The need for protection

[thomascovenant]

Hello everyone.I`ve got a whole bunch of freaky shit going on in my life right now.Shit which I`m not quite ready to talk about yet.I will share one small part for now as this is the area where I require assistance.I have recently become VERY sensitive to vibrational changes, I feel different "vibes" on different parts of my body.I`m not certain what it all means yet, but understanding is on its way or so it seems.Its like I`m missing the codec or something.(if that makes sense).Anyway my request is for information regarding psychic protection, which I feel has become necessary in my life.Again, i will not go into detail right now but a couple of people who know of my experiences have suggested that I need some kind of protection.I will feel a lot less alone if I get it.Thanks.

[deca]

I would check the Symptoms page here
http://www.mindcontrol-victims.eu/

[thomascovenant]

Thanks Deca, interesting (to put it mildly) stuff.But I don`t think this is it.Have I posted this in the right forum? Can you suggest any other threads that may be more relevant.It fits them all and it fits none of them, if you know what I mean.

[lookfar]

Hi thomascovenant & welcome to the forum :)

Sorry to hear you're in need of psychic protection & wish you well with it all.

I recall there being a thread on here with some links a while back, but can't recall which one (sorry I would look, but am a bit tired as it's 2.15am). Might be worth a search on here though & I'm assuming you've googled about for some info too...

[james777]

Jesus Christ can give you all the protection you need.

[earthseed]

Tell that to someone who just got raped. Geeze are you for real? Why do religious people come to forums like this....need to convert people?

[mart]

Hi Thomascovenant. It's going to be a bit difficult to help you without more detail. I came to this forum about a month or so ago asking for help regarding "attacks" that I was experiencing. In my case it is to do with mind control programming which i managed to find out about after having emailed Stewart Swerdlow a few times. All i did was write about some of the experiences that i was having and his answers always confirmed my intuition so i knew i was on the right track. The link that deca posted relates very much to what i am experiencing but you say it's not the case with you. All i can suggest is that perhaps if you email Stewart Swerdlow at his Questions & Answers page he might be able to give you some insight into what you are experiencing. I don't think it can hurt. I've yet to try his techniques (and i will) but the confidence and peace of mind i've gained from understanding what's happening to me has been so empowering. http://www.expansions.com/QA_Comments.cfm
Just click on "Question Contact form" at the top
Good luck.

[deca]

Hi mart,
I am TI(target Individual) of remote mind control & electronic harassment
heres some treads I have done.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=617

https://prisonplanet.tv/forum/index.php?topic=187.0
I am also on here which is a forum for TI`s
http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/index.php

The perpetrators of remote mind control & electronic harassment attack you in many different ways camouflaging there presence.
I think they want to remotely manipulate peoples mind and body without there knowledge.
I am glad you have found help with Stewart Swerdlow.
I have watch a bit of his videos and going to watch so more soon.

Once I was aware that something was happening,I was feeling strange and suggestible thats when the mind games and harassment started.I believed that witches were casting spells on me,I nearly got into fight with the local Indian take out I believed they were using some sort of Telepathy against me.
The perpetrators backed it up with sound effects and sensations to my body.I did not get into to much trouble and know I have figured it out,
I just have to prove it.

[mart]

Hey Deca,
Good to hear from another TI. Just read your thread but i haven't had time to check out the links yet. I'll get back to you when i have as i'm sure i'll have something to say.

[mada88]

protection from what?

[smariot]

Tell that to someone who just got raped. Geeze are you for real? Why do religious people come to forums like this....need to convert people?

He's trying to save us all from an eternity of hardship. We're lucky to have such a caring, selfless person here, dedicating the short time he has on this planet to helping people such as ourselves. You should be thanking him, not patronizing him!

[mart]

