' Worst economic collapse ever'

[mynameis]

Russia Today:
'Worst economic collapse ever' - YouTube

[ownedtbh]

this economy stuff is really boring now.

DOOM DOOM DOOM FEAR FEAR FEAR.

yet (for me) life is as normal as always.

[omnit]

yeah I agree, no change here at all at the moment!

I think the middle class will be affected the most though, I'm poor already and I like it lol!

[dlb2007]

That is one kick ass film, there!

Very quick, very easy to understand, very basic.... but also very truthful.

still most people are unaware of the catastrophy waiting to happen. people think its not going to happen because it "happened" in october etc... that was only the nuclear bomb, the fall out has yet to occur.

if you look at how the economic system works there is always two main times of the year, October/Novermber time and the start of the new financial year in April.

[mynameis]

Why did you move the news report?

[lightgiver]

I hope it collapses,i am bored to death hearing about false economics,i have been in a recession all my life and so have most working class people,

you see if the economy collapses the elites have no one to use and sponge off,

get in the veg patch Gordon with your masters and lackeys :D:D

I would love to see the Rockefeller's and chums getting their hands dirty,the only dirt they have on their hands is BLOOD of the children and the oppressed.

screw the lot of em.;)

[grenadene]

I hope it collapses,i am bored to death hearing about false economics,i have been in a recession all my life and so have most working class people,

you see if the economy collapses the elites have no one to use and sponge off,

get in the veg patch Gordon with your masters and lackeys :D:D

I would love to see the Rockefeller's and chums getting their hands dirty,the only dirt they have on their hands is BLOOD of the children and the oppressed.

screw the lot of em.;)

Abso-fucking-lutely :D

[lightgiver]

Abso-fucking-lutely :D

Ab so effing lutely :D:D

It is getting boring though isn't it :D and the MSM news.

I was telling friends this years ago how false it all is,this is what happens when psychopaths run the show ;):D

look after each other we do not need corrupt politicians and bankers,this world would be better off without them and as soon as people all over the world realise this the better off we will all be.:)

[lightgiver]

this economy stuff is really boring now.

DOOM DOOM DOOM FEAR FEAR FEAR.

yet (for me) life is as normal as always.

Here here :D

[killuminati18]

I hope it collapses,i am bored to death hearing about false economics,i have been in a recession all my life and so have most working class people,

you see if the economy collapses the elites have no one to use and sponge off,

get in the veg patch Gordon with your masters and lackeys :D:D

I would love to see the Rockefeller's and chums getting their hands dirty,the only dirt they have on their hands is BLOOD of the children and the oppressed.

screw the lot of em.;)


your right man

[scatlond]

I hope it collapses,i am bored to death hearing about false economics,i have been in a recession all my life and so have most working class people,

you see if the economy collapses the elites have no one to use and sponge off,

get in the veg patch Gordon with your masters and lackeys :D:D

I would love to see the Rockefeller's and chums getting their hands dirty,the only dirt they have on their hands is BLOOD of the children and the oppressed.

screw the lot of em.;)


Well said LG.

[icke_is_right]

I hope it collapses,i am bored to death hearing about false economics,i have been in a recession all my life and so have most working class people,

you see if the economy collapses the elites have no one to use and sponge off,

get in the veg patch Gordon with your masters and lackeys :D:D

I would love to see the Rockefeller's and chums getting their hands dirty,the only dirt they have on their hands is BLOOD of the children and the oppressed.

screw the lot of em.;)

And your recession is about to get far worse. It would actually help if wealth were transferred to more people with a better mentality but with this very childish mindset, I only see the elite getting their hands less dirty whilst people like you suffer more.

The economy collapsing means far more sponging off people like you by the elite. You show with your statement that you are absolutely not going to do anything about the financial side of it which is one of the most important aspects.

My wealth is increasing daily, unfortunately, the more people who don't want to understand the economy and money, the less chance we all have. How boring! How the hell do people expect to help each other if they have no financial means?

