The truth movement as masonic recruiting tool

[teslafire]

Yes, they open up the knowledge to normalize us to their overt rule, and yes they need us to be compliant, unconsciously, to their spells, but I've seen several people whom I've "woken up" come back to me lately and say
'Well if ya can't beat em, join em'.

I tell them that is silly because masons are even more controlled than average folk (of course this also applies to fear ridden conspiracy theorists as well...you know who you are) by way of possession rituals.

Many laugh at this and I quickly remind them how they first laughed at the mention of 'controlled demolition, federal reserve, verichip'...and then I make them buy me a drink.

My point is that this particular train of thought has spread and grown more popular as time and frustration has set in while being detached from straight society.

What are your observations?

[earthseed]

It's great PR for them I'm sure. And most people will research the hidden world but not try to change it or at least themselves. They will just say well that's the way it is better just go along with it so I can survive as long as possible. We really are in the time loop because I don't think what we are doing here is anything new.

[truthseeker1980]

It had the reverse effect with me, for years I always wanted to get in and be able to make more money and influence people's decisions.

My ex's dad was one, i went to a few dinner and dances and he asked if i would like to become one.

But after waking up to what's really going on, i decided I would never want to join them, when they are controlled more than we are and that i would be able to find out more info being out rather than in.

[oneofmany]

It had the reverse effect with me, for years I always wanted to get in and be able to make more money and influence people's decisions.

My ex's dad was one, i went to a few dinner and dances and he asked if i would like to become one.

But after waking up to what's really going on, i decided I would never want to join them, when they are controlled more than we are and that i would be able to find out more info being out rather than in.
Bullshit!!! Freemasons don't work that way.

[truthseeker1980]

Well he was bullshitting me then, i went to a few dinner and dances, he asked me if i was interested a few times. So i am only saying what he said so don't shoot the messanger.

Nutter!:p

[oneofmany]

Well he was bullshitting me then, i went to a few dinner and dances, he asked me if i was interested a few times. So i am only saying what he said so don't shoot the messanger.

Nutter!:pIf you knew anything about Freemasonry, they DON'T ASK YOU!!! It happened with me because my grandfather was a senile grand master who thought me talking to him about Freemasonry, was an invite to formerly ask about my intentions, but to have a Freemason ask you outright is WRONG

and what's with the nutter......LIAR

[montag]

All applicants must come of their own free will. They must ask a Mason about joining, or as we say..... TO BE ONE - ASK ONE.;)
http://grandlodge.on.ca/FamilyFreemasonry.htm

[oneofmany]

All applicants must come of their own free will. They must ask a Mason about joining, or as we say..... TO BE ONE - ASK ONE.;)
http://grandlodge.on.ca/FamilyFreemasonry.htmExactly.......

[oneofmany]

All applicants must come of their own free will. They must ask a Mason about joining, or as we say..... TO BE ONE - ASK ONE.;)
http://grandlodge.on.ca/FamilyFreemasonry.htmAre you a Freemason???

[montag]

Are you a Freemason???
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4981

[oneofmany]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4981
Nice thread, but failed to answer said question?

[montag]

Nice thread, but failed to answer said question?
I think it does adequately..:p

[oneofmany]

I'm sorry, this thread doesn't qualify as a rant so I'm moving it to general..:p your response to the thread was commented by another forum nazi, teslafire in the form of this Do as you must my Master Mason

*salute*
So I have to conclude that you are a proud Master Mason, and are telling me so by directing me to this thread. Is this correct???

[oneofmany]

or do I trust Lime's response Hey brothers montag and teslafire, I seem to have forgotten how to do those funny masonic signal thingies we're meant to do....can one of you PM them to me please? Don't want to let the team down an all that. :p

Meantime lets shake on that http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Science_and_Body/Hands_and_Feet/Hand_shake.gif

Brother Lime ;) and assume you are taking the piss!!

[oneofmany]

Personally, I'm with this guy im a bit confused here.

a moderator started this thread?
hah crazy.

so whos the alien/s without memory?

ill join in the LOL fest also


LOL

[truthseeker1980]

Oi one of many, stop being so childish and actually read what i wrote.

