I found an RFID chip in a pouch of cat food

[steppewar]

This is NOT a humour thread. Yesterday I opened a pouch of Sainsbury's salmon cat food, and when I was putting it in the bowl I discovered a strange small object.

I was going to send it to Sainsbury's with a letter of complaint, as it was small enough for my cat to swallow.

However, after doing some research I am convinced the object is an RFID chip.

Now I am wondering, how or why it ended up in there. I am also asking if there is any way to scan the information on the chip.

2 pictures below of it, plus a link to a site about RFID chips.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2894/rfidchipfz4.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7695/component2rq6.jpg

http://endtimesworldnews.punt.nl/?r=1&id=459777

[cafetimes1991]

That's quite incredible, but I'm inclined to believe you.
It looks like one to me, which is sickening.
And I would love to hear how Sainsburys would explain it away.

[shottie]

This is NOT a humour thread. Yesterday I opened a pouch of Sainsbury's salmon cat food, and when I was putting it in the bowl I discovered a strange small object.

I was going to send it to Sainsbury's with a letter of complaint, as it was small enough for my cat to swallow.

However, after doing some research I am convinced the object is an RFID chip.

Now I am wondering, how or why it ended up in there. I am also asking if there is any way to scan the information on the chip.

2 pictures below of it, plus a link to a site about RFID chips.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2894/rfidchipfz4.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7695/component2rq6.jpg

http://endtimesworldnews.punt.nl/?r=1&id=459777

Seriously, i cant belive no one has posted!

I have heard that pet food is more healthy than human food.


Sick effin bastards!

[ozlo]

What worries me is what else are they in! I'm sure that there would be no benefit from chipping a cat but could well be them trying it out to see if anyone notices and complains.

[hey_jude]

Go to the supermarket auto scan and see what happens...

[mikethepunk]

Crazy!!!
It definitely looks like a chip.
You need to investigate this and open up some cans of worms so people can find out whats going on.
Contact the media if it is an RFID chip.

[boots]

Unbelievable.

I remember seeing a news item on Ickes Headlines that RFID's as small as a grain of rice and getting to the stage of putting it in our food.

Thanks for the post steppewar. I hope you wont mind, but I am debating with GS in the Illuminati section and this is very appropriate.

Sick bastard's:mad:

[kiwimaj]

My goodness!! That is simply outregous !! I am disgusted.

Another reason NOT to give your pets tinned food...animals are meant to consume RAW meat and veg NOT cooked, processed poisons. Since when was the last time you saw an animal in the wild fire up a barbi and cook it's kill??? Do cats catch birds and mice and cook them or do they eat them RAW...:rolleyes:

I am not having a go at the originator of this thread, this is just another good reason in my books to feed your pets fresh food, I think there is a deliberate agenda to not only make your pets ill (hence having to pay out vets' bills etc..) but also with the completely unnecessary jabs they get, the tinned food and the jabs are making pets SICK. Animals are getting human illnesses, which is a complete nonsence, animals should not get human illnesses, full stop !

[exmicrochipmafia]

Nuke the thing in the microwave and flush it.
That's what I did when I found one in a jacket I bought.
Track THAT you pricks.

[kiwimaj]

Crazy!!!
It definitely looks like a chip.
You need to investigate this and open up some cans of worms so people can find out whats going on.
Contact the media if it is an RFID chip.


YES, CONTACT THE MEDIA...though, thinking about it, the illuminati run media will make sure this story DOES NOT reach the masses, but give it a go !!..:mad:

[hey_jude]

If they put it in our food it's not going to stay tracking you is it!

It's going to show up eventually! :D

[mikethepunk]

If they put it in our food it's not going to stay tracking you is it!

It's going to show up eventually! :D

I believe there is a piece that dissolves and then the chip attaches to our insides, so it may not come out when you take a shit.

This could be an experiment that we don't know about being perpetrated on pets and humans.

[terrorble1]

Could have been from the actual animal that was used for the food, don't know if its even remotely possible for a chip to survive a meat processor but I can't see the logic in tracking a cat for a day before it takes a dump, unless it somehow attaches to the insides of the cat. Then so what who wants to track a cat?

If it was found in a pack of cornflakes it would be a different matter. Still ultimately pointless as most people carry a tracking device in their pockets everywhere they go anyway.

[thomps1d]

That is truly frightening. There is absolutely no excuse under any circumstances to include an RFID chip inside a bag of something meant to be consumed by any living organism. They can't even try to pretend that it's for anti-shoplifting or inventory logistics purposes - something like that could simply be attached to the bag itself.

This is something completely different - something with no good purpose at all.

[hey_jude]

You are kidding me, yeah?

[hey_jude]

I believe there is a piece that dissolves and then the chip attaches to our insides, so it may not come out when you take a shit.

This could be an experiment that we don't know about being perpetrated on pets and humans.

You are kidding me, yeah? WTF

[mikethepunk]

You are kidding me, yeah?

Nope.
In some of the documentaries/news reports about the RFID chip, they talk about how a piece of it dissolves then the chip attaches itself to your arm or another place in your body, depending on where it was placed, etc.

[informationx]

This is NOT a humour thread. Yesterday I opened a pouch of Sainsbury's salmon cat food, and when I was putting it in the bowl I discovered a strange small object.

I was going to send it to Sainsbury's with a letter of complaint, as it was small enough for my cat to swallow.

However, after doing some research I am convinced the object is an RFID chip.

Now I am wondering, how or why it ended up in there. I am also asking if there is any way to scan the information on the chip.

2 pictures below of it, plus a link to a site about RFID chips.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2894/rfidchipfz4.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7695/component2rq6.jpg

http://endtimesworldnews.punt.nl/?r=1&id=459777

You should definitely follow this up, and find answers. If you can find someone with an RFID reader, get a reading and see what the chip reveals.

Let us know what happens.

[hewrote]

you'll find an RFID chip in every new credit and debit card issued over here.

[illuminati downfall]

Normally an object found in a can or package, that should not be there, can be blamed on an employee in the processing plant accidentally losing it. this however would explain things like, pins, pencils, or perhaps even a small bolt from a machine.... But an RFID chip? :eek::confused: That's obviously not something that a factory worker would happen to have in his pocket or on his clothing, and happen to lose. I really think that if this was an accident, it was sure a strange one. it clearly seems like some was hoping some poor cat would swallow a chip. It's so tiny, I really don't think a cat would choke or anything, but still...

[hey_jude]

So, you're saying you could ingest the RFIDchip and then it could end up virtually anywhere in your body - like Andrew Collier found his?

[measle_weasel]

Nuke the thing in the microwave and flush it.
That's what I did when I found one in a jacket I bought.
Track THAT you pricks.

Id assume that if you got close enough to a strong EMF that the data, including internal programming, would be scambled beyond repair. Id also assume that a very strong magnet, like those three or four pounders that can crush your hand, would destroy the chips information. Anyone confirm this?

[fnulnu]

Incredible find Steppe.Don't destroy it,it's the most compelling piece of evidence yet.
Put it in a lead box or something,til someone with the right tech can read it.

Here's a photo slideshow how-to

http://www.instructables.com/id/SJAQPFRFE1M4V3Z/

How to block/kill RFID chips

Luckily RFID tag signals can easily be blocked. This means that you will have the option to use the tag whenever you want, and prevent others from being able to read it.

The signal sent out by a RFID tag is easily blocked by metal. This means that placing the RFID tag inside of a Faraday cage will prevent the information from being read.

There are already two Instructables on how to build RFID blocking containers:

[hey_jude]

I'm with you on that - don't destroy it.

It definately looks like the RFID chips I saw Henry Porter have one injected into himself and it was read with a supermarket hand held scanner.

It must have a bar code and info in it, maybe it's tracable?

I know I'll be even more careful with food now.

[croatiancoffee]

What would be the purpose of a cat having a chip? (if it is the one you speak of)

(any jokes about the cat being hungry will be banished into a room with my terrible jokes)

[steppewar]

I'm with you on that - don't destroy it.

It definately looks like the RFID chips I saw Henry Porter have one injected into himself and it was read with a supermarket hand held scanner.

It must have a bar code and info in it, maybe it's tracable?

I know I'll be even more careful with food now.

Do you think I should take it into Sainsbury's and ask them to scan it?

I was thinking about taking it to a vet's practice and asking them to do it?

[informationx]

Do you think I should take it into Sainsbury's and ask them to scan it?

I was thinking about taking it to a vet's practice and asking them to do it?

Yes see what happens. Good luck.:D

[measle_weasel]

Do you think I should take it into Sainsbury's and ask them to scan it?

I was thinking about taking it to a vet's practice and asking them to do it?

What if it comes up with the information from another cat?! I would switch cat foods quick if that were the case :eek:

[hey_jude]

Do you think I should take it into Sainsbury's and ask them to scan it?

I was thinking about taking it to a vet's practice and asking them to do it?

Yes, the Vets is a good idea. Actually I'm sure the vets would be better as they read animal chips all the time. Proper facilities to show you the result on screen.
I think it's great you found it! :)

[hey_jude]

what if it comes up with the information from another cat?! I would switch cat foods quick if that were the case :eek:

:D

[notthisshitagain]

Go to the supermarket auto scan and see what happens...

Like in that XFiles episode where Scully scanned her implant chip at a supermarket and the machine went crazy?

[danster82]

You get this alot if you unravel a Gillette packet you will see the rfid patch on the cardboard.

[metacomet]

I'll be honest...

I assumed I have already swallowed or been injected with a chip already.

We all have.

I assume this... hopefully I'm wrong.

On that note: this is a shocking thread, but I'm not shocked. :(

[polveirbecker]

Because of the poster I’m taking this claim 50 / 50 as this poster is well known for starting threads about his life to provoke some reaction. Tell you what Steppe can you please post another picture up with your name on the piece of paper proving its you!

Also mate you must lead us all in this and push yourself forward. Rather than scare mongering people on here!

[ritchs]

I believe there is a piece that dissolves and then the chip attaches to our insides, so it may not come out when you take a shit.

This could be an experiment that we don't know about being perpetrated on pets and humans.

If that's so, then it's not too far to think they could chip people through cereal breakfast food. I feel that if they wanted, they could use nanotechnology to get things done without our ever knowing, especially with shots at clinics.

But, just say your cat or even you ingested such a chip. What would that accomplish? They wouldn't know who in particular ate it. They would not know it was even a human (unless you wag your tail :)) I dunno, any other ideas?

(Shit, now I'm gonna read up on this stuff, especially the covert angles)
:eek: I'm suspicious by nature after discovering all this nwo stuff, not ready for a tin foil hat yet though.:D

[steppewar]

Because of the poster I’m taking this claim 50 / 50 as this poster is well known for starting threads about his life to provoke some reaction. Tell you what Steppe can you please post another picture up with your name on the piece of paper proving its you!

Also mate you must lead us all in this and push yourself forward. Rather than scare mongering people on here!

Here is the proof you doubting Thomas

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9798/component31oh3.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2963/component4zk1.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8035/component5em3.jpg

[tiamet2012]

auto mach chip silly!

[thelyran]

...Probably one of the most revealing threads you have begun,no,I'm not criticizing your more humourous types,quite enjoy them without sarcasm or ridicule...think you're a scream and generally nice bloke.
What I want you to do Steppewar,is investigate the owners and transnationalist who own the pet food products and see if there is cross ownership in Technological and Military products as well.What MikethePunk
said is true,they do attach them selves to the insides of bodies.
It would be a shock to find,maybe the theory of using our beloved companions as a form of listening devices is both demonic and criminal.
And you are openly anti-NWO and promote ideas that go against their agendas.
When one lives alone,does'nt work,has no distractions with human relationships,you are afforded one aspect others do not...you get to notice everything...so I do understand the impact this revealtion had upon you...
...I'll tell you something weird,don't laugh...friend of mine sold drugs...he was paranoid of moths...there was this weird one he thought had a micro-camera on it...he pointed it out,I went to catch it...and a flash,like a small explosion
happened...when I picked it up,it had no abdomen and burnt scorch marks...
weird I know and have no idea what was the truth...

