God Horus Of Egypt Was A White Man

[december]

http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/horus_set.jpg

"In the Old and Middle Kingdoms there are depictions of these two gods together either leading the prisoners of the pharaoh or binding the plants of Upper and Lower Egypt together (as do the twin Hapi gods) to symbolise the union of Upper and Lower Egypt. He was regarded as an equal to the hawk god. This was Horus the Elder, a god of the day sky while Set was seen as a god of the night sky. When these two gods were linked, the two were said to be Horus-Set, a man with two heads - one of the hawk of Horus, the other of the Set animal.

"Homage to thee, O divine Ladder! Homage to thee O Ladder of Set! Stand thou upright, O divine Ladder! Stand thou upright, O Ladder of Set! Stand thou upright, O Ladder of Horus, whereby Osiris came forth into heaven."

-- Pyramid Texts of Pepi I

http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/set.html



"The tomb of Menna (18th Dynasty) at West Thebes shows blond girls.The god Horus is usually depicted as white.
He is very white in the Papyrus Book of the Dead of Lady Cheritwebeshet (21st Dynasty), found in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.

http://christianparty.net/pharaohs.htm




Set (Seth), God of Storms, Slayer of Apep,
Equal to and Rival of Horus

He was also believed to have white skin and red hair, with the Egyptians comparing his hair to the pelt of a donkey. Due to his association with red (dshr - adding a t makes the word for desert, desert determinative "dshrt"), red animals and even people with red hair were thought to be his followers. These animals were sometimes sacrificed, while the link between Set and red-heads - usually foreigners - gave him godhood over foreign lands. With the relationship to foreign peoples, Set was also a god of overseas trade of oils, wood and metals from over the sea and through desert routes. He was given lordship over western Asia because of this.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/set.htm



An Egyptian scribe named Kay at Sakkarah around 2500 B.C. has blue eyes.

From very early times in Egypt the sun and the moon were regarded as the eyes of the great falcon god Horus, though the two eyes eventually became differentiated, with the left eye (the "Eye of Horus") often being regarded as the symbol of the moon and the right eye (the "Eye of Re") being that of the sun.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/eyeofhorusandre.htm


http://www.cilco.co.uk/stock-photos/party-art/images/eye-of-horus-backdrop.jpg


http://www.anthonykosky.com/Egypt/Eye_of_Horus.jpg


http://www.egyptgiftshop.com/images/papyrus/paintings/horus_nefertari_large.jpg

Horus and Nefertari papyrus painting.

http://www.egyptgiftshop.com/gallery_papyrus.html

[december]

So, is it the eye of Horus on the US dollar bill?

http://www.a2planet.com/666/dollar_bill_great_seal2.jpg

http://www.theplatelady.com/egyptian/eye-of-horus-vase-5590.jpg

[edelweiss pirate]

Interesting.... I wonder then if the Gods of Egypt were humans who they deified...

They do say that the God Osiris actually existed in the early period and may be King Menes, the legendary first ruler of Egypt and uniter of the two lands.

Question is were they human or aliens...

Oh and for the record, the so called UFO hieroglyphs at Abydos are in my view no such thing. I'll post a thread about it sometime showing how what seem to resemble UFO's are actually just farming tools weapons etc... I've seen loads of Egyptian temples now and see the same shapes coming up again and again..

[december]

"The 1894 excavations of French archaeologist De Morgan at Dashur yielded this fine wooden statue of the ephemeral 13th Dynasty king Hor I. It measures 1m70 in height and stands in a 2m high wooden shrine".

http://www.ancient-egypt.org/kings/13/1315_hor_i/wooden_statue.jpg

http://www.ancient-egypt.org/index.html


Hor was an Egyptian king of the 13th Dynasty. He appears in the Turin King List as Aut-ib-Rê. He most likely reigned only for a short time, not long enough to prepare a pyramid, which was in this dynasty still the common burial place for kings.

Hor is mainly known from his burial in a shaft tomb found at Dahshur next to the pyramid of king Amenemhat III. The tomb was found essentially intact and still contained the partly gilded coffin of the king, a naos with a statue, some jewelry, the canopic box with canopic vessels, two inscribed stelae and several other objects.

Next to the burial of the king was found the undisturbed tomb of the 'king's daughter' Nub-hetepti-khered. She was likely a daughter of King Hor.
Pharaoh Hor, was quite an insignificant ruler whose throne name is shown within a cartouche right. The common photo is of a wooden statue of him. He was believed to have seven months of rule and this would have happened around the year 1760 BC.

This correspond very well to archaeological remains since he didn't have time to build a tomb of his own. His fame comes from the wooden statue of him.

Hor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



And he had the blue eyes -

http://rubens.anu.edu.au/htdocs/surveys/charlotte/0000/000059A.JPG

http://rubens.anu.edu.au/htdocs/surveys/charlotte/0000/000058.JPG

http://rubens.anu.edu.au/htdocs/surveys/charlotte/byartist/display00295.html

[december]

Genealogy

The most common genealogy of Horus is as the son of Osiris and Isis, as the tenth member of the family tree of the Heliopolitan Ennead. However, one must remember that this god's worship spanned some three thousand years, during which time he was venerated throughout Egypt, as well as outside of Egypt. Therefore, the full picture of his genealogy is more complex. Hathor, herself sometimes identified with Isis, also appears as the mother of Horus.

