creates disturbed people.

It has been the cause of war and social violence.

3. A good mother will calm a crying of a baby.

An immature mother, one who feels unloved, will hit a crying baby.

4. What do we know of child care in other cultures?

Among the Bimin-Kuskusmin of New Guinea, mothers "sleep naked against their children until they are about four years old, have orgasms while nursing them and regularly masturbate them."

Pederasty by men is "quite common in pre-literate groups" and was "common in earlier historical times".

Incest "has been universal for most children in most cultures in most times".

"A childhood more or less free from adult sexual use is in fact a very late historical achievement."

5. In America, scientific studies report that 30 % of men and 40 % of women remember having been 'sexually molested' during childhood.

"About half of these are directly incestuous, with the family members, the other half usually being with others, but with the complicity of caretakers in at least 80 percent of the cases."

81 % of these 'seductions' occur before puberty and 42 % under age 7.

"Latin American family sexual activity - particularly widespread pederasty as part of macho sexuality - is considered even more widespread."

In Germany, "the Institut fur Kindheit has recently concluded a survey asking West Berlin schoolchildren about their sexual experiences, and 80 percent reported having been molested."

"Childhood in India begins, according to observers, with the child being regularly masturbated by the mother, the girl 'to make her sleep well,' the boy 'to make him manly.'"

"The child is often 'borrowed' to sleep with other members of the extended household, leading to the Indian proverb that 'For a girl to be a virgin at ten years old, she must have neither brothers nor cousin nor father.'

Child marriage is a long-standing Indian practice.

"The Indian subcontinent, in fact, still has many groups, such as the Baiga, where actual incestuous marriage is practiced, between fathers and daughters, between mothers and sons, between siblings and even between grandparents and their grandchildren."

In China, historically, we find the pederasty of boys, child concubinage, the castration of boys to be used sexually as eunuchs, marriage of young girls to a number of brothers, widespread boy and girl prostitution and the regular sexual use of child servants and slaves.

In contemporary Japan, we find masturbation by mothers 'to put them to sleep.'

'Parents often have intercourse with their children'.

Sleeping with parents 'often continues until the child is ten or fifteen'.

One Japanese study 'found daughters sleeping with their fathers over 20 percent of the time after age 16'.

Lehnert and Landrock

In the Near East, we find 'child marriage, child concubinage, temple prostitution of both boys and girls, parent-child marriage (among the Zoroastrians), sibling marriage (quite common among Egyptians), sex slavery, ritualized pederasty and child prostitution'.

'Mutual masturbation, fellatio and anal intercourse are also said to be common among children, particularly with the older boys using younger children as sex objects'.

'One report found 80 % of Near Eastern women surveyed recalled having been forced into fellatio between the ages of 3 and 6 by older brothers, cousins, uncles and teachers.'

'Arab women know that their spouses are pedophiles and prefer having sex with children to having sex with them.'

'A recent survey of Egyptian girls and women showed 97 percent of uneducated families and 66 percent of educated families still practiced clitoridectomy.'

Lehnert and Landrock

6. "Most early states practiced child sacrifice."

"Typical was Carthage ... The sacrifice was accompanied by a music, wild dancing and riotous orgy..."

"Sacrifice, rape and genital mutilation of young girls continues to take place today in the Andean mountains..."

"These ceremonies, from antiquity to today, resemble closely ... satanic rituals..."

Children’s bodies were particularly useful in curing disease.

"As late as the end of the nineteenth century, men who were brought into Old Bailey for having raped young girls were let go because 'they believed that they were curing themselves of venereal disease.'

7. "The evolution of childhood from incest to love and from abuse to empathy has been a slow, uneven path, but one whose progressive direction is, I think, unmistakable."

"If the parent - the mother, for most of history - is given even the most minimal support by society, the evolution of childhood progresses...

"If little girls are treated particularly badly, they grow up to be mothers who cannot rework their traumas, and history is frozen...

"It is only when changes in childhood occur that ... changes in the brain can occur and societies can begin to progress and move in unpredictable new directions that are more adaptive..."

