Black Mass

[eternal_spirit]

Black Mass:http://religion-cults.com/Occult/Satanism/satan2.gif
This is the ultimate rite for a real Satanist to obtain magic powers: A blasphemous Mass, where the altar is a nude woman, and the vagina is the tabernacle. If possible, a real Host stolen from a Catholic Church is placed in the vagina in the midst of reciting distorted psalms with hot musicand all kind of obscenities, coursing Jesus and honoring Satan. The fake priest ends up having real sex, with the Host still in the vagina.
... If a baby can be slaughtered during the ritual, they will drink his blood and eat his flesh, to mimic the most the Eucharist...
. .. Ideally, a Black Mass is to be celebrated by a "real heretic Priest", that, even in sin, can celebrate Mass effectively.
- The prayers end with the strongestexpression of Satanism: "Shemhaforash", the word pronounced by God when he created the World, and, while spitting on a cross or stepping on it, they all cry out "Hail, Satan".
. .. And, of course, it may end up with a sexual orgy with all kind of abominations and abuses, under the influence of drugs

[eternal_spirit]

"The Society of the Dark Lily", is run by a women who suffers from multiple sclerosis. The farm in Scotland where she lives is the headquarters of the organization, and the scene of debauched, sadistic beating of naked young girls.

Temple of Set":
It is an offspring of LaVey's Church of Satan, founded in 1975 by US Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino, with 1,000 members. The name "Set" comes from the Egyptian god Set-Ham. It claims to be more moral than the Church of Satan!... but Aquino maintains an avid interest in Nazi culture, and Nazi insignia are occasionally worn by members of the Temple.

[eternal_spirit]

Why are these guys so scared of Christ??? On "The Satanic Bible", the "9 Satanic Statements" claim that "Satan represents indulgence, instead of abstinence". Represents materialism, instead of pipe dreams. Vengeance, instead of turning the other cheek. Satan represents man as just another animal, more often worse, the most vicious animal of all!.

... "Here and now is our day of joy", proclaims, "eye for eye, tooth for tooth, aye four-fold, a hundred fold!"... kindness to those who deserve it, but if you want to kill them, do it!, morally or physically, because the main doctrine is "do what you want".

In "The Satanic Rituals", there are some of the highly offensive and blasphemous words for a Black Mass: "Thou, thou who, in my capacity of Priest, I force, weather thou wilt or no, to descend into this host, to incarnate thyself into this bread Jesus, artisan of hoaxes, bandit of homages, robber of affection- hear!... O lasting foulness of Bethlehem, we would have thee confess thy impudent cheats, thy inexplicable crimes!. We would drive deeper the nails into thy hands, press down the crown of thorns upon thy brow, and bring blood from the dry wounds...
... cursed Nazarene, abstractor of stupid parities, impotent king, fugitive god!... O Infernal Majesty, condemn him to the pit, evermore to suffer in perpetual anguish. Bring Thy wrath upon him, O Prince of Darkness..."

[eternal_spirit]

The "Traditional", hate Christianity, celebrate the Black Mass, in the cup they drink blood of a sacrificial animal or human, to mimic the Mass.
- "Nontraditional", from Neo-Platonism, Eastern Mysticism, and Islam, or off-shots of the Kabbalah, Theosophy, Rosicrucianism, Freemasonry... the "blood" they drink is not necessarily a parody of the Catholic Mass, but to partake of the "fire energy" that blood provides

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

u seem to know alot about the church of satan, you sounds like a blurb for the satanic bible :p lol

[kooo]

That was an interesting read, never read about a black mass before. I don't think I'll ever look at a Jesus/Christianity hater in the same way again. Got some serious suspicions about one or two people already, been feeling uncomfortable about them for a while now. They put on a friendly front but the things they say.... not good.

[eternal_spirit]

That was an interesting read, never read about a black mass before. I don't think I'll ever look at a Jesus/Christianity hater in the same way again. Got some serious suspicions about one or two people already, been feeling uncomfortable about them for a while now. They put on a friendly front but the things they say.... not good.


Yes well if the alarm bells start ringing time to trust you're intuition and go with what you feel then you'll know it's more than things they say.

