Israeli Butchers Use Dead 9-year-old Boy as Target

[jesuitsdidit]

Israeli Butchers Use Dead 9-year-old Boy as Target Practice


"Dad, I'm Dying"
Ola Attallah, IOL Correspondent

Jan 15, 2009

GAZA CITY — "Dad, I'm dying."

The words keep echoing in Kamal Awaga's ears, sending jolts of pain into his feeble, wounded body.

These were the last words uttered by his 9-year-old son, Ibrahim, before he ended up as a practicing target for Israeli soldiers.

"They killed my son in cold blood," says the grief-stricken father, still in a state of shock.

Ibrahim joined more than 350 children killed by Israel in its three-week onslaught on the coastal enclave.

But while others fell victim to killer bullets or deadly bombs, Ibrahim's fate was even more tragic.

He became a shooting practice for a squad of Israeli soldiers.

"The Israelis did not show mercy for his innocence," said his tearful father from his bed at the Al-Shefa hospital in Gaza City.

"They had no pity for his tiny body," added the heart-broken father.

A Sunny Day

Nothing in the day prepared the Awaga family for the tragic twist of events that unfolded.

They woke up to a sunny morning after days of being locked in one small room to escape the massive Israeli bombardment.

"Mom, let's have our breakfast out in the garden. I'm tired of staying in this room," the grieved mother recalls Ibrahim's plea.

An hour later, the table was set in the garden and the family was hoping to enjoy rare moments of peace, unaware of the eyes watching them from a distance.

A first missile stole the family's job before another destroyed their house.

"Dad, I am dying," cried Ibrahim to his father who rushed frantically to his side.

"Hurry, let's go," Awaga told his wife and two other children while carrying bleeding Ibrahim.

But even before they could reach the gate, a flood of bullets showered them.

One bullet hit the mother's leg and another hit the father's waist.

Ibrahim's two frightened brothers ran for cover behind the rubbles of their bombed-out house.

Shooting Practice

As the firing died down, the family thought their misery was over. But the Israeli soldiers were not finished yet.

"When the soldiers came closer, I thought they will kill me," said Awaga who faked being dead.

"But they were aiming at my young child," he said choking at the bitter memory.

One soldier came close to Ibrahim's body, turning him by his leg and laughing while another fired his gun to the dead boy's head.

Laughs got louder as they carried the body to a higher place to start their party.

For a whole hour, the father hushed his cries of pain as he watched the Israeli soldiers compete in sniping on his dead son's body.

"They were using his bullet-ridden, bleeding body as a shooting practice.

"With each bullet, they were humming with words I could not figure out, but it sounded full of rapture. It was as if they were celebrating."

When they finally had enough "practicing," the Israelis took their guns and left the house.

Four complete days passed before emergency doctors were able to find their way to the family and rush them to hospital.

"What did my son do to deserve that?" Awaga asks, shaking his head in disbelief.

"The Israelis killed my kid, not once or twice but a thousand times."

http://uruknet.info/?p=m50891&hd=&size=1&l=e

[jesuitsdidit]

seeing as XXXXXXXX managed to get the original Israeli Butchers Use Dead 9-year-old Boy as Target Practice moved to the rant room by setting up a faux rant
im starting another

is this good enough 4 u silly gilly
dont u dare belittle me when im fighting this evil of unimaginable proportions
INSULT REMOVED
go bak 2 yr needlework
b4 i shout so loud yr head falls off ok

and the rest of you INSULT REMOVED who believe anything u r told ffs wake up will you

[jesuitsdidit]

Israeli snipers shoot girl 20 times as she was walking to school
IDF kills girl, 13, on her way to school
AMOS HAREL and ARNON REGULAR
Ha'aretz, 8 October 2004

Israeli soldiers shot dead a 13-year-old Palestinian girl in the southern Gaza Strip yesterday.

Five other Palestinians were killed in the Strip in three separate incidents, bringing the Palestinian death toll to at least 77 since the start of Operation Days of Penitence a week ago.

Military sources admitted yesterday that the killing of Iman Alhamas was a mistake. They said the case was being investigated and confirmed the possibility that she had been shot from several posts.

The girl was shot dead on her way to school, accompanied by two classmates. She was wearing her school uniform and carrying her book bag, which military sources said was suspected of containing explosives. Medical sources in Gaza said the girl was hit by 20 bullets.

After Israel Defense Forces troops fired a warning shot, the girl dropped her bag and tried to run away. The troops then shot her dead. She was about 400 meters from the school. The troops did not find any explosives or weapons in her schoolbag.

At the same time, Palestinian militants opened fire at the IDF post from the neighboring Rafah area.

"When the soldiers fired in the air, the girl threw her bag and tried to flee," said H., a mechanic of Tel Sultan who witnessed the shooting. "The bullets hit the bag and then the girl."

H. said the child was about 50 meters from the military posts when the soldiers started shooting in the air. "She started running and the soldiers started firing hails of bullets at her. She was hit in the arm and fell on the ground, but they went on shooting," he said.

H., who called an ambulance, said the girl was shot from several posts, not only from the one nearest to her.

Her body was left on the ground for almost two hours, until the IDF enabled Palestinian medical teams to approach her.

"The incident occurred in a place forbidden to Palestinians," military sources said. The soldiers said this was not the usual way to school and that her being near the post was not accidental, and she was probably sent by terrorists to check the soldiers' alertness.

