What religion are you?....and WHY????

[james777]

What is religion?

RELIGION- the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power : a personal God or gods

Why do we have it? Do we feel the need to be labelled? Is the labelling just another plot against us by Satan(prison warders)?

Religion is funny. It's a means by which people come together for the betterment of spirituality, right? Well why has it shifted toward angry hatred to others who believe differently? God himself tells us;

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

How have we been divided up into different religions and now sub-divided within the religions. Can't you people see this is the typical 'divide and rule' trick. We're being defeated on 'ALL' sides here.

I'm a follower of Jesus Christ, my label I suppose is Christain. I believe this religion because I've eliminated all other possibilities and have found undeniable truth within.

What is your religion and why do you believe in it?

[montag]

Hi James, I don't follow any particular religion although I draw from the teachings of many but prefer to follow my own path.

I have to give you points for gumption though, coming on to a David Icke forum and posing such a question, should be an interesting thread.:cool:

[james777]

Hi James, I don't follow any particular religion although I draw from the teachings of many but prefer to follow my own path.

I have to give you points for gumption though, coming on to a David Icke forum and posing such a question, should be an interesting thread.:cool:

I guess you have a profusion of religions. Your own path will lead you to your own destiny. I can respect that. I am curious though how you came to this particular belief.

Ya, I've noticed that a lot of people here don't want to talk about religion too much.....but you're right, this should get interesting. I feel like this will help a lot of us learn from each other and perhaps pull the wool from a few more eyes.

[cheeb]

Born Again Aetheist,
Freedom Fighter,
Pacifist,
Libertarian,
Anarchist,

All of the armchair variety

POE

Power to the people

[james777]

Born Again Aetheist,
Freedom Fighter,
Pacifist,
Libertarian,
Anarchist,

All of the armchair variety

POE

Power to the people

LOL, I'm sorry, but none of those qualify for a 'religion'. Thanks for the response though.

[cheeb]

OK James
can you be a beleiver in jesus the man,
without beleiving in the last day,
and holding on to the idea that the kingdom of heaven
is within
not an external place
waiting for us

just asking questions,
not looking for arguements

it would be handy for me if you posted experiences, ideas,
not bible quotes,

but whatever you feel comfortable with

[roxanna222]

Hello. Iam joining the Catholic religion to become a nun. I will give myself and body over to Jesus Christ. Bless you all. Find your devoted paths to the almighty Father which is only through his son Jesus Christ.

[cheeb]

Roxanna 222

that was your 222 post

How odd

[james777]

OK James
can you be a beleiver in jesus the man,
without beleiving in the last day,
and holding on to the idea that the kingdom of heaven
is within
not an external place
waiting for us

just asking questions,
not looking for arguements

it would be handy for me if you posted experiences, ideas,
not bible quotes,

but whatever you feel comfortable with

Sure, I don't mind giving you my personal views and experiences. I am a believer in Jesus the man. I believe that Jesus the man was a hybrid between human and God, God within, human on the outside. Without going into scripture I believe he came to atone us so that Satan(prison warders) do not have control of our dimension any longer. I do not believe in the last day. Nothing will ever end, including the world. I do not believe the Kingdom of heaven is within, but it will be a physical place when we reach that level.

I've teetered back and forth on these religion issues in my past. I've had a few tramatic things happen to me and I've seen things with my 3rd eye that has given me undeniable proof of what is out here. Our human eye is only a 3 dimensional camera, there is another dimension all around us all the time. I started to expand my faith(belief) a few years ago and I have a deep communication with my soul (in which I believe to be divine communication) and have seen things clearly ever since.

I try not to put much emphasis on religion. I believe the Bible is a guide for fruitful living and I believe there are many truths within it. I'm also not naive and understand that men have changed parts of it to fit their agenda. I solace a true relationship with God/Creator/Jesus/Holy Spirit because without real personal relationships with them, nothing will make sense. Now I understand that God/Jesus/Holy Spirit are all the same and one might question, 'How is this possible'? It's kinda like H2O, Liquid, Solid, Gas, all the same but also all different.

[roxanna222]

cheeb well out of curiosity and before i leave tomorrow for the convent i would like to ask how you know what number of posts of mine, i didnt realize that it was that many posts and is my favorite number anything with 2, 22, 222 is my thing

ahh how foolish ok i see how now right there lol missed it not much into details

[danielg]

Roxanna 222

that was your 222 post

How odd

Thats a minor detail really, the finest looking woman on the forum has just chosen the frigid-life of a nunerette, tis a crime against all our brothers. ;)

[hew1]

What is religion?

RELIGION- the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power : a personal God or gods

Why do we have it? Do we feel the need to be labelled? Is the labelling just another plot against us by Satan(prison warders)?

Religion is funny. It's a means by which people come together for the betterment of spirituality, right? Well why has it shifted toward angry hatred to others who believe differently? God himself tells us;

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

How have we been divided up into different religions and now sub-divided within the religions. Can't you people see this is the typical 'divide and rule' trick. We're being defeated on 'ALL' sides here.

I'm a follower of Jesus Christ, my label I suppose is Christain. I believe this religion because I've eliminated all other possibilities and have found undeniable truth within.

What is your religion and why do you believe in it?
James ,this is only my opinion so dont take offense,you are spot on with the divide and rule when it comes to religion,so why are you a Christian, my guess is if you were born in Iraq youd be following mohammed .Anyway like you have just asked my religion is non existance as I now know they are a load of bollocks,and deep down Ive always known.Thankyou David for jogging my memory. INFINITE LOVE.

[james777]

James ,this is only my opinion so dont take offense,you are spot on with the divide and rule when it comes to religion,so why are you a Christian, my guess is if you were born in Iraq youd be following mohammed .Anyway like you have just asked my religion is non existance as I now know they are a load of bollocks,and deep down Ive always known.Thankyou David for jogging my memory. INFINITE LOVE.

Good points, but the only reason I'm a christian is because that's the label the world gives me. I'm simply a follower and believer in Jesus Christ, labels don't do much for me. It's about personal relationship with the one who created you, not religion.

[james777]

I figure if they give us enough splits in religion then it will become almost impossible to find the truth because dis-information will run you down many paths. That's why Jesus said "the path to destruction is wide and the path to heaven is narrow"

[roxanna222]

a kind statement mr. daniel. im quite happy to devote my life to jesus christ and the catholic church. father w is quite a handsome priest.

[lifeofbrian]

I am an atheist with respect for the forces of nature I may not yet fully understand.

Unlike people of the past I will not call a wind a "god". Nor do I call a thunder "Thor".

And I do not bow to any deity demanding my doing so.

I am all for fostering sisterly and brotherly love - not as in masonic but - as in regarding other people having as much right as I do to exist, having their say, and trying to resolve conflicts in their own areas without my involvement and meddling. That to me is showing respect - by staying out of something I have no way of understanding re: culture and tradition.

Supernatural forces and abilities are to me not from any "God". In my view they are natural energies and part of our environment - there for anyone to tap into and use for good or bad. And I think people do this all the time without knowing they do.