World War II

8. There are six childrearing modes that I have suggested are common to all groups...

1. The earliest childrearing mode I have called infanticidal.

"I have estimated that perhaps half of all children born in antiquity were killed by their caretakers, declining to about a third in medieval times and dropping to under one percent only by the eighteenth century."

"In most simple societies today in such areas as New Guinea, boys and girls are used sexually by both their mothers and by the men, who gang rape girls and often are also pederasts who use the boys sexually, have boy-wives, or force all the boys to fellate them daily from age seven to fourteen..."

"The Greek and Roman child lived his or her earliest years in an atmosphere of sexual abuse...

"Boys ... were regularly handed over by their parents to neighboring men to be raped...

"Child brothels, rent-a-boy services and sex slavery flourished in every city in antiquity...


"Christianity constructed its central myth of the Father sending his son down to be penetrated by a soldier’s lance in order to restage the common experience of fathers giving their boys to a neighbor to be sexually penetrated.

"Those who accepted the myth, accepted the penetration, and were promised the Father’s love and Mary’s tears in return."


2. "I labeled the second stage the abandoning mode..."

"Through the nineteenth century over half of the children born in Florence, for instance, were dumped into foundling homes at birth, to be picked up by their families - if they lived that long (the majority died) - when they were around five years old, thus avoiding having homes where crying babies disturbed the peace.

"The same abandonment was common in France, where, in 1900, over 90 % of the babies born in Paris were carted out to the countryside to wetnurses at birth. As one author put it, 'mother love' was a late historical achievement, not an instinctual trait...

"The erotic beating of children continued in Christian times...

"Century after century of battered children grew up to batter their own children in turn.


3. By the thirteenth century in the West ... some advanced parents began to practice what I have termed the ambivalent mode of childrearing, where the child was not born completely evil... The mother might herself nurse her infant.

The fifteenth and sixteenth centuries in Western Europe saw vastly improved childrearing.

This "allowed at least some of the schizoid and borderline personalities of antiquity and medieval times - who regularly heard voices and hallucinated visions - to move on to the more integrated, less splitting modern neurotic personality more familiar to recent times...

"The sixteenth-century watershed in childrearing allowed people to reduce splitting and feel real depression for the first time, as can be seen in ... the ability of Protestants to end the good mother/bad mother splitting of Mary/Eve, and the ability to internalize the projective panoply of split Catholic saints/devils into Protestant depressive guilt.

"With this vast improvement in childrearing - in some families at least - the modern world could begin, with the development of science, technology and democratization now being possible in parts of the West."


4. "By the seventeenth century, the intrusive mode of childrearing began, particularly in England, America and France, whereby the child was seen as less full of dangerous projections...

"Intrusive parenting, in essence, began to substitute psychological pressure for physical abuse, so that rather than whipping the child to prevent it from sin, it was, for instance, shut up in the dark closets for hours or left without food, sometimes for days.

"One mother shut her three-year-old boy up in a drawer.

"The intrusive mode required ... a steady pressure on the child to “break its will”...

"John Wesley’s mother said of her babies, “When turned a year old (and some before), they were taught to fear the rod, and to cry softly.”

"A mother wrote of her first battle with her four-month-old infant, “I whipped him til he was actually black and blue, and until I could not whip him any more, and he never gave up one single inch.”

"Religion was a further source of terrorizing. God was said to “hold you over the pit of hell, much as one holds a spider, or some loathsome insect, over the fire”..."


5. "By the nineteenth century’s ... more gentle psychological means began to be used to “socialize” the child.

"The socializing mode is still the main model of upbringing in Western nations, featuring the mother as trainer and the father as provider and protector, and the child is seen as slowly being made to conform to the parents’ model of goodness.

"By the nineteenth century parents ... still sent their children to schools where they were erotically whipped on the bare buttocks and usually buggered by the older boys and masters.

As John Addington Symonds reported his experience as a boy at public school:

"Every boy of good looks had a female name, and was recognized either as a public prostitute or as some bigger fellow’s ‘bitch.’ ... Here and there one could not avoid seeing acts of onanism, mutual masturbation, or the sports of naked boys in bed together...

"Those who tried to pass child labor legislation to reduce horrendous working conditions and hours were labeled Communists...