The sources said the soldiers were shooting at an adult woman in a sterile area, where anyone who enters is doomed. "In any case, the army is checking why the soldiers fired at the child and why so many bullets were fired," they said.

However, Palestinian sources said this was Iman's and her schoolmates' usual route to school.

The distance between the girl and soldiers was so great that even if she had carried explosives she in no way endangered their safety, military sources said.

Meanwhile, an Israel Air Force attack helicopter fired a missile at a car traveling in the Shati refugee camp near Gaza City yesterday evening, killing the Islamic Jihad commander in Gaza, Bashir Al-Dabash, and his bodyguard, Ahmed Al-Ar'er.

The IDF said in a statement that it had targeted the vehicle, adding that Dabash, 38, was responsible for dozens of attacks on Israeli civilians and soldiers. He was directly responsible for the deaths of eight Israelis. The two men were also said to be involved in the production of weapons, including Qassam rockets.

Dabash's car was torn apart in the missile strike. His body was carried to the morgue by militants firing in the air and chanting for revenge.

"Islamic Jihad will not be broken by this martyrdom," said Khaled al-Batsh, a senior political leader in Gaza. "Islamic Jihad's armed wing will return this strike with tougher strikes against the Zionist entity."

Dabash headed Jihad's military wing, known as the Al-Quds Brigade.

His assassination was Israel's most high-profile since it killed the leader of the kindred Hamas group in April.

Dabash's killing could complicate international efforts to end the massive Israeli offensive into northern Gaza, in which three Israelis have also been killed.

A Hamas representative in Beirut said his organization would not stop firing rockets at Israeli towns as long at the IDF continues its offensive and the occupation of Palestinian areas.

In a later incident, an Israeli helicopter missile killed three Palestinian militants and wounded seven, six of them civilians, in the Jabalya refugee camp, witnesses and Palestinian security sources said.

The militants, members of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, were preparing to attack IDF soldiers, according to witnesses and the militant group.

An army spokesman said Israeli forces, operating in Jabalya to root out militants firing rockets into nearby Israel, spotted a group planting bombs. "Before they could do so, a helicopter fired at them and hit two," he said.

IDF troops also shot dead a man south of the Gush Katif settlements. In addition, an Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades member was killed in an air force strike in the Jabalya refugee camp in north Gaza before dawn. Three others were wounded in the attack.

Israel fired a missile targeting a group of militants seen meeting in the camp. Israel did not comment on reports that the missile was fired by an unmanned drone.

In the West Bank, IDF troops yesterday killed Mussa Jibril, a Hamas activist who had been involved in shooting and bombing attacks.

The IDF said Jibril, who was found with a Kalashnikov rifle, had opened fire on soldiers during an arrest operation and was killed by return fire. Two other Palestinians accompanying him were arrested.


http://www.fromoccupiedpalestine.org/node/1432

[jesuitsdidit]

i did have a really good article about israeli snipers routinely targeting palestinian children incl fotos of the morgue
but cant find it now..:(

[zarah]

The fact that Israeli soldiers commit heinous acts of barbarity against innocent people is well documented. I can't find it now but there was a really positive video of a woman who was physically putting herself in front of an Israeli Attack Force soldier's rifle, as he was trying to aim at some children who were daring to throw stones at him and his mates.

[marpat]

The fact that Israeli soldiers commit heinous acts of barbarity against innocent people is well documented. I can't find it now but there was a really positive video of a woman who was physically putting herself in front of an Israeli Attack Force soldier's rifle, as he was trying to aim at some children who were daring to throw stones at him and his mates.

Funny how you cant seem to find the video of this.

Maybe you should find some of Israelis civilians who have been killed by blind rocket fire or suicide bombing.

You seem to be happy injustifying violence as long as it goes one way. Personally I think both sides do not help themselves or each other.

[marpat]

seeing as runishiter and cowpat managed to get the original Israeli Butchers Use Dead 9-year-old Boy as Target Practice moved to the rant room by setting up a faux rant
im starting another

is this good enough 4 u silly gilly
dont u dare belittle me when im fighting this evil of unimaginable proportions
u stupid idiot
go bak 2 yr needlework
b4 i shout so loud yr head falls off ok

and the rest of you half-baked idiots who believe anything u r told ffs wake up will you

So do you read a lot of material from the Iraqi resistance?

[zarah]

Funny how you cant seem to find the video of this.

Maybe you should find some of Israelis civilians who have been killed by blind rocket fire or suicide bombing.

You seem to be happy injustifying violence as long as it goes one way. Personally I think both sides do not help themselves or each other.

How's it funny? I imagine I could if I looked hard enough. In fact I think I saw it in this forum. Do you suppose I'm making it up in an attempt to conceal the truth that Israeli soldiers are the salt of the earth who obey the rule of law?

Y'know, you spend an inordinate amount of time, attempting to illustrate how both sides are equally culpable or have commited equally appalling crimes, while being nothing but biased towards Israel. I don't have issue with anyone' expressing their point of view, but it's confusing as to why you would want to disguise it as anything other than what it actually is.

In response to your assertion that I seem 'happy injustifying violence as long as it goes one way,' Israel believes it has the right to defend itself, and I'm quite sure that you would agree. I believe that Palestine has the right to defend itself. I believe that each Palestinian has the right to protection under international law which includes the right to return and I believe that Israel, in accordance with international law, should be held accountable for its actions. It really is very simple.