To me "soul" is my knowing that I am connected to a certain time-frame (and my existing within multiple time-frames) and responsible for my actions and the direct communications with people in my life and (unfortunately) online. It is also knowing this "karma" / connection requires me to return to the point of origin at some point.

From the atheist point of view, the higher self is the part of us operating from the heart - which in turn connects to the soul - which in turn connects to a soulgroup - which in turn connects to a source of that soulgroup. The soulgroup will when returning to their "source" surpass it and move on to other realms of experience, never returning to their source. Voyagers.

None of this can be found within any system of faith.

It is my own intuitive reality.

I trust myself rather than any Deity saying I have to sacrifice children to it.

I have no need to put a name and face on the idea of "God" to understand life is sacred.

Life is sacred, that is common sense.

People who claim otherwise must be retards.

[james777]

I am an atheist with respect for the forces of nature I may not yet fully understand.

Unlike people of the past I will not call a wind a "god". Nor do I call a thunder "Thor".

And I do not bow to any deity demanding my doing so.

I am all for fostering sisterly and brotherly love - not as in masonic but - as in regarding other people having as much right as I do to exist, having their say, and trying to resolve conflicts in their own areas without my involvement and meddling. That to me is showing respect - by staying out of something I have no way of understanding re: culture and tradition.

Supernatural forces and abilities are to me not from any "God". In my view they are natural energies and part of our environment - there for anyone to tap into and use for good or bad. And I think people do this all the time without knowing they do.

To me "soul" is my knowing that I am connected to a certain time-frame (and my existing within multiple time-frames) and responsible for my actions and the direct communications with people in my life and (unfortunately) online. It is also knowing this "karma" / connection requires me to return to the point of origin at some point.

From the atheist point of view, the higher self is the part of us operating from the heart - which in turn connects to the soul - which in turn connects to a soulgroup - which in turn connects to a source of that soulgroup. The soulgroup will when returning to their "source" surpass it and move on to other realms of experience, never returning to their source. Voyagers.

None of this can be found within any system of faith.

It is my own intuitive reality.

I trust myself rather than any Deity saying I have to sacrifice children to it.

I have no need to put a name and face on the idea of "God" to understand life is sacred.

Life is sacred, that is common sense.

People who claim otherwise must be retards.

Interesting indeed, you sir are a true atheist by definition. Why are you opposed to bowing to a diety? Do you feel that maybe you are denying yourself in doing that? Just curious here.

I am curious to know how you think you were created. How did this earth, universe, reality come into being?

[cheeb]

james and roxanna,
I Have a feeling that the messianic age will come
when we become pure in our hearts,
When we demonstrate
the power of love

This sounds a bit strange for me not being a christian
but i beleive Jesus the man stood
between the devine
and the human

the seen and the unseen

making the most wretched sinner
feel closer to
god?

?

[lifeofbrian]

Interesting indeed, you sir are a true atheist by definition. Why are you opposed to bowing to a diety? Do you feel that maybe you are denying yourself in doing that? Just curious here.

I am curious to know how you think you were created. How did this earth, universe, reality come into being?

I do not understand your question. "Denying yourself" how?

Every "God" in this earthly realm has been what you "faithful" would call "deamons".

Will I bow to them?

Hardly.

[baron von lotsov]

I figure if they give us enough splits in religion then it will become almost impossible to find the truth because dis-information will run you down many paths. That's why Jesus said "the path to destruction is wide and the path to heaven is narrow"

So the narrow minded person is the one whose mind is accurate and the open minded person is one who allows anything to penetrate their belief system. Isn't it interesting that open-minded is perceived to be good and narrow-minded bad?

[tinmenace]

Religion is organized crime. It hijacks your soul and imprisons your consciousness.

I don't have a religion.

[lifeofbrian]

Interesting indeed, you sir are a true atheist by definition. Why are you opposed to bowing to a diety? Do you feel that maybe you are denying yourself in doing that? Just curious here

I am curious to know how you think you were created. How did this earth, universe, reality come into being?.

I do not understand your question. "Denying yourself" how?

Every "God" in this earthly realm has been what you "faithful" would call "deamons".

Will I bow to them?

Hardly.

The second part of your question - how we came to be:

We were bred and found to be the species which produced the most heartfelt emotions.

Heart does not discriminate. Heart loves all. Furthermore - heart is our connection to other people.

"Jealous Gods" (ancient thoughtforms and mechanical systems in the universe) did not approve of "heart" - unless it fed them.

Those mechanical "belief"-systems in all of the layers of "heaven" demanded we worship them.

You do that.

I will not.

[cheeb]

Fair enough Time and ace
but at the moment we are reasoning with each other,
trying to find common ground
working out how we tick,
no doubt insults and slagging offs will come further down the thread,
but for now ,
all is good.

[james777]

I do not understand your question. "Denying yourself" how?

Every "God" in this earthly realm has been what you "faithful" would call "deamons".

Will I bow to them?

Hardly.

What I mean by 'denying yourself' is to give up control of your unknown existence..i.e....soul. You are accurate that many 'gods' have been here claiming to be gods. Keep in mind these so-called 'gods' were nothing more than 'fallen angels', and they were here to set the stage for total seperation from the one true God and unfortunately thay have succeeded on many fronts. When man gave up the rights to his mind "eating from the tree of good and evil", he opened the human race up to the forces of evil and ever since we have continued to seperate ourselves from God ignoring clear messages.

[james777]

So the narrow minded person is the one whose mind is accurate and the open minded person is one who allows anything to penetrate their belief system. Isn't it interesting that open-minded is perceived to be good and narrow-minded bad?

Now that's a 'golden' quote!

[lifeofbrian]

We are free to believe what we want without criticism. All is good.

[auron]

I am infinite love, and so are you!! :)

[james777]

We are free to believe what we want without criticism. All is good.

I concur!

[lifeofbrian]

Great James :)

[roxanna222]

Hello. I was joking. Not into any religion. I believe that I'am God. I believe that we all are. A drop in the ocean the ego of one the whole of it is God. Every person, tree, animal any and all things are God. No matter the spiritual "enlightenment" of one or the other. It just is in my opinion. Now the aim is to achieve this awareness on a personal level. I have yet to do this. It is still in the "knowing" stage and the "intellect" one for me personally. So I have much to look forward to in this path. Bless

note: I will not join a convent and make fun of them

[roxanna222]

I dont know if I believe their is a God. I use the word to describe what I believe. I only think that something does unite it all. What that is I cant say, never mind name. I realize that this contradicts my last post but I was using the word "God" and it hit me that what is that really? I do not know. I feel that I am and all of us are part of it all, the all being fuck knows. Im not so advanced as to venture on that now but something is up, be it "God" or just floating matter who knows. I do not. But I do think Iam a part of it all and think all of us are as well.

