T shirt slogan PUBLIC ORDER OFFENCE - YOUTUBE VID

[vienna]

was watching this funny youtube vid and had my interest roused at the very end

fast forward to the end and note what the police officer says to the girl regarding her T shirt slogan and regarding section 5 Public Oder Act

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEjMZunHIZ0

Public Order Act 1986:

http://www.webtribe.net/~shg/Public%20Order%20Act%201986%20(1986%20c%2064)%20Se ct%204A,%205,%206.htm

[celtic isis]

was watching this funny youtube vid and had my interest roused at the very end

fast forward to the end and note what the police officer says to the girl regarding her T shirt slogan and regarding section 5 Public Oder Act

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEjMZunHIZ0

Public Order Act 1986:

http://www.webtribe.net/~shg/Public%20Order%20Act%201986%20(1986%20c%2064)%20Se ct%204A,%205,%206.htm

lmao and also quite angry at the C*nt robo cop!!!

he wasn't being poilte talking down at her with his gruff accent now was he? lol

excellent vid vienna cheers for sharing :D

haha are you top brass or medium brass :D

also quite scary you can get arrested just for a slogan on a tshirt...? where's the offence lol the poor girl couldn't even ask him a question as to why it was an offence, surely by LAW they have to explain to the person why they can be arrested?

[tien an]

Another Scottish 'sheep-dog'.

I find it offensive being referred to as a 'smart-arse'...

...not very professional.

[scotfree]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7901552.stm
A senior Strathclyde Police officer has denied allegations that officers have "bullied" and "threatened" members of the Glasgow's license trade.

Officer behind the policy of putting bobbies back on beat The Herald


Licensees accuse police of late-night ‘bullying’ The Herald
http://www.theherald.co.uk/mostpopular.var.2490476.mostviewed.licensees_accus e_police_of_latenight_bullying.php

SOME of the biggest names in the Scottish leisure industry have taken the unprecedented step of making unified allegations of police threats and harassment.

A formal complaint has been sent to Strathclyde Chief Constable Stephen House, detailing allegations, including threats to have premises in Glasgow city centre closed.

City nightlife takes on the law The Herald

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[januspolanski]

This is why they dont want cops filmed, It ll show them for what they are, a bunch of moronic robots.

[dankai]

At the end she should have said, "Well chappy, I think you're breaking ordinance Section 5 for saying 'Ass'" and then they should have punched that bitch cop in his face and begun the revolution there.
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So, that was my immediate thoughts after watching it to the end. Right thing to have done would have been to make the T-shirts with out the writing on the back and they would have still been out there collecting money.

...next time Gadget.....next time. Meeerrooww (cat)

[somewarez]

I don't mean this in any offensive way at all, she should have just said I am not going to expose myself in public your asking me to commit a crime ;)

Well anyways I think they did a real good job, its great to see active people out doing a good thing and contributing to awareness!

Good on em :D

SW

[pleasuredome]

wow, serve a notice on that fucking cunt of an officer! :D

[pleasuredome]

where's the offence lol the poor girl couldn't even ask him a question as to why it was an offence, surely by LAW they have to explain to the person why they can be arrested?

the police dont know what they're doing except with what they think can get away with. they are more mind controlled than squaddies. serve notice on them, and they soon start remembering what the real law is.

[Ian2day]

It don't matter what the laws says. As they have the cuffs and pepper spray. People when faced with it have two choices. Do as they say or don't do as they say. Either way will mean some disruption to how you go about your life. Only upi can decide if you will make a stand over a point of principle that others may very well deem as strange to start with.

[leviathanstaar]

Oh to live in the UK for but a day.

I'd have shown up with every article containing the word.

She never should have removed that shirt.

[edible]

Man to police officer: What would you do if I called you a cunt?

Police officer: Well, I'd have to arrest you.

Man: What if I just thought you were a cunt?

Police officer: Well I can't arrest you for thinking it.

Man: OK, I think you're a cunt.

[dorrax]

Am i right in thinking if she said "Sir is that act a statute?" Reply "Yes" "Then I must inform you that i am a flesh and blood human being I am not a person so I dont feel that I must follow that act" officer IF uneducated will say "Then I am placing you under arrest" then she could reply "Sir, I am a peaceful person there is no need for force BUT please NOTICE that I am always in protest and will follow your wants under duress"
she would have escaped any public offense there?