[zarah]

So do you read a lot of material from the Iraqi resistance?


Who are the Iraqi resistance?

[jesuitsdidit]

Maybe you should find some of Israelis civilians who have been killed by blind rocket fire or suicide bombing.

in total probably less than 100
compared 2 the many thousands of Palestinians
thats wot i call biased..

[entrangermercenary]

Bringing this up AGAIN seems like the same tactics the EU are using in Ireland. Lets keep going till we get the yes vote !! ;)

[real6]

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f303/5DB/Misc/israelstone.jpg

[zarah]

Bringing this up AGAIN seems like the same tactics the EU are using in Ireland. Lets keep going till we get the yes vote !! ;)

Bringing what up again?

[entrangermercenary]

Bringing what up again?


This 14 page thread

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49984

[ex sheep]

yes marpat
here is the video
both sides

stones against high powered riffles and air power
FFS get a life

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=palestine+girl+unarmed+stands+up&emb=0#

[marpat]

How's it funny? I imagine I could if I looked hard enough. In fact I think I saw it in this forum. Do you suppose I'm making it up in an attempt to conceal the truth that Israeli soldiers are the salt of the earth who obey the rule of law?

Y'know, you spend an inordinate amount of time, attempting to illustrate how both sides are equally culpable or have commited equally appalling crimes, while being nothing but biased towards Israel. I don't have issue with anyone' expressing their point of view, but it's confusing as to why you would want to disguise it as anything other than what it actually is.

In response to your assertion that I seem 'happy injustifying violence as long as it goes one way,' Israel believes it has the right to defend itself, and I'm quite sure that you would agree. I believe that Palestine has the right to defend itself. I believe that each Palestinian has the right to protection under international law which includes the right to return and I believe that Israel, in accordance with international law, should be held accountable for its actions. It really is very simple.

Why should I be biased? I have no interest or loyalty to Israel.

People have a right to defend themselves but dont you think firing rockets at people is an attack and not a defense, especially when they know what will come? I think they do it knowing that Israel will be criticised for their heavy responses.

[marpat]

yes marpat

both sides

stones against high powered riffles and air power
FFS get a life

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=palestine+girl+unarmed+stands+up&emb=0#

For an ex sheep you dont half follow the flock. Just in case you have never seen any facts the Palestinians are armed with many weapons such as Ak47's, RPG's, and home made bombs.

I guess your political bias doesnt like to take that into account though.

[ex sheep]

For an ex sheep you dont half follow the flock. Just in case you have never seen any facts the Palestinians are armed with many weapons such as Ak47's, RPG's, and home made bombs.

I guess your political bias doesnt like to take that into account though.

and you are just one big mupat:D

everyone know's that :D

[marpat]

and you are just one big mupat:D

everyone know's that :D

Well the sheep in your flock may feel that. I guess you feel safe with the herd.

Bbbaaaahhhh

[zarah]

Why should I be biased? I have no interest or loyalty to Israel.

People have a right to defend themselves but dont you think firing rockets at people is an attack and not a defense, especially when they know what will come? I think they do it knowing that Israel will be criticised for their heavy responses.

You have no need to defend yourself to me. It seems as though you're posts are biased towards Israel, simply because you seem to refuse to view the situation subjectively from the Palestinian perspective.

I don't think that you can argue the rockets are an attack, simply because Israel has continually tightened its stranglehold on Gaza since the ceasefire. Hamas has repeatedly stated that it will cease rocket attacks once Israel adheres properly to the ceasefire agreement.

Perhaps Hamas are banking on criticism of Israel, in which case Israel has played right into their hands. Perhaps Israel continued to restrict aid etc into Gaza to ensure that the rocket attacks would continue to give Israel the justification it felt it needed to launch its attack.

[ex sheep]

Well the sheep in your flock may feel that. I guess you feel safe with the herd.

Bbbaaaahhhh

as long as I'm not in the same herd as you, and we all know what that is,
:) he he

[zarah]

For an ex sheep you dont half follow the flock. Just in case you have never seen any facts the Palestinians are armed with many weapons such as Ak47's, RPG's, and home made bombs.
I guess your political bias doesnt like to take that into account though.

Blimey, eh? I can totally see why Israel feels it needs to use the force it does now..I thought it was just like stones and sometimes bottles.

[tyler]

Israelis are pure evil.The whole world is now seeing that.

They represent the devil on earth.

[jesuitsdidit]

Israelis are pure evil.The whole world is now seeing that.

They represent the devil on earth.

u shd know not all Jews r pro Israel

see

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/about/mission.cfm

[somewarez]

Thanks ex sheep for the link,

That is one very very brave woman!

Makes me cry :(

I saw a video which I can't find anymore similar to this, I just can't understand how people can carry out these acts of violence towards another living human/species :(

Its not right, something is wrong with them.

its fu*kin crazy :(

a sad and upset

SW :(

[jesuitsdidit]

True Torah Jews Against Zionism - Our Mission
The relatively new concept of Zionism began only about one hundred years ago and since that time Torah-true Jewry has steadfastly opposed the Zionist ideology. This struggle is rooted in two convictions:

1. Zionism, by advocating a political and military end to the Jewish exile, denies the very essence of our Diaspora existence. We are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine Redemption. All human efforts to alter a metaphysical reality are doomed to end in failure and bloodshed. History has clearly borne out this teaching.
2. Zionism has not only denied our fundamental belief in Heavenly Redemption it has also created a pseudo-Judaism which views the essence of our identity to be a secular nationalism. Accordingly, Zionism and the Israeli state have consistently endeavored, via persuasion and coercion, to replace a Divine and Torah centered understanding of our people hood with an armed materialism.