What I have noticed whilst researching this stuff, that the different groups of Satanists spin the same spiel on their web sites, on how they introduce you to what their beliefs and rituals are about. It always starts off saying satan was the true rebel and freedom fighter......because he rebelled against God's rules blah blah yawn. And how they are supposed to give you more power as an individual.

It's misleading they have a heirachy same as any religion, with texts and rituals to follow, which as usual claim to make you a better person.
It's hard to explain
If you read the introductions on their sites, You may see the contradictions that I keep seeing time and time again. They tell you something then twist it into another truth or lie further down the page. This is so obvious to see at times but can also be well hidden unless you have the knowledge of some previous research.

[kooo]

This is going to be my next reading project. I can't believe I've been so dumb in not putting the jigsaw together, too trusting. If these people are Satanists then that means they would be prepared to sacrifice animals and I love animals so these people can never be a part of my life. Also, I wouldn't want to insult or be disrespectful to God if you know what I mean, I'm not even particularly religious but I do respect God.

I really will read up more on this stuff.

[ashyr]

these people.

which collection are you rounding up now?

[eternal_spirit]

IV
The Black Mass Introduction:
The Black Mass is a ceremonial ritual with a threefold purpose. First, it is a positive inversion of the mass of the Nazarene church, and in this sense is a rite Black Magick (see the 'Guide to Black Magick'). Second it is a means of personal liberation from the chains of Nazarene dogma and thus a blasphemy: a ritual to liberate unconscious feelings. Third, it is a magickal rite in itself, that is, correct performance generates magickal energy which the celebrant can direct.

read the whole ceremony/ritual here

http://camlad9.tripod.com/bbs1.html#IV

[eternal_spirit]

http://user.cyberlink.ch/%7Ekoenig/elixir.jpgStranded Bishops

Halfway considering the duties of the Manichaean Elect (to concentrate the Light, the sparkling leftover when the Logos spermatikos left man, imprisoned in matter, by consuming such foods) Crowley neglected the ascetic aspect of Manicheism (who avoided activities which would tend to disperse that Light) but concentrated upon building up a brilliant Body of Light fitted for return to the Blessed Realm. (37*)
For his Holy Host Crowley gave a recipe using blood and sperm. (38*) In order to avoid a HIV-infection the current American O.T.O. (the 1977- founded "Caliphate") advises to bake the host at 160 degree Fahrenheit in the oven. (39*) The IXth becomes a parody of the Christian Eucharist with further refinements of the techniques related to the consumption of the Elixir/Host. Absorption occurs through the mucous membrane of the roof of the mouth, rather than swallowing it because the delicate protein fabric enveloping the essence will get broken down by the acids of the digestive system before it has had a chance to integrate into the mind-body symbiosis. In the case of the mouth there is the digestive activity of the saliva. This must also affect the "delicate protein fabric enveloping the essence" to some degree, the longer it is kept in the mouth.
In 1983 this new O.T.O. group decided "that at the 9* level there are no politics. It is an autocratic structure. The qualifications of the 9* are only significant to the 9*. Their qualifications are only of interest to other 9*." [Minutes of the 28 March 1983 meeting]
The "Caliphate"-"Gnostic Church" also parodies the Roman Catholic traditions in introducing offices like "Patriarch", "Archbishop", "Bishop", (Novitiate) "Priest"/"Priestess" and "Deacon" (Priest and Deacon already appear in Reuss/Crowley's Gnostic Mass of the 1910s) (21*). Nowadays, they offer services like: Baptism Ceremony for a Child, Baptism Ceremony for an Adult, Confirmation Ceremony, Ceremony for Ordination of a Deacon, A Wedding Ceremony, A Ceremony for a Greater Feast for Death, A Basic Exorcism Rite (there seems to be a growing emphasis on exorcism), A Ceremony for Visitation and Administration of the Virtues to the Sick; they have a Saintship (no woman appears on this list) and Animal Benefictions [once at http://www.scarletwoman.org/soter/beastb.htm].(43* (http://www.scarletwoman.org/soter/beastb.htm%5D.%2843*))
Christian prayers are attached also to the "Caliphate"-V*-ritual: "The Litany of the Holy Name of Jesus", "The Litany of St. Joseph" and "The Litany of the Blessed Virgin Mary". This is to be taken as reference to the Aeonic Magus of the LAST Aeon, as a reminder that these Great Cycles build each upon the others ... also that the True Master was not at all the political hatchet job made of Him by Paulism. These prayers (that is, the initiation rituals) are accompanied by music of Mozart, Holst, Strauss, Mahler and the like. (44*)
Obviously unaware of the traditional meaning of the expression "Wandering Bishops" (http://user.cyberlink.ch/%7Ekoenig/bishops.htm), some of their "bishops" call themselves "Landed Bishops".