Haroeris, or Horus the Elder, can appear in the Heliopolitan family tree as the brother of Osiris and the son of Geb and Nut. Osiris can also be equated with Haroeris, who in that scenario is the murdered victim of Seth. At Edfu, Horus appears as the consort of Hathor and the father of another form of himself, Harsomtus, or "Horus Uniter of the Two Lands". Horus and Seth are sometimes described as nephew and uncle, but at other times as brothers.

At Nag'el Madamud, just north of Luxor, a temple was built in honor of the god Montu, his consort Raettawy, and their son Harpokrates, the child deity more often associated with Isis.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/horus.htm


http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/horus11.jpg

[december]

"The tomb of Menna (18th Dynasty) at West Thebes shows blond girls. The god Horus is usually depicted as white.

He is very white in the Papyrus Book of the Dead of Lady Cheritwebeshet (21st Dynasty), found in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.

http://christianparty.net/pharaohs.htm

http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/horus_set.jpg

http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/set.html

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/model/maria-sharapova/pictures/maria-sharapova-picture-2.jpg

[december]

"The tomb of Menna (18th Dynasty) at West Thebes shows blond girls. The god Horus is usually depicted as white.

He is very white in the Papyrus Book of the Dead of Lady Cheritwebeshet (21st Dynasty), found in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.

http://christianparty.net/pharaohs.htm

http://www.adpunch.org/images/sharapova_2.jpg

[december]

So, how come the Illuminati didn't tell us that God Horus was actually a white man?

[december]

http://www.whatistaxed.com/images/all_seeing_eye.jpg


If you look at an American one-dollar bill, you will find a pyramid with an “eye” on top. The Great Pyramid is often associated with Freemasonry, and many of the American founding fathers were Freemasons.

The symbol comes from the Great Seal of the United States designed in 1782 by Charles Thompson. In 1934 the Secretary of Agriculture Henry Wallace convinced Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau to place it on the dollar. It appeared in 1935.

Morgenthau did not know at the time that Wallace made the suggestion at the behest of his guru Nicholas Roerich. To Roerich, the eye represented the gaze of mahatmas, or super-evolved beings that guide the affairs and spiritual evolution of humanity.

Roerich (d 1947) and his wife Helena (d 1955) followed the Theosophy teachings of the colorful 19th century occultist, Helena P. Blavatsky (1831–1891). By 1925, the Roerichs had established a new theosophical group called Agni Yoga in New York and London, and later in Latvia, Russia, and India. Like Blavatsky, the Roerichs believed that mahatmas had chosen them as messengers to an elite core of mankind.

http://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_bookreviews/bkrev_theosophyandculture.htm


To understand Roerich’s connection to American History we need to turn to Secretary of Agriculture Henry Wallace who became President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s Vice-President from 1940-1944. Wallace and Roerich met up through the Theosophical Society, and for a time Wallace became very attached to Roerich. He even took to penning letters to Roerich that began, “Dear Guru”.

http://historyiselementary.blogspot.com

http://www.roerich.org/images/photos/400323_033.jpg

Nicholas Roerich. 1893. St.Petersburg, Russia

http://www.roerich.org/images/photos/400801_033.jpg

Nicholas Roerich. June–October, 1928. Darjeeling, India

http://www.roerich.org

[december]

Well, many people viewed this thread (132 hits), but so far nobody even TRIED to challenge this information...

:)

[edit]

Art

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____________Stinson Beach Art
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One strain of Earth art is just using the ground as a canvas.
This anonymous artist at Stinson Beach is making work similar to that of beach artist Jim Denevan (http://geology.about.com/od/geologyandculture/ig/earthart/stinsonart.htm).http://z.about.com/d/geology/1/8/Z/P/artpic.jpg
The beach art of Jim Denevan.
Permission of Jim Denevan

white - milkyway - arms(...aria-man - milkywhite-man, (song of...))
http://members.fcac.org/~sol/chview/milkyway.jpg

[december]

http://www.whatistaxed.com/images/all_seeing_eye.jpg


If you look at an American one-dollar bill, you will find a pyramid with an “eye” on top. The Great Pyramid is often associated with Freemasonry, and many of the American founding fathers were Freemasons.

The symbol comes from the Great Seal of the United States designed in 1782 by Charles Thompson. In 1934 the Secretary of Agriculture Henry Wallace convinced Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau to place it on the dollar. It appeared in 1935.

Morgenthau did not know at the time that Wallace made the suggestion at the behest of his guru Nicholas Roerich. To Roerich, the eye represented the gaze of mahatmas, or super-evolved beings that guide the affairs and spiritual evolution of humanity.

