Elevation

[size_of_light]

I don't read much on 'vibrational changes' or ascension and things like that, because I find most of the information ponderously esoteric and impractical, but I was just having a smoke outside and I thought of something I wanted to post to ask others if this is what they're talking about when they mention 3D reality and different dimensions etc.

If you look at a line drawing of a 3-dimensional cube on a piece of paper, (especially, in my case, if I'm stoned), you can go into the image and actually perceive it as occupying a 3-dimensional space. This isn't a deeper perception, it's a grosser, or denser perception, and a deeper level of illusion, even though it seems a bit trippy and cool. Like looking at one of those magic pictures where you deepen your focus and see 3D spaceships or unicorns inside them.

When you're in a clear frame of mind, you can look at the line drawing of the cube on the page and see that it's not a cube at all, it's just lines that give the illusion of being a cube on a flat piece of paper on your table, yet at the same time you can comprehend why it describes a 3D object that we call a cube. So that state of being is an 'ascension' from the state of being that perceived the cube as occupying a real 3D space, right?

Then, if, for example, you've been meditating regularly, and feel fantastic and well within your own skin, you can feel very light and fluid in this world, and have a sense of perception or a point of view that makes you feel very elevated, like you're above and beyond your physical body, yet also within it and part of the physical world too.

So, that's a form of ascension into a higher dimension, and that increasing state of lightening awareness (en-lightenment) is what would move you into and beyond the 3D world. But you never go anywhere or leave anything behind -- your vantage point just becomes broader and clearer and more free.

Is that what the hell you're all talking about? :p

[krakhead]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=d39IUTiwM18

:D

Sorry - was the first thing that crossed my mind when I read the title!

Now - what were you actually talking about? :D

Edit: Great post! Although I can get the 3D view of a cube without erm....'chemical enhancement'! Does that make me special? :p

[size_of_light]

Edit: Great post! Although I can get the 3D view of a cube without erm....'chemical enhancement'! Does that make me special? :p

No, just real fucking deluded! :D

[clozaril]

i think moving the cube is from 2d to 3d.

the idea of ascension or vibrating faster is like you say your still here and in your body but perception is altered/heightened/higher circuit. emotions are finer as opposed to been sticky/heavy. also i think a premise of 4d is that thoughts translate into reality faster.

then again i haven't ascended ;)

[lightblessins]

I don't read much on 'vibrational changes' or ascension and things like that, because I find most of the information ponderously esoteric and impractical, but I was just having a smoke outside and I thought of something I wanted to post to ask others if this is what they're talking about when they mention 3D reality and different dimensions etc.

If you look at a line drawing of a 3-dimensional cube on a piece of paper, (especially, in my case, if I'm stoned), you can go into the image and actually perceive it as occupying a 3-dimensional space. This isn't a deeper perception, it's a grosser, or denser perception, and a deeper level of illusion, even though it seems a bit trippy and cool. Like looking at one of those magic pictures where you deepen your focus and see 3D spaceships or unicorns inside them.

When you're in a clear frame of mind, you can look at the line drawing of the cube on the page and see that it's not a cube at all, it's just lines that give the illusion of being a cube on a flat piece of paper on your table, yet at the same time you can comprehend why it describes a 3D object that we call a cube. So that state of being is an 'ascension' from the state of being that perceived the cube as occupying a real 3D space, right?

Then, if, for example, you've been meditating regularly, and feel fantastic and well within your own skin, you can feel very light and fluid in this world, and have a sense of perception or a point of view that makes you feel very elevated, like you're above and beyond your physical body, yet also within it and part of the physical world too.

So, that's a form of ascension into a higher dimension, and that increasing state of lightening awareness (en-lightenment) is what would move you into and beyond the 3D world. But you never go anywhere or leave anything behind -- your vantage point just becomes broader and clearer and more free.

Is that what the hell you're all talking about? :p

yes and no, u will never truely experience any ascension with drugs, all u will experience is a breif look in. ascension on earth in this time period is working very differently, it is a physical ascension something which has never happened b4.:)

[size_of_light]

yes and no, u will never truely experience any ascension with drugs, all u will experience is a breif look in. ascension on earth in this time period is working very differently, it is a physical ascension something which has never happened b4.:)

The whole point I was making about being stoned (or fixating on the reality of the cube on the page in a sober state, for that matter) is that it's really a descent into a denser state of less awareness, not an ascension into a higher level of perception. There's less comprehension and understanding of reality when you're perceiving the solidity of that cube on the page.

