Swiss Skinheads Murder Pregnant Woman's Twins

[mynameis]

Swiss 'race' attack stuns Brazil
The belly of Brazilian Paula Oliveira after the attack in Zurich
Paula Oliveira received some 100 razor cuts on her belly

Brazil has called in the Swiss envoy to discuss an alleged skinhead attack near Zurich on a pregnant Brazilian woman that caused her to miscarry twins.

Three skinheads are reported to have attacked Paula Oliveira, aged 26, on Monday, leaving her badly scarred.

Ms Oliveira received some 100 razor cuts, and the initials of the right-wing Swiss People's Party (SVP) were also carved into her body.

Ms Oliveira's family says the assault was racially-motivated.

It says she had been speaking Portuguese outside a Zurich train station shortly before the attack.

"What they did to my daughter is like a horror movie," Ms Oliveira's father, Paulo, told Brazil's Globo TV.

The attack has caused shock in Brazil where it has been widely reported along with graphic images of the scars inflicted on Ms Oliveira, the BBC's Gary Duffy in Sao Paulo reports.

Brazil's Foreign Minister Celso Amorim has described the assault as "grave" and "shocking".

Plea for patience

The facts surrounding the attack remain unclear but police in Zurich say a man called them on Monday evening to report that a woman in a train station needed help.

The assault is said to have continued for about 10 minutes. Ms Oliveira told police that she had suffered a miscarriage shortly afterwards in a toilet near the train station.

Ms Oliveira was working as a lawyer for a big European company in Switzerland. She is said to have been living legally in the country for almost two years.

No-one has been arrested in connection with the attack. Swiss police have asked for patience while the investigation is continuing.

A lawmaker from the Swiss People's Party condemned the attack.

"If that really was someone from our party, we wouldn't hesitate for a second. That person would be immediately kicked out," Oskar Freysinger told the Associated Press news agency.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7887241.stm

[madamlasher]

that's horrific :mad:

[seercirra]

that's horrific :mad:

seriously.
wtf.
where is humanity?

[comawhite015]

Angry! That's HORRIBLE!

[pinkgeranium]

Those cuts are very straight........Too straight.

If this is true.......

They would have had to hold her down by force and she would have been
thrashing and screaming.

She miscarried into the toilet......... How many weeks pregnant was she,Did they retrieve the fetuses?


She is Brazilian................

Catholic..................?

Abortion is not allowed..............?

If you wanted to end a pregnacy, but could not admit to having an abortion.......?


I might be barking up the wrong tree here.................. something does not
sit right about this story.

[comawhite015]

^^ Christ, a woman gets attacked, and you are suggesting that she mutilated herself in order to fake a miscarriage?

[pinkgeranium]

^^ Christ, a woman gets attacked, and you are suggesting that she mutilated herself in order to fake a miscarriage?


Yes

[comawhite015]

^^ Well I'm just going to let that fucking idiocy speak for itself.

[pinkgeranium]

^^ Well I'm just going to let that fucking idiocy speak for itself.

Idiocy............. That would be taking a limited BBC artical at face value :)

I have no idea what happened to this young woman, But the picture does not look like an attack by 3 men...................Self harm, yes


Well Im sure the truth will out, eventually



Is the "S" for SVP round the wrong way?

[seercirra]

Idiocy............. That would be taking a limited BBC artical at face value :)

I have no idea what happened to this young woman, But the picture does not look like an attack by 3 men...................Self harm, yes


Well Im sure the truth will out, eventually



Is the "S" for SVP round the wrong way?

i considered your view but it just doesnt stand up to scrutiny.
razor marks on the belly will not cause a miscarriage of babies.
atleast, not if the person is doing it to themselves. because there is not the stress involved if it was done by strangers.

its the stress which caused the miscarriage. the razor marks couldnt have harmed the actual babies. looking at the pictures they really arent deep enough. those marks will perhaps scar lightly. but i'd guess they only cut through a few layers of skin. not through to the womb

and so why would a lady cut herself lightly with a razor in order to purposfully miscarriage babies? she wouldnt.
its not a good way of doing it for a start.

if she really wanted to miscarriage then she'd have puched herself in the stomach a few times. not cut herself - which is innefective to the babies without the STRESS, of other people doing it to her.

[madamlasher]

Yes


please stop smoking crack, it's damaging your mind

[pinkgeranium]

i considered your view but it just doesnt stand up to scrutiny.
razor marks on the belly will not cause a miscarriage of babies.
atleast, not if the person is doing it to themselves. because their is not the stress involved if it was done by strangers.

its the stress which caused the miscarriage. the razor marks couldnt have harmed the actual babies.

and so why would a lady cut herself lightly with a razor in order to purposfully miscarriage babies? she wouldnt.
its not a good way of doing it for a start.

if she really wanted to miscarriage then she'd have puched herself in the stomach a few times. not cut herself - which is innefective to the babies without the STRESS, of other people doing it to her.

