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quysant
19-02-2009, 01:38 PM
There are many versions, but the following is the contemporary rendering of Latin text:


1. True, without error, certain and most true
2. That which is below is as that which is above, and that which is above is as that which is below, to perform the miracles of the one thing.
3. And as all things were from [the] one, by [means of] the meditation of [the] one, thus all things of the daughter from [the] one, by [means of] adaptation.
4. Its father is the sun, its mother[,]the moon, the wind carried it in its belly, its nurse is the earth.
5. The father of all the initiates of the whole world is here.
6. Its power is integrating if it be turned into earth.
7. Separate the earth from the fire, the fine from the dense, delicately, by [means of/to] the great [together] with capacity.
8. It ascends by [means of] earth into heaven and again it descends into the earth, and retakes the power of the superior[s] and of the inferior[s].
9. Thus[,] you have the glory of the whole world.
10. Therefore[,] may it drive-out by [means of] you of all the obscurity.
11. This is the whole of the strength of the strong force, because it overcomes all fine things, and penetrates all the complete.
12. Thus[,] the world has been created.
13. Hence they were wonderful adaptations, of which this is the manner.
14. Therefore[,] I am Hermes the Thrice Great, having the three parts of the philosophy of the whole world.
15. What I have said concerning the operation of the Sun has been completed.

Has anybody here worked out precisely what it means or to what it refers?


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eternal_spirit
19-02-2009, 04:50 PM
Confusing, get back to this later maybe.

quysant
20-02-2009, 12:47 PM
Last try...Anybody?

thelonious
20-02-2009, 02:27 PM
Last try...Anybody?

It contains the fundamental principles of Occult Science. The maxim "As above, so below" is of particular importance. Occultists acknowledge the existence of 4 primary "worlds", or planes of existence. For anything to exist on one plane, it must first exist on the one immediately above it.

The remainder of the Tablet explains Magical Formulae based of the philosophy of the planes, or Four Worlds.

From a practical standpoint, this is used by Ceremonial Magicians to bring desired effects into Assiah, the lowest world, or material plane. The world immediately above the plane of matter is Yetzirah, or the astral plane. What is formulated on this plane will come into existence in Assiah. The method of accomplishing this is the discipline of Magick.

quysant
20-02-2009, 03:45 PM
It contains the fundamental principles of Occult Science. The maxim "As above, so below" is of particular importance. Occultists acknowledge the existence of 4 primary "worlds", or planes of existence. For anything to exist on one plane, it must first exist on the one immediately above it.

The remainder of the Tablet explains Magical Formulae based of the philosophy of the planes, or Four Worlds.

From a practical standpoint, this is used by Ceremonial Magicians to bring desired effects into Assiah, the lowest world, or material plane. The world immediately above the plane of matter is Yetzirah, or the astral plane. What is formulated on this plane will come into existence in Assiah. The method of accomplishing this is the discipline of Magick.

Thank you Thelonious,

Nice of you to reply, unfortunately it is not what I wanted to know...
I wanted to know the "key" to the "Tablet"

Example:

True, without error, certain and most true: what is "true"?

Its father is the sun, its mother[,]the moon, the wind carried it in its belly, its nurse is the earth: What is "it"?

Etc etc..

thelonious
20-02-2009, 04:34 PM
True, without error, certain and most true: what is "true"?

It is referring to the next line, which it proclaims to be "true without doubt". There are several different translations available, a couple of which are more easily understandable. For example, one version reads "Here is a true explanation, concerning which there can be no doubt."

Isaac Newton's personal translation reads, "Tis true without lying, certain & most true. That wch is below is like that wch is above & that wch is above is like yt wch is below to do ye miracles of one only thing."


Its father is the sun, its mother[,]the moon, the wind carried it in its belly, its nurse is the earth: What is "it"?



This refers to the methods of Alchemy, and a certain method in particular. This method is also the primary secret of the secret society known as the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.), and it's full explanation is reserved for initiates into that order's IX°.

"It" refers to the Elixir of Life, the Universal Medicine, or "Medicine of Metals". While this method is supposed to be a big secret, it is actually pretty easily discernible in the writings of Paschal Beverly Randolph, Theodore Reuss, and Aleister Crowley.

1977
20-02-2009, 07:14 PM
"It" is the mysterious spark of life and light, contained within semen.

Also easily discernible in Mary Ann Atwood's A Suggestive Inquiry into the Hermetic Mystery (http://www.rexresearch.com/atwood/cont.htm) (a good read, to be sure).

