The Beatles & Satan or Mind Control

[helloperator]

The....http://educate-yourself.org/cn/colemanbeatlesandAquarianConspiracy01mar07.shtml

sorry.

Did the Committee of 300 really use The Beatles to popularise drugs? Or is that just absolute bullshit?

If The Beatles had have been too successful in this objective, who would have been fit to join the army....surely the Committee of 300 wants army too?

This is why the internet, as gold as it is, is also an unmitigated dump.

T

[universal_]

Who knows, music is very powerful, and instead of assassinating the most influential why not (woe I just had a psychic vision more on that after I finish this)...why not use them on your side if you were the elite.....it sounds very possible...okay so back to the vision.....holy shit what if thats why Lennon left the beatles cus he was not down with that and maybe thats why he was...:eek:

[universal_]

Same reason why destructive hip hop culture is so strong now....instead of introducing crack to ghettos so that they kill each other why not completely destroy them and achieve worse results with garbage music.....

only difference with that and the Beatles...they actually had good songs....

[helloperator]

I just don't buy that they were used as a tool.

That link suggests that words like 'rock' would be introduced to the masses (why I don't know)...but that word dates back decades before The Beatles in its association with music.

[darryl84]

I dont think the powers that be appreciated lennons love and peace spreading stance.

[danster82]

The....http://educate-yourself.org/cn/colemanbeatlesandAquarianConspiracy01mar07.shtml

sorry.

Did the Committee of 300 really use The Beatles to popularise drugs? Or is that just absolute bullshit?

If The Beatles had have been too successful in this objective, who would have been fit to join the army....surely the Committee of 300 wants army too?

This is why the internet, as gold as it is, is also an unmitigated dump.

T

Listen to hey Jude

And see Jude as a young girl in the 70's and obviously around the potential to take drugs. When the beatles refer to "her" in the song replac it with heroin and you will see a whole diffrent song.

Hey jude, dont make it bad.
Take a sad song and make it better. (jude is the sad song and she needs to not make herself feel bad and make it better)
Remember to let her into your heart, (let heroin in to make you feel better in your heart)
Then you can start to make it better.

Hey jude, dont be afraid. (afraid, anxious to take the drug)
You were made to go out and get her. (go out and find the drug(heroin))
The minute you let her under your skin, (needle under the skin)
Then you begin to make it better. (feel better from effect)

And anytime you feel the pain, hey jude, refrain,
Dont carry the world upon your shoulders. (when you feel in pain stop, and think about not carrying this pain)
For well you know that its a fool who plays it cool (people who dont take drugs (playing it cool) are fools)
By making his world a little colder. (not taking it will make your pain worse)

Hey jude, dont let me down. (direct statment from singer of song to not let him down by not taking the drug) (peer pressure from beatles)
You have found her, now go and get her.
Remember to let her into your heart,
Then you can start to make it better.

So let it out and let it in, hey jude, begin, (refrecne to needle injection)
Youre waiting for someone to perform on you. (listener of song might be waiting for someone who already does it to "perfom" on them and do the injection as they are unsure)
And dont you know that its just you, hey jude, youll do, (dont worry its just you do it yourself)
The movement you need is on your shoulder. (the injection goes near the shoulder)

Hey jude, dont make it bad.
Take a sad song and make it better.
Remember to let her under your skin,
Then youll begin to make it
Better better better better better better, oh. (climax as you inject maybe....)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxNKyB8f_p0

[danster82]

Who knows, music is very powerful, and instead of assassinating the most influential why not (woe I just had a psychic vision more on that after I finish this)...why not use them on your side if you were the elite.....it sounds very possible...okay so back to the vision.....holy shit what if thats why Lennon left the beatles cus he was not down with that and maybe thats why he was...:eek:

I think this could be true about lennon because he was genuine to me.