"Even so, the decrease in parental seduction and beating during the intrusive mode produced an explosion of social innovation, allowing nations to produce the democratic and industrial revolutions of the modern period."


6. "What kind of society might be envisioned by children brought up under the latest childrearing mode - what I have termed the helping mode - whereby a minority of parents are now trying to help their children reach their own goals at each stage of life, rather than socializing them into adult goals - is yet to be seen...

"That helping mode children grow up to be incapable of creating wars is also becoming evident from watching the anti-war activities of my children and those of their friends who have been brought up by other helping mode parents.

"For war is only understandable as a sacrificial ritual in which young men are sent by their parents to be hurt and killed as representatives of the independence-seeking parts of themselves.

"Psychohistorians have regularly found that images on the magazine covers and in political cartoons in the months prior to wars reveal fears of the nation becoming “too soft” and vulnerable, with images of dangerous women threatening to engulf and hurt people...

9. "That all social violence - whether by war, revolution or economic exploitation - is ultimately a consequence of child abuse should not surprise us.

"The propensity to reinflict childhood traumas upon others in socially-approved violence is actually far more able to explain and predict the actual outbreak of wars than the usual economic motivations, and we are likely to continue to undergo our periodic sacrificial rituals of war if the infliction of childhood trauma continues.

"Clear evidence has been published in The Journal of Psychohistory that the more traumatic one’s childhood, the more one is likely to be in favor of military solutions to social problems..."


10. "We cannot be content to only continue to do endless repair work on damaged adults, with more jails and police and therapists and political movements.

"Our task now must be to create an entirely new profession of “child helpers” who can reach out to every new child born on earth and help its parents give it love and independence...

" The success of parenting centers such as the one pioneered in Boulder, Colorado, for instance, has been astonishing.

"Through parenting classes and home visiting by paraprofessionals, they have measurably reduced child abuse, as shown by careful followup studies and by reduced police reports and hospital entrance rates.

"All this has been accomplished with very small monetary outlays, since these parent outreach centers operate mainly with volunteer labor, while it has the potential to save trillions of dollars annually in the costs of social violence, police enforcement, jails and other consequences of the widespread child abuse of today.

"Such a parent support movement would resemble the universal education movement of over a century ago...


"Do we really want to have massive armies and jails and emotionally crippled adults forever?

"Must each generation continue to torture and neglect its children so they repeat the violence and economic exploitation of previous generations?

"Why not achieve meaningful political and social revolution by first achieving a parenting revolution?

"If war, social violence, class domination and economic destruction of wealth are really revenge rituals for childhood trauma, how else can we remove the source of these rituals? How else end child abuse and neglect? How else increase the real wealth of nations, our next generation? How else achieve a world of love and laughter of which we are truly capable?"

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The Military Invades U.S. Schools: How Military Academies Are Being Used to Destroy Public Education

"I don't know if they have tigers in Bhutan, but they certainly have criminals. Well, they do now anyway - ever since Rupert Murdoch's Sky began broadcasting into every home that is. Suddenly their meagre police force no longer has time to assist grannies cross the street because they're too busy chasing all those people who've taken to robbery and murder...

The Portuguese... (have) de-criminalised drugs... Both crime and drug use in Portugal is declining...

"A world without fear, a global societal model based not on proscription of innumerable sins but rather redemption and a single aim of selflessness, is possible..." - Fear and Deterrence, and the Possibility of Redemption

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GOOD CHILD REARING ENDS WARS

The military likes kids who have been abused.

Was George W Bush deprived of sufficient loving hugs and kisses as a child?

Would Hitler have been a more peaceful citizen if he had been given lots of affection by his dad?

Reportedly, the Pentagon likes children to have an abusive childhood.

Children who have had a tough upbringing are more likely to make tough soldiers.

The military-industrial complex does not like soldiers who are civilised human beings.

In the 1940s, Brigadier Gen. S.L.A. Marshall claimed that only 15-20% of America's World War II soldiers would use their weapons in battle.

Not enough soldiers were psychopaths. (On Killing, by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, p. 4 - The Canadian National Newspaper: Twilight of the Psychopaths )

It has been suggested that the media has long been used by the Pentagon in connection with the brainwashing of the public.