I did'nt say the razor marks would cause a miscarriage.

Mayby she cut herself to make it look as if she had been attacked.


Lke I said The "S" is round the wrong way..............?

[pinkgeranium]

please stop smoking crack, it's damaging your mind


LOL.................A Cup of tea is as daring as I get :D

[seercirra]

I did'nt say the razor marks would cause a miscarriage.

Mayby she cut herself to make it look as if she had been attacked.


Lke I said The "S" is round the wrong way..............?

to be honest i can see VP but i cant see the S, its not clear enough. are we looking at the same picture?

yes, it looks like self harm.
but thats not to say that it IS self harm.
theres no way those cuts would hurt the babies.

"maybe she cut herself to make it look as if she had been attacked"
perhaps.
but it just isnt logical.
thousands of women miscarriage everyday. if she didnt want the babies, and so punched herself in the stomach to get rid of them, why then go and cut yourself? you dont need a reason to have a miscarriage, thousands of ladies miscarriage everyday. she couldve just behaved sad and everyone wouldve pitied her.

[pinkgeranium]

to be honest i can see VP but i cant see the S, its not clear enough. are we looking at the same picture?

yes, it looks like self harm.
but thats not to say that it IS self harm.
theres no way those cuts would hurt the babies.

"maybe she cut herself to make it look as if she had been attacked"
perhaps.
but it just isnt logical.
thousands of women miscarriage everyday. if she didnt want the babies, and so punched herself in the stomach to get rid of them, why then go and cut yourself? you dont need a reason to have a miscarriage, thousands of ladies miscarriage everyday. she couldve just behaved sad and everyone wouldve pitied her.

I have no idea what has happened to this women.

All I can say is it does not sit right with me.

Im looking at the "SVP" on her left side, S is round the wrong way.

The "S" at the top, on her right is wrong as well....?

[comawhite015]

^^ Maybe they're trying to be leet. It happens with graffiti.

Why does *everything* have to be a conspiracy?

[pinkgeranium]

^^ Maybe they're trying to be leet. It happens with graffiti.

Why does *everything* have to be a conspiracy?


Maybe she got attacked by "Skinheads" who could not spell....... who knows.


Maybe she is a barking mad, attention seeker............... Who knows

[mynameis]

Perhaps these are what they are referring too?

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Brazil+demands+probe+alleged+racist+attack+Switzer land/1283022/story.html

[pinkgeranium]

Perhaps these are what they are referring too?

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Brazil+demands+probe+alleged+racist+attack+Switzer land/1283022/story.html


umm....................They are horrific.

Never the less.... My my intuition is saying loud and clear................Something is not right with this story.

[ritchs]

Idiocy............. That would be taking a limited BBC artical at face value :)

I have no idea what happened to this young woman, But the picture does not look like an attack by 3 men...................Self harm, yes


Well Im sure the truth will out, eventually



Is the "S" for SVP round the wrong way?

No, its right to want to know more. There is another thread about a fellow that (59 yrs old) that was asked for proof of age to buy cigarettes. Some of these stories indeed, do not set well. I have seen instances of things just not panning out as stated. You have to question everything.

[tyler]

seriously.
wtf.
where is humanity?

Humanity is flying over Gaza dropping bombs and killing 450 children.

Oh, you've never heard of Gaza?

[peachped]

Your intuition may be sound pinkgeranium.



Swiss police: Woman may have faked skinhead attack
By BRADLEY S. KLAPPER and ERNST E. ABEGG
Associated Press Writers

ZURICH — The Brazilian woman who claimed to lose her unborn twins in a skinhead attack was not pregnant and probably carved the initials of Switzerland's main right-wing party into her own skin, investigators said Friday.

Police said in a statement that 26-year-old Paula Oliveira was not three months pregnant Monday, when she claimed that an attack by three skinheads, one with a Nazi symbol tattooed on the back of his head, caused her to miscarry twins.
(enlarge photo)
Philipp Hotzenkoecherle, left, Commander of Zurich's City Police, and Zurich University forensic medicine chief Walter Baer, right, talk at a press conference about the case of a 26-year-old Paula Oliviera from Brazil, who claimed having lost her unborn twins after she was attacked and wounded by nazi skinheads at a train station in Stettbach near Duebendorf, in Zurich, Switzerland, on Friday Feb. 13, 2009. Investigators and experts of Zurich University's forensic medicine institute say the woman who claimed to have lost her unborn twins in a Swiss skinhead attack was not pregnant and probably cut wounds into herself. (AP Photo/Keystone, Steffen Schmidt)

Zurich University forensic medicine chief Walter Baer said "any experienced forensic doctor would not hesitate to assume that this was a case of self-infliction."

