David and the film "The Brandon Corey Story" [Archive]

ashyr

26-06-2007, 09:40 AM

Do you think the film effects Davids credability or integrity?
i mean i pretty quickly figured out the movie wasnt legit.
and was also told to me a few times.

the thing that gets me about the film though is the use of names and places. usually you would face defamation charges or law suits based on it being false?

thirdwave

26-06-2007, 10:31 AM

I have no idea how it would effect his credibility or integrity, it was advertised as a "Hollywood movie" and David just played him self in it doing what he always does and was not made out to be acting, his books were advertised and infact I think in the end the movie makes out that his work is well worth checking out....

on the old forum of course there were all the icke bashers trying to come down on him, but they clutch at every straw they can get.

sean

26-06-2007, 10:37 AM

I personally didn't like it very much. But that was just the style of the film. David's integrity speaks for itself, and i think his apparence in the film is the highlight and most honest aspect of the film. They should have ditched all the fiction.

reptilianshapeshifter

26-06-2007, 10:50 AM

I thought the film was crap but it was obvious the only thing that wasn't acting was David's role in the film.

Either he is an incredibly talented natural actor or his part was totally genuine.

He said nothing in that film he has not said anywhere else, so in my opinion his integrity is still in tact.

ashyr

26-06-2007, 11:20 AM

I personally feel that David's work speaks for its self.

but when you are seeing a person you feel is onto something.
uncovering all these things. and watching a movie. that your aware is "HOLLYWOOD" display someone who is uncovering "HOLLYWOOD" and its fakeness. True he is being himself. Doesnt change him at all. but the way people might see it . or how maybe I am confused in thinking that.

is some way how can u trust. is there a barrier now. a level or point you can only take David so far, Like to get past the Possibility now that he could be involved in the HOLLYWOOD aspect of it all, almost like a devilish con. i say that because usually the devil tells the truth in your face,because people dont believe it. u know what i mean?

David Icke, be him the devils advocate or worse. or a being of AWE and LIGHT.

there is no difference. what he has done. is done. and will be remembered for all time. or maybe even less?

ashyr

26-06-2007, 11:25 AM

the only way i would be clear on the real meaning to david's involvement in this movie. can only be cleared up by him. is that the ploy. i need to hear from the horses mouth now.
so if David Icke posts anything on these forums anymore which i doubt. hes only made 2 posts hasnt he? could maybe PM me or reply here and let me know what the intentional idea behind teh involvement and how he feels about my questions?. anyway.

how do u explain the use of NAMES and PLACES in the movie without DEFAMATION and COURT LAW ISSUES?

ashyr

27-06-2007, 05:19 AM

*bump*

:)

ngawaka19

27-06-2007, 06:39 AM

graflok

27-06-2007, 06:48 AM

I just saw this film a few days ago. I think it may indirectly have a negative
affect on David's reputation.

On the DVD itself it says it's a documentary but the film obviously shows
actors in staged situations (except for the Icke sequence). So, it's apparent
that the film is not what it pretends to be.

I think anything about reps reflects on David Icke because he is so identified
with the subject. Plus he's in the damn film.

So, yes. I think it reflects on him, unfortunately.

BTW, for those who have not seen it, here is a statement about the issue
of the film's authenticity from the producers:
http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/4384/48/

oneofmany

27-06-2007, 07:58 AM

Wasn't the Brandon Cole story based on true events? If so there would be no grounds for defamation.

And yes, it was a trashy film, but how fabulous that david did a cameo, it would of been fun, for all involved and the outcome speaks seriously of a man who has dissappeared. Its important that those involved get to celebrate Brandons life in this form.

churI don't believe it was and who's going to sue, Brandon Corey? Where did you get the idea that it was based on factual events? If you have evidence of this, I would love to see it.

montag

27-06-2007, 08:19 AM

aznality

27-06-2007, 09:04 AM

^The tracksuit that guy was wearing wasn't turquoise though.

I have seen the "Brandon Corey Story" and I'm neutral on the poll.

montag

27-06-2007, 09:37 AM

It's close enough and he's even wearing a pink T shirt..

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6716/41531574davidicke203va3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-06-27

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5110/davidwb6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-06-27

tickles

27-06-2007, 09:43 AM

Shit, i must be the only one who liked it :D

limelady

27-06-2007, 09:46 AM

I got the impression they were taking the piss with Icke, otherwise why the turquoise track suit? Similar to the one David wore on Wogan. What gives with that? Coincidence? I doubt it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99WUVyupzik

I noticed the turquoise tracksuit also, but perhaps I'm naive because I took it as something the boys had cooked up as a show of respect for David that would ram it right up Terry Wogan! :eek:

tickles

27-06-2007, 09:51 AM

So did you like it Limelady? :)

limelady

27-06-2007, 09:56 AM

W-e-lllllll......I can't say I REALLY liked it too much. But I felt Dave came across his usual informative self. The story was just a bit weak.....reminded me of the Blair Witch movie.....just seemed to lack something essential......the ending was rather weak IMO.

