Black magic

[daddyzee]

Hi guys

my first post and im clearly looking for answers to rectify the
problems that have occurred in my life.

Im 23 and apparently I have been cursed to not be able to walk, to
have bad eyesight...and to have stomach problems all of which are
manifesting now

1)eyesight -9.00D both eyes (considering laser eye surgery, tho i have
stumbled across EFT for eyes e book lately, 8 week program)
2)ACL ligament removal u
3)stomach problems << i do believe its my fault smoking 2 much

2months ago my parents told me that they met a remote viewer through a
family friend and he warned my father that his life has been in danger
and will be in danger unless they do something about it.
My father skeptical as always..continued to ask the person what does
he know..he said that he remotely viewed many places regarding him and
his family and one place has stuck out as being a source of all the
troubles that my family has sustained spanning across 3 decades.

Many things have failed..businesses, my fathers constant visits in and
out of the jail system, houses being lost, money never been sustained,
arguments within the household, not getting along amongst each other.


the remote viewer finds a place in derelect place in the middle of
nowhere in Pakistan, the village's name Harrappa.

Then they continue up to a grave and begin digging up the grave (all
was established and written down in the remote viewing on a piece of
paper to establish the validity of the viewer and thus everything he
said was correct)

In the grave is found many manifestations of dark majick,
voodoo dolls (each articulately made,
chains and handcuffs (possibly representing my fathers constant trips
the jail cell),
2 dices (chance? never being able to be stable)
3(drawings of a man and his legs covered by snakes...
4)a pigs skull full of writings that say "death death death, no
prosperity no wealth, no peace, may dark beings reside at these
peoples houses day in and day out, so that they get nowhere, and stay
in place, never prospering..


now also amongst all the artifacts found several peopls names were
involved the majick was done on

my father
my mother
me, my brothers and sisters (except two as they werent born yet)
my grandad
my gradma
my nan
my nanna

there names were written all over the artifacts.

We know that the women who did this terrible act was infact my fathers
step mother, she is now deceased but according the scriptures found in
the grave, this curse is for 60 years, whether she is alive or dead.

according to the remote viewer, whereeva this women went she would
curse...there any many places where she has left a trail, but the
place where this grave was found is the main one..

my father's step mum went to three mystics to do this act they are of
3 religious backgrounds are being done by a Muslim, a Christian and a
hindu, and were paid in gold yearly, probably still are, how do i know
this..it was written in the scriptures also as well as the remote
viewer finding it in his visions..

I have probably displayed half the story of what happeneds if you need
any more details please let me know...

How do i protect myself from all this??? i mean come on
seriously..this is like way too much.

What type of work can i do to protect myself from this, eft? huna? i
just dont know where to start?

according to the remote viewer evrything that has happened is a like a
wound..it will take time to heal, he warned my father that he will
work to rectify the problem but if any problems occur to my fathers
step mum's side of the family, he will not be blamed...


my personal background??

failed university still havent told parents..ex drug addict
(marijuana).prone to psychic attacks, i can feel bad energy..and have
a sense of what the future may hold, dreams have manifested badly of
late..i blame my mother going to a mystic and mentioning that I dont
listen to her no more (on being a man - david d'angelo showed me where
i was going wrong so i decided to change and not be manipulated, she
thought oh no im loosing my stranglehold lets go to some mystic who
can get him back in line??)
i have no control of my 6th sense experiences..how can i learn to perfect?

I..have spent a year and a half reading and learning all self help
that i can find on the internet and elsewhere, which has led me to
this site...


My sister who now no longer lives my family...was able to see beings.
how...she had an experience almost like teh exorcist movie..(bloodshot
eyes e.t.c)she revealed truths of all the family members and said 3
years ago everything that i am telling you all today, but nobody
believed her (sad i know).shje said to me that i have a demon with me
all the time...she see's it no...i trust her intuition..she had the
ability to remote view and had what you call...being in alpha state
all the time???.. my parents went to various mystics to dismiss her
ability and claims..or possible close her third eye..from what i know
thats where one can go completely insane..or completely bliss?

she is doing much better from what i know away from family...
somebody experience please comment...how can i protect
myself...what do you make of all this...?where do i start?

Regards

Zee:confused:


p.s. i remember in one of david's videos, he speaks of meeting someone who foretold his future e.t.c any idea if she is still alive and whetehr she'#s accepting visitors?

