Subscribing to Useless Information or Useful?

[christophera]

The smoking gun thread is a great thread, but posters are just blowing smoke and not showing how their respective information can be used to get more truth.

If we are sincere truth seekers, that is what we need and want, .......... correct?

If that is what you wish to support with your 9-11 activism, do you wonder how you can actually do it if none of the proposals and information is useful? Perhaps it is time to define your needs a little better and contemplate exactly how you would support useful information if it was presented.

Useful in the case of 9-11 means "official action". Private corporations do not, no matter who they are, have a right or capacity to subpoena/demand/compel information from anybody anywhere. Maybe in Iraq halliburton can use a fully auto m16 pointed in an Muslims face to get answers, but here in the US that is not going to work.

Officials have written regulations and laws they must observe. They are obligated to observe those and have taken oaths of office that they must, technically uphold. It is the central part of their job. All US citizens that are not 9-11 truth activists basically think that officials have been accountable to following laws, or, .......... those citizens have basically given up on a rightful and lawful civilized society and are looking for deals on ammunition.

Perhaps, if they saw a proposal for 9-11 activism that actually showed that the law enforcement authorities with jurisdiction over the WTC at the time of 9-11 had not completed obligatory duties relating to 9-11, those citizens may join in the truth movement which has an actual focus, because they might actually prefer making some simple appearances at protests where mass citizenry DEMANDS official action over trading bullets with marauders or renegade law enforcement seeking greater and greater control in a failed society.

I believe that even John and Jane Doe can understand that an analysis of a buildings collapse cannot be properly or competently completed WITHOUT knowing the exact design.

I have very good evidence substantiating the allegation that FEMA misrepresented the structure of the Twin Towers to NIST but do to the extensive psyops of 9-11 disinformation/misinformation, subversive agents ABOUND on internet message boards creating an environment of confusion which seriously degrades the environment where we seek truth. I'm certain that D ARPA financed the internet because the infiltrators realized that the US populations could be easily mislead with reliance on the internet.;

Therefore my solitary efforts are impaired by the psyops. This is so critical that I've created a petition to gather signatures requesting that the quasi authority of 9-11 address the structural deception of FEMA by providing evidence of the core from 9-11 of the towers that FEMA states existed.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/911WTC

The party that created that just made a new one which has no signatures yet because I had requested it. The original petition, (http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/WorldTradeCenter911) with 6 signatures had a title that was confusing and not explanatory of the true nature of the petition so please sign the new one if inclined.

The petition also asks that message boards where I've been banned for posting evidence of the tower core that actually existed from 9-11 as the towers are coming apart, reinstate my posting privileges.

If the above is understandable, please post that you do understand it and

[tannah]

The smoking gun thread is a great thread, but posters are just blowing smoke and not showing how their respective information can be used to get more truth.

If we are sincere truth seekers, that is what we need and want, .......... correct?

If that is what you wish to support with your 9-11 activism, do you wonder how you can actually do it if none of the proposals and information is useful? Perhaps it is time to define your needs a little better and contemplate exactly how you would support useful information if it was presented.

Useful in the case of 9-11 means "official action". Private corporations do not, no matter who they are, have a right or capacity to subpoena/demand/compel information from anybody anywhere. Maybe in Iraq halliburton can use a fully auto m16 pointed in an Muslims face to get answers, but here in the US that is not going to work.

Officials have written regulations and laws they must observe. They are obligated to observe those and have taken oaths of office that they must, technically uphold. It is the central part of their job. All US citizens that are not 9-11 truth activists basically think that officials have been accountable to following laws, or, .......... those citizens have basically given up on a rightful and lawful civilized society and are looking for deals on ammunition.

Perhaps, if they saw a proposal for 9-11 activism that actually showed that the law enforcement authorities with jurisdiction over the WTC at the time of 9-11 had not completed obligatory duties relating to 9-11, those citizens may join in the truth movement which has an actual focus, because they might actually prefer making some simple appearances at protests where mass citizenry DEMANDS official action over trading bullets with marauders or renegade law enforcement seeking greater and greater control in a failed society.

I believe that even John and Jane Doe can understand that an analysis of a buildings collapse cannot be properly or competently completed WITHOUT knowing the exact design.

I have very good evidence substantiating the allegation that FEMA misrepresented the structure of the Twin Towers to NIST but do to the extensive psyops of 9-11 disinformation/misinformation, subversive agents ABOUND on internet message boards creating an environment of confusion which seriously degrades the environment where we seek truth. I'm certain that D ARPA financed the internet because the infiltrators realized that the US populations could be easily mislead with reliance on the internet.;

Therefore my solitary efforts are impaired by the psyops. This is so critical that I've created a petition to gather signatures requesting that the quasi authority of 9-11 address the structural deception of FEMA by providing evidence of the core from 9-11 of the towers that FEMA states existed.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/911WTC

The party that created that just made a new one which has no signatures yet because I had requested it. The original petition, (http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/WorldTradeCenter911) with 6 signatures had a title that was confusing and not explanatory of the true nature of the petition so please sign the new one if inclined.

The petition also asks that message boards where I've been banned for posting evidence of the tower core that actually existed from 9-11 as the towers are coming apart, reinstate my posting privileges.

If the above is understandable, please post that you do understand it and

Here's where you got it a little wrong:


Therefore my solitary efforts are impaired by the psyops.