[grachtengordel]

Listen to hey Jude

And see Jude as a young girl in the 70's and obviously around the potential to take drugs. When the beatles refer to "her" in the song replac it with heroin and you will see a whole diffrent song.

wow, THAT IS VERY INTERESTING, I always hated the beatles, especially lennon and mcartney, i mellowed a bit towards harrison after he financed a few good movies so i never paid attention to the lyrics, tried to block it out as more mundane 'stuff'

but that is really insightful, i had never known of the hidden implications in this song. backs up a lot of what i suspected.

[astrochicken]

wow, THAT IS VERY INTERESTING, I always hated the beatles, especially lennon and mcartney, i mellowed a bit towards harrison after he financed a few good movies so i never paid attention to the lyrics, tried to block it out as more mundane 'stuff'

but that is really insightful, i had never known of the hidden implications in this song. backs up a lot of what i suspected.


I've allways loved the beatles (till 66 and paul's replacement) after that they just churned out novelty piano dirges and endless 3-chord blues songs.

The whole beatlemania thing, from my perspective, is all far too contrived!!!!
You don't get the news coverage and the tv shows if you're not helping or part of the agenda.

[polveirbecker]

Hey Jude was originally Hey Jules in regards to John Lennon’s son?

[helloperator]

Listen to hey Jude

And see Jude as a young girl in the 70's and obviously around the potential to take drugs. When the beatles refer to "her" in the song replac it with heroin and you will see a whole diffrent song.

Hey jude, dont make it bad.
Take a sad song and make it better. (jude is the sad song and she needs to not make herself feel bad and make it better)
Remember to let her into your heart, (let heroin in to make you feel better in your heart)
Then you can start to make it better.

Hey jude, dont be afraid. (afraid, anxious to take the drug)
You were made to go out and get her. (go out and find the drug(heroin))
The minute you let her under your skin, (needle under the skin)
Then you begin to make it better. (feel better from effect)

And anytime you feel the pain, hey jude, refrain,
Dont carry the world upon your shoulders. (when you feel in pain stop, and think about not carrying this pain)
For well you know that its a fool who plays it cool (people who dont take drugs (playing it cool) are fools)
By making his world a little colder. (not taking it will make your pain worse)

Hey jude, dont let me down. (direct statment from singer of song to not let him down by not taking the drug) (peer pressure from beatles)
You have found her, now go and get her.
Remember to let her into your heart,
Then you can start to make it better.

So let it out and let it in, hey jude, begin, (refrecne to needle injection)
Youre waiting for someone to perform on you. (listener of song might be waiting for someone who already does it to "perfom" on them and do the injection as they are unsure)
And dont you know that its just you, hey jude, youll do, (dont worry its just you do it yourself)
The movement you need is on your shoulder. (the injection goes near the shoulder)

Hey jude, dont make it bad.
Take a sad song and make it better.
Remember to let her under your skin,
Then youll begin to make it
Better better better better better better, oh. (climax as you inject maybe....)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxNKyB8f_p0

Sure...you could interpret lots of songs like that....as many, many people do at this site:

http://www.songmeanings.net/

It's a running joke that every song is about drugs.

[grachtengordel]

from : http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/40992

Imagine is the evilest song ever written. Just look:

Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isn't hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer,
but I'm not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.

Let us conduct a perfunctory examination of these lyrics.

Imagine there's no heaven...no hell below us

In simpler terms, imagine there's no God, nor morality, no judgement. In such a world there's no
fear of "living for today."

Imagine there's no countries...no religions too

Skipping the sloppy grammar, Lennon is now spelling out the New World Order vision of what many
refer to as the illuminati. But there's more.

Imagine no possessions

Here you have some communism thrown into the pudding.

If only there was a world without heaven and hell, good and evil, where mankind holds no property or sentimental goods, we can all live in peace in a "brotherhood of man." Now why would Lennon write such wicked, rotten, dangerous lyrics? Easy, he was exploited by the leaders of this globalist fascist world takeover they are in the midst of perpetrating on mankind.

There are pretty good researchers out there claiming Lennon, far from being a man of peace, was violent and may have been responsible for the murder of Brian Epstein. Don't laugh this off until you see the evidence. One thing is for certain, immediately after epstein's death, Yoko Ono came into the picture and it may not all be coincidence

Just previous to and after this, Lennon recorded a series of meaningless radical anthems like 'Give Peace A Chance' and 'Woman Is The Nigger Of The World', a song which one can argue whether it is more insulting to women or blacks.