[clipwip]

A little bit off-topic, but thought I'd use this opportunity to bring up the beauty of the greatest "Black Mass" ever created: Alexander Scriabin's Sonata #9:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsexnvxy26I

It's an incredibly difficult piece both technically and musically and I think this guy's interpretation is shit, but he does hit the right notes. I highly recommend buying a collection of all the Scriabin Sonatas by Ruth Laredo or Vladimir Ashkenazy. The 2 Horowitz CDs are also excellent, and one of them contains this Sonata.

The name of the Sonata was suggested by a friend b/c Scriabin's 7th Sonata was named the "White Mass" and after Scriabin played the 9th for this person, the guy said something like, "well this must be your Black Mass, then." Scriabin was genuinely afraid of this piece and would wince when playing it, and never (or almost never) played it in concert. Scriabin did, however, approve of the title.

[eternal_spirit]

These people are dedicated nuts.

[clipwip]

These people are dedicated nuts.

If you're referring to ud pianists; we indeed are! Spending 5 or so hours a day by yourself in a small room slaving away will turn pretty much anyone into a bit of a nut, and most people who would do that are already nuts to begin with!

I actually don't practice nearly that much these days, but I did during some periods in my life.

[eternal_spirit]

If you're referring to ud pianists; we indeed are! Spending 5 or so hours a day by yourself in a small room slaving away will turn pretty much anyone into a bit of a nut, and most people who would do that are already nuts to begin with!

I actually don't practice nearly that much these days, but I did during some periods in my life.

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LOL. Us guitar players are even nuttier. I meant the people who partake in the Black mass, they wear the nutters crown.

But hey practice makes perfect, and there is some truth in that. There are no short cuts when it comes to learning every possible sound you can muster.

[drael]

Bunch of baloney. Stuff made up by christians and overzelous sunday school teachers.

Ive met several satanists. Nice people, wouldnt know the first thing about black or any other kind of magick. They definately werent involved in anything like "black mass".

If you want to know about real black magick, i could probably point you in the right direction. There is some scary stuff out there, just not to do with satan.

[eternal_spirit]

Bunch of baloney. Stuff made up by christians and overzelous sunday school teachers.

Ive met several satanists. Nice people, wouldnt know the first thing about black or any other kind of magick. They definately werent involved in anything like "black mass".

If you want to know about real black magick, i could probably point you in the right direction. There is some scary stuff out there, just not to do with satan.

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Anti Christ is what they're all about. If you'd bother to read the whole mass. One of the main themes, is to curse Christians and Christ. They wouldn't call themselves Satanists, or have a belief in Satan otherwise. They just can't help give themselves away with the anti Christian spiel. I've seen and heard it all so many times before.

Feel free to post anything Drael. Btw, have you heard of the Jewish blood libel? And the hate, sacrafice rituals they also carry out on Christians. It would appear to be connected to Satanism.

[seer74]

Bunch of baloney. Stuff made up by christians and overzelous sunday school teachers.

Ive met several satanists. Nice people, wouldnt know the first thing about black or any other kind of magick. They definately werent involved in anything like "black mass".

If you want to know about real black magick, i could probably point you in the right direction. There is some scary stuff out there, just not to do with satan.

see my posts under aleister crowley, anton lavey, and your thread why is satanism paired with child abuse? I think they about sum it up.

[seer74]

[QUOTE=eternal_spirit;189933]...............

LOL. Us guitar players are even nuttier. /QUOTE]

yeah, we sure are, aren't we? I once had a really good friend, taught me my first guitar chords, guy played the 6-string like nobody's business. He lost it big-time I mean he went absolutly hAyWiRe!!! Got himself possessed, actually. I mention him in REPTILIANS on the Who's seen A reptilian? thread.

[eternal_spirit]

[quote=eternal_spirit;189933]...............