Like i said i don't know anything about freemasonry, i went to a few dinner and dances, her Dad may be wrong to have asked my intentions, but is that my fault, he hasn't been a full member for years anyway, so maybe that's why.

Anyway if you don't read between the lines and actually read what i wrote you will find that he didn't ask me to join anyway.

He asked if i was interested in joining, not whether I wanted to join, seeing as his daughter used to tell him things about what i had learned, two seperate things really. I was not asked to join, he asked if i was interested in the masons, text can be misread and whether i had ever thought about joining.

So i aint a liar. He was obviously a naughty mason. Or was trying to find out how i knew certains things and what my intentions were, probably more than like with his daughter too.

[oneofmany]

Well he was bullshitting me then, i went to a few dinner and dances, he asked me if i was interested a few times. So i am only saying what he said so don't shoot the messanger.

Nutter!:pWhat is this happy horeshit then???

NON MASONIC BEHAVIOR

[oneofmany]

Oi one of many, stop being so childish and actually read what i wrote. I did and it smacked of being a LIE

Like i said i don't know anything about freemasonry,Right i went to a few dinner and dances, her Dad may be wrong to have asked my intentions, Utterly wrong in the eyes of Freemasonry, to the point that they wouldn't do it but is that my fault, he hasn't been a full member for years anyway, so maybe that's why. That's the cardinal rule that he would of broke, and dishonoured his brethren

Anyway if you don't read between the lines and actually read what i wrote you will find that he didn't ask me to join anyway. I read what you wrote, it just happens to be BULLSHIT

He asked if i was interested in joining, not whether I wanted to join,It don't work that way seeing as his daughter used to tell him things about what i had learned, two seperate things really. I was not asked to join, he asked if i was interested in the masons, I don't believe you, despite your handle text can be misread and whether i had ever thought about joining. That's irrelevant. A MASON IN HIS RIGHT MIND WOULD NOT ASK YOU!!!!

So i aint a liar.I disagree He was obviously a naughty mason.or one that didn't believe the consequences of his actions Or was trying to find out how i knew certains things and what my intentions were,there were other ways of finding that out probably more than like with his daughter too.I still don't believe you, and your supposedly seeking truth :p

[truthseeker1980]

Interested in the masons, FFS you read too much into it. Not interested in joining, he wasn't trying to recruit me or anything. This is hard work!!

I now know how my text messages can be misread when i send to potential girly's from the night before. LOL

This is a completely pointless arguement. With no real reason either.

[oneofmany]

Interested in the masons, FFS you read too much into it. Not interested in joining, he wasn't trying to recruit me or anything. This is hard work!!

I now know how my text messages can be misread when i send to potential girly's from the night before. LOL

This is a completely pointless arguement. With no real reason either.If you don't want people to get the wrong idea, be more articulate in the future, this comes from your poor choice of words, not my misunderstanding. I'm only reading into it what is in front of me, nothing more, and you started this argument, by calling me a nutter or don't you remember that?

[truthseeker1980]

It was a term of endearment. ;) LOL

I know i should check my posts before posting, some don't even read english properly, but i'm at work and just type then post.

[lifeofbrian]

The truth movement as masonic recruiting tool

Yes, they open up the knowledge to normalize us to their overt rule, and yes they need us to be compliant, unconsciously, to their spells, but I've seen several people whom I've "woken up" come back to me lately and say
'Well if ya can't beat em, join em'.

I tell them that is silly because masons are even more controlled than average folk (of course this also applies to fear ridden conspiracy theorists as well...you know who you are) by way of possession rituals.

Many laugh at this and I quickly remind them how they first laughed at the mention of 'controlled demolition, federal reserve, verichip'...and then I make them buy me a drink.

My point is that this particular train of thought has spread and grown more popular as time and frustration has set in while being detached from straight society.

What are your observations?

First of all it is beyond me why anybody would want to join anything demanding you dress like a penguin come waiter. As for possession rituals I think that is possible and very common. Go to any concert and feel the "vibe". If it makes an addict out of you - voila. Secular society has a great way of keeping people grounded. Forced to deal with facts and reality. But many people do not seem to want that. Even if they study the occult and the nature of reality they seem to do it out of a want to escape from responsibility/reality/facts of life/"people who make you feel uncomfortable"/"negativity".

