View Full Version : Was the ark ofthe covenant a communication device?
michael christopher
13-02-2009, 10:42 PM
This thought occurred to me today while reading from the book of Judges. I came across this interesting passage.
Judges 20:27
And the children of Israel inquired of the Lord, (for the ark of the covenant of God was there in those days.
What could that possibly mean? It means they inquired of God not spiritually but literally, using the ark.
God also says that he will communicate with Moses from "between the two cherubim" in Exodus.
Exodus 25:22
And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.
This is very interesting because God is telling Moses how he is going to literally communicate with him. There are many passages in the Bible which lead me to believe that cherubims are machines. There is a cherubim that spews forth fire at the entrance of the Garden of Eden. They are long thought of as angels, but so far I have seen no passages that actually refer to them as such... perhaps cherubims are ancient machines, "divinely inspired" from alien intervention.
In Jeremiah 3:16, Jeremiah prophecies that there will come a time when the Lord will no longer speak to mankind by the use of the ark.
16: And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the Lord, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the Lord: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more.
This could also be referring to people not hearing the Lord within themselves, forgetting the covenant. The only thing that stops me from that is that it mentions the ark specifically, and if it is referring to how we will forget, why not just mention the covenant? Just something to point out.
Just some thoughts! The first passage I posted from Judges seems pretty convincing to me.
mephibosheth
13-02-2009, 11:34 PM
The ark is a very interesting object. The great mystery, of course, is where is the thing now?? Someone's got it. And it's not sitting in a wooden box in area 51, Mr. Jones.
Some have speculated that the ark was a weapon. Others, a communication device. From the description of the ark, it seems likely that it was some kind of conduit of power. I mean, all that gold, the fact that people that touched it fried like eggs, the fact that it had to be carried around on wooden poles only. So, what was IN the thing? I seriously doubt it was the ten commandments. More like 10 fuel cells powering a hyperdimensional telephone!!
It's interesting. The old tales are pretty clear about God and gods interacting with people in physical ways. They speak to us, they take us places, they sit on thrones, they give commands. These are things that human being experienced, saw with their eyes. Were they in the presence of physical beings? It seems likely.
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themime
13-02-2009, 11:37 PM
In Jeremiah 3:16, Jeremiah prophecies that there will come a time when the Lord will no longer speak to mankind by the use of the ark.
I believe that the tearing of the Temple curtain during the crucifixion and with it the end of the mystery religion would have fulfilled this prophecy.
lightblessins
14-02-2009, 01:37 AM
what i believe n know the ark of the covenant did;
1, helped maintain the orbit of earth
2, helped the electro magnetic flow of earths vibrations
3, helped communication device to highier dimensions
4, helped in the male energies of earth
:)
magickman
23-02-2009, 07:02 PM
I think the communication device known as the Ark was so Moses and his tribe could contact the Annuanuki Gods on their planet, called Nibiru in the Sumerian tongue, and Wormwood in the Bible.
brainfreeze
23-02-2009, 07:08 PM
I saw a documentary years back where it was speculated that the ark was in Etheopia.
If it was a communicative device, why did God stop speaking?
magickman
23-02-2009, 10:28 PM
I saw a documentary years back where it was speculated that the ark was in Etheopia.
This is what I heard also, but no one knows for certain. My theory is the Templars found the Ark beneath Solomon's stables, and carried it back with them. They may still be in possession of it, and the Ethiopian story may be a front.
If it was a communicative device, why did God stop speaking?
Because "God" went away on the planet, or spacecraft he came on. The Sumerian texts bear this out, but many disregard these texts as "myths." The God of the Old Testament, IMHO, is non other than El, of the Annunaki. The Holy Bible even calls God El.
In order to gain some idea of the meaning of this name of God, Elohim, we must examine its origin and note how, generally, it is used. There is some difference of opinion as to the root from which Elohim is derived. Some hold to the view that it is derived from the shorter word El, which means mighty, strong, prominent. This word El itself is translated "God" some 250 times and frequently in circumstances which especially indicate the great power of God. For instance, in Numbers 23:22 God is spoken of as the El who brought Israel up out of Egypt--"he bath as it were the strength of an unicorn" (wild ox). The Scriptures make very much of God's mighty arm in that great deliverance. In Deuteronomy 10:17 we read that "Jehovah your Elohim is God of gods, and Lord of lords, the God or El who is great, mighty, and dreadful." It is this word El which is used in that great name Almighty God, the name under which God made great and mighty promises to Abraham and to Jacob (Genesis 17:1; 35:11 ). It is also one of the names given to that promised Son and Messiah of Isaiah 9:6, 7--God, the Mighty.
Research Links:
Sumerian Information of the Annunaki
http://www.mazzaroth.com/ChapterThree/SumerianInfoOfAnnunaki-Anakim.htm
Eridu and the Annunaki
http://www.librarising.com/spirituality/eridu.html
Sumerian Gods and Goddesses
http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods.html
THE ANNUNAKI, ANCIENT GODS
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/blog0926.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/dilmuntoearth.jpg
I believe that the tearing of the Temple curtain during the crucifixion and with it the end of the mystery religion would have fulfilled this prophecy.
Astute.
The ark certainly resembles a communication device or a power/energy creator. I, too have heard the Ethiopia rumor as to its current location. I believe it is still considered a very sacred and powerful object.
What was the real point of it? Speculation. The subject is a fascinating one.
watson_k
23-02-2009, 10:55 PM
Some reckon it was a capacitor. (I do not advise you to do this) What would happen if you touch the capacitor in the back of your t.v? It'd send you to the other side of the room. Increase the capacitor size by the measurements of the Ark (or Arc..ha?! no you don't get it? pooh.) and what you get? ...people literally frying.
