Did you know we might be entering an ice age?

[jesuitsdidit]

http://www.newsmax.com/brennan/global_warming_ice_age/2009/02/03/178086.html

Slippery Slope: Ice Age Cometh in Five Years

Tuesday, February 3, 2009

By: Philip V. Brennan




It's time for some straight talk. No more beating around the bush. I no longer want to evade an issue around whose edges I've been skirting for 12 years. So I'll come right and say it loud and clear: In all probability, we've come to the end of the line.

Unless I'm grievously mistaken, we are about to go extinct. Soon.

In 1997 I warned that we are approaching the onset of a new ice age. I wrote that the record shows that ice ages are preceded by a period of about 20 years, and things get very unpleasant as the end of that period approaches.

Contrary to poor Al Gore's alarmist prediction that the planet is approaching the boiling point, it's getting colder — a lot colder. And it's going to get even colder. Spring and fall will disappear, summers will be short and winters longer and increasingly more frigid.

That, however, is only part of the story. Along with the cooling of the planet will come a series of increasingly violent natural disasters, such as earthquakes and volcanic eruptions of a size and fury unmatched in human history. Or a global repeat of the Tungusta event in 1908, which probably was a natural nuclear explosion in Siberia that had the force of 1,000 Hiroshima atom bombs.

And then we will go the way of the dinosaurs.

That's the way nature always has set the stage for 90,000 years of glaciation. And nobody survives. This planet has seen a series of extinctions. As Robert W. Felix has written in his extraordinary new book, "Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps" (Sugarhouse Publishing) the extinctions are followed by ice ages and then 90,000 years later by the sudden appearance of entirely new species that appear whole and complete and survive until the next extinction heralds a new ice age.

That's the way we evolved, not by slow Darwinian steps, but by a series of total transformations, according to Felix.


He quotes paleontologist Robert Bakker as observing, "The idea of slow, gradual, imperceptual evolution is wrong. The fossil facts do not read that away." Mass extinctions always come suddenly, without warning, he adds, noting that the population is then immediately replaced with entirely different species with no forerunners.


It would seem that God created us step by step, with each extinction, followed by the appearance of a new and vastly improved humanoid species that lasted until a new extinction before the onset of an ice age.


Until it became clear that there were big bucks to be made in climbing aboard the global warming gravy train, most scientific organizations such as the National Academy of Sciences were warning that we were on the verge of a new ice age.

In 1975, for example, the academy published "Understanding Climate Change." Page 181proclaimed: "The present interglacial interval — which has now lasted for about 10,000 years — represents a climatic regime that is relatively rare during the past million years, most of which has been occupied by colder, glacial regimes. Only during about 8 percent of the past 700,000 years has the earth experienced climates as warm or warmer than the present.

"The penultimate interglacial age began about 125,000 years ago, and lasted for approximately 10,000 years. Similar interglacial ages — each lasting 10,000 plus or minus 2000 years and each followed by a glacial maximum — have occurred on the average every 100,000 years during at least the past half-million years.


“During this period, fluctuations of the northern hemisphere ice sheets caused sea level variations of the order of 100 meters."


On page 189, the question is asked: "When will the present interglacial [period] end?

"Few paleoclimatoligists would dispute that the prominent warm periods (or interglacials) that have followed each of the terminations of the major glaciations have had durations of 10,000 plus or minus 2000 years. In each case, a period of considerably colder climate has followed immediately after the interglacial interval.


“Since about 10,000 years have passed since the onset of the present period of prominent warmth, the question naturally arises as to whether we are indeed on the brink of a period of colder climate."


"The question remains unsolved. If the end of the interglacial is episodic in character, we are moving toward a rather sudden climatic change of unknown timing . . . If on the other hand, these changes are more sinusoidal in character, then the climate should decline gradually over a period of a thousand years."


A study prepared for the 95th Congress in 1978 agreed with the National Academy of Sciences position as explained in the above-quoted study. The document “Weather Modification: Programs, Problems, Policy and Potential” warned: "In geological prospective, the case for cooling is strong . . . If this interglacial age lasts no longer than a dozen earlier ones in the past million years, as recorded in deep sea sediments, we may reasonably suppose the world is about due to slide into the next ice age."

Not a single thing has emerged that challenged those assertions. They remain as valid now as they were in 1975. We are at the end of an age and all hell is about to break loose.

I hope I'm mistaken, but I would suggest that we have about five years left.

Don't worry, however, we'll be back in 90,000 years, and better than ever.

Phil Brennan is a veteran journalist and World War II Marine who writes for Newsmax.com. He is editor and publisher of Wednesday on the Web (http://www.pvbr.com) and was Washington columnist (Cato) for National Review magazine in the 1960s. He is a trustee of the Lincoln Heritage Institute and a member of the Association for Intelligence Officers. He can be reached at pvb@pvbr.com.






© 2009 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

[jesuitsdidit]

i also have 2 articles here

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52051&page=8

[jesuitsdidit]

this is not something i've really checked out yet, but will investigate..