Hi Deca,
I just finished checking out those links you posted. Yeah very scary stuff. Sometimes i'm just blown away by how deep the level of control runs. It's almost too much to believe even tho i know it's real! Sounds like you've really gone thru a lot. I've only just discovered that it's been happening to me and compared to you i've had it mild! For years it's been happening to me and i've always suspected something was odd but i had absolutely no one to talk to about this. It was only when i started emailing SS was i able to get answers that made sense and confirmed my intuition. As i said in my previous thread, since then i feel so much more empowered and have peace of mind because i know who the "enemy" is and can do something about it. I'm big on the whole mind over matter thing, so even though i still suffer from stomach aches i refuse to let it get to me or stop me from doing what i have to do. I used to have to be so strict with what i ate, now i'm like fuck it and i eat the foods that have been a problem in the past. The amazing thing is that my body is starting to get stronger and able to deal with it whereas before i had to slow down or stop what i was doing and my days were wasted. I still want to try Stewart's healing techniques for mind control tho to see if my stomach probs completely go away. I also get interrupted sleeps, intrusions into my dreams etc. But at least i'm not afraid or letting it control my life. I found that link interesting -
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/houndsofheavenoct91.shtml
It'd be interesting to see if anyone has tried the techniques in the "Psychotronic & Demonic Torment- Understanding the Attack and How to Thwart It." It's a bit technical for me to understand completely. By the way what videos of SS have you watched? I've seen two that i can recommend (the history of mind control pt 1 & 2) although they don't deal with healing of mind control but if you haven't seen them you might want to check it out:
http://www.mind-deprogramming.com/mdvj/mdvj.swf

[thomascovenant]

Sorry I havent replied to you peeps, I`ve had a strange couple of days.I havent checked out the links yet.I havent had time.If I were paranoid (which I might be), I`d say I`ve been kept away from my computer by events.When I did get on, I couldnt get online and when I did get online, this website wouldn`t load and my internet protection software went mental.Deca, Mart, I feel you.You are me.What the fuck is wrong with me?Why target me? I`m nobody (in the accepted sense).I don`t wanna overload people with info so I`ll keep it short.A couple of years ago, I "woke from a dream" to see 3 figures at the end of my bed.Afterwards I got the feeling that I had been "chipped".For 18 months, I couldn`t sleep properly, every time I closed my eyes, I would anticipate a blow to the head and expected it at any moment.One night I woke up and my skull was vibrating.I think it may have been a stroke (is this possible?).I was scared to sleep for a long time.Then I told my wife about the chip.I have never seen fear like I saw in her eyes at that moment.A few days after bringing it out into the open, it all stopped.When I mentioned it to the mrs, she anticipated EXACTLY what I was going to say which is."When I told people, they came and took it out".Recently, I`ve had the feeling that its still there, its just on stand by.I think I may have been prepared as a "sleeper".Thers much, much more than this.I can go into detail if it`ll help.Just a thought...Why did the person offering religion on this thread use the name james777? This looks a bit satanic to me.

[deca]

Try and control your emotions don`t let fear,paranoia and panic rule your life
you have every right to feel them,but You have to stay clam and double check your thoughts and emotions.Once you let fear and paranoia or panic you can be
lead,steered into trouble.Most friends and family will not understand whats going
on,They might make your situation worse and have concerns about your mental health.I would do as much research as you can google mind control, electronic harassment and implants.Theres lots of info but remember that most victims will
have similar systoms but please remember that thay have and continue to have
there minds messed with so stories,solutions and assumptions differ plus the perpetrators abuse this.Also you might be made suggestible so be careful and
double check things.

[thomascovenant]

Cheers deca, I had already assumed most of this but when you reflect, it spirals.You`re right, I do feel fear.My dad taught me when I was young that a "man" does not make decisions based on fear.I`m a little bit obsessed with logic and reason.This is partly why this stuff is so extreme to me.While I`m on the subject, half of my bloodline is completely unknown.Could this be relevant?

[thomascovenant]

Also, chi kung helps.

[deca]

Yep I think you will just screw yourself up trying to think why you are a target.Bottom line its not your fault what the perpetrators are doing is illegal ,unethical against humanity. I have wasted so much time trying to find why me,
and it does not solve anything just makes you blame yourself.


If you have internet problems use a proxy

http://www.ninjaproxy.com/

also have a few web email accounts handy

[deca]

Mart I have watched the history of mind control pt 1 but going to watch it again and part 2 I am a lot stronger and wiser now.

