Children Can See The Reptoids

[thelyran]

...not just being a father but have been very fortunate to speak with children
on their open hearted level.They come to me,when I walk down the street,go
out of their way,at times to wave and say hello.Very touching moments.
Children who are allowed to develope their own capacities without dominant
parents super-imposing their fears and retrenched emotional blockages,upon
the child,never loose that second sight.
Once you show interest,any child opens up and tells you all of their observations and personal points of view.To me,they are the most psychic sections of society.Now you know why I urge readers for years to find the inner-child within themselves to enhance awareness,happiness and general well-being.You'll find,that all of the vices,that you have only entertain for a short duration...that there is a little temple of God within.This is true happiness...if you dwell on all things cruel,that happened to you,It'll be a long time coming.
Back in 2002,at the height of the psychic attacks endured,I was fortunate
to speak with children in the five to seven year brackets.Many opened up to me...and the children offered,me the insight,that they keep seeing the crocodile man.This is in Maitland NSW.Many did'nt react with fear,but said he is a bad man,or a smelly man...One even described the colours of clouds
around peoples bodies,auras to us,and that some had strange attatchments...
like white/grey skulls...or strings that went to other places that they could'nt see.
I quizzed another forum member here,who is positive to neutral towards
reptiles,to ask his children if he could see the crocodile man...he froze,...
and after a long pause,said I don't have to,because I see them...he was amazed that I knew.The only problem I have with this user,is that he drinks to much and post here under the influence...which to my knowledge,experience and belief...invites the lower vibratory caste into your sphere or space of influence.

Has anyone else had these experiences...or taken notice of what seems extraordinary at the time...a childs honest observation...?
fascinating.

[octopusrex]

...not just being a father but have been very fortunate to speak with children
on their open hearted level.They come to me,when I walk down the street,go
out of their way,at times to wave and say hello.Very touching moments.
Children who are allowed to develope their own capacities without dominant
parents super-imposing their fears and retrenched emotional blockages,upon
the child,never loose that second sight.
Once you show interest,any child opens up and tells you all of their observations and personal points of view.To me,they are the most psychic sections of society.Now you know why I urge readers for years to find the inner-child within themselves to enhance awareness,happiness and general well-being.You'll find,that all of the vices,that you have only entertain for a short duration...that there is a little temple of God within.This is true happiness...if you dwell on all things cruel,that happened to you,It'll be a long time coming.
Back in 2002,at the height of the psychic attacks endured,I was fortunate
to speak with children in the five to seven year brackets.Many opened up to me...and the children offered,me the insight,that they keep seeing the crocodile man.This is in Maitland NSW.Many did'nt react with fear,but said he is a bad man,or a smelly man...One even described the colours of clouds
around peoples bodies,auras to us,and that some had strange attatchments...
like white/grey skulls...or strings that went to other places that they could'nt see.
I quizzed another forum member here,who is positive to neutral towards
reptiles,to ask his children if he could see the crocodile man...he froze,...
and after a long pause,said I don't have to,because I see them...he was amazed that I knew.The only problem I have with this user,is that he drinks to much and post here under the influence...which to my knowledge,experience and belief...invites the lower vibratory caste into your sphere or space of influence.

Has anyone else had these experiences...or taken notice of what seems extraordinary at the time...a childs honest observation...?
fascinating.

Not only shapeshifters, but ghosts, angels, gnomes, and a bunch of other creepy crawlies that ordinary adults forgot how to "see". This is the secret of Buddhist philosophy: having a child-like mind.

[siphon880di]

Not only shapeshifters, but ghosts, angels, gnomes, and a bunch of other creepy crawlies that ordinary adults forgot how to "see". This is the secret of Buddhist philosophy: having a child-like mind.

So how do you have a child-like mind? Does anyone know?

[lordreptoid]

Babies and children always gasp and smile at me and point shaking their finger at me while trying to get their mother's attention. The kids know who I am, it's adults that are blinded by their own silly fear. ;)

[thelyran]

Not only shapeshifters, but ghosts, angels, gnomes, and a bunch of other creepy crawlies that ordinary adults forgot how to "see". This is the secret of Buddhist philosophy: having a child-like mind.

...really,Buddhist philosophical secret...I had no idea,not being acquainted very well with any thought-stream or religeous text...you always have good
post adding to the discussion Octopusrex.
Siphon asked how to obtain the child like mind,my only solution is not to
suppress hurt and pain,but undo things that one learns,realize that others
who contribute negatively to your growth are the ones caught so deeply within the "game"...that most of their existance,is wasted misleading others.
Think of it as a big video game...hurts alot less.
...But children left to grow at pristine levels,yes,they do appear to be able to retain the abilities to view beyond the veil...

[siphon880di]

...really,Buddhist philosophical secret...I had no idea,not being acquainted very well with any thought-stream or religeous text...you always have good
post adding to the discussion Octopusrex.
Siphon asked how to obtain the child like mind,my only solution is not to
suppress hurt and pain,but undo things that one learns,realize that others
who contribute negatively to your growth are the ones caught so deeply within the "game"...that most of their existance,is wasted misleading others.
Think of it as a big video game...hurts alot less.
...But children left to grow at pristine levels,yes,they do appear to be able to retain the abilities to view beyond the veil...

I see. So basically take responsibility of what's really going on.

[thelyran]

I see. So basically take responsibility of what's really going on.

forgive and pity them,have empathy for them,might be a better way to explain it.Which actually clears and heals your own heart...you self heal when
you forgive others...which aids you to see clearly,thus making second vision possible.Funny how it works.

[metacomet]

Babies and children always gasp and smile at me and point shaking their finger at me while trying to get their mother's attention. The kids know who I am, it's adults that are blinded by their own silly fear. ;)

:rolleyes: K.

I'm surprised you haven't been banned from this site.

[lordreptoid]

I'm surprised you haven't been banned from this site.

Because I'm not breaking any rules and many people like me here. Anything else I can clear up for you, stranger?

[astrochicken]

So how do you have a child-like mind? Does anyone know?

Phew.. that's a hard one to answer.

IMHO First, foremost and the most important is to just percieve without judgement.

I'm not talking half-full or half-empty glasses.. as that's allready a step too far.

Let's say its a lovely day and the sky is blue and there's a big fluffy cloud above

You could say (half-full) : "I'm glad they're not spraying today"
You could say: (half-empty): "Fuck, too bright, where are my fucking sunglasses?"
You could say": "Awwwww.... fluffy clouds.. and a walk in the sunshine"

The song "Dear Prudence" to me expresses perfectly a childlike view of everything.


In that sense, i don't think i'll ever grow up.
Last Saturday, my kids (4&6) and i walked about 4 miles through a forest.. i was surpised that they wanted to keep going with their wee legs, we took our time, they played and slid over frozen puddles, showed me where the fairies live, tried to stalk deer and just lived in the "here and now".

What was the point of that story? fuck knows.

Here's the lyrics to dear prudence anyway


Dear Prudence, won't you come out to play

Dear Prudence, greet the brand new day

The sun is up, the sky is blue

It's beautiful and so are you

Dear Prudence won't you come out and play



Dear Prudence open up your eyes

Dear Prudence see the sunny skies

The wind is low the birds will sing

that you are part of everything

Dear Prudence won't you open up your eyes?



Look around round

Look around round round

Look around



Dear Prudence let me see you smile

Dear Prudence like a little child

The clouds will be a daisy chain

So let me see you smile again

Dear Prudence won't you let me see you smile?

[siphon880di]

Thanks, astro that makes sense. I've used the laws of attraction the best when I have a childish mind about things. I would enjoy something in the fullest sense as if I know nothing about it, then think there will be more of it in my life - in my daily experiences or imagination. It usually works.

I believe that some times there is power in being more free spirit.

[thelyran]

Phew.. that's a hard one to answer.

IMHO First, foremost and the most important is to just percieve without judgement.

I'm not talking half-full or half-empty glasses.. as that's allready a step too far.

Let's say its a lovely day and the sky is blue and there's a big fluffy cloud above

You could say (half-full) : "I'm glad they're not spraying today"
You could say: (half-empty): "Fuck, too bright, where are my fucking sunglasses?"
You could say": "Awwwww.... fluffy clouds.. and a walk in the sunshine"

The song "Dear Prudence" to me expresses perfectly a childlike view of everything.


In that sense, i don't think i'll ever grow up.
Last Saturday, my kids (4&6) and i walked about 4 miles through a forest.. i was surpised that they wanted to keep going with their wee legs, we took our time, they played and slid over frozen puddles, showed me where the fairies live, tried to stalk deer and just lived in the "here and now".

What was the point of that story? fuck knows.

Here's the lyrics to dear prudence anyway


...That was a masterpiece The Beatles White Album...it has moments where
it can take the mind to other places without the drugs...
What I try to promote is inner peace for free...to appreciate everything you have,try to avoid the murk.Appreciate animals,even though one is forced to eat them,respect all life forms...an example,a short time ago,a small
cricket was in the house,it's hot here in Australia,I have cats.The cricket was in the kitchen sink,I used a spoon to scoop it out,it jumps on the floor,eye to eye with Lisa,the said cat.I projected at the cricket,it's either trust in me...
or face Lisa...then my heart felt sadness for it,been lost,it turned on the spot
and was able to coax it to jump on my hand and take it outdoors...many say
animals and creatures lack the mind we do...this is not so.Animals and creatures have the same life-force coarsing through their minds and bodies as
we do...in fact,they're more in tune with the Earth Spirit than we,as they're able to relocate themselves before a natural disaster happens,where we have become disconnected,through manipulation and indoctrination.We perish.
Spend enough time and you will notice animals and creatures display love
...and in someways try to show us,if you're paying attention.
Yes,appreciate the Fluffy White Clouds...
When your children seemed tireless,walking through the forest,wanting to go on and on,is because they are tuning into the Earth Spirit,I get that too,like a thunderstorm,it charges you up with energy...I really appreciated your
post Astrochicken...one,you're a father...you made valid connections,even if you covered up your reservations with attitude,to avoid any mocking post to follow...what you got instead,was support.Thankyou for your time...
Regards Sir.

[thelyran]

Thanks, astro that makes sense. I've used the laws of attraction the best when I have a childish mind about things. I would enjoy something in the fullest sense as if I know nothing about it, then think there will be more of it in my life - in my daily experiences or imagination. It usually works.

I believe that some times there is power in being more free spirit.

...that post you made before...then removed it was true,but I appreciate the fact that you removed it in favour in keeping this thread on track...thankyou Siphon...if you want to air your grievances,start a thread for example
The Reptilian ADL(Anti-defamation League)...that should invite the comments and debate about direction or misdirection this thread has had of late...thanks

[thelyran]

...what I am trying to promote,is the safe and positive way to rending the veil
..the dimensional shroud that hides the possessed and the full-blown reptoid.
There are two paths...the use of drugs...or raising your vibratory energy system and awareness...making the shift away from the auric colours of black,red,orange,yellow,browns...maintaining a green / blue for balance...and shifting to indigo,purple...and hopefully the premiere colours of silver,white...
lastly gold,which is your true soul colour...
The use of drugs damages your aura,renders holes in it,creating little dimensional portals within yourself,leaking energy,that's when you see the
lower alien scum,they come to you...doing it the hardway,good clean diet,clean pure water,detoxification of preservatives,heavy metals,avoiding media and material designed to trap you,spending time with matters that promote care and responsibility...is the slow way to natural psychism,awareness...but it's a talent you will hold onto if you can maintain
and control your anger and indignancies.
Being child-minded,is the best method I found to do this...but must admit,
have been child-like most of my life,even my enemies comment,that they
admire that I was able to retain some features from my life...sometimes,I wake,sobbing with tears,remembering Lord Howe Island,when I lived there and
was happy...wanting to go back,or old Pudden cat,who was my companion for sixteen years...who even smoked pot with me in my teens,from the bong and mouth blowing the smoke down her throat...she loved hash...she'd sit on the water tank,waiting for me to come home from High-School...sit with me on the waterfront in Buff Point,where I lived in my teens...I'd take a Ghetto blaster,smoke pot with her,playing Brian Eno's Before And After Science...
just watching the small waves ebbing between the rocks...
"Spider And I,Sit watching the sky,In a world without sound"....
I have been very fortunate...unlike others stuck in concrete jungles...
If you do experiment with drugs,do please try to keep it to a minimum,1-2 times a week smoking pot,cool.1-4 times a year for hallucinogens...
DO NOT...take amphetamine and other dopamine aggravators...this is exactly the vibration of the lower Astral is,and this is how I used to channel negative energies...and project them,I was as bad as the occultist I whinge about...
and better at it,they can create energy projected attacks...I can single-handedly weave a reality of my choosing,inline with the laws of attraction
according to one's deeds...based on their own psychology and misdeeds...
but no,I'm not interested in occultism,pah...mere collage idiots,or lodges...
simple natural beauty,is much more important...to obtain the knowledge,that
makes you a god,coupled with the desire not to interfere in anything or self-empower yourself off the back of others sufferings...this is the true model for Godhead...and the path and time duration is upto your own tolerances...

Next we discuss...the need for seperating oneself from the control hatred has
to develope yourself,without the reptilian guiding us...we don't need them...
we are what they want to be...

[astrochicken]

There are two paths...the use of drugs...or raising your vibratory energy system and awareness...

If you do experiment with drugs,do please try to keep it to a minimum,1-2 times a week smoking pot,cool.1-4 times a year for hallucinogens...
DO NOT...take amphetamine and other dopamine aggravators...


I agree with you there, though i stopped smoking pot 6 years ago as I, in my own words, "was a moody bastard" in the mornings. To some, that's what happens... :(

My take on drugs.. if it grows naturally, and you can ingest,chew, smoke,drink or snort it, in it's NATURAL and UNREFINED state.. then by all means. ;)

[thelyran]

I agree with you there, though i stopped smoking pot 6 years ago as I, in my own words, "was a moody bastard" in the mornings. To some, that's what happens... :(

My take on drugs.. if it grows naturally, and you can ingest,chew, smoke,drink or snort it, in it's NATURAL and UNREFINED state.. then by all means. ;)

thankyou Astrochicken...
It was Terrance McKenna,that introduced me to responsible drug-use,only late in the game,last year.I got a friend,who is involved with IT and has unlimited Broadband d/l at 8mb/second...he d/l for me 26gig on Entheogens,videos and books...and have adopted his principles,to an extent.
I was a drug fiend and addict,probably always be,even if I don't use anymore.
Except for very sporadic smoking.
I have not tried Ayahausca or other DMT derivatives...but may do after I
gain complete disconnection from some negative occultist.It's a trip best tried alone and in nature,in the Winter season...we got alot of snakes in the
bush...so sensibility prevails.
But the weed agrees with me,where I get sick and dirty on a few beers or scotch...very low vibratory stuff...there's a reason distilled liquids are called spirits,it comes from Ancient Egypt...the priest used it for communicating with
the spirits.
But certain intoxins,react differently due to the racial DNA.
But will admit,some of the best experiences occurred under the influence of
LSD...pure liquid vial,LSD-25..2 drops on a Vitamin C tablet...I took four,the equivalent to 8 doses,enough to drop an elephant...I turned into the very
thing I despise,a reptoid,white silver auraed...it was just a hallucination...I was sitting by the plum tree,the sunlight,shining through the leaves,forming
black and white tiles,spiralling in and making a letter G...bit of a trip.But going
shopping was an ordeal...bursting out uncontrollably laughing,drooling...
Some noob fingered me pointing"that c$#*'s trppin...I hid in woolworths in the
tampon section,giggling...Bogeyman's gonna get me...hehehehe".

[jonny78]

Now don't laugh at me, but apparently I saw "something" as a kid that freaked me out one day-I dubbed it the "Chocolate Man". I cannot for the life of me remember what it was or what exactly happened. I was young.

I looked out my bedroom window one afternoon, saw whatever it was, and ran out of the room screaming. I called it the "Chocolate Man" and described him as "his face being the color of pumpkin pie".

Later on, we were driving by a mountain or a hill and my parents remembered me commenting that this was where the "Chocolate Man" lived.

Maybe I should try some hypnosis to remember what it was I saw? For all I know, it was probably just some bum or drifter I saw but this thread made me remember that incident for some reason.

[thelyran]

Now don't laugh at me, but apparently I saw "something" as a kid that freaked me out one day-I dubbed it the "Chocolate Man". I cannot for the life of me remember what it was or what exactly happened. I was young.

I looked out my bedroom window one afternoon, saw whatever it was, and ran out of the room screaming. I called it the "Chocolate Man" and described him as "his face being the color of pumpkin pie".

Later on, we were driving by a mountain or a hill and my parents remembered me commenting that this was where the "Chocolate Man" lived.

Maybe I should try some hypnosis to remember what it was I saw? For all I know, it was probably just some bum or drifter I saw but this thread made me remember that incident for some reason.

...you're not to be laughed at...you're brave enough to write your account
and that's what I call bravery and humility.You sound like you grew up in Colarado...or the Rockies...My parents used to catch me hiding behind curtains when I was young,giggling,from the faeries...or the equivalent
interpretation...the scary one was when I'd wake up from nightmare,calling out...Mum..." The Bones"...I don't remember that,they told me...but I did have the whole Island looking for me...I went missing for 14 hours or more...
I ran away on my pedal car...drove everywhere with it...little yellow car...fun.
Dig the avatar...liked his early films as a kid...and his Magnum .44.

[jonny78]

...you're not to be laughed at...you're brave enough to write your account
and that's what I call bravery and humility.You sound like you grew up in Colarado...or the Rockies...My parents used to catch me hiding behind curtains when I was young,giggling,from the faeries...or the equivalent
interpretation...the scary one was when I'd wake up from nightmare,calling out...Mum..." The Bones"...I don't remember that,they told me...but I did have the whole Island looking for me...I went missing for 14 hours or more...
I ran away on my pedal car...drove everywhere with it...little yellow car...fun.
Dig the avatar...liked his early films as a kid...and his Magnum .44.

Actually, this occured in Martinsville, VA-which is basically a NASCAR Mecca now. But there were quite a few mountains, hills, and wooded areas near my house at the time.

Interesting how I have zero recollection of the incident...what the guy looked like and so forth. All I remember from that day is an image of my bedroom window with the afternoon sun shining through it.

[thelyran]

Actually, this occured in Martinsville, VA-which is basically a NASCAR Mecca now. But there were quite a few mountains, hills, and wooded areas near my house at the time.

Interesting how I have zero recollection of the incident...what the guy looked like and so forth. All I remember from that day is an image of my bedroom window with the afternoon sun shining through it.

can you think back if there was any urban legends or other stories floating around at the time?similar say,The Mothman,not saying this is what it was...
strange disappearances?...sightings...pity,you could'nt re-collect the clothing.
Could've been a street living/homeless Vietnam veteran as well...but I'm open to what a child sees...glad it triggered a memory...must have had some impact to trigger a lost memory....Lisa cat is on my shoulders licking my ear...tickles.:D

[octopusrex]

So how do you have a child-like mind? Does anyone know?

Since I am NOT a Buddhist monk, what seems to work for me is a bit of weed and once or twice yearly a heavy munchie, like shrooms, peyote or aya. Hmmmaybe a littl' more depending on availability.

[astrochicken]

Since I am NOT a Buddhist monk, what seems to work for me is a bit of weed and once or twice yearly a heavy munchie, like shrooms, peyote or aya. Hmmmaybe a littl' more depending on availability.



LOL.. i'm fond of shrooms too and have had, still am, and will do copious amounts BUT percieving without judgement is the bottom line for us, adults, to see things the way children do.



If you'd to have had a lot of prior trips in order to RE-achieve that, then so be it. As the saying goes: "The path of excess leads to the palace of wisdom."

Before taking octopusrex' advice or requiring further information please consult your doctor,pharmacist or drug dealer.

[lordreptoid]

If you'd to have had a lot of prior trips in order to RE-achieve that, then so be it. As the saying goes: "The path of excess leads to the palace of wisdom."

Best heard in song form... Enigma. :) Lizard lounge music.

[jonny78]

can you think back if there was any urban legends or other stories floating around at the time?similar say,The Mothman,not saying this is what it was...
strange disappearances?...sightings...pity,you could'nt re-collect the clothing.
Could've been a street living/homeless Vietnam veteran as well...but I'm open to what a child sees...glad it triggered a memory...must have had some impact to trigger a lost memory....Lisa cat is on my shoulders licking my ear...tickles.:D

Hmm I was too young to remember unfortunately.

[thelyran]

Since I am NOT a Buddhist monk, what seems to work for me is a bit of weed and once or twice yearly a heavy munchie, like shrooms, peyote or aya. Hmmmaybe a littl' more depending on availability.


...I understand now,why the attraction to the Mayan type Mexican,than just the physical...it's the way of life and knowledge of recipes that would appeal..
besides that hot chilli love...smart man.

[siphon880di]

Chocolate or not, hispanics are hot anyways.

...I understand now,why the attraction to the Mayan type Mexican,than just the physical...it's the way of life and knowledge of recipes that would appeal..
besides that hot chilli love...smart man.

[thelyran]

Hmm I was too young to remember unfortunately.