When your perception widens though, you 'come out' of the image and see it more clearly - as a drawing on a page - without compromising your understanding of it's meaning.

That's what I'm getting at: there's a similar process of organic, expanding consciousness that repeats itself when you enjoy the fruits of regular meditation or other methods of mind/body purification too, and it can continue to be developed into higher/deeper levels of clarity and awareness without 'you' going anywhere.

There's no need to invoke 'earth changes/planetary ascension/vibrational shifts' in order to see the potential within yourself to do this, and sometimes I wonder if the whole 2012 ascension concept isn't just a serving of spiritual junk food for people who don't want to sit down and get stuck into the real meal themselves.

[krakhead]

No, just real fucking deluded! :D

Fuck it! Same result! :D

[size_of_light]

Fuck it! Same result! :D

I was thinking of your 'Private Pyle' avatar when I wrote that! :p :D

[lightblessins]

The whole point I was making about being stoned (or fixating on the reality of the cube on the page in a sober state, for that matter) is that it's really a descent into a denser state of less awareness, not an ascension into a higher level of perception. There's less comprehension and understanding of reality when you're perceiving the solidity of that cube on the page.

When your perception widens though, you 'come out' of the image and see it more clearly - as a drawing on a page - without compromising your understanding of it's meaning.

That's what I'm getting at: there's a similar process of organic, expanding consciousness that repeats itself when you enjoy the fruits of regular meditation or other methods of mind/body purification too, and it can continue to be developed into higher/deeper levels of clarity and awareness without 'you' going anywhere.

There's no need to invoke 'earth changes/planetary ascension/vibrational shifts' in order to see the potential within yourself to do this, and sometimes I think the whole 2012 ascension concept is just a bit of emotional comfort food for people who don't want to do the hard work for themselves.

if thats the case then i guess yes as you change your perception you do widen your experiences and can see something in a differnent way and different light. as for 2012 any1 who is apart of it should know its very hard work its not something you can just walk into, just because some1 knows about ascension and tells others about it, doesnt mean they will ascension, theres more to it then that, some1 with no knowldege about ascension could ascend without even knowing it, so no its not comfort food for me and any1 finds that it is, should do something about it now.peace:)

[size_of_light]

if thats the case then i guess yes as you change your perception you do widen your experiences and can see something in a differnent way and different light. as for 2012 any1 who is apart of it should know its very hard work its not something you can just walk into, just because some1 knows about ascension and tells others about it, doesnt mean they will ascension, theres more to it then that, some1 with no knowldege about ascension could ascend without even knowing it, so no its not comfort food for me and any1 finds that it is, should do something about it now.peace:)

Is it essentially the same process though? That's what I'm asking. I don't understand what '2012 ascension' means (and I know it means different things to different people). If it works differently, how does it work?

[lightblessins]

Is it essentially the same process though? That's what I'm asking. I don't understand what '2012 ascension' means (and I know it means different things to different people). If it works differently, how does it work?


yes it is the same process, the difference is, what i think your perceiving will come and go, after an ascension it will last till you die, or go else where, if you ascended you would have the conscious to do what you described at free will on anything. for most people some can change to see a new perception on things, widen their scope of vision etc through medition, drugs, emotions etc by acending you can this any time you like when ever you like, we can all lower and raise our vibrations to experience new things or things differently, but depending on your core vibration certian things will always be around, for most of us here in 3d reality it comes as, sound and light which makes up all the things we see, smell, touch etc, hope this helps.:)

[size_of_light]

yes it is the same process, the difference is, what i think your perceiving will come and go, after an ascension it will last till you die, or go else where, if you ascended you would have the conscious to do what you described at free will on anything. for most people some can change to see a new perception on things, widen their scope of vision etc through medition, drugs, emotions etc by acending you can this any time you like when ever you like, we can all lower and raise our vibrations to experience new things or things differently, but depending on your core vibration certian things will always be around, for most of us here in 3d reality it comes as, sound and light which makes up all the things we see, smell, touch etc, hope this helps.:)

Thank you :)

[dodie]

I don't read much on 'vibrational changes' or ascension and things like that, because I find most of the information ponderously esoteric and impractical, but I was just having a smoke outside and I thought of something I wanted to post to ask others if this is what they're talking about when they mention 3D reality and different dimensions etc.