[fnulnu]

http://www.pet-detect.com/products_list.php?category=1

http://www.pet-detect.com/user_files/chip%20copy_2.jpg

[thelyran]

...it could be a chip designed to make the cat like just that type of food too...
just thought of that...regards.

[smariot]

Okay, so it's an RFID chip.

So, why is it in the pet food? Eating it surely isn't the best way to use it. Or is the pet food made out of recycled pets?

[armoured_amazon]

could well be them trying it out to see if anyone notices and complains.

That's what I think too. It's disgusting. I'm going to scrutinise my food (and my cats' food!) from now on. There's no limit to the sick m.o. of those twisted a-holes.

:mad:

[jayla]

What would be the purpose of a cat having a chip? (if it is the one you speak of)

(any jokes about the cat being hungry will be banished into a room with my terrible jokes)

I am seriously wondering if it is an experiment to see if they could eventually be used in food for human consumption. Lets face it, they usually use animals at the beginning of their experiments. If THIS doesn't work, they could "tweak" the chip and make it more "digestable.

[the itinerant shrubber]

This thread should be at the top of the page! But even the so-called "awake" are addicted to Jade Goody...:rolleyes:

As far as I can tell,it's something similar to or actually is the Verichip. A typical RFID chip is square sometimes with with tiny prongs coming out of it-like a little square spider-the ones inside your credit cards.
Any more developments on this Steppenwar?

[helloperator]

There's 4 explanations:

1. The cat food company needs more information on what cats do...how many chews before swallow, how many dumps in a day, cat temperatures, general feline activities

2. It's some small piece of machinery related to the cat food plant

3. It's a human micro chip that someone who works for the cat company sliced out of his own body and threw into the cat mix before the illuminati disinfo agent vatican assasign new world order rothschild drug running police state stomping on the head of humanity forever soldiers could grab him and ask him what he knows about cat food production.

4. They make the cat food out of cats

[armoured_amazon]

There's 4 explanations:

1. The cat food company needs more information on what cats do...how many chews before swallow, how many dumps in a day, cat temperatures, general feline activities

2. It's some small piece of machinery related to the cat food plant

3. It's a human micro chip that someone who works for the cat company sliced out of his own body and threw into the cat mix before the illuminati disinfo agent vatican assasign new world order rothschild drug running police state stomping on the head of humanity forever soldiers could grab him and ask him what he knows about cat food production.

4. They make the cat food out of cats

Numbers 3 and 4!!!!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/sweeswee2003/stuff/82t4hnt.jpg

[grachtengordel]

You get this alot if you unravel a Gillette packet you will see the rfid patch on the cardboard.

different kind of chip. the flat chips they use in razor blade packs and credit cards are different. This is undoubtably a chip to go INSIDE a living creature.

[grachtengordel]

...I'll tell you something weird,don't laugh...friend of mine sold drugs...he was paranoid of moths...there was this weird one he thought had a micro-camera on it...he pointed it out,I went to catch it...and a flash,like a small explosion
happened...when I picked it up,it had no abdomen and burnt scorch marks...
weird I know and have no idea what was the truth...

what drugs was he selling? powders? herbs?

[kiwimaj]

...Probably one of the most revealing threads you have begun,no,I'm not criticizing your more humourous types,quite enjoy them without sarcasm or ridicule...think you're a scream and generally nice bloke.
What I want you to do Steppewar,is investigate the owners and transnationalist who own the pet food products and see if there is cross ownership in Technological and Military products as well.What MikethePunk
said is true,they do attach them selves to the insides of bodies.
It would be a shock to find,maybe the theory of using our beloved companions as a form of listening devices is both demonic and criminal. And you are openly anti-NWO and promote ideas that go against their agendas.
When one lives alone,does'nt work,has no distractions with human relationships,you are afforded one aspect others do not...you get to notice everything...so I do understand the impact this revealtion had upon you...
...I'll tell you something weird,don't laugh...friend of mine sold drugs...he was paranoid of moths...there was this weird one he thought had a micro-camera on it...he pointed it out,I went to catch it...and a flash,like a small explosion
happened...when I picked it up,it had no abdomen and burnt scorch marks...
weird I know and have no idea what was the truth...


See my thread...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44913&highlight=furry+spies

:D

[duckandcover]

Every cat should have one , it would put my mind at rest next time im eating my chinese takeaway :D

[citroen999]

dont believe you.. the picture looks suss..:confused:

[snoop]

its just a tracking chip used for pets can get them anywhere you have all been duped
see link http://www.pet-detect.com/products_list.php?category=1

sorry if it was true and you found it in cat food the reason behind that would be for tptb to test to see if it works on living things after consumption . Idk anything is possible .to me tho it just seems sus that someone who comes on these boards often finds an RFID tag little bit of a coincidence i think , also if they put them in pet food i am sure there would be loads and some other pet owner would of found one . That is my 2 cents but thank you for getting me thinking

[arten]

If this is genuine then it is feinng outrageous if they are doing that to cats they could be doing it to us. The first thing to do is contact your local Trading Standards Officer the Supermarket will get a massive fine for selling a product that is contaminated. I would also get myself a good Lawyer and if you are on a low income then why not make an appeal both on here and in your local community. Get the local Animal Proytection groups involved like RSPCA in fact they will get you the Lawyer. Cats Protection league etc. These Twats have got to be stopped or we are all going to be chipped and that really does spell the end.

[fnulnu]

its just a tracking chip used for pets can get them anywhere you have all been duped
see link http://www.pet-detect.com/products_list.php?category=1

I posted the image from there ages back in the thread to prove it was an RFID chip (identical,infact).
From the site:
NOTE: You must have a valid Implanter Code to purchase chips

That kind of rules out Steppe "planting" it,don't you think?

I hope Steppe kicks up a stink and sues the b/tards.

[comawhite015]

What does it matter? The cat's just going to shit it straight out anyway.

[snoop]

I posted the image from there ages back in the thread to prove it was an RFID chip (identical,infact).
From the site:


That kind of rules out Steppe "planting" it,don't you think?

I hope Steppe kicks up a stink and sues the b/tards.
not if he knows a bloody vet!!!!!

[fnulnu]

not if he knows a bloody vet!!!!!

Wow,so cynical.I highly doubt a vet would risk being busted just so Steppe could wind us up (but,I'll happily be proven wrong.Infact,I wish it was just Steppe doing it for the lulz)

:)

[tom bombadil]

If you are worried then buy one of these;

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_nkwZRFIDQ20chipQ20readerQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZR4 0QQ_mdoZ

In uk.

or for big bussiness;
http://www.springcard.com/products/index.php

Look here first; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sjyVs5rOw4&feature=related

If you break the glass container (non-desolvable in any case) then you will find the same as what you find in a card. A chip, and an arial to pick-up frequencies that 'charge-up' and activate the chip and enable non-host or battery powering an option. In the same way a christal radio works, then so does this. It receives the power from the frequency looking for it.

It would be wise, I think, to believe that this is a question of tracking the user. If it was for tracking of packaging or theft then it could have been more easier to include it on the lable. For the case of the cat food, it is safe to assume that it was meant to be ingested by the cat....however; cats chew their food very reigorously in the wild cos they have to, and a wild moggy would have either discarded it or broken it. The cats at home however that have been dragged up on the crap that is in those things do not have to chew as hard, so they dont (experiance with cats here folks) bother to chew as much.

So why? That is the question. Why in cat food?

IMHO it is a tester to see if they, at their present size, can withstand the chewing of the cat. Also it would be wise to think that in the same area as where the cat food was sold, you will find teams of 'watchers' that with a more powerfull version of the transmiter/reciver are watching for 'signs' of use and will form an oppinion of its distribution effectiveness.


For intrested parties; start here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cufZ9l7cibU&feature=related

or here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BT6MU3gH80&feature=related



Tom.

[steppewar]

dont believe you.. the picture looks suss..:confused:

Look at reply no 36. I posted a picture of the chip on my hand with my name written on it.

I believe that these things could easily be injested without humans or animals knowing it. The only reason why I noticed it in the 1st place is because I always scrutinize my cats food for impurities,gristly bits etc.

It was so small that when I first saw it I thought it was a used staple.

If it is true as someone said earlier that the component part of the chip stays in the body after ingesting it, then we are probably already microchipped.

[thelyran]

what drugs was he selling? powders? herbs?

...just herbs,and very good at that.But what he did with the money would blow your mind.He paid for 20 people to see Icke's second Newcastle show in
NSW Australia.He bought and lent a library of books,all esoteric and Illuminati in nature,make replicant videos,which he paid me to do for him,just to leave at bus stops...and other public places.The pot he bought was from a big
Freemason who drove to South Australia once a month or twice...and was funded by,get this,a member of the Rothchild family in Newcastle...
There's a thread,in Big brother I think...My Phone Clicks...this is the guy I'm talking about...he rings me up,just to test the Echelon surveillance machine...complete bonkers sometimes...but the weirdest things happened around me or him...
I really do believe the TPTB were watching both of us...he converted so many people,all rich elite university students...I remember,he picked this woman,Sally,because her grandfather was high up in freemasonary,he showed her the handshake,secret codes...and she went and shook his hand"Who Told You!"...he was very indignant about it...very cross.I found a book in his old house,hand written notes,during the 6th degree,they,The Masonic teachings discussed telepathy,and how to use it...at the 6th degree
what is at the 33rd...opening portals?...
Old Steve...never be another like him...when I first met him,I knew he was into it..this is 1997...I handed him a deck of cards,The Illuminati..."Jase,you're on my level"...I became his right hand man 1997-2002..
but another strange thing...light-bulbs and electrical equipment would explode
or fail around him all the time...no matter where he moved...

[ayomide]

What does it matter? The cat's just going to shit it straight out anyway.

Hahahaahahaha !!

:D

Poor animal would have been constipated:eek: had the owner not found the chip!!

[thelyran]

See my thread...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44913&highlight=furry+spies

:D

...I'll do that now,thanks Kiwimaj,woman of varying talents,I thought you were hung up on Astrology...Ok here goes and thankyou again

[backbeat]

The origin of the chip is most likely from a dead cat or dog that ended up as the contents of pet food. Pet food is totally unregulated and they will use any kind of junk meat including vetinary waste i.e. dead pets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHadGUXCf7I

An RFID chip can only be read at close range i.e < 1m or so. It would not be possible to track an RFID long range remotely.

Tescos and Sainsbury's were both testing the use of RFID for logistics purposes i.e. on palates etc. Tesco have gone further and implemented them in some test stores in order to capture photographs of customers buying certain products and tracking their movement around the store, Sainsbuy;s never went that far as far as I know.

Google "RFID Tesco" and "RFID Sainsburys".

[fnulnu]

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[devanshoom]

if i were you. if going to try publicize your find, i would start off maybe writing a few articles for local newspapers..the ones people get for free or a local evening weekly...chances are they will run the story without being censored by rupert murdoch...remember to write them yourself so u can put some NWO spin on them and state clearly that you didnt bother contacting a major newspaper as they are all controlled and only spout bullshit....if the stories get printed in some local rags then you will make a few quid to spend on a new home brewing kit...and also with a bit of luck some of the more major papers might pick up on it, just to piss you off cos you said they wouldnt run a story of that kind...but preferably in articles with a bit of your own spin..otherwise tell them to fuck off.

This is a major find...use it to its maximum opportunity.

[tom bombadil]

An RFID chip can only be read at close range i.e < 1m or so. It would not be possible to track an RFID long range remotely.