...did you try google searching for mysteries in that area,from that time,shame,I was geared up and interested for a good yarn.I lived in (1972-1973)Fairfield,Sydney...when it was old farms and 1 acre block urban living,there was a creek at the end of the street.Across the road,there was only tall grass and paddocks.The car we drove in those days was a 1960 FB holden,that looks like a 1957 Chevy,but shorter,or squashed up...and I went down to this creek with my cousin,an older girl...We saw this thing standing 6 foot high,brown / black and bulky,in the creek bed.
She ran away horrified,because we both swore it was a hippopotamus...I still believed it was,till I turned 20,that was along time ago...Wombats are known to reach that size and stature...so I realised I was completely fooled.
...we had an Albino German Shephard then,that I rode like a horse,but dad's
friends were cops,and they took/bought her to fight crime,I'd say sniffer or something,Mandy was her name....we moved to Lord Howe Island after that...

[thelyran]

Chocolate or not, hispanics are hot anyways.

...very much so...and very nice...I would' travel south of the Border if I was a Yank,ummm sorry US citizen,can't stand the crotchless foul mouthed yank chicks...shit,I'd live in parts of Mexico over the whole US...Except for Maine...

[jonny78]

...did you try google searching for mysteries in that area,from that time,shame,I was geared up and interested for a good yarn.I lived in (1972-1973)Fairfield,Sydney...when it was old farms and 1 acre block urban living,there was a creek at the end of the street.Across the road,there was only tall grass and paddocks.The car we drove in those days was a 1960 FB holden,that looks like a 1957 Chevy,but shorter,or squashed up...and I went down to this creek with my cousin,an older girl...We saw this thing standing 6 foot high,brown / black and bulky,in the creek bed.
She ran away horrified,because we both swore it was a hippopotamus...I still believed it was,till I turned 20,that was along time ago...Wombats are known to reach that size and stature...so I realised I was completely fooled.
...we had an Albino German Shephard then,that I rode like a horse,but dad's
friends were cops,and they took/bought her to fight crime,I'd say sniffer or something,Mandy was her name....we moved to Lord Howe Island after that...

Well, I did a little digging and didn't come up with much for Martinsville and the surrounding counties. I did however discover that my old home town was only four hours away from Point Pleasant, West Virginia where they had sightings of Mothman who has been described as dark, or brown colored.

Also I came across this article as well:

The Oceana, West Virginia, Monster...

The following is not from a Twilight Zone episode, it is from a news report in The Independent Herald, in Pineville, West Virginia. A creature is lost in Oceana, West Virginia, in 1978.


The Oceana Creature
by Ron Mullens; Courtesy of the Independent Herald
Is a seven-foot humanoid monster with Olympic jumping ability and an unearthly cry stalking the night shrouded streets of Oceana? Patrolman Bill Pratt of the Oceana Police Department says the monster exists "and it isn't any (censored) bird, either!"
Pratt says he had his close encounter with the beast early Monday morning while on patrol near the Oceana Town Hall. Others who have heard the creature's call or who have caught fleeting glimpses of the unidentified varmint write it off as misdirected crane or heron which somehow mistook the town of Oceana for the marshlands of the Atlantic or Gulf Coast. But Pratt, questioned by town officials, citizens, Department of Natural Resources personnel, the news media and even monster chasers from Ohio and beyond, remains steadfast in his contention that what he saw near the Johnny Aliff residence early Monday morning was not a bird "and it wasn't like anything else I ever saw."

Oceana Town Recorder Vaughin Cozort says Pratt is a level-headed officer, not given to flights of fancy or exaggeration. "I think he really believes he saw what he says he did, and since I didn't see it, I can't very well say it isn't so." Cozort said of Pratt.

The officer's encounter with the whatever-it-is came before dawn Monday morning while he was on patrol.

"I radioed the jail and told them I'd be out of the car checking on some babies crying." Pratt explained, with a shudder and a "you can believe it or not, but I'm not lying"look in his eye. "I checked this trailer and the man said it was probably cats fighting. We couldn't find any evidence of a cat fight, so we started to check the neighborhood to find out where the weird sound was coming from. Then it let out a squall that scared me to death. I mean, the hairs on the back of my neck stood straight up. I've never heard anything like it"

The policeman, recounting the episode in the dark, foggy pre-dawn hours the day after the encounter, paused, took a deep breath and cast a nervous glance around before continuing. "I went on down toward Johnny Aliff's house and I saw what I thought was a man standing under a street light. I noticed that it was big, but he didn't move to hide from me and with that noise, it wasn't really usual for somebody to be out there. When I got closer, it kind of turned around with it's back to me. It was near the river bank and it crouched down."Pratt said. "Then it kind of leaped and I hollered at it. I thought it was somebody who'd been into something and was trying to get away form me, and it had jumped down over the bank to the edge of the river. But I shined my spotlight down and it wasn't there. It had jumped completely across the river. It had to have jumped, because I didn't hear any splashing and as close as I was, I would have heard if it had hit the water. I saw it moving up the bank on the other side, and I fired six shots at it. After that, I just don't remember. I was scared to death." The river at that point is 50 to 75 feet across, he said.

Oceana Police Chief Raymond Walker said he heard the shots and came to Pratt's location on the river bank to assist.

"When I got there, Bill was still trying to shoot but he'd emptied his gun at it. He was standing there pulling the trigger, and the gun was going 'click, click, click.' He was white as a sheet, and shaking." Walker said. He noticed movement in the brush, and fired three or four rounds, but he said he never got a good look at the thing.

Searchers gathered at the river at dawn and just before they crossed the river, the creature's blood-curdling cry was heard again. Pratt said it was more distant, and sounded as though it came from halfway up the mountain. The searchers checked the area where Pratt said the "thing" landed on the river bank and found broken branches, trampled weeds and what appeared to be heel prints next to an upturned rock. No blood, feathers or any other evidence was found, however.

"I hope I never see anything like it again." Pratt said. "I honestly don't know what it was, but it wasn't like anything I ever saw or heard of before. And that scream..." Pratt broke off, shuddering again.

Personnel from the state Department of Natural Resources investigated the area and spoke with witnesses Monday night but were unable to reach any conclusions. The operative theory at this point, according to a spokesman, is that it was a large wading bird, perhaps a crane or heron, possibly with wing damage which prevents it from extended flight.

Oceana Mayor John Roach said other residents have reported what appeared to be a crane in the area over the past two weeks, and joined the Department of Natural Resources in urging that the creature not be shot at. Pratt, meanwhile, remains unconvinced.

"It was dark colored, and it looked like a man. A bird has spindly legs and a crane would have a long neck. This didn't have either. It was like a man, only big, and it must have weighed 300 pounds. You can laugh at me and think I'm crazy if you want, but I saw it, and I don't want to see it again" the officer said.

Whether bird, beast, or prankster, the sightings have created a minor uproar in the community, but Chief Walker said to this point, the creature hasn't harmed anybody or made threatening moves.

"I don't think it could hurt you, because it's had the opportunity to attack and it hasn't. It's moved away, so I don't think anybody should fear for their safety," Walker said. "Maybe not," Pratt responded, "but if I see it again I'm sure not going to go up to it an try to start a conversation."

{Story Courtesy}
Independent Herald as published 16 Aug 1978, Volume 55 Number 33.

The town of Oceana is three hours from my old hometown.

[thelyran]

...Johnny78...thankyou for that very long typed post of the most interesting
information,delivered with a tone that lacks arrogance and attitude,but promotes humility and clear eyed observational skills...you are one of the nicest posters I have met on these forums and really welcome any input you have in future...funny how in earlier postings the Mothman was mentioned,but I was avoiding this until your last post...there is supposed to be similar accounts in England,but not well versed in the details....please think
back...do you remember its eyes,that would be the most remarkable feature...
did they glow,the colouring,piercing?...when you lay down to sleep,relax and let your mind wander,see if you're able to recall it with detail...not saying this method will work...but hoping.I really like you sir,and hope you stay with these forums for time to come....my kindest regards from Jason.

[thelyran]

Jonny78...not Johnny78...sorry sir.

[jonny78]

...Johnny78...thankyou for that very long typed post of the most interesting
information,delivered with a tone that lacks arrogance and attitude,but promotes humility and clear eyed observational skills...you are one of the nicest posters I have met on these forums and really welcome any input you have in future...funny how in earlier postings the Mothman was mentioned,but I was avoiding this until your last post...there is supposed to be similar accounts in England,but not well versed in the details....please think
back...do you remember its eyes,that would be the most remarkable feature...
did they glow,the colouring,piercing?...when you lay down to sleep,relax and let your mind wander,see if you're able to recall it with detail...not saying this method will work...but hoping.I really like you sir,and hope you stay with these forums for time to come....my kindest regards from Jason.

Thank you.

I don't remember a thing from that day unfortunately...except for the image of the window with the afternoon sun shining through.

It's amazing how it's just a complete blur to me, almost as if my mind blocked it out. Heh, in fact I had completely forgotten about it until I got involved in this thread.

I'll definitely dwell on it when I hit the sack tonight...

[thelyran]

Thank you.

I don't remember a thing from that day unfortunately...except for the image of the window with the afternoon sun shining through.

It's amazing how it's just a complete blur to me, almost as if my mind blocked it out. Heh, in fact I had completely forgotten about it until I got involved in this thread.

I'll definitely dwell on it when I hit the sack tonight...

...Thinking back,since you were young and innocent,do you believe it possible that your child-developed mind may have blocked it out?...as an adult if confronted with the same scenario,you'd be curious to fear ridden,some crazies might even try to befriend it.But as a child,this experience could be horrific.What triggered me is,that this thread made you able to recollect this lost memory...so I am fascinated and curious.Virginia is the state with the head CIA office to,only mentioning it,not playing dot-connecting.Now,it's Nascar,like you said...was it good growing up there,spending time in the woods and hills...I would've loved it...take care Jonny78...if you recall anymore of this account,feel welcome to contribute....regards Jason.

[hey_jude]

Children are definately very receptive to spirits in my opinion.

My youngest son, when a toddler wondered onto the landing overlooking the stairs and when I caught up with him he said... "it's okay Granddad said "you shouldn't run too near the stairs, they can be dangerous" and I thought what!"
My father has never been part of our life so he couldn't mean him and his fathers dad died 3 years before our son was born, so who is granddad?

I found a picture of his deceased granddad and showed it to him and he said "thats granddad and his foot is all better now"
when my sons father came in from work I told him what had gone on and he went white as a sheet.
He then said "I never told you my father had a club foot"

[jp13]

Where I grew up as a kid, we used to have this guy we called the Toffee Apple Man, he was real, we used to say he pee'd on the toffe apples, but I never remember anyone refusing them, our parents had to pay for the toffee apples.
e also had a collie next door that would round us up like sheep, nipping our legs if we tried to get away. It cracks me up when I think of it now, such innocent times, for me anyway.

[thelyran]

Children are definately very receptive to spirits in my opinion.

My youngest son, when a toddler wondered onto the landing overlooking the stairs and when I caught up with him he said... "it's okay Granddad said "you shouldn't run too near the stairs, they can be dangerous" and I thought what!"
My father has never been part of our life so he couldn't mean him and his fathers dad died 3 years before our son was born, so who is granddad?

I found a picture of his deceased granddad and showed it to him and he said "thats granddad and his foot is all better now"
when my sons father came in from work I told him what had gone on and he went white as a sheet.
He then said "I never told you my father had a club foot"

...whooaa!!!...great post,short but sweet.Without prying to much,is it possible for you to ask your son other questions about Grand-dad.The two have never met,but they have a connection,this is a revelatory post....
I'm really impressed.Gave me rushes.Don't get any background info...and if you do make enquiries,keep your mind blank,you want new information...
not your very talented son to pick your mind...yes,they are very psychic.
The only reason,I don't discuss my children,particulary one of them,is I am a targetted individual,and try to conceal from the dark-forces at work,what they're about...also,I'm not going to ruin this thread with past deeds...but
this is interesting Jude,great entry,and commend yourself as well,for having an open-mind,connecting the dots...and most of all,showing an interest in your children,showing them love.They would'nt have these abilities in a traumatised enviornment,so,it says alot about you to....thankyou for the time
to consider posting here,my kindest regards ...Jason.

[thelyran]

Where I grew up as a kid, we used to have this guy we called the Toffee Apple Man, he was real, we used to say he pee'd on the toffe apples, but I never remember anyone refusing them, our parents had to pay for the toffee apples.
e also had a collie next door that would round us up like sheep, nipping our legs if we tried to get away. It cracks me up when I think of it now, such innocent times, for me anyway.

...we had something similar.My parents split up in 1977,had to move to a flat,while they worked things out...but this old lady,seem to know the sadness
...and gave my brother and I lollies,sultanas and the occasional Toffee Apple,
cause Mum could'nt afford it.It helped to cope in a strange enviornment.
Then the Lebanese first moved here after the turmoil in Lebanon,I went to Belmore High for one year,they set up shop and businesses in the district and gave fresh hot Flat bread to the school kids on the way to school.You goto
taste their fried chicken,nothing like it on this earth...but it is nice the way the community did things for the kids and installed in them,a sense,they were
cared for,loved.Don't see any of that now days...alas...thankyou JP13...
very sweet...

[octopusrex]

Catch ME every time.

I´m becoming terrified of the little critters.

[loracat5]

Ok , if I don’t post this , it will never come to be understood in any way at all so I will put it out there and see what transpires. I love the lizards in Florida. They are so much fun to watch and sometimes, I talk to them. I held a sick one wile it died and felt that it new I was trying to make it comfortable. That’s how much I like them. Anyway, I think it was last summer. There was a lizard in my bedroom on the window seal . I talked to it and observed it for quite a wile. It acted like it was listening to me and didn’t seem to mind my presents. Well, I broke away from it and went on with my day. The next morning, it was Saturday or Sunday because I was sleeping in. I heard a small voice talking to me. It spoke a language that I had never heard before but it was sort of French sounding. The voice was speaking to me as if I should understand the words but all I thought was I don’t understand gecko. I may be crazy or could it be that the lizard was talking to me? It was my first thought that I did not speak gecko. It did not come from outside and it was not a yell but a normal tone and male.

My next thought was of the bible and speaking in tongues‘. I looked it up and found something about something being asked why are you speaking in tongues? Because the one being spoken to did not understand……..I still don’t know what to make of this but hey, stranger things have happened have they not?

The Gicko Gecko was an Australian and there is no connection. I already analyzed that….

[hey_jude]

...whooaa!!!...great post,short but sweet.Without prying to much,is it possible for you to ask your son other questions about Grand-dad.The two have never met,but they have a connection,this is a revelatory post....
I'm really impressed.Gave me rushes.Don't get any background info...and if you do make enquiries,keep your mind blank,you want new information...
not your very talented son to pick your mind...yes,they are very psychic.
The only reason,I don't discuss my children,particulary one of them,is I am a targetted individual,and try to conceal from the dark-forces at work,what they're about...also,I'm not going to ruin this thread with past deeds...but
this is interesting Jude,great entry,and commend yourself as well,for having an open-mind,connecting the dots...and most of all,showing an interest in your children,showing them love.They would'nt have these abilities in a traumatised enviornment,so,it says alot about you to....thankyou for the time
to consider posting here,my kindest regards ...Jason.

Hi Jason,
I do believe these gifted children would see a Reptilian if it were there, young uncluttered minds are pure and innocent. I've had strange and disturbing things happen to me as a young child and would love to do a regression therapy some time.
Unfortunately, my son didn't reveal anymore about his granddad but he later became terrified of a boy in the attic called Jack, a boy about 13 or so years old, he described him as a Vampire, blonde spikey hair and bright green eyes, who would come into his room and bite him quite often. My son was about 5-8 at that time, he was really brave he didn't come and tell me until the morning, but there were never any marks on him to show me he was in danger. He said "I know he wants me to be scared, and I am, but I don't let Jack know that". He hasn't seen Jack for years now.

I have a few stories like that if you'd care to hear them I'll pm them or put them on a different thread?

[jonny78]

...Thinking back,since you were young and innocent,do you believe it possible that your child-developed mind may have blocked it out?...as an adult if confronted with the same scenario,you'd be curious to fear ridden,some crazies might even try to befriend it.But as a child,this experience could be horrific.What triggered me is,that this thread made you able to recollect this lost memory...so I am fascinated and curious.Virginia is the state with the head CIA office to,only mentioning it,not playing dot-connecting.Now,it's Nascar,like you said...was it good growing up there,spending time in the woods and hills...I would've loved it...take care Jonny78...if you recall anymore of this account,feel welcome to contribute....regards Jason.

Oh most definitely I think my mind blocked it out. My parents certainly remember being freaked out that day. Was my imagination working in overdrive that day or did I actually see something? If I did, was it really some supernatural being or just a vagrant? I don't know. And strange, I vaguely remember making the comment when driving by the mountain..."that's where he lives." Why would I say that? Imagination? Or premonition?

For the record, I LOVE pondering this stuff!

And yes, Virginia has its share of strange activity. CIA has its headquarters here. Horay. Also, right here in my hometown of Ronaoke, there's supposedly an underground bunker for the president and/or his staff. Also worth mentioning is an urban legend known as the Seven Gates of Hell which is supposed to be a long, winding road with seven, large iron gates less than half a mile apart from each other. Legend has it, you cannot make through all seven gates-something just...happens to prevent it. Your car stops, dogs appear and chase you, etc. I knew one guy who went up there and the local police appeared out of nowhere and told him to get lost. A guy I used to work with said there's some kind of giant, Satanic symbol embedded in the rocks up there somewhere...a goat's head pentagram or something. A friend of mind from high school said he and some friends went up there, negated the road entirely, and came upon a building where robed figures were conducting some sort of ritual outside.

I can't verify any of these claims, but I can't help but remember the excerpt from Icke's the Biggest Secret where he talks about rituals performed out in Orange County California, where the Orange County Sheriff's Department help to cordon off that area. Could something be going on at the Seven Gates of Hell? Could it just be private property and the owner is sick of stupid kids prowling around looking for adventure?

Who knows?

[thelyran]

Oh most definitely I think my mind blocked it out. My parents certainly remember being freaked out that day. Was my imagination working in overdrive that day or did I actually see something? If I did, was it really some supernatural being or just a vagrant? I don't know. And strange, I vaguely remember making the comment when driving by the mountain..."that's where he lives." Why would I say that? Imagination? Or premonition?

For the record, I LOVE pondering this stuff!

And yes, Virginia has its share of strange activity. CIA has its headquarters here. Horay. Also, right here in my hometown of Ronaoke, there's supposedly an underground bunker for the president and/or his staff. Also worth mentioning is an urban legend known as the Seven Gates of Hell which is supposed to be a long, winding road with seven, large iron gates less than half a mile apart from each other. Legend has it, you cannot make through all seven gates-something just...happens to prevent it. Your car stops, dogs appear and chase you, etc. I knew one guy who went up there and the local police appeared out of nowhere and told him to get lost. A guy I used to work with said there's some kind of giant, Satanic symbol embedded in the rocks up there somewhere...a goat's head pentagram or something. A friend of mind from high school said he and some friends went up there, negated the road entirely, and came upon a building where robed figures were conducting some sort of ritual outside.

I can't verify any of these claims, but I can't help but remember the excerpt from Icke's the Biggest Secret where he talks about rituals performed out in Orange County California, where the Orange County Sheriff's Department help to cordon off that area. Could something be going on at the Seven Gates of Hell? Could it just be private property and the owner is sick of stupid kids prowling around looking for adventure?

Who knows?

...Johnny,you got the key here...your parents were freaked too.They knew about something from that time,if you ever get the chance,please ask them,carefully,at first.Now I am glad you did'nt wander off to far in the woods,Geez,a huge satanic symbol.I have been reading for years about how
the USA is riddled with underground caverns,this one book started it all....
and have mentioned it on several threads..."Extra Terrestrials Amongst Us"...
by George C Andrews,where he goes at length to describe,during the gold rush underground cities were found and ancient relics and statues,that defy
the scientific beliefs and christian views...were loaded onto barges to be dumped in the sea.I wonder if all this talk about Mt Shasta has the same symbolism as you mentioned here.

[thelyran]

Hi Jason,
I do believe these gifted children would see a Reptilian if it were there, young uncluttered minds are pure and innocent. I've had strange and disturbing things happen to me as a young child and would love to do a regression therapy some time.
Unfortunately, my son didn't reveal anymore about his granddad but he later became terrified of a boy in the attic called Jack, a boy about 13 or so years old, he described him as a Vampire, blonde spikey hair and bright green eyes, who would come into his room and bite him quite often. My son was about 5-8 at that time, he was really brave he didn't come and tell me until the morning, but there were never any marks on him to show me he was in danger. He said "I know he wants me to be scared, and I am, but I don't let Jack know that". He hasn't seen Jack for years now.

I have a few stories like that if you'd care to hear them I'll pm them or put them on a different thread?