[bluehorseman]

I agree with your sentiments lightgiver but I also think that globally it isn't a crash in so much as a correction - the true value of "things" are being realised. I also think that this value in a way was manipulated all along too, over inflated by the greedy and now it has been pulled back to its real worth and what is happening is the few greedy sheep that were sucked into the hype have been left holding the baby, and its an ugly baby. They have lost and some are making a bit of a noise about it.
The USA seems to be the most in the shit from our perspective in NZ and this is another point of contention. It seems fair to say that our bros and sis in good ol US have a tendency to get a bit ethnocentric at times. They have the "world series" in heaps of their sports competitions that only include teams from America and to me this crash is sort of like an extention of that mindset, America's crashing so from their perspective the world is and this is not a fact. Most currencies around the world seem fairly stable, trading is still happening, bail out plans have been submitted and agreed to - the main problem that I see is the huge growth the rich have expected is not occuring anymore; they can't see where their companies are going to be "going forward" and this uncertainty is making them worried. So when they have board meetings I imagine they are reporting to their shareholders the worst case scenario based off the past years financial returns, sales/demand going down last quarter extrapolated over the next three quarters makes things look like shit soup and this is information reported to the media and hence we all think the sky is going to fall on our heads.

Its not that bad.

Some of the rich are going to have to take a hit: but I bet you the majority will be still alot richer than this chippy from the South Island; and like I've said on 2 of my other 5 posts if any of you are feeling worried and wondering if there is a better place for yourselves and your families than where you are I can only suggest here - Southern New Zealand - the "crash" wont affect us much at all, it hasn't so far.

[pacoquerak]

I am filling out an order for 200 dollars worth of heirloom vegetables, and cover crops, 70 varieties, something like 45 or 55 different species. Gonna order and raise Auraucana for their rich gene stock and also the red jungle fowl, for it's ancient wild genes. Pearl Guinea fowl as well as Runner ducks and weeder geese, hell even some ol muskovy ducks. I am gonna adopt a dog to look after em and some cats to handle rats and weasels. And I got to find some goats lol

[tyler]

this economy stuff is really boring now.

DOOM DOOM DOOM FEAR FEAR FEAR.

yet (for me) life is as normal as always.

That picture of you says it all!! Life just goes on for me as normal. Normal? Stuck in front of the telly looking bored watching Coronation Street!!!!

You, my friend, are the people we are trying to reach!

[anthony65]

I am filling out an order for 200 dollars worth of heirloom vegetables, and cover crops, 70 varieties, something like 45 or 55 different species. Gonna order and raise Auraucana for their rich gene stock and also the red jungle fowl, for it's ancient wild genes. Pearl Guinea fowl as well as Runner ducks and weeder geese, hell even some ol muskovy ducks. I am gonna adopt a dog to look after em and some cats to handle rats and weasels. And I got to find some goats lol

Are you serious?

If you are, it sounds great!

How much land do you have?

[gilly]

this economy stuff is really boring now.

DOOM DOOM DOOM FEAR FEAR FEAR.

yet (for me) life is as normal as always.

What is normal life for you?

If you work, it won't be life as normal any more if you're laid off.

If you're on benefits, it wont be life as normal any more when the state stops paying benefits, which is on the cards.

Take a look at the 1000's of people in the USA who are living in their cars because they've had their mortgages forclosed on, or been evicted when they could no longer pay the rent. Google it.

It isn't life as normal for those families, is it.

I don't want to burst your bubble, but you I feel you should take heed.