If you look at a line drawing of a 3-dimensional cube on a piece of paper, (especially, in my case, if I'm stoned), you can go into the image and actually perceive it as occupying a 3-dimensional space. This isn't a deeper perception, it's a grosser, or denser perception, and a deeper level of illusion, even though it seems a bit trippy and cool. Like looking at one of those magic pictures where you deepen your focus and see 3D spaceships or unicorns inside them.

When you're in a clear frame of mind, you can look at the line drawing of the cube on the page and see that it's not a cube at all, it's just lines that give the illusion of being a cube on a flat piece of paper on your table, yet at the same time you can comprehend why it describes a 3D object that we call a cube. So that state of being is an 'ascension' from the state of being that perceived the cube as occupying a real 3D space, right?

Then, if, for example, you've been meditating regularly, and feel fantastic and well within your own skin, you can feel very light and fluid in this world, and have a sense of perception or a point of view that makes you feel very elevated, like you're above and beyond your physical body, yet also within it and part of the physical world too.

So, that's a form of ascension into a higher dimension, and that increasing state of lightening awareness (en-lightenment) is what would move you into and beyond the 3D world. But you never go anywhere or leave anything behind -- your vantage point just becomes broader and clearer and more free.

Is that what the hell you're all talking about? :p

That is spot on mate,that is how consciousness works/is/experiences.
You are merely merging with the greater consciousness,that already exists,giving you a bigger point to perceive from.

Thats why david says you are everywhere,everything, and have nothing to learn,the greater part of you already exists,its just a case of moving your perception,to that greater part.

One of the analogies, david used, was being in a room with 2 windows,one of them is small,and the other is big,you are still seeing the same landscape/scene,only you are seeing more of them through the bigger window.

And the smaller window is represented by mind/emotion/vibration/information they are spinning like a whirlpool,and the bigger window is represented by pure awareness/silence/stillness,if something is still,and you are running past them at 100 mph,then you can not merge with them,they are on a different wavelength.

That is the matrix period,you are identifying with the mirror/dna/cosmos/mind/body,they are all information/spinning,and if the pure awareness within,mistakes itself for these,it merges with them,becomes them,so you spin and your perception comes through the small window.

If you identify with the formless one within,the silence/stillness,then your dna/mind/body,begin to slow down,your perception/window gets bigger,and you start the process of merging with all that is.

[size_of_light]

That is spot on mate,that is how consciousness works/is/experiences.
You are merely merging with the greater consciousness,that already exists,giving you a bigger point to perceive from.

Thats why david says you are everywhere,everything, and have nothing to learn,the greater part of you already exists,its just a case of moving your perception,to that greater part.

One of the analogies, david used, was being in a room with 2 windows,one of them is small,and the other is big,you are still seeing the same landscape/scene,only you are seeing more of them through the bigger window.

And the smaller window is represented by mind/emotion/vibration/information they are spinning like a whirlpool,and the bigger window is represented by pure awareness/silence/stillness,if something is still,and you are running past them at 100 mph,then you can not merge with them,they are on a different wavelength.

That is the matrix period,you are identifying with the mirror/dna/cosmos/mind/body,they are all information/spinning,and if the pure awareness within,mistakes itself for these,it merges with them,becomes them,so you spin and your perception comes through the small window.

If you identify with the formless one within,the silence/stillness,then your dna/mind/body,begin to slow down,your perception/window gets bigger,and you start the process of merging with all that is.

Very useful analogies there...kudos to you and David. I hadn't heard him describe it this way before. Thanks.

[dodie]

Very useful analogies there...kudos to you and David. I hadn't heard him describe it this way before. Thanks.

Your welcome mate:)

[academylin]

Hello, I know it seems you have reached an understanding with this thread, and excuse me if I make things worse ( ie; a tad more out there.....)but........................... aren't we supposed to be aiming for the fourth and fifth dimensions? Isn't reality our 3d?

