Nearly a Billion Starving Worldwide

[gilly]

http://blacklistednews.com/?news_id=3300

And the UN have the brass-necked audacity to make warnings of the situation worsening.

These are the monsters who will push GM poison on 3rd world countries & the rest of us, while, (through Codex Alimentarius) banning as hazardous, the vitamim & nutrient rich biscuits previously provided in emergencies to the starving nations. :mad:

[jiffy]

Tis a disgrace but sadly nothing new, the British empire has killed millions with forced starvation, look what happened in India in 18th century. Still the celebrity thread is far more important, and of course calling me an agent ect

[mr facts]

1 in every 7 human beings are starving on the planet! This is grim! Makes you sick when you think of all the fat bastards in the west stuffing there fat faces without a thought for the people starving who prob grew the food in the first place. Its a mad world folks.

[gilly]

Tis a disgrace but sadly nothing new, the British empire has killed millions with forced starvation, look what happened in India in 18th century. Still the celebrity thread is far more important, and of course calling me an agent ect

Why, who's been calling you an agent now?

You've not been expressing an opinion have you?

What makes me giggle, is I'll bet there has never been a single "agent" on this forum - the real ones have got better things to do. :D

[Ratiocinator]

~90 % of all grain grown is fed to farm animals. No one would starve in a vegan world.

[venividivici2311]

The whole world has money to buy guns,but no money to buy food.....:(

Sick world this is!

[freedom_thoughts]

~90 % of all grain grown is fed to farm animals. No one would starve in a vegan world.

Partly correct.

The percentage of grain grown for animals is around that figure, but a completely vegan world cannot exist.

There isn't enough usable land that is capable of growing food to feed all the people in the world at 'current' population levels, we'd be looking at around 'atleast' a 50% reduction for humans to be 'able' to eat completely vegan.

Even if that came about, if we look through history, we will see that all tribes people over hundreds of thousands of years have always eaten animal flesh of some kind.

[freedom_thoughts]

The whole world has money to buy guns,but no money to buy food.....:(

Sick world this is!

It is a sick world, and all of us on these forums are some of the sickest too.

We all sit around our expensive computers getting angry at the amount of people in the world who go hungry everyday, yet continue sitting around our computers, doing nothing about those poor people?

We all continue to live over-consuming lives whilst people go hungry in the world, with barely a house to live in and clothing on their back.

Yet we all still go to our daily lives, sitting at our computers getting angry at these poor hungry people.

We all are the sickness of this world, and yes me included.

:o

[Ratiocinator]

Partly correct.

The percentage of grain grown for animals is around that figure, but a completely vegan world cannot exist.

There isn't enough usable land that is capable of growing food to feed all the people in the world at 'current' population levels, we'd be looking at around 'atleast' a 50% reduction for humans to be 'able' to eat completely vegan.

Your reasoning is flawed and your conclusion is utterly erroneous.

In the vegan world much more land would become free as currently 80 - 95 % of all farm land, arable and otherwise, is used for meat and dairy.

It takes around 12 lb of plant protein to produce around a pound of animal protein. It is incredibly inefficient.

In the vegan world most of the land would become free and unneeded. We could plant trees on it and restore many obliterated wildlife habitats.


if we look through history, we will see that all tribes people over hundreds of thousands of years have always eaten animal flesh of some kind.

Totally irrelevant.

[freedom_thoughts]

Your reasoning is flawed and your conclusion is utterly erroneous.

In the vegan world much more land would become free as currently 80 - 95 % of all farm land, arable and otherwise, is used for meat and dairy.

It takes around 12 lb of plant protein to produce around a pound of animal protein. It is incredibly inefficient.

In the vegan world most of the land would become free and unneeded. We could plant trees on it and restore many obliterated wildlife habitats.



Firstly let me say that I have been a vegan, for a number of years, but decided that it wasn't and isn't sustainable, so I know all the 'stats' that are thrown at meat eaters, so theres no need to quote any to me.

Living in the UK, I came to realise that I cannot get the same nutrients I get from eating animal flesh without unsustainably importing foods from another country.