As for "the truth movement as a masonic recruiting tool" I had no idea there was a "truth movement". I am well versed in how the media works and how disinformation artists work and see people all the time unwittingly acting like one. Even those pretending (sorry: assuring) to be exposing disinformation artists often end up looking like one. (You know why? Guess who wrote the "disinformation formula"?)

But back to your point: well if people want to join the masons what can you do? It is their life. Not your responsibility at the end of the day.

[celtic isis]

Bullshit!!! Freemasons don't work that way.

actually truthseeker was right, they do work this way sometimes!

[chris]

Going back to Tesla's point...I think you could be right.

I think it's a joke that a lot of conspiracy theorists believe that all you need to do is join the masons, a few pompus rituals and they'll give you a great job where you hardly need to do anything but give a few orders on belhalf of TPTB and you can retire after a few years:D

My dad was in the Round Table for 14 years, was high up in the Natwest bank, has trophies for sealing contracts with weapon manufactorers (bae) and believe me, they worked him to the fucking bone, I hardly ever saw him when I was a kid...He didn't get paid that much, we were probably just above middle class.

If you join the Masons then you will be network a lot better and may find it easier to get a better job but if your only joining for that reason then they won't trust you at all.

I don't think masons are really that powerful anymore...Look at how much their symbolism was about 50-100 years ago, now there is rarely that level of sophistication of symbolism and when they do attempt it, it's no way near as good.

[chris]

actually truthseeker was right, they do work this way sometimes!

So far I've got 4 complete strangers to admit they are masons, they are crap at keeping secrets. All you need to do is explain a little knowledge on the subject and they blurt it straight out thinking you are one also. I don't think they really take it that seriously, it's mostly a gentlemans club who like to think they are important by engaging in dogmatic rituals.

[whitenight639]

I don't think masons are really that powerful anymore...Look at how much their symbolism was about 50-100 years ago, now there is rarely that level of sophistication of symbolism and when they do attempt it, it's no way near as good.

Do you not read the paper or watch the tv??

[parallel]

my father (who for the record before i get acused of being a freemason, i do not have contact with anymore) went through as he used to call the chair (grandmaster of the lodge) twice, he had designs on me becoming a lewis (son of mason) and following him. i went to an informal meal, was'nt impressed and decided this clicky little club as i thought it, was not for me. my point, weather this is true or not is that my dad told me you cannot ask to be a mason, you need to be ivited to some meetings, checked out informally by the other masons, because annother mason has to second you. then you can still get black balled by just one mason and you dont get in. this was all long before i even knew what a mason really was. later on 3 or 4 years later whilst working for an old employer during a chat about how and why i dont see my dad anymore, i told this guy what my dad was involved with, he promptly told me not all masons are the same and would i like to come to a meeting. this i declined. he also informed me that you need to be invited into the masons and could only be invited once, the same mason cannot ask you again. my father was also a policeman for 30 years, i know this exposure i had only helped me to awaken to the bullshit. untill i found out about davids and others work about a 18 months ago i still had no idea what these people were really about, but inside i knew somthing was'nt right.

[parallel]

Yes, they open up the knowledge to normalize us to their overt rule, and yes they need us to be compliant, unconsciously, to their spells, but I've seen several people whom I've "woken up" come back to me lately and say
'Well if ya can't beat em, join em'.



i find this true teslafire, quite a few of the people i've tried to clue up have had the same reaction, like "well someone has to run things" for some of my friends its not about joining them as much as letting them do it.

[graflok]

If you knew anything about Freemasonry, they DON'T ASK YOU!!!

Last year I was invited to join by 2 different members. One of
them is a 33rd degree, an author of occult books and a minor celebrity.

I declined.

[supertzar]

TO BE ONE - ASK ONE.

Yes, these are the exact words of my Grandfather.

I know someone who was asked to join, though, so they do recruit people.