[teachme]

young lady ......please dont attack Me

policy enforcement officer comiting ofences ?


Common Assault, contrary to section 39 Criminal Justice Act 1988
9) An offence of common assault is committed when a person either assaults another person or commits a battery:

An assault is committed when a person intentionally or recklessly causes another to apprehend the immediate infliction of unlawful force. (Archbold 19-166 and 19-172)
A battery is committed when a person intentionally and recklessly applies unlawful force to another. (Archbold 19-166a and 19-174 to 19-175)

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/offences_against_the_person/

Fraud by failing to disclose information (Section 3)
The elements of the offence
The elements of the offence are that the Defendant:

failed to disclose information to another person when
he was under a legal duty to disclose that information
dishonestly
intending, by that failure, to make a gain or cause a loss.
Like Section 2 (and Section 4) this offence is entirely offender focussed. It is complete as soon as the Defendant fails to disclose information provided he was under a legal duty to do so, and that it was done with the necessary dishonest intent. It differs from the deception offences in that it is immaterial whether or not any one is deceived or any property actually gained or lost.

a) Failed to disclose information

Failure to reveal information is tantamount to fraud by conduct or omission. In some cases there will be an overlap with Section 2 offences.

There is no requirement that the failure to disclose must relate to "material" or "relevant" information, nor is there any de minimis provision. If a Defendant disclosed 90% of what he was under a legal duty to disclose but failed to disclose the (possibly unimportant) remaining 10%, the actus reus of the offence could be complete. Under such circumstances the Defendant would have to rely on the absence of dishonesty. Such cases can be prosecuted under the Act if the public interest requires it, though such cases will be unusual.

It is no defence that the Defendant was ignorant of the existence of the duty, neither is it a defence in itself to claim inadvertence or incompetence. In that respect, the offence is one of strict liability. The defence must rely on an absence of dishonesty and the burden, of course, lies with the prosecutor.

Prosecutors must be acutely aware of the public interest in such cases, bear in mind the relative standing of the parties and pay particular regard to any explanation for the failure given by the Defendant.


http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/d_to_g/fraud_act/#a12

[dorrax]

Teachme can you please define person for me please? I'm a little hazy

[drhemp]

was watching this funny youtube vid and had my interest roused at the very end

fast forward to the end and note what the police officer says to the girl regarding her T shirt slogan and regarding section 5 Public Oder Act

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEjMZunHIZ0

Public Order Act 1986:

http://www.webtribe.net/~shg/Public%20Order%20Act%201986%20(1986%20c%2064)%20Se ct%204A,%205,%206.htm

Don't fast forward it to the end, watch it from beginning to end, it's hilarious.

What a fucking cunt that copper was! It makes me mad to see these humorless tax-payer funded Nazis.

I've had a "Bush another word for cunt" t-shirt for years which I've often proudly worn around town and I'm pretty sure I've worn it in London too.

[orderoutofchaos]

The officer was a complete cunt. I wonder if the public order offence would stand up in court as she didnt actually verbally say the words Fuck and C**t.

[dorrax]

any one here got blacks legal dictionary? look up the meaning of person.

[drhemp]

any one here got blacks legal dictionary? look up the meaning of person.

Interesting point. I've worn t-shirts with swear words in the past and I've often seen others wearing rude t-shirts. You can buy plenty online, in fact I even sell them sometimes.

I doubt that officer cared whether the law had been broken or not, he came over as the kind of guy who thought the law was whatever words passed through is lips.

My gut feeling is this would have a hard time standing up in court, but I don't know. If it did stand up in court then I'd suggest using the French Connection's strategy and get a t-shirt printed stating 'Give us back our fcuking money you cnuts.'

[dorrax]

PERSON. A man considered according to
the rank he holds in society, with all the
rights to which the place he holds entitles
him, and the duties which it imposes. 1
Bouv. Inst. no. 137.
A human being considered as capable of
having rights and of being charged with duties;
while a "thing11 is the object over which
rights may be exercised.
—Artificial persons. Such as are created and
devised by law for the purposes of society and
government, called "corporations" or "bodies
politic."—Natural persons. Such as are
formed by nature, as distinguished from artificial
persons, or corporations.—Private person.
An individual who is not the incumbent
of an office.