[phoenix1]

Me ?? Im a staunch member of The Church Of Hawkwind

The only Church of Choice lmfho

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/hawkwind/index.html

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/hawkwind/cover_churchofhawk.gif

StarshipHakwind twinned with Spaceship Starfire:):D:D

[ashyr]

pull down your gates and mow your lawns of belief because the time is coming. the end is near. and if u dont have a pretty belief system like me your going to burn. hahah!


duality = nonsense. religion we all know is nonsense this is just a CLUTCH thread to stop you from feeling the negativity of the reality of your FEELINGS that people put on you in your VACINITY so u come here for some moral support. GREAT> butjust get off your arse and stand up for yourself.

i hate CLUTCH!. its so boring. and time consuming for nothing.

[montag]

I am infinite love, and so are you!! :)
I'm Brian and so's my wife..:p

[montag]

I guess you have a profusion of religions. Your own path will lead you to your own destiny. I can respect that. I am curious though how you came to this particular belief.
It is my firm belief that it is a mistake to hold firm beliefs, I prefer to think of it as a work in progress.
Although I'm interested in the teachings of Jesus as I am also in the teachings of Buddha, Krishna or Lao Tzu. I really like Lao Tzu though, Taoism or the way doesn't have any rules or restriction and the teaching is very simple, I like that.:)

David Icke's Bollockism is another goodie..

[james777]

I dont know if I believe their is a God. I use the word to describe what I believe. I only think that something does unite it all. What that is I cant say, never mind name. I realize that this contradicts my last post but I was using the word "God" and it hit me that what is that really? I do not know. I feel that I am and all of us are part of it all, the all being fuck knows. Im not so advanced as to venture on that now but something is up, be it "God" or just floating matter who knows. I do not. But I do think Iam a part of it all and think all of us are as well.

The beginning of understanding the God of 'your understanding' is the conception of knowledge. I see your points on a few levels. One being that we are all part of 'one' thing. I agree, we're all part of the imagination of the 'creator', who is commonly reffered to as 'God'. However I cannot agree with you on the fact that you may believe that we are 'God' ourselves. If this was true we would have all the answers. I think we are all sons and daughters of God and I believe we are 'in' this world but not 'of' it and I believe that we are created in the image of God the creator, but as far as our 3 dimensional reality is concerned, we're very limited creatures when it comes to the 4th dimension. We need to worry about our reality and take care of what we have now, because the future will take care of itself.

[james777]

pull down your gates and mow your lawns of belief because the time is coming. the end is near. and if u dont have a pretty belief system like me your going to burn. hahah!


duality = nonsense. religion we all know is nonsense this is just a CLUTCH thread to stop you from feeling the negativity of the reality of your FEELINGS that people put on you in your VACINITY so u come here for some moral support. GREAT> butjust get off your arse and stand up for yourself.

i hate CLUTCH!. its so boring. and time consuming for nothing.

I would have to dis-agree very highly with your -duality = nonsense- belief. Duality is one thing that is for sure, just take a look around. North-South, Hot-Cold, Up-Down, Left-Right, Rich-Poor, Dumb-Smart, Good-Evil....These are all dual components that we deal with in our reality on a daily basis, if you believe it to be nonsense then you fatally remove your self from the reality that we live in.

How do you come to the conclusion that religion stops you from feeling the reality of your feelings that people put on you in your (Vacinity--I'm not sure what this word means) Coming here for moral support is as far from the truth as a lie.

I'm sorry, I just don't understand what you mean with your post, could you elaborate a little more please?

[ashyr]

you obviously live in a BINARY state.

we are let i remind your in the 3rd dimension. things work in 3's here man

MIND BODY SPIRIT. positive negative neutral. proton neutron electron animal vegetable mineral . i could go on all day.

duality is bullshit.

[montag]

you obviously live in a BINARY state.

we are let i remind your in the 3rd dimension. things work in 3's here man

MIND BODY SPIRIT. positive negative neutral. proton neutron electron animal vegetable mineral . i could go on all day.

duality is bullshit.
Father son and the holy ghost..

[james777]

It is my firm belief that it is a mistake to hold firm beliefs, I prefer to think of it as a work in progress.
Although I'm interested in the teachings of Jesus as I am also in the teachings of Buddha, Krishna or Lao Tzu. I really like Lao Tzu though, Taoism or the way doesn't have any rules or restriction and the teaching is very simple, I like that.:)

David Icke's Bollockism is another goodie..

You know what, I understand what you mean. I understand your feeling of freedom to choose components of all religions and apply them to yourself so you can feel and live with comfort outside of rules or restrictions. Not to 'eclipse' what you say, but isn't your 'firm belief of "it is a mistake to hold a firm belief" in fact a paradox?

I don't dis-agree that Buddha, Krishna or Lao Tzu are important figures with a lot of gravity. They were definitely people who were on the right path, the only difference is that I don't believe them to be God. Everyone can make a contribution to the 'light', but there was only one who came to atone our human sin and sacrifice himself for the gift of grace which is salvation. I know this may sound like preaching, but I really do believe it.

I like D Icke, I think he is truly here to help people, although I don't agree with all of his views or teachings, it's not my duty to judge his intent of delivering his message.

[james777]

you obviously live in a BINARY state.

we are let i remind your in the 3rd dimension. things work in 3's here man

MIND BODY SPIRIT. positive negative neutral. proton neutron electron animal vegetable mineral . i could go on all day.

duality is bullshit.

Father son and the holy ghost..

Yes, yes, you guys are correct in what you say, but at the core of these components is duality. Example; Father, Son and Holy Ghost are in fact 3 seperate 'states', but they are part of the 'body' of 'Good' which is a dual component. You cannot have 3 without 1. Everything derives out of 1.

[montag]

Not to 'eclipse' what you say, but isn't your 'firm belief of "it is a mistake to hold a firm belief" in fact a paradox?
Yes thats the point, it's ironic..

I don't dis-agree that Buddha, Krishna or Lao Tzu are important figures with a lot of gravity. They were definitely people who were on the right path, the only difference is that I don't believe them to be God.
I believe the God force flows through all of us, whether Jesus was God incarnate or Buddha wasn't is a moot point IMO. There is no need to search outside of yourself for what is already contained within..

[james777]

I believe the God force flows through all of us, whether Jesus was God incarnate or Buddha wasn't is a moot point IMO. There is no need to search outside of yourself for what is already contained within..

Point taken, but if we already have everything within, why do we look outward for enlightenment? Or is it just me who searches externally?

[montag]

Point taken, but if we already have everything within, why do we look outward for enlightenment? Or is it just me who searches externally?
The Kingdom of heaven is within, enlightenment is now, we already are enlightened beings made in the image of God, all that is required is to wake up.. "I tell you the truth. The person that believes in me will do the same things I have done. Yes!" - John 14:1-14

[limelady]

The Kingdom of heaven is within, enlightenment is now, we already are enlightened beings made in the image of God, all that is required is to wake up.. "I tell you the truth. The person that believes in me will do the same things I have done. Yes!" - John 14:1-14

I agree....but do you mean genetically engineered in the image of our ancient creator gods - the Annunaki?