Roerich (d 1947) and his wife Helena (d 1955) followed the Theosophy teachings of the colorful 19th century occultist, Helena P. Blavatsky (1831–1891). By 1925, the Roerichs had established a new theosophical group called Agni Yoga in New York and London, and later in Latvia, Russia, and India. Like Blavatsky, the Roerichs believed that mahatmas had chosen them as messengers to an elite core of mankind.

http://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_bookreviews/bkrev_theosophyandculture.htm


To understand Roerich’s connection to American History we need to turn to Secretary of Agriculture Henry Wallace who became President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s Vice-President from 1940-1944. Wallace and Roerich met up through the Theosophical Society, and for a time Wallace became very attached to Roerich. He even took to penning letters to Roerich that began, “Dear Guru”.

http://historyiselementary.blogspot.com

http://www.roerich.org/images/photos/400323_033.jpg

Nicholas Roerich. 1893. St.Petersburg, Russia

http://www.roerich.org/images/photos/400801_033.jpg

Nicholas Roerich. June–October, 1928. Darjeeling, India

http://www.roerich.org

[december]

Using The Wands of Horus

http://www.neilos.org/wandsgraphics/wands_ThutmosisIII.jpg

A story of the discovery of the true use of the Wands by accident, or some may say, by divine prompting.

Imagine:

a world of total transparency where you are free to communicate with your higher spirit guide to consult on the best decision,

that you could find out the truth of a situation, rather than second guessing the motives,

you could have access to your collective knowledge from this and past lives.
you could ask any question provided that it was not for personal or material gain. What questions would you ask?

that you were free to review any dream in a controlled state, just like replaying it on a VCR.

that you were able to project yourself in an astral state to anywhere in the material plane.

What would the world be like if only 5% of the population could do this, that some of our leaders had these abilities? A world without the vice or self-interest, deception and material desire.

This is the start of creating such a world. The Russian Dr. Valery Uvarov rediscovered the secret to an ancient ability which will again be used in the future in a broader sense to shift the development of mankind to another level. This web page is dedicated to the development of this discovery for the benefit of mankind.

http://www.neilos.org/Wands_forward.htm

Manufacture of Genuine Sets of Wands of Horus

http://www.neilos.org/wandsgallery/thumbnails/Pair_of_Mono.jpg


The genuine Wands of Horus are manufactured in Russia and distributed from there by Dr. Valery Uvarov. He is very particular about the materials selection, construction, preparation and manufacture of the Wands of Horus.

Dr. Uvarov holds the patents and trademarks for the Wands of Horus and the Biostimulator Insoles.

http://www.neilos.org/WandsOfHorus_Beware_of_Imitations.html

[john white]

So, how come the Illuminati didn't tell us that God Horus was actually a white man?

Well for one thing... its obvious?

You do know that Horus symbolises dawn and Set... sunset, yes? So there is a classic black/white duality thing, and the two heads on one body thing is the unity beyond the polarity (ying/yang) etc

I don't see that your information needs challenging: its nice to see you digging on something else for a change in fact.. and it is "just" info

But your not really providing a context to stimulate a debate: you have to give of yourself December to invite a response

What do you think it means?

[mk72]

Well, many people viewed this thread (132 hits), but so far nobody even TRIED to challenge this information...

:)

I think it’s because a lot of people agree with you.

...if the earliest Aryan civilization as reflected in the Old Testament, the Greek, and other sources were centered in the north of Europe, and especially in the Scandinavian and British lands, it follows conversely that the present regions from whence our forefathers are believed to have derived their origins, that is to say in the Middle and Near east, Egypt and the Mediterranean countries, are credited with a civilization to which they are in no sense entitled, and which they only inherited by migrations from the north. As a matter of fact, anthropology has proved the correctness of this view again and again, showing that the white race never originally entered Europe from Asia - Comyns Beaumont (Riddle of Pre-Historic Britain)

The ancient inhabitants of Britain - the Gaelic and British Celts - have been already described as forming a branch of what are roughly called the "Aryans". This name has, however, little reference to race, and really signifies the speakers of a group of languages which can be all shown to be connected, and to descend remotely from a single source - a hypothetical mother-tongue spoken by a hypothetical people which we term "Aryan" or, more correctly, "Indo-European"...All the various Latin, Greek, Slavic, Teutonic, and Celtic languages are "Aryan," as well as Persian and other Asiatic dialects derived from the ancient "Zend," and the numerous Indian languages which trace their origin to Sanskrit...Not very long ago, it was supposed that this common descent of language involved a common descent of blood - Charles Squire (Celtic Myth and Legend)

[lumukanda]

i fail to see the point of this thread.
oh wait, i got it!!

http://www.vp.k12.mo.us/Mschool/MS/CMosley/Division%20Symbol.bmp

[december]

I think it’s because a lot of people agree with you.

Actually, it is because MANY people here do NOT agree or cannot except this information. If you read the posts which have anything to do with mythology or men's history you will see that most of people will say something about:

1. Reptilians;

2. Masons;

3. Satanists;

4. Dragons....

The minds of many posters of this forum are programed to view the history as a history of someone else but not their own.

In one thread the man who calls himself Synergy777 posted some pictures of the Hindu God Vishnu (who was a white man as well) but almost immediately another poster "explained" that - "Yes, he was reptilian too... and he came with dragons....".

:D

I will find the link and post it here to prove it.


http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/horus_set.jpg

"The tomb of Menna (18th Dynasty) at West Thebes shows blond girls. The god Horus is usually depicted as white.
He is very white in the Papyrus Book of the Dead of Lady Cheritwebeshet (21st Dynasty), found in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.

http://christianparty.net/pharaohs.htm

[john white]

Actually, it is because MANY people here do NOT agree or cannot except this information. If you read the posts which have anything to do with mythology or men's history you will see that most of people will say something about:


So, mind made up before you started as usual then December?

