MUST WATCH VIDEO: Genesis Conflict

[guntherznads]

This guy's lectures are fucking amazing ! If this has been posted before it deserves to be posted again. I never thought I would ever hear anyone
talk about Jesus in a clear and detailed manner, and with out the usual circular logic that always leaves me with more questions than answers.

http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-video-Genesis-Conflict.html

This dude destroys the evolution theory. Completely. I dare you to watch all eight parts and not walk away with a whole new perspective. I'll be posting this in other areas of the forum as well.

[quysant]

This guy's lectures are fucking amazing ! If this has been posted before it deserves to be posted again. I never thought I would ever hear anyone talk about Jesus in a clear and detailed manner, and with out the usual circular logic that always leaves me with more questions than answers.

http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-video-Genesis-Conflict.html

This dude destroys the evolution theory. Completely. I dare you to watch all eight parts and not walk away with a whole new perspective. I'll be posting this in other areas of the forum as well.

To qualify as a fact, it must be observable and verifiable.

The reasons why we say that Evolution is a fact is the same as why we say that gravity is a fact. We can observe it and verify it.
The fossil records, for example, show that biological entities change over time. They are all verifiable and observable.  

In the English vernacular, "theory" often means "imperfect fact"- This is incorrect.
Facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty.

Facts are the world's data.
Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts.

Facts don't go away whilst rival theories are debated to explain them.
Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in mid-air, pending the outcome.

Even "The Vatican has admitted that Charles Darwin was on the right track when he claimed that Man descended from apes."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article5705331.ece

In a forum it is difficult to discuss with "video lectures", but if you personally would like to discuss the issue of Jesus or Evolution or Genesis, do put up your argument and we can take it from there...

But if you just like watching videos on the subject, here are some good ones for you:

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=potholer54

God and DNA - YouTube

[deadskinball]

Funny that.

A religious site which tries to claim its making scientific discoveries and purporting them as truth.

Pseudo-Intelluectual garbage!!

...and people will get sucked into believing it.

Here's a hint, guysant. Don't take as fact a site which has religious underpinnings because EVERY SINGLE ONE of those sites will skew the published science to fit in with their agenda: religion.

Oh, by the way, evolution is observed within the laboratory. If you disagree, then you disagee that MRSA does exist (as one example)

Evolution is fact. Anyone who denies this is intellectually corrupt.

[storm knight]

To qualify as a fact, it must be observable and verifiable.

The reasons why we say that Evolution is a fact is the same as why we say that gravity is a fact. We can observe it and verify it.
The fossil records, for example, show that biological entities change over time. They are all verifiable and observable.  

In the English vernacular, "theory" often means "imperfect fact"- This is incorrect.
Facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty.

Facts are the world's data.
Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts.

Facts don't go away whilst rival theories are debated to explain them.
Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in mid-air, pending the outcome.

Even "The Vatican has admitted that Charles Darwin was on the right track when he claimed that Man descended from apes."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article5705331.ece

In a forum it is difficult to discuss with "video lectures", but if you personally would like to discuss the issue of Jesus or Evolution or Genesis, do put up your argument and we can take it from there...

But if you just like watching videos on the subject, here are some good ones for you:

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=potholer54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXfIop5ZOsY

Goto the museum about fossils, you will hear even some teachers say
Fossils prove this.
Well fossils can't prove this.

It's complete utter disgrace.

There are no fossils showing the complete steps of mans evolution, fact.
The Darwinism theory is not proven!

[lightgiver]

This guy's lectures are fucking amazing ! If this has been posted before it deserves to be posted again. I never thought I would ever hear anyone
talk about Jesus in a clear and detailed manner, and with out the usual circular logic that always leaves me with more questions than answers.

http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-video-Genesis-Conflict.html

This dude destroys the evolution theory. Completely. I dare you to watch all eight parts and not walk away with a whole new perspective. I'll be posting this in other areas of the forum as well.

Agreed :)

Have you watched monkey blood on video google,and have you heard of the Gene of Isis :)

[muzzled]

Funny that.