[james777]

I agree....but do you mean genetically engineered in the image of our ancient creator gods - the Annunaki?

If there is in fact 'annunaki', why did we not hear of them until the late 20th century?

[brians201]

Well here goes with my twopennance worth :)

If we call the life force God then :
God is All ........ All is God.
As such we and everything else are all part of God .......

Every thought we have goes to play it's part in creation.
Hence .. Right Thought..... Right Word ........ Right Action

Religion is the biggest crime perpetrated on Humanity :
( notwithstanding the 1000's of good hearted people that work under the name of many of the religions all over the globe)

Our only problem is we have forgotten what we are !
Our challenge is to regain that knowledge !

The work of DI represents a completely bullshit free, plain talking compendium of human spiritual knowledge and points us towards the full knowledge that our reality on this plane is but an illusion, or at the least one of an infinite number of other realities.
The esoteric texts of the world have been saying this since words were invented and the shamans of the world have been travelling between the realities for as long as humanity has existed.

And Roxanna ..... I knew you were never going to be a NUN :eek:

[montag]

I agree....but do you mean genetically engineered in the image of our ancient creator gods - the Annunaki?
No I don't believe that, although there has most likely been a bit of tinkering along the way which has caused us to stray from our creator by making us forget who we really are. Waking up though is the most difficult part as we have been so engineered to stay sleeping by whoever it is that seeks to control us.
Wake up to who you really are and the Annunaki/Reptillians/Satan doesn't stand a chance.

I'm still trying..:D

[montag]

Well here goes with my twopennance worth :)

If we call the life force God then :
God is All ........ All is God.
As such we and everything else are all part of God .......

Every thought we have goes to play it's part in creation.
Hence .. Right Thought..... Right Word ........ Right Action

Religion is the biggest crime perpetrated on Humanity :
( notwithstanding the 1000's of good hearted people that work under the name of many of the religions all over the globe)

Our only problem is we have forgotten what we are !
Our challenge is to regain that knowledge !

The work of DI represents a completely bullshit free, plain talking compendium of human spiritual knowledge and points us towards the full knowledge that our reality on this plane is but an illusion, or at the least one of an infinite number of other realities.
The esoteric texts of the world have been saying this since words were invented and the shamans of the world have been travelling between the realities for as long as humanity has existed.

And Roxanna ..... I knew you were never going to be a NUN :eek:
That was twopennance well spent Brian, good post and I wholeheartedly agree..

[king]

i got no religion, therefore no labels
;)

[i_am]

I posted this in another thread some time ago when we were having a 'god' discussion. I will post it here for the heck of it :p

In the beginning there was the word
The Word is sound
Sound is vibration
Vibration is energy
The Word is a thought.
Thought is vibration
Thought is energy
Love is vibration
God is love
God is Energy
God, The word, Love, Thought, Energy, Vibration
Is all not one?

Creation is turning thought into matter.
Through matter God can experience what in thought is only a concept.


I do believe we are all one. I do believe we are all God or a part of. I do believe that the whole atonement thing is misconstrued that it is at-one-ment and I do believe that if Jesus did exist that he was an enlightened being, as we all are but he knew he was. We, on the other hand, are still coming to terms with that. As David Icke says, we don't need to search for enlightenment we are enlightenment.

I do not believe in religion which is not to say I do not believe in God, The Source, The Creator or whatever title you wish to use. However, if it works for you.....great.

[terminus_est]

What religion are you?....and WHY????

Not religious though I do believe in an all-pervading intelligence or collective of intelligences that directs the natural order of things in this world and universe. And life to me just seems just way too complex to be product of millions upon millions of years of developing from a glob of simple chemicals.

[joy division]

They were aliens the people worshipped mistaken for gods.

For 100,000 years homosapiens walked this earth with not a sniff of technology, then all of a sudden WHAM! we are building pyramids.

Our civilisation is a result of alien intervention.

[seanx]

Originally Posted by roxanna222
I dont know if I believe their is a God. I use the word to describe what I believe. I only think that something does unite it all. What that is I cant say, never mind name. I realize that this contradicts my last post but I was using the word "God" and it hit me that what is that really? I do not know. I feel that I am and all of us are part of it all, the all being fuck knows. Im not so advanced as to venture on that now but something is up, be it "God" or just floating matter who knows. I do not. But I do think Iam a part of it all and think all of us are as well.


Excellently put, roxanna222.

All this talk that only Jesus is God etc and from that, I persume
you mean that christianity is the only true path is pure fake matrix
religion brainwashing.

Everybody talks about only so and so is God ...as if anyone of us
have the slighest idea what God or the incredible intelligence that
is behind the infinite manifestations all around us is?

How can any of us truely know what God is????......so how
can we deduce that some man called Jesus was God and only him?

As humans, at present we can perceive less than 1% of the
infinite frequencies that surround us.

Suren't we wait until we know more --before we start jumping to
conclusions that only so and so is God - and only one religion has
all the answers?

[peter19]

i do not conform to any religion(but get ideas from some of them). and i think doing that makes no diffrence anyways. unless you truely live a sacred life. just because you hold a thought-form/ belief that jesus is the one or even buddha or even your naibour it makes no diffrence. the thing what does make a diffrence is if you can recognize there essential nature in yourself. jesus or the buddha if they existed were not just lucky people you knew certain things. i think they become conscious more so and appeared to be enlightened ones or gods as some people thought of them.

what is enlightenment?. how can you say "i am truely aware and i now know everything there is to know"?. when you are judgeing that by the people you are around. it could just be diffrent levels of unconsciousness, or maybe some people do really become conscious to a degree.

duality in my oppinion is they are diffrent sides of the same coin. "you cant have good without bad, cant have right without wrong" maybe you can be the coin?. a state of behing what is beyond that but yet paradoxically is that. and every liveing thing has that state with in. that is what we all are and all come from.

in a sense i think we are like many facets of the same coin(our personalitys ect). but at the deepest level we are the coin. and the more conscious you become, the more you realize that.

[baron von lotsov]

Excellently put, roxanna222.

so how can we deduce that some man called Jesus was God and only him?




I understand the people of that time saw him do many miracles. That didn't take long to convince people when the terminally sick suddenly got better.

[them]

I don't believe in any of the Gods. Not the more popular ones like.. well God.. or the lesser ones like Brigit. There are simply just to many Gods to choose from.

I do firmly believe in probability though.. so I guess there's always a chance ;)

http://www.jimloy.com/egypt/gods.gif
a few of the Egyptian Gods who I don't believe in either

[james777]

They were aliens the people worshipped mistaken for gods.

For 100,000 years homosapiens walked this earth with not a sniff of technology, then all of a sudden WHAM! we are building pyramids.

Our civilisation is a result of alien intervention.

I don't know about 100,000 years, but the rest you say seems accurate.