Oh well, it was promising for a moment...

[mk72]

Actually, it is because MANY people here do NOT agree or cannot except this information. If you read the posts which have anything to do with mythology or men's history you will see that most of people will say something about:

1. Reptilians;

2. Masons;

3. Satanists;

4. Dragons....

The minds of many posters of this forum are programed to view the history as a history of someone else but not their own.






In one thread the man who calls himself Synergy777 posted some pictures of the Hindu God Vishnu (who was a white man as well) but almost immediately another poster "explained" that - "Yes, he was reptilian too... and he came with dragons....".

:D

I will find the link and post it here to prove it.


http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/horus_set.jpg

"The tomb of Menna (18th Dynasty) at West Thebes shows blond girls. The god Horus is usually depicted as white.
He is very white in the Papyrus Book of the Dead of Lady Cheritwebeshet (21st Dynasty), found in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.

http://christianparty.net/pharaohs.htm

Sorry, misunderstood you for someone who can see the bigger picture:confused:

[human]

Ever heard of anthropomorphism, I suggest you go look it up and you will find many answers to ancient texts that talk about Gods or Dieties if you like. The bible is also a book filled with anthropomorphism.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

The ancients were well accustomed to personifying the elements of nature and especially the constellations.

[lumukanda]

Sorry, misunderstood you for someone who can see the bigger picture:confused:

you only make that mistake once. :D

[synergy777]

december, please post the reptillian reference to krishna/krist/kalki, still trying to jack my heritage bro, lol at least the irish know of their roots, EIRE/ARYA, like iran, land of aryans. even the hyskos/present day egyptians in egypt today know they are from india via persia. we know our heritage and know yours. we know you come from us, another branch of the familty tree. so bro, 1 LOVE, JUST BE ACCURATE.

ps, go to aa, vodkas doing you in bro, lol like pissed people keep on repeating themselves, eg mike skinner/the streets, irony of it all, track 11/opm, lol

[felakuti]

I'm not sure where some people get this idea of Horus being ''a white man''. The depictions I've seen of the deity certainly do not suggest anything of the sort. Horus is normally depicted as a falcon, his left eye being the moon, and the right, the sun, and his skin tone is normally the same as those around him, with the exception of the ocassional depiction of him in a ceremonial green color.

Also, on the Edfu text (inscriptions found at the temple of Edfu), the Egyptians wrote that they were ''led from the south by their god Horus'', further questioning the idea that he was ''a white man''.

http://www.odysseyadventures.ca/articles/ramesses/ramesses-horus.jpg
Horus

Horus' other names were Hor or Har. From the prefix "Hat-," many other divine names were created for local variations on Horus: Harmakhis, Harpekhrad, Harsiesis, Harekhte, Haroeris.

From around 2500 BCE Horus and Seth were presented as perpetual antagonists, who ended up reconciling as a symbol of the harmony between Upper (Southern) and Lower (Northern) Egypt.
In the myth of Osiris, Horus was presented as his and Isis' son, as well as the opponent of Seth. In this myth, Horus had to defeat Seth to become king of Egypt.

Many traditional African religions appear to be a continuum in the ancient worship of Horus. The rites and creeds are very similar, and they are commonly titled - Orisa, Alusi, Oliseh, Lisa, Olisa etc etc - followers of Horus-sat, (or Horus-set) -the full name of the Egyptian deity.

The Yoruba religion (Orisa) is in practice and belief, a virtual double of the ancient Nile Valley religion. Here, as elsewhere in West Africa, kings, chiefs, and nobles are still buried with great pomp, as well as a variety of appurtenances ostensibly to assist them in the afterlife. Divinity of kingship is still recognised, as well as matrilineal succession, and libations - the pouring of drops of wine on the ground in ceremony, is widespread, as is circumcision and the prevalence of festivals featuring masquerades..

To understand the 'strange' culture of the Egyptians, one need look no further than the 'strange' nations to the south of Egypt. :cool:

[lumukanda]

yep, nothing interesting ever happened south of egypt, despite the fact that egyptian gold came, amongst other places, from southern africa.

[cleopatraxxx]

Well, many people viewed this thread (132 hits), but so far nobody even TRIED to challenge this information...

:)

why do you expect someone to CHALLENGE your info? :confused:

CLeoXXX

[them]

Horus is normally depicted as a falcon, his left eye being the moon

http://www.odysseyadventures.ca/articles/ramesses/ramesses-horus.jpg
Horus

Aplomado Falcon

http://www.oteromesa.org/images/400/aplomado_falcon.jpg

Family/Sub-family Falconidae

Species name author Temminck, 1822

http://content.ornith.cornell.edu/UEWebApp/images/aplomado-falcon-map_s.gif

Distribution of the Aplomado Falcon

http://www.hbw.com/ibc/videos/Falconidae/Falco_femoralis_4g.wmv

[december]

I'm not sure where some people get this idea of Horus being ''a white man''.

I think you need to read the first page of this thread.

[felakuti]

I think you need to read the first page of this thread.

I did, and the first link I clicked on took me to the Stormfront site. :eek:

It's not the sort of place I'd go to read up on African/Egyptian history, for obvious reasons.

It's a bit like calling Cheney to hear the truth about 9/11.