Said the Naassenes: http://sacred-texts.com/gno/th1/th110.htm

When Ocean flows down, it is the birth-causing of men; and when [it flows] up, towards the Wall and Palisade, and the “White Rock,” it is the birth-causing of gods.


And the method, according to Zosimos: http://www.levity.com/alchemy/zosimos.html

"I counsel all those in mortification to become calm and that each take in his hand a lead tablet and write with his own hand and that each bear his eyes upward and open his mouth until his grapes be grown."


Which, we are told, is the "manual method," accomplished "by operation of the hands": http://www.rexresearch.com/atwood/atw4-1.htm

Next to the preliminary aids already noted, and a sufficient theory to being with, follows the Preparation of the Philosophic Subject, which is performed, says the Monk Basil, by operation of the Hands, that some real effect may be produced. From preparation arises knowledge, even such as opens all the fundamentals of Alchemy and Medicine. Operation of the hands, continues he, requires a diligent application of itself, but the praise of the science consists in experience; but the praise of the science consists in experience; hence that notable maxim --- Physician, heal thyself. But the difference of these, anatomy (that which is spiritual) distinguisheth: operation shows thee how all things may be brought to light and exposed to sight visibly; but knowledge, i.e., experience reveals the practice and shows further how to proceed, and that whence the true practitioner is, and is no other than a confirmation of the previous work: because the operation of the hands manifests something that is good, and draws the latent and hidden nature outwards, and brings it to light for good.
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For although it is called a play of children, and represented as a very trivial, slight, almost a ridiculous thing, one linear decoction throughout and dissolution by line, yet neither instinct nor reason would probably suggest, without instruction, the tractive artifice now made publicly easy of entrancing the senses in their own medial light.

Thelonious will probably correct me if I am totally off base here.

lightgiver
21-02-2009, 01:18 AM
Far in the past before Atlantis existed,
men there were who delved into darkness,
using dark magic, calling up beings
from the great deep below us.
Forth came they into this cycle.
Formless were they of another vibration,
existing unseen by the children of earth-men.
Only through blood could they have formed being.
Only through man could they live in the world.

In ages past were they conquered by Masters,
driven below to the place whence they came.
But some there were who remained,
hidden in spaces and planes unknown to man.
Lived they in Atlantis as shadows,
but at times they appeared among men.
Aye, when the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men.

In the form of man they amongst us,
but only to sight were they as are men.
Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted
but appearing to man as men among men.
Crept they into the Councils,
taking forms that were like unto men.

Slaying by their arts
the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man.
Only by magic could they be discovered.
Only by sound could their faces be seen.
Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows
to destroy man and rule in his place.

But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic,
able to lift the Veil from the face of the serpent,
able to send him back to his place.
Came they to man and taught him the secret,
the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men.

Yet, beware, the serpent still liveth
in a place that is open at times to the world.
Unseen they walk among thee
in places where the rites have been said.
Again as time passes onward
shall they take the semblance of men.

Cast off the darkness and travel in Light! Learn to cast off your body, O man, and be free from it! Become the true Light and unite then with the Great Light!

quysant
21-02-2009, 07:22 AM
"It" is the mysterious spark of life and light, contained within semen.

Also easily discernible in Mary Ann Atwood's A Suggestive Inquiry into the Hermetic Mystery (http://www.rexresearch.com/atwood/cont.htm) (a good read, to be sure).

Said the Naassenes: http://sacred-texts.com/gno/th1/th110.htm



And the method, according to Zosimos: http://www.levity.com/alchemy/zosimos.html

Which, we are told, is the "manual method," accomplished "by operation of the hands": http://www.rexresearch.com/atwood/atw4-1.htm

Thelonious will probably correct me if I am totally off base here.


Although it takes a lot of imagination to fit the answer to the riddle, you get my "smartie" for best answer...Thanks.

1977
21-02-2009, 08:49 AM
Although it takes a lot of imagination to fit the answer to the riddle, you get my "smartie" for best answer...Thanks.
It requires only imagination and a dirty mind, but I may be wrong. ;)

Edit: I originally wrote something of an interpretation here, but see my next post.

infinite tea
21-02-2009, 09:21 AM
It's the dark light inside all things. Confide in your SELF, the answer is within YOU - learn the truth that IS YOU.

Ask yourSELF for guidence and allow yourself to be guided. Find peace through reason...then find that which IS beyond - that's you're answer :-)

stewart edwards
21-02-2009, 09:38 AM
It's the dark light inside all things. Confide in your SELF, the answer is within YOU - learn the truth that IS YOU.