LOL. Us guitar players are even nuttier. /QUOTE]

yeah, we sure are, aren't we? I once had a really good friend, taught me my first guitar chords, guy played the 6-string like nobody's business. He lost it big-time I mean he went absolutly hAyWiRe!!! Got himself possessed, actually. I mention him in REPTILIANS on the Who's seen A reptilian? thread.

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Yes, some would say the same about me. I've felt possessed, but never been able to figure out if it was evil spirits, or man made psychotronic electronic harassment. Even both.

Btw your signature sums it up lol.

[eternal_spirit]

Bunch of baloney. Stuff made up by christians and overzelous sunday school teachers.


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Seems you don't believe any of it. The Order of the nine angles are traditional satanists, this goes way back in time. Not some modern pseudo satanic sect.

You realize many Christians don't believe that the Church persecuted and put witches, satanists etc to death. There isn't any real evidence to suggest they did. Only written accounts in the History books. But this is one of the main lies the Satanists use to draw people into their cults. To make out they're the good guys and the Christians are the bad ones. Go figure.

There is more evidence, including modern day documented cases of satanic style ritual murder and sacrafice. Mutilated bodies turn up and it makes the news from time to time. There's even some cases where the satanists have confessed to ritual killings.

[drael]

Okay look, i wont step on your beleifs, your totally entitled to your opinion. You believe there is satanism involved with the NWO. Thats fine.

My understanding is that the serpent is the puppet master of the puppet masters, and even "they" dont know the Annunuki exist. My understanding is that black magick is usually based around the most ancient of rituals, which are basically beyond manipulation (Partly because of coding), from the ancient world before the draco found this galaxy. YMMV. "They" are not the only influence in our galaxy.

We can agree to differ here. But ultimately -

No one knows anything ;)

[eternal_spirit]

Egyptian-Masonic-Satanic Connection (http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/Freemasonry/egyptian_masonic_satanic_connection_foreword.htm)
Freemasonry and the Mystery Religions (http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/Freemasonry/freemasonry_and_mystery_religions.htm)
Aliester Crowley, 33° Mason, Human Sacrifice (http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/Freemasonry/aliester_crowley_33_degree_Mason_knew_about_human_ sacrifice.htm)
Egyptian Mystery Religion and Masonic Lodge (http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/Freemasonry/link_between_the_egyptian_mysteries_and_masonic_lo dge.htm)
Satanic Ritual Abuse (http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/Freemasonry/satanic_ritual_abuse.htm)
Black Masonry Devoted to the Knowledge of Evil (http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/Freemasonry/black_masonry_devoted_to_the_knowledge_of_evil.htm )
Freemasonry and Satanic Ritual Abuse (http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/Freemasonry/freemasonry_and_satanic_ritual_abuse.htm)

[eternal_spirit]

THE MASONIC LODGE AND THE EGYPTIAN MYSTERY RELIGION
As the Mystery Religions spread all over the world from Babylon, they found expression in all countries of the ancient world with only a change in the names of the gods and slight variations in the rituals. While the mystery religions were practiced in all of the countries of the ancient world, it was in Egypt where centuries of devotion developed them to their highest degree.
According to Mason Manly P. Hall's book Freemasonry of the Ancient Egyptians:

[drael]

So do you beleive the masons were in egypt?

I personally wouldnt call any of this stuff satanic, i would call it black magick. But lets call that semantics for our purposes.

My beleif is that the ancient mysteries are generally a good thing, a means to freedom from the oppression of the NWO. Sure they use the rituals etc. But thats how they keep power over us, by hiding the mystery from us, the nature of reality. The rituals of the ancient world/egypt are a key to our freedom, coded in such a form, and past form the original in secret so it lies beyond corruption from the NWO. Thats why half of the secret societies existed, to keep the truth alive so the NWO/dark forces werent the only ones to have it.

Something _like_ black mass occurs sure. I cant speak for the freemasons, they are a weird bunch they may practice satanism for all i know. I didnt read all of the links but i got an idea. They certainly arent the organisation at the centre of the NWO though, they are recruitment at best (the masons).

The bohemian grove is alot like a satanic ritual. They do magick, do drugs, have sex with animals and children and discuss world politics and economics. Its just like camp only f**kd up.

To me its satanic if they specifically worship a big red guy with horns. Maybe thats tied into black mass etc some of the time but IMO its not a majority of what NWO is about.