Nothing on the first page suggests, by the way, that Horus was ''a white man''. I think you read far too much into the 'blue-eye' depiction. And what about the numerous renditions of the Horus eye in black or brown? Do those not count in your analysis of his 'race'?

Considering his skin color is normally depicted as dark/black/green, are we to surmise that he was a white guy nonetheless, owing to the discovery of a supposedly 'caucasoid' rendition? :cool:

[anoninnyc]

I did, and the first link I clicked on took me to the Stormfront site. :eek:

It's not the sort of place I'd go to read up on African/Egyptian history, for obvious reasons.

It's a bit like calling Cheney to hear the truth about 9/11.

Nothing on the first page suggests, by the way, that Horus was ''a white man''. I think you read far too much into the 'blue-eye' depiction. And what about the numerous renditions of the Horus eye in black or brown? Do those not count in your analysis of his 'race'?

Considering his skin color is normally depicted as dark/black/green, are we to surmise that he was a white guy nonetheless, owing to the discovery of a supposedly 'caucasoid' rendition? :cool:

felakuti you have faulty logic, my friend. don't you know that no god of a great civilization such as egypt could be anything other than white? december has shown me the light, and i bow down to him as a blue eyed god.

[armoured saint]

why do you expect someone to CHALLENGE your info? :confused:

CLeoXXX

It's baffling why this person would ask that isn't it. Especially when in the past, and innumerable times, he does not and is unable to respond. He puts his silly point up, and declares it as fact. No response will do.

The Egyptian's look overwhelmingly tanned and with dark hair. It makes me chuckle to see Eurocentrics, Slavocentrics, Indocentrics and Afrocentrics argue over the white/black absolutes.

They cant handle the fact that the mediteranean cultures had their own long cultural and genetic evolution.

[lumukanda]

look at the mediterranean, it's slap bang in the middle of some serious migration routes, up north from africa, down south from northern europe, to the east from western europe and west from the middle east and asia, to say that the people there had a long cultural and genetic evolution i can't agree with, if anything, they are the culmination of thousands of years of conquest and migration, we tend to speak of the ancient people as though they looked the same as today, ie were the same people, but thats always true, i mean at one point in spain the people were white (blue eyes, blonde hair), then came the moores, today we have the darker skinned spaniards, not exclusively of course, but it's fairly common.

[armoured saint]

look at the mediterranean, it's slap bang in the middle of some serious migration routes, up north from africa, down south from northern europe, to the east from western europe and west from the middle east and asia, to say that the people there had a long cultural and genetic evolution i can't agree with, if anything, they are the culmination of thousands of years of conquest and migration, we tend to speak of the ancient people as though they looked the same as today, ie were the same people, but thats always true, i mean at one point in spain the people were white (blue eyes, blonde hair), then came the moores, today we have the darker skinned spaniards, not exclusively of course, but it's fairly common.

We could slap bang a central point anywhere on the world map, so it doesn't mean much. And who said there was a need for migration many thousands of years ago? There were kingdoms and plenty of swords, so you just cant migrate in those days without some form of aggression or army.

Once again, if you believe in the myth that they were hybrids, that's your business. In regards to Spain and it's blue eyed people. You shouldn't forget that during the fall of the Roman empire, the Germaninc tribes were constantly overunning the entire peninsula and settled in northern Africa. The Moors came later.

[them]

http://www.odysseyadventures.ca/articles/ramesses/ramesses-horus.jpg
Horus

Aplomado Falcon

http://www.oteromesa.org/images/400/aplomado_falcon.jpg

Family/Sub-family Falconidae

Species name author Temminck, 1822

http://content.ornith.cornell.edu/UEWebApp/images/aplomado-falcon-map_s.gif

Distribution of the Aplomado Falcon

http://www.hbw.com/ibc/videos/Falconidae/Falco_femoralis_4g.wmv

Horus depicted as a North American species of Falcon, a very distinctive Falcon. Unmistakable infact.. strange eh?

Anybody got an explanation of that?

[synergy777]

there are falcons/hawks in asia/africa, maybe egypt was meso/south america, australia the chosen land, like lilly thinks?

[them]

there are falcons/hawks in asia/africa, maybe egypt was meso/south america, australia the chosen land, like lilly thinks?

Yes, true; there are many species, none of which migrate between Africa & the Americas.

The facial markings as depicted in paintings of Horus are the markings of an Aplomado Falcon. You could try all day to find an African Falcon that fits the bill, you wont find one though.

So that begs the question; How did Egyptian painters know what the Aplomado looked like?

I've never really looked at the birds in hieroglyphs closley before but it would be interesting to see if any of the other avian species depicted are non African.

http://users.cybercity.dk/~ccc12787/raptors/falconiformes.html

[synergy777]

maybe it was egyptian eye make up style, like the eye of ra, the stuff chicks do with the black eyeliner eg cleopatra. egyptians use to draw the line from the corner of their eye. on true reflection thats rather lame isn't, lol its probably a species that could have migrated, or is extinct now, i don't know. we need some birdwatcher/bill oddie types ot pitch in. i think these were symbolic pictures and not some chimera.