[octopusrex]

Hi guys

my first post and im clearly looking for answers to rectify the
problems that have occurred in my life.

Im 23 and apparently I have been cursed to not be able to walk, to
have bad eyesight...and to have stomach problems all of which are
manifesting now

1)eyesight -9.00D both eyes (considering laser eye surgery, tho i have
stumbled across EFT for eyes e book lately, 8 week program)
2)ACL ligament removal u
3)stomach problems << i do believe its my fault smoking 2 much

2months ago my parents told me that they met a remote viewer through a
family friend and he warned my father that his life has been in danger
and will be in danger unless they do something about it.
My father skeptical as always..continued to ask the person what does
he know..he said that he remotely viewed many places regarding him and
his family and one place has stuck out as being a source of all the
troubles that my family has sustained spanning across 3 decades.

Many things have failed..businesses, my fathers constant visits in and
out of the jail system, houses being lost, money never been sustained,
arguments within the household, not getting along amongst each other.


the remote viewer finds a place in derelect place in the middle of
nowhere in Pakistan, the village's name Harrappa.

Then they continue up to a grave and begin digging up the grave (all
was established and written down in the remote viewing on a piece of
paper to establish the validity of the viewer and thus everything he
said was correct)

In the grave is found many manifestations of dark majick,
voodoo dolls (each articulately made,
chains and handcuffs (possibly representing my fathers constant trips
the jail cell),
2 dices (chance? never being able to be stable)
3(drawings of a man and his legs covered by snakes...
4)a pigs skull full of writings that say "death death death, no
prosperity no wealth, no peace, may dark beings reside at these
peoples houses day in and day out, so that they get nowhere, and stay
in place, never prospering..


now also amongst all the artifacts found several peopls names were
involved the majick was done on

my father
my mother
me, my brothers and sisters (except two as they werent born yet)
my grandad
my gradma
my nan
my nanna

there names were written all over the artifacts.

We know that the women who did this terrible act was infact my fathers
step mother, she is now deceased but according the scriptures found in
the grave, this curse is for 60 years, whether she is alive or dead.

according to the remote viewer, whereeva this women went she would
curse...there any many places where she has left a trail, but the
place where this grave was found is the main one..

my father's step mum went to three mystics to do this act they are of
3 religious backgrounds are being done by a Muslim, a Christian and a
hindu, and were paid in gold yearly, probably still are, how do i know
this..it was written in the scriptures also as well as the remote
viewer finding it in his visions..

I have probably displayed half the story of what happeneds if you need
any more details please let me know...

How do i protect myself from all this??? i mean come on
seriously..this is like way too much.

What type of work can i do to protect myself from this, eft? huna? i
just dont know where to start?

according to the remote viewer evrything that has happened is a like a
wound..it will take time to heal, he warned my father that he will
work to rectify the problem but if any problems occur to my fathers
step mum's side of the family, he will not be blamed...


my personal background??

failed university still havent told parents..ex drug addict
(marijuana).prone to psychic attacks, i can feel bad energy..and have
a sense of what the future may hold, dreams have manifested badly of
late..i blame my mother going to a mystic and mentioning that I dont
listen to her no more (on being a man - david d'angelo showed me where
i was going wrong so i decided to change and not be manipulated, she
thought oh no im loosing my stranglehold lets go to some mystic who
can get him back in line??)
i have no control of my 6th sense experiences..how can i learn to perfect?

I..have spent a year and a half reading and learning all self help
that i can find on the internet and elsewhere, which has led me to
this site...


My sister who now no longer lives my family...was able to see beings.
how...she had an experience almost like teh exorcist movie..(bloodshot
eyes e.t.c)she revealed truths of all the family members and said 3
years ago everything that i am telling you all today, but nobody
believed her (sad i know).shje said to me that i have a demon with me
all the time...she see's it no...i trust her intuition..she had the
ability to remote view and had what you call...being in alpha state
all the time???.. my parents went to various mystics to dismiss her
ability and claims..or possible close her third eye..from what i know
thats where one can go completely insane..or completely bliss?

she is doing much better from what i know away from family...
somebody experience please comment...how can i protect
myself...what do you make of all this...?where do i start?