[james777]

i do not conform to any religion(but get ideas from some of them). and i think doing that makes no diffrence anyways. unless you truely live a sacred life. just because you hold a thought-form/ belief that jesus is the one or even buddha or even your naibour it makes no diffrence. the thing what does make a diffrence is if you can recognize there essential nature in yourself. jesus or the buddha if they existed were not just lucky people you knew certain things. i think they become conscious more so and appeared to be enlightened ones or gods as some people thought of them.

what is enlightenment?. how can you say "i am truely aware and i now know everything there is to know"?. when you are judgeing that by the people you are around. it could just be diffrent levels of unconsciousness, or maybe some people do really become conscious to a degree.

duality in my oppinion is they are diffrent sides of the same coin. "you cant have good without bad, cant have right without wrong" maybe you can be the coin?. a state of behing what is beyond that but yet paradoxically is that. and every liveing thing has that state with in. that is what we all are and all come from.

in a sense i think we are like many facets of the same coin(our personalitys ect). but at the deepest level we are the coin. and the more conscious you become, the more you realize that.

Very interesting and note worthy. Maybe we are the coin, but being the coin still makes us part of the dollar.

[james777]

I understand the people of that time saw him do many miracles. That didn't take long to convince people when the terminally sick suddenly got better.

YES, I don't recall buddha or any other gods raising the dead, healing the sick or casting out demonic spirits.......

I think these are the type of things that proved he was above the 'human element'.........it is said that he did walk on water also......it's pretty hard to deny his status..

[james777]

I don't believe in any of the Gods. Not the more popular ones like.. well God.. or the lesser ones like Brigit. There are simply just to many Gods to choose from.

I do firmly believe in probability though.. so I guess there's always a chance ;)

http://www.jimloy.com/egypt/gods.gif
a few of the Egyptian Gods who I don't believe in either

Keep in mind, these gods are the gods of the civilization who held the God of Isreal's (the God of Isreal is believed to be the Creator of the universe) people in slavery and only released them due to many plaugues that fell upon them directly from the hand of God.

[intuition]

I think religion just makes people feel secure.End of the day its very scarey speanding your whole life wondering where you are going and where you came from, so people become religious so it gives them comfort and security.If we all knew there was nothing after this life, and even if there was we would be alone and unhappy, we couldnt possible enjoy our time here on earth.

[james777]

I think religion just makes people feel secure.End of the day its very scarey speanding your whole life wondering where you are going and where you came from, so people become religious so it gives them comfort and security.If we all knew there was nothing after this life, and even if there was we would be alone and unhappy, we couldnt possible enjoy our time here on earth.

The same can be said about being non-religious also.......

[john white]

I'm all Religions: yet no Religions are "me"

Becuase a map of a thing can never be the whole of the thing, and only God is the whole of everything

[the jock rock]

Hi , i'm a traditional Satanist. I specify-traditional as i don't want to be confused with lvs ect.
It is my faith and all of my forefathers as far back as is traceable.Faith is the wrong word as there is no faith involved.
The Master is present at all sacrifices and everyone sees him.
There is not much about real Satanism on the net but if you search you will find us.
Search through satannet.com and Letters to the Devil. If you are meant to find us you will. Oddly enough , there are more Devil Worshipers on this site than people realize.
Keep on spreading the False Light brethren.

[the jock rock]

I'm all Religions: yet no Religions are "me"

Becuase a map of a thing can never be the whole of the thing, and only God is the whole of everything
Right On! All in All .Peace and love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[the jock rock]

The same can be said about being non-religious also.......
Absolute truth! Keep up the good work and spread the knowledge.
Peace be upon you!!!!!!!!!

[the jock rock]

Religion is organized crime. It hijacks your soul and imprisons your consciousness.

I don't have a religion.
DON'T IT JUST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PEACE BE UPON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):)

[a fine naked fellow]

Freedom is my religion and I believe in it relentlessly. And the love that is synonymous with freedom.

Mutual intimacy in our divine ecstasy. :p :o :p

[the jock rock]

Hello. Iam joining the Catholic religion to become a nun. I will give myself and body over to Jesus Christ. Bless you all. Find your devoted paths to the almighty Father which is only through his son Jesus Christ.
Please let me know where you live so that i might sacrifice you on my alter to uprightness.LOL
Peace and Love.:D:p F B. W and S
KTB!
PEACE ON EVERYONE!

[the jock rock]

Freedom is my religion and I believe in it relentlessly. And the love that is synonymous with freedom.

Mutual intimacy in our divine ecstasy. :p :o :p
A_MEN A_MEN:D:D:D

[the jock rock]

Keep in mind, these gods are the gods of the civilization who held the God of Isreal's (the God of Isreal is believed to be the Creator of the universe) people in slavery and only released them due to many plaugues that fell upon them directly from the hand of God.
PEACE ON YOU BROTHER!
P on you!
POE
LOVE!!!!!
F Y ..YT!:p

[kasalt]

I was raised Catholic, converted to Assembly of God after accepting Jesus Christ as personal savior at 14. Last year, I came across Conspiracy of Silence on Google video. It shocked me to the core. Then I came across David Icke. Now, I reject all organized religions because of the control factor. I have begun to doubt that Jesus Christ ever really existed, because no Roman or Jewish historian of the first century even mentions him. There is only a one paragraph mention of Jesus in Josephus' Histories of the Jews, but even Christian scholars now admit that it was a forgery that was inserted by a Christian centuries later. Why was Christianity so dependent on lies in order to flourish?

But, if i had to pick one religious philosophy to live by, at this point it would be the Hare Krishna philosophy, although I am leary of joining ISKCON because of the severe problems it has had since the passing of their founder-acharya, Srila Prabhupada. But, the ISKCON religion preaches loving devotional service to God and practices vegetarianism. And if there is a personal God, then surely loving devotional service is the way to go. I'm not a full-fledged vegetarian myself yet, but I'm on my way, and I do think that the world--and our own individual karmas--would be better off if we stopped supporting the wholesale slaughter of so many poor animals. These animals have feelings--real emotions! Just watch a video of a rancher forcefully taking a calf from its mother cow, and watch it cry out in anguish, if you don't believe me. So, for my money, any religion worth anything at all in this world had better preach vegetarianism, otherwise it is no better than blood-lust. That is my opinion.

http://www.harekrishna.com/

Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare

[mandala]

I believe in God but not religion. I believe religion is more to do with rules than God, but people are entitled to their opinions and beliefs and i'll respect that so long as it causes no harm to anyone else. You can believe in stones as long as you don't throw them! (Can't remember where I read that but it seems to have stuck with me). :D

I came across this video and found it very interesting.
ZEITGEIST, The Movie - Part 1 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8461754114455236037)
I'm not saying I believe this or not, but it certainly rings an inner bell of truth within me.

Here's a small snippet from the book "Conversations with God" by Neale Donald Walsch (http://www.users.on.net/~crumpet/cwg.pdf) which also seems to ring true with me.

The answers lie on the inside :D

[roxanna222]

[ However I cannot agree with you on the fact that you may believe that we are 'God' ourselves. If this was true we would have all the answers.