Not exactly backbeat. The reader can pick up a signal from affar if there are fewer reciver/transmiters (chips) in the area. Like you hearing a wisper in a quiet room but not in a noisy one. Also the frequency can differ from chip to chip (not by much yet) so a cat could be seen in a crowd of dogs, say. Also, as the chops increase in capassity, then the more info can be placed on them that can identify the chip.

The scenario that I put forward is that it is a tester at the mo.

This could also be a good reason for the radio frequencies of telly ect have been digitised, to get rid of the wheat from the chaff! There is no dout that it is crowded out there!!!


Tom.

[backbeat]

This is what most likely caused "feline AIDs"...I vaguely remember reading about the advent of CJD,in an Amazonian tribe (from memory) who ate their dead relatives brains (to honour them) aswell...

In Papua New Guinea they have the highest frequency of CJD anywhere in the world because many of the natives were head hunters who would eat the brains of their rivals. Eating your own kind, especially their brains ain't a good idea. :p

[the itinerant shrubber]

if i were you. if going to try publicize your find, i would start off maybe writing a few articles for local newspapers..the ones people get for free or a local evening weekly...chances are they will run the story without being censored by rupert murdoch...remember to write them yourself so u can put some NWO spin on them and state clearly that you didnt bother contacting a major newspaper as they are all controlled and only spout bullshit....if the stories get printed in some local rags then you will make a few quid to spend on a new home brewing kit...and also with a bit of luck some of the more major papers might pick up on it, just to piss you off cos you said they wouldnt run a story of that kind...but preferably in articles with a bit of your own spin..otherwise tell them to fuck off.

This is a major find...use it to its maximum opportunity.

Absoloutly! Ring up your local rag and explain that you think cat food may actually be CAT food. It's defiantly a sub-dermal RFID. Whatever the explanation,it's going to be a bizzare one.
Image google "pet microchip" and you can see that this had to of come from a domestic animal. You could make a tidy penny from this scandal.

[jesuitsdidit]

This is NOT a humour thread. Yesterday I opened a pouch of Sainsbury's salmon cat food, and when I was putting it in the bowl I discovered a strange small object.

I was going to send it to Sainsbury's with a letter of complaint, as it was small enough for my cat to swallow.

However, after doing some research I am convinced the object is an RFID chip.

Now I am wondering, how or why it ended up in there. I am also asking if there is any way to scan the information on the chip.

2 pictures below of it, plus a link to a site about RFID chips.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2894/rfidchipfz4.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7695/component2rq6.jpg

http://endtimesworldnews.punt.nl/?r=1&id=459777

looks like a chip to me..

[jesuitsdidit]

looks like a chip to me..

(RFID)
b4 the agents get dissembling..

[grachtengordel]

what he said.

just herbs? not the answer i wanted. hmmmm. maybe i wasn't being paranoid.
the freemason stuff is pretty strange tho, your freind could get some attention through that i guess, . thanks for posting.......illuminating.

[deafbred]

This is NOT a humour thread. Yesterday I opened a pouch of Sainsbury's salmon cat food, and when I was putting it in the bowl I discovered a strange small object.

I was going to send it to Sainsbury's with a letter of complaint, as it was small enough for my cat to swallow.

However, after doing some research I am convinced the object is an RFID chip.

Now I am wondering, how or why it ended up in there. I am also asking if there is any way to scan the information on the chip.

2 pictures below of it, plus a link to a site about RFID chips.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2894/rfidchipfz4.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7695/component2rq6.jpg

http://endtimesworldnews.punt.nl/?r=1&id=459777

you found the Golden Ticket

You Won a Prize but no seriously

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=788726&postcount=23

[jesuitsdidit]

(RFID)
b4 the agents get dissembling..

points

1. oh yes, u'll hav us talking about all kinds of chips wont u
potato chips
wood chips
chips off the old block
gambling chips
chipping stones
chipping norton
norton motorcycles
bmw motorcycles
pedal power
wind energy
wave energy
waving 2 yr friends
waving away disinfo agents
disinfo agents on forums
forums which discuss RFID chips
threads called 'I found an RFID chip in a pouch of cat food'

oh well it was so circuitous weve ended up back where we started..

2. did Sainsburys do this wittingly?

[grachtengordel]

An RFID chip can only be read at close range i.e < 1m or so. It would not be possible to track an RFID long range remotely.


is that because the chip is not 'powered' until it is 'read' by a 'reciever'?

could it be possible that the human body generates an electrical 'field' that can 'power' one of these chips?

In Papua New Guinea they have the highest frequency of CJD anywhere in the world because many of the natives were head hunters who would eat the brains of their rivals. Eating your own kind, especially their brains ain't a good idea.

surely you mean the ONLY known disease that occured in humans BEFORE the discovery of B.S.E. and C.J.D.

the 'brain disease' in papua new guinea you refer to was discovered long before BSE or CJD were thought to exist.

but a good point, generally.

[jesuitsdidit]

That's quite incredible, but I'm inclined to believe you.
It looks like one to me, which is sickening.
And I would love to hear how Sainsburys would explain it away.

u've come up on my agent monitor 4 the 39th time ct
will b watching you..

[rhydra]

A lot of pet food is manufactured in China, we have next to no regulations here in the west, I'm not sure how less regulated it is in China but there was a melamine contamination case in the US involving pet food imported from China. Many companies don't bother what they put in baby's milk, I'm pretty sure that feckless pet-food suppliers who only care about making money wouldn't bother about introducing the odd dead dog or cat into the ingredients. They know they face the death penalty for tainting human food, even that doesn't stop them, there won't be the same penalties for pet food.

[jesuitsdidit]

This is NOT a humour thread. Yesterday I opened a pouch of Sainsbury's salmon cat food, and when I was putting it in the bowl I discovered a strange small object.

I was going to send it to Sainsbury's with a letter of complaint, as it was small enough for my cat to swallow.

However, after doing some research I am convinced the object is an RFID chip.

Now I am wondering, how or why it ended up in there. I am also asking if there is any way to scan the information on the chip.

2 pictures below of it, plus a link to a site about RFID chips.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2894/rfidchipfz4.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7695/component2rq6.jpg

http://endtimesworldnews.punt.nl/?r=1&id=459777

keep it safe and def take loads a fotos of it..

[jesuitsdidit]

keep it safe and def take loads a fotos of it..

i wd show it to at least one trusted friend so uve got witness..

[jesuitsdidit]

I remember seeing a news item on Ickes Headlines that RFID's as small as a grain of rice and getting to the stage of putting it in our food.

well u r observant rnt u
thats wot icke's known for..

[grachtengordel]

A lot of pet food is manufactured in China, we have next to no regulations here in the west, I'm not sure how less regulated it is in China but there was a melamine contamination case in the US involving pet food imported from China. Many companies don't bother what they put in baby's milk, I'm pretty sure that feckless pet-food suppliers who only care about making money wouldn't bother about introducing the odd dead dog or cat into the ingredients. They know they face the death penalty for tainting human food, even that doesn't stop them, there won't be the same penalties for pet food.

so you are saying that you think it likely came from a cat or dog that ended up in food? do you think many chinese people have thier pets chipped? I thought it wasn't even that common here to have chipped pets. why would it be so common in china to have chipped pets?

[jesuitsdidit]

I remember seeing a news item on Ickes Headlines that RFID's as small as a grain of rice and getting to the stage of putting it in our food.


youve just slowed the discussion down to 3mph boots but dont worry about it..
as if u wd
oam (on agent monitor)

we all remember icke discussing RFID, not potato, chips
thats y we r here.. dont u think?

hard at work dissembling r we??

[jesuitsdidit]

My goodness!! That is simply outregous !! I am disgusted.

Another reason NOT to give your pets tinned food...animals are meant to consume RAW meat and veg NOT cooked, processed poisons. Since when was the last time you saw an animal in the wild fire up a barbi and cook it's kill??? Do cats catch birds and mice and cook them or do they eat them RAW...:rolleyes:

I am not having a go at the originator of this thread, this is just another good reason in my books to feed your pets fresh food, I think there is a deliberate agenda to not only make your pets ill (hence having to pay out vets' bills etc..) but also with the completely unnecessary jabs they get, the tinned food and the jabs are making pets SICK. Animals are getting human illnesses, which is a complete nonsence, animals should not get human illnesses, full stop !

oam

[polveirbecker]

Here is the proof you doubting Thomas

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9798/component31oh3.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2963/component4zk1.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8035/component5em3.jpg

Ok I’m sure you can tolerate my doubt. You could have had someone much worse onto you! I was nearly in tears last night thinking my cat might have a chip in him.

Cheers for your tolerance!

[jesuitsdidit]

Nuke the thing in the microwave and flush it.
That's what I did when I found one in a jacket I bought.
Track THAT you pricks.

ooo dodgy response
get rid of the proof

found 1 in a jacket yeah right
def oam

[jesuitsdidit]

YES, CONTACT THE MEDIA...though, thinking about it, the illuminati run media will make sure this story DOES NOT reach the masses, but give it a go !!..:mad:

oh we'll follow u into battle any day km..

[jesuitsdidit]

If they put it in our food it's not going to stay tracking you is it!

It's going to show up eventually! :D

wot the fuck does that mean
oam

[jesuitsdidit]

Could have been from the actual animal that was used for the food, don't know if its even remotely possible for a chip to survive a meat processor but I can't see the logic in tracking a cat for a day before it takes a dump, unless it somehow attaches to the insides of the cat. Then so what who wants to track a cat?

If it was found in a pack of cornflakes it would be a different matter. Still ultimately pointless as most people carry a tracking device in their pockets everywhere they go anyway.

or maybe it fell out of the nose of 1 of the workers..

[thelyran]

just herbs? not the answer i wanted. hmmmm. maybe i wasn't being paranoid.
the freemason stuff is pretty strange tho, your freind could get some attention through that i guess, . thanks for posting.......illuminating.

...you were looking for the amphetamine connection...

[jesuitsdidit]

You are kidding me, yeah?

oam

[jesuitsdidit]

You are kidding me, yeah? WTF

oh yeah hi mtp, do u like me??

[rhydra]

so you are saying that you think it likely came from a cat or dog that ended up in food? do you think many chinese people have thier pets chipped? I thought it wasn't even that common here to have chipped pets. why would it be so common in china to have chipped pets?

The Chinese have pets like everyone else, there are plenty of middle class people in China who live like we do. Sometimes however, there is a purge on dogs, the state bans dogs and cats from certain areas of certain cities sometimes citing diseases such as rabies or bird flu. Many people comply. Those who do comply will be the ones who's pets are in the system and already traceable so it is probably more likely that chipped pets will end up, sadly, "in the supply chain."
Of course, there is also the downturn in the economy, many people won't feel as they can afford to look after their pet, they are either abandoned to fend for themselves and end up being picked up or are taken to be "disposed of."

[jesuitsdidit]

you'll find an RFID chip in every new credit and debit card issued over here.

oo that might move the discussion off centre a bit wdur?

[jesuitsdidit]

So, you're saying you could ingest the RFIDchip and then it could end up virtually anywhere in your body - like Andrew Collier found his?

who's Andrew Collier

[grachtengordel]

The Chinese have pets like everyone else, there are plenty of middle class people in China who live like we do. Sometimes however, there is a purge on dogs, the state bans dogs and cats from certain areas of certain cities sometimes citing diseases such as rabies or bird flu. Many people comply. Those who do comply will be the ones who's pets are in the system and already traceable so it is probably more likely that chipped pets will end up, sadly, "in the supply chain."
Of course, there is also the downturn in the economy, many people won't feel as they can afford to look after their pet, they are either abandoned to fend for themselves and end up being picked up or are taken to be "disposed of."

but do they chip their pets? why assume that it is more common than here. i don't know anyone with chipped pets in U.K.

who's Andrew Collier

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Andrew+Collier&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

[grachtengordel]

youve just slowed the discussion down to 3mph boots but dont worry about it..
as if u wd
oam (on agent monitor)

we all remember icke discussing RFID, not potato, chips
thats y we r here.. dont u think?

hard at work dissembling r we??

give it a rest. are you on something today?