All of the wounds were reachable by hand and none were severe, he said. Areas particularly sensitive for women — the breasts, navel and outer genitals — were not injured, he said.

He added, however, that an investigation was still ongoing.

Police said Oliveira claimed she was attacked outside a Zurich train station, and that the assailants cut the initials of Switzerland's main right-wing party into her stomach and legs.

Pictures of her scarred body appeared in newspapers and Brazil's Foreign Ministry had raised the possibility that she was the victim of an anti-foreigner attack. The ministry had no immediate reaction to the police report Friday.

The purported attack had shocked the Swiss public and outraged Brazilians, whose president condemned it.

"Brazil is an example of how to live with foreigners," President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said. "I think we can't accept and we can't stay quiet facing this remarkable violence against a Brazilian woman abroad."

Even before the independent gynecological and forensic conclusions were released, some Swiss newspapers and politicians had suggested the woman's story might have been made up, like some other alleged attacks.

Last year, an 18-year-old woman in Germany was convicted of faking a neo-Nazi attack by carving a swastika into her skin. In 2004, a young French woman admitted to lying about having been robbed on a train by a knife-wielding gang that mistook her for a Jew and scrawled swastikas on her body — but only after the alleged attack was condemned by then-President Jacques Chirac.

And in October, a volunteer for John McCain's presidential campaign agreed to enter a probation program for falsely reporting that a Barack Obama supporter robbed and assaulted her and scratched a "B" on her cheek.

The woman's father has blamed Swiss police for dragging their feet on a potentially embarrassing investigation and criticized those who suggested his daughter had lied.

"They're trying to transform the victim into a criminal. This is the tactic of a Nazi militia," Paulo Oliveira told the O Estado de Sao Paulo newspaper.

Oliveira's fiance, investment consultant Marco Trepp, claimed she was still terrified by the attack, which he said occurred only days after she accepted his marriage proposal.

"She's in a post-traumatic phase, scared of everything, especially to walk on the street," Trepp told the Folha de Sao Paulo newspaper. "Last night, she had lots of nightmares. She couldn't sleep well. She woke up sweating, screaming."

Photographs of the smiling woman have been splashed across newspapers next to those of a bare stomach and legs with the initials SVP — presumably for "Schweizerische Volkspartei" (Swiss People's Party).

The Swiss People's Party has taken a hardline stance against immigrants and pressed to toughen asylum laws and make it easier to expel foreign nationals. However, the party is part of Switzerland's broad coalition government and has never had links to neo-Nazism.

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http://www.ajc.com/wednesday/content/shared-gen/ap/Europe/EU_Switzerland_Foreigner_Attacked.html?cxntlid=inf orm_sr

[madamlasher]

LOL.................A Cup of tea is as daring as I get :D

omg....................your fucked up prediction is possibly right

that is possibly more fucked up and incredibly sad :(

[rhydra]

I was a bit suspicious when I first saw it, however, the initial story will have been seen all over the globe, the follow up may not.

[hitithard]

I wasn't expecting that last article.

pinkgeranium, I was initially shocked when you said what you said. But obviously your not the only one looking into the possibilities

Good job.

[pinkgeranium]

I was a bit suspicious when I first saw it, however, the initial story will have been seen all over the globe, the follow up may not.


Yes, sadly you are right.

[comawhite015]

Well bloody hell.

And here was me getting all fired up. Probably cuz I'm Brazilian.

I wonder what actually happened.

[godspeed]

if you have ever seen self-harmers they have nice straight lines....the marks were too perfect for an attack....but she might just be another fucked up lawyer who knows were the big claims are...very strange and distubia....:confused:

[kanz]

Those cuts are very straight........Too straight.

If this is true.......

They would have had to hold her down by force and she would have been
thrashing and screaming.

She miscarried into the toilet......... How many weeks pregnant was she,Did they retrieve the fetuses?


She is Brazilian................

Catholic..................?

Abortion is not allowed..............?

If you wanted to end a pregnacy, but could not admit to having an abortion.......?


I might be barking up the wrong tree here.................. something does not
sit right about this story.

100% behind you on that one , theres no way on earth one man could hold you down to cause that damage, unless she just lay there and took it i just don't see how that this story is true.

[eternal_spirit]

100% behind you on that one , theres no way on earth one man could hold you down to cause that damage, unless she just lay there and took it i just don't see how that this story is true.
Well that's mynameis Ruben or Judas's wet dream over, he had such high hopes when he started this thread.

[rhydra]

Obviously the woman has some sort of problem that needs addressing, she's probably not well so maybe this might be an opportunity for whatever problems she might have to be addressed and she can make a full recovery, hopefully.