The Dark Knight appears to be a piece of brainwashing, perhaps designed to toughen up our youth in preparation for future wars.

The CIA reportedly tries to manufacture violent kids. www.conspiracycards.com/mk_ultra.htm

Lloyd deMause in The Journal of Psychohistory, Winter 1998, refers to The History of Child Abuse.

Lloyd deMause

Among the points made:

1. In past history we find child abuse was common.

In most countries children were sacrificed and mutilated to relieve the guilt of adults.

Today, we continue to arrange the daily killing, maiming, molestation and starvation of children.

2. Child abuse has been 'humanity’s most powerful and most successful ritual'.

Child abuse creates disturbed people.

It has been the cause of war and social violence.

3. A good mother will calm a crying of a baby.

An immature mother, one who feels unloved, will hit a crying baby.

4. What do we know of child care in other cultures?

Among the Bimin-Kuskusmin of New Guinea, mothers "sleep naked against their children until they are about four years old, have orgasms while nursing them and regularly masturbate them."

Pederasty by men is "quite common in pre-literate groups" and was "common in earlier historical times".

Incest "has been universal for most children in most cultures in most times".

"A childhood more or less free from adult sexual use is in fact a very late historical achievement."

5. In America, scientific studies report that 30 % of men and 40 % of women remember having been 'sexually molested' during childhood.

"About half of these are directly incestuous, with the family members, the other half usually being with others, but with the complicity of caretakers in at least 80 percent of the cases."

81 % of these 'seductions' occur before puberty and 42 % under age 7.

"Latin American family sexual activity - particularly widespread pederasty as part of macho sexuality - is considered even more widespread."

In Germany, "the Institut fur Kindheit has recently concluded a survey asking West Berlin schoolchildren about their sexual experiences, and 80 percent reported having been molested."

"Childhood in India begins, according to observers, with the child being regularly masturbated by the mother, the girl 'to make her sleep well,' the boy 'to make him manly.'"

"The child is often 'borrowed' to sleep with other members of the extended household, leading to the Indian proverb that 'For a girl to be a virgin at ten years old, she must have neither brothers nor cousin nor father.'

Child marriage is a long-standing Indian practice.

"The Indian subcontinent, in fact, still has many groups, such as the Baiga, where actual incestuous marriage is practiced, between fathers and daughters, between mothers and sons, between siblings and even between grandparents and their grandchildren."

In China, historically, we find the pederasty of boys, child concubinage, the castration of boys to be used sexually as eunuchs, marriage of young girls to a number of brothers, widespread boy and girl prostitution and the regular sexual use of child servants and slaves.

In contemporary Japan, we find masturbation by mothers 'to put them to sleep.'

'Parents often have intercourse with their children'.

Sleeping with parents 'often continues until the child is ten or fifteen'.

One Japanese study 'found daughters sleeping with their fathers over 20 percent of the time after age 16'.

Lehnert and Landrock

In the Near East, we find 'child marriage, child concubinage, temple prostitution of both boys and girls, parent-child marriage (among the Zoroastrians), sibling marriage (quite common among Egyptians), sex slavery, ritualized pederasty and child prostitution'.

'Mutual masturbation, fellatio and anal intercourse are also said to be common among children, particularly with the older boys using younger children as sex objects'.

'One report found 80 % of Near Eastern women surveyed recalled having been forced into fellatio between the ages of 3 and 6 by older brothers, cousins, uncles and teachers.'

'Arab women know that their spouses are pedophiles and prefer having sex with children to having sex with them.'

'A recent survey of Egyptian girls and women showed 97 percent of uneducated families and 66 percent of educated families still practiced clitoridectomy.'

Lehnert and Landrock

6. "Most early states practiced child sacrifice."

"Typical was Carthage ... The sacrifice was accompanied by a music, wild dancing and riotous orgy..."

"Sacrifice, rape and genital mutilation of young girls continues to take place today in the Andean mountains..."

"These ceremonies, from antiquity to today, resemble closely ... satanic rituals..."

Children’s bodies were particularly useful in curing disease.

"As late as the end of the nineteenth century, men who were brought into Old Bailey for having raped young girls were let go because 'they believed that they were curing themselves of venereal disease.'