[shottie]

the chips may require some form of stimulus to activate/power, perhaps they need fuel i.e. oxygen from the blood, perhaps blood itself.

You should buy a microscope or give it to some one who can analise it etc.

Try and find out what they are really capable of!

[sade]

I have trouble believing the starter of this thread for various reasons,
but if this is true...I would send those images to the company that makes the cat food,
demand them to give me an answer on WHY there is a chip in the cats food and then after getting the answer,
I would send the email with the images to different newspapers and etc.

Then again, I doubt the starter of this thread will do anything. : )

[polveirbecker]

It wouldn’t surprise me if half the population of England have chips in them. David Icke IMO or someone else influential in the fight against the New World Order needs to do a road show throughout the country where people walk into a tent and a trusted doctor checks if their have microchips in them.

It’s the first time I’ve been worried about anything in a long time and I want my body checked out so that come whatever time it maybe these chips won’t result in the change of human behaviour. You’ve seen how they control rats yeah?

[polveirbecker]

I have trouble believing the starter of this thread for various reasons,
but if this is true...I would send those images to the company that makes the cat food,
demand them to give me an answer on WHY there is a chip in the cats food and then after getting the answer,
I would send the email with the images to different newspapers and etc.

Then again, I doubt the starter of this thread will do anything. : )

He does need to step up. Will he carry on been a keyboard warrior or will we see the person who really kick starts the war against RDF chips.

[fnulnu]

He does need to step up. Will he carry on been a keyboard warrior or will we see the person who really kick starts the war against RDF chips.

It could be the making of him.Go on Steppe.Do for the RFID chips what you've done for health-destroying light bulbs.

[sade]

Ladies and gentleman, I present you:

DEBUNKED!

(By me. Of course. ;))

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4386/debunkedgu6.jpg

And how did he write his name around the chip?
I suspect a tablet. The coloring of the writing looks like something done with a black brush and a writing/drawing tablet.

And the hand-picture? That looks real!
Indeed, because it seems to be.
But it's not the same chip as in the "proof" image.
The coloring of the head inside the chip is green.
These can be bought on ebay, like someone earlier said.

Trust your instincts. That is the lesson.

[ayomide]

PMSL :D

His cat shat out the f**king thing!! Bloody animal was constipated. It wasn't found in the food!! His cat shat it out!!
LMFAO

[informationx]

Ladies and gentleman, I present you:

DEBUNKED!

(By me. Of course. ;))

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4386/debunkedgu6.jpg

And how did he write his name around the chip?
I suspect a tablet. The coloring of the writing looks like something done with a black brush and a writing/drawing tablet.

And the hand-picture? That looks real!
Indeed, because it seems to be.
But it's not the same chip as in the "proof" image.
The coloring of the head inside the chip is green.
These can be bought on ebay, like someone earlier said.

Trust your instincts. That is the lesson.

Youve not debunked a thing.

[thelyran]

Ladies and gentleman, I present you:


(By me. Of course. ;))



And how did he write his name around the chip?
I suspect a tablet. The coloring of the writing looks like something done with a black brush and a writing/drawing tablet.

And the hand-picture? That looks real!
Indeed, because it seems to be.
But it's not the same chip as in the "proof" image.
The coloring of the head inside the chip is green.
These can be bought on ebay, like someone earlier said.

Trust your instincts. That is the lesson.

...post 36,you debunked nothing,but revealed how much you covet the attention Steppewar got...you also revealed your dark heart....
congratualtions

[fnulnu]

Here's a real RFID fanboy,no hope for him at all.Dammit,if they're on ebay,they'll be everywhere,completely unrestricted.

i have put them in everything i own , tv laptop, kids ds, dvd player, bikes, phones even my dog!!! these chips hold a code number that when registered to you will let the police know what ever they are in/ on belongs to you. there are over 3500 scanners held and used by the police alone in the UK and more and more police forces around the world are updating their own forces with them so these chips can be used all over the world. Crime is on the up and we need to be doing something to stop our prize possessions being stolen offers accepted and buy it now as well and will even drop off or meet with you if you live in Manchester or the north west

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/security-chips-rfid-security-tags-secure-anything_W0QQitemZ320338564597QQcmdZViewItemQQptZU K_CCTV?hash=item320338564597&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18

[ThierryHenry]

I am seriously wondering if it is an experiment to see if they could eventually be used in food for human consumption. Lets face it, they usually use animals at the beginning of their experiments. If THIS doesn't work, they could "tweak" the chip and make it more "digestable.

sounds spot on

[steppewar]

Ladies and gentleman, I present you:

DEBUNKED!

(By me. Of course. ;))

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4386/debunkedgu6.jpg

And how did he write his name around the chip?
I suspect a tablet. The coloring of the writing looks like something done with a black brush and a writing/drawing tablet.

And the hand-picture? That looks real!
Indeed, because it seems to be.
But it's not the same chip as in the "proof" image.
The coloring of the head inside the chip is green.
These can be bought on ebay, like someone earlier said.

Trust your instincts. That is the lesson.

I knew it would be difficult to convince some people of the reality of this.

It looks like that because it's not a photo.

It was done on my scanner to try and get a clearer picture.

I've attached two more pics done with a camera to prove it's real.

Then you can debunk your own debunk.

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1572/component9ah2.jpg

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5929/component8uo1.jpg

[ThierryHenry]

OK Sade, good try.

I was with you but then I thought: why write on your hand above a real chip and then use a computer to write above the chip on a piece of paper?

Why not just write on the paper itself?

SO THE VERDICT:

I couldn't give a fuck. We probably are getting chipped on the sly. Whatever. I just haven't got the resources in me to be getting stressed out about every fucking thing that they're doing to control us (which is by the way, everything).

So Steppewar: unless you're gonna do something about it you might as well let this thread lie- thanks for the awareness though. And Sade: thanks for watching out for the forum. Appreciated. You were probably wrong though

Im off to go have some dinner in private.

Oh wait...

[sade]

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3971/debunkedanzl4.gif

Scanner, huh? I thought when you scan a pic you get a hazy-grey background in every pic,
not clear white that looks like a picture taken with a camera.
But WHY copy the original image of the chip and rotate it?

You do have a chip, Im not saying you don't,
but so do a lot of other people and they don't come with cat-food. :)

I don't have a problem saying Im wrong, which is something a lot of people here do seem to have a problem with...
But since you do seem to have a chip and you are stating it came with cat-food, then what the hell are you waiting?
Call the company and demand for an answer. Don't waste your time.

[hey_jude]

Quoting out of context jesuitsdidit is misleading. We were discussing the Cat eating and digesting the RFID chip and my comment was in effect saying "as natures way it will turn up eventually" in cat pooh.

Removing my quote and placing it several pages away... Get over yourself, your own comments slowed the thread. Just because some of us aren't writing what you would write doesn't make our comments wrong or Agents.

wot the fuck does that mean
oam

Who asked you anyway!

[grachtengordel]

I was with you but then I thought: why write on your hand above a real chip and then use a computer to write above the chip on a piece of paper?
Why not just write on the paper itself?

good detective work detective

I just haven't got the resources in me to be getting stressed out about every fucking thing that they're doing to control us (which is by the way, everything).

"resources"? there you go with the cop-speak again

So Steppewar: unless you're gonna do something about it you might as well let this thread lie- thanks for the awareness though.

"let this thread lie" ?????? WHY would anyone post something like that?

are you concerned over the length of topics on this particular forum?

[thelyran]

Gratchen...it was a combined attempt to marginalise Steppewar and kill the thread...when they were exposed...loss of interest.But no apology to Steppe
Honourable people admit their mistakes and apologise...they offer feel good videos on one-hand to woo the masses,but target individuals on the other as a vent for their bile.True spiritual people say "Universal love To All"...not to who I feel like at the time...just an observation.

[notthisshitagain]

Quoting out of context jesuitsdidit is misleading. We were discussing the Cat eating and digesting the RFID chip and my comment was in effect saying "as natures way it will turn up eventually" in cat pooh.

Removing my quote and placing it several pages away... Get over yourself, your own comments slowed the thread. Just because some of us aren't writing what you would write doesn't make our comments wrong or Agents.

Who asked you anyway!

Well dear get your helmet cause now he's gonna whine about you being an Agent and that you're gonna kill him when he goes down to the pub or whatever the fuck...

And about the chip.. I'm also starting to wonder if I have one in my body.. but then again, maybe I got rid of it and didn't realize it...http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/154/sillyfacexo2.jpg

[ritchs]

If you are worried then buy one of these;

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_nkwZRFIDQ20chipQ20readerQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZR4 0QQ_mdoZ

In uk.

or for big bussiness;
http://www.springcard.com/products/index.php

For intrested parties; start here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cufZ9l7cibU&feature=related

or here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BT6MU3gH80&feature=related



Tom.

Thanks good information here!

[xaroz]

@Sade

It seems to me that you are one of few people here who still hasn't lost his/her mind.

How the "proof" provided by Steppeware can be taken seriously by anyone, is beyond me. Especially in the age of photoshopping...
Really people, how does posting a picture of a hand with some internet nick on it, prove anything??

I guess NOW is a nice time to mention a word like sheeple....

[tusme]

This thread should be at the top of the page! But even the so-called "awake" are addicted to Jade Goody...:rolleyes:

As far as I can tell,it's something similar to or actually is the Verichip. A typical RFID chip is square sometimes with with tiny prongs coming out of it-like a little square spider-the ones inside your credit cards.
Any more developments on this Steppenwar?
Hmm, interesting...!?

Seems now, the "so-called awaken" have justification for being "addicted to Jade Goody"...don't you think!? :)

[harris999]

Hmm, while it could be one of those chips. Anything is possible nowadays.

It does look alot like something you use while fishing at night. You put it on your float, "break" it and it glows in the dark. So you can see it at night.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fishing-Float-Night-Glow-Sticks-50-w-sleeves_W0QQitemZ260329348666QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK _SportingGoods_FishingAcces_RL?hash=item2603293486 66&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A2%7C 240%3A1318 similarr thing here, but they do come in alot of different colours, and designs.

Also the food is salmon, so maybe the salmon swallowed it, thinking it was something to eat. And it just got missed when they was mixing the salmon into food or whatever.

[hey_jude]

Well dear get your helmet cause now he's gonna whine about you being an Agent and that you're gonna kill him when he goes down to the pub or whatever the fuck...

And about the chip.. I'm also starting to wonder if I have one in my body.. but then again, maybe I got rid of it and didn't realize it...http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/154/sillyfacexo2.jpg

jesuitsdidit can bring it on... I'm on here to learn and sometimes learners pose questions, statements or post off topic, vague, ill-formed, well-informed, inlightened or ridiculous - but Agents, and what's with the "oma"...

Does it stand for On My Ass?

notthisshitagain = love that name :D

[coco]

That's terrible, Kitty could have choked! If they want to use 'inventory control' devices (read: anti shoplift devices) why can they use those stickers pasted to the packages like they do on everything else!!!

Bad, bad move on their part!!!! Shame on them!!!!! :mad:

[smariot]

I scaled all the images, aligned them so they were facing the same direction, flipped them so that the shadows were at the bottom, and turned it into an animation.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb212/smariot/steppewar-rfid.gif

It doesn't look like a photoshop. The reflections change and the thing rotates, so at the very least, it's not the same image pasted into different images.

[steppewar]

Here is the front and back of the guilty pouch.