Dr. Nick Begich is very good too and I recommend his video`s
I have not got a link for google/or youtube but you can get some of them from .torrent sites
Think his haarp video on youtube
http://www.earthpulse.com/

I have watched his EARTH RISING SERIES and its good
gonna order his Mind Control:A Brave New World or Enhancing Human Performance soon

[deca]

on our forum there is links to web sites and videos
http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/index.php
Federation Against Mind Control Europe Forum Index -> Organized Action Against Mindcontrol

WEBSITES WEBSITES no talk just WEBSITES
VIDEOS VIDEOS no talk just VIDEOS

I use a proxy for this site so I can`t post direct links

[mart]

Thomascovenant,
i know it's really difficult but you've just got to hang in there. Stay calm like deca said and truly a lot of it does come down to not succumbing to the fear. You have to stay mentally tough. Eckhart Tolle wrote a book called "The Power of Now" and it teaches you to be the observer of your thoughts, feelings, life etc. so that you don't become drawn into the drama of what's going on. That way you become more detached which gives you a certain power and a better handle on the situation. Even tho the book is not a cure for mind control it has helped me tremendously & i highly recommend it. I'll let you know if i get any results from Stewart Swerdlows techniques.

[mart]

Hi Deca,
thanks for the links. By the way where do i get the links to websites and videos on our forum. Do you have to be a premier subscriber?

[deca]

Not sure I understand you ,you mean on this david icke forum? and what links to web sites and videos?


if you are on about http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/index.php

then you will have to go to that forum
click on "Organized Action Against Mindcontrol"
then scroll down to
"WEBSITES WEBSITES no talk just WEBSITES"
"VIDEOS VIDEOS no talk just VIDEOS"
I can`t post the direct link as I use a proxy so the address I get in my browser is no good to you.
its like this
"http://cgi.ninjaproxy.com/index.php/1010010A/e98449c51431a5cb01bd0631526156c04dc70c4f37a11d5f6c 9900ff8cbe8294889af0e1e13cc40939636bbab92619984"

[thomascovenant]

the last 24hrs have been massive! I don`t really know how to deliver this statement with the impact it deserves.Some will understand the significance of this more than others.Deca and Mart at least.Last night, I identified and removed a false memory.I shit you not.It is related to my early childhood and sexual abuse.I`ve come to the realisation, WITH ABSOLUTE CLARITY AND UNDENIABLE TRUTH THAT IT DID NOT HAPPEN.Wow. I can`t remember feeling this free since...well, ever.I have also learned a lot of negative stuff about how the illuminati plan to reduce the population by 92%.And I don`t mean that I think I know.I mean, I KNOW.Its big and its coming VERY soon and I feel no fear.ps, I have been working on this all night and would have posted earlier but I was blocked from posting until now.I used to think that I was going mad, now I wish that I was.

[thomascovenant]

If I`m wrong about this combined plan to use russia/iran/china to start a war and a staged alien invasion to reduce population to a managable level.I will be ecstatic to look like a major bellend.Also, Deca, Mart and any other TI`s out there, I urge you to start writing a journal of your experinces as soon as possible.When you don`t have to store the info mentally, it frees your mind to move forward.I promise this will help.I`ve only been writing it for 1 day and it has helped immensely.If you already do this, then I apologise for coming across as a patronizing twat.big love.
Thomas Covenant; unbeliever no more.

[deca]

Yep the perpetrators first attacked me during the night,I was working a boring night shift packing job so might have been in a trance/dreamish state, So they could of botched it up.
They do try and attach false association to my memories, mostly to unsettle me and to make me feel bad.
thomascovenant from what you have said I think they most of inserted some false stuff attached to some points in your life when you have vague memory or doubts about what happened and blanks.
Be careful thou you might be tricked into believing that something did not happen when it did.Sometimes if you been through a horrible experience and you can`t deal with it at that time your brain will push it away to deal with later.Sometimes these horrible experience come back to haunt you in later in life.Keeping a dairy and making a timeline of your life might help.

[deca]

thomascovenant do you feel you are still monitor or under there manipulation that you are aware off or are you decoding what has happened to you in the past.

[mart]

Wow u've just come a long way thomascovenant! I'm really glad you've had a major breakthrough. And about that illuminati plan to massively reduce the population - i've heard something along those lines too. I heard it was to do with 2012? At the moment i'm experiencing some major "attacks" on my physical body and the going's a bit rough it's the worse i've experienced. Also there's some major shit going down in Australia at the moment and a lot of people are suffering - the weather is causing all sorts of havoc down here and the government is working towards taking control of a number of aboriginal settlements given sovereignty years ago. SS says that's because the illuminati want to destroy all indigenous people as they are not as easily mind controlled. I feel like i'm in a science-fiction movie. I got so mad this afternoon after being "attacked" since last night that i went completely bezurk - at least i was home alone, and now the attacks have stopped! But i know they'll be back. So i have to find a way of stopping them completely. It's not fucking acceptable that they can violate my body whenever they want. There's got to be a way out of this madness!