True Torah Jews is dedicated to informing the world and in particular the American public and politicians that all Jews do not support the ideology of the Zionist state called "Israel" which is diametrically opposite to the teachings of traditional Judaism.

We are concerned that the widespread misconception that all Jews support the zionist state and its actions endangers Jews worldwide.

continues..


http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/about/mission.cfm

[gilly]

seeing as XXXXXXXX managed to get the original Israeli Butchers Use Dead 9-year-old Boy as Target Practice moved to the rant room by setting up a faux rant
im starting another

is this good enough 4 u silly gilly
dont u dare belittle me when im fighting this evil of unimaginable proportions
INSULT REMOVED
go bak 2 yr needlework
b4 i shout so loud yr head falls off ok

and the rest of you INSULT REMOVED who believe anything u r told ffs wake up will you


This type of report breaks my heart. It's impossible to comprehend the depravity of people who target children, and even derive great pleasure from doing so.

I have absolutely no idea why you keep making completely unjustified personal attacks on me Jesuitdidit - none at all.

I dare belittle you, because you insist on firing hostile gibberish at me personally.

I'd like to point out also, that you are a melodramatic tart - you're not actually "fighting" anything, except me, and the numerous other forum members who you routinely aim nonsensical accusations and insults at.

I'm praying for the protection of all the innocent vicitms of this mindless horror.

I'm sending you some Reiki healing Jesuitsdidit, because you seriously need help.

[marpat]

Blimey, eh? I can totally see why Israel feels it needs to use the force it does now..I thought it was just like stones and sometimes bottles.


Well it is not just stones and bottles, never has been.

[metacomet]

Funny how you cant seem to find the video of this.

Maybe you should find some of Israelis civilians who have been killed by blind rocket fire or suicide bombing.


Fucking disgusts me that you would say something like this.

If I were in a room with someone and they let some snide comment like this loose I would put them straight in the worst way.

I'm so disgusted with the back and forth finger pointing attitude.

Children do not deserve to die. I do not give a shit what fork-tongued excuse you people are capable of spitting...

Disgusting.

[metacomet]

By the way, the strange 'humming' of approval that the Israelis were making while they shot the dead boy?

Think about it.

What humans behave that way.

Those people are possessed of the same evil that was around thousands of years ago. It's fucking ancient.

It doesn't matter what race or nationality - the fact is those people are possessed with evil. They delight in blood and suffering and pain...

They aren't 'people' at all. They are empty vessels and the only joy and life they feel is in the taking of others lives.

This is an old an ancient sickness.

To see people defend their actions by pointing fingers only highlights the deception and utter sickness that has invaded peoples minds...

[marpat]

Fucking disgusts me that you would say something like this.

If I were in a room with someone and they let some snide comment like this loose I would put them straight in the worst way.

I'm so disgusted with the back and forth finger pointing attitude.

Children do not deserve to die. I do not give a shit what fork-tongued excuse you people are capable of spitting...

Disgusting.

Grow up and look at the source document, its written by the Iraqi resistance with nothing to substantiate it. Now I wonder why they would be keen to print such anti-Israeli stories. I am just amazed that people are sucking it up, all these supposed conspiracy theorists who think they can see through what is going on in the world. Looks to me that they cant tell when they have been duped. The fact is that they WANT to believe it is true because it is an attack on Israel. For them belief is enough and asking for proof means you are a zionist.

Think you are some big man threatening people? fucking keyboard warrior.

[zarah]

Grow up and look at the source document, its written by the Iraqi resistance with nothing to substantiate it. Now I wonder why they would be keen to print such anti-Israeli stories. I am just amazed that people are sucking it up, all these supposed conspiracy theorists who think they can see through what is going on in the world. Looks to me that they cant tell when they have been duped. The fact is that they WANT to believe it is true because it is an attack on Israel. For them belief is enough and asking for proof means you are a zionist.

Think you are some big man threatening people? fucking keyboard warrior.


Okay, and who are the Iraqi resistance?

Does the source of the document automatically negate the meaning behind the words? Does it mean that Israel isn't a country which systematically breaks international law in the worst way? (the killing of children, in case you're wondering...)

Why do you think so many people are attacking Israel?

Lots of questions, I know..apologies..

[entrangermercenary]

By the way, the strange 'humming' of approval that the Israelis were making while they shot the dead boy?

Think about it.

You said think about it!! Well think about it !!

Here we are in the middle of a warzone helicopter gunships and fixed wing aircraft launching all sorts of shit. We have armoured personnel carriers and tanks, jeeps and other kit driving around.
Shooting, rpgs going off, plenty of shouting ( screaming) by hamas , civillians and Israelis. Did you not see any footage on TV on whatever channel, hardly a libary was it.

And he can hear the soldiers humming. Fcking hell bionic ears. Get a grip and think about things a little eh!!