Those links seem to be implying that all mystery teachings involved sex magick and even "human sacrifice". This is simply misrepresentative.

There was also something about all mystery teaching being descended from the sins of babylon?? I think were reading a different bible on that one man! to me bablyon is about the arrogance of those who would judge or stand before god..?

Thats sounds like some serious witch burning talk?!! As a follower of the ancient mysteries, i was honestly quite shocked at the prejudice.

[seer74]

So do you beleive the masons were in egypt?

I personally wouldnt call any of this stuff satanic, i would call it black magick. But lets call that semantics for our purposes.

My beleif is that the ancient mysteries are generally a good thing, a means to freedom from the oppression of the NWO. Sure they use the rituals etc. But thats how they keep power over us, by hiding the mystery from us, the nature of reality. The rituals of the ancient world/egypt are a key to our freedom, coded in such a form, and past form the original in secret so it lies beyond corruption from the NWO. Thats why half of the secret societies existed, to keep the truth alive so the NWO/dark forces werent the only ones to have it.

Something _like_ black mass occurs sure. I cant speak for the freemasons, they are a weird bunch they may practice satanism for all i know. I didnt read all of the links but i got an idea. They certainly arent the organisation at the centre of the NWO though, they are recruitment at best (the masons).

The bohemian grove is alot like a satanic ritual. They do magick, do drugs, have sex with animals and children and discuss world politics and economics. Its just like camp only f**kd up.

To me its satanic if they specifically worship a big red guy with horns. Maybe thats tied into black mass etc some of the time but IMO its not a majority of what NWO is about.

Those links seem to be implying that all mystery teachings involved sex magick and even "human sacrifice". This is simply misrepresentative.

There was also something about all mystery teaching being descended from the sins of babylon?? I think were reading a different bible on that one man! to me bablyon is about the arrogance of those who would judge or stand before god..?

Thats sounds like some serious witch burning talk?!! As a follower of the ancient mysteries, i was honestly quite shocked at the prejudice.

i agree, the mysteries, once shared with all are certainly keys to freedom from the NWO. however, the whole reason why they are mysteries is because the Mystery Cults were and are all about hordeing and keeping secret the knowledge...
and no one's suggesting (well at least I'm not) we should burn anyone at the stake, just all be aware. That's far more usefull than witch-hunts, those just wind up aimed at innocent healers and people not of the Elite Bloodlines who know the mysteries outside of the order in order to protect the Elite from exposure. Like the Medieval witchhunts, were all about rounding up anyone who would have had a clue what the friggin' lizards were up to. The people really abuseing the knowledge are never caught and instead everybody gets all driven into a frenzy to catch anybody ELSE who knows the (once not so mysterious) mysteries.

[seer74]

to be concise;

not saying knowing the mysteries makes you one of them. as has been said before in this forum - knowledge is neutral. its what you do with it...

[eternal_spirit]

1986 Denver, Colorado- Dana Jones is arrested for the murder of a fellow cult member on Feb. 2nd, the Neopagan holiday of Imbolc. Jones tells police she and her lesbian lover were members of the Argentinum Astrium...a "sex magic" cult founded by Aleister Crowley in 1907, after he got kicked out of the Golden Dawn. Police found an altar, ritual daggers, occult books (most written by Crowley) inside the basement of the house. An autopsy revealed that the victim had injested blood while still alive that was not his own, meaning he had participated in a blood drinking occult ritual. Apparently the ritual took a turn he wasn't expecting. Acquitted on grounds of insanity and confined to a state hospital, Jones escapes in June 1988, with aid from a sympathetic nurse on the staff, and fled to New Mexico. She shortly commited suicide afterwards.

http://usminc.org/crime3.html

[eternal_spirit]

1998 Hyvinkää, Finland Three members of a Satanic were charged with the brutal murder and dismemberment of a 23 year old man that occurred on 10-21-98 in a small town near Helsinki. Finish Authorities had recently become concerned over acts of vandalism, such as desecration of graveyards, suggesting young Finns were showing an increased interest in Satanism. Police said, however, that the Hyvinkaa case was the first murder linked to a Satanic cult. The sex and ages of the members were two men 23, 20, and a girl, of 17. Body parts of the victim were found on rubbish tips in the Hyvinkaa area, which lead to arrests.The trial revealed that the murder involved torture, mutliation, canibalism and necrophilia. After he was killed the threesome cut of the victims head and limbs and removed some his internal organs, including the victims heart. The three openly described themselves as Satanists. One of the three had a previous conviction for the attempted burning of a church. The court also found the 23-year-old man guilty of torturing and killing his dog as a sacrifice on Hallowe'en. Amazingly, the leader (the 23 y.o.) only recieved a 21 year sentence and the other two receieved even lighter sentences.