Regards

Zee:confused:


p.s. i remember in one of david's videos, he speaks of meeting someone who foretold his future e.t.c any idea if she is still alive and whetehr she'#s accepting visitors?

In my line of work, I´ve delt with a few cases of this kind of stuff. It's your faith in your creator that will get you out of it. Search your heart. Find the name of God that works best for you.. Pray.

[daddyzee]

and what is your line of work?

[armoured_amazon]

It's your faith in your creator that will get you out of it. Search your heart. Find the name of God that works best for you.. Pray.

+1

[octopusrex]

and what is your line of work?

Peyote Shaman.

[daddyzee]

Peyote Shaman.

Thats amazing I am very aware of the first two audiobooks of Carlos Castaneda and the work of Don Juan, what light can you shed on this matter apart from what you have recomended?

One seeks a higher path to this consciousness you speak of.....

[octopusrex]

Thats amazing I am very aware of the first two audiobooks of Carlos Castaneda and the work of Don Juan, what light can you shed on this matter apart from what you have recomended?

One seeks a higher path to this consciousness you speak of.....

Castañeda is nice. Very poetic. First-hand experience is better.

[daddyzee]

Castañeda is nice. Very poetic. First-hand experience is better.

isnt it possible to die from exposure to the peyote plant for someone who dreads going into the unknown astral plane during a trip of hallucegenics like this plant?

[runlikehell]

Peyote Shaman.

Thats Great octopusrex! Great work!

Thats amazing I am very aware of the first two audiobooks of Carlos Castaneda and the work of Don Juan, what light can you shed on this matter apart from what you have recomended?

One seeks a higher path to this consciousness you speak of.....

I read Carlos Castaneda - The Teachings of Don Juan, A Separate Reality, and Journey to Ixtlan, That's some set of books.



Hello daddyzee, ive posted a picture of a medicine card below, with the card discription.

Making a medicine shield could maybe help, Theres a short discription in the commentry below on making a Medicine shield. Make one and hang it up on a wall in your house.

Search google images for a "Medicine shield" and see some examples of what they look like that may help inspire you.


Also a little armadillo ornament in the house, and carrying a Armadillo picture in your wallet, or a key ring ect, can be used as a form of protection, and if your lucky enough, get a shaman to give it a power boost for good luck!


Armadillo Boundaries



http://higheradvisor.com/soulscape/MedCards/28_Armadillo.jpg




Armadillo wears its armor on its back, its medicine a part of its body. Its boundaries of safety are a part of its total being. Armadillo can roll into a ball and never be penetrated by enemies.

What a gift it is to set your boundaries so that harmful words or intentions just roll off. Your lesson is in setting up what you are willing to experience. If you do not wish to experience feeling invaded, just call on Armadillo medicine.

A clue to how to proceed is to make a circle on a piece of paper and see it as a medicine shield. In the body of the shield, write all that you are desiring to have, do, or experience. Include things that give you joy. This sets up boundaries that allow only these chosen experiences to be a part of your life. These boundaries become a shield that wards off the things which are undesirable to you.

The shield reflects what you are and what your will is to others on an unconscious level. Outside of the shield you may put what you are willing to experience "by invitation only," for example a visit from a long lost relative, criticism from friends, or people needing handouts.

If Armadillo has waddled into the cards you chose, it is time to define your space. You may have been too willing to let your home become a bus station.

You may find that you cannot say "no" even when you know that you will have to cancel plans to be obliging. This routine can get old in a hurry!
It may be time to ask yourself the following questions:

1) Am I honoring the time I need for my personal enjoyment?
2) Do others treat me like a doormat?
3) Why do I always get upset when I'm taken for granted?
4) Is there a reason for my being a "yes" person?

All of the answers to these questions relate to setting up boundaries: what you will and won't do; what makes you feel uncomfortable and what is comforting to you.

How you react in any circumstance has to do with your ability to be objective. You cannot be objective if you cannot tell where the other person's personality stops and where yours begins.

If you have no boundaries, you are like a sponge. It will seem as if all the feelings in a room full of people must be yours. Ask yourself if you are really feeling depressed, or if this feeling actually belongs to the person you are talking to.

Then allow Armadillo's armor to slice in-between, giving you back your sense of self.