[metacomet]

[COLOR="Purple"]Okay, and who are the Iraqi resistance?


Anyone who isn't on the side of Israel. Clearly.

And lol @ keyboard warrior.

[gilly]

You said think about it!! Well think about it !!

Here we are in the middle of a warzone helicopter gunships and fixed wing aircraft launching all sorts of shit. We have armoured personnel carriers and tanks, jeeps and other kit driving around.
Shooting, rpgs going off, plenty of shouting ( screaming) by hamas , civillians and Israelis. Did you not see any footage on TV on whatever channel, hardly a libary was it.

And he can hear the soldiers humming. Fcking hell bionic ears. Get a grip and think about things a little eh!!

If the little boy's father says he heard them humming, I'm inclined to believe he heard them humming - re the cacophony of other noises, well that would explain why he couldn't make out the words they were saying.

I've taken part in white witchcraft rituals (designed to bring health, happiness, peace & protection, before you get the wrong idea...also they carry the specific intent that nobody can be in any way harmed, or have their free-will interfered with).

I can state categorically that the humming / chanting (especially when done in unison with others) creates a resonance to raise energy - in the case in point, a dark, evil energy. The words they chanted will have been very significant in this.

If a lack of knowledge on this stuff leads you to doubt it's potency, it's similar to those who are referred to as "sheep" decrying the conspiracists' theories, without ever availing themselves of the facts.

[entrangermercenary]

If the little boy's father says he heard them humming, I'm inclined to believe he heard them humming - re the cacophony of other noises, well that would explain why he couldn't make out the words they were saying.

I've taken part in white witchcraft rituals (designed to bring health, happiness, peace & protection, before you get the wrong idea...also they carry the specific intent that nobody can be in any way harmed, or have their free-will interfered with).

I can state categorically that the humming / chanting (especially when done in unison with others) creates a resonance to raise energy - in the case in point, a dark, evil energy. The words they chanted will have been very significant in this.

If a lack of knowledge on this stuff leads you to doubt it's potency, it's similar to those who are referred to as "sheep" decrying the conspiracists' theories, without ever availing themselves of the facts.

Go and standby a airport and humm when there is incoming traffick see if u can hear yourself !! Read this the original thread


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49984

[debs67gb]

If the little boy's father says he heard them humming, I'm inclined to believe he heard them humming - re the cacophony of other noises, well that would explain why he couldn't make out the words they were saying.

I've taken part in white witchcraft rituals (designed to bring health, happiness, peace & protection, before you get the wrong idea...also they carry the specific intent that nobody can be in any way harmed, or have their free-will interfered with).

I can state categorically that the humming / chanting (especially when done in unison with others) creates a resonance to raise energy - in the case in point, a dark, evil energy. The words they chanted will have been very significant in this.

If a lack of knowledge on this stuff leads you to doubt it's potency, it's similar to those who are referred to as "sheep" decrying the conspiracists' theories, without ever availing themselves of the facts.

I have to quote on this because I was part of a coven quite a few years back and that kind of humming/chanting is used to invoke spirit/energy :)

[gilly]

I have to quote on this because I was part of a coven quite a few years back and that kind of humming/chanting is used to invoke spirit/energy :)

Correct.

[entrangermercenary]

I have to quote on this because I was part of a coven quite a few years back and that kind of humming/chanting is used to invoke spirit/energy :)

Where were you chanting/humming ??

[gilly]

Go and standby a airport and humm when there is incoming traffick see if u can hear yourself !! Read this the original thread


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49984

They weren't in an airport.

[lostwonderer]

This story may be saddening, but both opposing sides have had children killed, in one way or another.

[tyler]

No, we are not having this crap anymore!!

Israel has just killed at least 450 children with high explosives in the past month. They have dropped all kinds of bombs including phosphorous on the homes of these children killing their parents too.

They have done the same in Lebanon killing just as many last year.

They do this on a regular basis and their army has been sniping at children and killing thousands for years.

How many Israeli children have died in the past twenty years by bombs? probably around six or seven.

Israel is an illegal, gangster state that is getting away with mass murder.

[persian_x]

Grow up and look at the source document, its written by the Iraqi resistance with nothing to substantiate it. Now I wonder why they would be keen to print such anti-Israeli stories. I am just amazed that people are sucking it up, all these supposed conspiracy theorists who think they can see through what is going on in the world. Looks to me that they cant tell when they have been duped. The fact is that they WANT to believe it is true because it is an attack on Israel. For them belief is enough and asking for proof means you are a zionist.

Think you are some big man threatening people? fucking keyboard warrior.

4 500 posts of zionism. Man it is sooo easy to identify you :D

Don't worry little one, there is only one divine law of cosmos that will dissolve your DNA like salt molecules. This law is within me and anyone who stands up against Illuminati pawns such as yourself

[jesuitsdidit]

its written by the Iraqi resistance

can u substantiate this claim?

[jesuitsdidit]

Grow up and look at the source document, its written by the Iraqi resistance with nothing to substantiate it. Now I wonder why they would be keen to print such anti-Israeli stories. I am just amazed that people are sucking it up, all these supposed conspiracy theorists who think they can see through what is going on in the world. Looks to me that they cant tell when they have been duped. The fact is that they WANT to believe it is true because it is an attack on Israel. For them belief is enough and asking for proof means you are a zionist.