[bluehorseman]

I am filling out an order for 200 dollars worth of heirloom vegetables, and cover crops, 70 varieties, something like 45 or 55 different species. Gonna order and raise Auraucana for their rich gene stock and also the red jungle fowl, for it's ancient wild genes. Pearl Guinea fowl as well as Runner ducks and weeder geese, hell even some ol muskovy ducks. I am gonna adopt a dog to look after em and some cats to handle rats and weasels. And I got to find some goats lol

Get yourself some opium poppies too in case you need pain killing for things like broken limbs or cancer etc. I 've got a jack russel terrier and he's a good mouser - don't need the cats with him around and he flushes out rabbits and pheasants too and he has already paid for himself with sireing fees. Get yourself some fruit trees too oh and bees, that way your kids can have something sweet when theres no sugar left in the shops. Goats are a very good idea, their milk is special if you have kids with scabbies put them in a bath of that and after a few times scabbies gone.

[gilly]

I am filling out an order for 200 dollars worth of heirloom vegetables, and cover crops, 70 varieties, something like 45 or 55 different species. Gonna order and raise Auraucana for their rich gene stock and also the red jungle fowl, for it's ancient wild genes. Pearl Guinea fowl as well as Runner ducks and weeder geese, hell even some ol muskovy ducks. I am gonna adopt a dog to look after em and some cats to handle rats and weasels. And I got to find some goats lol


Here are some bastards trying to ban herbs!

It's f******g Codex Alimentarius tactics)!!!!

This one's a double whammy, because not only do the said herbs have many uses in medicine, but this particular selection are currently used as natural pesticides in organic farming...


http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2009/02/12/national/national_30095524.php

[endlessvista]

Financial institutions make laugh - there is an ad for the Hiberninan on Irish TV which just came out which has all this fake moralising about how we are all going to have to learn to be ourselves again *emotional mood music*.

It shows a young girl wasting her credit card on stupid designer shoes and the voice says "from what we thought was important..." and in the next scene they show a perfect Irish middle class poster family walking through the green land o' Eire with the voiceover changing to "to what we knowwwwwwwwwww is important..."

I nearly burst my shite laughing. It had Problem-Reaction-Solution all over it. They have no shame they destroy people and then rub it in their faces.

David Icke is so right about most things it isn't funny. The man is a genius.

[white knight]

My wealth is increasing daily, unfortunately, the more people who don't want to understand the economy and money, the less chance we all have.

It's great that you're doing well mate, don't let your wealth stop you from being a good person okay? ;)

How boring! How the hell do people expect to help each other if they have no financial means?

You don't need money to help people, this will become apparent very soon. It's time for people to show their true colours, do you value life or do you value money?...

[synergy777]

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=10179

'Worst economic collapse ever'

Russia Today Transcript – February 11, 2009

Gerald Celente

Scroll down for an actual video of the following interview.

www.russiatoday.com/guests/detail/2114


In 2009 we’re going to see the worst economic collapse ever, the ‘Greatest Depression’, says Gerald Celente, U.S. trend forecaster. He believes it’s going to be very violent in the U.S., including there being a tax revolt.

RT: The fragile U.S. economy has been met with bank bailouts and stimulus plans. So what’s to come in 2009? Joining me now to answer that question is Gerald Celente, founder and director of the Trends Research Institute. Thank you for joining me.

Gerald Celente: My pleasure.

RT: How would you define the economic trend that you have forecasted for 2009?

G.C.: We’re going to see the economic collapse the likes of which the world has never seen before. It’s not only in the United States; it’s going global. At the end of 2008 we saw Christmas retail sales: women’s apparel down 23%; home furnishings and electronics off 27%; luxury items down 35%. These are Depression Era collapses. We saw major bankruptcies, such as retailers Circuit City and Linens and Things. One bankruptcy after another. Then we saw store closings. Starbucks, Home D&D Power and down the line.

The question becomes who is going to take all of the vacant retail space? Who is going to rent it? The answer is - nobody. Now we look at the financial collapse in 2008, we saw the Merrill Lynch mob go under the bed and the Lehman boys went bankrupt. You saw bond companies, brokerage firms, and banks go belly up. Who is going to rent all the vacant commercial business space that they used to occupy? The answer is - nobody. The commercial real estate collapse that’s going to happen in 2009 is going to dwarf the residential real estate collapse.