But the ultimate disgrace was a ditty called 'Imagine', which attempts to brainwash and inculcate his listeners in the full NWO agenda. 'Imagine' paints a world with no heaven or hell, that is with no morality, with no countries, possessions or religions. It is a thoroughly dreadful vision of a robotic state without devotion to any higher good; just what the NWO ordered.

During this period, Paul McCartney attacked Lennon's behaviour and his irrational attachment to Ono. Lennon went on a vengeful rampage, posing for a photo of him holding a pig's ears, a mockery of McCartney's Ram album cover and attacked McCartney viciously in a song called 'How Do You Sleep'.
But the ultimate revenge was rumored to have been Ono's. Just prior to McCartney's performance in Japan, he was busted at Tokyo Airport when the police found a small amount of grass in his equipment. McCartney was jailed and in ways he refuses to divulge, the cops forced him to sing 'Yesterday' for them. The humiliation of McCartney was complete and Lennon's vendetta against him stopped.

That freed Lennon to ruin his career with the close cooperation of his Dragon Lady. He now released albums and appeared on stage with her cacaphonious contribution sabotaging his musical integrity.
That was the state of affairs in 1979, when Lennon returned to the studios to record his final album. Once he was dead, the mediocre cuts became hits and even Ono had a number one bestseller. The exact motive for Lennon's death remains unclear but there is no doubt that his killer was mind-controlled and fulfilled a covert operation in the exact mode of most political assassinations since the 1960s.

'IMAGINE'...........http://emmaline1138.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/brave_new_world.jpg?w=184&h=300http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/dark1990/bravenewworld-heads.jpg

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3536993421073315692

[beldazar]

Nice post Gratchen.

I cannot see how its possible for ANY band to reach the top and be as famous as the Beatles without being overseen and working the agenda of TPTB as awful and upsetting as it seems :(

[sade]

When drugs are used CORRECTLY for spiritual purposes they are fine.
When they are used for escaping the real world, for fun and etc = NOT OK.

The Beatles in my eyes never seemed like druggies,
more like hippies who tried to find enlightenment through gurus in india and drugs.
If they preached about something, it was love and peace.
Not to mention that they had too much power and influence over people, especially John Lennon.
TPTB can't afford to have celebrities discussing about love and peace,
because people MIGHT just listen to them!

[onewave]

"Imagine all the people,
living life in peace"

...I know, evil, evil, evil..how did he get away with saying THAT?

He didn't.

Lennon spoke out against the American war on Viet-nam.

Killed by the usual suspects for the usual reasons.

You can find any meaning you want in anything at all.
You're just projecting your own mind onto it.

Whatever about the Beatles, Lennon was a Rebel.

[bradstone]

Remember though that a lot of these young stars in rock music back in the 1960s were extremely young when they got started, and there was much less information publicly available about the so-called Illuminati and the hierarchy of things.

I think that the likes of Lennon realised what they were involved in as the decade rolled on and they became older and wiser as to what was going on around them. Lots of dodgy goings on, but it was still real people, people above the law seemingly - I think putting everything on Tavistock and the like makes us feel that we're fighting some supreme force, but they're only human.

Mick Jagger imho stands out as somebody who was always very aware of the establishment, and despite The Rolling Stones being made out to be the bad boys, he always appeared more of an appeaser to this establishment. And still is.

However, most of these guys were in their early 20s at the time so I'm not sure they would necessarily have been aware of how they were being used (if indeed they were). It's easy to say it with hindsight, but it was a relative age of innocence back then.

[helloperator]

Gratchen, terrible post. Take just one of the lines you raped:

Imagine no possessions.

iopd iphone imovie ithis ithat itunes

i i i i i i i i i i i i i i

Me me me me me me me me me me me

What can I get? What can I have?

Imagine not having materialistic attachments. Stop and think for a second that nobody owns anything. Think about how insane our material world is. Imagine a world where happiness and a sense of contentedness is not linked to what you own or what you can hold in your hands.