[the nine]

http://www.newsmax.com/brennan/global_warming_ice_age/2009/02/03/178086.html

Slippery Slope: Ice Age Cometh in Five Years

Tuesday, February 3, 2009

By: Philip V. Brennan




In 1997 I warned that we are approaching the onset of a new ice age. I wrote that the record shows that ice ages are preceded by a period of about 20 years, and things get very unpleasant as the end of that period approaches.



© 2009 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

lol

its the coldest winter for 20 years..and now this..
its going to be HOT mega HOT..no.. wait..its going to be COLD..REALLY FUCKING COLD..


no wait...

maybe this was the testing of the resolve, for barack obama, they have been harping on about;)

[cruise4]

Decent article. I fancy my chances in an Ice Age. It's the Killshot from the SUN that would worry me and I haven't ruled that out either. Extinct? I have a feeling there's more too it. A change... yes. End... I don't think so. In for a rough time? Definitely!

[knightbk]

I though Nibiru was going to kill us all?
Oh wait, the return of Christ.
Oh wait, polar shift.
Oh wait, Nuclear war.
Oh wait, plague.
Oh wait, global warming.
Oh wait...


Why do you guys worry about this crap?

I put as much stock into this "article" as I do into everything else that so called "scientists" put out daily. 99% of it is bullshit.

[cruise4]

Why do you worry about us posting it? Mind your own business if you aren't interested.

[the nine]

Why do you worry about us posting it? Mind your own business if you aren't interested.

do you not think this is more fear mongering though?
not having a go at the poster..
its these compilers of future predictions based on 'facts' from the past..

TPTB seem to thrive on a populous which is fearing..more propaganda me thinks.
:)

[cruise4]

"do you not think this is more fear mongering though?"

No. You might be afraid of your own shadow but I'm not. What will be, will be and trying to guess/think/talk about the possibilities, however unlikely is to me speculating on the potentials.

I'd actually go further and say those that mention fearmongering are the ones promoting fear.

[supertzar]

do you not think this is more fear mongering though?
not having a go at the poster..
its these compilers of future predictions based on 'facts' from the past..

TPTB seem to thrive on a populous which is fearing..more propaganda me thinks.
:)

Who knows if it is fear mongering or not? What if it is a truly scientific prediction based on the best available data?

[the nine]

Who knows if it is fear mongering or not? What if it is a truly scientific prediction based on the best available data?

maybe a thick coat and warm hat and golves are in order..?

[the nine]

maybe a thick coat and warm hat and golves are in order..?

also where will all the ice come from? will the sea levels fall substancially, creating land swell?

[supertzar]

maybe a thick coat and warm hat and golves are in order..?

Yes, I always wear my golves when an ice age hits.

[jesuitsdidit]

my theory is they know ice age coming so chemtrails r 2 destroy atmosphere so sun hotter so create illusion of GW to buy time to build underground cities for them (doubt we r included) and War on Terror etc etc all a diversion..

[jesuitsdidit]

and if we r, wdnt it b better to involve everyone in the decisions
we might arrive at a more sensible solution??

[halloween jack]

Altogether now...

We've got five years, stuck on my eyes
Five years, what a surprise
We've got five years, my brain hurts a lot
Five years, thats all we've got...

[evea]

Who knows if it is fear mongering or not? What if it is a truly scientific prediction based on the best available data?

then were fucked

nowt we can do about it
so why spoil the rest of out earthly existence worrying about it:)

[grannymoose]

I though Nibiru was going to kill us all?
Oh wait, the return of Christ.
Oh wait, polar shift.
Oh wait, Nuclear war.
Oh wait, plague.
Oh wait, global warming.
Oh wait...


Why do you guys worry about this crap?

I put as much stock into this "article" as I do into everything else that so called "scientists" put out daily. 99% of it is bullshit.

+1

[skunksmash]

it is a reality....:(

& for all we know the ice age may have been the catastrophic change or end the Mayans refer to on Dec 21st, 2012...??

one thing is for sure...everything in the universe works in cycles, & we could well be on the Virge of a new one....



:)SK

[themime]

Ragnarok Now?

"I love the smell of snow flakes in the morning...."

[jesuitsdidit]

and if we r, wdnt it b better to involve everyone in the decisions
we might arrive at a more sensible solution??

well thats all he'll need bcoz he's 1 of them..

[jesuitsdidit]

Robert Felix - Global Warming Global Cooling? 1 of 5

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-jEE1_0i_rY

enterhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-jEE1_0i_rY

it says 1/5 actually its 1/3 all 10 mins

[jesuitsdidit]

http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/106922-2/
11.01.2009

Earth on the Brink of an Ice Age

The earth is now on the brink of entering another Ice Age, according to a large and compelling body of evidence from within the field of climate science. Many sources of data which provide our knowledge base of long-term climate change indicate that the warm, twelve thousand year-long Holocene period will rather soon be coming to an end, and then the earth will return to Ice Age conditions for the next 100,000 years.

Ice cores, ocean sediment cores, the geologic record, and studies of ancient plant and animal populations all demonstrate a regular cyclic pattern of Ice Age glacial maximums which each last about 100,000 years, separated by intervening warm interglacials, each lasting about 12,000 years.