One last thing, Reguarly cleanse your Medicine Shield, Pic, Ornament, ect with incense and

Search your heart. Find the name of God that works best for you.. Pray.

[octopusrex]

isnt it possible to die from exposure to the peyote plant for someone who dreads going into the unknown astral plane during a trip of hallucegenics like this plant?

You will not die from Peyote.

[daddyzee]

Thats Great octopusrex! Great work!



I read Carlos Castaneda - The Teachings of Don Juan, A Separate Reality, and Journey to Ixtlan, That's some set of books.



Hello daddyzee, ive posted a picture of a medicine card below, with the card discription.

Making a medicine shield could maybe help, Theres a short discription in the commentry below on making a Medicine shield. Make one and hang it up on a wall in your house.

Search google images for a "Medicine shield" and see some examples of what they look like that may help inspire you.


Also a little armadillo ornament in the house, and carrying a Armadillo picture in your wallet, or a key ring ect, can be used as a form of protection, and if your lucky enough, get a shaman to give it a power boost for good luck!


Armadillo Boundaries



http://higheradvisor.com/soulscape/MedCards/28_Armadillo.jpg




Armadillo wears its armor on its back, its medicine a part of its body. Its boundaries of safety are a part of its total being. Armadillo can roll into a ball and never be penetrated by enemies.

What a gift it is to set your boundaries so that harmful words or intentions just roll off. Your lesson is in setting up what you are willing to experience. If you do not wish to experience feeling invaded, just call on Armadillo medicine.

A clue to how to proceed is to make a circle on a piece of paper and see it as a medicine shield. In the body of the shield, write all that you are desiring to have, do, or experience. Include things that give you joy. This sets up boundaries that allow only these chosen experiences to be a part of your life. These boundaries become a shield that wards off the things which are undesirable to you.

The shield reflects what you are and what your will is to others on an unconscious level. Outside of the shield you may put what you are willing to experience "by invitation only," for example a visit from a long lost relative, criticism from friends, or people needing handouts.

If Armadillo has waddled into the cards you chose, it is time to define your space. You may have been too willing to let your home become a bus station.

You may find that you cannot say "no" even when you know that you will have to cancel plans to be obliging. This routine can get old in a hurry!
It may be time to ask yourself the following questions:

1) Am I honoring the time I need for my personal enjoyment?
2) Do others treat me like a doormat?
3) Why do I always get upset when I'm taken for granted?
4) Is there a reason for my being a "yes" person?

All of the answers to these questions relate to setting up boundaries: what you will and won't do; what makes you feel uncomfortable and what is comforting to you.

How you react in any circumstance has to do with your ability to be objective. You cannot be objective if you cannot tell where the other person's personality stops and where yours begins.

If you have no boundaries, you are like a sponge. It will seem as if all the feelings in a room full of people must be yours. Ask yourself if you are really feeling depressed, or if this feeling actually belongs to the person you are talking to.

Then allow Armadillo's armor to slice in-between, giving you back your sense of self.

One last thing, Reguarly cleanse your Medicine Shield, Pic, Ornament, ect with incense and

what you speak of in terms of boundaries is the same as "Dr Paul Dobranskys' - Mind OS

[runlikehell]

what you speak of in terms of boundaries is the same as "Dr Paul Dobranskys' - Mind OS

Sorry daddyzee, what part or parts on boundaries you mean?

Ive not heard Dr Paul Dobransky, what's "Mind OS" could you tell me some stuff about him, what he says about it and the similarites.

[athendraya]

Hello octopusrex

I was wondering how does one aquire this Peyote?

[athendraya]

runlikehell, i have allways used a similer technique with the Tortoise. I have it placed on my back window and visualise it protecting me and my home.

I was thinking of getting a tattoo of a tortoise on my back because the first pathworking i ever did, i was told to meet with my animal giude in that trance i met the Tortoise.

[octopusrex]

Hello octopusrex

I was wondering how does one aquire this Peyote?

Peyote is an endangered sacrament and my basic rule is: once you try it, you better dedicate yourself fully to protecting it.

One place to start:

www.peyoteway.org

These cats are in Arizona and they grow their own. Peyote takes about 20 years of growing from inception before it can be harvested, and we're talking about tiny heads. These cats they got about 20 years into this already.. Maybe 30. So you will be eating stuff they planted. That's a good thing for a whiteboy.