[synergy777]

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The Eye of HorusThe Eye of Horus (originally, The Eye of Ra)[citation needed] is an ancient Egyptian symbol of protection and Royal Power, from the deity Horus or Ra. In the Egyptian language the word for this symbol was "wdjet".[1][2]

Horus was an ancient Egyptian sky god in the form of a falcon. The right eye represents a peregrine falcon's eye and the markings around it, including the "teardrop" marking sometimes found below the eye. As the wadjet (also udjat or utchat), it also represented the sun, and was associated with the Sun God Ra (Re). The mirror image, or left eye, represented the moon and the God Tehuti (Thoth). [3]


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Peregrine Falcon
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Peregrine Falcon


Conservation status

Least Concern
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia

Phylum: Chordata

Class: Aves

Order: Falconiformes

Family: Falconidae

Genus: Falco

Species: F. peregrinus


Binomial name
Falco peregrinus
Tunstall, 1771


Global range
(shaded green, dark dots on islands)
The Peregrine Falcon (Falco peregrinus), occasionally known in North America as the Duck Hawk, is a medium-sized falcon about the size of a large crow: 380–530 millimetres (15–21 in) long. The English and scientific species names mean "wandering falcon", and refer to the fact that some populations are migratory. It has a wingspan of about 1 m (40 in). Males weigh 570–710 grams; the noticeably larger females weigh 910–1190 grams.

The Peregrine Falcon is the fastest animal on the planet in its hunting dive, the stoop, in which it soars to a great height, then dives steeply at speeds of over 200 mph (322 km/h) into either wing of its prey, so as not to harm itself on impact.[1][2][3][4] The fledglings practice the roll and the pumping of the wings before they master the actual stoop. It should be noted, however, that in level flight the fastest-flying bird is the White-throated Needletail and either animal is often quoted as being the fastest on earth.

[december]

look at the mediterranean, it's slap bang in the middle of some serious migration routes, up north from africa, down south from northern europe, to the east from western europe and west from the middle east and asia, to say that the people there had a long cultural and genetic evolution i can't agree with, if anything, they are the culmination of thousands of years of conquest and migration, we tend to speak of the ancient people as though they looked the same as today, ie were the same people, but thats always true, i mean at one point in spain the people were white (blue eyes, blonde hair), then came the moores, today we have the darker skinned spaniards, not exclusively of course, but it's fairly common.


Lumukanda is from Africa, he just HATES WHITE PEOPLE....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Horus

Eye of Horus
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Synergy777 tells us what he really thinks:

i am in vodka bar, with nice russian blonde giving a me a blow job, whilst dictating to another blonde who has my laptop, lol

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5460&page=4

Also, on old David Icke forum synergy777 said that in India they have Kamasutra, so they f*ck like rabits, and one day they will overpower the White People by the numbers.

And on Illusions forum synergy777 said that "We have to kill as many whites as possible..."

[anoninnyc]

Yes, true; there are many species, none of which migrate between Africa & the Americas.

The facial markings as depicted in paintings of Horus are the markings of an Aplomado Falcon. You could try all day to find an African Falcon that fits the bill, you wont find one though.

So that begs the question; How did Egyptian painters know what the Aplomado looked like?

I've never really looked at the birds in hieroglyphs closley before but it would be interesting to see if any of the other avian species depicted are non African.

http://users.cybercity.dk/~ccc12787/raptors/falconiformes.html

i think that we underestimate the abilities of ancient civilizations. egyptians seem more advanced than us today so why could they not have travelled to the americas?

the chinese and the vikings were traveling to the americas long before its so called discovery.

[december]

http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/horus_set.jpg

"In the Old and Middle Kingdoms there are depictions of these two gods together either leading the prisoners of the pharaoh or binding the plants of Upper and Lower Egypt together (as do the twin Hapi gods) to symbolise the union of Upper and Lower Egypt. He was regarded as an equal to the hawk god. This was Horus the Elder, a god of the day sky while Set was seen as a god of the night sky. When these two gods were linked, the two were said to be Horus-Set, a man with two heads - one of the hawk of Horus, the other of the Set animal.

"Homage to thee, O divine Ladder! Homage to thee O Ladder of Set! Stand thou upright, O divine Ladder! Stand thou upright, O Ladder of Set! Stand thou upright, O Ladder of Horus, whereby Osiris came forth into heaven."

-- Pyramid Texts of Pepi I

http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/set.html



"The tomb of Menna (18th Dynasty) at West Thebes shows blond girls.The god Horus is usually depicted as white.
He is very white in the Papyrus Book of the Dead of Lady Cheritwebeshet (21st Dynasty), found in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo.

http://christianparty.net/pharaohs.htm




Set (Seth), God of Storms, Slayer of Apep,
Equal to and Rival of Horus

He was also believed to have white skin and red hair, with the Egyptians comparing his hair to the pelt of a donkey. Due to his association with red (dshr - adding a t makes the word for desert, desert determinative "dshrt"), red animals and even people with red hair were thought to be his followers. These animals were sometimes sacrificed, while the link between Set and red-heads - usually foreigners - gave him godhood over foreign lands. With the relationship to foreign peoples, Set was also a god of overseas trade of oils, wood and metals from over the sea and through desert routes. He was given lordship over western Asia because of this.[/b]

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/set.htm

[albie]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus_(mythology)

Just noticed this.