[deca]

I do believe you about them working together e.g KGB/CIA/MI5 and that,
I do listen to alex jones at www.infowars.com and its worrying when you know
its true especially when you have some sort of personal experance of it.

[mart]

Hey deca I don't get what you mean by making a "timeline of your life". Can you explain that pls? TC i'm going to take your advice and write my experiences in my diary and see if that helps.

[deca]

mart I feel for you, I have a 24/7 voice to skull,my own thoughts get read back to me and shouting abuse at me.They also change my state of mind,Making it
hard to do anything.
I work out that they were wanting me to have outbursts and rant on.Mainly so
onlookers would think I have lost it and just think I was nuts.They do not want
somebody credibly talking about this.The perpetrators have also making me have
a swirling pain in my guts.

Also you have to be aware not to talk to much about "conspiracy theories" even
if you believe they are true....This will discredit you to as "the norm mass of people think they are interesting theories but don`t effect them"

I know it winds me up the governments and MI5/MI6 lie all the time....but we are lone "conspiracy" nut jobs.

[thomascovenant]

Quite a lot to reply to but here goes.I`m not scared and I`m not ashamed anymore so I`ll spill.The memory was of something being inserted into me when i was about 6.When i was young, i didnt eat.This was a problem for my parents.my dad took me to a hospital and something very small was inserted.I remember that there was no trauma at the time.This is very clear in my memory.This memory only came back about 2 years ago, I think it was triggered by an accusation made against my father 1 week after his death.the false aspect of the memory is the room in which it happened.I remember quite clearly being told to put my coat on to go to the hospital.This is clear because it was a new coat that pops had brought home for me that day.Man I was fuckin ecstatic with that coat!I had a major doubt because although i remember being told it was a hospital i was going to, the room i used to remember was clearly not a hospital room.This is the glamour i have lifted.It was not the dingy, scary room that i half remembered.It was real, it was a suppository (severe constipation) and my dad was not a beast.The only person i could ever really trust, thats why the prospect of him being a paedo scared me so much.this would very much fit with the controllers` idea of how to manipulate people.divide and rule.bastards probably even laughed about it amongst themselves.vy the way, i`m not saying that i`m anything special, as the great roy walker said "say what you see"

[thomascovenant]

Mart, I don`t feel that I`ve shrugged them off or anything.Its just that I`m becoming savvy to the game and some of their stuff isn`t sticking anymore.I hope this reassures.The reason for destroying indigenous Austrailians is the ancient knowledge that they have about the serpent people.The same is happening all ovr africa

[thomascovenant]

go to youtube, do a search for credo mutwa and listen to him.and for fucks sake dont allow their cookies

[deca]

Timeline

I am just thinking about this myself,I get a lot dates mixed up over my abuse

nov 2003

work at packing factory
when I began to be aware of something strange happing

january 2004
first heard a clear voice 2 skull,claiming to be the police

a guess something like that,a sort of dairy retracing what has happened and remember,does not have to just note bad things I would put do dates a times
when you felt good and mean something to you.But if you are getting screwed with now then I would be carefully not to give the perpetrators ammo to hit with you.
Also the perpetrators used to fool me thinking that I some how disturbed them on there system and I was interfering with their equipment and its was my fault.Most of there bullshit ends up with them blaming you.I figured out they were monitoring my 24/7.

but maybe in thomascovenant it might be usefull to go back to his child hood
and straighten that out and get it clear in his mind.

But Mart I would go back to when the abuse started.

[thomascovenant]

I mentioned in an earlier post that I may remember having a stroke one night a few years ago.About a year later I read a book called siege, can`t remember who by.In the book it describes the death of a german soldier on the russian front in 1945 (I think).It said " he fell face down into the rubble, there was a great, grey, electric shaking in his brain and he breathed his last".Chaps, I promise you, I`ve never, been so struck by a "random" choice of reading matter in my life.This incident coincides with what I thought was removal of the "chip".It still might be that.I feel that I was chipped and found to be incompatible.They do have other methods and they have used some of them.Deca, shit man I wish i could help you out.I havent had anything as severe as either of you, attack-wise.The tingles I talked about are positive, I feel this Instinctively (after breaking thriugh the fear barrier).The reason that i started the journal was to decode the tingles as i feel that someones trying to communicate with me through my nerves.Different sensations, various parts of the body, sometimes pleasant, reassuring.These are not attacks, I`m sure of it.Mart, remember David Ickes words..."I have found that when people put information out in fear of the consequences, those people invariably suffer those consequences.You pull negative experiences and people into your life, just as you do with the positive.