...and you think:

Imagine no possessions.

refers to a communist agenda.


Wow.



You're like an angsty schoolboy swinging in the dark trying to hit something, furious and wrong.

[astrochicken]

When drugs are used CORRECTLY for spiritual purposes they are fine.


Woahh... heavy stuff. Define CORRECTLY.

When they are used for escaping the real world, for fun and etc = NOT OK.


I'm spiritual but i'll still whack back some mushies with good, equally enlightened, friends just to have some fun.

I'm also of the type.. the sun is shining it's a beautifull day, i'm sitting in the garden.. "i think i'll go inside and get the bong and some sage leaves."



The Beatles in my eyes never seemed like druggies,
more like hippies who tried to find enlightenment through gurus in india and drugs.
If they preached about something, it was love and peace.
Not to mention that they had too much power and influence over people, especially John Lennon.
TPTB can't afford to have celebrities discussing about love and peace,
because people MIGHT just listen to them!

Agree with all you said there.. although i do think that lennon's handler got him hooked on smack for long enough.

[sade]

Correctly = For spiritual purposes, to become a better person,
to learn about oneself, to help others.
Wrong = All the opposite of above.

Everything done in moderation is fine.
But I still don't see drugs as necessary.
If I need to relax I dance, meditate or take a walk outside.

[boots]

The beatles might have been controlled.

but this song is its not.

All you need is love.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4zy9XFu1894/SBtO3YKPj_I/AAAAAAAAAO0/ckMrx2E5ttE/s400/Collecting++Beatlemania+-+All+You+Need+is+Love+Lyrics.jpg

[helloperator]

Drugs are big on this website because most forum members are very young

[redman]

Gotta laugh when people try and slate Lennon with shit like this. The guy could of easily just went along for the ride and lived his millionaire lifestyle not giving two fucks about the human race. Instead he risked his reputation, career and more importantly his life to spread a message that many of us on here are just now beginning to grasp 30 years later.

Lennon went through exactly the same shit that David Icke went through because he stepped outside of the box he was supposed to be in and started to talk about it publicly. Lennon got ridiculed for his antics and was labeled with the usual and predictable " wacko " title. Just for speaking his truth.

If you think the lyrics to Imagine are somehow in line with what the TPTB want.. ie NWO, then your going to be in for a very big shock if they do get what they want.



Unbelievable that we can now look back at Lennon's career and what he did in his life and there are people making threads like this one. Some people are rather dumb as fuck, or just want to believe in total bull shit.

[Ian2day]

I'm sure that there were people who performed in the musical hall days with a similer amount of reverance as the bands of the last 50 years. Its just that we now have an easy accesible archive of their performances so we can be attached emoptionally to a band. As it is the soundtrack to the ups and downs of fans. So if anyone ever dares to question the media created persona that a band has they get attacked by people who have used the music as a theraputic aid etc.

[redman]

I'm sure that there were people who performed in the musical hall days with a similer amount of reverance as the bands of the last 50 years. Its just that we now have an easy accesible archive of their performances so we can be attached emoptionally to a band. As it is the soundtrack to the ups and downs of fans. So if anyone ever dares to question the media created persona that a band has they get attacked by people who have used the music as a theraputic aid etc.

I'm not talking about the music, I'm talking about the person.


Do you really think when Lennon wrote Imagine he was doing it for evil means. LMAO


Sorry but thats just about as dumb as it gets.

[Ian2day]

I'm not talking about the music, I'm talking about the person.


Do you really think when Lennon wrote Imagine he was doing it for evil means. LMAO


Sorry but thats just about as dumb as it gets.

Putting words in my mouth there. Says more about your intent than my views. I didn't know John so can only go on the media constructed version of him. However after my own experiences of the entertainment industry, I wont be hanging on what the media tells me he was like. Anything and everything can be staged. tptb creates societys heros and the folklore that surrounds them. Culture is a commodity to be owned by them jsut like all aspects of this reality.