It was said when the Jews fled Egypt, they took the ark with them, which is one of the main reasons that the Pharaoh cased after them.
A few centuries ago, some sects of Jews, Perhaps some modern day Magi/Essenes (same sect of Jews) brought the ark to a church in Ethiopia because they were scared such a cherished object would be desecrated or destroyed during an impending invasion. Ethiopia because of bonds that had been formed there by the coming together of Solomon, and the ‘queen of Sheba’, who was the ruler of what is now called Ethiopia.
But what do I know, I'm a jobless idiot according to the Uk government. :cool:
Pffft...You're an idiot? I couldn't even think of the word capacitor.
This thought occurred to me today while reading from the book of Judges. I came across this interesting passage.
Judges 20:27
What could that possibly mean? It means they inquired of God not spiritually but literally, using the ark.
God also says that he will communicate with Moses from "between the two cherubim" in Exodus.
Exodus 25:22
This is very interesting because God is telling Moses how he is going to literally communicate with him. There are many passages in the Bible which lead me to believe that cherubims are machines. There is a cherubim that spews forth fire at the entrance of the Garden of Eden. They are long thought of as angels, but so far I have seen no passages that actually refer to them as such... perhaps cherubims are ancient machines, "divinely inspired" from alien intervention.
In Jeremiah 3:16, Jeremiah prophecies that there will come a time when the Lord will no longer speak to mankind by the use of the ark.
This could also be referring to people not hearing the Lord within themselves, forgetting the covenant. The only thing that stops me from that is that it mentions the ark specifically, and if it is referring to how we will forget, why not just mention the covenant? Just something to point out.
Just some thoughts! The first passage I posted from Judges seems pretty convincing to me.
Of course it was/is a communication "device".
The tablets communicated the ten commandments.
cheers
dedicate
24-02-2009, 07:53 PM
The Ark and the tablets are two different things. But still the ARk was a communication devise.,, but not a machine, like a telephone, communication devise.
The Ark and the tablets are two different things. But still the ARk was a communication devise.,, but not a machine, like a telephone, communication devise.
who said they were one and the same?
dedicate
24-02-2009, 08:22 PM
I think you did. But maybe you are referring to something in a previous post, which I missed.
Stated: "The Ark was a communication devise.. The tablets communicated the ten commandments". This implies to me that the tablets are either part of the Ark or is the Ark.
Maybe you could have said, "The Ark was a communication devise. There are many kinds of communication devises, the tablets for example."
Of course it was an information communication device .Mobile phones where a lot bigger in those days ! . I often used to think when i was a child attending church that the spire represented a rocket / and ariel tower , and the alter! was a communication console .The host being in the whatever it is called reminded me of a microphone as the priest always stood directly in front of it and bowed before it . I thought maybe ancient memory kicking in . :D
Are any of you into the concept of oneness,our seperate conciousneses being part of the cossmic concious,and all that.If you are the human being is the lost ark,or does your box need to a wooden one.;) Block heads :D
scatlond
24-02-2009, 08:50 PM
You may find this interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UPnTUMCh80
You may find this interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UPnTUMCh80
Yes very articulate,was was he saying:confused:
brainfreeze
25-02-2009, 05:27 PM
This is what I heard also, but no one knows for certain. My theory is the Templars found the Ark beneath Solomon's stables, and carried it back with them. They may still be in possession of it, and the Ethiopian story may be a front.
Because "God" went away on the planet, or spacecraft he came on. The Sumerian texts bear this out, but many disregard these texts as "myths." The God of the Old Testament, IMHO, is non other than El, of the Annunaki. The Holy Bible even calls God El.
In order to gain some idea of the meaning of this name of God, Elohim, we must examine its origin and note how, generally, it is used. There is some difference of opinion as to the root from which Elohim is derived. Some hold to the view that it is derived from the shorter word El, which means mighty, strong, prominent. This word El itself is translated "God" some 250 times and frequently in circumstances which especially indicate the great power of God. For instance, in Numbers 23:22 God is spoken of as the El who brought Israel up out of Egypt--"he bath as it were the strength of an unicorn" (wild ox). The Scriptures make very much of God's mighty arm in that great deliverance. In Deuteronomy 10:17 we read that "Jehovah your Elohim is God of gods, and Lord of lords, the God or El who is great, mighty, and dreadful." It is this word El which is used in that great name Almighty God, the name under which God made great and mighty promises to Abraham and to Jacob (Genesis 17:1; 35:11 ). It is also one of the names given to that promised Son and Messiah of Isaiah 9:6, 7--God, the Mighty.
Research Links:
Sumerian Information of the Annunaki
http://www.mazzaroth.com/ChapterThree/SumerianInfoOfAnnunaki-Anakim.htm
Eridu and the Annunaki
http://www.librarising.com/spirituality/eridu.html
Sumerian Gods and Goddesses
http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods.html
THE ANNUNAKI, ANCIENT GODS
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/blog0926.htm
http://www.crystalinks.com/dilmuntoearth.jpg
I've been away for a few days. Thanks for the info. Interesting, I didn't know any of this :)
oddblock
25-02-2009, 05:43 PM
Read lost secrets of the ancient ark by Laurence Gardner - it's a great read and delves in to the ark being a kind of generator used to both atomise gold and as a weapon. You may be able to get a PDF version but I'm a technopeasant and wouldn't know where to find it :(