[parallel]

oneofmany, you are quite aggressive in your opinions arent you? (retorical no need to answer)
it seems that by the chat in this thread that either, you ask them if you want in and they ask you if they want you in. that being cleared up we should be getting back to teslafire's question.

[synergy777]

the masons are a recruiting tool for the nwo, the nwo is tool of the vatican. understand the structure, pyramid structure to the hierarchy, hence the missing capstone could be the secret power at the top ( synagogue of stan/serpent brotherhood/black pope). or it could be the stone the builders rejected, the capstone/yashuah. remember yashuah said the stone that builder (masons?) refused. was he who they refused, remember the clergy dismissed his teacher status, and conspired to killed him. or is the missing capstone the nwo's teacher/leader, the antichrist. hence upon his arrival, their pyramid/work of the ages, will be fulfilled/completed.

anybody got the friday feeling, friday to saturday is the real sabbath, day of rest. sun-day is solar day, the first day of the week. have had cool, busy week.

[baron von lotsov]

Well he was bullshitting me then, i went to a few dinner and dances, he asked me if i was interested a few times. So i am only saying what he said so don't shoot the messanger.

Nutter!:p


I know it works that way and I know a few people on here are working for them either consciously or unconsciously. There is so much bullshit around that the only thing you can be certain of is whether the facts agree with direct experience. Some people have no direct experience of the truth.

[john white]

I know it works that way and I know a few people on here are working for them either consciously or unconsciously

And do you suspect yourself Baron? You should!

[king]

Yes, they open up the knowledge to normalize us to their overt rule, and yes they need us to be compliant, unconsciously, to their spells, but I've seen several people whom I've "woken up" come back to me lately and say
'Well if ya can't beat em, join em'.

I tell them that is silly because masons are even more controlled than average folk (of course this also applies to fear ridden conspiracy theorists as well...you know who you are) by way of possession rituals.

Many laugh at this and I quickly remind them how they first laughed at the mention of 'controlled demolition, federal reserve, verichip'...and then I make them buy me a drink.

My point is that this particular train of thought has spread and grown more popular as time and frustration has set in while being detached from straight society.

What are your observations?
yes
I have seen a trend towards popularizing masonic ideology, not only in alternative media but also in mainstream media.

i think that PTBs will use anything in their power to push the fence straddlers into Masonic side of yard, and they use all kind of trickery, manily by catering to people's fragile egos and their need for recognition.

MSM like Fox and Discovery channel ran shitload of Masonic-related shows in which secret societies are portrayed as "cool" and "special"

so, that way Joe Shmo will become the part of the 'elite' not ever realising that
A: he is being neutralised as a threat because of few promissed trinkets and (a fake) status
B: he is working against his own future, and future of his children,
C: he is being bound by an oath to stay loyal to his brothers while there is a carrot hanging on the stick in front of his face so he won't have balls to quit

all while he is feeling 'special'
I know a Mason dude just like that and I also know a Mormon dude that told me that he feels "special". And, since Mormons are doing same rituals as
Masons -- they are essentialy the same, except Mormons give away 10% of their gross income (tithing?) to their church of Lucifer (human intellect)

so, you are on right track teslafire.
those mofos that sit on top know us, the people better than we, the people know ourselves


that is how we are ruled, by our own ignorance of who we really are,
by buying illusions and BS, by trying to satisfy our fragile egos.

but, when you know who you trully are -- you can see through it all and
you do not need any of that crap, no orders or organizations.
but, how many people are able to think and feel this way?

therefore the greatest challenge that we have is to KNOW THYSELF!

[chris]

Do you not read the paper or watch the tv??

I don't watch TV but I occasionally read the daily mail...

The symbolism is still there but it's not nearly as good or even in many highend places where you would have thought it would have been if the masons were still on top. A lot of the symbolism back then were boarderline master pieces, now they are shabby copies.

[lifeofbrian]

And do you suspect yourself Baron? You should!

He should indeed. The perfect disinformation artist as if straight out of Tavistock.

Well spotted John White.

[john white]

He should indeed. The perfect disinformation artist as if straight out of Tavistock.

Well spotted John White.