Most of the long-term climate data collected from various sources also shows a strong correlation with the three astronomical cycles which are together known as the Milankovich cycles. The three Milankovich cycles include the tilt of the earth, which varies over a 41,000 year period; the shape of the earth’s orbit, which changes over a period of 100,000 years; and the Precession of the Equinoxes, also known as the earth’s ‘wobble’, which gradually rotates the direction of the earth’s axis over a period of 26,000 years. According to the Milankovich theory of Ice Age causation, these three astronomical cycles, each of which effects the amount of solar radiation which reaches the earth, act together to produce the cycle of cold Ice Age maximums and warm interglacials.

Elements of the astronomical theory of Ice Age causation were first presented by the French mathematician Joseph Adhemar in 1842, it was developed further by the English prodigy Joseph Croll in 1875, and the theory was established in its present form by the Serbian mathematician Milutin Milankovich in the 1920s and 30s. In 1976 the prestigious journal “Science” published a landmark paper by John Imbrie, James Hays, and Nicholas Shackleton entitled “Variations in the Earth's orbit: Pacemaker of the Ice Ages,” which described the correlation which the trio of scientist/authors had found between the climate data obtained from ocean sediment cores and the patterns of the astronomical Milankovich cycles. Since the late 1970s, the Milankovich theory has remained the predominant theory to account for Ice Age causation among climate scientists, and hence the Milankovich theory is always described in textbooks of climatology and in encyclopaedia articles about the Ice Ages.

In their 1976 paper Imbrie, Hays, and Shackleton wrote that their own climate forecasts, which were based on sea-sediment cores and the Milankovich cycles, "… must be qualified in two ways. First, they apply only to the natural component of future climatic trends - and not to anthropogenic effects such as those due to the burning of fossil fuels. Second, they describe only the long-term trends, because they are linked to orbital variations with periods of 20,000 years and longer. Climatic oscillations at higher frequencies are not predicted... the results indicate that the long-term trend over the next 20,000 years is towards extensive Northern Hemisphere glaciation and cooler climate."

During the 1970s the famous American astronomer Carl Sagan and other scientists began promoting the theory that ‘greenhouse gasses’ such as carbon dioxide, or CO2, produced by human industries could lead to catastrophic global warming. Since the 1970s the theory of ‘anthropogenic global warming’ (AGW) has gradually become accepted as fact by most of the academic establishment, and their acceptance of AGW has inspired a global movement to encourage governments to make pivotal changes to prevent the worsening of AGW.

The central piece of evidence that is cited in support of the AGW theory is the famous ‘hockey stick’ graph which was presented by Al Gore in his 2006 film “An Inconvenient Truth.” The ‘hockey stick’ graph shows an acute upward spike in global temperatures which began during the 1970s and continued through the winter of 2006/07. However, this warming trend was interrupted when the winter of 2007/8 delivered the deepest snow cover to the Northern Hemisphere since 1966 and the coldest temperatures since 2001. It now appears that the current Northern Hemisphere winter of 2008/09 will probably equal or surpass the winter of 2007/08 for both snow depth and cold temperatures.

The main flaw in the AGW theory is that its proponents focus on evidence from only the past one thousand years at most, while ignoring the evidence from the past million years -- evidence which is essential for a true understanding of climatology. The data from paleoclimatology provides us with an alternative and more credible explanation for the recent global temperature spike, based on the natural cycle of Ice Age maximums and interglacials.

In 1999 the British journal “Nature” published the results of data derived from glacial ice cores collected at the Russia’s Vostok station in Antarctica during the 1990s. The Vostok ice core data includes a record of global atmospheric temperatures, atmospheric CO2 and other greenhouse gases, and airborne particulates starting from 420,000 years ago and continuing through history up to our present time.

The graph of the Vostok ice core data shows that the Ice Age maximums and the warm interglacials occur within a regular cyclic pattern, the graph-line of which is similar to the rhythm of a heartbeat on an electrocardiogram tracing. The Vostok data graph also shows that changes in global CO2 levels lag behind global temperature changes by about eight hundred years. What that indicates is that global temperatures precede or cause global CO2 changes, and not the reverse. In other words, increasing atmospheric CO2 is not causing global temperature to rise; instead the natural cyclic increase in global temperature is causing global CO2 to rise.

The reason that global CO2 levels rise and fall in response to the global temperature is because cold water is capable of retaining more CO2 than warm water. That is why carbonated beverages loose their carbonation, or CO2, when stored in a warm environment. We store our carbonated soft drinks, wine, and beer in a cool place to prevent them from loosing their ‘fizz’, which is a feature of their carbonation, or CO2 content. The earth is currently warming as a result of the natural Ice Age cycle, and as the oceans get warmer, they release increasing amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere.

Because the release of CO2 by the warming oceans lags behind the changes in the earth’s temperature, we should expect to see global CO2 levels continue to rise for another eight hundred years after the end of the earth’s current Interglacial warm period. We should already be eight hundred years into the coming Ice Age before global CO2 levels begin to drop in response to the increased chilling of the world’s oceans.