[thomascovenant]

Deca, the perps already have access to every thought you have, otherwise it couldn`t work.This the reason for removing the fear.

[thomascovenant]

I`m not saying that I am completely without fear, just that I`ve gained control of it rather than it controlling me.Also, although I feel a bit shit for not being able to help you guys, I will say this.Both of you will never understand the scale of the help you have given me.I could not have progressed to this point without Decas input.And Mart, without you, it would have just been one weirdo talking shite to another weirdo.(hope you know what I mean Deca).

[deca]

yeah it can be a lonely cereal world at times,but remember you are not alone and theres plenty of people experiencing simalir.
I have learnt that theres many different forms of mind control from the mild,to the social,to the direct they all use simliar techniques just the medium that they a delivered to you.
Please stay grounded in realty what ever that is for you.beware of flying of in tangents especially if its gonna have some effect in your physical world.What you believe you are doing and the reason that you are doing it might make complete sense to you at the time of doing it,but it might be observed completly
differently by other people witch is the desired effect of the perpetrators.

[eternal_spirit]

You are far from crazy. The ones using the hidden technologies to covertly influence and try to control you, know which buttons to press to invoke responses from others around you. They will see you do things out of character and talk of hidden mind controll techniques......which to them because they aren't experiencing this, they may view you as crazy.

It's difficult for you to find the proof and evidence to know how you're being controlled let alone convince others of this. I wish I could offer help, but theres so much disinfo and half truths it's a complicated issue. This is important to the brotherhood so they will put lot's of disinfo 'out there'

keep up the good work deca. You know if you fight them for long enough, they may stop harrasing you. You may be deemed as an uncontrollable mind to them.

[deca]

eternal_spirit thanks,

The inventors and perpetrators of this form of mind control and body manulipation have really screwed the world up.
If we can`t be sure or trust ourself,how can we trust anybody else.

[thomascovenant]

I am different now.I am aware now.I know this seems sudden to you and it is, in a way.I`ve only just started posting here as you know but I`ve been aware of this stuff since Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Centre Disaster came out.Can you believe it? I found the beginning of my path at the local library.The staff there are cool, obviously, they choose which books to buy.It just sort of leapt out at me.At the time, I thought David Icke was a mentalist, although I didn`t know why.I do now.Its because I was a mentalist.Nobody was more 5-sense than me.Deca, I understand your concern and I appreciate it.This is for real mate.I`ve never been more certain of anything in my life.If fear has been replaced by knowledge and fully functioning instinct, I can`t let paranoia/fear/conditioning or whatever take away what I`ve learned/become.My eyes are open and it is fucking amazing.Anyway, I don`t wanna rant on but I do wanna say this; I know that the bastards can`t touch me now.I`ve moved on.Advising caution is always sensible.Trust me, I`m not one to get carried away by stuff, especially stuff that used to make me think that people were pretentious wankers when I saw it in them.I thought for a long time that there were no mysteries in the world, no god, no soul, no eternity, no healers, no power in colour or crystals, no chi, no psychics and just about everything thats fast becoming the only truth.This isn`t even what I wanted to post but Deca, you seem to have toomany doubts.This is understandable considering the onslaught that you are living under.I wish I could help.Are you going to the meeting?

[thomascovenant]

Shit Deca, correction required.They don`t know All your thoughts at all.They are not that sophisticated yet.They send out thought waves over a wide area and can document the people that receive it.Then they are experimenting with those that they can affect.You still have a good chance of getting free of this.I`m sorry if I panicked you earlier.I don`t try to understand why I know this, I just know it.

[deca]

I am staying were I am that is my choice other TI`s have claimed to be track all over the world.I am staying were I am known and have help.Maybe some TI`s have outrun this I don`t know.

[deca]

what meeting?

[deca]

A lot what they do to me is in thought process which thought will I go with,they
seam to be messing with how I formulate thoughts, also they can influence witch one takes preference,They do pushing thoughts and thought suppression on me to.This is the area witch I think they are working on.The sub vocal seams
well mastered(thats the area were you talk to your self but dont engage your mouth were you sort reason with your self)