Sorry tickles :p

ashyr

27-06-2007, 10:00 AM

i think like they say part of the flaw. was they didnt stop the marketing pickin or believing it was real. even though many could see it wasnt. but it gave the impression that they must think it was real also.

personally i believe that the movie was excellent. it had all the good things in there. they were asking the questions and stuff you sorta wanted to know. and in a funny way i wanted it to be real. because it would open a big can of worm holes.

anyway. the movie is great. and david was even greater. but as for the bad light i spose it comes with the territory.

what about how they accuse so many people. dick chaney, fbi for doing shit. all the people and names in the movie. shouldnt those people be going. WTF this is bullshit im a human. im going to sue you?

so what about that i want to know really.

tickles

27-06-2007, 10:00 AM

I guess i'm on my own :o

Nobody loves me, everybody hates me,
think i'll go down the garden and eat worms....:D

tickles

27-06-2007, 10:02 AM

Hang on, i have a supporter Hooraa. Good on ya ashyr ;)

Anders Lindman

27-06-2007, 11:28 AM

I guess you mean this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5801978637941865090

I will check it out now and come up with a divine (not really) verdict. :)

Anders Lindman

27-06-2007, 01:05 PM

To me, integrity means that an individual person has a sense of a whole self, a quality that can stand on it's own. True integrity in that sense, cannot be harmed, touched or degraded in any form or shape.

The video cannot harm that kind of integrity. It may or may not harm other forms of integrity, such as integrity based on social status, credibility and public opinions, but such integrity is for amateurs; and I'm sure David has matured beyond that kind of childishness by now. :D

john white

27-06-2007, 02:44 PM

So did you like it Limelady? :)

I have no problem liking it, but as a tool its not so useful: more infotainment than information

aznality

27-06-2007, 03:50 PM

I wonder if the movie was filmed with "real" reptilians. There were some characters I have noticed with cold emotionless eyes.

barnowl

27-06-2007, 05:51 PM

I just took the movie at face value. It's a Blair Witch kind of presentation ... one of those 'reality' theme scenarios, that takes "fictional" aspects shown as "fact".

I personally don't like that kind of format because it jacks your mind around and you're not sure what's supposed to be real and what isn't.

But Icke did a cameo appearance and didn't waiver from his usual presentation, so I can't see the dilema.

infinitetruth

27-06-2007, 06:07 PM

Well, my personal experience I came across the film on youtube (didn't watch it all, just one part).
And it was portrayed as a documentary. Very quickly I began to have doubts about the story and did some research. I found out that it was a fictional story there was no brandon corey- then I didn't know what to think, whether david did it willingly or he was set up.

Anyhoo I found the site and it was presented as a true story. I searched for the fine print that it was fictional - I found none.

On David site I saw it advertised as a fictional story about facts - from this it was apparent that he wasn't set up, more like he was a cameo in the film. Fair enough, only it linked to this same site implying it was true.

I don't think it does anything to Davids integrity since he has said it is a fictional story on his site.

But for people who are on the inside of the matrix, this might further alienate them from David.

Anders Lindman

27-06-2007, 06:35 PM

On David site I saw it advertised as a fictional story about facts - from this it was apparent that he wasn't set up, more like he was a cameo in the film.

It looked like the video was built around David's role in it, rather than around the other stories. Like the makers of the video had taken David Icke + the concept of shapeshifters and built a story around that.

dondaz

27-06-2007, 07:12 PM

Like the makers of the video had taken David Icke + the concept of shapeshifters and built a story around that.

About summs it up I think!

I would think many hollywood writers have considered penning a script on Mr Ickes work. But what major film company would make a high budget fiction movie based on some of Davids theories?

No-one would touch it!

But a low budget set-up and using David as himself in it, gets it made and the powers that be get another kick in the bollocks.

Well done David Icke.

peter19

27-06-2007, 07:15 PM

but if this is a fictional story/documentry why play truths in it?(like icke saying reptillians are real ect). to me, if you do a film based on fiction even if you say something is really really true, i mean REALLY, people will percive it as fiction because the film is fiction. so from that i think the film and the info in it will mostly be seen as fiction, unless people look up david icke and listen to him saying he believes it. but its unlikely if you just think "oh its only fiction".

but in anther sense it gets people used to the concepts of there behing reptillians about. so it could act to open more peoples minds up, to the possability of it maybe. like films like starwars and films with advanced technology, it opens people up, atleast to the conceps of it.

i didnt like the film though really. i didnt know if it was real or not and think that when you do that it seems abit decicive.

Anders Lindman

27-06-2007, 07:35 PM

About summs it up I think!

I would think many hollywood writers have considered penning a script on Mr Ickes work. But what major film company would make a high budget fiction movie based on some of Davids theories?

No-one would touch it!

But a low budget set-up and using David as himself in it, gets it made and the powers that be get another kick in the bollocks.

Well done David Icke.

Yes, the video could actually in some sense promote David's work.

An idea just came to my mind that there are two kinds of integrity: (1) integrity based on reputation and public opinion, and (2) integrity based on the individual himself or herself. The first kind of integrity can indeed be harmed and result in loss of money etc, so in that sense that kind of integrity is important. The second kind of integrity is the ability as an individual to remain whole regardless of what other people think or say about him or her. Full integrity, or integral integrity, would be the combination of both these kinds of integrities. A very tricky issue.

tickles

28-06-2007, 12:54 AM

I know of people that have watched the movie and gone on to reseach David Ickes work further so if thats happening then it's a good thing.

I also think they did a pretty good job making it with most probably a shitty budget and no support from the major movie studios.

ashyr

28-06-2007, 02:22 AM

if you do a film based on fiction even if you say something is really really true, i mean REALLY, people will percive it as fiction because the film is fiction my point exactly Peter19

yes i think some people missed my post. or didnt read it. i explained
i think like they say part of the flaw. was they didnt stop the marketing pickin or believing it was real. even though many could see it wasnt. but it gave the impression that they must think it was real also.

does that help, i hear what you say about real INTERGRITY being uneffected. but i'm sure thats true, but maybe im seeing it as "peoples integrity in believing him" ????