...that's the problem when you're a good light-vessel of high vibration stuck at this density.The high point,you can see all and know all,cause you are still connected to the light source.The down side,is the dark pathers are equally attracted to you,which is a shame,because I always hoped that being of
the light would repel the darkness...no,it acts like a lantern for them...
Back in 1997,I was coming off heavy use of the drug Amphetamine,where my dopamine levels were screaming out for a fix,took the next five years to get normal.I used to sit in the chair,of then Metford house,while I was going to University,to become a psyche-nurse or industrial psychologist...sit in the chair and channel dark energies,pure hate.It's hard to come off,with no replacement.
I seen black sticky glob shapes coming out of the walls...then my son,who was 8months at the time,drew a picture of a crocodile man,wearing a distinctive leather jacket.This is kept in storage,right now 300kms away.
come later,years later,I bought,Infinite Love Is The Only Truth...and an Australian Psychologist,Barry Newton...offered a collection of drawings made by ritually abused children.I contacted him,and he concurred with me about the satanist groups operating in the area of East maitland...he did'nt want a copy of my sons drawing,...but was very supportive.Still got the emails here on the PC somewhere.
My son called this Reptilian Hakea...which I thought was a conjured name.However,I got a healing last year,where this healer combined energetic
Reiki and tarot.The cards are Australian flowers,the card he drew for me was Hakea...a desert flower.
"I know he wants me to be scared,but I won't tell him that"...your son is a talented clever little guy...like his tactics and humour alot.
Hey Jude,feel welcome to post anymore findings,memories here,I welcome it.I'm not a PM type guy,because it clutters up and don't want to mistakenly delete excellent post like yours.Also,I'm looking forward to corroborating evidence of a psychic nature,when others see the bravery and honesty of poster here...others might come forward with their recounts...thankyou very much,for your time,honesty and candour...regards Jason.

[thelyran]

Ok , if I don’t post this , it will never come to be understood in any way at all so I will put it out there and see what transpires. I love the lizards in Florida. They are so much fun to watch and sometimes, I talk to them. I held a sick one wile it died and felt that it new I was trying to make it comfortable. That’s how much I like them. Anyway, I think it was last summer. There was a lizard in my bedroom on the window seal . I talked to it and observed it for quite a wile. It acted like it was listening to me and didn’t seem to mind my presents. Well, I broke away from it and went on with my day. The next morning, it was Saturday or Sunday because I was sleeping in. I heard a small voice talking to me. It spoke a language that I had never heard before but it was sort of French sounding. The voice was speaking to me as if I should understand the words but all I thought was I don’t understand gecko. I may be crazy or could it be that the lizard was talking to me? It was my first thought that I did not speak gecko. It did not come from outside and it was not a yell but a normal tone and male.

My next thought was of the bible and speaking in tongues‘. I looked it up and found something about something being asked why are you speaking in tongues? Because the one being spoken to did not understand……..I still don’t know what to make of this but hey, stranger things have happened have they not?

The Gicko Gecko was an Australian and there is no connection. I already analyzed that….

...it expected you to understand it...hahahahaha.Cute.What I did like is you showed love and compassion to the lizard as its consciousness left its body.
You are a very caring person,should be commended for that.You may even change my attitude I have towards reptiles in general,I have a problem with it.The lizards would like Florida,steamy hot and humid...hang on...you got
swamps and marshes,I remember a plane caught fire and crashed there,they had to shoot alligators at the crash site to retrieve wreckage and data plus the victims.Won't catch me there...hahahahaha...but your alligators are tame believe it or not compared to the Aussie Crocodile,especially the salt water type...many a tourist and native have gone missing in the bottom of rivers
due to these.
I like what you did for the Lizard,you show compassion,and that's key to re-obtain the child like mind...thankyou and regards from Jason.

[kiwimaj]

...That was a masterpiece The Beatles White Album...it has moments where
it can take the mind to other places without the drugs...
What I try to promote is inner peace for free...to appreciate everything you have,try to avoid the murk.Appreciate animals,even though one is forced to eat them,respect all life forms...an example,a short time ago,a small
cricket was in the house,it's hot here in Australia,I have cats.The cricket was in the kitchen sink,I used a spoon to scoop it out,it jumps on the floor,eye to eye with Lisa,the said cat.I projected at the cricket,it's either trust in me...
or face Lisa...then my heart felt sadness for it,been lost,it turned on the spot
and was able to coax it to jump on my hand and take it outdoors...many say
animals and creatures lack the mind we do...this is not so.Animals and creatures have the same life-force coarsing through their minds and bodies as
we do...in fact,they're more in tune with the Earth Spirit than we,as they're able to relocate themselves before a natural disaster happens,where we have become disconnected,through manipulation and indoctrination.We perish.
Spend enough time and you will notice animals and creatures display love
...and in someways try to show us,if you're paying attention.
Yes,appreciate the Fluffy White Clouds...
When your children seemed tireless,walking through the forest,wanting to go on and on,is because they are tuning into the Earth Spirit,I get that too,like a thunderstorm,it charges you up with energy...I really appreciated your
post Astrochicken...one,you're a father...you made valid connections,even if you covered up your reservations with attitude,to avoid any mocking post to follow...what you got instead,was support.Thankyou for your time...
Regards Sir.

Thank you for starting this thread thelyran, fascinating, thought provoking and not very often I read something like you have written, written with such respect and love for nature :) Also, wonderful to see people these days actually have genuine love and respect for our younger generation and to truly understand them. To have children naturally attracted to you, want to stop and talk, really heart warming.

I loved, in particular, reading about how you showed such tenderness towards the cricket...I cannot abide any harm coming to any creature, I had an incident once where a very small fly fell into my cuppa and was struggling, so fished it out, blew on it to dry it and after a short while, off it went. It does your heart the world of good helping other life forms out, in this way. There was another incident where I was out with a few people and a couple of ants were on this bench (in a pub garden) and one of the party I was with took his pint glass and squashed them to death, without any reason or justification...I burst into tears our of pure horror...that someone could do that to innocent creatures, they were doing no one any harm. You should have seen the faces on the other people around me, they thought I had lost it somehow and couldn't understand my distress, to be honest, I was inconsolible, and in fact, a few of the others were on his side...It showed me one thing though, if this person could do this to innocent little creatures, what could he do to other life forms (human..)hmmmm..his true colours sure came out that day !! (and I have found this person over the past few years one of the very few people I felt a real distaste for, from a soul level.).

I loved this part.....

Animals and creatures have the same life-force coarsing through their minds and bodies as
we do...in fact,they're more in tune with the Earth Spirit than we,as they're able to relocate themselves before a natural disaster happens,where we have become disconnected,through manipulation and indoctrination.We perish.
Spend enough time and you will notice animals and creatures display love
...and in someways try to show us,if you're paying attention.

Thank you again, wonderful post...

;)

[lordreptoid]

I loved this part.....

Animals and creatures have the same life-force coarsing through their minds and bodies as
we do...in fact,they're more in tune with the Earth Spirit than we,as they're able to relocate themselves before a natural disaster happens,where we have become disconnected,through manipulation and indoctrination.We perish.
Spend enough time and you will notice animals and creatures display love
...and in someways try to show us,if you're paying attention.

Thank you again, wonderful post...

I concur. Some people are just like that as well, we call them psychics and spiritual healers or shaman. Perhaps they are worth listening to, especially on the topic of peaceful mutual co-existance.

[thelyran]

Thank you for starting this thread thelyran, fascinating, thought provoking and not very often I read something like you have written, written with such respect and love for nature :) Also, wonderful to see people these days actually have genuine love and respect for our younger generation and to truly understand them. To have children naturally attracted to you, want to stop and talk, really heart warming.

I loved, in particular, reading about how you showed such tenderness towards the cricket...I cannot abide any harm coming to any creature, I had an incident once where a very small fly fell into my cuppa and was struggling, so fished it out, blew on it to dry it and after a short while, off it went. It does your heart the world of good helping other life forms out, in this way. There was another incident where I was out with a few people and a couple of ants were on this bench (in a pub garden) and one of the party I was with took his pint glass and squashed them to death, without any reason or justification...I burst into tears our of pure horror...that someone could do that to innocent creatures, they were doing no one any harm. You should have seen the faces on the other people around me, they thought I had lost it somehow and couldn't understand my distress, to be honest, I was inconsolible, and in fact, a few of the others were on his side...It showed me one thing though, if this person could do this to innocent little creatures, what could he do to other life forms (human..)hmmmm..his true colours sure came out that day !! (and I have found this person over the past few years one of the very few people I felt a real distaste for, from a soul level.).

I loved this part.....

Animals and creatures have the same life-force coarsing through their minds and bodies as
we do...in fact,they're more in tune with the Earth Spirit than we,as they're able to relocate themselves before a natural disaster happens,where we have become disconnected,through manipulation and indoctrination.We perish.
Spend enough time and you will notice animals and creatures display love
...and in someways try to show us,if you're paying attention.

Thank you again, wonderful post...

;)

...Thankyou Kiwimaj,
It was cats and later on,children that taught me the real meaning of love.
My family was abusive and hostile to each other,my mother used to cop a few
hits from dad and he was a gaol warden.When I turned 17 and a few months,
I was doing my HSC,he took me at gun-point to become enlisted in the army reserves,for he was afraid I was too soft and lacked manly qualities.There
was a rumour going around town I was gay,had friends who were openly gay..
and being a small coastal town back then,1987,that was a no no...I also
wanted to be a nurse,or a flight steward...so I could travel the world,not realising,naivety and innocense,that these trades were primarily populated by gay men and women.
After a year in the reserves,I said the word F&*% for the first time,after
that time my mother copped another threat and hit...I exploded,had dad bent
over a stool about to gouge his eyes out...later that day,I had a gun to his head...he never hit mum again."Do you see what you made of him...the softest boy is now your psychopath"...my mother screamed at him...if it was'nt for Pudden,my old cat,I would've been an early suicide statistic.In fact
I got a letter from Mum while I was on recruit camp,she told me how Pudden was looking in the cup-board for me,everywhere around the house.I never been home away for so long ever,come parade that afternoon,I broke down,cried,sobbing,snot 12 inches coming out my nose,big whoops,trying to breathe...thinking about how homesick I was for Pudden.In front of women soldiers too...about 300 recruits,NCO's and officers."Get off my fucking parade
ground Private ........... you epilleptic canetoad...you make me sick,your tears are desecration to my parade"...it was hard to deal with,at the time.
But loving was'nt easy to come by,nor natural for me to experience.The first hint,that things were changing,I developed a bad drug habit at the age of 22 and gave up in 1997...I was with a friend who had his own landscaping business,his wife worked in a bank,I was waiting sitting on a seat,when a little girl tried to get my attention.I had my head in my hands,pain from withdrawal,cold turkey was the method used,this little girl reached out to touch my forehead,Johnno,my friend,said aloud "she knows who's the good man here"...Johnno always knew I was better than what I thought of myself..
He was a father before I,and it had a marked change in his life becoming one...to the positive.
This little girl,looked exactly like my daughter does today,dark coffee coloured...beautiful,physically and natured...I am a blessed man.I showed you a picture of my family and you can see we are so happy together...all
my childrens friends love coming over here,and they say to my partner and I that we are nice...I hear other parents destroying each other over money...
I can't deal with it and stay out of it.We have a yabby,a small water crayfish
in a tank,Chippy,he shows more love than alot of people I know.But it's not peoples fault,they're victims of media and government programming,they do not realise,what is really important in life.The previous Howard government is to blame to,inflating land and house prices so both parents have to work,sometimes multiple job roles...Being a parent and friend to your children is much more important...we rent our house and experience more freedom...
we own everything and not paying credit cards or loans...no stress.Must admit,I'm lucky though,...I got friends in PC's,carparts and other retailers where I get things for cost price...but importance is,raising children who are loving humans...despite the fear I have for their futures...and try not to project it onto them,they say"Daddy,you teach us the best stuff"...but I told
them the quote I used was a very funny man,named Bill Hicks,where he talks about life being a ride....we were discussing death.Thankyou very much for your supportive reply,I very much appreciate your time and effort Kiwimaj...
You made me feel better about myself too...

[rewind_bo]

Babies and children always gasp and smile at me and point shaking their finger at me while trying to get their mother's attention. The kids know who I am, it's adults that are blinded by their own silly fear. ;)

A similar thing happens with me. Wondered if anyone had any ideas of what it is.

Basically i can walk into a shop/mall basically anywhere with people and if there is a baby or really young child it will literally stop and just stare at me - following me with its eyes and head. They dont look scared just are fixed on me - no noise or anything. I told my partner about it and she sees it now when it happens.

By the way i dont look weird or would stand out in any way

[lightblessins]

can children see reptiods? u mean can children see highier dimensions more easily, no and yes, like us all, mind control is stuffed down the little 1s necks as soon as they are born by the time most of them hit 3yrs u can tell they have all had mind control, as we are iam.:)

[lordreptoid]

A similar thing happens with me. Wondered if anyone had any ideas of what it is.

Basically i can walk into a shop/mall basically anywhere with people and if there is a baby or really young child it will literally stop and just stare at me - following me with its eyes and head. They dont look scared just are fixed on me - no noise or anything. I told my partner about it and she sees it now when it happens.

By the way i dont look weird or would stand out in any way

If you want proof, telepath a message to them. Start with a mental greeting, watch for a reaction, then ask them to "raise your arms and laugh" (both better than just one) or "point to my face and smile" and you'd be surprised how many respond instantly and are SO HAPPY that you are talking to them on THEIR level for once. They love it! :) Try it for yourselves. And to be direct about this... YES they can see astral beings, cloaked ETs, angels, ghosts, etc... and... *drum roll* your living aura! Enjoy.

[rewind_bo]

do you think it is that they are trying to communicate with me? I am not thinking anything or even looking at them (until i see them staring) - is just like they find me really interesting (again im just your average guy)

[thelyran]

Oh most definitely I think my mind blocked it out. My parents certainly remember being freaked out that day. Was my imagination working in overdrive that day or did I actually see something? If I did, was it really some supernatural being or just a vagrant? I don't know. And strange, I vaguely remember making the comment when driving by the mountain..."that's where he lives." Why would I say that? Imagination? Or premonition?

For the record, I LOVE pondering this stuff!

And yes, Virginia has its share of strange activity. CIA has its headquarters here. Horay. Also, right here in my hometown of Ronaoke, there's supposedly an underground bunker for the president and/or his staff. Also worth mentioning is an urban legend known as the Seven Gates of Hell which is supposed to be a long, winding road with seven, large iron gates less than half a mile apart from each other. Legend has it, you cannot make through all seven gates-something just...happens to prevent it. Your car stops, dogs appear and chase you, etc. I knew one guy who went up there and the local police appeared out of nowhere and told him to get lost. A guy I used to work with said there's some kind of giant, Satanic symbol embedded in the rocks up there somewhere...a goat's head pentagram or something. A friend of mind from high school said he and some friends went up there, negated the road entirely, and came upon a building where robed figures were conducting some sort of ritual outside.

I can't verify any of these claims, but I can't help but remember the excerpt from Icke's the Biggest Secret where he talks about rituals performed out in Orange County California, where the Orange County Sheriff's Department help to cordon off that area. Could something be going on at the Seven Gates of Hell? Could it just be private property and the owner is sick of stupid kids prowling around looking for adventure?

Who knows?

...My partner took an interest in reading this thread and hopes like I do,that you do ask your parents about these occurances,if you got family trouble,like I do,I understand if you can't,but you sound like everything is cool.
S,my partner,has been communicating with ghost since she was a young girl,she's told me of many psychic activity too,funny enough,she is named after a witch...but here's what she said happened in 1982,she was 9 years old at the time.Her family,are the traditional Australians of old,Caravan,trailer
to you, holidays,spent out in the bush,fossicking for gold and precious metals..
a large family,strong christian up bringing,which she hated church,because it
made her feel guilty and rebellious,which is understandable,if you knew her mother.Father was an electrical Linesman,like I was,loved his guns,has an arsenal,including magnums and M-16s,all hidden and buried now,new laws you see.
Every Easter,they would go to Hill End,Turon river and fossick for gold,and have a swim there in the river...I'm kind of hesitant to talk about the Yowie,but since it's my partners story and I believe in her,like no other.The yowie,is an Australian equivalent to the bigfoot that you have,or the himalayan yeti...she was in the river,looking across the other side,there stood in the Autumn foliage,yellowy brown leaves,an eight to nine foot hairy humanoid beast,thick-set and totally covered in long thick hair...just watching the kids playing in the water...but only she noticed it.She does'nt get fear filled,I would've run for the car...but seemed mesmerised by the beast...she could'nt see the eyes to clearly,hidden by leaves and such,but S
is a very natural woman,no make-up ever,more into nature than flash cars and houses...but it was your post that made her think,I'm just happy people add their experiences,but you're hardly going to see anything in a concrete
jungle...regards Jason.

[kiwimaj]

...Thankyou Kiwimaj,
It was cats and later on,children that taught me the real meaning of love.
My family was abusive and hostile to each other,my mother used to cop a few
hits from dad and he was a gaol warden.When I turned 17 and a few months,
I was doing my HSC,he took me at gun-point to become enlisted in the army reserves,for he was afraid I was too soft and lacked manly qualities.There
was a rumour going around town I was gay,had friends who were openly gay..
and being a small coastal town back then,1987,that was a no no...I also
wanted to be a nurse,or a flight steward...so I could travel the world,not realising,naivety and innocense,that these trades were primarily populated by gay men and women.
After a year in the reserves,I said the word F&*% for the first time,after
that time my mother copped another threat and hit...I exploded,had dad bent
over a stool about to gouge his eyes out...later that day,I had a gun to his head...he never hit mum again."Do you see what you made of him...the softest boy is now your psychopath"...my mother screamed at him...if it was'nt for Pudden,my old cat,I would've been an early suicide statistic.In fact
I got a letter from Mum while I was on recruit camp,she told me how Pudden was looking in the cup-board for me,everywhere around the house.I never been home away for so long ever,come parade that afternoon,I broke down,cried,sobbing,snot 12 inches coming out my nose,big whoops,trying to breathe...thinking about how homesick I was for Pudden.In front of women soldiers too...about 300 recruits,NCO's and officers."Get off my fucking parade
ground Private ........... you epilleptic canetoad...you make me sick,your tears are desecration to my parade"...it was hard to deal with,at the time.
But loving was'nt easy to come by,nor natural for me to experience.The first hint,that things were changing,I developed a bad drug habit at the age of 22 and gave up in 1997...I was with a friend who had his own landscaping business,his wife worked in a bank,I was waiting sitting on a seat,when a little girl tried to get my attention.I had my head in my hands,pain from withdrawal,cold turkey was the method used,this little girl reached out to touch my forehead,Johnno,my friend,said aloud "she knows who's the good man here"...Johnno always knew I was better than what I thought of myself..
He was a father before I,and it had a marked change in his life becoming one...to the positive.
This little girl,looked exactly like my daughter does today,dark coffee coloured...beautiful,physically and natured...I am a blessed man.I showed you a picture of my family and you can see we are so happy together...all
my childrens friends love coming over here,and they say to my partner and I that we are nice...I hear other parents destroying each other over money...
I can't deal with it and stay out of it.We have a yabby,a small water crayfish
in a tank,Chippy,he shows more love than alot of people I know.But it's not peoples fault,they're victims of media and government programming,they do not realise,what is really important in life.The previous Howard government is to blame to,inflating land and house prices so both parents have to work,sometimes multiple job roles...Being a parent and friend to your children is much more important...we rent our house and experience more freedom...
we own everything and not paying credit cards or loans...no stress.Must admit,I'm lucky though,...I got friends in PC's,carparts and other retailers where I get things for cost price...but importance is,raising children who are loving humans...despite the fear I have for their futures...and try not to project it onto them,they say"Daddy,you teach us the best stuff"...but I told
them the quote I used was a very funny man,named Bill Hicks,where he talks about life being a ride....we were discussing death.Thankyou very much for your supportive reply,I very much appreciate your time and effort Kiwimaj...
You made me feel better about myself too...


Another wonderful post thelyran, I want to thank you for your open ness, and honesty in recalling your past experiences, I was mesmerised reading it. Your honesty and directness, can be very typical of your sign, you chose that well..;)

The warriors in this life, from my past life research/interests, have been warriers in many past ones. Those of us who have seemingly hard, difficult and tough upbringings, can lead to being extremely sensitive and an offshoot oof that, psychic ability coming out. There is a theory that the actual incident of abuse can bring out ones increased intuition. I so believe we choose our lives, parents and experiences, for reasons known only to us, that is why it is completely pointless judging others on their behaviour, as it is their choice to act this or that way. I know many, many people who have been sexually abused as youngsters, they seem to flock to me (birds of a feather..) and my message really is that it happened for a reason. If you believe, like I do, that you chose your life path then you cannot be a victim, of anything really...even the stuff that on the surface is extremely hard to accept. There is a fantastic book that goes into more detail about what I am saying...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1928806104/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link

..it says that we set up various circumstances in our life for our soul to grow..etc.

I have also known people that have been in the forces and other people in uniform. One particular person served in Iraq a few years back when the first invasion took place, in the early '90's. I felt I was there for him, albeit a short time, to help him some how and to ease his suffering..as with alot of people in our soul groups, they move on, some stay, it makes no odds though, we will all see each other again in the afterlife. Also, the worst thing in the world you can do is to try to stiffle anothers journey, the greatest gift you can give to them is to let me carry on their journey..

Your children indeed chose wisely in having you as their father. It wasn't until quite recently that I fully realised why I chose my parents and I also chose wisely, but when you are growing up you don't often see it, my father was the one who taught me to step outside of the box and to question, he was my greatest childhood educator, my mum showed me the other side of life, the mystical, magical and psychic. I was also fortunate that both my parents were good cooks and my interest in food started also, with them. If peope were truly honest with themselves they will (at some point) see how their parents are/were their best educators.


I was an extremely sensitive child and only in the past few years have I learnt some very valuable lessons...the main one being we are not victims, we have the power to direct our life the way we choose and we are the ones also that have the choice over how we choose to react to anything, anyone...wow, so empowering..