[athendraya]

Thankyou for getting back to me on this. I had heard of the cat plant many years ago and was allways curious.

As a woman who grows and nurtures her own plants, herbs and veg, I have a lot of resept for then. If I was able to obtain this sacred plant have no fear, I would honer and respect it.

[octopusrex]

Thankyou for getting back to me on this. I had heard of the cat plant many years ago and was allways curious.

As a woman who grows and nurtures her own plants, herbs and veg, I have a lot of resept for then. If I was able to obtain this sacred plant have no fear, I would honer and respect it.

Only problem is the weather. Peyote is VERY touchy. Rightdown dastardly.. Needs desert suns of Northern Mexico or Southern US.

[mauviene]

Oh hell, I want to be a peyote shaman!

[runlikehell]

runlikehell, i have allways used a similer technique with the Tortoise. I have it placed on my back window and visualise it protecting me and my home.

I was thinking of getting a tattoo of a tortoise on my back because the first pathworking i ever did, i was told to meet with my animal giude in that trance i met the Tortoise.

That's great! what a great medicine to be bringing into your life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0gfCyeiyM:D

LOL!


Remember the old story of "The Tortoise And The Hare" ;);)

[tonak]

Okay, I'm going to throw a couple idea's your way. But first I'm going to state this. Whatever idea's come your way about rectifying your current situation, it is imperative that you listen to your intuition above yourself. You will always find more answers within, rather than outside.

As far as praying to your creator, if you beleive in a creator with a conciousness, either way i do not beleive this is the answer, for that fact that is looking outside rather than inside. Some beleive that the word god is just a synonym for their higher self, or their intuition. If that is what you beleive then look there for answers but remember to identify it as yourself.

First of all you are on a david icke forum, are you familiar with his teachings? His idea is that the current physical world is a manefestation of our current beleifs, and depending on certain situations, that would only affect a few individuals it is a reflection of yourself. So if you change what you know and beleive in your physical mind, not your spirit then your reality will change. Anything else according to him is called combing the mirror.

Now it is my belief that all changes must come from within, but sometimes to comb the mirror helps to bridge the gap or to retain balance.

But as far as combing the mirror there is a number of things you can do. A couple of which has already been suggested earlier in this thread.

I would begin with your thoughts, our thoughts are the most powerful thing we have in this world, and we have been lead to believe they are nothing. If you keep thinking to yourself im cursed im cursed, its not going to help whatsoever. However if you change your thoughts, showing what you want, Like i am healthy and prosperous, changes will follow. It is important to speak this thoughts in the "now" rather than past of future senses, for tomorrow will never come and yesterday has already passed. It is also helpful to focus on feeling when you try to redefine with thoughts, focus on a chakra or your heart.

Maybe find someone who practices witchcraft and have them bless you, if magic curses you maybe it can help you.

And finially it is good to consider the idea, of going to location the remote viewer has saw, and take all of the materials and burn them. Doing so should destroy the spell.

I could throw more ideas, but i beleive you should focus on the ideas i have given you. Remember trust your intuition ask yourself how you feel about it rather than what you think.

Peace and Love
Dekayed

[athendraya]

Only problem is the weather. Peyote is VERY touchy. Rightdown dastardly.. Needs desert suns of Northern Mexico or Southern US.

Thankyou, I sort of only realised this after i posted lol. I did go to the link you posted and it was really intresting to read all about the spiritual side of things.

I have in my time done halusinagens and had many divine experiances.
But i would love to be out there on a spirit walk in nature close to the divine. I can feel it inside me how life changeing that would be.

Thankyou runlikehell, I do my very best to turn negitive situations in to positive ones. I am a light bringer and my friends call me whitelighter because i only bring positivness where ever i go. yes i am fully aware of the nasties in life but i am not going to let them get me down. I have to make my thoughts good and strong, not just for my own survival but for everyone i care for.

tonak has hit the nail on the head and i could not of said it better

peace and light everyone.

[thirdwave]

Peyote is an endangered sacrament and my basic rule is: once you try it, you better dedicate yourself fully to protecting it.

One place to start:

www.peyoteway.org

These cats are in Arizona and they grow their own. Peyote takes about 20 years of growing from inception before it can be harvested, and we're talking about tiny heads. These cats they got about 20 years into this already.. Maybe 30. So you will be eating stuff they planted. That's a good thing for a whiteboy.