RT: You use the Great Depression as an analogy, as a comparison. During the Great Depression unemployment was 25%. Now it has increased, it’s I think over 7.2. Is that number going to get much, much bigger?

G.C.: We have to look at the real number. There are two sets of books that the government keeps. When they measure up unemployment they don’t add in the people who are no longer looking for jobs because they have become discouraged since they cannot find employment after looking so long. And they don’t include part-time workers. When you put that number into it, the number is 13.7%. And that’s a government number. And this is just beginning. And again, current events form future trends.

What did we see? We saw in one day some 61,000 jobs evaporate off the map. You’re going to see Great Depression numbers. Because, as I mentioned, with this commercial real estate collapse, all of these retail stores closing, like Starbucks and Macy’s, you go down the line. You look not only at people who work for these places that no longer have jobs, but how about all the supportive industries - the advertising, the manufacturers, the products. They’re going to be laying off people as well. We’re going to see Great Depression numbers. In that effect, this is going to be worse than the Great Depression.

RT: What are we going to see happening to the society, to people’s day-to-day lives in terms of how they treat one another, how they behave, crime?

G.C.: When I say it’s going to be worse than the Great Depression, we call it the Greatest Depression. By the way, to be using 1930s models to get the U.S. out of this is really stupid. Back then when we first crashed most people didn’t have homes. There was no such thing as home equity loan. And back then, people didn’t have credit cards. The consumer wasn’t 14 trillion dollars in debt. We had a manufacturing base that built the world out of the Great Depression following World War Two. We no longer have that.

Now people are at the edge. They’re stressed out. Look, the Americans are the most depressed nation on the world already. They take more antidepressant drugs than anybody, plus the other kinds of drugs that they are taking. You’re going to see crime levels in America that are going to rival the third world. Welcome Mexico City. You’re going to start seeing people being kidnapped in this country like they do in other underdeveloped nations. So it’s going to be very violent in America.

RT: You’re not exaggerating?

G.C.: I’m not exaggerating, the facts are there. I have a saying: when people lose everything and they have nothing to lose, they lose it. You’re going to see people saying, off with their heads. There’s going to be another revolution in this country.

RT: When will this revolution that you have forecasted in your Trends journal happen and what will ignite it?

G.C.: It’s going to be a tax revolt. We’re going to start seeing a tax revolt in the United States. People are one job away from losing everything. We’re seeing more and more closures, people are being laid off. People are stretched to the limits. And what do they do in New York State? Some130 new taxes are being proposed, they’re raising sales taxes. There’s going to be a tax revolt in this country from property taxes first and school taxes second. That’s what we’re going to see start to happen.

RT: Do you feel people are not hopeful that Obama will make a difference?

G.C.: People are hopeful, they are desperate and they are fearful. And they’ll hang on to anything. Let’s look at the facts. A man of change, who did he bring into Washington? You know they say by their deeds you shall know them. Let’s look at his Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner, former Robert Rubin from the Clinton administration, the former president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank. Change? How about Larry Summers, the former Clinton Secretary of Treasury? I mean, I’ve been around a long time. I never remember a newly elected president bringing in basically the national security team from the last administration who happen to be from another party.

RT: Do you not think Obama’s different in any way?

G.C.: By their deeds you shall know them! If I bring in a baseball hitter that strikes out every time and I want him to play in the World Series is he going to hit the ball over the fence? They brought in Larry Summers, Timothy Geithner. Look at the crew. Look who they are. They’re strike out artists, every one of them. The only thing that they know how to do is not to get their finger nails dirty.

RT: There was a sentence in your report, the Trends Journal, that really caught my attention. You wrote: ‘On 9/11, those who listened to the authorities and returned to their offices went down with the towers.’ So are you saying that Americans should not be listening to the officials who are saying the Stimulus Plans are going to make everything better? Is that the analogy?