7. "The evolution of childhood from incest to love and from abuse to empathy has been a slow, uneven path, but one whose progressive direction is, I think, unmistakable."

"If the parent - the mother, for most of history - is given even the most minimal support by society, the evolution of childhood progresses...

"If little girls are treated particularly badly, they grow up to be mothers who cannot rework their traumas, and history is frozen...

"It is only when changes in childhood occur that ... changes in the brain can occur and societies can begin to progress and move in unpredictable new directions that are more adaptive..."

World War II

8. There are six childrearing modes that I have suggested are common to all groups...

1. The earliest childrearing mode I have called infanticidal.

"I have estimated that perhaps half of all children born in antiquity were killed by their caretakers, declining to about a third in medieval times and dropping to under one percent only by the eighteenth century."

"In most simple societies today in such areas as New Guinea, boys and girls are used sexually by both their mothers and by the men, who gang rape girls and often are also pederasts who use the boys sexually, have boy-wives, or force all the boys to fellate them daily from age seven to fourteen..."

"The Greek and Roman child lived his or her earliest years in an atmosphere of sexual abuse...

"Boys ... were regularly handed over by their parents to neighboring men to be raped...

"Child brothels, rent-a-boy services and sex slavery flourished in every city in antiquity...


"Christianity constructed its central myth of the Father sending his son down to be penetrated by a soldier’s lance in order to restage the common experience of fathers giving their boys to a neighbor to be sexually penetrated.

"Those who accepted the myth, accepted the penetration, and were promised the Father’s love and Mary’s tears in return."


2. "I labeled the second stage the abandoning mode..."

"Through the nineteenth century over half of the children born in Florence, for instance, were dumped into foundling homes at birth, to be picked up by their families - if they lived that long (the majority died) - when they were around five years old, thus avoiding having homes where crying babies disturbed the peace.

"The same abandonment was common in France, where, in 1900, over 90 % of the babies born in Paris were carted out to the countryside to wetnurses at birth. As one author put it, 'mother love' was a late historical achievement, not an instinctual trait...

"The erotic beating of children continued in Christian times...

"Century after century of battered children grew up to batter their own children in turn.


3. By the thirteenth century in the West ... some advanced parents began to practice what I have termed the ambivalent mode of childrearing, where the child was not born completely evil... The mother might herself nurse her infant.

The fifteenth and sixteenth centuries in Western Europe saw vastly improved childrearing.

This "allowed at least some of the schizoid and borderline personalities of antiquity and medieval times - who regularly heard voices and hallucinated visions - to move on to the more integrated, less splitting modern neurotic personality more familiar to recent times...

"The sixteenth-century watershed in childrearing allowed people to reduce splitting and feel real depression for the first time, as can be seen in ... the ability of Protestants to end the good mother/bad mother splitting of Mary/Eve, and the ability to internalize the projective panoply of split Catholic saints/devils into Protestant depressive guilt.

"With this vast improvement in childrearing - in some families at least - the modern world could begin, with the development of science, technology and democratization now being possible in parts of the West."


4. "By the seventeenth century, the intrusive mode of childrearing began, particularly in England, America and France, whereby the child was seen as less full of dangerous projections...

"Intrusive parenting, in essence, began to substitute psychological pressure for physical abuse, so that rather than whipping the child to prevent it from sin, it was, for instance, shut up in the dark closets for hours or left without food, sometimes for days.

"One mother shut her three-year-old boy up in a drawer.

"The intrusive mode required ... a steady pressure on the child to “break its will”...

"John Wesley’s mother said of her babies, “When turned a year old (and some before), they were taught to fear the rod, and to cry softly.”

"A mother wrote of her first battle with her four-month-old infant, “I whipped him til he was actually black and blue, and until I could not whip him any more, and he never gave up one single inch.”

"Religion was a further source of terrorizing. God was said to “hold you over the pit of hell, much as one holds a spider, or some loathsome insect, over the fire”..."


5. "By the nineteenth century’s ... more gentle psychological means began to be used to “socialize” the child.