Anyone know how to draw a do dechahedron !!??!!:eek:

[size_of_light]

Hello, I know it seems you have reached an understanding with this thread, and excuse me if I make things worse ( ie; a tad more out there.....)but........................... aren't we supposed to be aiming for the fourth and fifth dimensions? Isn't reality our 3d?

Anyone know how to draw a do dechahedron !!??!!:eek:

lol...

Throw anything into the thread you like.

This kinda of 'geometry of ascension' type talk, though, is what made me ask what the hell some people are really talking about in the first place, because it doesn't seem very practical or useful to me to intellectualise about dechahedrons and fractals and whatnot, if you're planning 'lift off'.

It's interesting theory, but when I read people talking about some sort of imminent event in 2012, I wonder how they imagine this sort of information is going to be of any real benefit to them.

That's not a criticism, by the way; just a lack of understanding on my part.

[academylin]

Yeah, the shape Things don't inspire me at all either.

And I think the fifth dimension, where we are supposed to be heading is merely an astral voyage away!

Therefore, (irrational brain ennergy occuring, AGAIN!!) The ascenscion will be like experiencing a MASSIVE O.B.E.!!!

You heard it here first!
LOL! I looovvvvee THETA?!:D

[dodie]

Hello, I know it seems you have reached an understanding with this thread, and excuse me if I make things worse ( ie; a tad more out there.....)but........................... aren't we supposed to be aiming for the fourth and fifth dimensions? Isn't reality our 3d?

Anyone know how to draw a do dechahedron !!??!!:eek:

Hi mate,thats the point i am making,you already exist in all other dimensions,its a case of stop vibrating and you will merge with the consciousness that exists there.

A dechahedron is merely information it is vibrating,it is in the mirror,if you identify with this you will keep spinning,and this will disconnect you from the higher perception that already exists,and is observing you,and that awareness is stillness.

A bit like the tide disconnecting from the ocean,when it is angry[emotions],but the deeper you go it is peaceful[stillness].

I feel david is right about 2012,when he says it is just the matrix changing the programme.

It all about measurement,some say of time and space,to me that is illusion,and some say its measurement of consciousness, i say consciousness/infinity cannot be measured,still its only my opinion,enjoyed this,its good to share perceptions.:)

[dodie]

Yeah, the shape Things don't inspire me at all either.

And I think the fifth dimension, where we are supposed to be heading is merely an astral voyage away!

Therefore, (irrational brain ennergy occuring, AGAIN!!) The ascenscion will be like experiencing a MASSIVE O.B.E.!!!

You heard it here first!
LOL! I looovvvvee THETA?!:D

Lol you are spot on:D

[academylin]

Lol you are spot on:D


Theta rocks....but I really must clean the oven and pay the water bill....

One gets soooo wrapped up in altered consciousness!! (doesn't one !?):D

[dodie]

Theta rocks....but I really must clean the oven and pay the water bill....

One gets soooo wrapped up in altered consciousness!! (doesn't one !?):D

Lol clean the oven,and pay the water bill,maybe its because i am scottish or a man,but i dont understand that statement,it does'nt compute:D:rolleyes:

Anyways the oven and water bill are infinite consciousness,they can clean and pay themselves,nothing to do with me,i am just a conscious observer passing through,having a good time.:D:eek:

[academylin]

Dodie, it was me!!

I astrally projected to locale one last night and cleaned your oven for you!!

They can't clean themselves silly!

I only ever obe armed with Mr. Muscle..................You never know what you might encounter! Blocked drains, dirty windows, smelly sewers.................etc

[dodie]

Dodie, it was me!!

I astrally projected to locale one last night and cleaned your oven for you!!

They can't clean themselves silly!

I only ever obe armed with Mr. Muscle..................You never know what you might encounter! Blocked drains, dirty windows, smelly sewers.................etc

Wow thanks academylin,silly me thinking the oven was cleaning itself:D

Dont want to seem ungrateful,as i really appreciate it,but could you use something more eco/friendly than mr muscle:D, and i have noticed the water bill has not paid itself,could you deal with that asap,Oh my clothes need to wash themselves as well tonight:D:rolleyes:Ah its fab just being:rolleyes:

[academylin]

Hi mate,thats the point i am making,you already exist in all other dimensions,its a case of stop vibrating and you will merge with the consciousness that exists there.