Ha! Well I don't think the Baron is working for "them": but the idea that one can consciously notice the subconscious motivation/manipulation/programs of others whilst being blind to the subconscious motivation/manipulation/programs of the self is a folly worth pointing out, and I have posted on the same forums as the Baron long enough to have seen his blindspots on display time and time again... probably I should resist, but its often worth poking him... for the sake of others if not himself

[ashyr]

from what i gather. the freemasons did something a long time ago.which they are in debt to a higher force that manipulates them now. so anything they are doing is an atempt to buy there way out of the DEBT.

they are trapped just as much as us. except the fact that most of us are ignorant.

[lifeofbrian]

Ha! Well I don't think the Baron is working for "them": but the idea that one can consciously notice the subconscious motivation/manipulation/programs of others whilst being blind to the subconscious motivation/manipulation/programs of the self is a folly worth pointing out, and I have posted on the same forums as the Baron long enough to have seen his blindspots on display time and time again... probably I should resist, but its often worth poking him... for the sake of others if not himself

What?

Well it is a fancy method do you not think. Barging in somewhere claiming to be the Voice of Reason and Truth - pointing fingers everywhere but close to home and calling people derogatory names for disagreeing.

Unless someone is blind: look at the agitator crying wolf wolf and so seeming to be the defender of truth and clarity of mind.

No way. The web is full of "Barons von Lots'of'it" so pull the other one.

[ashyr]

just look @ the intent behind the words chosen

[oneofmany]

actually truthseeker was right, they do work this way sometimes!No... they don't

[oneofmany]

oneofmany, you are quite aggressive in your opinions arent you? (retorical no need to answer)
it seems that by the chat in this thread that either, you ask them if you want in and they ask you if they want you in. that being cleared up we should be getting back to teslafire's question.What's it to you? was I talking to you? they are not opinions but rather FACT. Your rather smug with your responses aren't you?

[parallel]

What's it to you? was I talking to you? they are not opinions but rather FACT. Your rather smug with your responses aren't you?

whats it to me?

well im interested in the truth

was i talking to you?

its a fourm, you are talking to the world mate.


they are not opinions but rather FACT

well i beg to differ, that is my right, we all have our own experiences on what we beleive to be fact and personal research is the only way to come to these conclusions.

Your rather smug with your responses aren't you?

i was just pointing out to you that type/shouting your opinions and personal facts at other peoples with your caps lock on does not strenghen any of your arguments. it only serves to make you look agressive.

btw, when you get 2 mins look up the word retorical in the dictionary, it may save you time in future.

appoligies to teslafire for going off topic.

[oneofmany]

whats it to me?

well im interested in the truth

was i talking to you?

its a fourm, you are talking to the world mate.


they are not opinions but rather FACT

well i beg to differ, that is my right, we all have our own experiences on what we beleive to be fact and personal research is the only way to come to these conclusions.

Your rather smug with your responses aren't you?

i was just pointing out to you that type/shouting your opinions and personal facts at other peoples with your caps lock on does not strenghen any of your arguments. it only serves to make you look agressive.

btw, when you get 2 mins look up the word retorical in the dictionary, it may save you time in future.

appoligies to teslafire for going off topic.you like the insults don't you mate? What's it to you how I come across?, I was responding to another person, about my own experiences and what I know of freemasonry rules. If you don't like the way I talk to somebody else, stiff shit! and it's spelled rhetorical maybe you should look it up in a dictionary. LOL

[parallel]

spelling is a minor but thanks for the english lesson. As long as you understood what i was saying thats all that matters.

appoligies to teslafire for going off topic.

[parallel]

Yes, they open up the knowledge to normalize us to their overt rule, and yes they need us to be compliant, unconsciously, to their spells, but I've seen several people whom I've "woken up" come back to me lately and say
'Well if ya can't beat em, join em'.

I tell them that is silly because masons are even more controlled than average folk (of course this also applies to fear ridden conspiracy theorists as well...you know who you are) by way of possession rituals.

Many laugh at this and I quickly remind them how they first laughed at the mention of 'controlled demolition, federal reserve, verichip'...and then I make them buy me a drink.

My point is that this particular train of thought has spread and grown more popular as time and frustration has set in while being detached from straight society.

What are your observations?
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