Let me put it this way. Lets say that "god" is the ocean and we are droplets in that ocean. The essence is in the ocean. The droplets comprise the ocean therefore we are the ocean. That is what I mean when I say that we are all in essence "god". There is no separation really its an illusion. A particular perception.

We DO have all the answers. We just don't know it yet. Icke has said this as well. Its that "instant knowing" when you come across a truth something inside clicks you just "know" it.

We need to worry about our reality and take care of what we have now, because the future will take care of itself.
[/QUOTE]

We DONT need to worry. I do not want to worry. I dont want someone telling me to worry. Worry is fear. I dont want that.

Now with all that said I believe this but dont live by it much. What I mean is that one thing is to intellectually get it another is to incorporate it. Im working on this same as any other.

[synergy777]

christians need to wise up and realise the reason they get so much stick is that they blindly follow, this blind faith is found in all religions. blind faith to corrupted doctrine is of no use whatsoever, and merely plays into the fear based control the organised religions use as their powerbase. if you want to know the difference between sol invictus/mithras/wheat god and a real rebel/teacher/liberator, get to know yashuah and then wake up. it makes sense, anytime a people are opppressed, from them will come a person who has the courage/intelligence to liberate the people. from freedom fighters, to scientists, artists etc. remove the mythical mystery school stuff and try to see him as a regular person.

learn to discern, yashuah said this. jesus was not his name, there is no j in the hebrew alphabet, its yashuah = yah is salvation. the closet greek/english name is joshuah. yashuah ben yosef, as in yashuah son of joseph. yashuah traveled to many places to learn the truth, to see places, to interact with all people so that from his own experience he could overcome lies, prejudices of mass opinion. to live is to know, not to read, real life experience, real life pain, real life love etc.

yashuah said all of us are the same, we all have the potential, the kingdom of heaven is within, the kingdom of heaven, is your soul. look at his words as symbolic, metaphors etc. he said if you need to speak to the creator, go somewhere quiet, and talk to him/her, like a child to a parent, that personal connection. there is no need to have intermediaries/corrupt clergy, to have rituals, sacrifices, etc. the very people that conspired to kill/murder him, where then given carte blanche to spread his message, and yet we trust them. test them by their fruits, eg test them by their actions not words. look at the wars, pain these authroties have caused, one must be deluded to view these evil actions as love.

i know its scary, volatile, knowing the true nature of life, but fear not, for in you resides an eternal soul, in you is the love/power/blessing of the creator. recognise your divinty, you are not a god, but a wonderful, creation. everybody is the son/daughter of the creator, that was his message, he said when i am the son of god, that he was a creation of the creator, like all of us. he wanted to show you to have love, trust, confidence in yourself, so you could fulfill your potential. the elite hide this, to stop you recognising your own power, and to keep them in control.

http://www.davidpbrown.co.uk/nota-bene/mar...williamson.html

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It is our Light, not our darkness that most frightens us.

We ask ourselves -- Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?

Actually, who are we not to be?

You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people do not feel insecure around you. We were born to manifest the Glory of God that is within us. It is not just in some of us, it is in everyone.

And as we let our light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fears, our presence automatically liberates others.

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http://www.mondovista.com/jesus/index.html

check the pics from the tibetan monastries, mindblowing stuff peepz.

http://www.mondovista.com/Jjesus.html

This article will undoubtedly anger some Christians. And, in a way, that will only affirm my motives for writing it. Anger and hate seem to permeate any discussion about the historical Jesus, especially from those who claim to believe in a person who spoke mainly about love and kindness. But there may be a reason for this, as I hope this article will reveal.

Belief in Jesus, Christianity, is more than a philosophy. It is the belief that a deity -- something non-human -- incarnated as a human man some two thousand years ago, was killed by a political and religious power, and then re-animated his life. So powerful is the belief in the resurrection of Jesus that it all to frequently obscures the teachings of this remarkable person. (on purpose, question the church/pope, and you are wrong, standard mind control technique, when yashuah said himself question everything/discern/test them by their fruits not words)

What most people know about Jesus comes from the Bible. This literary work contains his biography and teachings, as told by writers who, as many believe, lived in the first couple of centuries following Jesus' life. No place in the Bible is Jesus ever quoted as saying he was a deity. No place in the Bible does Jesus instruct his deciples that he should be worshipped as a god. In fact, the repeated message of Jesus was that he, and all of us, are part of the family or "kingdom" of the "Father" -- the One God who created everything -- and that this kingdom is bound together by selfless love.

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i posted the pictures to show different cultures all have representations of yashuah/issa, its not a strictly european thing, as often christian is automatically connected to european and ignores the asian aspect. there are many rumours, eg the tomb at srinagar/kashmir etc. i think the most important things is the message and its correlation with krishna and buddha message, its the same. so what could one deduce from this, well maybe buddha, yashuah were all based on the original krishna, or as some hindus believe, all these were incarnations of the same spirit who visits in times of peril, the last one being now, kalki. to me krishna is the earliest "saviour/teacher", and the subsequent ones all follow same pattern/message. there is a book, called the worlds 12 crucified saviours, something like that. from osiris, yashuah etc all follow the same blueprint. also as for thomas, gnostic, nag hammadhi etc, you have be weary of them, as they could be opposames created by the elite.

to be honest the only important things is the message, not the texts, teachers/messenger. see if regular people like us have spoke of this message from our own deduction, and it mirrors the message of the teachers, then we need not argue about semantics, differences. it also shows us that the message, is a simple spirtual/universal truth, and is accessible and within us all eg akashic. maybe when a person truly opens himself up, the message is what he/she finds inside. the truth is within. in my view the universal truth is a simple and logical one, quite a paradox. if a hfa/aspie gen x slacker like me can work it out, then anyone can.

i am a sikh, sanskrit for disciple/searcher, we are supposed to learn about all religions. although an unorthodox sikh would be a more accurate description.

[bigus_dickus]

i think i believe in synergy777 :cool:

[synergy777]

blasphemy bigus, don't believe in me, believe in yourself, and you will come to the truth. i could be wrong, misleading you, discern for yourself bro.

Albert Camus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/albert_camus.html

like albert camus said:""Don't walk behind me; I may not lead. Don't walk in front of me; I may not follow. Just walk beside me and be my friend"" or bro, lol

""I know of only one duty, and that is to love""

""I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is. ""

""Man is an idea, and a precious small idea once he turns his back on love.""

and his best:""In the depth of winter I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer.""