G.C.: Read my lips. No new taxes. I didn’t have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinski. I smoked but I didn’t inhale. Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction and ties to Al-Qaeda. Why would anybody believe these people?

RT: So what are Americans supposed to do if they’re not supposed to trust their leaders?

G.C.: Personally, I buy gold. And I’ve been talking about gold since the Trends Journal 2001. We peg the bottom and we said it would start going up at 275. Number two, you don’t spend a dime you don’t need to spend.

RT: What would be the good jobs to benefit from in this year?

G.C.: Anything having to do with health. Anything. It’s going to be a growth industry. And fortunately a lot of them are going to pay a lot of money in that field because a lot of that is going to be care for the elderly. And the other thing really is anything having to do with conservation engineers, anything that’s going to prove technologically sound and smart to save money and to make money.

RT: What about geopolitics, what trends are we going to see in terms of the relationships between the United States and the rest of the world?

G.C.: Well the rest of the world is very hopeful, using the word ‘hope’, with the Obama administration. And again, we’re going to have to see what transpires, but so far, and again, by their deeds you shall know them.

Obama, when he first started to run, he was going to be out of Iraq. As soon as he became president he was going to start bringing soldiers home. Now they won’t be out for 16 months and now their reports say they’re going to bring upwards of 40,000 more troops to Afghanistan. He was also talking about preventive strikes in Pakistan. So it really doesn’t look like it’s going to be much of a smoothing of geopolitical relations.

The one factor we’re looking at, at a time that could only be the worst time for it to happen, is what’s going on in the Middle East, in the Israel-Gaza war. Israel, as they said, they were trying to do as the reports have come out, if they attack Iran at any level, it will begin World War Three. Because if this war spreads beyond Gaza, it’s going to inflame the Middle East. It can cause an oil crisis as we saw in 1973, that’s what ended the Arab-Israeli war when they embargoed oil going into the U.S. That’s our major concern. We’re also seeing, and we’re going to wonder, if Obama continues with putting the so-called missile defense shield in Poland and in Czech Republic in Eastern Europe and if they keep pushing more and more into Georgia. If that keeps happening we’re going to see a re-ignition of the Cold War.

RT: You have been trend casting since 1980, more than two decades. How do you compile your information and why do you believe you’ve been so spot-on most of the time?

G.C.: Current events form future trends. You can see what’s going on. A great scholar said, “In today already walks tomorrow.” So we say current events form future trends. But when people look at the trends, they colour them or shade them with their own ideology, their own beliefs. It’s what they want, what they hope for, what they wish for.

I’m a political atheist. I look at things for the way they are, not the way I want them to be. I don’t colour them or try to change them because of an ideology. The other major factor that we do differently at Trends Research Institute than anywhere else is we look at over 300 different categories on a global basis. So we’re looking at economics, we’re looking at politics, we’re looking at changes in the family, we’re looking at geopolitics. We’re making connections between different fields continually.

RT: How can America get out of the situation?

G.C.: All you have to do is to look back to the 1990s when America entered into a recession. We had 7.2 unemployment rate in 1993. What got the U.S. out of the 1990s recession was something called the ‘internet revolution’ that had a productive capacity. Products were invented, designed, manufactured, marketed and serviced. So you’re asking about new jobs, ask about alternative energies. Anything that’s going to advance the U.S. into the 21st century in an intelligent way. That’s where the job opportunities are going to be.

RT: Gerald Celente, founder of the Trends Research Institute, thank you very much for taking time to speak with us.

G.C.: My pleasure.

[icke_is_right]

It's great that you're doing well mate, don't let your wealth stop you from being a good person okay? ;)



You don't need money to help people, this will become apparent very soon. It's time for people to show their true colours, do you value life or do you value money?...