The souls (people) we come into contact with are all here to help us. Every person, situation, relationship is here to hold up our mirrors and the greatest gifts any friends can give you is a hard time...that way you get the exciting opportunity to look within and to see why that situation is so annoying etc..it is a key to a fantastic opportunity to give our souls growth spurts..How utterly boring if everything went smooth and incident free...that is not what life is about.

Thank you again for being so open and direct with your experiences, it shows you are a very proud man and realise that all your experiences have helped you become the person you are today. I again loved reading about your precious little furry angels, and how important that have and continue to be, in your life. All life on this planet is connected, not all of us realise this.

Blessings,

:)

[grachtengordel]

Children are definately very receptive to spirits in my opinion.

My youngest son, when a toddler wondered onto the landing overlooking the stairs and when I caught up with him he said... "it's okay Granddad said "you shouldn't run too near the stairs, they can be dangerous" and I thought what!"
My father has never been part of our life so he couldn't mean him and his fathers dad died 3 years before our son was born, so who is granddad?

I found a picture of his deceased granddad and showed it to him and he said "thats granddad and his foot is all better now"
when my sons father came in from work I told him what had gone on and he went white as a sheet.
He then said "I never told you my father had a club foot"

interesting. someone once told me how he was sitting at home when his wife called him urgently from upstairs, he found her standing outside the bedroom of their newborn child. the door was ajar, just a few inches and this guys wife told him to look into the room, through the gap. He saw his own dead mother standing over his child's cot, and she appeared to be observing her grandson. both parents could see the apparition and were slightly afraid but they pushed the door wide open and the figure was gone.

it makes sense that our ancestors are watching over us and have an interest in our survival/progress. many cultures honour and draw power from their ancestors. It also makes sense that our enemies and the enemies of our ancestors would wish to sabotage our progress. it also makes sense that IF we do re-incarnate, we only do so into our progeny (grandkids/greatgrandkids/etc) as these human children contain the CODE , our genetic CODE that fits like a KEY in a LOCK. thus it is a good idea to have many kids and ensure that they flourish, this is why the 'elite' (thieves) interbreed , to ensure that they are not born into a paupers body in a slum.

[thelyran]

Another wonderful post thelyran, I want to thank you for your open ness, and honesty in recalling your past experiences, I was mesmerised reading it. Your honesty and directness, can be very typical of your sign, you chose that well..;)

The warriors in this life, from my past life research/interests, have been warriers in many past ones. Those of us who have seemingly hard, difficult and tough upbringings, can lead to being extremely sensitive and an offshoot oof that, psychic ability coming out. There is a theory that the actual incident of abuse can bring out ones increased intuition. I so believe we choose our lives, parents and experiences, for reasons known only to us, that is why it is completely pointless judging others on their behaviour, as it is their choice to act this or that way. I know many, many people who have been sexually abused as youngsters, they seem to flock to me (birds of a feather..) and my message really is that it happened for a reason. If you believe, like I do, that you chose your life path then you cannot be a victim, of anything really...even the stuff that on the surface is extremely hard to accept. There is a fantastic book that goes into more detail about what I am saying...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1928806104/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link

..it says that we set up various circumstances in our life for our soul to grow..etc.

I have also known people that have been in the forces and other people in uniform. One particular person served in Iraq a few years back when the first invasion took place, in the early '90's. I felt I was there for him, albeit a short time, to help him some how and to ease his suffering..as with alot of people in our soul groups, they move on, some stay, it makes no odds though, we will all see each other again in the afterlife. Also, the worst thing in the world you can do is to try to stiffle anothers journey, the greatest gift you can give to them is to let me carry on their journey..

Your children indeed chose wisely in having you as their father. It wasn't until quite recently that I fully realised why I chose my parents and I also chose wisely, but when you are growing up you don't often see it, my father was the one who taught me to step outside of the box and to question, he was my greatest childhood educator, my mum showed me the other side of life, the mystical, magical and psychic. I was also fortunate that both my parents were good cooks and my interest in food started also, with them. If peope were truly honest with themselves they will (at some point) see how their parents are/were their best educators.


I was an extremely sensitive child and only in the past few years have I learnt some very valuable lessons...the main one being we are not victims, we have the power to direct our life the way we choose and we are the ones also that have the choice over how we choose to react to anything, anyone...wow, so empowering..

The souls (people) we come into contact with are all here to help us. Every person, situation, relationship is here to hold up our mirrors and the greatest gifts any friends can give you is a hard time...that way you get the exciting opportunity to look within and to see why that situation is so annoying etc..it is a key to a fantastic opportunity to give our souls growth spurts..How utterly boring if everything went smooth and incident free...that is not what life is about.

Thank you again for being so open and direct with your experiences, it shows you are a very proud man and realise that all your experiences have helped you become the person you are today. I again loved reading about your precious little furry angels, and how important that have and continue to be, in your life. All life on this planet is connected, not all of us realise this.

Blessings,

:)

Again Kiwimaj,
thankyou very much for your,support,warmth and your experience.To do the psychic arts,you are one lady,connected to the source and thanks to your mother...and probably your grandmother,whom I suspect was a medium of the old style,you have continued with this legacy.
I researched this link you gave,Spiritual Psychology,and,very impressed,even just reading the title.I despair that everyone seems to link spiritual discipline as "Newage Garbadge",they are so far from the truth.Shame
because this is the knowledge that can set us free.For me,an interested parent,recommends Night Games Chapter,page 67 Procreation-Concieving Light as the most important and responsible except from the book.When I first
endured this psychic attack,I was reading Psychic Self Defence by Dione
Fortune,an ex-member of The Golden dawn.
She wrote a small piece on conception and the reason to raise the vibration during sex and orgasm of both partners was to invite a higher caste soul down as child,which stuck in my mind more than anything that book offered.This will be an incredible read and have you to thank for.I'm a little tired and worn at the moment,having an off day,but will get back to you tomorrow to elaborate on the rest of your post...thankyou again,for your audience,charm and love Kiwimaj...love Jason.

[kiwimaj]

Again Kiwimaj,
thankyou very much for your,support,warmth and your experience.To do the psychic arts,you are one lady,connected to the source and thanks to your mother...and probably your grandmother,whom I suspect was a medium of the old style,you have continued with this legacy.
I researched this link you gave,Spiritual Psychology,and,very impressed,even just reading the title.I despair that everyone seems to link spiritual discipline as "Newage Garbadge",they are so far from the truth.Shame
because this is the knowledge that can set us free.For me,an interested parent,recommends Night Games Chapter,page 67 Procreation-Concieving Light as the most important and responsible except from the book.When I first
endured this psychic attack,I was reading Psychic Self Defence by Dione
Fortune,an ex-member of The Golden dawn.
She wrote a small piece on conception and the reason to raise the vibration during sex and orgasm of both partners was to invite a higher caste soul down as child,which stuck in my mind more than anything that book offered.This will be an incredible read and have you to thank for.I'm a little tired and worn at the moment,having an off day,but will get back to you tomorrow to elaborate on the rest of your post...thankyou again,for your audience,charm and love Kiwimaj...love Jason.

Thank you Jason, another lovely post and thank you also for your kind words, I do appreciate it very much. :)

Interesting you should comment about my Grandmother, she is the one soul that passed that would always come through whenever I went to other mediums or would come through on mediums that were on the platform (on stage). I would go regularly to the College of Psychic Studies' open day and sit in on the psychic artist's class. I think it was 4 years in a row that my Gran would come though the artist (I have the drawings that she kindly gave me). It was the most amazing thing, each year I would go and each year wondering if she would come through and sure enough, every time, the first person the artist would sense..would be her. When was alive she didn't come across as very interested in the arts, she was a very very down to earth, forthright saggie and told it how she saw it, in her own very honest fashion..But I do believe it was her mother or even her grandmother that had mediumship abilities. My Mum continues to offer her guidance, help and wisdom from the other side of the veil. It's amazing, but if ever I need any help with anything, from how to add something a little extra to a recipe or if I have lost something, a thought always seems to appear that I know did not come from me, more proof that when our loved ones pass over, they are never gone from our lives. I do believe my life has come along leaps and bounds since her passing and with her help from the other side.

I am glad you liked the book, it is one of the best I have read and clicked with me on so many levels. Interesting what you say about the sex, vibration and incarnated souls..a very interesting observation indeed.

Look forward to more of your ellaboration ! :)

Blessings and hugs.

:)

[thelyran]

Thank you Jason, another lovely post and thank you also for your kind words, I do appreciate it very much. :)

Interesting you should comment about my Grandmother, she is the one soul that passed that would always come through whenever I went to other mediums or would come through on mediums that were on the platform (on stage). I would go regularly to the College of Psychic Studies' open day and sit in on the psychic artist's class. I think it was 4 years in a row that my Gran would come though the artist (I have the drawings that she kindly gave me). It was the most amazing thing, each year I would go and each year wondering if she would come through and sure enough, every time, the first person the artist would sense..would be her. When was alive she didn't come across as very interested in the arts, she was a very very down to earth, forthright saggie and told it how she saw it, in her own very honest fashion..But I do believe it was her mother or even her grandmother that had mediumship abilities. My Mum continues to offer her guidance, help and wisdom from the other side of the veil. It's amazing, but if ever I need any help with anything, from how to add something a little extra to a recipe or if I have lost something, a thought always seems to appear that I know did not come from me, more proof that when our loved ones pass over, they are never gone from our lives. I do believe my life has come along leaps and bounds since her passing and with her help from the other side.

I am glad you liked the book, it is one of the best I have read and clicked with me on so many levels. Interesting what you say about the sex, vibration and incarnated souls..a very interesting observation indeed.

Look forward to more of your ellaboration ! :)

Blessings and hugs.

:)


...I will Kiwimaj...but I promise to do this in the morning...I was just involved with a nasty encounter on the Rant Room,even had a thread attacking me as an agent with an agenda...replying to you requires me at my best vibration,and I'm afraid to say,very battle ridden

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53709

check this thread,I try to make humans feel special,make them realise,they're so capable of much beauty...some call this xenophobia...I call it realising your potential....give me 10 hours sleep,and promise to post what you deserve,
honesty and beauty,because that's what you are about...your friend,love Jason.

[kiwimaj]

...I will Kiwimaj...but I promise to do this in the morning...I was just involved with a nasty encounter on the Rant Room,even had a thread attacking me as an agent with an agenda...replying to you requires me at my best vibration,and I'm afraid to say,very battle ridden

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53709

check this thread,I try to make humans feel special,make them realise,they're so capable of much beauty...some call this xenophobia...I call it realising your potential....give me 10 hours sleep,and promise to post what you deserve,
honesty and beauty,because that's what you are about...your friend,love Jason.


Hi Jason

I was meant to post this, further to what you were saying, scroll down you will see what I posted a few days back.. ..I think you will understand what I am on about..:)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53059&page=11

Oh yes, I did see mr reptoid starting a thread but before I could comment, it was deleted. To be honest I was extremely surprised, the way it was put re. you, is definately not what you are about ! Yes, humans are capable of so much more then that which is currently portrayed...everywhere !! As a society we are stuck in a myr of worldwide slime, the powers that be want it that way and will do anything to keep it that way. They do not want humans to fully discover their TRUE potential, that is not on the "agenda".

I came onto this forum to be around like minded souls and others that share similar views and a place that is calm, caring but also exciting, exciting to find out so much and be educated. I have found incredible happiness since becoming a member on here and it is the last place I would want to come to to feel awful negativity. Thank you for helping to make the forum the place it truly should be.

Hugs and higher love, from your friend also..

:)

[thelyran]

Hi Jason

I was meant to post this, further to what you were saying, scroll down you will see what I posted a few days back.. ..I think you will understand what I am on about..:)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53059&page=11

Oh yes, I did see mr reptoid starting a thread but before I could comment, it was deleted. To be honest I was extremely surprised, the way it was put re. you, is definately not what you are about ! Yes, humans are capable of so much more then that which is currently portrayed...everywhere !! As a society we are stuck in a myr of worldwide slime, the powers that be want it that way and will do anything to keep it that way. They do not want humans to fully discover their TRUE potential, that is not on the "agenda".

I came onto this forum to be around like minded souls and others that share similar views and a place that is calm, caring but also exciting, exciting to find out so much and be educated. I have found incredible happiness since becoming a member on here and it is the last place I would want to come to to feel awful negativity. Thank you for helping to make the forum the place it truly should be.

Hugs and higher love, from your friend also..

:)



Hi Kiwimaj,
I just read your post on that thread,but many might not understand,for sadly
very few actually have love in their lives.I can't reveal who,but I spoken to many people here,many suffer lonliness and mild to severe depression.You wish something could be done,but only they can make the differences.
This Lordreptoid character,is a dangerous and perverted individual,exactly against all that you speak of in that link you supply.Through the detective
skills of a friend here,they unearthed LR's real name,identity,trouble with the police,he made the local Vancouver papers,for being refused a job as a chueffer,due to his involvement in BDSM and sex-slave handling.Probably
called into question also was involvement in witchcraft,spell-casting, and
other pagan practices used to empower himself at the expense of others.In fact,a user here,was his sex-slave...I now know why he attacked me so often
due to the awareness I try to make others realise...I see it so clearly now.I forgot the other side of light-work,you attract the very forces that are opposite to you...
Saying this and knowing that you practice your own work,have you ever,Kiwimaj,encountered dark forces in your work?...I would not be surprised at all,for many other healers and psychics have said the same thing to me,I even witnessed it once...love and light to you...Jason.

[kiwimaj]

Hi Kiwimaj,
I just read your post on that thread,but many might not understand,for sadly
very few actually have love in their lives.I can't reveal who,but I spoken to many people here,many suffer lonliness and mild to severe depression.You wish something could be done,but only they can make the differences.
This Lordreptoid character,is a dangerous and perverted individual,exactly against all that you speak of in that link you supply.Through the detective
skills of a friend here,they unearthed LR's real name,identity,trouble with the police,he made the local Vancouver papers,for being refused a job as a chueffer,due to his involvement in BDSM and sex-slave handling.Probably
called into question also was involvement in witchcraft,spell-casting, and
other pagan practices used to empower himself at the expense of others.In fact,a user here,was his sex-slave...I now know why he attacked me so often
due to the awareness I try to make others realise...I see it so clearly now.I forgot the other side of light-work,you attract the very forces that are opposite to you...
Saying this and knowing that you practice your own work,have you ever,Kiwimaj,encountered dark forces in your work?...I would not be surprised at all,for many other healers and psychics have said the same thing to me,I even witnessed it once...love and light to you...Jason.


I have in the past had encounters with very dark forces, but not from my work directly, but just past associations and so called "friends" that turned out to be everything but, to the point where some very nasty things happened..but..that was many years ago and am happy to say that in the more recent past and present, things are alot calmer.

When I first studied mediumship I couldn't handle it, I was way too young (17) and found myself in a dreadful state. There is a case of people attracting the darker side, through their work, especially tarot etc..but again, I have been fortunate. Maybe it is because always make sure I am protected and ask for angelic help when doing my work and asking for help to impart knowledge for the other person's higher good. When I do the readings etc..I do it because I genuinely want to help people, I am no way in it for the money, in fact I find it extremely difficult to ask for money, but found some were taking advantage of my goodwill and I got really annoyed, not with them, but with myself, for not being stronger...Do you think maybe those that attract the darker side when doing work, are not truly genuine with the reasons behind why they are "helping" people?..Just a thought..

Gosh !! All that info on mr reptoid..again, as this is an open forum and anyone can become a member, all sorts will be attracted. Also, when you have strong opinions (like myself..:D..) you will always get people who are in dissagreement and some people take it to the extremes. In another thread I was called a 'narrow minded bigot'..oh well, I know I am not, so it didn't bother me in the slightest.

Yes, there are a few lonely and depressed people here, I can fully understand, I too, like you and others, have had times of utter despair, loneliness and depression. I love offering my thoughts and advice on how to help, from a health angle, and alot of peoples "illnesses" can be put down to something lacking in their diet and also seretonin levels has alot of answers..I take zeolite, which balances out your serotonin, and since I started taking it my health and mental health, has improved remarkably, to the point now where I very very rarely get angry, loose my temper, get sad or agitated etc..fantastic stuff, you feel like you are in a lovely meditative state, calm, peacefull and well...happy !

Keep you your good work Jason !

;)

[kiwimaj]

Jason, did you get your avatar from..."cats that look like hitler"??

The funniest site I have seen in ages...wonderful...hehe

:D

[marpat]

...not just being a father but have been very fortunate to speak with children
on their open hearted level.They come to me,when I walk down the street,go
out of their way,at times to wave and say hello.Very touching moments.
Children who are allowed to develope their own capacities without dominant
parents super-imposing their fears and retrenched emotional blockages,upon
the child,never loose that second sight.
Once you show interest,any child opens up and tells you all of their observations and personal points of view.To me,they are the most psychic sections of society.Now you know why I urge readers for years to find the inner-child within themselves to enhance awareness,happiness and general well-being.You'll find,that all of the vices,that you have only entertain for a short duration...that there is a little temple of God within.This is true happiness...if you dwell on all things cruel,that happened to you,It'll be a long time coming.
Back in 2002,at the height of the psychic attacks endured,I was fortunate
to speak with children in the five to seven year brackets.Many opened up to me...and the children offered,me the insight,that they keep seeing the crocodile man.This is in Maitland NSW.Many did'nt react with fear,but said he is a bad man,or a smelly man...One even described the colours of clouds
around peoples bodies,auras to us,and that some had strange attatchments...
like white/grey skulls...or strings that went to other places that they could'nt see.
I quizzed another forum member here,who is positive to neutral towards
reptiles,to ask his children if he could see the crocodile man...he froze,...
and after a long pause,said I don't have to,because I see them...he was amazed that I knew.The only problem I have with this user,is that he drinks to much and post here under the influence...which to my knowledge,experience and belief...invites the lower vibratory caste into your sphere or space of influence.

Has anyone else had these experiences...or taken notice of what seems extraordinary at the time...a childs honest observation...?
fascinating.


I have a young daughter who I do not try to psychically repress. If she ever told me she saw something I would not tell her that she imagined it. That said she has never claimed to have seen a reptoid though.

[thelyran]

Jason, did you get your avatar from..."cats that look like hitler"??

The funniest site I have seen in ages...wonderful...hehe

:D


hahahaha...no a user here put this on the threads as a pisstake,I just had to adopt it and give it a new home :D

[thelyran]

I have a young daughter who I do not try to psychically repress. If she ever told me she saw something I would not tell her that she imagined it. That said she has never claimed to have seen a reptoid though.

Well,that's good marpat,but if she does in future,please feel free to make your account here,I would really appreciate any input,from anybody,who realises the potentials in children.As you can see by other post,it's not all just reptiles...even pretty floating orbs or pictures there of,as I noticed alot around children...and not the ones where people mistake orbs for floating pollen...hahahahaha,thankyou for your input sir,regards Jason.

[morphal]

In another thread I was called a 'narrow minded bigot'..oh well, I know I am not, so it didn't bother me in the slightest.

Yes, there are a few lonely and depressed people here, I can fully understand, I too, like you and others, have had times of utter despair, loneliness and depression. I love offering my thoughts and advice on how to help, from a health angle, and alot of peoples "illnesses" can be put down to something lacking in their diet and also seretonin levels has alot of answers..I take zeolite, which balances out your serotonin, and since I started taking it my health and mental health, has improved remarkably, to the point now where I very very rarely get angry, loose my temper, get sad or agitated etc..fantastic stuff, you feel like you are in a lovely meditative state, calm, peacefull and well...happy !


;)

Right on - your attitude towards being insulted is that of a totally mentally healthy person, knowing yourself and confident in yourself, that is the way to not let insults hurt you or get defensive, or go on the attack! You can tell a lot about a person by the way they reply to perceived slurs! If you're healthy, it just doesn't bother you when some stranger on the internet makes an erroneous assumption! That's my opinion.

The only way an insult gets to me is: if I know the person, if I respect the person, and if the person knows me. If the person I know but don't entirely respect makes a derogatory comment... well I may hurt a little but really it reflects more on them than me and I lose a little respect. But if a person I respect makes an observation, I welcome it and take it to heart.

Interesting, I haven't heard of zeolite and I'm pretty into natural health... can you tell me a bit more? thanks too you reminded me I forgot to take my vitamins before bed - niacin mega dose and 5-htp. Niacin is supposed to be helpful for arthritis and though I'm only 33... well, it does help. And it also is a mood elevator. 5-htp - a natural amino acid (I think) that converts to seratonin. Also good for depression.

[kiwimaj]

Right on - your attitude towards being insulted is that of a totally mentally healthy person, knowing yourself and confident in yourself, that is the way to not let insults hurt you or get defensive, or go on the attack! You can tell a lot about a person by the way they reply to perceived slurs! If you're healthy, it just doesn't bother you when some stranger on the internet makes an erroneous assumption! That's my opinion.

The only way an insult gets to me is: if I know the person, if I respect the person, and if the person knows me. If the person I know but don't entirely respect makes a derogatory comment... well I may hurt a little but really it reflects more on them than me and I lose a little respect. But if a person I respect makes an observation, I welcome it and take it to heart.

Interesting, I haven't heard of zeolite and I'm pretty into natural health... can you tell me a bit more? thanks too you reminded me I forgot to take my vitamins before bed - niacin mega dose and 5-htp. Niacin is supposed to be helpful for arthritis and though I'm only 33... well, it does help. And it also is a mood elevator. 5-htp - a natural amino acid (I think) that converts to seratonin. Also good for depression.