[dorrax]

PERSONALITY. In modern civil law.
The incidence of a law or statute upon persons,
or that quality which makes it a personal
law rather than a real law. "By the
personality of laws, foreign jurists generally
mean all laws which concern the condition,
state, and capacity of persons." Story, Confl.
Laws, § 16.

[outelligent]

The police man is just a big perv, Going round asking girls to remove there tops :rolleyes:
he threatened her swore at her and forced her to remove her clothing.
She could of had a field day in court! ;)

Police officer: "If Im being quite polite I expect a bit of respect"
Well I wonder were he went wrong?

[wakeupworld]

I have dual feelings about this video, firstly I am all for the the Freeman of the Land been made aware to the sheeple of which I was one (sheep that is :))
Were the man and lady with the sloganed t.shirts Freeman?
The other part of the dual feelings is I don`t like to hear swearing, especially in public. Ok isn`t the power freak cop correct when quoting the statue law? Which of course would apply if the people concerned were NOT freeman.
This is a link to to that law,
http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?activeTextDocId=2236961
Also isn`t the freeman a human being that respects other human beings and are peaceful individuals.
Fantastic idea by the way in this video but minus the swearing;)

[yozhik]

The police man is just a big perv, Going round asking girls to remove there tops :rolleyes:
he threatened her swore at her and forced her to remove her clothing.
She could of had a field day in court! ;)

Police officer: "If Im being quite polite I expect a bit of respect"
Well I wonder were he went wrong?

Another false assumption by most Policy Enforcers.
They think that a uniform = respect.

Dumb fuckers.

Respect is earned by action, not given as a right.
Respect is given to a man or woman, not bestowed upon an item of clothing.

You want my respect? You earn it.
Asking nicely does not warrant respect.
Since when did common courtesy demand an award?


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[wakeupworld]

So they earned respect by swearing in public? Yeh ok

[yozhik]

So they earned respect by swearing in public? Yeh ok

Did anyone say that?
However, they also didn't demand respect just because they were courteous to the Policy Enforcer, did they?

Did the Policy Enforcer answer their questions?
He quoted "Section 5", but when asked to give more details, he became belligerent, authoritarian and arrogant.

Is this how he earns respect?
Just a little boy in a big man's clothes, using words he doesn't comprehend ... and like any school bully, when the conversation goes beyond his intelligence or programming level, he resorts to bullying.

Nothing but a uniformed thug.


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[world elite]

What a complete Jobsworth Dick-Head Copper.:eek::mad:

[dondaz]

I would have had a field day educating that copper on what he said and how it really works.:D

This is the mentality we are up against, it's very easy to challenge them verbally and win. Very very easy!

[kingmonkey]

Did you here that? He wants respect...

How's about don't become a fucking pig then. (sorry pigs, no offence)

[celtic isis]

I would have had a field day educating that copper on what he said and how it really works.:D



lol this is why we love you daz :)

[steevo]

lol this is why we love you daz :)

That's right :D

[billygriff]

money talks, the man inside phones the police "We have protesters"

the police take action! there is no way the police were going to leave her or anyone else outside showing up the rich thieves inside to be who they are

[keef]

Those Liverpool street cops are exceptional fascist CUNTS. I dont see how they could be so prejudice against themselves. Lol
I used to work down there (not 4 too long mind) and got stopped and searched cuz the fucker didnt like the way i looked, I was dressed smart but my shirt was undone a couple buttons! fuckin retards!
Its obvious that they are protecting something in that part of London, I was gobsmacked by the control that i used to see everyday down there, not to mention the mentality of all those pathetic fucks down there that are selling us all to capitalism.( some gud un's, but very, very few) It's like 1984 the way the men and women swan about all self important that they just made a million pound deal and put a gram of fuckin coke up there nose! I'm not exagerating!
You should see what they behave like on a friday night in the bar's there.
I have never seen so many arrogant, selfish, dark aura's in all my life then I have seen in the square mile. I used to cruise through with my shades on feelin like Neo. Lol ha ha