A religious site which tries to claim its making scientific discoveries and purporting them as truth.

Pseudo-Intelluectual garbage!!

...and people will get sucked into believing it.

Here's a hint, guysant. Don't take as fact a site which has religious underpinnings because EVERY SINGLE ONE of those sites will skew the published science to fit in with their agenda: religion.

Oh, by the way, evolution is observed within the laboratory. If you disagree, then you disagee that MRSA does exist (as one example)

Evolution is fact. Anyone who denies this is intellectually corrupt.

Rubbish!!

[muzzled]

This guy's lectures are fucking amazing ! If this has been posted before it deserves to be posted again. I never thought I would ever hear anyone
talk about Jesus in a clear and detailed manner, and with out the usual circular logic that always leaves me with more questions than answers.

http://amazingdiscoveries.org/media-video-Genesis-Conflict.html

This dude destroys the evolution theory. Completely. I dare you to watch all eight parts and not walk away with a whole new perspective. I'll be posting this in other areas of the forum as well.

Thanks dude.

These people arent interested in the truth mate.

[muzzled]

[QUOTE]Even "The Vatican has admitted that Charles Darwin was on the right track when he claimed that Man descended from apes." [/QUOTE by quysant

So, if the Great Whore that sits on the seven hills agrees with Darwin, that means it must be true. Nice one. Shakes head in utter amazement.

[cruise4]

"Evolution is fact. Anyone who denies this is intellectually corrupt."

The word evolution as you use it could be substituted with 'change'. Is that what you are saying? species change over time? That is fairly obvious. Isn't the basis of the evolution argument actually about 'Darwinian Evolution', and if so why not say so. Might it be because Darwinian Evolution is a bullshit whereas 'evolution' means all things to all men and therefore sets up an unwinnable situation for any opposing view?

As regards 'facts'... there are no facts. A infinite amount of people could be hypnotised into thinking a tiger is the room. Doesn't make it true does it, observable and verifiable as it might 'appear' to be. So you drop in 'world' data to cover your ass once again introducing an unwinnable situation.

Gravity is NOT a fact at all. But once again no qualification creating for yourself a 'favoured' situation.

Nice one. Are you a scientist?

[deadskinball]

evolution as you use it could be substituted with 'change'. Is that what you are saying?

Evolution is change.

If something stays the same over a long time, then it is understood that it has not evolved to something of which it suits it environs a little bit better. Hence, if there is not such pressure which 'cleanes' out the weaker type, then why change? Evolution does not happen for the sake of it, there must be reason.

The reason why I gave that example of Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is due to the observable change (read: evolution) due to pressures of antibiotics. If those selective pressures were not there, why change? Also, bacteria have very short reproduction intervals. We can grow some in a media and then upset it somehow and observe the results. If we have a "version 2" of an organsim which is (for example) resistant to the selective pressure we applied, then we can say it has evolved (read: changed) into something better to suit the current situation (micro-evolution). Given enough changes, we could possibly 'create' a new species similar (but different enough) to the original (macro-evolution).

Micro-evolution = changes specific to the situation whichever they may be. Macro-evolution = "enough micro-evolutions to change it sufficiently" based on time.

A long time (relevant to reproduction speeds of an organism *more below*) which such changes (however many they may be) eventually changes one sort of organism to another new type. Macro-evolution is the most misunderstood by theists due to their incredulous idea of such long times.

* time periods vary with organisms reproduction rate. A long time for bacteria may be three weeks, a long time for humans may be millions of years.

A fact is undeniable proof (according to scientific naturalism). Once again, MSRA (because we know so much about it) evolved in the lab 'right before our very eyes'. The mechanism was understood, the result repeatable (to the current conclusion of resistance to a certain drug), it was observed and the theory (ie: the scientific literature of genetics) confirms the observation, the outcome and the finished product (until the finished product is influenced by out newer drugs).



Now, since this is a religion sub-forum, I must say somthing to that effect:

Those of you who claim it as:

Rubbish!!

should just put your head back in the sand.