I take it you cant post me a couple to have on a Friday night then? :P

[athendraya]

Can i get it here in England?

[octopusrex]

I take it you cant post me a couple to have on a Friday night then? :P

My life's goal is to make all the sacred plants wholly available to anybody anywhere anytime. Sadly, supplies could be better.:D

[octopusrex]

Can i get it here in England?

I´ve heard it that Manchester has anything and everything a man could want. I don't know much else about England.. and what I do know, I know from Frankfurt am Main.

[athendraya]

Thanks again octopusrex. I will look it it today. :)

[daddyzee]

And finially it is good to consider the idea, of going to location the remote viewer has saw, and take all of the materials and burn them. Doing so should destroy the spell.

funny you say DESTROY them, because the asswipe i.e. remote viewer, told my parents to throw everything in water as he said this will remove the spell.
the viewer also learnt that almost a 1000kg was given in animal sacrifices and that we had to do the same to null the curse, so my father followed his instructiongs and spent almost 300 quid on 1000kg of meat! But the remote viewer also said that this curse is like a deep wound it will take time to heal?

Now tell me something this sounds like witchcraft to me? spells and counter spells!


I would begin with your thoughts, our thoughts are the most powerful thing we have in this world, and we have been lead to believe they are nothing. If you keep thinking to yourself im cursed im cursed, its not going to help whatsoever. However if you change your thoughts, showing what you want, Like i am healthy and prosperous, changes will follow. It is important to speak this thoughts in the "now" rather than past of future senses, for tomorrow will never come and yesterday has already passed. It is also helpful to focus on feeling when you try to redefine with thoughts, focus on a chakra or your heart.

So would i be better to get a hypnosis cd of some sort i.e. Lloyd Glauberman or Richard Bandler?

and finally can you recommend me someone to go to in BabyLondon thats where im from, maybe that person that david icke went to many years ago before he started his mission?

Regards and thank you for your reply, I appreciate it duely.

Zee

[daddyzee]

my beliefs are very limited to all this form of protection, as according to islam, its a form of shirk i.e. idol worship, i use to practise chi kung,
http://www.chi-kung.org/chikung-e/sifu.htm

this helped me greatly get a greater control of my thoughts and so forth, but ever since family found out i was practising qi gong along with my prayer, they warned me that its a form of magic and also the realisation that this curse has been apparent kind of gave up and also i came across literature that spoke of qi gong and other forms of meditation as black magic and that all it really does it keeps your mind at the alpha state so that you can be easily influenced << any views on that?

[thelonious]

<< any views on that?

The ignorant always attack thosed things they don't understand. Don't sweat it; if it works for you and isn't hurting anybody, that's all that matters.

[thirdwave]

My life's goal is to make all the sacred plants wholly available to anybody anywhere anytime. Sadly, supplies could be better.:D

Yeah you are right, these things certainly wake people up and get them thinking...

[tonak]

funny you say DESTROY them, because the asswipe i.e. remote viewer, told my parents to throw everything in water as he said this will remove the spell.
the viewer also learnt that almost a 1000kg was given in animal sacrifices and that we had to do the same to null the curse, so my father followed his instructiongs and spent almost 300 quid on 1000kg of meat! But the remote viewer also said that this curse is like a deep wound it will take time to heal?

Now tell me something this sounds like witchcraft to me? spells and counter spells!




So would i be better to get a hypnosis cd of some sort i.e. Lloyd Glauberman or Richard Bandler?

and finally can you recommend me someone to go to in BabyLondon thats where im from, maybe that person that david icke went to many years ago before he started his mission?

Regards and thank you for your reply, I appreciate it duely.

Zee


The water is good, i was just going off my intuition when i said destroy, maybe both? It is said that water purifies...

It may take time, but if that's what he told you it is most likely going to be so if thats what you believe, change your belief it will end today.

As far as the hypnotist CD idea, i would say if your going to go that route record it yourself with your voice, and say the things in your own way, make sure emphasize feeling as you say them.

I dont know im kind of clouded at this point, but do whatever you feel strongly force, and furthermore whatever works for you

Dont ever let someone else tell you what is right and what is wrong, Dogma is bad, make your own decisions

Love and Peace.