Think you are some big man threatening people? fucking keyboard warrior.

there r plenty of stories of Israelis targetting children going bak yrs if u bothered 2 look.

[metacomet]

4 500 posts of zionism. Man it is sooo easy to identify you :D


Seriously. Marpat needs to change his avatar to a picture of a wrench.

Fuckin tool.

[jesuitsdidit]

Here we are in the middle of a warzone helicopter gunships and fixed wing aircraft launching all sorts of shit.
how do u know it wasnt a quiet period?
We have armoured personnel carriers and tanks, jeeps and other kit driving around.
how do u know it wasnt a quiet period?
Shooting, rpgs going off, plenty of shouting ( screaming) by hamas , civillians and Israelis.
how do u know it wasnt a quiet period?

[jesuitsdidit]

I thought it was just like stones and sometimes bottles.

ah, theres so much u dont know eh Zagent?

[entrangermercenary]

how do u know it wasnt a quiet period?

how do u know it wasnt a quiet period?

how do u know it wasnt a quiet period?


Because I know they needed continuous combat air patrols and surveillance by drones to support the ground troops. Tanks don't just switch there engines off all at once, or armoured personnel carriers. Ever heard of sitting targets.

[jesuitsdidit]

because you seriously need help.

do I? what kind of help do i seriously need?

[jesuitsdidit]

Because I know they needed continuous combat air patrols and surveillance by drones to support the ground troops. Tanks don't just switch there engines off all at once, or armoured personnel carriers. Ever heard of sitting targets.

i would say if they had time to prat around using a dead boy as target practice then they clearly werent in a combat situation
most of what u say is conjecture and imo prob wrong..

[entrangermercenary]

i would say if they had time to prat around using a dead boy as target practice then they clearly werent in a combat situation
most of what u say is conjecture and imo prob wrong..

WERE they not in Gazza then?? Was that not as a lot of posters on here are saying total war ?? Either it was a war or not !!

u are assuming the op was not a story for propaganda. Im telling you reasons why it most probably was.

Continuous combat air patrols and drones for reconnaissance are not conjecture they are fact.

Tanks switching there engines off in a combat zone with Hamas fighters in and around them is not going to happen.Not conjecture fact.

Its nice and quiet what u see on TV ,a few little bangs and fireworks from miles away.

[jesuitsdidit]

WERE they not in Gazza then?? Was that not as a lot of posters on here are saying total war ?? Either it was a war or not !!

u are assuming the op was not a story for propaganda. Im telling you reasons why it most probably was.

Continuous combat air patrols and drones for reconnaissance are not conjecture they are fact.

Tanks switching there engines off in a combat zone with Hamas fighters in and around them is not going to happen.Not conjecture fact.

Its nice and quiet what u see on TV ,a few little bangs and fireworks from miles away.

maybe they were in an area that had been secured
theres no fighting once its secured..

[entrangermercenary]

maybe they were in an area that had been secured
theres no fighting once its secured..

Read the op. They fired a missile at the house 1st then advanced on it. Sounds secure to me . They going to be shooting a missile in front of them if its secure then?? Could of been there own troops in the house !! A blue on blue they call it.

Were they not fighting in a built up area , houses flats etc.
Beleive me any lull in the fighting u wd be getting some scoff down your throat, drinks and weapons cleaned and may be nock a few zzs out.

Awaga faked being dead !! Hmm Dont u think they may just have checked he was dead and searched his body for documents. Intell is highly sought after
Then they used him for snipping practice. Think they would have preferred Live Hamas fighters Just doesnt add up to me.

[zarah]

ah, theres so much u dont know eh Zagent?

Zagent?

[always_rebel]

It's a god damn war crime :mad:

I can't imagine the parents' suffering while being a witness of such a horrid crime :eek:


Fucken israeli scum nazi criminals.

The olny such bloodthirsty nation on the face of the earth.

[jiffy]

even fellow Jew's knew what the founder's of Israel were like


Letters to the New York Times
December 4, 1948

New Palestine Party
Visit of Menachem Begin and Aims of Political Movement Discussed

TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:

Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the �Freedom Party� (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin�s political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.

Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin�s behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.

The public avowals of Begin�s party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.

Attack on Arab Village

A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants � 240 men, women, and children � and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.

The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.

Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.

During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.

The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.

Discrepancies Seen

The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a �Leader State� is the goal.

In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin�s efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.

The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.

(signed)

Isidore Abramowitz, Hannah Arendt, Abraham Brick, Rabbi Jessurun Cardozo, Albert Einstein, Herman Eisen, M.D., Hayim Fineman, M. Gallen, M.D., H.H. Harris, Zelig S. Harris, Sidney Hook, Fred Karush, Bruria Kaufman, Irma L. Lindheim, Nachman Maisel, Symour Melman, Myer D. Mendelson, M.D., Harry M. Orlinsky, Samuel Pitlick, Fritz Rohrlich, Louis P. Rocker, Ruth Sager, Itzhak Sankowsky, I.J. Schoenberg, Samuel Shuman, M. Znger, Irma Wolpe, Stefan Wolpe

New York, Dec. 2, 1948

[jesuitsdidit]

Read the op. They fired a missile at the house 1st then advanced on it. Sounds secure to me . They going to be shooting a missile in front of them if its secure then?? Could of been there own troops in the house !! A blue on blue they call it.