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i think i believe in synergy777 :cool:
Unique ....and duty free shop under the gates. (http://samchuiphotos.com/Lebanon/Etihad8.jpg)

blasphemy bigus, don't believe in me, believe in yourself...
""I know of only one duty, and that is to love""

[synergy777]

that structure looks reptillian, bad vibes. the green tiles look like scales, lol

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The Garden> (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/4064066OunKXqCceD)http://thumb2.webshots.net/s/thumb1/2/86/9/6228609dDcOWcwxFy_th.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1006228609012024742dDcOWcwxFy)
http://thumb2.webshots.net/s/thumb3/3/59/70/33235970QkcLFs_th.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1033235970012024742QkcLFs)
Duty of Love
The First duty of love ~ is to listen. ~Paul Tillich~
Cheerful heart--- (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/7149530kDiSAIesfq?track_pagetag=/page/photo/homegarden/flowers&track_action=/DB/Album)please Log in >http://thumb2.webshots.net/s/thumb3/5/10/38/7151038WTdgBQTMSJ_th.jpg (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/1007151038012024742WTdgBQTMSJ)
A glad heart makes a cheerful countenance......a cheerful heart has a cibtubyak feast ~Proverbs 15:13-15

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http://www.profimusic.com/catalog/catalog/images/adagio%20-%20into%20eternity.jpg

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What is religion?

..?

Da-ma
Dha-ma
Dhamma

....school.

The Dhammapada and...
..a collection of discourses; being one of the canonical books of the (http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/sbe10/index.htm)...


Sacred-texts

http://www.sacred-texts.com/sbe/library.jpg
Sacred
Books
of the
East
Index (http://www.sacred-texts.com/sbe/index.htm)

[blane777]

My personal Religion is the religion of "Self".I believe in me and my intuition and that is what i follow,i dont need no book's bibles,doctrines blah blah blah and ive spent almost 31 years doing this..It has not failed me yet but alas many challenges it has presented.

[synergy777]

that boat looks like a perfect sanctuary.

heer a follow up to the yashuah/message post, message and nature of realities.


http://fusionanomaly.net/holographicuniverse.html

Holographic principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Holonomic brain theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/01jan/holographic.html

holographic structure = macro in the micro, infinite fractual. its holographic, but holographs are real. its energy, wave/particle duality, influenced by the observer effect = consenus reality/laws programmed into us from school/observation that help the ego/brain uphold the elite sponsered view.

electromagnetic/electrostatic forces. the ancients call it maya/illusion, as it is real but not solid/many dimensions, not thats its false, as even illusion is "real". also the very fact that atoms are 99% empty/hollow, logically suggest/shows " how can we be 100% solid, as the very manner of construction is from these atom/components".

its just devasating to the ego, to realise we are not solid, its a mindfuck. look i can feel, hold, etc, but its not really solid. this type of stuff causes man to become crazy. the sad thing is that its from science, not myth.

http://www.holoscience.com/
The Electric Universe is a holistic answer to myopia* -that narrowing of vision which naturally accompanies the fragmentation of knowledge and learning

http://www.the-electric-universe.info/

http://www.kronia.com/electric.html

http://www.thunderbolts.info/

“From the smallest particle to the largest galactic formation, a web of electrical circuitry connects and unifies all of nature, organizing galaxies, energizing stars, giving birth to planets and, on our own world, controlling weather and animating biological organisms. There are no isolated islands in an electric universe".

David Talbott and Wallace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_(illusion)

Maya (Sanskrit माया māyā[1] ), in Hinduism, is a term describing many things. Maya is the phenomenal world of separate objects and people, which creates for some the illusion that it is the only reality. For the mystics this manifestation is real, but it is a fleeting reality; it is a mistake, although a natural one, to believe that maya represents a fundamental reality. Each person, each physical object, from the perspective of eternity is like a brief, disturbed drop of water from an unbounded ocean. The goal of enlightenment is to understand this —more precisely, to experience this: to see intuitively that the distinction between the self and the universe is a false dichotomy. The distinction between consciousness and physical matter, between mind and body (refer bodymind), is the result of an unenlightened perspective.

In Hinduism, Maya must be seen through in order to achieve moksha (liberation of the soul from the cycle of death and rebirth) - ahamkar (ego-consciousness) and karma are seen as part of the binding forces of Maya. Maya is seen as the phenomenal universe, a lesser reality-lens superimposed on the one Brahman that leads us to think of the phenomenal cosmos as real. Maya is also visualized as part of the Divine Mother (Devi) concept of Hinduism. In the Hindu scripture 'Devi Mahatmyam,' Mahamaya (Great Maya) is said to cover Vishnu's eyes in Yoganidra (Divine Sleep) during cycles of existence when all is resolved into one. By exhorting Mahamaya to release Her illusory hold on Vishnu, Brahma is able to bring Vishnu to aid him in killing two demons, Madhu and Kaitabh, who have manifested from Vishnu's sleeping form. Shri Ramakrishna often spoke of Mother Maya and combined deep Hindu allegory with the idea that Maya is a lesser reality that must be overcome so that one is able to realize his or her true Self.

Maya in Hindu philosophy

In Advaita Vedanta philosophy, maya is the limited, purely physical and mental reality in which our everyday consciousness has become entangled. Maya is believed to be an illusion, a veiling of the true, unitary Self—the Cosmic Spirit also known as Brahman. The concept of Maya was expounded in the Hindu scriptures known as the Upanishads. Many philosophies or religions seek to "pierce the veil" in order to glimpse the transcendent truth, from which the illusion of a physical reality springs, drawing from the idea that first came to life in the Hindu stream of Vedanta. Maya is neither true nor untrue. Since Brahman is the only truth, Maya cannot be true. Since Maya causes the material world to be seen, it cannot be untrue. Hence, Maya is described as indescribable. She has two principle functions—one is to cover up Brahman and hide it from our mind. The other is to present the material world instead of Brahman. She is destructible. Consider an illusion of a rope being confused as a snake in the darkness. Just as this illusion gets destroyed when true knowledge of the rope is perceived, similarly, Maya gets destroyed for a person when they perceive Brahman with transendental knowledge. A metaphor is also given—when the reflection of Brahman falls on Maya, Brahman appears as God (the Supreme Lord). In the pragmatic level, where the world is regarded as true, Maya becomes the divine magical power of the Supreme Lord, to create and rule the world. Maya is God's pious servant. God is not bound by Maya, just as a magician is not illusioned by their own magic. Hence, God is Bliss. However, unenlightened jiva are the servants of Maya, hence they are in misery.

In Hinduism, Maya must be seen through in order to achieve moksha (liberation of the soul from the cycle samsara) —ahamkar (ego-consciousness) and karma are seen as part of the binding forces of Maya. Maya is seen as the phenomenal universe, a lesser reality-lens superimposed on the one Brahman that leads us to think of the phenomenal cosmos as real.

http://www.sanatansociety.org/yoga_and_meditation/hinduism_philosophy_maya_illusion.htm

the plato/matrix analogy is cool, this the game theory.

""spiritual unity (your soul/atman and the creator/cosmic soul) is lost in the obsession/fascination of the game/life. when its in a sport eg football, running, its called the zone. you are totally immersed, engrossed in the game, for that peroid of time, everything external, stops, you just focus on the game/task. from the startline until the finishline, you are in the game/zone/life. after you go past the finish/fulltime/death, you come out of that zone/game/life, back into reality/spirtual realm.

is then life like the game/race, birth/death being the start/finish. hence while in life, you forget the reality, before and after, and totally believe, immerse yourself into the game/life, forgetting the truth/reality beyond the game/life. so life being a holodeck/matrix, reality, but a lesser reality than the eternal spirtual realm""


1 love, peace. edit if you were a chick, you'd be one cool hippy chick.