Please tell me exactly what will become apparent very soon? So, if you don't have a penny now this means that you will have to spend most of your time just surviving, so whilst in survival mode when will you be able to spare time to help others?

David Icke was raising money for a legal case recently, yes, asking for donations. Do you believe in prayer for such legal cases?

I'm beginning to realise that the majority here really don't get why the elitists went to such trouble to control gold and silver prices and never will.

[dankai]

"Ye shall know them by their fruits"

[ubiquitous]

Gerald Celente to be a guest on RENSE tonight. Should be interesting.

[pacoquerak]

it's in indiana, it's 70 acres. There are bees in the house, my friend is going to come up and help me build some homes for them and get them out of the house and making us honey!
I am planting a lot of herbs, perhaps I will buy even more herbs later in the year, I don't even want to think about all the different kinds though, planting 65 or 70 things is going to be a lot!

I will try to buy next years seed ahead of november, to beat codex to the punch.
The funny thing is codex could make me very rich!

Almost all the seed I am buying is either new extremely desirable open pollinated breeds or at least 50 years old.
I am planning on saving much more seed than I buy this year, I bet by the end of the year, I will have turned 200 dollars worth of seed into 10k worth of seed!
okay that's hopeful... but I think it's going to be highly successful!

[gilly]

it's in indiana, it's 70 acres. There are bees in the house, my friend is going to come up and help me build some homes for them and get them out of the house and making us honey!
I am planting a lot of herbs, perhaps I will buy even more herbs later in the year, I don't even want to think about all the different kinds though, planting 65 or 70 things is going to be a lot!

I will try to buy next years seed ahead of november, to beat codex to the punch.
The funny thing is codex could make me very rich!

Almost all the seed I am buying is either new extremely desirable open pollinated breeds or at least 50 years old.
I am planning on saving much more seed than I buy this year, I bet by the end of the year, I will have turned 200 dollars worth of seed into 10k worth of seed!
okay that's hopeful... but I think it's going to be highly successful!
I hope everything works out really well for you.

[lightgiver]

And your recession is about to get far worse. It would actually help if wealth were transferred to more people with a better mentality but with this very childish mindset, I only see the elite getting their hands less dirty whilst people like you suffer more.

The economy collapsing means far more sponging off people like you by the elite. You show with your statement that you are absolutely not going to do anything about the financial side of it which is one of the most important aspects.

My wealth is increasing daily, unfortunately, the more people who don't want to understand the economy and money, the less chance we all have. How boring! How the hell do people expect to help each other if they have no financial means?

They will not be sponging off me,you do not know me or my life style.

Plenty land and farmers where i live,and men and women with balls of steel who will not be dumped on by anyone.:D

Its the city's and towns that will be in trouble,

Big city energy consumes a lot.

[icke_is_right]

They will not be sponging off me,you do not know me or my life style.

Plenty land and farmers where i live,and men and women with balls of steel who will not be dumped on by anyone.:D

Its the city's and towns that will be in trouble,

Big city energy consumes a lot.

I'd still be interested in the 'not needing money part' if you can answer that question, thanks.

[icke_is_right]

it's in indiana, it's 70 acres. There are bees in the house, my friend is going to come up and help me build some homes for them and get them out of the house and making us honey!
I am planting a lot of herbs, perhaps I will buy even more herbs later in the year, I don't even want to think about all the different kinds though, planting 65 or 70 things is going to be a lot!

I will try to buy next years seed ahead of november, to beat codex to the punch.
The funny thing is codex could make me very rich!

Almost all the seed I am buying is either new extremely desirable open pollinated breeds or at least 50 years old.
I am planning on saving much more seed than I buy this year, I bet by the end of the year, I will have turned 200 dollars worth of seed into 10k worth of seed!
okay that's hopeful... but I think it's going to be highly successful!

That sounds good, though I wouldn't be in it for the profit, more, it's the right thing to do. You should start a thread on your activities and how they turn out.