I am going to write a complaint email to Sainsbury's. I will post it hear when I have sent it.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8164/packfront1hn7.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7923/packbackbv6.jpg

[lottie]

How did you notice it? Was it in the jelly or actually in a piece of meat or did you feel it through the packet? I quite often dont pick up the cat bowls to feed them i just crouch down and squeeze the pouch in as they're nudging me out the way to scoff so i dont think i'd notice if there was one in there again (assuming there's more than just the one you've found.)

[boowatts]

This is NOT a humour thread. Yesterday I opened a pouch of Sainsbury's salmon cat food, and when I was putting it in the bowl I discovered a strange small object.

I was going to send it to Sainsbury's with a letter of complaint, as it was small enough for my cat to swallow.

However, after doing some research I am convinced the object is an RFID chip.

Now I am wondering, how or why it ended up in there. I am also asking if there is any way to scan the information on the chip.

2 pictures below of it, plus a link to a site about RFID chips.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2894/rfidchipfz4.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7695/component2rq6.jpg

http://endtimesworldnews.punt.nl/?r=1&id=459777



I'd take it to a veterinary surgeon, they should be able to scan it or even a GP if you trust one!

[armoured_amazon]

How did you notice it? Was it in the jelly or actually in a piece of meat or did you feel it through the packet? I quite often dont pick up the cat bowls to feed them i just crouch down and squeeze the pouch in as they're nudging me out the way to scoff so i dont think i'd notice if there was one in there again (assuming there's more than just the one you've found.)

LOL my furkids do that too. :D

[lozz]

Its like the security tags that you find stuck to DVDs which they rub over a magnet so they dont go off at the door. Should not be IN a pouch of food though!!!

My husband took a look at your picture of the chip and said its exactly the same chip that is in the Punto immobiliser key fob.

Punto key chip:

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/LAD_VXL/Other%20Stuff/ResizeofDSCF2898.jpg

[citroen999]

Look at reply no 36. I posted a picture of the chip on my hand with my name written on it.

I believe that these things could easily be injested without humans or animals knowing it. The only reason why I noticed it in the 1st place is because I always scrutinize my cats food for impurities,gristly bits etc.

It was so small that when I first saw it I thought it was a used staple.

If it is true as someone said earlier that the component part of the chip stays in the body after ingesting it, then we are probably already microchipped.

it would track the cat for about 2 days until it shat it out.. then what they gonna track the shat!!

dont dispute you got one in your hand and dont dispute you got a opened cat food packet.. just dont think you found it in it...

[lottie]

It also looks smaller than the chip in my cats necks (dont flame me...i had them done way before i knew all this!!) If you have a feel around in the scruff you can feel the chip, its roughly the same size as a grain of rice. That chip looks slightly bigger...like the Verichip. :eek:

[sade]

smariot, you are proving what I am trying to prove aswell.
I never said the chip is a photoshop job itself,
but that the "proof" image is a COPY of the original image he showed,
the only difference being that he wrote around it trying to make it believable.

Look at the shadows in the original and then the "proof"
image that was rotated. The shadows in both images are the SAME because he copied the chip from the original image.
The thing that gave it away was that in the "proof"
image the chip-image was rotated and the shadow was coming from above,
when it should come from below. EVEN IF IT WAS SCANNED.

thelyran, please don't talk to me about universal love.
If you knew anything about it, you wouldn't have said that I have a "black heart." :)
Disagreeing with me is completely fine, we are all allowed to have an opinion,
but going that far is just a tad sad, especially when you're talking about love.

And to be honest, I wouldn't be doubting the starter of this thread as much unless he had started such clear trolling-threads in the past.

lozz: BINGO!!!!!!

[lottie]

Animal Microchip..

It does actually look like the left hand pic more than the verichip though...

[grachtengordel]

I scaled all the images, aligned them so they were facing the same direction, flipped them so that the shadows were at the bottom, and turned it into an animation.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb212/smariot/steppewar-rfid.gif

It doesn't look like a photoshop. The reflections change and the thing rotates, so at the very least, it's not the same image pasted into different images.

That is so cool. nice work. I'm sure it will become a favourite avatar on many forums

[informationx]

Here is the front and back of the guilty pouch.

I am going to write a complaint email to Sainsbury's. I will post it hear when I have sent it.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8164/packfront1hn7.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7923/packbackbv6.jpg

Good luck, cant wait to see what they say.

[steppewar]

How did you notice it? Was it in the jelly or actually in a piece of meat or did you feel it through the packet? I quite often dont pick up the cat bowls to feed them i just crouch down and squeeze the pouch in as they're nudging me out the way to scoff so i dont think i'd notice if there was one in there again (assuming there's more than just the one you've found.)

It was in the jelly. If it was in the meat I might not have noticed it and my cat could have eaten it.

[steppewar]

I've just emailed the below to customer services at Sainsburys, (location details removed).

8 February 2009

Dear Sir/Madam

I recently purchased a pouch of Sainsbury's perfectly fishy salmon cat food (pictures attached) at your (town) store on (street) and was shocked to discover it contained what appears to be an RFID chip (pictures attached). This item is essentially glass and copper wire so it is extremely fortunate I noticed it as it it could have easily caused life threatening injury to my cat.

The item appears identical to those used to chip family pets, therefore the obvious conclusion is that your pet food contains dead pets.
Before speaking to the members of the media who have expressed an interest in this story, I would be very interested to hear your explanation as to how and why your product came to be so dangerously contaminated.

The best before end/ batch number is L12 NOV 2010 08:54 118804

I look forward to your prompt reply.

[them]

They tag Salmon with chips like those to monitor how they move about once they've gone pelagic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/worldonthemove/reports/fish-and-chips/

You've got yourself a story there old son :)

[tusme]

While some might say that RFID technology itself is a virus set to spread the earth (a demonic one at that, according to a few), a recent investigation by security researchers has revealed that RFID tags could be used to spread computer viruses. But is the threat of a virus from an RFID tag real, or will they be stopped before they ever become an issue?
First, a quick lesson on RFID, for those of you not keeping up with the times. RFID (Radio Frequency IDentification) tags, are tiny devices which, when activated, send out a string of data to a receiving device.
There are a number of different types of RFID tag. Some receive an activation radio signal from a reading device, collect power from that very signal, and use it to power the transmission of their response. They have no internal power, and are known as passive. Then we have semi-passive, which have their own power supply, but await a signal before sending out their message. Finally there's active, which sends out a beacon every now and then, using its own power source.
Manufacturing costs mean that passive RFID tags are the most commonly available, but what are they used for? The biggest application is stock control. Think of an RFID tag as a barcode. Scanning the barcode, or RFID tag, returns to the reading device a unique ID string, which can then be looked up in the stock-control database. Other applications include security, with a small number of companies now requiring staff to have on their person (sometimes even implanted) an RFID tag that grants them access to a secure area.
When RFIDs attack

RFID tags can be tiny; we're talking rice grain size, so in theory they could be anywhere and everywhere, which for some raises privacy concerns. Those concerns aside, however, what about viruses? How can a tiny device, the majority of which are passive, spread viruses?
BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4810576.stm) is today reporting that a team of researchers have managed to write a 127-character long string to an RFID chip that, when read and processed by the back-end database software, can cause database corruption. So, any time an 'infected' tag is read, database corruption could occur, ultimately causing havoc, possibly across multiple databases. Hilariously, the BBC article includes a picture of a bunch of cat food cans, suggesting that your groceries could be the next cause of catastrophic computer meltdown.

Link... (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5072)

[fnulnu]

I've just emailed the below to customer services at Sainsburys, (location details removed).

8 February 2009

Dear Sir/Madam

I recently purchased a pouch of Sainsbury's perfectly fishy salmon cat food (pictures attached) at your (town) store on (street) and was shocked to discover it contained what appears to be an RFID chip (pictures attached). This item is essentially glass and copper wire so it is extremely fortunate I noticed it as it it could have easily caused life threatening injury to my cat.

The item appears identical to those used to chip family pets, therefore the obvious conclusion is that your pet food contains dead pets.
Before speaking to the members of the media who have expressed an interest in this story, I would be very interested to hear your explanation as to how and why your product came to be so dangerously contaminated.

The best before end/ batch number is L12 NOV 2010 08:54 118804

I look forward to your prompt reply.

Good stuff.I look forward to hearing what they'll have to say.It'd be great to see the media erupt over this one.Thousands of people haven't even heard of RFID/chips.The more aware people are,the harder it'll make it for them to do this stuff surreptitiously.
(Really happy to see this thread didn't get ranted during the night).

[steppewar]

Good stuff.I look forward to hearing what they'll have to say.It'd be great to see the media erupt over this one.Thousands of people haven't even heard of RFID/chips.The more aware people are,the harder it'll make it for them to do this stuff surreptitiously.
(Really happy to see this thread didn't get ranted during the night).

I got an automated response from Sainsbury's within 5 minutes of me sending the email...

This was their automated reply...

"Thank you for your email. We are currently dealing with your query and aim to respond to all our customers within two working days.

Kind regards,

Sainsbury's Customer Services Team"

2 working days from now is Wesnesday 11/2/2009.

If I don't get a serious reply at the minimum by this date I WILL contact the press about this.

My cat is the best thing I live for, as I have made obvious on previous threads and links. This assault on my cat has crossed the fucking line. Now I have sent the email I will take it all the way.

It's always been all or nothing for me.

[grachtengordel]

2 working days from now is Wesnesday 11/2/2009.

If I don't get a serious reply at the minimum by this date I WILL contact the press about this. .

dont wait for 'sainsbury' and give them time to cook up some lies with thier lawyers, contact the press right now man. you have an opportunity/responsability to make a noise with this, get media coverage, even slip bit of truth into the reports if they interview you.

you were born for this..............

[limelady]

steppewar, I am going to PM you.

What you have found may be of major interest to David icke.

[ex sheep]

I hope you make some headway with this steppewar.
Best of luck to you and your cat.

[ThierryHenry]

good detective work detective



"resources"? there you go with the cop-speak again



"let this thread lie" ?????? WHY would anyone post something like that?

are you concerned over the length of topics on this particular forum?

get the fuck out of here! how rude!

[ThierryHenry]

Gratchen...it was a combined attempt to marginalise Steppewar and kill the thread...when they were exposed...loss of interest.But no apology to Steppe
Honourable people admit their mistakes and apologise...they offer feel good videos on one-hand to woo the masses,but target individuals on the other as a vent for their bile.True spiritual people say "Universal love To All"...not to who I feel like at the time...just an observation.

my last reply goes to you too.

I literally CANNOT STAND people who ACT LIKE THEY KNOW.

You obviously don't know so, don't piss people like me off while you're trying too hard to play the wise man/woman.

its fuckin rude man

[rhydra]

but do they chip their pets? why assume that it is more common than here. i don't know anyone with chipped pets in U.K.


My dog's chipped, she was chipped before I got her, it's fairly common, nearly every veternarian has a reader.

[jesuitsdidit]

hey sw, can u take real close close-up so we can see wots inside pls...??

[grachtengordel]

but do they chip their pets? why assume that it is more common than here. i don't know anyone with chipped pets in U.K.

My dog's chipped, she was chipped before I got her, it's fairly common, nearly every veternarian has a reader.

cool, but we were debating the issue of whether CHINESE people chip their pets, did you get yopur dog from china?

A lot of pet food is manufactured in China..... I'm pretty sure that feckless pet-food suppliers who only care about making money wouldn't bother about introducing the odd dead dog or cat into the ingredients.

so you are saying that you think it likely came from a cat or dog that ended up in food? do you think many chinese people have thier pets chipped? I thought it wasn't even that common here to have chipped pets. why would it be so common in china to have chipped pets?