[redman]

Putting words in my mouth there. Says more about your intent than my views. I didn't know John so can only go on the media constructed version of him. However after my own experiences of the entertainment industry, I wont be hanging on what the media tells me he was like. Anything and everything can be staged. tptb creates societys heros and the folklore that surrounds them. Culture is a commodity to be owned by them jsut like all aspects of this reality.

No I was pointing out the post made by someone on this thread. If it came across as if I was saying you made that post or agreed with it, then it wasn't intended that way.


Anyway, as for the media and the entertainment business. Yeah totally agree as we all know they stage shit and have heroes and villains etc


But Lennon actually moved away from all that, and wasn't interested in it from the beginning to be perfectly honest with you. Alls I am saying is that Lennon was one that actually stood up against these fuckers in power and actually was not afraid to speak out about it.


If you don't know what Lennon was like then I suggest you go and watch some interviews of him. Or may be do some research.

And that goes for the plum who made this thread too.

[father ted]

The....http://educate-yourself.org/cn/colemanbeatlesandAquarianConspiracy01mar07.shtml

sorry.

Did the Committee of 300 really use The Beatles to popularise drugs? Or is that just absolute bullshit?

If The Beatles had have been too successful in this objective, who would have been fit to join the army....surely the Committee of 300 wants army too?

This is why the internet, as gold as it is, is also an unmitigated dump.

T


That website just takes info from elsewhere, their own articles are rubbish.
You need to find the original source, which is John Coleman's Commitee of 300, you'll find it free on the web.

IMO the illuminati wanted to controll the masses via lsd and they were partially successfull. Look what happened to those flower power yuppie spoiled pricks of that generation and how they turned out- like everything they were supposed to despize.

[nemesis]

IMO the illuminati wanted to controll the masses via lsd and they were partially successfull. Look what happened to those flower power yuppie spoiled pricks of that generation and how they turned out- like everything they were supposed to despize.

I'm not sure if the John Coleman stuff is based on the Aquarian Conspiracy Book or the other way around but it does make for a great conspiracy though its hard to tell sometimes which is more fiction than fact.

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=AquarianConspiracy

The real problem is some of this stuff is passed on without some people questioning the sources, i.e that Theodor Adorno wrote all the Beatles music from around 1967 onwards. Theres hardly any proof of this at all, but it does make for a great conspiracy, espcially when the Manson stuff is taken into context. Their music did change a lot from Rubber Soul/Revolver but i say its more credit to George Martin & the talents of Lennon & Co.

Though its hard not to look at the 60s a one big giant conspiracy, theres so many connections & as you say the LSD arrived just in time, the period from 64-67 seemed like something out of a 60s Eurospy movie everything was going fine, then The deaths of RFK, MLK, the Altamont & Manson Icidents, the dream was definatley over.

There was two good shows done about the 60s conspiracy done by the spaceman back in 06, best to take some of it with a pinch of salt, though many of the connections do add up, its still a good thing to re-check the sources as theres so many points involved.

http://www.mediafire.com/?5zvuzxixwzd

http://www.mediafire.com/?bljmid1mfyy

[Ian2day]

I found the committe of 300 book to be very hard going. In fact I have not finished it. It gave me headaches! Must be the new paradigms coming up against cognitive dissonace in one of my alters.

[decode reality]

from : http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/40992



'IMAGINE'...........http://emmaline1138.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/brave_new_world.jpg?w=184&h=300http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/dark1990/bravenewworld-heads.jpg

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3536993421073315692

I haven't seen the film Barry Chamish is referring to. If I've read the article correctly, I'm assuming it uses Lennon's song but places it into a context that promotes the elite's agenda.

I honestly don't believe that was Lennon's motive when penning the song. I know you do, so I think we'll just have to agree to differ.

By a similar thought process, we could surmise that Bob Marley's song 'Africa Unite' provides evidence that Bob was just a shill creating a manifesto for the EU-styled African Union. That would be plain ridiculous and at best, it would make for a great parody of anti NWO researchers.

[cookiejar]

The....http://educate-yourself.org/cn/colemanbeatlesandAquarianConspiracy01mar07.shtml

sorry.