Ask yourSELF for guidence and allow yourself to be guided. Find peace through reason...then find that which IS beyond - that's you're answer :-)
Know Yourself.

Theirin lie the answers.


Infinite tea, your description of dark light intrigues me. I have found a flame of pure light to reside in all things, but this little flame is smothered by seeds/clouds of darkness that surround it (I wonder if this is your dark light?). The trick is lening to find the little flame inside and giving it breathing room to grow and balance the darkness.

1977

You would know it if your kundalini rose to you throat or above.

1977
21-02-2009, 10:07 AM
1977

You would know it if your kundalini rose to you throat or above.
I am only acquainted with the vaguest sort of theory--not the practice.

This site goes into great detail: http://www.thealchemycode.org/?q=node/22
In the KUNDALINI experience, a bolt of electromagnetic energy bursts into an individual’s lower spine and starts a process which is biological that causes a stream of a reproductive secretion to flow up through the spinal cord into the brain. As stated, this secretion streams up the central canal (spinal cord) as if a powerful suction were applied from the head to the nerve lining at the space below the navel and the plexus located between the reproductive organ and the anus. This activity primarily involves the brain, nervous system, and reproductive system. This upward flow of radiant energy is composed of fine, biochemical reproductive seeds that enter the brain and nerve centers of all the vital organs, and appear in the mind’s eye as an internal luminosity. Physically, it is felt as an extremely pleasurable sensation that might be associated with the erotic flow of reproductive energy.

The Secret of the Golden Flower, an ancient Chinese book of life, leaves no doubt that the author intends to convey an inward and upward flow of reproductive energy when he attempts to describe “the elixir of life.” He writes: “The power of the kidneys is under the water sign. When the (sexual) instincts are stirred, it runs downward, is directed outward and creates children. If in the moment of release (orgasm), it is not allowed to flow outward, but is led back by the force of thought, so that it penetrates the crucible of the creative and refreshes the heart and body and nourishes them, this also is the backward-flowing method.” Therefore it is said: ‘The meaning of the elixir of life depends on the backward-flowing method!’ This is called Urdhva-retas in Sanskrit by Yoga adepts.

Ian2day
21-02-2009, 01:37 PM
Thank you all so much for this thread and your responses. Is there anyway to obtain copies of the books mentioned either physically or in pdf format?

1977
22-02-2009, 01:41 AM
Thank you all so much for this thread and your responses. Is there anyway to obtain copies of the books mentioned either physically or in pdf format?
I'm not sure what books you're talking about, but you can find a Word DOC file of Atwood's book here: http://www.rexresearch.com/zip/atwood.zip

The Alchemy Code can be purchased here: http://www.thealchemycode.org/?q=products . The book's main thesis is that the Bible actually encodes the process of Alchemy. Now, I cannot speak for the Old Testament, but for the New Testament, this is absolutely true. The first Christians were Gnostic alchemists--as the Naassene Document that I linked proves.

One thing I cannot fail to mention is the peculiar role that homosexuality apparently plays in the whole process. The Naassenes, again, were quite blatant in stating that homosexual sex was nothing less than the key to their whole system. And here we may be able to understand the bewildering amount of obfuscation that the alchemists went through to conceal their practices--and why the Stone might be "hidden in the mud" or the "darkest earth".

Ian2day
22-02-2009, 02:18 AM
I'm not sure what books you're talking about, but you can find a Word DOC file of Atwood's book here: http://www.rexresearch.com/zip/atwood.zip

The Alchemy Code can be purchased here: http://www.thealchemycode.org/?q=products . The book's main thesis is that the Bible actually encodes the process of Alchemy. Now, I cannot speak for the Old Testament, but for the New Testament, this is absolutely true. The first Christians were Gnostic alchemists--as the Naassene Document that I linked proves.

One thing I cannot fail to mention is the peculiar role that homosexuality apparently plays in the whole process. The Naassenes, again, were quite blatant in stating that homosexual sex was nothing less than the key to their whole system. And here we may be able to understand the bewildering amount of obfuscation that the alchemists went through to conceal their practices--and why the Stone might be "hidden in the mud" or the "darkest earth".

Oh I see... Perhaps the alchemist teachings will not give me what I am looking for. Although saying that I do see that perhaps the various modern day religions are based on the worship of one of the different four elements. With the knowledge having been spread amoung many faiths.