Were they not fighting in a built up area , houses flats etc.
Beleive me any lull in the fighting u wd be getting some scoff down your throat, drinks and weapons cleaned and may be nock a few zzs out.

Awaga faked being dead !! Hmm Dont u think they may just have checked he was dead and searched his body for documents. Intell is highly sought after
Then they used him for snipping practice. Think they would have preferred Live Hamas fighters Just doesnt add up to me.

very often there is a lull
once uve got some scoff down your throat, drinks and weapons cleaned and may be nocked a few zzs out
u'd hav time to do wot they did

[entrangermercenary]

very often there is a lull
once uve got some scoff down your throat, drinks and weapons cleaned and may be nocked a few zzs out
u'd hav time to do wot they did


Any more straws left ??

So once we have done the above then what? Rotation to relieve the troops at the very front. Pushing on, more house to house, searching for documents, moving, hoping your own artillery , air force don't bomb you. The amount of adrenalin flowing through you ffs . That's how it is. Whats your experience then??

[jesuitsdidit]

Any more straws left ??

So once we have done the above then what? Rotation to relieve the troops at the very front. Pushing on, more house to house, searching for documents, moving, hoping your own artillery , air force don't bomb you. The amount of adrenalin flowing through you ffs . That's how it is. Whats your experience then??

why did the family lay the table for breakfast outside if there was the scenario u r describing surely that suggests calm
then they moved the body to higher ground and 'had a party for an hour using the body as a target'
this also suggests they were not in a battle-field situation wdnt u say??

[entrangermercenary]

why did the family lay the table for breakfast outside if there was the scenario u r describing surely that suggests calm
then they moved the body to higher ground and 'had a party for an hour using the body as a target'
this also suggests they were not in a battle-field situation wdnt u say??

Lol thats the whole point !!

They set up breakfast in the garden after enduring days of heavy Israeli bombardment . Nice lets have a fucking picnic in a war zone eh !

So it wouldn't occur to them that the Israeli bombardment would/could start again at any time. Would they not be thinking Israeli ground troops may be arriving soon?? Would they not b thinking fuck , what about any cluster bombs , unexploded ordinance in the back yard. Or would they be thinking quick its stopped lets have some breaky outside while its quiet ??

Are you going to deny propaganda is being used by both sides ?? This stinks of 1 example of it. So you believe every bit of info to come out of this conflict from both sides ( or just 1 ) and never question it, and take it at face value??

Again u say they moved a body to higher ground and had a party. Lol its not like John Wayne/Rambo films when doing ops. I don't think you quite understand how draining it is.

[always_rebel]

They set up breakfast in the garden after enduring days of heavy Israeli bombardment . Nice lets have a fucking picnic in a war zone eh !

"Blame the vicitm" technique at its best. How nice.

War zone? Hmm, thought there was a cease fire or something.

[orderoutofchaos]

Grow up and look at the source document, its written by the Iraqi resistance with nothing to substantiate it. Now I wonder why they would be keen to print such anti-Israeli stories. I am just amazed that people are sucking it up, all these supposed conspiracy theorists who think they can see through what is going on in the world. Looks to me that they cant tell when they have been duped. The fact is that they WANT to believe it is true because it is an attack on Israel. For them belief is enough and asking for proof means you are a zionist.

Think you are some big man threatening people? fucking keyboard warrior.

Are you a Jew?

[entrangermercenary]

"Blame the vicitm" technique at its best. How nice.

War zone? Hmm, thought there was a cease fire or something.

Correct there is a ceasfire

[ex sheep]

Lol thats the whole point !!

They set up breakfast in the garden after enduring days of heavy Israeli bombardment . Nice lets have a fucking picnic in a war zone eh !

So it wouldn't occur to them that the Israeli bombardment would/could start again at any time. Would they not be thinking Israeli ground troops may be arriving soon?? Would they not b thinking fuck , what about any cluster bombs , unexploded ordinance in the back yard. Or would they be thinking quick its stopped lets have some breaky outside while its quiet ??

Are you going to deny propaganda is being used by both sides ?? This stinks of 1 example of it. So you believe every bit of info to come out of this conflict from both sides ( or just 1 ) and never question it, and take it at face value??

Again u say they moved a body to higher ground and had a party. Lol its not like John Wayne/Rambo films when doing ops. I don't think you quite understand how draining it is.

Are you that fuckin stupid that you do not know what is going on in this world.

If you are, then I pray for you.

and I love you.

[entrangermercenary]

Are you that fuckin stupid that you do not know what is going on in this world.

If you are, then I pray for you.

and I love you.

So u wd go out in the garden for brekkie in a war zone eh?? Nice stroll on the beach while the Isrealis are pounding it with naval gunfire.

When was the last time you were in a war zone?? Did you come out of your house and have breakfast??

[ex sheep]

So u wd go out in the garden for brekkie in a war zone eh?? Nice stroll on the beach while the Isrealis are pounding it with naval gunfire.

When was the last time you were in a war zone?? Did you come out of your house and have breakfast??

In a war zone as you have put it, which probably you have never been in,

forget it you cannot imagine.

They were trying to have a bit of stability in there lives.

FO

[jesuitsdidit]

A Sunny Day

Nothing in the day prepared the Awaga family for the tragic twist of events that unfolded.