The Chinese have pets like everyone else..... Sometimes however, there is a purge on dogs, the state bans dogs and cats from certain areas of certain ...... Those who do comply will be the ones who's pets are in the system and already traceable so it is probably more likely that chipped pets will end up, sadly, "in the supply chain."
Of course, there is also the downturn in the economy, many people won't feel as they can afford to look after their pet, they are either abandoned to fend for themselves and end up being picked up or are taken to be "disposed of."

and you put a LOT into debating the theory that the RFID chip came from "chipped pets (that) will end up, sadly, in the supply chain.", and thats a nice story, really, but it's not very likely is it?
we do not yet know WHERE the cat 'food' was produced/processed
why all this assumption that the pouch of cat 'food' is from china, and logically includes chips from cats and dogs "picked up or are taken to be disposed of."

[steppewar]

hey sw, can u take real close close-up so we can see wots inside pls...??
If I focus in any nearer the image goes blurry. I think there is water moisture in the chip, not surprising really being stuck inside a damp catfood pouch. I hope this doesn't make the chip unreadable.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/995/p1000625hu2.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6144/p1000638ly1.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/893/p1000631qj9.jpg

[steppewar]

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5963/p1000652xs9.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1848/p1000651kx2.jpg

[smariot]

Does your camera have a macro mode? It's used specifically for taking pictures of small things.

Or maybe that was. I don't know.

[jesuitsdidit]

If I focus in any nearer the image goes blurry. I think there is water moisture in the chip, not surprising really being stuck inside a damp catfood pouch. I hope this doesn't make the chip unreadable.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/995/p1000625hu2.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6144/p1000638ly1.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/893/p1000631qj9.jpg

well done 4 trying

still if u can think of a way wd still b important imo
so we can positively identify it in case u lose it.
altho hav 2 say the point about fish being chipped bears further investigation imo
ne1 got ne info on chipping fish??

[talulah]

Im checking my cats food from now on btw.If they are putting dead animals in the cat/dog food then it will be like the mad cow thing all over again,theres one theory thats how it started by feeding animals to animals.Dont know if theres any truth in it or not.

[mushroombot]

They tag Salmon with chips like those to monitor how they move about once they've gone pelagic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/worldonthemove/reports/fish-and-chips/

You've got yourself a story there old son :)

That seems like a reasonable explanation.

[them]

Thank you for noticing my post mushroombot. How Fish pet food for Cats could become contaminated with a chip from somebody else's dead pet is a train of thought requiring critical reasoning.

ne1 got ne info on chipping fish??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7544199.stm

http://www.islaearth.org/show.php?_sid=1230883200

etcetera

I will upload some papers if you're really interested?

[leviathanstaar]

If the chip keeps movin around (inside kitty) , then I guess it works! right?

How it wouldnt eventually come out im not sure though.

[cleopatraxxx]

...it could be a chip designed to make the cat like just that type of food too...
just thought of that...regards.

hello thelyran, we meet again :-)
That thought could have mainly come from cat lovers or pet lovers or just a positively aligned human being.

I wish that was their main reason, of course it isn't...
I actually thought of you when i went on rreading this thread. thought maybe you weren't aware of it... but hehe, now i know. we cat lovers are aware of the unlimited atrocities performed by the "unidentified" perpetrators of these events. "unidentified " for now. Their day is coming thou when they will be exposed.

[cleopatraxxx]

its just a tracking chip used for pets can get them anywhere you have all been duped
see link http://www.pet-detect.com/products_list.php?category=1

sorry if it was true and you found it in cat food the reason behind that would be for tptb to test to see if it works on living things after consumption . Idk anything is possible .to me tho it just seems sus that someone who comes on these boards often finds an RFID tag little bit of a coincidence i think , also if they put them in pet food i am sure there would be loads and some other pet owner would of found one . That is my 2 cents but thank you for getting me thinking

hello snoop,

regarding the outlined sentence you wrote, i wish to express my point of view.
I am on David Ickes forum for more than 8 years (since it was remodelled to this current version) and i have not yet come across any RFID chips in my pets foods, but i have loads of photos registering CHEMTRAILS in more than 4 countries in different parts of the globe. Many users here are posting more photos and this is no COINCIDENCE.
After i first came accros with info on Chemtrails, it happened via internet too, is when i started taking photos of the locations i was visiting, whenever i was in possesion of a camera for that purpose. before that i actually was aware of the chemtrails, but thought they were just contrails. never knew the difference, except these chemtrails lasted much Looooooooonger than contrails. This just to say that now that someone came across the RFID in food for pets, i who have my cat fed also partially on canned food, will be more carefull and analyse to the microscope what she is being fed with!

reagrding the same stated sentence of yours..., have you ever heard of SYNCHRONICITY? it is a brilliant thing to investigate and become aware of. i would suggest JAMES REEDFIELD book the "CELESTINE VISION" it changes your life forever. if for better or worse depends only on you.

Good Luck

Cleo

[cleopatraxxx]

He does need to step up. Will he carry on been a keyboard warrior or will we see the person who really kick starts the war against RDF chips.

we are all keyboard warriors, dont you agree?????
some of us find this the main way of coming forward, by having the guts to post pictures, talk about our troubles giving clues about ourselves, unlike some of users here who only discredit and never speak of themselves. etc.
those are really affraid, to such a point they almost never post.

but life is shirt and time is running out. any form of taking part is welcome, imho.

to get to the end of the path one must take the first step.

Cleo

[simplify]

steppewar: Do you have any more pouches of the exact same cat food, ie same batch # etc. It would be very telling if you have some more ,to check them thoroughly. (if not) it would be worth it to go and buy a few more, even some different batch #'s and test them. That way you will know if the one you have is a one time thing, or if more show up in other pouches, then we know its been done deliberately.

People don't be surprised if you hear about a recall soon on this food.

[steppewar]

steppewar: Do you have any more pouches of the exact same cat food, ie same batch # etc. It would be very telling if you have some more ,to check them thoroughly. (if not) it would be worth it to go and buy a few more, even some different batch #'s and test them. That way you will know if the one you have is a one time thing, or if more show up in other pouches, then we know its been done deliberately.

People don't be surprised if you hear about a recall soon on this food.

I buy a lot of these pouches as my cat likes them. However, since I discovered the chip in THAT pouch, I am very,very careful when I put it in the bowl.

When I mush it up using a spoon my head is about 6 inches from the bowl. That is how difficult it was to spot.

BTW, I got a voicemail message from Sainsbury's Executive office, which I have transferred to my PC hardrive.

The woman sounded very nervous, said she didn't know how it got in there, they were still investigating, would contact me again, blah, blah, blah.

I scrutinize every pouch of cat food I now open, not just the Sainsbury's brand.

[simplify]

I buy a lot of these pouches as my cat likes them. However, since I discovered the chip in THAT pouch, I am very,very careful when I put it in the bowl.

When I mush it up using a spoon my head is about 6 inches from the bowl. That is how difficult it was to spot.

BTW, I got a voicemail message from Sainsbury's Executive office, which I have transferred to my PC hardrive.

The woman sounded very nervous, said she didn't know how it got in there, they were still investigating, would contact me again, blah, blah, blah.

I scrutinize every pouch of cat food I now open, not just the Sainsbury's brand.

So no more RFID's found then......maybe it was from a dead fish then. It would be great if others on this forum who buy cat food do some checks on the cat food to see if there are any chips.

I still think there might be a recall of that particular food you have stepw.

If Sainsbury's ask you to give them the chip, will you hand it over?

[steppewar]

[/B]

So no more RFID's found then......maybe it was from a dead fish then. It would be great if others on this forum who buy cat food do some checks on the cat food to see if there are any chips.

I still think there might be a recall of that particular food you have stepw.

If Sainsbury's ask you to give them the chip, will you hand it over?

If this happened, I would be compelled to have the chip examined myself, maybe by a vet.

If I did this and it came up with a pet's details, that would blow my mind and I am not sure what I would do then.

[mushroombot]

Hello - Possible logical explanation ahead!

Thank you for noticing my post mushroombot. How Fish pet food for Cats could become contaminated with a chip from somebody else's dead pet is a train of thought requiring critical reasoning.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7544199.stm

http://www.islaearth.org/show.php?_sid=1230883200

etcetera

I will upload some papers if you're really interested?


Lol - soylent green for cats:D

I find it quite funny to be honest. Everyone's way to wrapped up in the mystery to see what is the simplest explanation. It's still bad that it was found in the cat food, the salmon producers need to improve their processes to stop it happening again.

[thelyran]

hello thelyran, we meet again :-)
That thought could have mainly come from cat lovers or pet lovers or just a positively aligned human being.

I wish that was their main reason, of course it isn't...
I actually thought of you when i went on rreading this thread. thought maybe you weren't aware of it... but hehe, now i know. we cat lovers are aware of the unlimited atrocities performed by the "unidentified" perpetrators of these events. "unidentified " for now. Their day is coming thou when they will be exposed.

...Hi Cleopatra,
The one thing this thread mentions that's really disturbing is the possibility that pets are being recycled for pet food and stock-feed.I realise this happens with chickens and livestock,but had no idea that the RFID chip could be from an old insert in a former living animal.To be honest it looks like the human RFID chip,which is the angle I was working.But probably wrong.
I'm glad I don't feed my cats this type of processed food,Lisa gets human
grade tinned tuna and biscuits and tiger prawns once a week(fresh)...Nuts is on a PH- controlled medicinal diet...$3000 I spent on Nuts keeping him alive...
because of his former abusive owner.
You take care my dear,I would like to see Steppewar earn a little fame for this....hahahaha...never know what could become of this,regards Jason.

[jmmk]

Does Sainsbury process or produce human food for sale? Maybe it was meant
to go into people food and accidentally got put into a vat of cat food!

[hunger]

Just found this old news story from 2000, it still doesn't explain why a RFID chip would be found inside a packet of cat food...:confused:

RFID Tags Replace Bar Codes at Sainsburys

http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/home-furniture-furnishings-equipment-stores/4266436-1.html

[steevo]

Hello - Possible logical explanation ahead!




Lol - soylent green for cats:D

I find it quite funny to be honest. Everyone's way to wrapped up in the mystery to see what is the simplest explanation. It's still bad that it was found in the cat food, the salmon producers need to improve their processes to stop it happening again.

Do you think that the PTB are just trying to get us programmed into believing that if we find that we have been chipped without our permission, then it may have just been an "accident" ?

[them]

Do you think that the PTB are just trying to get us programmed into believing that if we find that we have been chipped without our permission, then it may have just been an "accident" ?

Surely, in this case, one would have to be ingesting Salmon Cat food to be chipped by "accident"? Our bodily processes would then pass the chip out during a subsequent movement.

I think the OP should ask his local Vet to scan the chip to see what information is registered on it. Or he could send it to me as I have a chip scanner in the office :D

[marpat]

This is NOT a humour thread. Yesterday I opened a pouch of Sainsbury's salmon cat food, and when I was putting it in the bowl I discovered a strange small object.

I was going to send it to Sainsbury's with a letter of complaint, as it was small enough for my cat to swallow.

However, after doing some research I am convinced the object is an RFID chip.

Now I am wondering, how or why it ended up in there. I am also asking if there is any way to scan the information on the chip.

2 pictures below of it, plus a link to a site about RFID chips.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2894/rfidchipfz4.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7695/component2rq6.jpg

http://endtimesworldnews.punt.nl/?r=1&id=459777

Perhaps they processed an animal that had such an implant. Maybe they forgot it had a chip and just left it in or something.

Are there any cattle holders that chip their animals for ID reasons. I know many are just painted. Maybe somebodies pet got in the mincer.

[them]

Perhaps they processed an animal that had such an implant. Maybe they forgot it had a chip and just left it in or something.

Are there any cattle holders that chip their animals for ID reasons. I know many are just painted. Maybe somebodies pet got in the mincer.