http://usminc.org/crime2.html

[damagedbrainn]

1998 Hyvinkää, Finland Three members of a Satanic were charged with the brutal murder and dismemberment of a 23 year old man that occurred on 10-21-98 in a small town near Helsinki. Finish Authorities had recently become concerned over acts of vandalism, such as desecration of graveyards, suggesting young Finns were showing an increased interest in Satanism. Police said, however, that the Hyvinkaa case was the first murder linked to a Satanic cult. The sex and ages of the members were two men 23, 20, and a girl, of 17. Body parts of the victim were found on rubbish tips in the Hyvinkaa area, which lead to arrests.The trial revealed that the murder involved torture, mutliation, canibalism and necrophilia. After he was killed the threesome cut of the victims head and limbs and removed some his internal organs, including the victims heart. The three openly described themselves as Satanists. One of the three had a previous conviction for the attempted burning of a church. The court also found the 23-year-old man guilty of torturing and killing his dog as a sacrifice on Hallowe'en. Amazingly, the leader (the 23 y.o.) only recieved a 21 year sentence and the other two receieved even lighter sentences.

http://usminc.org/crime2.html

http://www.newsmakingnews.com/karencuriojonesarchive.htm
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=90655

There were four participants: Two young adults, and two teenagers (17 year old girl, 16 year old boy).

The oldest of the group and the "leader" apparently, Jarno Elg, was sentenced to life in prison, not 21 years. The other adult was sentenced to little over 2 years, having only been convicted of desecrating a grave or something like that. The 17 year old girl was found to be mentally ill, and sentenced to a little over 8 years in prison (though only served about 5); and a few years after her release, she killed someone else and was convicted of manslaughter. The 16 year old boy was declared innocent due to his claim that he was coerced into participating in the act.

I think it most likely that it was the emphasis placed on "Satanism" that led to the lighter sentencing of the other perpetrators....the poor little youngsters were under the influence of "dark forces" and therefore could not be held fully responsible for their own actions...basically, the "devil" made them do it.

[marpat]

"The Society of the Dark Lily", is run by a women who suffers from multiple sclerosis. The farm in Scotland where she lives is the headquarters of the organization, and the scene of debauched, sadistic beating of naked young girls.

Temple of Set":
It is an offspring of LaVey's Church of Satan, founded in 1975 by US Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino, with 1,000 members. The name "Set" comes from the Egyptian god Set-Ham. It claims to be more moral than the Church of Satan!... but Aquino maintains an avid interest in Nazi culture, and Nazi insignia are occasionally worn by members of the Temple.

What insignia in particular? I know the swastika is a common religious symbol and nazi symbol. I am going to read up on that stuff to see if you are right.

[eternal_spirit]

Note the irony La Vey is Jewish. AskeNAZI Jews where are the real Nazis. Hitler was believed to be part Jew by some. Throughout history some Elite psychopaths have been known to commit genocide on their own people.

But the main aim of the War was to kill off many millions more Germanic none Jews particularily Christians same as what happened in Russia/Ukraine etc with the Gulag death camps, nearly all the leaders where Jewish. One word Talmud.

Another Jewish blood libel, the ritualistic murder of Christian children at passover/Purim by some Talmudic Rabbis, which may relate to the story of Herod in the Bible who ordered every male/baby child to be killed hoping they'd kill either Jesus or Moses can't remember who lol. Rabbis/moels? spelling, are said to drink the blood from their own people's circumcised babies, so enough said, bunch of vampires.

Another version is that the blood libel originated from the Orientals, there's many countries where similar blood rituals where/are performed.

[marpat]

Note the irony La Vey is Jewish. AskeNAZI Jews where are the real Nazis. Hitler was believed to be part Jew by some. Throughout history some Elite psychopaths have been known to commit genocide on their own people.