[ngawaka19]

james I can't cope with your christian thing man. chill pill dude.

but if you have to know........

I'm a rastafarian with a 50 50 buddist fusion, my church is my body, and my God is always and forever with me, kind of centre to left in my chest.

arohatinonui

Actually I'm so not.........the correct way to say this is.......I aspire to being 1/2 rastafarian 1/2 buddist. I'm no where near brave enough to say I could ever reach the higher ground of some. I will try too and hopefully by the end of my lifetime (2012) LoL. I might come close.

Your alright james

arohanui
ngawaka

[synergy777]

"I'm a rastafarian with a 50 50 buddist fusion" have a look at sikhism, yahweh=wahe, they have the nazarite vow too, vegetarian, saint/soldier. sikh is sanskrit for disciple/seeker

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Main_Page

[ngawaka19]

Chur synergy777 tu meke

Tena koe brother, thanks for that.

[synergy777]

its all good, bro. not really religous, myself, too corrupted with d'evils, lol dead flesh, drink, weed, chicks, money etc.

[bigus_dickus]

religion is not so simple to define and classify. because each person or group of people have their own way to define it, or have their own way to be religious or not.

if i am to distinguish religion from any other kind of belief system, i would have to say that it is a belief system that requires some degree of devotion to its principles, hence prayer and rituals, unlike other belief systems that we may have, but do not constantly think about.

but then again, i am going to have to include science and even atheism in the religious belief systems and many others that people generally don't consider religions. and i would do that, simply because they require the same kind of belief to "invisible" and unknown things and forces, they require the same devotion, rituals and faith. for example, a scientific methodology of an experiment, is not greatly different from a religious ritual. even a simple mathematical equation is nothing different than a dogma! it is simply a convention that one plus one equals two, since "one" as a number is not something that exists, but it is something believed to exist, so it can be added to another "one" and make a "two". for example, we can never add an apple to an apple and get an appleapple, we get two different apples, that are not added, they are simply brought closer to each other.

from that perspective, we are all religious beyond imagination, without even knowing so. repetitive thinking patterns and actions based on beliefs and routines and dogmas, even scientific 'facts' and any kind of 'knowledge' that we think we possess, is simply an illusion. all these are systems within systems and systems are ever changing, ever blending with each other, ever transcending, decaying, dying and new systems evolve in their place. religions are systems designed by us -the people, the enlightened ones-, to shape our society in a way that we feel appropriate for each region and culture. thus religions present the same structural characteristics of the societies, governments, cultures and even the basic structural models of people's families and other organizations. for example, in monotheistic religious societies, every system is governed by a boss: the president. who often is attributed with 'god like' properties, or even portrayed as God in person. In polytheistic societies, there are many bosses, or even the people are the boss and the governor is the servant.

having said all the above, i cannot claim that i am not religious at least in one aspect. for example, if i am an artist, then music is my religion in a way. it is always in my mind, i believe that god, or the universe, or something creates all the sounds of the world and i feel grateful to have the ability to put them together, create harmony and rhythm and compose a musical piece that makes sense. or that makes senses go dum-dee-dum-dee-dum.

but, if you ask me what my ultimate religion is, i don't know if i am able to answer, because i don't really know. i guess i am all of them.. all i want to be is love, so whatever love is, i am it. i don't have to do something special to be love, all i have to do is not do anything and just be it. then i realize that i have always been it, except for the times that i have pretended to be something else.

[truthseeker1980]

Are we not all BOLLOCKISTS???

Suprised to see not one person mention that.

I have never been religious, as I never beleived all the crap, how can anyone follow any religion, when they don't even know the author of the books, they were written hundreds of years after the stories were supposed to have happened and most are more unbeleivable than even the most inconceavable conspiricy theory.

So I'm a:

Bollockist would have said atheist before reading the INFINITE LOVE IS THE ONLY TRUTH.. but bollockist sounds better and I think is a better description of all religions.

[sweet cheeks]

What is religion?

RELIGION- the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power : a personal God or gods

Why do we have it? Do we feel the need to be labelled? Is the labelling just another plot against us by Satan(prison warders)?

Religion is funny. It's a means by which people come together for the betterment of spirituality, right? Well why has it shifted toward angry hatred to others who believe differently? God himself tells us;

James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

How have we been divided up into different religions and now sub-divided within the religions. Can't you people see this is the typical 'divide and rule' trick. We're being defeated on 'ALL' sides here.

I'm a follower of Jesus Christ, my label I suppose is Christain. I believe this religion because I've eliminated all other possibilities and have found undeniable truth within.

What is your religion and why do you believe in it?

Well, for me, thanks to the old david icke forum, I have no beliefs anymore.

Beliefs kill, and kills the mind, I have "discernment" and......

I watch people bickering back and forth across forums about it (religion) which is infinatley more entertaining! ;)

[blane777]

Hi , i'm a traditional Satanist. I specify-traditional as i don't want to be confused with lvs ect.
It is my faith and all of my forefathers as far back as is traceable.Faith is the wrong word as there is no faith involved.
The Master is present at all sacrifices and everyone sees him.
There is not much about real Satanism on the net but if you search you will find us.
Search through satannet.com and Letters to the Devil. If you are meant to find us you will. Oddly enough , there are more Devil Worshipers on this site than people realize.
Keep on spreading the False Light brethren.

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[synergy777]

jocks a real hoot, do anything for a laugh, lol blane nice avatar, lol

[blane777]

Are we not all BOLLOCKISTS???

Suprised to see not one person mention that.

I have never been religious, as I never beleived all the crap, how can anyone follow any religion, when they don't even know the author of the books, they were written hundreds of years after the stories were supposed to have happened and most are more unbeleivable than even the most inconceavable conspiricy theory.

So I'm a:

Bollockist would have said atheist before reading the INFINITE LOVE IS THE ONLY TRUTH.. but bollockist sounds better and I think is a better description of all religions.


But if you class yourself as a "Bollockist" then you too are confirmining to a mindset,may as well be a religion and then you may as well have wool on ya back mate ;)

[synergy777]

i am glad to see the 777, a lot of people are using it now, its all good.

[blane777]

Hang on mate.I'll change my name and make the numbers more random for you,pick 3 numbers any combination will do just not 777 if you please.

[eternal_spirit]

Hello. Iam joining the Catholic religion to become a nun. I will give myself and body over to Jesus Christ. Bless you all. Find your devoted paths to the almighty Father which is only through his son Jesus Christ.

Plase tell me this is not true. It's a joke right lol?

[eternal_spirit]

No I'm not religous and I'll tell you why. I don't need it, I've read, studied known religous people and can't see how it would make me a better wiser person.

I'm better than God anyway, he has nothing on me LOL :D