Uranus is the Latinized form of Ouranos (Οὐρανός), the Greek word for sky. In Greek mythology Uranus is personified as the son and husband of Gaia, Mother Earth (Hesiod, Theogony). Uranus and Gaia were ancestors of most of the Greek gods.

Other sources claim a different parentage of Ouranos. Cicero, in De Natura Deorum ("The Nature of the Gods") claims that he was the offspring of the ancient gods Aether and Hemera. According to the Orphic Hymns, Ouranos was the son of the personification of night, Nyx.

His equivalent in Roman mythology was Caelus, likewise from caelum the Latin word for "sky".


http://library.thinkquest.org/26264/inhabitants/gods/first/site003.htm

Uranus is the god of sky and heaven. Before he dies Uranus is the first ruler of all rulers. He is overthrown and killed by his youngest son the Titan Cronus.

Uranus

Horus.

Sound alike. Both sky gods.

[december]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus_(mythology)

Uranus

Horus.

Sound alike. Both sky gods.


Albie decided to spam in this thread because he hates all people and especially Russian people.
This is what he posted just yesterday:

The Russians are major child fuckers.

Source -

http://illusionsforum.jconserv.net/viewtopic.php?t=4118

[anoninnyc]

funny, because you seem to hate all non-white people. and why do you bring up what goes on in the illusions forum, whatever that is?

[albie]

I don't hate russians. Just you, december.

You take any opportunity to demonise jews.

You clearly hate them all, where ever they live.

This thread is another attempt to glorify white skin.

To try and make them more ancient.

Can't bear being a descendant of an african can you.

Wants to believe whites are a seperate race.

And how my post is spam I don't know.

[lumukanda]

[b]Lumukanda is from Africa, he just HATES WHITE
PEOPLE...

i'm from africa, but i'm also white stupid head.

[lumukanda]

We could slap bang a central point anywhere on the world map, so it doesn't mean much. And who said there was a need for migration many thousands of years ago? There were kingdoms and plenty of swords, so you just cant migrate in those days without some form of aggression or army.

Once again, if you believe in the myth that they were hybrids, that's your business. In regards to Spain and it's blue eyed people. You shouldn't forget that during the fall of the Roman empire, the Germaninc tribes were constantly overunning the entire peninsula and settled in northern Africa. The Moors came later.

well, the mediterranean is kind of really slap bang in the middle of three continents, so it means a bit more than we put it in say, alice springs.
who knows why people migrated, but they did, but one reason which springs to mind is trade, you don't need thousands of people to intermarry with other people, just a few will do the trick, and people were trading all over the place, in places most don't even think of, think african chinese trade, makes sense, but taking from the account of regular population movements, it seems very unlikely, and yet it happened.

on the spaniards, you are right, the germanic tribes probably did get their first, oops, my bad.

[december]

i'm from africa, but i'm also white stupid head.

lumukanda, it is not clear to me - are you calling yourself a "white stupid head"?


Did you ever told me that you are a white person?
No, you did not, lumukanda.

So, why do you have to be rude? Or is it just a part of your culture? Next time, please, lumukanda, simply explain what I don't know.

OK? :)

Well, I guess you are just self-hating white man.
Correct?

[lumukanda]

no, my point is that you ASSUME that because i am from africa that i am black and hate whites, the same way you ASSUME a lot of things.
i don't hate whites, i don't hate anyone, some people (nudge nudge wink wink) just really annoy the crap out of me, but i don't hate them, to hate an entire race is about the stupidest thing one could do.
the funniest thing about you my friend is the way you have no problem advertising your hatred of jews, or just about anyone else, but expect an explanation when you ASSUME someone else hates anyone at all.
to be honest, the only reason i even speak to you is for amusement.

[synergy777]

albie good post about uranus/horus. it goes back to the astro-theology thing.

[them]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Horus

Eye of Horus
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The Eye of HorusThe Eye of Horus (originally, The Eye of Ra)[citation needed] is an ancient Egyptian symbol of protection and Royal Power, from the deity Horus or Ra. In the Egyptian language the word for this symbol was "wdjet".[1][2]

Horus was an ancient Egyptian sky god in the form of a falcon. The right eye represents a peregrine falcon's eye and the markings around it, including the "teardrop" marking sometimes found below the eye. As the wadjet (also udjat or utchat), it also represented the sun, and was associated with the Sun God Ra (Re). The mirror image, or left eye, represented the moon and the God Tehuti (Thoth). [3]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peregrine_Falcon

Peregrine Falcon
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Jump to: navigation, search
Peregrine Falcon


Conservation status

Least Concern
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia

Phylum: Chordata

Class: Aves

Order: Falconiformes

Family: Falconidae

Genus: Falco

Species: F. peregrinus


Binomial name
Falco peregrinus
Tunstall, 1771


Global range
(shaded green, dark dots on islands)
The Peregrine Falcon (Falco peregrinus), occasionally known in North America as the Duck Hawk, is a medium-sized falcon about the size of a large crow: 380–530 millimetres (15–21 in) long. The English and scientific species names mean "wandering falcon", and refer to the fact that some populations are migratory. It has a wingspan of about 1 m (40 in). Males weigh 570–710 grams; the noticeably larger females weigh 910–1190 grams.