1977
22-02-2009, 03:35 AM
Oh I see... Perhaps the alchemist teachings will not give me what I am looking for. Although saying that I do see that perhaps the various modern day religions are based on the worship of one of the different four elements. With the knowledge having been spread amoung many faiths.
This is why I stress that I am only semi-acquainted with the theory behind it. ;)

Edit: I had said that there were more palpable methods, but reading through Atwood's book, she writes, "In friendship, gratitude, and reciprocity of benefaction, say the adepts, consists the chief art of operating with their matter; and no man ... can operate the Hermetic artifice alone." So maybe not? I really don't know much of anything about this stuff.

Edit: I mean, maybe you can figure out what this means:

But the Alchemical art has been continually compared to agriculture; and the analogy, indeed, appears to bear throughout so intimately as to suggest and, almost without deviation, point out the method of its application. The body is gold, says the author of the New Light, which yields seed, our lune or silver, not common silver, is that which receives the seed of the gold, afterwards it is governed by our continual fire for seven months (philosophical), and sometimes ten, until our water consume three and leave one; and that in duplo or a double. Then it is nourished with the milk of the earth, or the fatness thereof, which is bred in the bowels of the earth and is governed and preserved from putrefaction by the salt of nature: and thus the infant of the second generation is produced; and when the seed of that which is now brought forth is put again into its own matrix, it purifies it, ad makes it a thousand time more fit and apt to bring forth the best and most excellent fruits. But, before the metallic light is brought to this ultimate perfection, it must many times, therefore, suffer itself to be eclipsed, and die and corrupt, as the adepts teach, according to the similitude of nature; yet, with this difference, that whereas the produce of common husbandry exhausts and deteriorates rapidly the earth whence it springs, and is always terminated in its kind without progression, the ethereal seed, on the other hand, tends always to improve its generation, fertilizing by the return of each successive growth, and enriching its maternal soil; and this process , according to Hermes, is repeated seven times before the final resurrection of the Quintessence into a permanent form of life.

infinite tea
23-02-2009, 04:18 PM
Know Yourself.

Theirin lie the answers.


Infinite tea, your description of dark light intrigues me. I have found a flame of pure light to reside in all things, but this little flame is smothered by seeds/clouds of darkness that surround it (I wonder if this is your dark light?). The trick is lening to find the little flame inside and giving it breathing room to grow and balance the darkness.

1977

You would know it if your kundalini rose to you throat or above.

What is lighter than light? What remains when all else is gone? Is this the unmanifest light of eternal being - the dark light.

infinite tea
23-02-2009, 04:21 PM
I am only acquainted with the vaguest sort of theory--not the practice.

This site goes into great detail: http://www.thealchemycode.org/?q=node/22

Brilliant thanks for that, that's really made sense of something for me - huge gratitude 1977 :-)

1977
24-02-2009, 12:28 AM
Brilliant thanks for that, that's really made sense of something for me - huge gratitude 1977 :-)
The excerpts (http://www.thealchemycode.org/?q=excerpts) that you can (and should) on that site are certainly the most explicit of anything I have found online that details the physical process of alchemy. You will never look at the Bible the same way again, that's for sure.

This also means that people like Jordan Maxwell who reduce the Bible solely to Astro-Theology are only touching upon the Macrocosmic side of what is ultimately a Microcosmic Mystery.

But if the Bible was conceived as a vehicle for alchemy, why, and by whose design? If we are to believe that the reptilian brotherhoods wrote these things--and indeed, the "Naassenes" = "those of the serpent"--are they merely here as Macrocosmic agents of an alchemical process that pertains to all of humanity? This is the very scenario Arthur C. Clarke wrote about (complete with reptilian Overlords (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlord_(species))) in his book Childhood's End (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood's_End). How much did he really know? The mind boggles.

Edit: But after reading through all of Atwood's A Suggestive Inquiry, I'm not sure I can really recommend it. It's written in an extremely obtuse style that seems to ramble for page after page without saying anything at all. But on the other hand, it is incredibly lucid at times, and is one of the only books to make the (highly likely) connection between the Mystery Cults, Neoplatonism and alchemy.

lightgiver
24-02-2009, 12:39 AM
What is lighter than light? What remains when all else is gone? Is this the unmanifest light of eternal being - the dark light.

Or the state of Sorrowless Light.:)

infinite tea
25-10-2009, 10:12 PM
Or the state of Sorrowless Light.:)

Yeh :-)