The Vostok ice core data graph reveals that global CO2 levels regularly rose and fell in a direct response to the natural cycle of Ice Age minimums and maximums during the past four hundred and twenty thousand years. Within that natural cycle, about every 110,000 years global temperatures, followed by global CO2 levels, have peaked at approximately the same levels which they are at today.

Today we are again at the peak, and near to the end, of a warm interglacial, and the earth is now due to enter the next Ice Age. If we are lucky, we may have a few years to prepare for it. The Ice Age will return, as it always has, in its regular and natural cycle, with or without any influence from the effects of AGW.

The AGW theory is based on data that is drawn from a ridiculously narrow span of time and it demonstrates a wanton disregard for the ‘big picture’ of long-term climate change. The data from paleoclimatology, including ice cores, sea sediments, geology, paleobotany and zoology, indicate that we are on the verge of entering another Ice Age, and the data also shows that severe and lasting climate change can occur within only a few years. While concern over the dubious threat of Anthropogenic Global Warming continues to distract the attention of people throughout the world, the very real threat of the approaching and inevitable Ice Age, which will render large parts of the Northern Hemisphere uninhabitable, is being foolishly ignored.

Gregory F. Fegel

nve

[jesuitsdidit]

very real threat of the approaching and inevitable Ice Age, which will render large parts of the Northern Hemisphere uninhabitable,

hence depop agenda.?

[beldazar]

Altogether now...

We've got five years, stuck on my eyes
Five years, what a surprise
We've got five years, my brain hurts a lot
Five years, thats all we've got...


Yeeey! Its the end of the world as we know it, its the end of the world as we know it, its the end of the world as we know it.....
And I feel FIIINNNEEEE! :D

[jesuitsdidit]

Yeeey! Its the end of the world as we know it, its the end of the world as we know it, its the end of the world as we know it.....
And I feel FIIINNNEEEE! :D

know wot u mean..

[pinkgrapefruit]

After a couple if cold days we heading toward an Ice-age, a week of hot summer days it's Global Warming. Give us a break!

The Ice-Ages of the past are THEORIES that are yet to be proven to have actually happened in the first place. To come up with time windows for these theoretical events is Al Gore territory.

So how can 'scientists' tell us that we're heading for an Ice-Age when there is no proof of one ever happening in the past.

Don't mention Glacial Evidence in Northern Europe and Northern America because there is no proof that they were concurrent.

[jesuitsdidit]

it is a reality....:(

& for all we know the ice age may have been the catastrophic change or end the Mayans refer to on Dec 21st, 2012...??

interesting thought..

[jesuitsdidit]

Ragnarok Now?

"I love the smell of snow flakes in the morning...."

r u friends with 'the nine'?

[them]

[CENTER]I thought Nibiru was going to kill us all?
Oh wait, the return of Christ.
Oh wait, polar shift.
Oh wait, Nuclear war.
Oh wait, plague.
Oh wait, global warming.
Oh wait...


Why do you guys worry about this crap?

I put as much stock into this "article" as I do into everything else that so called "scientists" put out daily. 99% of it is bullshit.

An interesting post, (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/flattered+to+deceive) why do you think about it?

Do you consider all six of your examples to be impossible? With the exception of the return of Christ and Nibiru, of course, as in both cases we have no irrefutable evidence of either of them?

http://www.camus-society.com/albert-camus/images/camus_01.jpg (http://www.camus-society.com/the-plague-albert-camus.htm)

[them]

Oh.. forget to say.. which is the 1% of science you don't think is bullshit, knightbk?

[pali_gap]

because you got one cold winter in UK you think ice age is coming:rolleyes:

WHAT ABOUT EAST EUROPE, WHAT ABOUT AUSTRALIA??

[jesuitsdidit]

Don't mention Glacial Evidence in Northern Europe and Northern America because there is no proof that they were concurrent.

so?

[father ted]

WHOA THERE,

previous ice ages weren't that bad at the equator.I have also heard that this will be a mini ice age (from scientists as well) and it won't happen over night, it will give us time to adjust.

[cruise4]

I agree Pink_Grapefruit. It is all very suspect. Mind you, I also feel fine, whatever happens. Haven't had so much fun in years. Bizarre or what :D

[the nine]

r u friends with 'the nine'?

lol

[takhisis]

Sorry i dont agree with you its just winter as always , polar caps have been melting =/ polar caps dont melt during a ice age

[brainstormer]

One minute it's 'global warming', next it's an 'ice age'... It seems as soon as there's a slight change in temperature, everyone goes mad thinking there's a climate crisis... Weather fluctuates, it's the nature of the beast, always has, always will, nothing to worry about!

[deafbred]

Mat 24:20 "Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath.

Mar 13:18 "Pray that it may not happen in winter.

we should all head to warmer climates?


anyways....