It was Salmon Cat food. They chip Salmon for research purposes. Please see above.

[marpat]

It was Salmon Cat food. They chip Salmon for research purposes. Please see above.

My bad. Got into a thought there but went the wrong way!!!

Well if they chip the salmon then it would seem obvious that it has just been overlooked during the processing.

[steevo]

Surely, in this case, one would have to be ingesting Salmon Cat food to be chipped by "accident"? Our bodily processes would then pass the chip out during a subsequent movement.

I think the OP should ask his local Vet to scan the chip to see what information is registered on it. Or he could send it to me as I have a chip scanner in the office :D

All fish could POTENTIALLY be chipped and cattle etc too I would have thought. I wouldnt be surprised if those microchips are old technology, and maybe they are making them alot smaller now so that they are hard to spot.

They put RFID chips inside trainers that you buy from shops that SUPPOSEDLY are to stop people stealing them from the shop. They could hide microchips inside clothing so that we can be tracked using biometric face recognition software and tetra masts/satelite. So even without realising that you are chipped you could try to escape to the woods and they would still find you.

[amercury]

What are you waiting for Steppewar?
Just get the thing scanned and then we will know where it came from.
:)

[qasrose]

send it to me I'll scan it :D in our store ha ha

[mushroombot]

Do you think that the PTB are just trying to get us programmed into believing that if we find that we have been chipped without our permission, then it may have just been an "accident" ?

I doubt it really. As other folks have said, ingesting the chip would mean that it would pass through and most folks would realise that. The salmon monitoring program as mentioned by Them seems like a reasonable explanation. It kind of tickled me that the post had been overlooked with the mystery very much on peoples minds. At least this new evidence is being debated now.

[them]

I wouldn't be surprised if those microchips are old technology, and maybe they are making them a lot smaller now so that they are hard to spot.

The hummingbird’s rapid wing motion produces a distinct hum—hence the bird’s name. Please watch this amazing imagery for your personal edification.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uxYy_Na3w

Hey Steevo, they make microchips small enough to implant upon the backs of Hummingbirds (http://www.projetcolibris.org/English/projet2006.html).

http://www.projetcolibris.org/English/images/marquegd.jpg


Ruby-throated Hummingbird

This bird aggressively defends its food supply and its surroundings against intruders.

Makes an amazing annual migration flight that includes crossing the 800-km expanse of the Gulf of Mexico.

Skilfully uses a variety of materials to build a nest that looks like a natural knob on the branch of a tree or shrub.

Beats its wings about 55 to 75 times a second.

http://www.hww.ca/~Content/71/Images/Map(21).gif

The Ruby-throated Hummingbird’s minute size, its skilful flight, and its migration set it apart among birds. The most remarkable feature about the hummingbird is its flight. It manoeuvres at incredible speed, rapidly changing direction in the air and darting away like a tiny green arrow. Unlike other birds, it can hover in place in the air. Its pointed wings appear to be a blur in flight. Scientists have been able to establish the rate of the wingbeats, by means of high-speed photography, at about 55 to 75 beats a second.

http://www.hww.ca/hww2.asp?id=71 (http://www.hww.ca/hww2.asp?id=71)

[cleopatraxxx]

poor hummingbirds...:(

[steevo]

Thanks Them. So if they can do it will those incredibly nimble birds then what chance have we got.
It's up to us to do something to make people aware (not just of microchips) of everything. If WE dont make a real effort NOW. I think we are headed for a police state fast. I had the tv on today and all that was on was war films, police programs, climate change scare tactics, and it was all aimed at the kids I reckon :cool: Sorry to go off topic there, but time is of the essence right now. And i have had bloody food poisening all weekend :( (not sure if it was definitely food poisening but that seems the most likely thing)

[cleopatraxxx]

Thanks Them. So if they can do it will those incredibly nimble birds then what chance have we got.
It's up to us to do something to make people aware (not just of microchips) of everything. If WE dont make a real effort NOW. I think we are headed for a police state fast. I had the tv on today and all that was on was war films, police programs, climate change scare tactics, and it was all aimed at the kids I reckon :cool: Sorry to go off topic there, but time is of the essence right now. And i have had bloody food poisening all weekend :( (not sure if it was definitely food poisening but that seems the most likely thing)

eeeehhh:( steevo,
i know how you feel
i have come to the same conclusion after observing the same: sublime programming of the minds via fear, control, wars, illness mixed with stupid soap operas that show the stupid empty lives of todays "developed" nations...:rolleyes:
:(
personally, i am daily outside with a camera taking pics of the sky. anywhere i stop and take photos of the chemtrails and actually HAARP has been going on lately too. an hour after the chemtrail has dispersed wide enough, it starts transforming into a "ribbed" form, sometimes it looks like the spine of a fish. well anyway, i know people stop and watch up too and that way, indirectly i make them curious and may be more aware of the lines in the skies!
silently, i do my possible for now share...
it still feels frustrating all this creepy situation that we are forced to live in by breathing in barium and harmful fungi spread by the winds after the chemtrails are laid out.

...:(
Cleo

[steevo]

eeeehhh:( steevo,
i know how you feel
i have come to the same conclusion after observing the same: sublime programming of the minds via fear, control, wars, illness mixed with stupid soap operas that show the stupid empty lives of todays "developed" nations...:rolleyes:
:(
personally, i am daily outside with a camera taking pics of the sky. anywhere i stop and take photos of the chemtrails and actually HAARP has been going on lately too. an hour after the chemtrail has dispersed wide enough, it starts transforming into a "ribbed" form, sometimes it looks like the spine of a fish. well anyway, i know people stop and watch up too and that way, indirectly i make them curious and may be more aware of the lines in the skies!
silently, i do my possible for now share...
it still feels frustrating all this creepy situation that we are forced to live in by breathing in barium and harmful fungi spread by the winds after the chemtrails are laid out.

...:(
Cleo

:(

Thanks Cleo:)

[amercury]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uxYy_Na3w



Sorry off topic...but that is a cool video! I can't believe how many hummingbirds that guy attracts in his yard.
I have seen these in my backyard and I always think they are bugs at first.
I think they are rather bug like because they are so fast. :)

So what ever happened with the chip Steppewar??

[fnulnu]

So what ever happened with the chip Steppewar??

I just popped back to ask the same.Any further developments,Steppe?
I'm guessing not or you would've said,but here's a bump any way.

[steppewar]

I just popped back to ask the same.Any further developments,Steppe?
I'm guessing not or you would've said,but here's a bump any way.

I took the chip to my local vets. They confirmed it was an RFID chip used in pets but said it could also be used in salmon.

The vet scanned the chip, but nothing came up. However, she said that if it was not used for pets, it could be used for other things, and maybe could be read something on an appropriate scanner.

I got a letter from Sainsbury's and a £30 voucher, here's the letter, (minus my address).

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5978/chip1.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9707/chip2i.jpg

[armoured_amazon]

I took the chip to my local vets. They confirmed it was an RFID chip used in pets but said it could also be used in salmon.

The vet scanned the chip, but nothing came up. However, she said that if it was not used for pets, it could be used for other things, and maybe could be read something on an appropriate scanner.

I got a letter from Sainsbury's and a £30 voucher, here's the letter, (minus my address).

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5978/chip1.jpg

"would be interested in retrieving the chip" I'm sure they would! Put it somewhere safe and don't tell us where!

:mad:

[kingmonkey]

It could have been used in salmon

Or more worryingly out of another dog or cat. :eek: Makes you wonder what goes in that pet food....

[fnulnu]

I took the chip to my local vets. They confirmed it was an RFID chip used in pets but said it could also be used in salmon.

The vet scanned the chip, but nothing came up. However, she said that if it was not used for pets, it could be used for other things, and maybe could be read something on an appropriate scanner.



Thanks for the update.Thirty quid hush money,eh?
I agree with Armoured_Amazon,stash that chip somewhere in plenty of tinfoil.

[lazytechnician]

if you accept their money, you will also accept their apology, send it back

[druggalo]

apparently in the states all cats and dogs recovered and sold by the humane society are automaticly microchiped for aleedged tracking.

[cleopatraxxx]

apparently in the states all cats and dogs recovered and sold by the humane society are automaticly microchiped for aleedged tracking.

:rolleyes:"humane":rolleyes:

[fnulnu]

Thanks for bumping this thread,Cleo.You just reminded me to buy bacofoil in time for my new passport to arrive tomorrow.Had to reschedule delivery because SMS weren't able to find my building (which was good cos I aint got no foil).

[cleopatraxxx]

Quote:
Originally Posted by druggalo
apparently in the states all cats and dogs recovered and sold by the humane society are automaticly microchiped for aleedged tracking.
QUote:
cleopatraxxx: :rolleyes:"humane":rolleyes:

Thanks for bumping this thread,Cleo.You just reminded me to buy bacofoil in time for my new passport to arrive tomorrow.Had to reschedule delivery because SMS weren't able to find my building (which was good cos I aint got no foil).

????

[grachtengordel]

Thanks for bumping this thread,Cleo.You just reminded me to buy bacofoil in time for my new passport to arrive tomorrow.Had to reschedule delivery because SMS weren't able to find my building (which was good cos I aint got no foil).

why not just microwave the thing?

[them]

Or more worryingly out of another dog or cat. :eek:

It was Salmon Cat food. With Salmon in it.

I took the chip to my local vets. They confirmed it was an RFID chip used in pets but said it could also be used in salmon.

The vet scanned the chip, but nothing came up. However, she said that if it was not used for pets, it could be used for other things, and maybe could be read something on an appropriate scanner.

I got a letter from Sainsbury's and a £30 voucher, here's the letter, (minus my address).

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5978/chip1.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9707/chip2i.jpg

Steppewar; please request that they forward you the contact details of the scientists who wish to retrieve the tracker chip data so that you may communicate with them in person. I'm convinced you would find this a most rewarding experience, as the recovery rate is extremely low, and they will fall over themselves to furnish you with all the information they glean from the chip.

Fascinating stuff.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_n03getjnf5w/RnLjN7122_I/AAAAAAAAANs/ZyRt8BiLp4c/s320/Salmon%2BShark.jpg
Movement map of twelve chipped Pacific Salmon

[steevo]

Apologies if this has already been mentioned but have you thought about going to the "news" papers, to give them a REAL story ?

[charliebad]

Gfy op.

[howie]

Our supplier has idenitified the object as a tag used to track wild salmon.

Quote that the next time a sheeple says humans can't be chipped & tracked.

[grachtengordel]

Quote that the next time a sheeple says humans can't be chipped & tracked.

right. they alsways claim that the chip must be veryu close to a 'reader' to track it, how many 'readers' are there floating in the ocean?

[smariot]

right. they alsways claim that the chip must be veryu close to a 'reader' to track it, how many 'readers' are there floating in the ocean?

Congratulations, you've removed another block from the already sparse Jenga tower I call reality. I hope you're happy with yourself. :mad:

[dreamweaver]

I'm a latecomer to this thread but I'm curious - what would be the point of putting a chip in a random pouch of cat food? Surely tracking is only of any value when you know what you're tracking?

[grachtengordel]

I'm a latecomer to this thread but I'm curious - what would be the point of putting a chip in a random pouch of cat food? Surely tracking is only of any value when you know what you're tracking?

sainsbury said in the letter that the chip is from a salmon that got mashed up into the cAT FOOD

Congratulations, you've removed another block from the already sparse Jenga tower I call reality. I hope you're happy with yourself. :mad:

sorry, i feel the same way. I always accepted the 'close proximity' limitations that apologists use to say RFID is not so bad. but the map above clearly shows how the salmon moved throughout the pacific ocean and the letter from sainsbury states "Our supplier has idenitified the object as a tag used to track wild salmon."