It's quite apparent that your "solitary" efforts are due to you, and not the people. I would have given you more time of day had you not labelled me as some supporter of mass murder, you prick. Bare that in mind if you actually sincerely wish to gain support for truth's sake.

Apologize, and maybe I'll give you more of my attention.

[christophera]

Here's where you got it a little wrong:

It's quite apparent that your "solitary" efforts are due to you, and not the people. I would have given you more time of day had you not labelled me as some supporter of mass murder, you prick. Bare that in mind if you actually sincerely wish to gain support for truth's sake.

Apologize, and maybe I'll give you more of my attention.

Too late in the game to entertain your twisting of the situation to try and cover the fact you have no evidence of anything. No theory and no explanation. I have a great deal of evidence and support for the explanations I've provided that are completely feasible.

I've been stung with your deceptive manuevering, only positive deeds supporting lawful government in America can redeem you.

You've had your chance to stop supporting that the means of mass murder remain secret, but you have chose to ignore evidence and reason so that places you where you are.

[stannrodd]

You've had your chance to stop supporting that the means of mass murder remain secret, but you have chose to ignore evidence and reason so that places you where you are.

Judge, Jury, executioner !!

Having a good time are we Chris !!

Stann

[secondsun]

....Chris is now on the verge of totally taking over the 9-11 forum posting ludicrous titled topics!... Mod`s!... have you noticed?

[christophera]

....Chris is now on the verge of totally taking over the 9-11 forum posting ludicrous titled topics!... Mod`s!... have you noticed?

It's called victory. You and your troupe are exposed in collusion. All exhibiting the same ultimate behavior that can only have one purpose. Dismissing information. You attempt do this with NO information/evidence of your own and no properly expressed motive that can be reasoned.

You are not reasonable, your position cannot be reasoned, you do not use evidence, you have no explanation for anything, you all direct your energy at me and the information I bring which does explain what happened, and how DESPITE the fact I can explain exactly how it can be used to get more truth.

A logical person can only conclude that you have been,
EXPOSED

[christophera]

Judge, Jury, executioner !!

Having a good time are we Chris !!

Stann

Your fellow New Zealanders will take care of you further down the path.

I'm sure once the truth is known, your legacy of evil doings will be shameful thing. I'm just the investigator and prosecutor that has exposed you and that was all I could do. By your very persistentence I succeed, Because it makes your motive clear, you cannot stop, no matter how unreasonable you might get, the dismissal of the information and the concrete core are your mission.

But you don't care, you have confidence in the power. You don't know that such power is not without great intelligence, and can see that their destiny as living things wil not endure if the truths that drive them are not known and accepted, by them and everyone else.

[bryan]

....Chris is now on the verge of totally taking over the 9-11 forum posting ludicrous titled topics!... Mod`s!... have you noticed?

It's as if he's trying his best to get banned, so he can move on to another forum and convince some more gullible people he's a martyr. I wonder which other forums he's active on at present.

[tannah]

Too late in the game to entertain your twisting of the situation to try and cover the fact you have no evidence of anything. No theory and no explanation. I have a great deal of evidence and support for the explanations I've provided that are completely feasible.

I've been stung with your deceptive manuevering, only positive deeds supporting lawful government in America can redeem you.

You've had your chance to stop supporting that the means of mass murder remain secret, but you have chose to ignore evidence and reason so that places you where you are.


So whilst I have only posted about the need for an investigation in order to expose mass murder, you wish to stigmatize me as a supporter of it?

You'v given me this "for me or against me" attitude. I'm neither of those two things. But I take a great deal of offense in your accusations against me.

An investigation may prove if the plans are fake. It may unearth this video of yours. Without the proof of these things here and now you won't make a lot of progress, and skeptics will eat you up.

I have every right to say I don't believe there is enough surety in your theory to unite the people behind you. The way you deal with that is your problem.

Instead of being against those other reasons that people are calling for an investigation, you should simply join these people and add your theory to it.
Put it in the hat. Say you have reason to believe the plans were faked. Inform these groups about a video you saw. Unite with these people that want the truth to come out, rather than thinking yourself an island.

[white horse]

Instead of being against those other reasons that people are calling for an investigation, you should simply join these people and add your theory to it.
Put it in the hat. Say you have reason to believe the plans were faked. Inform these groups about a video you saw. Unite with these people that want the truth to come out, rather than thinking yourself an island.

Agreed.

[matrix911]

If we are sincere truth seekers, that is what we need and want, .......... correct?
If that is what you wish to support with your 9-11 activism, do you wonder how you can actually do it if none of the proposals and information is useful?


NO TRUE OBJECTIVE TRUTHSEEKER who's done a full investigation and seen ALL THE EVIDENCE would ever call NPT, NUKES or DEW, let alone ALL 3, USELESS information and imply they are NOT IMPORTANT or RELEVANT to the discussion of 911.

Until there's CONCLUSIVE PROOF those "theories" are false and have NO EVIDENCE to support them, your claim they're useless is nothing more than an OPINION... and since ones OPINION is worthless when determining whether somethings TRUE or not and in no way can disprove a FACT or evidence, the OPINION that NPT, DEW and NUKES are useless, IS USELESS.

have a nice day.

[stannrodd]

It's as if he's trying his best to get banned, so he can move on to another forum and convince some more gullible people he's a martyr. I wonder which other forums he's active on at present.

It gets better than that .. he even claims to get banned when he's not banned and still does the martyr routine ..:rolleyes:

Stann