I was in the woods today...with the dogs.. it recently snowed so the waking was toughish.. I went to far.. and their toes began to freeze.. they stopped walking.. I had to pick them up.. and then I just pulled them behind me with the collar.. like dead weights.. we almost died. not me exactly but I wasn't leaving the woods without the dogs.

luckily they are in my bed now sound asleep and warm again

coulda been a sad day


it was getting night

.. scary stuff. they just stopped walking

[deafbred]

The Real Truth That NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Your Government & The Naval Observatory
Knows And Is Holding Back And Not Telling You Or The Mainstream Media About

http://www.livefireproof.com/

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8518937288771239777&hl=en


in the video he talks of planet NIBIRU and at one point discuses the POLAR CAPS reFREEZING.. in AN INSTANT.. like happened in SIBERIA or someplace.. some animal found INSTANTLY frozen with food still in its mouth unchewed.. and in its belly undigested ...something...


hailstones of comet ice falling on earth

[lizzy]

Mat 24:20 "Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath.

Mar 13:18 "Pray that it may not happen in winter.

we should all head to warmer climates?


anyways....

I was in the woods today...with the dogs.. it recently snowed so the waking was toughish.. I went to far.. and their toes began to freeze.. they stopped walking.. I had to pick them up.. and then I just pulled them behind me with the collar.. like dead weights.. we almost died. not me exactly but I wasn't leaving the woods without the dogs.

edit.....animal found INSTANTLY frozen with food still in its mouth unchewed.. and in its belly undigested ...something...

........yup , I read that recently too.

edit... 'animal found INSTANTLY frozen with food still in its mouth unchewed.. and in its belly undigested ...something...'

.....yup, I read that somewhere recently too.


luckily they are in my bed now sound asleep and warm again

coulda been a sad day


it was getting night

.. scary stuff. they just stopped walking

geez deafbred.....that was scary.....how far did u walk and what breed are your doggies...not to make light...but are you sure they did'nt go on strike to get your cosy bed?.....the short haired breeds don't do well in the cold;)

[the nine]

geez deafbred.....that was scary.....how far did u walk and what breed are your doggies...not to make light...but are you sure they did'nt go on strike to get your cosy bed?.....the short haired breeds don't do well in the cold;)


agreed, i have been shaving my head for nearly a decade and i can verify this! :D

[lizzy]

[/B]

agreed, i have been shaving my head for nearly a decade and i can verify this! :D


Brrrr.......well get a hat on , you don't want brain freeeze the nine :D....as for the coming mini ice age, I am undecided,..but I did read recently too about
.......' some animal found INSTANTLY frozen with food still in its mouth unchewed.. and in its belly undigested ...something...'

I thought a meteor ect, ....or it just might have come to some other untimely end......but I do think the elite will survive one, perhaps they have done so throught previous ice-age(s)...... but this time in far more luxury.

[the nine]

Brrrr.......well get a hat on , you don't want brain freeeze the nine :D....as for the coming mini ice age, I am undecided,..but I did read recently too about
.......' some animal found INSTANTLY frozen with food still in its mouth unchewed.. and in its belly undigested ...something...'

I thought a meteor ect, ....or it just might have come to some other untimely end......but I do think the elite will survive one, perhaps they have done so throught previous ice-age(s)...... but this time in far more luxury.

thanks lizzy, i like it here in the caring place :)

as regards, the animal and food in mouth undigested..etc etc etc..
maybe..maybe not! maybe the poor thing fell through ice..!

i also think there will be survivers, but fate has a way and their is always the unexpected.. there are hidden forces at work in this world, the scarlet thread of murder and coincidence runs through history, bringing choas out of the planned order..
..we just need love, faith and trust in mankind to get us through this one!

sinnister forces are sinister forces, they side with no one :D

[deafbred]

geez deafbred.....that was scary.....how far did u walk and what breed are your doggies...not to make light...but are you sure they did'nt go on strike to get your cosy bed?.....the short haired breeds don't do well in the cold;)

nah, they never would strike on me, ...im to much a good friend to them, despite what happened earlier today. awful loyal dogs. endless love. ;)

i said im sorry to them - it was pretty 'hairy' in the woods... the situation.. i didn't realize that they would be effected like they did. we walked along the tracks.. to a usual spot in a pine forest we head to in the summer. at first they were like up to their neck almost in snow.. sometimes had to hop along to get through. but some areas were less deep. .. after going down the tracks a little ways... like a quarter mile.. we crossed the rail road tracks.. and headed up a hill.. at that point we were in the trees area. we found some deer tracks and bunny gallup's in the snow. the dear or coyote trails were better to walk along due to the snow being compacted. .. so we followed the trails for a little ways.. to new places we hadn't been before. i'd say it was another.. half mile in the woods after we crossed the railroad tracks. kinda deep in the woods, through trees that you had to push out of the way though the deer trails were mostly open and nice to walk along there were also a couple open field spots. found another pine tree forest setting that was legit.. sun rays hit the tops of the trees faintly as it was setting. at that point we had some food.. dogs a couple biscuits and i fed them to some of the peanut butter cookies i had with me my sister made the other day .. well.. when we got deep enough into the woods.. and the sun had set and the half moon was in the sky, the light was ambient. we had crossed a brook babbling and i think that's what finally did it for them. we had turned around, went through the small puddle brook once more.. after a few yards.. Oscar..the white ball of fluff that reminds me of Folcar from that movie the never ending story..