Thank you morphal, for your kind words. I have also done alot of "work" on myself. Eckhart Tolle and various other authors really helped, the best though was Byron Katie and the "work"..if anyone is suffering from any form of self esteem issues etc...she is one of the best out there for help with sortin out yer mind...Also, if something bothers you, it's your stuff, if it doesn't, it's theirs. Mirrors etc. We are the passenger in our own, tailor made journey called life, so it's up to us if we feel we have any issues that need sorting, it's down to us to sort them.

I use this company (link below) for zeolite, and it also gives you lots of info ...I would highly recommend this product to anyone suffering from any form of depression or general ill health. A few years ago I was really suffering with ill health but through learning more about diet and such AND taking zeolite, my health has transformed far beyond I could have imagined. It is also excellent for kidney and liver problems so would also highly recommend this to those who have liver and kidney probs due to excess alcohol consumption, etc.

http://www.liquid-zeolite.co.uk/

:)

[marpat]

Well,that's good marpat,but if she does in future,please feel free to make your account here,I would really appreciate any input,from anybody,who realises the potentials in children.As you can see by other post,it's not all just reptiles...even pretty floating orbs or pictures there of,as I noticed alot around children...and not the ones where people mistake orbs for floating pollen...hahahahaha,thankyou for your input sir,regards Jason.

She did freak my wife out by saying a lady had been in her room crying.

[thelyran]

She did freak my wife out by saying a lady had been in her room crying.


...did you notice your daughter did'nt freak?...see,being closely connected to the source,is the truth,where adults that re-awaken,often have episodes of
temporary freak-out,well,I did.Children have that uncanny ability to remain grounded and objective with such encounters...where some people who dabble in occultism,without the discipline,end up as psyche-ward patients.
That's what I mean about unlearning what one thinks they know.Be clear and
balanced.Your daughter did good.Any family history,particulary on your wife's
behalf,that made her react that way...I think a contributer here,JP13
mentioned something about a child accounting for his grand-dad's club foot...
when they never met...interesting and thankyou for contributing Marpat...

[samtak]

This is partly a bump in response to a response to my 1st thread, and also the conclusion to that post.

First though, to thelyrian: What I saw when I was young in no way resembled a crocodillian. It's head was too small.

The second experience I had with an other-wordly something-or-other was in March or April of 2002, in Waterloo Ontario.

Again, I was in bed, experiencing this ability to see through my own eyelids. This time it was morning, I was alone, and I lived in a basement suit. My room had a window at grade level that was set into what's called a "window well". I hope you can picture this, because it's hard to explain otherwise.

I was lying on my back, watching the curtains billow in the breeze, which should have been impossible, given that the window was surrounded by a 24" high dirt wall (the wall of the window well, that is). Anyway, the curtains were moving as if a rather stiff breeze was somehow coming through the window. I remember thinking this was odd, and then noticing the sillhouette of someone's legs walking past the window-well. My first thought was tat it was my roomate Steve planning on scaring me by jumping into the well, or banging on the window or something. I don't remember seeing anything step into the space right outside of the window, but I do recall noticing the silhouette of something sort of crouching outside the window.
Then, a long fingered, translucent gold hand reached through the window. It had 4 fingers, each having 4 knuckles (other than the thumb, which had three) and no visible fingernails. This would have been the creatures right hand.
In it's hand was a test-tube, larger than one you would find in a chemistry set, or any I used in high school chem class. It was thicker, to hold more liquid than whatever a regular test-tube holds. Inside was an amber liquid, not darker, but richer than the shade of the creatures skin. Floating in the liquid were 4 opaque golden spheres. They actually shone in the light coming through the window... I'm reluctant to say that this thing might have itself been emanating a light, but it seems that way when I see it in my head now. I understood it to be handing this phial to me, so I sat up in bed in order to be able to reach its hand. I used my right hand reach for the phial. Rather than the fear I felt when I was 7 and saw that other thing, I was extremely curious, and happy to see this new entity. I wanted to see this one's face, and from sitting I could make out the vague shape of it's head through the curtains. The curtains, no longer moving, were separated by his arm. I could just see through the crack, and staring into the light coming through the window, and the strange glow from the thing itself, I could only get a hint of facial features. my first thought, when the experience was over, was this thing looked wise, but the only feature I could describe would be its nose, which was long and bulbous, not unlike that of a proboscis monkey.

I drank the liquid in the phial. The 4 golden spheres were slightly narrower than the diameter of the tube, and I consumed them easily. I cannot remember a flavour or texture to the liquid, or the spheres. I handed the phial back to the creature, it withdrew it's hand, and I regained control of my body still sitting in bed, my left arm behind me to support my weight, and my right arm stretched towards the window. I remember feeling fantastic that morning, one of a kind - the light seemed brighter, and I was in the best mood all day.

I have had definable night terrors before and since this occurence, and this was a completely different feeling. I didn't feel helpless, and I did decide conciously to drink whatever was in the vial. Also, night terrors, and other nocturnal mental-states don't involve curiosity. Dreams, even lucid dreams and night terrors are entirely contained withing your mind. I can tell you I have been surprised by lucid dreams or night terrors, but once they've started, I've never been curious about what was going to happen next, because ultimately I could control what I was seeing, doing or experiencing. This wise-looking, translucent, apparently benign creature acted of it's own accord outside of my control, and I would not have acted as I did (accepting this whatever from a glowing alien at my bedroom window) had I not been curious.

[biblegirl]

great thread :)

[thelyran]

This is partly a bump in response to a response to my 1st thread, and also the conclusion to that post.

First though, to thelyrian: What I saw when I was young in no way resembled a crocodillian. It's head was too small.

The second experience I had with an other-wordly something-or-other was in March or April of 2002, in Waterloo Ontario.

Again, I was in bed, experiencing this ability to see through my own eyelids. This time it was morning, I was alone, and I lived in a basement suit. My room had a window at grade level that was set into what's called a "window well". I hope you can picture this, because it's hard to explain otherwise.

I was lying on my back, watching the curtains billow in the breeze, which should have been impossible, given that the window was surrounded by a 24" high dirt wall (the wall of the window well, that is). Anyway, the curtains were moving as if a rather stiff breeze was somehow coming through the window. I remember thinking this was odd, and then noticing the sillhouette of someone's legs walking past the window-well. My first thought was tat it was my roomate Steve planning on scaring me by jumping into the well, or banging on the window or something. I don't remember seeing anything step into the space right outside of the window, but I do recall noticing the silhouette of something sort of crouching outside the window.
Then, a long fingered, translucent gold hand reached through the window. It had 4 fingers, each having 4 knuckles (other than the thumb, which had three) and no visible fingernails. This would have been the creatures right hand.
In it's hand was a test-tube, larger than one you would find in a chemistry set, or any I used in high school chem class. It was thicker, to hold more liquid than whatever a regular test-tube holds. Inside was an amber liquid, not darker, but richer than the shade of the creatures skin. Floating in the liquid were 4 opaque golden spheres. They actually shone in the light coming through the window... I'm reluctant to say that this thing might have itself been emanating a light, but it seems that way when I see it in my head now. I understood it to be handing this phial to me, so I sat up in bed in order to be able to reach its hand. I used my right hand reach for the phial. Rather than the fear I felt when I was 7 and saw that other thing, I was extremely curious, and happy to see this new entity. I wanted to see this one's face, and from sitting I could make out the vague shape of it's head through the curtains. The curtains, no longer moving, were separated by his arm. I could just see through the crack, and staring into the light coming through the window, and the strange glow from the thing itself, I could only get a hint of facial features. my first thought, when the experience was over, was this thing looked wise, but the only feature I could describe would be its nose, which was long and bulbous, not unlike that of a proboscis monkey.

I drank the liquid in the phial. The 4 golden spheres were slightly narrower than the diameter of the tube, and I consumed them easily. I cannot remember a flavour or texture to the liquid, or the spheres. I handed the phial back to the creature, it withdrew it's hand, and I regained control of my body still sitting in bed, my left arm behind me to support my weight, and my right arm stretched towards the window. I remember feeling fantastic that morning, one of a kind - the light seemed brighter, and I was in the best mood all day.

I have had definable night terrors before and since this occurence, and this was a completely different feeling. I didn't feel helpless, and I did decide conciously to drink whatever was in the vial. Also, night terrors, and other nocturnal mental-states don't involve curiosity. Dreams, even lucid dreams and night terrors are entirely contained withing your mind. I can tell you I have been surprised by lucid dreams or night terrors, but once they've started, I've never been curious about what was going to happen next, because ultimately I could control what I was seeing, doing or experiencing. This wise-looking, translucent, apparently benign creature acted of it's own accord outside of my control, and I would not have acted as I did (accepting this whatever from a glowing alien at my bedroom window) had I not been curious.


Samtak,
That was an uplifting vibrant experience.Love your writing style to,a good writer is able to paint a picture in the readers mind...which you did so successfully with the description of the basement.Those four globes in a
testube,seen it before,but five of them...explain soon.That was no alien,but
some ascended being,the gold colour and the choice given to you was the
clues that stuck out...lucky guy.
When younger to my mid-twenties,always had revealing dreams,about what was coming up next,I even dreamt the satanist,to the way they look to this day and that they were coming,even though I did everything to avoid it.
I dreamt about greys in 1983,one year before Whitley Striber released communion...and was involved in a light fight with them,I was a defender with
a shield,while others created offence.
But the most loved,of all,is this brunette that's followed me around since
child-hood,mid teens...and most significantly,mid twenties.Even though,I can't
understand it,because I was a drug addict back then,just drying off.

I was standing,with her,slightly ahead of me,to the right,on a red planet,
either dead or embryonic,it displayed no life yet.Pitch black sky...I thought
it was Mars.Her head was tilted towards the sky and followed the angle to
see that there was five golden orbs floating in the sky...I looked at her,with
the most Golden Love,I ever felt for anything and anyone...this idea,popped
into my head,we were to co-create a new life form...disaster,I got horny,well
to my mind,that's the only way I knew how to do it.Of course,I have learn't better to this day.I never told anyone,except S my partner.She knows and
understands,I'm for somebody else...not mean't to hurt,just other-worldly.
I still have never seen this Brunettes face,but know her name now,it begins with H.
From 2000 until the present day,I have been oppressed and attacked by
occultist,three sub-humans,one reptile.Plus others who join in the fray at times,in fact,just had a week or so rest from these forums,one I had a smoke
two,I got attacked...hahahahaha.I see psychic energetic healers,she pulled
aside,"you know those dreams you have been having,it isn't Mars,it's Orion"
I nearly fell over !...how could she see,my second most hidden secret?
...I went home after healing,happy,a mystery seem solved.The psychic even introduced me to her..."Jason's in love with a fairy!"...she pretended to taunt me,because she knew I was happy now.This is mid 2007,just before I joined here.I've hinted at it,but you made me brave enough,to come out of my closet.
I sat at the window,when i got home,playing cool music,The Fall,(songs
I'm a Mummy and some other poppy releases)...she loves it,and I could see her,dancing on my heart-chakra,spinning around,in a green dress,bare-footed
...while I play the most unusual pop music...I'm rapped with her,crazy about her.The pyschic said,you must be mean't for something,but she could'nt see
...she said a great Gold Dragon protects you,(that'll upset all that think I hate
Reptiles,no matter what they are)...hahahaha,well,at least I get that impression.Even the psychic was sad I hated them...to tell you the truth,I'm
starting to see,that I have been protcted by the good reptiles,alot longer than care to think.
...want to be the first to welcome you here Sam.I admire bravery and honesty
both actions you performed in both post.When you meet some negative derogatory aspects,ignore their post,if they give you a hard time.It's only a tactic,devised to get you angry,and possibley banned,depending how you react.But I know you say the truth,have experienced a few aspects you write about,and like your demeanor.You take care Sam,thankyou for your contribution.This thread,is mean''t to be a safe haven for those,who wish to relate their experiences,as a child,through dreams and the occassional reptile
...but all are welcome,thankyou,we will speak again.You put your time and
heart to respond to this thread...that I respect,alot.Regards from Jason...

[thelyran]

great thread :)


...Thankyou Biblegirl,I remember you.You helped post those orb photos that I sent you once,I never forget someone who does good by me.Honoured to have you visit.I use to recognise you with an Egyptian avatar,with the word Kapow...your user group.You are pretty,if you don't mind a compliment.Take
care and feel free,to enter a childhood experience when you are ready...take care,Jason.

[samtak]

So the question then, Lyran (Jason) is why me? Those are not the only two unexplanable, or rather, difficult to comprehend, experiences I've had in my life. This is outside of the original intent of the thread, but I've also held dimestore rosarys in my hand and watched the links in their chains turn to gold one at a time. And beyond that, everywhere I go, every person I meet, is drastically changed by knowing me. I am not special beyond than anyone else on this planet, I do not feel egotistical about these things that have happened... but I'm so damned curious to know why. I've pursued philosphy, psychology, spiritualism, psychedelics, all in an attempt to figure out what I'm supposed to do with all of this whatever it is... I wonder at the blood that runs in my veins. I am, for all the fully initiated "conspiracy" nuts, entirely of Scottish decent - 1st generation Canadian in fact.

Related to your story of H. the brunette on Orion - from ages 3 through 6 I had an "invisible friend" named Mary. I described her to my mother as having brown hair and being very pretty. This entity was so powerful, I once tried to get out of the car mum was driving because "Mary was calling me", as I explained to my mother as she slammed on the breaks and pulled over.
This entity followed me, or my siblings, throughout our young lives, even appearing once to my mother, though she dismissed it as a dream.

It's all very exciting seeing and hearing some of these things - but I feel like I"m wasting something, like I should be able to do something more directed with what I know, or what I've seen - or maybe will see.

[flare]

Could people posting on this thread put spaces between paragraphs, I'm finding it very hard to read. tks

[thelyran]

So the question then, Lyran (Jason) is why me? Those are not the only two unexplanable, or rather, difficult to comprehend, experiences I've had in my life. This is outside of the original intent of the thread, but I've also held dimestore rosarys in my hand and watched the links in their chains turn to gold one at a time. And beyond that, everywhere I go, every person I meet, is drastically changed by knowing me. I am not special beyond than anyone else on this planet, I do not feel egotistical about these things that have happened... but I'm so damned curious to know why. I've pursued philosphy, psychology, spiritualism, psychedelics, all in an attempt to figure out what I'm supposed to do with all of this whatever it is... I wonder at the blood that runs in my veins. I am, for all the fully initiated "conspiracy" nuts, entirely of Scottish decent - 1st generation Canadian in fact.

Related to your story of H. the brunette on Orion - from ages 3 through 6 I had an "invisible friend" named Mary. I described her to my mother as having brown hair and being very pretty. This entity was so powerful, I once tried to get out of the car mum was driving because "Mary was calling me", as I explained to my mother as she slammed on the breaks and pulled over.
This entity followed me, or my siblings, throughout our young lives, even appearing once to my mother, though she dismissed it as a dream.

It's all very exciting seeing and hearing some of these things - but I feel like I"m wasting something, like I should be able to do something more directed with what I know, or what I've seen - or maybe will see.

No,Sam,you're not being egotistical nor special.You are becoming or are a
lightworker.This is not to fill your head with ideas.You fit the pattern of every psychic that I ever spoke to.They all went through strange visitations,bizarre
phenomenon and generally at the time,unexplainable occurances.Please,don't
be troubled,it happens.If you are walking around,opening up other people to
higher aspects of their own being,you are indeed a lightworker,may even practice this life or the next.You've inspired me to write about Leigh,my first
healer...you may at times attract the dark forces too...depending how much you want to work against all they have accomplished...hahahahaa....just don't get caught like I did.

With H,I had a dream where she was going to leave me,I was 15 at the time...mid 80s,I lived on the waterfront in Buff Point then,I spent the early hours of the morning looking for her,begging her to stay,think,I misinterpretted
the message.

....Yes,it is all very exciting,what you must learn,not to push it,it will come,in
its correct time and place.I know it's frustrating hearing this,as it might not be the first time...but that's how it works.You've become part of a wider community,in regards to the psychic realms,you're a goodie and really look forward to any other accounts you put here.It is not out of context of the thread...something about your nature has led to this,would not be surprised
if this began earlier in your childhood as well.I'm coming out with everything
now,as I sense some kind of change coming,big.What I only hinted at,will become known.You take care Sam,I spotted you very early,that's why I communicated...and understand.Regards Jason.

[sk8erboi]

Great thread! Reading through everyone's accounts of children's experiences, or people's own childhood experiences makes me feel really peaceful, content, and makes the air a bit magical.

[zanarkandz]

Great thread, it's really a shame that nowadays having a child-like mind is confused with imaturity and a negative trait

[mrindigo]

What a great thread. These stories and expereinces remind me of my own. It's nice seeing a form of confirmation that there are others out there who have had their own experiences.
I'd like to share a few of many experiences I had when I was young (still am in a way).

In the mid 1980s I lived in an apartment complex in a small town in rural Massachusetts. I did what any typical young boy does, play with toys, watch my favorite televison shows, hang out with friends, cause a little harmless trouble for excitement, etc. One day I was headed out to the front of the apartment to meet my friends in this little dirt construction pit we had set up with Tonka trucks, when I saw a man and a women exiting the building across the street. He was yelling quite profusely and had this undulating black mist around him. (I wouldn't even call it an Aura, because they don't look like that all.) The woman whom he was yelling at was nearly crying, judging by the way her voice quivered. She had the same black mist pouring out of her head between her eyes, entering the black mist. The man seemed almost energized by this, as well as the mist growing and moving more rapidly. I didn't really know what to do, so I just froze there overwhelmed with a feeling of dread, something to this day I haven't felt since. After a few seconds of watching this, the man noticed me watching and rudely grunted, "What are you lookin' at, kid?". Just then I thought I caught a brief glympse of a white elongated skull in the black mist. I don't remember any fine details to it because it was brief. I bolted into the house, shut the door, ran to my room and hid under my bed.


In that same apartment I often felt like I was being watched. As well as having that feeling, I'd catch irregular shadows behind me from time to time, only to turn around and see nothing each time. Yeah it scared me a bit, but I didn't ever really freak out over it because I didn't feel threatened. One night during the Summer, I was at the table in my blue overalls, GI Joe shirt, eating Mac & Cheese after a long day of playing in the neighborhood. My parents were in the kitchen flirting like young couples do, and my two younger sisters were in another room watching television, as they had already eaten. I got that same feeling of being watched, only this time something was there to my right in the window... There stood an almost prehistoric little man with gray/blue bumpy skin, a long thin nose, wild hair, pointed ears, and sunken beady golden eyes (like the color of a house cat's eyes). I screamed and knocked my food on the floor in fright, expecting it to be my friends from the neighborhood with a new mask, I ran out the back door to try and catch them. To my suprise there wasn't a soul out there, not even a cricket chirping or a bird sining as the sun sank in the sky. I looked around the side of the bulding and again, nothing. This actually freaked me out more the inital encounter, because there was always someone outside doing something. I ran inside, only to be greeted/scolded by waiting parents who made me clean up my mess, and set me to bed for bad behavior.

It's now 2009, several years have passed, and it's as if these memories happened yesterday. While, I can't say that these weren't purely childhood imagination, as I did and still do have a good imagination. I will say that the fact that I remember them so vividly at least accounts for something. I look forward to reading more of these, as they're very interesting, take care everyone.

[thelyran]

Great thread! Reading through everyone's accounts of children's experiences, or people's own childhood experiences makes me feel really peaceful, content, and makes the air a bit magical.

...Sk8erboi,thankyou,you experienced exactly what I was hoping readers will
find, "The air a bit magical"...that's what happens when you tap into your inner-child.Nothing is taken for granted.

...Another thing,I would like readers to discuss,is their special place,in mind or place they went to as a child...

[thelyran]

Great thread, it's really a shame that nowadays having a child-like mind is confused with imaturity and a negative trait

Hahahahaha:D...they'll accept violence and rape in movies and society,as
entertainment or a way of life...but,no one can not express,their inner most
feelings about peace,or the beautiful thoughts that can come from mind and heart combined.:)...no,that upsets the black frequencies that imprisoned the
planet.Porn another enslaver,if you don't view the opposite sex as some kind of meat-market,there MUST be something wrong with you,off to the psyche-ward,give you some pills,that within months,make you suicidal,that's better,you fit in again.
Zanarkandz,if you can combine,the heart and mind of a child,with the age and experiences you have already,this not only,gives you maturity,but a
second sight,will develope,what form,that manifest in,will be inline,with your hearts desires.Some see auras,some hear thoughts,some can heal...

...If you readers,like this thread,want it to stay around,give it a star rating
or ask a moderator,very nicely,why you think this thread,should be a sticky.
This thread,is not about the Reptiles,it's about...YOU,becoming aware...
seeing above them,and letting go of all control features,for those that can achieve a shift,instantly,...in seconds,lucky you.For me,it's been a very long road.Some seem fast-tracked to spirituality,few that is,I kind of followed the creek.Don't think,I have cleared myself of all fear...I have'nt,but try.
Thankyou Zana,regards Jason.

[thelyran]

What a great thread. These stories and expereinces remind me of my own. It's nice seeing a form of confirmation that there are others out there who have had their own experiences.
I'd like to share a few of many experiences I had when I was young (still am in a way).