"The socializing mode is still the main model of upbringing in Western nations, featuring the mother as trainer and the father as provider and protector, and the child is seen as slowly being made to conform to the parents’ model of goodness.

"By the nineteenth century parents ... still sent their children to schools where they were erotically whipped on the bare buttocks and usually buggered by the older boys and masters.

As John Addington Symonds reported his experience as a boy at public school:

"Every boy of good looks had a female name, and was recognized either as a public prostitute or as some bigger fellow’s ‘bitch.’ ... Here and there one could not avoid seeing acts of onanism, mutual masturbation, or the sports of naked boys in bed together...

"Those who tried to pass child labor legislation to reduce horrendous working conditions and hours were labeled Communists...

"Even so, the decrease in parental seduction and beating during the intrusive mode produced an explosion of social innovation, allowing nations to produce the democratic and industrial revolutions of the modern period."


6. "What kind of society might be envisioned by children brought up under the latest childrearing mode - what I have termed the helping mode - whereby a minority of parents are now trying to help their children reach their own goals at each stage of life, rather than socializing them into adult goals - is yet to be seen...

"That helping mode children grow up to be incapable of creating wars is also becoming evident from watching the anti-war activities of my children and those of their friends who have been brought up by other helping mode parents.

"For war is only understandable as a sacrificial ritual in which young men are sent by their parents to be hurt and killed as representatives of the independence-seeking parts of themselves.

"Psychohistorians have regularly found that images on the magazine covers and in political cartoons in the months prior to wars reveal fears of the nation becoming “too soft” and vulnerable, with images of dangerous women threatening to engulf and hurt people...

9. "That all social violence - whether by war, revolution or economic exploitation - is ultimately a consequence of child abuse should not surprise us.

"The propensity to reinflict childhood traumas upon others in socially-approved violence is actually far more able to explain and predict the actual outbreak of wars than the usual economic motivations, and we are likely to continue to undergo our periodic sacrificial rituals of war if the infliction of childhood trauma continues.

"Clear evidence has been published in The Journal of Psychohistory that the more traumatic one’s childhood, the more one is likely to be in favor of military solutions to social problems..."


10. "We cannot be content to only continue to do endless repair work on damaged adults, with more jails and police and therapists and political movements.

"Our task now must be to create an entirely new profession of “child helpers” who can reach out to every new child born on earth and help its parents give it love and independence...

" The success of parenting centers such as the one pioneered in Boulder, Colorado, for instance, has been astonishing.

"Through parenting classes and home visiting by paraprofessionals, they have measurably reduced child abuse, as shown by careful followup studies and by reduced police reports and hospital entrance rates.

"All this has been accomplished with very small monetary outlays, since these parent outreach centers operate mainly with volunteer labor, while it has the potential to save trillions of dollars annually in the costs of social violence, police enforcement, jails and other consequences of the widespread child abuse of today.

"Such a parent support movement would resemble the universal education movement of over a century ago...


"Do we really want to have massive armies and jails and emotionally crippled adults forever?

"Must each generation continue to torture and neglect its children so they repeat the violence and economic exploitation of previous generations?

"Why not achieve meaningful political and social revolution by first achieving a parenting revolution?

"If war, social violence, class domination and economic destruction of wealth are really revenge rituals for childhood trauma, how else can we remove the source of these rituals? How else end child abuse and neglect? How else increase the real wealth of nations, our next generation? How else achieve a world of love and laughter of which we are truly capable?"

~~



The Military Invades U.S. Schools: How Military Academies Are Being Used to Destroy Public Education

"I don't know if they have tigers in Bhutan, but they certainly have criminals. Well, they do now anyway - ever since Rupert Murdoch's Sky began broadcasting into every home that is. Suddenly their meagre police force no longer has time to assist grannies cross the street because they're too busy chasing all those people who've taken to robbery and murder...

The Portuguese... (have) de-criminalised drugs... Both crime and drug use in Portugal is declining...

"A world without fear, a global societal model based not on proscription of innumerable sins but rather redemption and a single aim of selflessness, is possible..." - Fear and Deterrence, and the Possibility of Redemption

A human being who had a troubled childhood is a lot easier to manipulate than the one who has been brought up in an environment of love and care!