Neverending Story - YouTube

started licking his paws.. and lying down in the snow on the deer trail.. that's when I knew we were in trouble from there on out and we had to get back to my truck as soon as possible. so i said 'come on oscar lets go'...but he didn't listen. i had to pick him up and start running my self with the dog in my arms. ...and after a little ways going.. i looked back and Bell... the brown ginger dog, hadn't stayed pace with us. so I put Oscar down and ran back to find Bell (Belly Welly Belly Bell) .. she was just standing there.. I knew she was freezing up to. ... :s .... anyways I got her to trod along a little bit more. then at one point she didn't catch up again. i got oscar to walk a little ways but you could see he was fumbling walking. so i went back again to see what was up with bell and i found out the leash got wrapped around her leg and she couldn't walk. so i unbound that darn thing which was frozen and tried to make her move but she didn't go far.

after a little bit we came to the open part of the field.. and there was a tree fallen so in order to take a short cut and not go the long way around it i decided to pick bell up and bring her to the other side. i looked back and oscar couldn't make it.. he started to whine and whimper and fall into the snow as there was actually a little wetness from water collection under near the tree that had fallen. so i went back got him brought him to bell and then i rested for a little to catch my breath. my heart was poundin, but i knew we couldn't sit long, had to keep moving and keep the heart pumping in them no matter how tired i got. i noticed also oscar had a lot of balls of snow attached to his fur and he was like one big giant snow ball of ice. 0_O

so... at that point... i had to start... it was nessicery to pull them along by their leashes, just to get them to move. i couldn't carry both of them any further. i didn't care if i had to choke them along the way. they became dead weights and it was hard to get them to move. but once we got to more on the deer trails compacted snow and got through some of the fluff stuff.. it became a little easier again.

so we made it to the track of the rail road finally but we had a ways to walk yet. ... this time we walked ON the tracks because it was less deep. so they walked along by themselves and i walked ahead, trying to encourage them with my voice and whatever i said. .. i kept looking back.. and whenever i wasn't encouraging them good enough...because of my own doubting of whether we would make it or not, they began to fall back and not keep up with me. but when i effectively energized them through the spirit to keep on waking... they stayed more at the back of my feet.


.. eventually.. we got back to the small post office where my truck was parked. we made it.

thankfully so

here are some pictures of old recent times when they spent some time in my small trailer in the back yard. you will notice oscar has a black streak on his head. it was at that time.. earlier in the day.. he chased after a person riding on a bicycle passed the house. when he came back.. he had that grease or tire mark on his head (heh) lol - that will teach him to chase after bikers.

they aren't so much 'my dogs' they'd be trained better and more obedient and better tempered. but i been working on them. they're good. others here just don't seem to respect them as they should. mostly 'spoil' them. feed em to much. or whatever. but they love them just as much as me. though my love is a little more.. love - after all, i am the only one that takes em for walks.. but this experience of the winter walk taught me a lesson and made me realize things i didn't before. o well live and learn. deff don't want that hour of trial that is coming on the whole world to happen in a winter season where your living. may be good enough excuse to relocate to warmer climate.


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http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=5831&dateline=1213144200
...short haired breeds don't do well in the cold;)


agreed, i have been shaving my head for nearly a decade and i can verify this! :D

ROFL'S

[jud1th]

About 5 years ago, just by chance, we met the cartographer who originally photographed part of the Antartic ice shelf breaking away. Global warming made him angry, its all a 'myth' he said. The earth goes thro' changes and it always will...

[deafbred]

Yeh...Id say they don't want us storing up peanuts or the like

or making underground refuge to survive

they know whats coming but are keeping it from the public

to make sure most of us die as a result of not preparing

eugenics mentality

yes, distracting us with global warming lies and war on terror - the cup they are mixing for us

looks like the dinosaurs are going UNDERGROUND.. leaving us to starve and die in the weather extremes ....then will Dawn Their New Age of more RULE/ruling over the Survivor peasants
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIjkyZNPmEE-
Ice Age 3 Movie Trailer:Dawn of the Dinosaurs 4th July 09 - YouTube

When Nibiru comes around... the Sun will be darkened for a period of time

the weather as a result will probably get very cold

we will be fighting for food and survival
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af3pd-8YR_g-
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Mat 24:12 "And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.

[christuffer]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/4413474/BBC-abandons-impartiality-on-warming.html



BBC abandons 'impartiality' on warming
Again and again the BBC has been eager to promote every new scare raised by the advocates of man-made global warming, says Christopher Booker.


By Christopher Booker
Last Updated: 12:50PM GMT 01 Feb 2009

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Polar bear model floating in the Thames
The iconic beast of global warming, as seen in the Thames Photo: PA

Londoners might have been startled last Monday to see a giant mock-up of a polar bear on an iceberg, floating on the Thames outside the Palace of Westminster. They might not have been so surprised to learn, first, that this was a global warming propaganda stunt and, second, that the television company behind it is part-owned by the BBC.