They woke up to a sunny morning after days of being locked in one small room to escape the massive Israeli bombardment.

"Mom, let's have our breakfast out in the garden. I'm tired of staying in this room," the grieved mother recalls Ibrahim's plea.

An hour later, the table was set in the garden and the family was hoping to enjoy rare moments of peace, unaware of the eyes watching them from a distance.

A first missile stole the family's job before another destroyed their house.

"Dad, I am dying," cried Ibrahim to his father who rushed frantically to his side.

"Hurry, let's go," Awaga told his wife and two other children while carrying bleeding Ibrahim.

But even before they could reach the gate, a flood of bullets showered them.

One bullet hit the mother's leg and another hit the father's waist.

Ibrahim's two frightened brothers ran for cover behind the rubbles of their bombed-out house.

this is how i see it
heavy israeli bombardment 4 several days
a quiet day n night (maybe more)
ok, the worst is over, can we hav b'fast o/side?
yes.
didnt realise being watched by/ in range of group of psycopathic out-of -control Israeli idiots
idiots decide fun to spoil their b'fast
idiots fire missile into house
b'fast stops
all dead
Israelis laugh..?

[entrangermercenary]

Israeli Butchers Use Dead 9-year-old Boy as Target Practice


"Dad, I'm Dying"
Ola Attallah, IOL Correspondent

Jan 15, 2009

GAZA CITY — "Dad, I'm dying."

The words keep echoing in Kamal Awaga's ears, sending jolts of pain into his feeble, wounded body.

These were the last words uttered by his 9-year-old son, Ibrahim, before he ended up as a practicing target for Israeli soldiers.

"They killed my son in cold blood," says the grief-stricken father, still in a state of shock.

Ibrahim joined more than 350 children killed by Israel in its three-week onslaught on the coastal enclave.

But while others fell victim to killer bullets or deadly bombs, Ibrahim's fate was even more tragic.

He became a shooting practice for a squad of Israeli soldiers.

"The Israelis did not show mercy for his innocence," said his tearful father from his bed at the Al-Shefa hospital in Gaza City.

"They had no pity for his tiny body," added the heart-broken father.

A Sunny Day

Nothing in the day prepared the Awaga family for the tragic twist of events that unfolded.

They woke up to a sunny morning after days of being locked in one small room to escape the massive Israeli bombardment.

"Mom, let's have our breakfast out in the garden. I'm tired of staying in this room," the grieved mother recalls Ibrahim's plea.

An hour later, the table was set in the garden and the family was hoping to enjoy rare moments of peace, unaware of the eyes watching them from a distance.

A first missile stole the family's job before another destroyed their house.

"Dad, I am dying," cried Ibrahim to his father who rushed frantically to his side.

"Hurry, let's go," Awaga told his wife and two other children while carrying bleeding Ibrahim.

But even before they could reach the gate, a flood of bullets showered them.

One bullet hit the mother's leg and another hit the father's waist.

Ibrahim's two frightened brothers ran for cover behind the rubbles of their bombed-out house.

Shooting Practice

As the firing died down, the family thought their misery was over. But the Israeli soldiers were not finished yet.

"When the soldiers came closer, I thought they will kill me," said Awaga who faked being dead.

"But they were aiming at my young child," he said choking at the bitter memory.

One soldier came close to Ibrahim's body, turning him by his leg and laughing while another fired his gun to the dead boy's head.

Laughs got louder as they carried the body to a higher place to start their party.

For a whole hour, the father hushed his cries of pain as he watched the Israeli soldiers compete in sniping on his dead son's body.

"They were using his bullet-ridden, bleeding body as a shooting practice.

"With each bullet, they were humming with words I could not figure out, but it sounded full of rapture. It was as if they were celebrating."

When they finally had enough "practicing," the Israelis took their guns and left the house.

Four complete days passed before emergency doctors were able to find their way to the family and rush them to hospital.

"What did my son do to deserve that?" Awaga asks, shaking his head in disbelief.

"The Israelis killed my kid, not once or twice but a thousand times."

http://uruknet.info/?p=m50891&hd=&size=1&l=e

Now what really bothers me was he faked dead .

A man of fighting age don't you think the Israelis would put a couple in his head just to make sure, as he was more of a threat than a 9 yr old boy?? Hes playing dead so lying on his stomach face in the dirt I'm guessing. So the Israelis wdnt check for weapons and documents. No they just leave him alone, a man in prime fighting age and concentrate on a little 9yr old, who cdnt fire a weapon accurately or throw a grenade more than 20 ft !!

So both the mother and dad have been shot by 7.62 or 5.56 calibre weapons.

4 complete days passed before the medics got to them.So Who administered the 1st aid to these people. Applied dressings, gave morphine ?? So we have to people shot and not bleeding to death over 4 days !!

What happend to the 2 brothers who ran behind the rubble?? Don't you think the Isreali soldiers may just have had a little peek behind just to make sure Hamas fighters were not lurking. Im sure they would of preferred live targets to the dead boy so why were they not captured and killed??

[white knight]

It's very sad to read this but I know that the child has gone to a much better place.

Can you even imagine how a human being could do this to a 9 year old child in cold blood?...most people would bring up their lunch!

These are acts of desperation by a spiritually dead army.

I say good luck to these poor Israeli's, they're going to need all the help they can get.