[dreamweaver]

the chip is from a salmon that got mashed up into the cAT FOOD

Yep, seen that now thanks. :)

What I'd like to know now is how the salmon in that map are tracked. The readers that vets have really do only have a limited range (I've tried one myself) but clearly these salmon are being tracked.

[dreamweaver]

Hmmm, looky here...

A salmon tagging scheme aimed at combating poaching has been criticised by licenced fishermen in County Londonderry.

Under the scheme introduced by the Loughs Agency earlier this year, all licenced fishermen on Lough Foyle and the Foyle River have been issued with tags.

It is now illegal to buy a salmon from the area that is not tagged.

This is aimed at taking the market away from poachers, who are further reducing dwindling stocks of Atlantic salmon.

This article dates back to 2001, so they've been using these tags all this time and made it illegal to buy salmon that don't have them...

[them]

right. they alsways claim that the chip must be veryu close to a 'reader' to track it, how many 'readers' are there floating in the ocean?

Congratulations, you've removed another block from the already sparse Jenga tower I call reality. I hope you're happy with yourself. :mad:



The information is stored on the chip & can only be read once the chip has been recovered. Take my word for it.. if you can't be motivated to research the issue properly.

[grachtengordel]

Take my word for it.. if you can't be motivated to research the issue properly.

"can't be motivated to research the issue properly"?

what was that for?

did I previously upset you in some other thread?

just what is your problem?

I am just another human , trying to work this stuff out with what limited info i can glean from wherever.

The information is stored on the chip & can only be read once the chip has been recovered.

oh, thanks for that. did you respond to genuinely share this info or is this just a 'correction' so you can feel 'one up' ?
so how does the chip record the data regarding the salmon's movements? there MUST be an 'active' element to the chip when it is away from the 'reader'

you post this map, supposedly of salmon movements in the ocean...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_n03getjnf5w/RnLjN7122_I/AAAAAAAAANs/ZyRt8BiLp4c/s320/Salmon%2BShark.jpg

so how does the chip know where the salmon have been? did the salmon pass by a 'reader' which recorded ON the chip when the fish passed? if you 'chip' a fish and let it free in the ocean, how is the info ever going to be recorded onto the chip? surely , if there are not billions of 'readers' floating in the ocean, and the chip has such a limited 'range' of readability, how come do the chips recoerd ANY info about the fish and its movements? all the salmon that are recovered would have 'empty' chips

[them]

[center]"can't be motivated to research the issue properly"?

what was that for?

did I previously upset you in some other thread?

just what is your problem?

I am just another human , trying to work this stuff out with what limited info i can glean from wherever.

Nobody in here has ever upset me. This is an internet forum. It was a netural statement. No offence intended.


oh, thanks for that. did you respond to genuinely share this info or is this just a 'correction' so you can feel 'one up' ?
so how does the chip record the data regarding the salmon's movements? there MUST be an 'active' element to the chip when it is away from the 'reader'

you post this map, supposedly of salmon movements in the ocean...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_n03getjnf5w/RnLjN7122_I/AAAAAAAAANs/ZyRt8BiLp4c/s320/Salmon%2BShark.jpg

so how does the chip know where the salmon have been? did the salmon pass by a 'reader' which recorded ON the chip when the fish passed? if you 'chip' a fish and let it free in the ocean, how is the info ever going to be recorded onto the chip? surely , if there are not billions of 'readers' floating in the ocean, and the chip has such a limited 'range' of readability, how come do the chips recoerd ANY info about the fish and its movements? all the salmon that are recovered would have 'empty' chips

There are several methods for gathering distribution data. In this case (eg OP's data logger or Chip) the most commonly used method is to log photo periods, or day length. When a chip/logger is recovered you can use some fancy software that transl;ates the 'daylength' information into longitudinal & latitudinal positions. It's a fairly complex process that does, however, provide useful data for building distribution/movement models.

As I said in an earlier post inside this thread - I'll upload some papers to Speedyshare if anybody is really interested.

[smariot]

The information is stored on the chip & can only be read once the chip has been recovered. Take my word for it.. if you can't be motivated to research the issue properly.

Well, how does this work?

Well, there's the problem of powering the thing. Almost all RFID tags depend entirely on the reader to get the power they need to function.

And more over, these things are used for identification, and have very limited memory and computing power. How are you going to program one to record and store the fish's position over time.

And if water absorbs radio and microwave energy, how can it receive anything from a GPS satellite to even know where the fish has been? [Edit: You said by tracking day length. I suppose if the thing included a clock, that could be plausible.]

And lastly, if these things can record a persons position over time, and then dump all that information to a reader when the person does finally come in range of one, then saying 'they can only know where you are if you're near a reader' is false. They can know where you are wherever you are, there is just a latency defined by how often you come in contact with a reader.

Whatever the chips in the fish are doing, it is obviously beyond the scope of traditional RFID, and as such, shouldn't be referred to as RFID.

[them]

Well, how does this work?

Well, there's the problem of powering the thing. Almost all RFID tags depend entirely on the reader to get the power they need to function.

And more over, these things are used for identification, and have very limited memory and computing power. How are you going to program one to record and store the fish's position over time.

And if water absorbs radio and microwave energy, how can it receive anything from a GPS satellite to even know where the fish has been? [Edit: You said by tracking day length. I suppose if the thing included a clock, that could be plausible.]

And lastly, if these things can record a persons position over time, and then dump all that information to a reader when the person does finally come in range of one, then saying 'they can only know where you are if you're near a reader' is false. They can know where you are wherever you are, there is just a latency defined by how often you come in contact with a reader.

Whatever the chips in the fish are doing, it is obviously beyond the scope of traditional RFID, and as such, shouldn't be referred to as RFID.

You make a lot of good points.

There are dozens of different types of these loggers/chips available and almost all are waterproof. The one's that upload straight to satellite can be tiny.

Salmon RFID stuff, here (http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:TM-xtmtzK7sJ:www.rfidjournal.com/article/pdf/1966/1/1/rfidjournal-article1966.PDF+salmon+rfid&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk) & here (http://www.youtube.com/results?aq=f&search_query=rfid+salmon&search_type=&gl=GB)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9ToBOMemPY

I thought you might also find this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4247275.stm) story from 2005 interesting.

Raindrops on Roses and whiskers on Kittens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Ih5O-_J0Q&feature=related

[them]

steppewar

I feel like the forum deserves an explanation of where your thoughts on this thread are, in time & space (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19094), at this juncture?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01118/otter-clover-460_1118830c.jpg

I saw an Otter today.

[always_rebel]

you'll find an RFID chip in every new credit and debit card issued over here.

Why do you people use credit cards???

I don't even have one!

You always complain about how controlled you are while at the same time giving your consent for them to do that.

I can't comprehend that.

[ytch]

What if it comes up with the information from another cat?! I would switch cat foods quick if that were the case :eek:
Well, they use cat- furr to make cat- toys, so what?
You know these little mice, sometimes with a bell inside?

The same goes for furr- parts on clothing etc,
it seems to be cheaper than rabbit,
saw a documentary about it some years ago..

[batou]

heh, have you ever tried to give a cat a pill? seems like a stupid idea to expect a cat to eat a glass capsule. and wouldn't they just shit it out anyway?

[humito]

Okay, so it's an RFID chip.

So, why is it in the pet food? Eating it surely isn't the best way to use it. Or is the pet food made out of recycled pets?

i think this is the most logical although disturbing answer.........think how many unwanted/stray pets are killed a year?? they are probably not taken away and incinerated like we are led to believe but made into food for other wanted pets..

[thelyran]

Well, how does this work?

Well, there's the problem of powering the thing. Almost all RFID tags depend entirely on the reader to get the power they need to function.

And more over, these things are used for identification, and have very limited memory and computing power. How are you going to program one to record and store the fish's position over time.

And if water absorbs radio and microwave energy, how can it receive anything from a GPS satellite to even know where the fish has been? [Edit: You said by tracking day length. I suppose if the thing included a clock, that could be plausible.]

And lastly, if these things can record a persons position over time, and then dump all that information to a reader when the person does finally come in range of one, then saying 'they can only know where you are if you're near a reader' is false. They can know where you are wherever you are, there is just a latency defined by how often you come in contact with a reader.

Whatever the chips in the fish are doing, it is obviously beyond the scope of traditional RFID, and as such, shouldn't be referred to as RFID.

...to me,it looks like through electro-magnetic induction,using minute amounts of electrical (Physiological) energy,from the carrier,ie...salmon,cat or
human.Have a close look at the RFID chip,it's glass,capsule shaped with small
copper windings going into a epoxy core,where the memory chip is stored.The
windings power the chip,which transmits the signal,it was once coined telegraphy,the feeding of electricity without conduits,or wires.Old Tesla stuff,
but we use it today with wireless modems and phone towers.
We are the powerhouse,dynamos (Batteries)...that power the thing...all of
you,go and get a kirlian photo of yourself,where you will witness a mostly
invisible field of energy,that morphs in colours every second,with how you think...thought,is a very powerful form of electrical energy,psychics learn to harnass this,many of us,throw it about...not realising how precious this energy is...That's why,They Live,We Sleep...

[dude111]

Nuke the thing in the microwave and flush it.
That's what I did when I found one in a jacket I bought.
Track THAT you pricks.Thats about the only thing one can do!!!!

Microwaving anything will destroy it!!!

Put a CD in there for a few seconds AND THE DATA TRACKS ARE COMPLETLY DESTROYED!!!! (You'll hear nothing on it)

[disorder2k8]

Yes that is the new generation RFID's the old ones were as big as a bullet and used on cattle (I worked on a farm)

Send a photo to the media.


RFID's can only be read from about a foot away, by the way. So there is no such thing as satellite tracking yet*. Its probably used for inventory management and tracking (also anti-theft). Although actually in the food and not embedded in the packet is very dangerous and should be reported anyway.


*There may well be in the future, but not right now.

[verndewd]

Seriously, i cant belive no one has posted!

I have heard that pet food is more healthy than human food.


Sick effin bastards!

its not like it would have stayed in the cats body, though it is very odd. should send it off to test for a coating that prohibits cellular growth see if it was intended to stay in the GI tract.

[christ4life]

Looks to me like they want to make sure all animals are chipped because were the animals go you go.

[morethanatheory]

dont send it off, keep it until you find someone who will scan it honestly

..kinda fucked up though.. catfood? wtf

i once found a piece of metal in a fishfinger i thought that was crazy, but this is FUCKED

[shepherdess]

OK,
any vet will be able to scan it and should do for free if you ask a nice one nicely.

I spose it depends on where the meat has come from. In the USA they have been found countless times to be putting euthanised pets (San Francisco Chronicle feb 1990?)into pet food and the "quality content" allows for things like shoe leather (collars perhaps) to be included as protien content.

(interesting article and a few links http://www.examiner.com/pet-news-in-anaheim/euthanized-animal-parts-added-to-the-brew-by-pet-food-mfg-to-make-pet-food-you-be-the-judge)

Or course, dairy cattle also sometimes have RFID for auto feeders as they are each given set amount depending on milk yield. They may well be dumped into the scrap meat pot as dairy cattle are very unappetising!

Certainly should not be in cat food or any other foods! and could be a concern for the new EU RFID enforced use in cattle, sheep and perhaps goats.

[kbeet]

YES, CONTACT THE MEDIA...though, thinking about it, the illuminati run media will make sure this story DOES NOT reach the masses, but give it a go !!..:mad:

just go to the docs and put it in or on one of the ships.
that will keep them busey

[crowman]

There's 4 explanations:

....

4. They make the cat food out of cats

Bingo!

[barnkis]

Here's my take on this. Most cat foods are the unwanted/ inedible discarded meat from other industries. pets, farm animals, infected meat, etc. gets put in there, collars and all.

My guess is one of these animals had a chip and it made it into your cats food.

Get that shit scanned man.