In the mid 1980s I lived in an apartment complex in a small town in rural Massachusetts. I did what any typical young boy does, play with toys, watch my favorite televison shows, hang out with friends, cause a little harmless trouble for excitement, etc. One day I was headed out to the front of the apartment to meet my friends in this little dirt construction pit we had set up with Tonka trucks, when I saw a man and a women exiting the building across the street. He was yelling quite profusely and had this undulating black mist around him. (I wouldn't even call it an Aura, because they don't look like that all.) The woman whom he was yelling at was nearly crying, judging by the way her voice quivered. She had the same black mist pouring out of her head between her eyes, entering the black mist. The man seemed almost energized by this, as well as the mist growing and moving more rapidly. I didn't really know what to do, so I just froze there overwhelmed with a feeling of dread, something to this day I haven't felt since. After a few seconds of watching this, the man noticed me watching and rudely grunted, "What are you lookin' at, kid?". Just then I thought I caught a brief glympse of a white elongated skull in the black mist. I don't remember any fine details to it because it was brief. I bolted into the house, shut the door, ran to my room and hid under my bed.


In that same apartment I often felt like I was being watched. As well as having that feeling, I'd catch irregular shadows behind me from time to time, only to turn around and see nothing each time. Yeah it scared me a bit, but I didn't ever really freak out over it because I didn't feel threatened. One night during the Summer, I was at the table in my blue overalls, GI Joe shirt, eating Mac & Cheese after a long day of playing in the neighborhood. My parents were in the kitchen flirting like young couples do, and my two younger sisters were in another room watching television, as they had already eaten. I got that same feeling of being watched, only this time something was there to my right in the window... There stood an almost prehistoric little man with gray/blue bumpy skin, a long thin nose, wild hair, pointed ears, and sunken beady golden eyes (like the color of a house cat's eyes). I screamed and knocked my food on the floor in fright, expecting it to be my friends from the neighborhood with a new mask, I ran out the back door to try and catch them. To my suprise there wasn't a soul out there, not even a cricket chirping or a bird sining as the sun sank in the sky. I looked around the side of the bulding and again, nothing. This actually freaked me out more the inital encounter, because there was always someone outside doing something. I ran inside, only to be greeted/scolded by waiting parents who made me clean up my mess, and set me to bed for bad behavior.

It's now 2009, several years have passed, and it's as if these memories happened yesterday. While, I can't say that these weren't purely childhood imagination, as I did and still do have a good imagination. I will say that the fact that I remember them so vividly at least accounts for something. I look forward to reading more of these, as they're very interesting, take care everyone.

Thankyou Mr Indigo, for contributing with one of your own experiences...
...Although,it hurt a little to invision the poor lady being psychically vampirized
...that is exactly what you saw.As a child,you could see the colourful clouds
around people,as a majority,were they,red/orange and yellow?...I like the greenies up,bit wary of others,as you can get pinched,especially shopping,if
one is not grounded,best to go late night.The same thing happens,as with that poor woman,but at a less concentrated scale.

...Now,I'm going to be brave here,because I have been holding out on this 2012 stuff.What you saw,is not a Reptile,but another visitor being all together
it's Earth Plane as well...just a few dimensions higher.They used to exist at this level,but left...when we came along...see,I believe we are slave stock,from another part of the universe,bought here by the scaley ones...we had no form,just DNA replicants,on file or vial...Others,who were pursuing the
Reptiles,were fooled by them,destroyed a couple of planets in this Solar System,thinking,they destroyed the remnants,returned to their original war.
Hence my user name the-lyran...that's where we come from...ever since,the Reptiles are playing GOD games for entertainment.Similar,to the PC
Game,Sid Meier's Civilization series...

...I have a sweet little visitor too.She drove me crazy,all my life,because I could'nt figure it out...I thought she was my long lost love from previous incarnations.But,no,apparently,so one psychic told me,get ready Fairies and
Goblins exist,so do trolls,not just the keyboard type,it's not their fault,we can
not see into their world,but they certainly visit ours....it took ages to figure it out,but Jacques Vallee,Anatomny Of A Phenomenon,does indeed,support yours and other accounts written here.Oh,if they ask you to come dance,consider passing on the experience,you might come back 500 years later....They exist outside of Linear time and space...weird,I know,but why make garden gnomes,immortalising them from folklore,all mysteries,legends,myths have a kernal of truth,if not complete truth,just the conditioning processes of the modern world,have programmed us not to be
intuitive.Not to long ago,how many Grandmothers were allowing themselves to be mediums...not so,today.

...Getting back to it,with the approach of this Armada,the existing life-forms on this planet,ascended...I still have questions about this,because if you had the ability to ascend,why come here at all...but I'm not fairy folk,and can not begin to understand their purpose,if one,loves/likes me...what did I do to deserve attention...I asked Samtak that too...we both can;t answer it.I'll
admit,I'm just in the dark as everyone else,hated all those tales as a kid,believed in Angels,still do,cause there is an opposite force for everything,I
have met true demons to,attacked and fed on for years,I was once their favourite Lollypop,but pretty foul eating over the last couple of years.2012
the most mystrious aspect,I was hoping for simple awareness for all,secrets revealed and hopefully,learn to live for each other...It could also be an Orwellian nightmare...with psychic weapons of old,rebuilt...cell-splitters...
black-hole converters,who knows...but the theories are nothing new...their
moving to using Kirlian cameras for security purposes,now.With that particle accelerator in Europe,very curious to see the applications out of that...

...But could there be a dimension shift,for us?...there's just over three years to find out...or hahahaha,disappointment...if that happens,no body will believe in anything again...regards Jason.:)

[mrindigo]

Thankyou Mr Indigo, for contributing with one of your own experiences...
...Although,it hurt a little to invision the poor lady being psychically vampirized
...that is exactly what you saw.As a child,you could see the colourful clouds
around people,as a majority,were they,red/orange and yellow?...I like the greenies up,bit wary of others,as you can get pinched,especially shopping,if
one is not grounded,best to go late night.The same thing happens,as with that poor woman,but at a less concentrated scale.

...Now,I'm going to be brave here,because I have been holding out on this 2012 stuff.What you saw,is not a Reptile,but another visitor being all together
it's Earth Plane as well...just a few dimensions higher.They used to exist at this level,but left...when we came along...see,I believe we are slave stock,from another part of the universe,bought here by the scaley ones...we had no form,just DNA replicants,on file or vial...Others,who were pursuing the
Reptiles,were fooled by them,destroyed a couple of planets in this Solar System,thinking,they destroyed the remnants,returned to their original war.
Hence my user name the-lyran...that's where we come from...ever since,the Reptiles are playing GOD games for entertainment.Similar,to the PC
Game,Sid Meier's Civilization series...

...I have a sweet little visitor too.She drove me crazy,all my life,because I could'nt figure it out...I thought she was my long lost love from previous incarnations.But,no,apparently,so one psychic told me,get ready Fairies and
Goblins exist,so do trolls,not just the keyboard type,it's not their fault,we can
not see into their world,but they certainly visit ours....it took ages to figure it out,but Jacques Vallee,Anatomny Of A Phenomenon,does indeed,support yours and other accounts written here.Oh,if they ask you to come dance,consider passing on the experience,you might come back 500 years later....They exist outside of Linear time and space...weird,I know,but why make garden gnomes,immortalising them from folklore,all mysteries,legends,myths have a kernal of truth,if not complete truth,just the conditioning processes of the modern world,have programmed us not to be
intuitive.Not to long ago,how many Grandmothers were allowing themselves to be mediums...not so,today.

...Getting back to it,with the approach of this Armada,the existing life-forms on this planet,ascended...I still have questions about this,because if you had the ability to ascend,why come here at all...but I'm not fairy folk,and can not begin to understand their purpose,if one,loves/likes me...what did I do to deserve attention...I asked Samtak that too...we both can;t answer it.I'll
admit,I'm just in the dark as everyone else,hated all those tales as a kid,believed in Angels,still do,cause there is an opposite force for everything,I
have met true demons to,attacked and fed on for years,I was once their favourite Lollypop,but pretty foul eating over the last couple of years.2012
the most mystrious aspect,I was hoping for simple awareness for all,secrets revealed and hopefully,learn to live for each other...It could also be an Orwellian nightmare...with psychic weapons of old,rebuilt...cell-splitters...
black-hole converters,who knows...but the theories are nothing new...their
moving to using Kirlian cameras for security purposes,now.With that particle accelerator in Europe,very curious to see the applications out of that...

...But could there be a dimension shift,for us?...there's just over three years to find out...or hahahaha,disappointment...if that happens,no body will believe in anything again...regards Jason.:)



Thank you very much for the reply. So what that man was doing may have been a psychic attack? I've heard of psychic vampires before, but for some reason I don't think what was going on was related to that. It seemed Darker if that makes any sense.
In terms of Auras, yes I saw plenty of that (still do, but not quite as easily as I used to). Most of what I saw back then was red, brown, gray, and whites. Yellow, Orange, purples, and shades of blue were rare. Lately I've seen more purple, blues, yellows, and oranges than before, but there's still a lot of white and gray. I tend to avoid the gray and brown ones, can't tell you why, but they make me feel uneasy. Reds, I just brush off and let them live in their little illusion of self importance. Once in a while I'll cross someone who's spouting colors all over the place like a laser light show. They usually end out being interesting people, good sense of humor, worldly, but a bit tactless and arrogant at times.



Initially I thought what I've been seeing (yes I still do once in a while) might have been fairy-folk, but wasn't entirely sure. What I thought could have been a fairy could have been some reptilian hybrid for all I know. It's nice to know I wasn't mistaken. It's possible that they did go off into a higher plane of existence when we arrived here. I've always been of the mentality that humans don't naturally fit here at all. We're just too strange when compared to the other creatures. There's also the fact that modern Science has still failed to produce an evolutionary missing link. Through some of my own research, it's starting to look as if what you and others think may indeed be true. Still, I don't think it's a bad thing. Something happened when humanity was created along the way, something that wasn't intended. If that weren't the case, then the evil reptilians wouldn't have to hide as they do... Clearly they're afraid of any sort of full frontal confrontation. I don't think all of them are bad, though a majority are.


I have to say...when I read the part in which you mentioned dancing, the hair on the back of my neck stood up, haha. I've been dreaming for some time of walking through the forests here and having these little nymphs, glowing balls of light, and tiny hairy blue men (like what I saw) following me, and giggling and whispering. When I stop walking they scramble and hide. Each time I reach a clearing and meet this bigger one who talks to me psychically. It invites me to dance in the moonlight, but I humbly decline each time. It then takes out this curious silver dagger wrapped in what looks like reptile skin, and then cuts this blue glowing loaf of bread in several slices. It then hands me the bread, I eat it, and then I wake up. The weirdest part is I'm aware I'm dreaming and can alter things in my dream state.


"Getting back to it,with the approach of this Armada,the existing life-forms on this planet,ascended...I still have questions about this,because if you had the ability to ascend,why come here at all...but I'm not fairy folk,and can not begin to understand their purpose,if one,loves/likes me...what did I do to deserve attention"

In regards to the above: Maybe certain levels of reality and dimension are still physically tied to this one? You know, sort of like a kite being anchored to the roll of string held by the person flying it. While they may experience different things in that dimension, I wonder if what happens to the physical world also effects their version, since this one could potentially be the point of origin and anchor. It may not be far fetched to say that destroying the earth, destroys several levels of existence in the same physical space, essentially severing the strings to their dimension. If that's the case then it could be why fairies are choosing to interact with certain humans. Then again, that could be completely wrong and what happens here has no effect in other realities/dimensions. Still, it's something I wonder.


"I'll
admit,I'm just in the dark as everyone else,hated all those tales as a kid,believed in Angels,still do,cause there is an opposite force for everything,I
have met true demons to,attacked and fed on for years,I was once their favourite Lollypop,but pretty foul eating over the last couple of years."


I used to have this reoccurring nightmare in which an undead woman would lure me into a rundown house filled with corpses and rot. Each time I would wake up before she could get me, that is until I decided to make a stand one night while dreaming.
I was aware that I was dreaming and reassured myself that I was in the realm of my mind, and in there I create the laws, not her. She came after me and called me by name, though she typically hid herself in a disgusting smelling brown cloud. I had a brief moment where I got scared and went to leave. The door slammed shut and locked at that point, and there was no way out near me, but I knew if I could get to the basement, I could find some way out. Just as I thought that the house groaned and creaked and she spoke, telling me that it wouldn't help me and laughed. I hide behind a pile of bones and watched her float by. I ran down a long dark hallway that seemed to grow darker and mustier. I got into the basement which was an old crypt converted into a rundown wine cellar. I accidentally knocked over a pile of old metal buckets and froze. Nothing happened for a few seconds so I kept walking and noticed a single light by a brick wall, near an archway that lead to a bulked. Just as I got into the light she came through the wall at me, laughing. I stood my ground and started glowing an indigo color. She gasped and got this fearful expression. I punched her (no Im not one for abuse to women, but she was undead and out to kill me, haha) in the face, splitting open her right eye. She screamed and wailed as this green glowing ooze leaked out like blood, and went back into the wall. I ran for the bulked which surprisingly flew open, seemingly on its own. A blinding warm golden light shinned in as an arm wearing white armor reached for me. I took the hand and was pulled out and woke up.

To this day I believe that dream was about Demons and angles, and I haven't been scared of the idea of demons since. It's also made the idea of reptilian overlords not so scary to me as well. If they really need to spend all that time doing that for self gratification and other selfish needs, then they're not worth being scared of, as they're cowardly wimps, still they are of interest to me since I like learning things, conventional or otherwise. :)



"could there be a dimension shift,for us?...there's just over three years to find out...or hahahaha,disappointment...if that happens,no body will believe in anything again"

haha, you could be right. Even if nothing happens at all, I wouldn't see it as a bad thing. I'll continue to try and tread lightly through life, and experience and enjoy it's fine points as best I can regardless of what does or doesn't happen. Again, thank you for the reply, great thread. :D

[thelyran]

Thank you very much for the reply. So what that man was doing may have been a psychic attack? I've heard of psychic vampires before, but for some reason I don't think what was going on was related to that. It seemed Darker if that makes any sense.
In terms of Auras, yes I saw plenty of that (still do, but not quite as easily as I used to). Most of what I saw back then was red, brown, gray, and whites. Yellow, Orange, purples, and shades of blue were rare. Lately I've seen more purple, blues, yellows, and oranges than before, but there's still a lot of white and gray. I tend to avoid the gray and brown ones, can't tell you why, but they make me feel uneasy. Reds, I just brush off and let them live in their little illusion of self importance. Once in a while I'll cross someone who's spouting colors all over the place like a laser light show. They usually end out being interesting people, good sense of humor, worldly, but a bit tactless and arrogant at times.



Initially I thought what I've been seeing (yes I still do once in a while) might have been fairy-folk, but wasn't entirely sure. What I thought could have been a fairy could have been some reptilian hybrid for all I know. It's nice to know I wasn't mistaken. It's possible that they did go off into a higher plane of existence when we arrived here. I've always been of the mentality that humans don't naturally fit here at all. We're just too strange when compared to the other creatures. There's also the fact that modern Science has still failed to produce an evolutionary missing link. Through some of my own research, it's starting to look as if what you and others think may indeed be true. Still, I don't think it's a bad thing. Something happened when humanity was created along the way, something that wasn't intended. If that weren't the case, then the evil reptilians wouldn't have to hide as they do... Clearly they're afraid of any sort of full frontal confrontation. I don't think all of them are bad, though a majority are.


I have to say...when I read the part in which you mentioned dancing, the hair on the back of my neck stood up, haha. I've been dreaming for some time of walking through the forests here and having these little nymphs, glowing balls of light, and tiny hairy blue men (like what I saw) following me, and giggling and whispering. When I stop walking they scramble and hide. Each time I reach a clearing and meet this bigger one who talks to me psychically. It invites me to dance in the moonlight, but I humbly decline each time. It then takes out this curious silver dagger wrapped in what looks like reptile skin, and then cuts this blue glowing loaf of bread in several slices. It then hands me the bread, I eat it, and then I wake up. The weirdest part is I'm aware I'm dreaming and can alter things in my dream state.


"Getting back to it,with the approach of this Armada,the existing life-forms on this planet,ascended...I still have questions about this,because if you had the ability to ascend,why come here at all...but I'm not fairy folk,and can not begin to understand their purpose,if one,loves/likes me...what did I do to deserve attention"

In regards to the above: Maybe certain levels of reality and dimension are still physically tied to this one? You know, sort of like a kite being anchored to the roll of string held by the person flying it. While they may experience different things in that dimension, I wonder if what happens to the physical world also effects their version, since this one could potentially be the point of origin and anchor. It may not be far fetched to say that destroying the earth, destroys several levels of existence in the same physical space, essentially severing the strings to their dimension. If that's the case then it could be why fairies are choosing to interact with certain humans. Then again, that could be completely wrong and what happens here has no effect in other realities/dimensions. Still, it's something I wonder.


"I'll
admit,I'm just in the dark as everyone else,hated all those tales as a kid,believed in Angels,still do,cause there is an opposite force for everything,I
have met true demons to,attacked and fed on for years,I was once their favourite Lollypop,but pretty foul eating over the last couple of years."


I used to have this reoccurring nightmare in which an undead woman would lure me into a rundown house filled with corpses and rot. Each time I would wake up before she could get me, that is until I decided to make a stand one night while dreaming.
I was aware that I was dreaming and reassured myself that I was in the realm of my mind, and in there I create the laws, not her. She came after me and called me by name, though she typically hid herself in a disgusting smelling brown cloud. I had a brief moment where I got scared and went to leave. The door slammed shut and locked at that point, and there was no way out near me, but I knew if I could get to the basement, I could find some way out. Just as I thought that the house groaned and creaked and she spoke, telling me that it wouldn't help me and laughed. I hide behind a pile of bones and watched her float by. I ran down a long dark hallway that seemed to grow darker and mustier. I got into the basement which was an old crypt converted into a rundown wine cellar. I accidentally knocked over a pile of old metal buckets and froze. Nothing happened for a few seconds so I kept walking and noticed a single light by a brick wall, near an archway that lead to a bulked. Just as I got into the light she came through the wall at me, laughing. I stood my ground and started glowing an indigo color. She gasped and got this fearful expression. I punched her (no Im not one for abuse to women, but she was undead and out to kill me, haha) in the face, splitting open her right eye. She screamed and wailed as this green glowing ooze leaked out like blood, and went back into the wall. I ran for the bulked which surprisingly flew open, seemingly on its own. A blinding warm golden light shinned in as an arm wearing white armor reached for me. I took the hand and was pulled out and woke up.

To this day I believe that dream was about Demons and angles, and I haven't been scared of the idea of demons since. It's also made the idea of reptilian overlords not so scary to me as well. If they really need to spend all that time doing that for self gratification and other selfish needs, then they're not worth being scared of, as they're cowardly wimps, still they are of interest to me since I like learning things, conventional or otherwise. :)



"could there be a dimension shift,for us?...there's just over three years to find out...or hahahaha,disappointment...if that happens,no body will believe in anything again"

haha, you could be right. Even if nothing happens at all, I wouldn't see it as a bad thing. I'll continue to try and tread lightly through life, and experience and enjoy it's fine points as best I can regardless of what does or doesn't happen. Again, thank you for the reply, great thread. :D


...hahahaha...I just tried multi-quoting this post...and completely stuffed it up
deleted a page of information...damn.Try again.

Mr Indigo,Thankyou sir,for your reply.Started to ponder our last post,and thought,the earth has a power grid,ley/dragon lines of energy.Now,the lodges here and occultist,do rituals,to cause blockage at points.Now,there is a opposite reaction to every action,I'm starting to think these fairy folk are
playful mantainance men for planet Earths energy.Yes,I do believe,what you say,destroy earth,at 3d physical,wham,you wipe out other layers.When H.......,took me to Orion,I could not percieve life,yet,it may have been in front of me,it was my limited features,that prevented it,I believe.

...Those grey energies,pity them they got terminal illness or diseases,when I get healed,those energies have been pulled out of my favourite chakra,the heart.Should be a nice green band...you described me to a T...that rainbow lazer light show,and trying to regain that,after allowing myself to be jaded.
...the reds are angry or sexual,depending on the clarity and brightness.That rare orange,might be a gold,you're thinking of,only rare bliss brings this on for me...when I feel like a child,and aurically,become 4-10 times bigger,that's why they call me the giant.God,the heart just beams,can't describe it...
humble and happy,ever watchful of the footsteps one takes,you become so powerful,you would'nt hurt anything.To me,that's real power.

...That eating of Blue bread and drinking their liquid...you're brave...I'll look up Vallee's book,see what happened there,but it could be totally right,cause you are advanced,if you don't mind me saying a compliment.Yes,the dances,prickly neck and energy rushes,hahahaha...my job is done,good is'nt it?hahahaha...love it.:D:):D...I love the folk,they're playful,full of life and love what they do for each other...my kind of play.


...This PC is playing up,hang on,I'll answer more in a bit...jason.

[thelyran]

...Mr Indigo...you should check out Samtak's post in the reptiles section,I just remembered,he had a vial of light globes to drink...you got blue bread...
I think it reminded me of ergot,thought you might trip out....hahahaha:D

[mrindigo]

...Mr Indigo...you should check out Samtak's post in the reptiles section,I just remembered,he had a vial of light globes to drink...you got blue bread...
I think it reminded me of ergot,thought you might trip out....hahahaha:D


Hahaha...Funny you mention that...I once accidentally ate some cinnamon raisin bread that had purple erogt on it...whew that was wacky...well until I vomited profusely.