I agree with you that much 'more' land would become available to use for humans to plant up if we all stopped eating meat. However, I am also aware that even if that became possible, there still would not be enough land to plant up, to then feed 'all' of the humans on this planet.

[venividivici2311]

It is a sick world, and all of us on these forums are some of the sickest too.

We all sit around our expensive computers getting angry at the amount of people in the world who go hungry everyday, yet continue sitting around our computers, doing nothing about those poor people?

We all continue to live over-consuming lives whilst people go hungry in the world, with barely a house to live in and clothing on their back.

Yet we all still go to our daily lives, sitting at our computers getting angry at these poor hungry people.

We all are the sickness of this world, and yes me included.

:o

Youre absolutly right,but you and i can do something about it!Donate something (not to the big companies,they stick half of it in there own pockets)but try small indepentend donation campaigns,2 years ago i won the lotterly (not saying how much),and i gave enough away for donation.I figured i can get a plane to africa and give them money personaly but there are allot of thugs there,if you know what i mean :o

[Ratiocinator]

Firstly let me say that I have been a vegan, for a number of years, but decided that it wasn't and isn't sustainable, so I know all the 'stats' that are thrown at meat eaters, so theres no need to quote any to me.

Living in the UK, I came to realise that I cannot get the same nutrients I get from eating animal flesh without unsustainably importing foods from another country.

I agree with you that much 'more' land would become available to use for humans to plant up if we all stopped eating meat. However, I am also aware that even if that became possible, there still would not be enough land to plant up, to then feed 'all' of the humans on this planet.
You are doublethinking.

There are no nutrients we need which we cannot get from this country. You are writing as if you are trying to get a job as a poster boy for animal agriculture. Clearly you lack knowledge of nutrition if you truly believe what you just wrote.

Another point worth considering is that this is not our natural habitat so, although we can get all our nutrients from this country it is harder to do so than it would be in our natural habitat, hence the need to import. A giraffe in Siberia needs to have its species-specific foods brought to it just as we do when we are not in our natural environment, which we are not.

It is a shame that you choose to ignore the facts and figures concerning farming. Why you do this, fuck knows?

If you think that veganism is not sustainable then you know nothing about it, despite what you claim. It is the only method of living which is sustainable. A lot of people give veganism a bad name because they haven't a clue what they are doing. They are ignorant concerning nutrition and only choose veganism through love for the animals. There are plenty of junk & processed food vegans out there.

If 90 % of the land became free, though the abolition of animal agriculture, land would be needed for growing the extra plants needed to replace meat and dairy in the common diet, remembering of course that the plants grown to feed the farm animals would no longer be required. If producing for the vegan a meal of x-calories uses about 5 % the land needed to produce the calorie equivalent meal for the non-vegan, then of that 90 % free land only a tiny percentage of it would be needed for food production leaving an approximate total of 85 % which would no longer have a use in food production. This is basic mathematics.

[Ratiocinator]

A worthy charity (unusual, I know):

Vegfam

http://www.vegfamcharity.org.uk/

"Feeding The Hungry Without Exploiting Animals"

[ritchs]

~90 % of all grain grown is fed to farm animals. No one would starve in a vegan world.

Ratiocinator, is that a accurate 'estimate' 90%? If so, it would be a terrible fact for us to live with, got a link or source for that? Thanks in advance. :)

[Ratiocinator]

Ratiocinator, is that a accurate 'estimate' 90%? If so, it would be a terrible fact for us to live with, got a link or source for that? Thanks in advance. :)

It is from the book Diet for a New America. More facts with sources are to be found via the link below:

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/health/Earth/Earth.htm

[655321]

.... I love it when angie is 99 lbs. I think she's so sexy. ...

http://www.amfor.net/war/AngelinaJolie.jpg

even the rich people are starving. :eek:

[kriss_crow]

It is from the book Diet for a New America. More facts with sources are to be found via the link below:

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/health/Earth/Earth.htm

great link, thanks ;]

[always_rebel]

The satanic Rothschilds' fault. The bastards possess 55% of all the planets' riches.

The rest of the world must live on the 45% while a couple of these scum have hidden the gold and silver of this planet away in the safes of their banks.

How pathethis creatures they must be.