Did the Committee of 300 really use The Beatles to popularise drugs? Or is that just absolute bullshit?

If The Beatles had have been too successful in this objective, who would have been fit to join the army....surely the Committee of 300 wants army too?

This is why the internet, as gold as it is, is also an unmitigated dump.

T

:( Dont think this is really any use to any one this thread, I want my 10 seconds back for readding this and typing

[decode reality]

:( Dont think this is really any use to any one this thread, I want my 10 seconds back for readding this and typing

'Time is but an illusion', my friend. :D:p

[cookiejar]

'Time is but an illusion', my friend. :D:p

Oh my god! did you really just say that?:(

I must of used and made up 1000's of better point less rubish like that, I am hardcore boy, do not play with the traffic.

Dont fight with Cookie

Dont Drink with Cookie

Dont gamble with Cookie

You will get hurt boy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1aRzoXRPuA&feature=related

[father ted]

:( Dont think this is really any use to any one this thread, I want my 10 seconds back for readding this and typing

In that case, you'll love the "Paul is dead" threads.

[pipsicle]

wow, THAT IS VERY INTERESTING, I always hated the beatles, especially lennon and mcartney, i mellowed a bit towards harrison after he financed a few good movies so i never paid attention to the lyrics, tried to block it out as more mundane 'stuff'

but that is really insightful, i had never known of the hidden implications in this song. backs up a lot of what i suspected.

Sounds plausible to me, I'm afraid.

John seemed to treat Julian as if he were an accident most of the time. It seems one of the few uses John actually had for the poor little boy was as a cover story when he wanted to write about drugs. "Hey Jude" was explained as a means of helping Julian through John's divorce, even though John was largely ignoring his son by this time. "Lucy in the Sky" was supposedly based on one of Julian's drawings. I wonder if Lucy met any flying pigs on her travels.

[decode reality]

The....http://educate-yourself.org/cn/colemanbeatlesandAquarianConspiracy01mar07.shtml

sorry.

Did the Committee of 300 really use The Beatles to popularise drugs? Or is that just absolute bullshit?

If The Beatles had have been too successful in this objective, who would have been fit to join the army....surely the Committee of 300 wants army too?

This is why the internet, as gold as it is, is also an unmitigated dump.

T

I recall reading Coleman's book. Where I think the theory comes across as exactly that- A THEORY- is his mention of Adorno/12 tone atonal music. 12 tone technique is about as far away from pop music as it gets- even the most avant garde is rooted in tonality.

Sorry to use jargon to anyone who isn't a musician.

Apart from that, I can imagine how the elite might use their success to push their agenda.

[drc_]

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'IMAGINE'...........http://emmaline1138.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/brave_new_world.jpg?w=184&h=300http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/dark1990/bravenewworld-heads.jpg

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3536993421073315692

Heh, I understand your point.

But!

Can you not see that there is indeed no heaven above us and hell below us? Both of them are Illuminati creations to control you through fear. The same goes for religions. And there's a big difference between religion and ancient wisdom/spirituality..

Countries? Possessions? Who is to say and judge what belongs to who? The land of this planet belongs to this planet, not to us. We can use it and live on it, but in no way does it belong to us. Nothing does. Belongings are illusions. If I give you my wallet is it still my wallet or has it become yours just because you're holding it? Is it still my property but you're just holding on to it, or did I just give my property away and through that it became yours?

We don't own anything. Ownership is a something people collectively agree upon, just like laws. They don't mean anything unless you obey its meaning. A thief simply doesn't acknowledge that you own something, or better yet he doesn't give a shit that you say it's yours. He's taking it anyway.

The very things Lennon sings about imagining not having, are the very things that have been controlling and enslaving us for many thousands of years. For a big part anyway.

Lennon might have been a lot of things, the same goes for the whole of the Beatles, bunch of Illuminati puppets they were, and I certainly agree on many of those subjects, but this is something I don't really see.

Even the biggest puppets, the evilest charlatans or the greatest dictators sometimes speak actual truth. ;)