But the main aim of the War was to kill off many millions more Germanic none Jews particularily Christians same as what happened in Russia/Ukraine etc with the Gulag death camps, nearly all the leaders where Jewish. One word Talmud.

Another Jewish blood libel, the ritualistic murder of Christian children at passover/Purim by some Talmudic Rabbis, which may relate to the story of Herod in the Bible who ordered every male/baby child to be killed hoping they'd kill either Jesus or Moses can't remember who lol. Rabbis/moels? spelling, are said to drink the blood from their own people's circumcised babies, so enough said, bunch of vampires.

Another version is that the blood libel originated from the Orientals, there's many countries where similar blood rituals where/are performed.

This thread is about the black mass not what happened in WWII.

Lets get down to it, lets us first define what the black mass is, who it realtes to and who has actually done one.

Some background:

[edit] The Black Mass itself
Surprising as it may seem - in spite of the huge amount of French literature discussing the Black Mass (Messe Noire) at the end of the 1800s and early 1900s - no set of written instructions for performing one, from any purported group of Satanists, turned up in writing until the 1960s, and appeared not in France, but in the United States.

A growing interest in witchcraft and satanism in the 1960s inspired the creation of two recordings, both made in 1968, and both called "Satanic Mass":

The first was a record album of readings in Satanic philosophy by the Church of Satan, called "The Satanic Mass", which contained material later to appear in their Satanic Bible (published in 1969). In spite of the title and a few phrases in Latin, this album did not deal with the Black Mass.
The second was a 13 minute recording of a full-length "Satanic Mass" made by a US band called Coven. Coven's Black Mass, which was part of their stage show in 1968, was included on their 1969 record album "Witchcraft Destroys Minds and Reaps Souls", together with the full published text. The band stated that they spent a long time researching the material, and to their knowledge it was the first Black Mass published in any language.. The result was eclectic, drawing chants and material from numerous sources, including medieval French miracle plays, such as Le Miracle de Théophile, in which one of the players sells their soul to the Devil. These chants were gleaned from books on witchcraft, popular in the 60s, notably Grillot de Givry's Witchcraft, Magic and Alchemy (originally published in France in 1929). Additionally, the recording, while using a couple of the Latin phrases the Church of Satan was already making popular, also added a substantial amount of church Latin, in the form of Gregorian chants sung by the band, to create the genuine effect of the Catholic Latin Mass being inverted and sung to Satan.
Soon after Coven created their Black Mass, the Church of Satan began creating their own Black Masses, two of which are available to the public. The first, created for the Church of Satan by Wayne West in 1970 and entitled "Missa Solemnis", was published in Michael Aquino's book The Church of Satan , and the second, entitled "Messe Noir", in Anton LaVey's 1972 book The Satanic Rituals.

All three of these early Black Masses (the one by Coven and the two by the Church of Satan) contain the Latin phrase "In nomine Domini Dei nostri Satanae Luciferi Excelsi", as well as the phrases "Rege Satanas" and "Ave Satanas" (which, incidentally, are also the only three Latin phrases which appeared in the Church of Satan's 1968 recording, "The Satanic Mass"). Additionally, all three modify other Latin parts of the Roman Catholic Missal to make them into Satanic versions. The Church of Satan's two Black Masses also use the French text of the Black Mass in Huysmans' "Là-Bas" to a great extent. (West only uses the English translation, LaVey publishes also the original French). Thus, the Black Mass found in "The Satanic Rituals" is a combination of English, French, and Latin.

Finally, a writer using the pseudonym "Aubrey Melech" published, in 1986, a Black Mass entirely in Latin, entitled "Missa Niger". (This Black Mass is available on the Internet). Aubrey Melech's Black Mass contains almost exactly the same original Latin phrases as the Black Mass published by LaVey in "The Satanic Rituals". The difference is that the amount of Latin has now more than doubled, so that the entire Black Mass is in Latin.

[damagedbrainn]

Note the irony La Vey is Jewish. AskeNAZI Jews where are the real Nazis. Hitler was believed to be part Jew by some. Throughout history some Elite psychopaths have been known to commit genocide on their own people.

But the main aim of the War was to kill off many millions more Germanic none Jews particularily Christians same as what happened in Russia/Ukraine etc with the Gulag death camps, nearly all the leaders where Jewish. One word Talmud.