The Peregrine Falcon is the fastest animal on the planet in its hunting dive, the stoop, in which it soars to a great height, then dives steeply at speeds of over 200 mph (322 km/h) into either wing of its prey, so as not to harm itself on impact.[1][2][3][4] The fledglings practice the roll and the pumping of the wings before they master the actual stoop. It should be noted, however, that in level flight the fastest-flying bird is the White-throated Needletail and either animal is often quoted as being the fastest on earth.

Sorry to be a bit of a bore over this point synergy777, but.. Peregrine Falcons do not have a supercilium. Every picture of Horus shows a Falcon with a supercilium, and in my opinion that bird is a Aplomado Falcon. I have looked at just a few other hieroglyphs of birds and so far they are all very accurate representations of either African or migratory African birds.

Peregrine Falcon
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/images/birds/peregrine1.jpg
Aplomado Falcon
http://www.oteromesa.org/images/400/aplomado_falcon.jpg

[them]

http://xs123.xs.to/xs123/08044/smiley_bump232.gif

[amercury]

Glad you gave it a bump them:) Very interesting.

The Aplomado Falcon looks identical to that depiction of Horus.


Have you ever heard of the 'cocaine mummies'?
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010126.html


It's very probable the egyptians and/or chinese were in the americas IMO.

The Roman's definitely knew their way to South America as there has been a Roman shipwreck found off the coast of Brazil. Not such a stretch that the egyptians might have known about the Americas too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1038045/posts

I also remember reading about the similarities between two breeds of dogs, one peruvian and one egyptian. Can't remember what the breed names were though. If I figure it out I'll post info on them.



Oh...and I love, love, love your signature:D

[trumansho]

Lmao *DIES* this is most funniest bs I ever read. December, if you are reading this. You just made my day with this joke.

[mr jones]

blue eye of horus

[trumansho]

blue eye of horus
The blue lies of horus this topic is utter mess and bs.

[them]

Glad you gave it a bump them:) Very interesting.

The Aplomado Falcon looks identical to that depiction of Horus.


Have you ever heard of the 'cocaine mummies'?
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010126.html


It's very probable the egyptians and/or chinese were in the americas IMO.

The Roman's definitely knew their way to South America as there has been a Roman shipwreck found off the coast of Brazil. Not such a stretch that the egyptians might have known about the Americas too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1038045/posts

I also remember reading about the similarities between two breeds of dogs, one peruvian and one egyptian. Can't remember what the breed names were though. If I figure it out I'll post info on them.



Oh...and I love, love, love your signature:D

I'm surprised that none of the 'bigger Egypt brains' have latched onto this. It's easy to illustrate and fairly water tight evidence that the ruling classes from the Egyptian dynasties knew at least one New World Raptor species. The Aplomado Falcon.

How did they know :confused:

I haven't really looked at the cocaine mummies before so thanks for the links, I'll check it out.

Thank Mozart for the sig ;)

[amercury]

Forgive me as I'm off topic here, but them's post is far more interesting then the original post....


Just wanted to add what could be another link between South America and Egypt?

If anyone has seen the recent King Tut exhibit you would have noticed his female relatives (and Tut to some extent) have weird shaped skulls.
Here are a couple of depictions of Akhenaten's daughters.

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1486/akhenaten27s20daughter2sf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9246/akhenaten27s20daughter2bn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


and two of the famous skulls found in Peru over 2000 years old

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5708/imagepd3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Were the two civilizations practicing the same head binding techniques which go back 9000 years?

[them]

Glad you gave it a bump them:) Very interesting.

The Aplomado Falcon looks identical to that depiction of Horus.


Have you ever heard of the 'cocaine mummies'?
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010126.html


It's very probable the egyptians and/or chinese were in the americas IMO.

The Roman's definitely knew their way to South America as there has been a Roman shipwreck found off the coast of Brazil. Not such a stretch that the egyptians might have known about the Americas too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1038045/posts

I also remember reading about the similarities between two breeds of dogs, one peruvian and one egyptian. Can't remember what the breed names were though. If I figure it out I'll post info on them.



Oh...and I love, love, love your signature:D

I'm surprised that none of the 'bigger Egypt brains' have latched onto this. It's easy to illustrate and fairly water tight evidence that the ruling classes from the Egyptian dynasties knew at least one New World Raptor species. The Aplomado Falcon.

How did they know :confused:

I haven't really looked at the cocaine mummies before so thanks for the links, I'll check it out.

Thank Mozart for the sig ;)

I wanted to add some more info about the Aplomado Falcon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.geometer.org/Brazil2006/images/AplomadoFalcon.jpg

More. (http://www.peregrinefund.org/Explore_Raptors/falcons/aplomado.html)

[octopusrex]

Forgive me as I'm off topic here, but them's post is far more interesting then the original post....


Just wanted to add what could be another link between South America and Egypt?

If anyone has seen the recent King Tut exhibit you would have noticed his female relatives (and Tut to some extent) have weird shaped skulls.
Here are a couple of depictions of Akhenaten's daughters.

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1486/akhenaten27s20daughter2sf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9246/akhenaten27s20daughter2bn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


and two of the famous skulls found in Peru over 2000 years old

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5708/imagepd3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Were the two civilizations practicing the same head binding techniques which go back 9000 years?

I'm sorry, but these chicks are HOT.