It was ironic that, last week, while the BBC was refusing to show an appeal for aid to the victims of Israeli bombing in Gaza, on the grounds that this might breach its charter obligation to be impartial, a rather less publicised row was raging over Newsnight's doctoring of film of President Obama's inaugural speech, which was used to support yet another of its items promoting the warming scare. Clips from the speech were spliced together to convey a considerably stronger impression of what Obama had said on global warming than his very careful wording justified. While that may have been unprofessional enough, the rest of the item, by Newsnight's science editor, Susan Watts, was even more bizarre. It was no more than a paean of gratitude that we now at last have a president prepared to listen to the "science" on climate change, after the dark age of religious obscurantism personified by President Bush.

At last, after years when they could not speak openly on this subject, chirped Ms Watts, "scientists calculate that President Obama has just four years to save the world". She failed to explain (although she was later forced to clarify this on her blog) that the only scientist to say anything so silly was Dr James Hansen of Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, whose utterances on climate change have lately become so wild and extreme that they have made him a laughing stock. (He was last week publicly disowned by his former supervisor Dr John Theon, who said that Hansen's unscientific claims had been an embarrassment to Nasa ever since he joined Al Gore in whipping up panic over global warming back in 1988.)

In all this, however, Newsnight only reflected the shameless way in which the BBC makes not the slightest attempt to provide impartial coverage of this issue. As its editorial guidelines make clear, "mainstream science" is now so overwhelmingly agreed on global warming that the BBC sees no reason to give balancing coverage to the views of a minority of "sceptics"; and examples are now legion of how it loses no opportunity to propagandise for the cause.

One of the madder instances was the 15 hours of airtime it gave in 2007 to the dreary Live Earth pop concert at Wembley, which was no more than a commercial for the views of Al Gore. Another was last year's lavish Climate Wars series, designed by the BBC's science team as an answer to Channel Four's The Great Global Warming Swindle. Nothing was more laughable than the sequence showing a huge poster of the infamous "hockey stick" temperature graph being driven round London on the back of a lorry, without any mention of the expert studies which have made the "hockey stick" one of the most comprehensively discredited artefacts in the history of science.

Again and again the BBC has been eager to promote every new scare raised by the advocates of man-made global warming. As late as August 28 this year it was still predicting that Arctic ice might soon disappear, just as this winter' s refreezing was about to take ice-cover back to a point it was at 30 years ago. Inevitably it fell for that "iconic" picture of two polar bears standing, seemingly forlorn, on a melting ice floe, despite the photographer's explanation that it had nothing to do with global warming and that she had only wanted to capture a dramatic snap of wind-sculpted ice.

The BBC couldn't wait to publicise the recent study claiming that Antarctica, far from getting colder over the past 50 years as all the evidence suggests, has in fact been warming. It didn't, of course, explain that the new study is based on a computer model run by the creator of the "hockey stick", which, in the absence of hard data, allows for inspired guesswork – what the study's authors call "sparse data infilling".

It was typical that, when that plastic polar bear was floated up the Thames last week, the BBC's favourite naturalist, Sir David Attenborough, should be wheeled on to claim that, although he once been a "sceptic" on global warming (a fact we had all somehow missed), he now found the "science" entirely convincing.

In terms of journalistic professionalism, the sad thing about all this is that the debate about global warming has now entered a fascinating new stage. Honest coverage of all the new information coming to light would be vastly more interesting to the BBC's audience than the vapid propaganda which is all they get.

But inevitably this also exposes the hollowness of all those claims that the BBC still has a duty to remain "impartial", which on this issue is belied by own guidelines. As a particularly glaring example of how the BBC has, on so many issues, abandoned any pretence of impartiality, this can only provide more ammunition to those who argue that it no longer deserves that compulsory licence fee.

[cruise4]

And just in case anyone doesn't know, polar bears regularly swim 100 miles for food and are capable of swimming up to 300 miles. Plus the photo used by Liar Gore was actually taken by an Australian marine biology student Amanda Byrd during August, “when every year the fringes of the Arctic ice cap melt regardless of the wider effects of global warming.”

Denis Simard of Environment Canada agreed:

"You have to keep in mind that the bears are not in danger at all. This is a perfect picture for climate change…you have the impression they are in the middle of the ocean and they are going to die...But they were not that far from the coast, and it was possible for them to swim...They are still alive and having fun."

Photographer Amanda Byrd gave her photo to fellow cruiser, Dan Crosbie - to have a look.

“Dan Crosbie gave the image to the Canadian Ice Service, who gave the image to Environment Canada, who distributed the image to 7 media agencies including AP.”

Associated Press released the photo two and a half years after it was taken, on the day the United Nations released its major global warming report.

[jesuitsdidit]

After a couple if cold days we heading toward an Ice-age, a week of hot summer days it's Global Warming. Give us a break!


oh so if i'd posted it last week you'd take it more seriously would you??
its not me who looks stupid..

[jesuitsdidit]

if any of you were in any way informed you wd know that imminent ice-age arrival was v loud in the 1970's then suddenly it got hushed up, wonder why??
try using your brains from time to time pls..

[jesuitsdidit]

oh so if i'd posted it last week you'd take it more seriously would you??
its not me who looks stupid..

or do you just think im one of those idiots who cant think??