Another Jewish blood libel, the ritualistic murder of Christian children at passover/Purim by some Talmudic Rabbis, which may relate to the story of Herod in the Bible who ordered every male/baby child to be killed hoping they'd kill either Jesus or Moses can't remember who lol. Rabbis/moels? spelling, are said to drink the blood from their own people's circumcised babies, so enough said, bunch of vampires.

Another version is that the blood libel originated from the Orientals, there's many countries where similar blood rituals where/are performed.

You're your own worst enemy, man...I mean really.

[marpat]

Another angle to consider is that the black mass is just plain christian propoganda used to condemn those who will not fall into line, or enemies they want rid of. It is essentially a christian ritual that has been debased, and it's so retro.

[eternal_spirit]

Oh dear back to the let's blame the christians again. BTW DB which bit of info do you wish to dispute, or would it just be a massive de ja vu? and a waste of time.

[marpat]

Oh dear back to the let's blame the christians again. BTW DB which bit of info do you wish to dispute, or would it just be a massive de ja vu? and a waste of time.

But it is a christian ritual, using christian symbology slightly altered.

I find it odd that you are happy to blame Jews, freemasons and occultists for all sorts of evil things but when I suggest that the black mass is a piece of christian propoganda you get defensive. I take it that you are a christian? are we not allowed to question the morality, perversity and evil dealings of the church?

[empyblessing]

Who gave more power to Christianity, the missionaries or Nero?

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11268

[marpat]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11268

You are spamming the thread with stuff that is not even on topic.

What is wrong with you? all of your links and posts are always about abuse and murder and violence. You seem to have a perverse interest in everything that is base and wrong and you never discuss anything positive.

It would be one thing if it was about the thread, but again we find you Jew bashing in a thread that is not about Jews.

[eternal_spirit]

You are spamming the thread with stuff that is not even on topic.

What is wrong with you? all of your links and posts are always about abuse and murder and violence. You seem to have a perverse interest in everything that is base and wrong and you never discuss anything positive.

It would be one thing if it was about the thread, but again we find you Jew bashing in a thread that is not about Jews.
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What is wrong with you? you can't discuss topics without having a go at me.
This is the Satanism forum. You think it's meant to be a picnic, a walk in the dark not the park. And people need enlightening/warning about how sick Satanism can be. If no one else want's to do it, then it's down to me. That good enough?

Go read the link it gets onto Satanism further down the page, they do rituals which are about cursing christ and drinking blood of Christians (so it is similar/connected to black mass) then go read the Talmud thread, on topic, unlike your name calling.

[lizzy]

You are spamming the thread with stuff that is not even on topic.

What is wrong with you? all of your links and posts are always about abuse and murder and violence. You seem to have a perverse interest in everything that is base and wrong and you never discuss anything positive.

It would be one thing if it was about the thread, but again we find you Jew bashing in a thread that is not about Jews.

Is'nt this at the core of everything you stand for marpet? ES is showing you what it is you promote.
This is and always has been you tactic, if you can't answer stuff you trun it on the poster and BINGO ,I'm right again.........
How you operate is pathetic.

[lizzy]

You are spamming the thread with stuff that is not even on topic.

What is wrong with you? all of your links and posts are always about abuse and murder and violence. You seem to have a perverse interest in everything that is base and wrong and you never discuss anything positive.

It would be one thing if it was about the thread, but again we find you Jew bashing in a thread that is not about Jews.

I don't see ES defending the Black Mass? Another twist and evassion.

[damagedbrainn]

Oh dear back to the let's blame the christians again. BTW DB which bit of info do you wish to dispute, or would it just be a massive de ja vu? and a waste of time.

It would just be massive dejavu because you've been posting and going on about pretty much the exact same shit for almost a year now. And, in case you haven't noticed, your audience has gotten progressively smaller and smaller, and supporters fewer and fewer. That is what I was referring to with my last comment. You've completely discredited and pigeonholed yourself with this garbage.

[marpat]

I don't see ES defending the Black Mass? Another twist and evassion.

Well I don't know what you read but I never said he did defend the black mass.

I guess you have come to look for trouble by your posts.

[montag]

Hey guy's can we please stop with the personal attacks and stick to the topic, if you can't do this then I'll rant the thread..

montag