Ah so you're one of the Laser types, that explains your wisdom. :)
As for me being advanced, thank you, but I'm still learning and growing. I have a lot to experience before I reach that status. :D

I tried looking for Samtek's post, but I wasn't able to find it. Any idea what the title was, better yet, was it in this thread? :D

[samtak]

Hahaha...Funny you mention that...I once accidentally ate some cinnamon raisin bread that had purple erogt on it...whew that was wacky...well until I vomited profusely.

Ah so you're one of the Laser types, that explains your wisdom. :)
As for me being advanced, thank you, but I'm still learning and growing. I have a lot to experience before I reach that status. :D

I tried looking for Samtek's post, but I wasn't able to find it. Any idea what the title was, better yet, was it in this thread? :D

It is in this thread. I think you can click on my name and find all the threads I have posted.

[thelyran]

Hahaha...Funny you mention that...I once accidentally ate some cinnamon raisin bread that had purple erogt on it...whew that was wacky...well until I vomited profusely.

Ah so you're one of the Laser types, that explains your wisdom. :)
As for me being advanced, thank you, but I'm still learning and growing. I have a lot to experience before I reach that status. :D

I tried looking for Samtek's post, but I wasn't able to find it. Any idea what the title was, better yet, was it in this thread? :D

...Wow,Mr Indigo,lucky you came back.I think LSD was developed by a German chemist,early 20th century...although not familiar with the exact particulars,one thing I remember,is the chemist,loosing it for four days,because he absorbed the first batch of ergot LSD,in spore form through the skin.When I was 14,very interested in this field,and tried to rot Rye bread
...probably a good thing,my father caught me out,disposed of the impending disaster.First experiences of Kundalini back then too.But,I did'nt go with it.

....No,read Samtaks accounts,they're very informative and looks like he is well on the road to being a healer of some type.

I had a look at the profile of yours Mr Indigo,checked out your water colours
and pictures you drew,I can see why you were so moved to do so....For me,
I'm so glad you were made to feel comfortable to add your account here...
for which I thank you very much for.

...To me,looks like we humans,have a way to go to understand other realities
...for those who wrote their accounts here,at least,you are already off the mark...not that's a race,those who are advanced,have the job of guiding others,later.Thankyou so much Mr Indigo...:)...regards Jason.

[thelyran]

It is in this thread. I think you can click on my name and find all the threads I have posted.


...Now where have you been sir,but much more,how have you been sir?My kids come in the other day,they loved your avatar...they picked it straight
away,The Homer.Cracked me up,so they have a soft spot for you.If you like
Sam,feel free to post links to your other post if you like.One of your threads dropped by,I'll bump it up later.

I found your experience fascinating and really at a lost to name it,but must transcend arrogance,as we have not all got the answers.But,if others have corroborating stories,like you two,maybe a new tapestry of information may form.You see,I wish to think the reptiles out of existance.I do not want the people and the planet connected with them,I want them to leave...like an
old reggae song"I'll put on an iron shirt,and chase the deviloff the Earth
...in bold is the name of the song.Good to see you back sir...when available,
and feel right to do so,please feel free to contribute....

I got to leave for a few hours guys,Parent and teacher night...I have to cook dinner...my partner,is getting all the credit for my sons excellent performance at school...:D...I'll make a nice wife tonight...:D..see you guys in a few hours
.......regards Jason.

[mrindigo]

This is partly a bump in response to a response to my 1st thread, and also the conclusion to that post.

First though, to thelyrian: What I saw when I was young in no way resembled a crocodillian. It's head was too small.

The second experience I had with an other-wordly something-or-other was in March or April of 2002, in Waterloo Ontario.

Again, I was in bed, experiencing this ability to see through my own eyelids. This time it was morning, I was alone, and I lived in a basement suit. My room had a window at grade level that was set into what's called a "window well". I hope you can picture this, because it's hard to explain otherwise.

I was lying on my back, watching the curtains billow in the breeze, which should have been impossible, given that the window was surrounded by a 24" high dirt wall (the wall of the window well, that is). Anyway, the curtains were moving as if a rather stiff breeze was somehow coming through the window. I remember thinking this was odd, and then noticing the sillhouette of someone's legs walking past the window-well. My first thought was tat it was my roomate Steve planning on scaring me by jumping into the well, or banging on the window or something. I don't remember seeing anything step into the space right outside of the window, but I do recall noticing the silhouette of something sort of crouching outside the window.
Then, a long fingered, translucent gold hand reached through the window. It had 4 fingers, each having 4 knuckles (other than the thumb, which had three) and no visible fingernails. This would have been the creatures right hand.
In it's hand was a test-tube, larger than one you would find in a chemistry set, or any I used in high school chem class. It was thicker, to hold more liquid than whatever a regular test-tube holds. Inside was an amber liquid, not darker, but richer than the shade of the creatures skin. Floating in the liquid were 4 opaque golden spheres. They actually shone in the light coming through the window... I'm reluctant to say that this thing might have itself been emanating a light, but it seems that way when I see it in my head now. I understood it to be handing this phial to me, so I sat up in bed in order to be able to reach its hand. I used my right hand reach for the phial. Rather than the fear I felt when I was 7 and saw that other thing, I was extremely curious, and happy to see this new entity. I wanted to see this one's face, and from sitting I could make out the vague shape of it's head through the curtains. The curtains, no longer moving, were separated by his arm. I could just see through the crack, and staring into the light coming through the window, and the strange glow from the thing itself, I could only get a hint of facial features. my first thought, when the experience was over, was this thing looked wise, but the only feature I could describe would be its nose, which was long and bulbous, not unlike that of a proboscis monkey.

I drank the liquid in the phial. The 4 golden spheres were slightly narrower than the diameter of the tube, and I consumed them easily. I cannot remember a flavour or texture to the liquid, or the spheres. I handed the phial back to the creature, it withdrew it's hand, and I regained control of my body still sitting in bed, my left arm behind me to support my weight, and my right arm stretched towards the window. I remember feeling fantastic that morning, one of a kind - the light seemed brighter, and I was in the best mood all day.

I have had definable night terrors before and since this occurence, and this was a completely different feeling. I didn't feel helpless, and I did decide conciously to drink whatever was in the vial. Also, night terrors, and other nocturnal mental-states don't involve curiosity. Dreams, even lucid dreams and night terrors are entirely contained withing your mind. I can tell you I have been surprised by lucid dreams or night terrors, but once they've started, I've never been curious about what was going to happen next, because ultimately I could control what I was seeing, doing or experiencing. This wise-looking, translucent, apparently benign creature acted of it's own accord outside of my control, and I would not have acted as I did (accepting this whatever from a glowing alien at my bedroom window) had I not been curious.


That's amazing, Samtek. I too have had those moments where I could see through my eyelids, though when I did it wasn't normal vision. I have not had any sort of glowing being appear in front of me that I can remember though. Everything was this orange color, and the edges of my vision were sort of faded, like looking through a frosty window with a warm spot in the center.
Even stranger still are the times where I'm extremely lucid, and then find myself looking down at myself sleeping. Now that's trippy, haha. :D I still see things in an Orange hue. It's just so strange being able to see yourself asleep and know that you're there in two places at once. It's like your thought process fires off twice at the same time. I don't have any control over it, and thus it doesn't happen very often sadly.

The liquid you describe intrigues me. I was handed some glowing blue bread by a tall blue/gray humanoid with a long nose, wild hair, and sunken golden beady eyes in a dream. Like you, I wasn't afraid and ate it anyway, though I think your experience is more significant. Part of me wonders if you were given this help you along on your path in life, sort of like a spiritual vitamin. I don't think it's completely active yet though, the catalyst is missing. That could be anything really. Meeting a specific person, finding a special place, facing personal truths, or even something as grand as the celestial alignments of 2012. No one will truly know but you I think. :D

[mrindigo]

...Wow,Mr Indigo,lucky you came back.I think LSD was developed by a German chemist,early 20th century...although not familiar with the exact particulars,one thing I remember,is the chemist,loosing it for four days,because he absorbed the first batch of ergot LSD,in spore form through the skin.When I was 14,very interested in this field,and tried to rot Rye bread
...probably a good thing,my father caught me out,disposed of the impending disaster.First experiences of Kundalini back then too.But,I did'nt go with it.

....No,read Samtaks accounts,they're very informative and looks like he is well on the road to being a healer of some type.

I had a look at the profile of yours Mr Indigo,checked out your water colours
and pictures you drew,I can see why you were so moved to do so....For me,
I'm so glad you were made to feel comfortable to add your account here...
for which I thank you very much for.

...To me,looks like we humans,have a way to go to understand other realities
...for those who wrote their accounts here,at least,you are already off the mark...not that's a race,those who are advanced,have the job of guiding others,later.Thankyou so much Mr Indigo...:)...regards Jason.

I wasn't aware that was linked to LSD! :eek: I'm very lucky I vomited that up, or things could have ended badly for me. On the same note, I'm glade you were prevented from potentially meeting a grim fate too, as you would not be here now. :)

Thank you for the kind words regarding my water colors. I really enjoy art and have had a passion for it since I was very young. Lately over the past few years, its been more driven than before. I find a lot of it unintentionally being linked in some way to the various things I've seen talked about on these forums. It's been eye opening, a little scary, but very interesting.

I agree with you, we do have a lot to understand. That's why we are here I think. I believe we are meant to be here to gather some level of understanding in the way the grand design works. Off the mark or on the mark, I'm currently content in knowing how little I truly know. It just means that my pursuit for understanding hasn't ended. :D

[finn234]

this thread is a nice read, has a real calm, magical feeling like someone pointed out :)

i think i will volunteer some info about some experiances i had as a kid :p


i went through a phase (cant remember exactly how old i was, but i was very young) where i was kinda paranoid. i was scared of these 'people' that seemed to be everywhere, but invisible. i was just scared of being on my own incase they did anything to me, i mean they couldnt really 'get through' to our level here but i just wanted to make sure that they didnt jump out at me somehow. it sounds crazy, and its hard for me to describe, but it was very strange, and when i first read about the Arabic 'Jinn' a shiver went up my spine as i remembered my experiances as a kid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie

i only started reading about them after reading Icke mentioning them in The Biggest Secret when talking about The Reptilians.

nowadays im faaarrr from being as much of a 'scaredy-cat' as i was back then ;) im much more full of... 'love' i guess. sometimes i get moments where i can kind of 'see' an 'otherside' to the world we're in now, where everything - all the matter around me and everywhere - is buzzing with awareness and 'love' and peace. its very nice :D


i would like to get my genealogy done one day, just to find out if what i was seeing as a kid was anything more than an imagination gone a bit wild :confused:


and after volunteering this i can appreciate how brave people like Stewart Swerdlow are for being so honest and open lol :)

[solarwindspirit]

Since I am NOT a Buddhist monk, what seems to work for me is a bit of weed and once or twice yearly a heavy munchie, like shrooms, peyote or aya. Hmmmaybe a littl' more depending on availability.

hmm so how do you distinguish between your hallucination delusion or even a mere projection. . . seems drugs would be quite destructive to me. But you do know it was all just a trip. . .I hope. No wonder that Reptilians are real.

yah. . .I tried weed in highschool but was never my thing.

And yah LSD that was unbeknowingly given to me at a party. I ended up; Sort of like those giggly cheerleaders who wound up in the ER or on the show
ER. Let me tell you it wasn't funny was it but it was fuzzy and wuzzy.

It's called survivng your youth here in the states, I guess.

Try pranic breathing (http://www.psychic101.com/pranic-healing.html). Watch this technique: here (http://www.pranichealing.com/video/pranic-healing-ancient-art-heal-body)

If all this BS in the world is about "control" perhaps it will open a whole new
"box" for you. You'll find out just how much this world truly is an "illusion". No
one can gain access over your thoughts or emotions as much as you can. And no can else can pull the sword from the stone as well you can. You're all Sir Lancelot, I'll night you all with my staff. As noone has a monopoly over the truth. I can't gaurantee a holographic reality for you (perhaps it's all in the genes) But a definate expansion of thought, I do see. (yes, I believe in the holographic reality but don't believe in everything I do see and I question everything I do read. . .is it the truth because truth is king)

[thelyran]

this thread is a nice read, has a real calm, magical feeling like someone pointed out :)

i think i will volunteer some info about some experiances i had as a kid :p


i went through a phase (cant remember exactly how old i was, but i was very young) where i was kinda paranoid. i was scared of these 'people' that seemed to be everywhere, but invisible. i was just scared of being on my own incase they did anything to me, i mean they couldnt really 'get through' to our level here but i just wanted to make sure that they didnt jump out at me somehow. it sounds crazy, and its hard for me to describe, but it was very strange, and when i first read about the Arabic 'Jinn' a shiver went up my spine as i remembered my experiances as a kid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie

i only started reading about them after reading Icke mentioning them in The Biggest Secret when talking about The Reptilians.

nowadays im faaarrr from being as much of a 'scaredy-cat' as i was back then ;) im much more full of... 'love' i guess. sometimes i get moments where i can kind of 'see' an 'otherside' to the world we're in now, where everything - all the matter around me and everywhere - is buzzing with awareness and 'love' and peace. its very nice :D


i would like to get my genealogy done one day, just to find out if what i was seeing as a kid was anything more than an imagination gone a bit wild :confused:


and after volunteering this i can appreciate how brave people like Stewart Swerdlow are for being so honest and open lol :)


...That sounds like the shadow people,you are describing.See them out the corner of your eye,being a child,with the most powerful emotions,besides puberty,you could have opened a door-way.Unhindered children are psychic,
well,the ones I met,and you,tuning your powerful child to fear...anything is possible,especially,when you try to percieve beyond the veil,with very little technique,brave little you:):D...You read the Biggest Secret,I did,in 1999,
went through a six month period of rage,glad you took it better than me
*Wink*...
It is a nice thread and a little magical,hope others are not to shy to render their accounts of childhood,or any experiences someone close had.I got excited by a new user,Galaticwhacko,talking about his children seeing the reptilians,but unfortunate,he may have missed this one.Love that Faith No More avatar,I was more King For A Day,the Richochet,in particular is very powerful...good times the early and mid 90s.
...Thankyou very kindly,for taking the time,to offer your experience and to give credit to this thread,not only do one feels flattered,you make me feel
a little magical too,regards and love Jase:)

[finn234]

...That sounds like the shadow people,you are describing.See them out the corner of your eye,being a child,with the most powerful emotions,besides puberty,you could have opened a door-way.Unhindered children are psychic,
well,the ones I met,and you,tuning your powerful child to fear...anything is possible,especially,when you try to percieve beyond the veil,with very little technique,brave little you:):D...You read the Biggest Secret,I did,in 1999,
went through a six month period of rage,glad you took it better than me
*Wink*...
It is a nice thread and a little magical,hope others are not to shy to render their accounts of childhood,or any experiences someone close had.I got excited by a new user,Galaticwhacko,talking about his children seeing the reptilians,but unfortunate,he may have missed this one.Love that Faith No More avatar,I was more King For A Day,the Richochet,in particular is very powerful...good times the early and mid 90s.
...Thankyou very kindly,for taking the time,to offer your experience and to give credit to this thread,not only do one feels flattered,you make me feel
a little magical too,regards and love Jase:)

ah, thanks for the kind response man :D

yeah when i read The Biggest Secret i had already seen the film 'Endgame' so i had already been 'broken in' to the scale of the NWO (as well as the eternal peace that is the only reality)

lol when i chose this Avatar i literally just looked down at my CD player for some cool image to have, and i saw that album cover and i set it as that :P

ive heard some songs off king for a day but Angel Dust is still my favourite :D

infinite love,

Finn234

[marpat]

My kids have never said they saw anything of the sort although my daughter did once say she could see a woman crying in her room, which freaked my wife out.

[danceswithbunnies]

I had an experience with something attacking me back in 2000, in my sleep. It was beating me up and raping me while "woke up" , overcame sleep paralysis through sheer rage and chased the thing into the hallway.(hooded creature no face) i have been told that it was a lower level reptillian by others...i have had many other strange experiences.

The following is MY experience, and so may not be true for someone else.

I have just started 'seeing' ghosts,orbs, spirits and things out of the corner of my eye within the last couple of years, in the last year it is getting much more frequent. My mom says that this particular gift runs in my family...my ability may have been blocked because like many here, i grew up in an abusive home..as an adult i experienced a numbver of traumatic events.

Had been looking for ways to bring seeing spirits into focus...none of the 'psychics' or other people i have spoken with have offered helpful advice.


So by trial and error i tried many things.

I tried meditating to Brainwave Suites Delta level with eyes open which helped some.

The one thing i have noticed is that whenever i tend towards following a set path spiritually, with pre-set beliefs, i will stop seeing things. I had been "looking around" spirituality wise...which spirituality is "best".

Sufi, Esoteric christianity,Gnostic, Witchcraft, Shamanism,Zen...this has been going on for 4-5 years. Reading alot, practicing various disciplines.

Came to conclusion that FOR ME it is better to have no hard set belief.
For some reason belief seems to close that natural ability off for me, i don't know why.

One thing i have noticed that seems to help is doing a Quiet Your Mind* (by John Selby a student of Alan Watt the Zen enthusiast) technique while letting my eyes go wide focus ,like in those Magic Eye pictures.

There is something fundamental going on also with the heart chakra..i think it may be the connection to all that its. (Sufi and Eastern Orthodox say t is as well). I have noticed that the love meditation, (simply concentrate breathing love into heart chakra) i do is also seems helpful in assisting this kind of sight..

Not sure if i should even be writing about this.
Sorry if it interrupts your thread.
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*Quiet your mind exercise is simply to sit quietly, focus on breathing, heartbeat, and felt body sense simultaneously. Alan Watt found that if you focus on one thing like breathing, your mind would start chattering...two the mind would slow down, focussing on three things at the same time tends to make the mind stop...John Selby his student and a psychologist picked up this idea, and wrote a book about it.

[epic fail guy]

I too, saw reptoids when i was young. It was amazing to say the least. They were green and had some hard cover to hide in, they practiced kung fu and ate pizza. Michelango was always my favorite by far but also master Splinter, he too, was someone to admire.

[91181]

I can remember when i was about 6-9 standing facing the bath and i could feel the presence of something big behind me , i turnt and caught a very brief glimse of it , i can only describe it as batman like or a better description would be that thing in the film jeepers creepers because i remember it definatly had the wings.. it stood around 9 ft was pure black in colour and had an aura that shook me to the core i will never ever forget it..


My late mother was into Tarot, uigie boards and would hold a groups at the house every week , maybe this could be connected ?

[metacomet]

When it comes to reptilians targeting children, we need only realize that children are inherently sensitive to other-dimensional energies. This accounts for our dream-like notions of reality and the almost paranormal nature of life as a child.

The best protection for a child is to tell them they are special for seeing what they see but not to be upset or worry about it. If they are under serious attack I recommend a house smudging and prayer, beyond that there is not much that can be done to curb the influence of a gifted child who may or may not be seeing spiritual entities.

Lower dimensional entities are attracted to silence, discord (i.e. negative emotions or tension in the household), and the use of hard substances or hard alcohol etc. They can wander from one house to another, once invited by someone's activity. We must realize that what we call 'demons' are spawned from the activity of other people and it is sometimes roll of the dice whether or not you bump into them on the other side.

Children with spiritual sight must be encouraged to maintain courage and curiosity without provoking obsession or the stigma attached to 'seeing things'.

We have all in our childhood suppressed visions of unexplainable things, likeout of body experiences, past life recall dreams, semi-dream state vision (as an infant your consciousness views other realities and not just the physical room.)

As a child we are also convinced that anything happening in dream state reality is real because we have not been conditioned to believe that they are not actual experiences. They are in fact, like all of our dreams, the activity of dimensional and reality travel. This is a natural gift to all humans (to dream, i.e. navigate imaginary realms).

There is nothing that can explain the activity of most dreams as easily as viewing another dimension or reality. Parallel universes are what we dream when things are normal but just 'a little off' and other realities include those of the reptilians.

A child that see's this bleed through must be taken care of until they reach a maturity level where monsters are considered imaginary and not real. It is the things we consider to be real that will have the most power over us, including bad spirits, who are indeed real and convince us thoroughly.

Even if they are real, you mustn't take stock of their existence beyond what it takes to console or protect the child. This is tricky but it's my ideas on children seeing reptilians.

[thelyran]

I had an experience with something attacking me back in 2000, in my sleep. It was beating me up and raping me while "woke up" , overcame sleep paralysis through sheer rage and chased the thing into the hallway.(hooded creature no face) i have been told that it was a lower level reptillian by others...i have had many other strange experiences.

The following is MY experience, and so may not be true for someone else.

I have just started 'seeing' ghosts,orbs, spirits and things out of the corner of my eye within the last couple of years, in the last year it is getting much more frequent. My mom says that this particular gift runs in my family...my ability may have been blocked because like many here, i grew up in an abusive home..as an adult i experienced a numbver of traumatic events.

Had been looking for ways to bring seeing spirits into focus...none of the 'psychics' or other people i have spoken with have offered helpful advice.


So by trial and error i tried many things.

I tried meditating to Brainwave Suites Delta level with eyes open which helped some.