[januspolanski]

I think its very possible that there is some kinda World changing event like this is coming, it would explain a lot of things that the NWO are doing.

-Building Underground cities.(Denver Airport etc).
-Plundering remaining world resources.( Iraq)
-Obtaining all the gold.
-Recruiting the finest minds out of college for a sort of master race.
-Not really caring that info about them is out and about.
-Scream about Global warming to divert from possible truth of coming Ice Age.
-Bringing in security measures like martial law/Homeland security for when the panic starts.

If you put the pieces of the puzzle together it seems to me that something big is on the horizon though its difficult to say what that may be.

[hewrote]

This winter has been so damn cold. Toronto can be a cold place even in the summer...but HOT damn it's been cold!!!

[gilly]

I'm too idle to hunt for links now, but I've been reading about an impending ice age last week.

Interestingly ,there were leading scientists suggesting that the melting polar ice-caps were the result of man made explosives to authenticate the appearance of global warming, which is a lucrative thing because of the taxes levied re carbon emissions.

There was talk of several thousand feet of ice likely to be covering Europe & Asia within a matter of a few years, so I should stick a vest on aswell as your gloves.

I'm not sure why the NWO want to be bothered wiping us out manually really, with so many natural disasters on the horizon.

[jesuitsdidit]

I'm too idle to hunt for links now, but I've been reading about an impending ice age last week.

Interestingly ,there were leading scientists suggesting that the melting polar ice-caps were the result of man made explosives to authenticate the appearance of global warming, which is a lucrative thing because of the taxes levied re carbon emissions.

There was talk of several thousand feet of ice likely to be covering Europe & Asia within a matter of a few years, so I should stick a vest on aswell as your gloves.

I'm not sure why the NWO want to be bothered wiping us out manually really, with so many natural disasters on the horizon.

or they prposely destroyed the ozone layer knowing it wd create warming
thats y the sun is so much brighter

[jesuitsdidit]

I'm not sure why the NWO want to be bothered wiping us out manually really, with so many natural disasters on the horizon.

coz they know they cdnt cope with 6 bn rioting and jostling 4 few resources once it hits so btr 2 get rid of them 1st

[jesuitsdidit]

or they prposely destroyed the ozone layer knowing it wd create warming
thats y the sun is so much brighter

if thats the case it cd b approaching fast

[jesuitsdidit]

if thats the case it cd b approaching fast

the questionis wot wd it b like now if they hadnt - prob already a few degrees down..

[jesuitsdidit]

i dont know how u can read articles like the ones ive posted and the vidoes of Robert Felix and dismiss it - beats me or u cant tell truth when u c it..

[morjo]

I don't know about an ice age, I think you should look at the weather patterns of the entire world before making assumptions like that. Southern Australia for example over the last few weeks has had a record amount of days well over 40 degrees celsius.

[the nine]

coz they know they cdnt cope with 6 bn rioting and jostling 4 few resources once it hits so btr 2 get rid of them 1st

but just wait awhile..surely.
its only 5 years as you say..they have been planning this NWO for around 300 years, surely waiting 5 more years..most of the populous gone..job done!

then they can come out of their underground cities and D.U.M.B. tunnels.

[the nine]

I don't know about an ice age, I think you should look at the weather patterns of the entire world before making assumptions like that. Southern Australia for example over the last few weeks has had a record amount of days well over 40 degrees celsius.

which is also really mad..because surely it should be 'northern' austrailia?

maybe the poles are shifting and we dont really know how to measure this as it is all new knowledge, to our scientists!

[morjo]

which is also really mad..because surely it should be 'northern' austrailia?

maybe the poles are shifting and we dont really know how to measure this as it is all new knowledge, to our scientists!

Northern Australia doesn't really get that hot, it usually stays around the 30's all year, but is very humid. The central part of Australia is the hottest part of the country.

[the nine]

Northern Australia doesn't really get that hot, it usually stays around the 30's all year, but is very humid. The central part of Australia is the hottest part of the country.

ok, thanks for the info :)

but still southern aussie? its just wrong!

what do you think of my polar shift guess?

[morjo]

Yes it could be correct, I've pondered that too.
This is an uneducated guess, but maybe there is a stronger solar energy/flares from the sun reaching the southern hemisphere and less for the northern.

[the nine]

Yes it could be correct, I've pondered that too.
This is an uneducated guess, but maybe there is a stronger solar energy/flares from the sun reaching the southern hemisphere and less for the northern.

yes maybe..certainly a possiblity.
but isnt the sun rotating?

[jesuitsdidit]

but just wait awhile..surely.
its only 5 years as you say..they have been planning this NWO for around 300 years, surely waiting 5 more years..most of the populous gone..job done!

then they can come out of their underground cities and D.U.M.B. tunnels.

i didnt say 5 yrs
HE says as little as 5 up to possibly 1,000

[father ted]

ok, thanks for the info :)

but still southern aussie? its just wrong!

what do you think of my polar shift guess?

YOU'RE TELLIN ME!


Equatorial regions around the world aren't the hottest and never have been, it's the aeas above and below the tropic zones. It could be the angle the sun hits these regions?

Extreeme weather conditions could also be the results of rituals.