The one thing i have noticed is that whenever i tend towards following a set path spiritually, with pre-set beliefs, i will stop seeing things. I had been "looking around" spirituality wise...which spirituality is "best".

Sufi, Esoteric christianity,Gnostic, Witchcraft, Shamanism,Zen...this has been going on for 4-5 years. Reading alot, practicing various disciplines.

Came to conclusion that FOR ME it is better to have no hard set belief.
For some reason belief seems to close that natural ability off for me, i don't know why.

One thing i have noticed that seems to help is doing a Quiet Your Mind* (by John Selby a student of Alan Watt the Zen enthusiast) technique while letting my eyes go wide focus ,like in those Magic Eye pictures.

There is something fundamental going on also with the heart chakra..i think it may be the connection to all that its. (Sufi and Eastern Orthodox say t is as well). I have noticed that the love meditation, (simply concentrate breathing love into heart chakra) i do is also seems helpful in assisting this kind of sight..

Not sure if i should even be writing about this.
Sorry if it interrupts your thread.
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*Quiet your mind exercise is simply to sit quietly, focus on breathing, heartbeat, and felt body sense simultaneously. Alan Watt found that if you focus on one thing like breathing, your mind would start chattering...two the mind would slow down, focussing on three things at the same time tends to make the mind stop...John Selby his student and a psychologist picked up this idea, and wrote a book about it.


Hello Bunny,
...that's a disturbing experience.I noticed those who go through some kind of trauma,develope extra-sensory perceptions.Although,it was unsettling to read this,you made a link to the heart-chakra,the one they try and attack on me as well.I theorise,it some mid-point,between thought and expression,put
a divider there,and you become ungrounded,full of fear/hate and scattered,which has happened alot to me.
...Please don't apologise,I thankyou for putting your account here and you are on topic,I admire your bravery and making the effort to do so,trouble
yourself not.Pity about not finding a good psychic,I've been very lucky in that regards.You take care Bunnies,I suspect,it does'nt go on now,love Jase:)

BTW...if you want to read something similar,but more intense,go and read my other Reptile thread,Freedom From The Reptiles...I'll admit,been avoiding the reptile section as of late,nothing to do with the sub-forum,I'm just in a period
of deep disgust with the scaley ones again...pathetic little beings they are.

[thelyran]

I too, saw reptoids when i was young. It was amazing to say the least. They were green and had some hard cover to hide in, they practiced kung fu and ate pizza. Michelango was always my favorite by far but also master Splinter, he too, was someone to admire.

...Next time I take on a Reppie,I want a face like that...they'd crap themselves laughing,and I can exit,stage right.That Pizza thing,interesting,
may write about this queer dream I had,when I was 14,about deflecting
light beams from greys,with a Pizza shield...weird,and that was before
Whitley Streiber and Greys making pop-culture,I never seen them before,I dreamt them...weird again.You'd think a kid of that age,would be dreaming
a little wet and more shapely females...Love Jase:)

Don't get rid of that avatar...priceless.:D

[thelyran]

I can remember when i was about 6-9 standing facing the bath and i could feel the presence of something big behind me , i turnt and caught a very brief glimse of it , i can only describe it as batman like or a better description would be that thing in the film jeepers creepers because i remember it definatly had the wings.. it stood around 9 ft was pure black in colour and had an aura that shook me to the core i will never ever forget it..


My late mother was into Tarot, uigie boards and would hold a groups at the house every week , maybe this could be connected ?

Wow,91181,check out Jonny74 post at the beginning of the thread,he described something like that as well...that's just freaky.At that age,I would've buried it...you poor guy.I had a wonderful visitor,interspersed with
some dark stuff,but nothing like that.Geez,you take care sir,Love Jase:)

[gilly]

I can actually remember vividly quite a few things from when I was a baby.

I slept in a cot in my mum & dad's room, and there was an ornately carved oak wardrobe next to the cot.

Every night, when my parents were asleep, I'd see one particular spot of the carving (top, right hand corner) start twitching about in the gloom, then a small figure of an elf-type critter would jump out of it, and jump on top of the wardrobe, watching me.

I couldn't make out a lot of its detail because of the lack of lighting, but I sensed it meant me harm, and was waiting for me to go to sleep, so I'd always stay awake for as long as possible.

It was before I could speak properly, and it went on regularly.

My mum says she remembers that I used to be crying often, and looking fearfully at the wardrobe, and I wouldn't settle down unless she slept holding my hand through the cot bars.

I've thought about it since (was reminded of it when I read Clive Barker's Weaveworld some years back, about characters who lived in a carpet), but had convinced myself that it was probably the result of an overactive imagination.

Then last year, when I was having tea at my sister's house, she started talking about a 'funny goblin thing' that used to live on that wardrobe and tormented her at night when she was tiny!!!

Obviously our husbands took the piss, but I backed her up, because I knew damned well that no matter how utterly ridiculous it sounded, whe was telling the absolute truth.

Make of it what you will.

There were a heck of a lot more wierd things that went on in that house (my siblings & I refer to it as Hell House).

[thelyran]

I can actually remember vividly quite a few things from when I was a baby.

I slept in a cot in my mum & dad's room, and there was an ornately carved oak wardrobe next to the cot.

Every night, when my parents were asleep, I'd see one particular spot of the carving (top, right hand corner) start twitching about in the gloom, then a small figure of an elf-type critter would jump out of it, and jump on top of the wardrobe, watching me.

I couldn't make out a lot of its detail because of the lack of lighting, but I sensed it meant me harm, and was waiting for me to go to sleep, so I'd always stay awake for as long as possible.

It was before I could speak properly, and it went on regularly.

My mum says she remembers that I used to be crying often, and looking fearfully at the wardrobe, and I wouldn't settle down unless she slept holding my hand through the cot bars.

I've thought about it since (was reminded of it when I read Clive Barker's Weaveworld some years back, about characters who lived in a carpet), but had convinced myself that it was probably the result of an overactive imagination.

Then last year, when I was having tea at my sister's house, she started talking about a 'funny goblin thing' that used to live on that wardrobe and tormented her at night when she was tiny!!!

Obviously our husbands took the piss, but I backed her up, because I knew damned well that no matter how utterly ridiculous it sounded, whe was telling the absolute truth.

Make of it what you will.

There were a heck of a lot more wierd things that went on in that house (my siblings & I refer to it as Hell House).

Gilly,
You made my skin crawl when one reads the line,when I was having tea at
my sisters house,she started talking about a "funny goblin thing" that used to live in the wardrobe" ,thus confirming your beliefs...then my head shot off...thankyou.see,we're not mad,there is unexplainable perceptions when a
child.I was'nt even a beliver of anything,until,it was interpretted for me.Wow
....I asked,I Am,a moderator here,did she have the fairy theme because she
could see them,but no,she's being cute.
I mean,you did'nt read books about them,because I did'nt,I liked Thunderbirds
Batman,and this hippy cartoon where the class tripped out and went in time,
cool,..you know what I mean.I am also aware you practiced in your younger days,benevolence through occultism,but a good girl.So you are not unfamiliar with other realms....
Thanks and love for replying with candour,I like that alot.We're not alone.
Jason.

[biblegirl]

The one thing i have noticed is that whenever i tend towards following a set path spiritually, with pre-set beliefs, i will stop seeing things. I had been "looking around" spirituality wise...which spirituality is "best".

Sufi, Esoteric christianity,Gnostic, Witchcraft, Shamanism,Zen...this has been going on for 4-5 years. Reading alot, practicing various disciplines.

Came to conclusion that FOR ME it is better to have no hard set belief.
For some reason belief seems to close that natural ability off for me, i don't know why.


thank you danceswithbunnies, this is so true!

[danceswithbunnies]

Hello Bunny,
...that's a disturbing experience.I noticed those who go through some kind of trauma,develope extra-sensory perceptions.Although,it was unsettling to read this,you made a link to the heart-chakra,the one they try and attack on me as well.I theorise,it some mid-point,between thought and expression,put
a divider there,and you become ungrounded,full of fear/hate and scattered,which has happened alot to me.
...Please don't apologise,I thankyou for putting your account here and you are on topic,I admire your bravery and making the effort to do so,trouble
yourself not.Pity about not finding a good psychic,I've been very lucky in that regards.You take care Bunnies,I suspect,it does'nt go on now,love Jase:)

BTW...if you want to read something similar,but more intense,go and read my other Reptile thread,Freedom From The Reptiles...I'll admit,been avoiding the reptile section as of late,nothing to do with the sub-forum,I'm just in a period
of deep disgust with the scaley ones again...pathetic little beings they are.


I heard that they attack the heart chakra too.
This fellow in particular talks about it(which you may have already seen)
Human Assembalage Point
http://www.equilibra.uk.com/shop7.shtml
I don't take everything he says as the truth, but i do keep what he says about the heart chakra in mind.The heart chakra from natural experiencers (people who do not get tangled up in some religious or spiritual program)is where you communicate with animals/nature etc..

the above, the fact that eptialians attach to your heart chakra is why i am LEERY to use any of the heart chakra meditation like the Sufi heart meditations (using names of god), or the eastern orthodox prayer of the heart.

Maybe i should post this on your other thread...because i really need to know more about this...and if you have any information to share i would DEEPLY, appreciate it.

That wAsn't the only disturbing experience i had, i have had many, but that was the one that happened when i started to SEE what was going on.
I had always been aware that no matter how hard i tried, i could not lie to myself and believe it like others could.

That night, Right Before that particular sequence..i had been dreaming within a dream within a dream that i was in bed, and this spider shape was EATING my legs..it was under the bed clothes chomping my legs...i would wake up in bed again, and the spider thing again came from the bottom of the bed near my feet under the blankets eating my legs again..i woke up...

Then the sequence with the hooded figure with no face..i screamed at it to go into the earth in the name of Christ...

Christ is the consciousness within all of us i believe, my husband has been out of body (he does it at will sometimes, my experiences are spontaneous)and seen hooded things with no faces hanging around the house, and has told them point blank to leave in the name of Christ. He also understands Christ to be the unique consciousness within us humans..he says you have to be detached emotionally when you tell them to go.Apparently they are drawn to me, i have very strong emotions...some of the conspiracy material really triggers it too.

Anyway when i came back into my body, this shadow spider flew off my face onto the opposite wall and was writhing there for a good 2-3 minutes while i was full awake...this was back in 2000.

Interestingly i had wrestled on and off with a drinking problem that left me at that time.(i also fell into christian fundamentalism..for a year or so)
I am gonna go check out your other thread now...THANK YOU.

[biblegirl]

also here is a link to a thread i started "Interdimensional Animals and Insects", like your spider story...http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55340

thelyran do you have a link to the other thread you mentioned? thanks :)

[danceswithbunnies]

THANK YOU biblegirl

Do you understand why set belief systems leave you open to predation?
I am looking for theanswer to that, my experiences tell me that is the case.
Reptilians are fairly rigid minded aren't they? Maybe set beliefs brings a person down to their level of vibration?
(my dad might be possessed by one)

The other day i was meditating with the monroe tapes, and had a distrubing visual of an etheric insectoid, like a wasp, stinging people and laying an egg inside their energy body...still upset about that one.

Here it is, maybe i should bump it?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16334

this is alot of reading...and i was suppossed to be cutting down on computer time (sigh) this is too important though.
I have heard that i have holes in my aura, that actually have closed since leaving set belief systems.

[mind1universe]

When I was young I could see the reptillans too, but they were like memories and feelings of power manifested through the actual people. I was about 4 years of age and My mam and I would be on the bus, and I could see them and stare at them, since I'm so perceptual, they would freak or kneejerk in my precense. Alot were not aware they were reptillian... But I always remember people reacting to my mum, saying your child gave me such a look and my mum wuold, say oh hes just partially deaf....;)

But I love you reptillians be sure of that.

[biblegirl]

THANK YOU biblegirl

Do you understand why set belief systems leave you open to predation?
I am looking for theanswer to that, my experiences tell me that is the case.
Reptilians are fairly rigid minded aren't they? Maybe set beliefs brings a person down to their level of vibration?


What i've experienced with set belief systems is that they are designed to keep us locked in to the lower vibration emotions, like guilt, fear, remorse, inadequacy....hence the "disciplines"....i believe that the entities feed off these frequecies, so these religions make us targets.

The visual of the wasp that you mentioned was very interesting. I wonder what that was about!!

[thelyran]

also here is a link to a thread i started "Interdimensional Animals and Insects", like your spider story...http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55340

thelyran do you have a link to the other thread you mentioned? thanks :)


...here you are
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16334

...there's a thread here by Tejas,about interdimensions ,near-death experiences and the Reptilians...you should see Limeladies post about the astral spiders...interesting.Thankyou Madam.

[thelyran]

THANK YOU biblegirl

Do you understand why set belief systems leave you open to predation?
I am looking for theanswer to that, my experiences tell me that is the case.
Reptilians are fairly rigid minded aren't they? Maybe set beliefs brings a person down to their level of vibration?
(my dad might be possessed by one)

The other day i was meditating with the monroe tapes, and had a distrubing visual of an etheric insectoid, like a wasp, stinging people and laying an egg inside their energy body...still upset about that one.

Here it is, maybe i should bump it?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16334

this is alot of reading...and i was suppossed to be cutting down on computer time (sigh) this is too important though.
I have heard that i have holes in my aura, that actually have closed since leaving set belief systems.


...Danceswithbunnies,I love your postings.You are one of the few,that has mentioned humans being used as a larval host.I've had that happen,but never mentioned it,in my other thread of horrors.It'feels like a energy bubble,blister,birthing out the side of my waste,but caustic and uncomfortable.
...I'm booked into Bill Martin tomorrow,so I'll feel better,next week,to write about the Reptilians,but while I'm low,it invites the energies back.

As with belief systems,find it better,to nullify all though and interpretation
when one ventures out into other realms.But never go "Out" unless,you're on top of the game...that's just me though.I'm respectful and try not to take my
baggage anywhere...but that's just how I tread.

PS...regards and love Jase:)

[thelyran]

When I was young I could see the reptillans too, but they were like memories and feelings of power manifested through the actual people. I was about 4 years of age and My mam and I would be on the bus, and I could see them and stare at them, since I'm so perceptual, they would freak or kneejerk in my precense. Alot were not aware they were reptillian... But I always remember people reacting to my mum, saying your child gave me such a look and my mum wuold, say oh hes just partially deaf....;)

But I love you reptillians be sure of that.

Siphon880di...he said something similar,when he went shopping and tried using different energies on "suspects"...he targetted.He found,heaping positive energy,made cranky people happy,but the suspect reptilians,ran for cover.The main energy they fear,seams to emanate from intune kids and
psychics...a mixture of purity with knowingness.They run.I'm not as open-armed to the scaley ones,the best I can wish them,is to move on,to another part of the universe,mind their own business's in future,or be nuked out the
sky...(Oh,sorry,influenced by GTA IV,Republican Space Rangers,check my new avatar,you'll get it:D...honestly,you'd be a wonderful person to know,one
who can send love to an emotionless programme that the reptoids are,well
in generally speaking,not considering,there might be a few more spiritually
advanced aspects of their race,not that I would advise one to hold their breath waiting.ummm...please excuse me on that.Regards and love Jase.

[finn234]

The other day i was meditating with the monroe tapes, and had a distrubing visual of an etheric insectoid, like a wasp, stinging people and laying an egg inside their energy body...still upset about that one.

Here it is, maybe i should bump it?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16334

this is alot of reading...and i was suppossed to be cutting down on computer time (sigh) this is too important though.
I have heard that i have holes in my aura, that actually have closed since leaving set belief systems.

you mean the Monroe Institute meditation stuff? id be a bit weary of that. a researcher called Richard Sauder says that they have major ties to the military intelligence in this one internet article he wrote:

I suspect the real reason that
"Kundalini Tales" has been deemed "too conspiratorial" for Strieber's taste
(as well as the taste of my most recent, anonymous reviewer at amazon.com
who just shredded me and my book up one side and down the other, making me
wonder about what "company" ties the anonymous "reviewer" may have) is that
I directly address some sacred cows:

1) I provide hard, documented evidence of the direct involvement of ex-Nazis
at the very highest levels of NASA.

2) I provide documented evidence of the direct ties between military
intelligence personnel, the Army Intelligence agency, and the Monroe
Institute, a New Age sacred cow for many people

whether hes right or not, might be worth looking into is all im saying, considering your experiances while meditating.

[largejack]

I saw a bright green creature with huge yellow eyes staring into my bedroom window from the top of the tree outside my house when I was about 3. I ran terrified into my mam and dad's room, and yet it was still there, but when i tried to point it out to them they couldn't see anything.

It's not until I started seeing images of these reptile creatures that I understood what I'd seen that night.

[thelyran]

I saw a bright green creature with huge yellow eyes staring into my bedroom window from the top of the tree outside my house when I was about 3. I ran terrified into my mam and dad's room, and yet it was still there, but when i tried to point it out to them they couldn't see anything.

It's not until I started seeing images of these reptile creatures that I understood what I'd seen that night.

Whoa !...
Not until seeing images of reptile creatures...and now you know.I'm glad you made it Largejack,just wanted you to know,you had me depressed and deranged for 2 days last week.Your story about the fur-trade in China,how they skin them alive,as they lay there convulsing...you do not want to know how I felt:mad:...and wanted to meditate on a warhead,make it explode...
I felt a bad word that day...the big "R" word.
...Going by many post you done before,I know you have had your heart,eyes and mind open for a long time now,but you surprised me with this one.You also wrote alot of post,that reveal your caring nature,so guess what,you're one of the good guys,sorry to point that out:D...thankyou for coming here,
and don't feel afraid,to discuss.Where you scared,because I was wondering if a child fear helps the dimensional jump...just theories,with very little scientific thought what so ever....hahahaha,Love Jase.

[simulacra]

I'm not sure if it was reptilian but when I was 2-7 years old my Mum took us to the park which had some swings, slides but pretty run down but it was okay.

On 3 visits when I was about 4-5 I saw a odd looking man who looked old but it wasn't wrinkles but deep lines running from forehead to neck sort of curved around the face in a vertical direction. His skin was yellowish and his pupils were red but kind of transparent and not a strong red. He didn't look human and had a pronounced jaw/mouth sort of monkey like and body was in the shape of an old man. His clothes were very poor similar Chinese farmer gear with a similar hat or straw hat, kind of very big bowl shape. The pic is just for the hat, his clothes were ancient cloth wrap around.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/695/usrlocalysambadatarepos.jpg

I tried to get my mums attention asking why he looks like that and what is it but he'd turn around and walk away around a small building on the park. My sister was two years younger and didn't say anything and my Mum never seen what I was seeing. It was ugly and a little scary.

I might draw a picture on the computer as its very clear in my mind but no idea what it was.

I put it down to overactive imagination or daydream state? as even very young till now in my 30's I have very clear, vivid dreams.

[mind1universe]

I see reptillians all the time, they are people waking around you.

Homo sapiens is not fully decendant from monkeys.


Most of humanity evolved from primates, but with the fallen angels, annuanki, reptillians(dinosaur and draco) pleidians. ( someone said the bird race, my eye sounds like a load of bullshit to me) and the feline race.


The mixing started in Middleast and Europe. The Nordics were in Europe along with Neanderthal. the Homo erectus from the south, the reptilians in the east and Americas all joined in the middleast. The genetic explosion led to modern day homosapiens. And homo sapiens then dominated all over the globe. The Neanderthal was then wiped out or the remainder interbred. Then as homo sapiens became more detached in different parts race groups appeared racially within the one species since we are so genetically different to other primates its explains why we evolve so diversely.


This is just my opinion, the reptillian population is less than 10percent. They hide underground and then mixed with our species to remain hidden. But reptilians look humanoid anyway, so with simple mastering of genetics, you can easily look like G.W.B:D:

How do you know.

Round, eyes,
Deep socket
Round face,
High temples
Narrow bridge of the nose
Hairless bodies
Extra vertebrae
fair skinned or fairly swallow
Eyes are striking and normally mixed colour green to hazel
very thin lips
well shaped back


Personality and how they appear to the world

They are "scanners" they scan the environment wherever they go.
They are always quiet when entering a room.
They do not talk in big crowds they tend to hermit into groups.
They are incredibly intellegent, and i know this, because i tend to ask them, about things and they know:D
They are not emotional, forget it, I'm extremely emotionally manipulative and can easily draw a crowd in, as im a natural empath. I cant make a reptillian cry, but I have a few times;)
When they like you, they like you alot
When they don't they will avoid you, if you try stop them, they will strike when your not looking
They are extremely passive and can easily switch tasks easily. Where are our mammalian minds are naturally slower to pace up.
They know" they are different". I mean this in the sense, that alot of reptillians are very ignorant of the world around them, because they just dont care and you can tell them they are reptillans and they will still give you the same reaction, "they dont care". But deep down they know who they are.

Well just my own observation.

[bobbydiva]

Reminds me of when I was maybe about 3 in the Supermarket and I saw this quite fat, old witchy looking woman just starring at me. I tried to point at her and get my mum's attention. I don't think anyone else could see her. I rmember saying mum, look it's the lady from my dream. I can't rmember thedream though.

I just got a profound sense of fear.

[marpat]

So how many people in this forum have got kids who have actually seens a reptiod? I have two kids who have never said they saw anything like that.

[finn234]

So how many people in this forum have got kids who have actually seens a reptiod? I have two kids who have never said they saw anything like that.

read through the thread - theres a few people who have said specifically 'reptoids'