A dechahedron is merely information it is vibrating,it is in the mirror,if you identify with this you will keep spinning,and this will disconnect you from the higher perception that already exists,and is observing you,and that awareness is stillness.

A bit like the tide disconnecting from the ocean,when it is angry[emotions],but the deeper you go it is peaceful[stillness].

I feel david is right about 2012,when he says it is just the matrix changing the programme.

It all about measurement,some say of time and space,to me that is illusion,and some say its measurement of consciousness, i say consciousness/infinity cannot be measured,still its only my opinion,enjoyed this,its good to share perceptions.:)

Actually, in all seriousness and right back on topic... Doesn't the "infinity" get measured in layers?

Well the closest bits of "infinity" anyway??

In fact anyone know their names, ie; what are the layers up to the ionosphere, and what are the layers outside of the ionosphere?

I wonder if these other vibrational worlds which we strive to become one with are merely within the "other" layers, I mean when you acheive the one consciousness you are out there somewhere aren't you....but where?

Hmm, theta is simpler to grasp!:confused:

[academylin]

And actually what do the advances in Teslar technology, in laymans terms, mean is occuring within our "bubble". I know about the radiation poisoning steming from the 70s experiment, but what about the other layers, these must be affected too?

[dodie]

Actually, in all seriousness and right back on topic... Doesn't the "infinity" get measured in layers?

Well the closest bits of "infinity" anyway??

In fact anyone know their names, ie; what are the layers up to the ionosphere, and what are the layers outside of the ionosphere?

I wonder if these other vibrational worlds which we strive to become one with are merely within the "other" layers, I mean when you acheive the one consciousness you are out there somewhere aren't you....but where?

Hmm, theta is simpler to grasp!:confused:

Yes that is the problem,if you try to coprehend or find answers within the matrix,of who you are and where you are.

On the one level ie your current 3d experience,and the other dimensions of the multi dimensional matrix,things can be measured,but that is part of infinity, not the whole,if the whole could be measured then it could not claim to be infinity,which has no beginning, and no end,and it is malleable,not set in stone like our current experience.
A grain of sand contains infinity,therefore technically,if you and i were living on the earth on that grain,you would still look the same size,and you could still measure the cosmos,the same way,or even measure a hundred metre sprint,it would still feel the same distance covered,as we would experience it,only difference is it would be completed quicker,in their measured time,because it is closer to the electron,indeed that is what is happening in our reality with the awakening,we are getting closer to the electron[center]and our sprinters are getting quicker,as is our own time.

And thats why david says if you try to grasp who you are and where you are with the mind,you will never get it,you cant record or set down on data,infinity/infinite consciousness.

Thats why i said to merge with the one is to stop spinning and identifying with the illusion=looking/searching/believing in the mirror.
Within you are the silence,then also within is the matrix creations,dna=cosmos/universe/earth/mind/body,and their job is to keep you observing reality from their observation point.

So when you identify with the silence,you realise all thev rest is just a trap to keep you at the level of the mind.

And its favourite trick is to get you pursue knolwledge in any form,books seminars,anything to keep the mind stimulatedf and looking in to the mirror,the mind/ego gets bigger and so vibrates faster disconnecting from the stillness even more.
Thats why david says you have nothing to learn, just stop spinning and you will merge with the one.

Knowlege/dna is the fall of man in density,it keeps you locked in this experience,numerology,sacred geometry ad infinitum are merely the matrix keeping you spinning.

[academylin]

Yeah, ............... ok.........but what about seeing dead people??

I'm still serious??:confused:

[dodie]

Yeah, ............... ok.........but what about seeing dead people??

I'm still serious??:confused:

Dead people,some not all,still remain in the matrix after death,remember it is multi-dimensional.

Remember when i said the matrix creations,especially the dna,where your mind/body,emanates from,well via the photons/electrical impulses the dna sends to your mind/body,which is what david refers to as human software,ie uploaded the same as a computer,well these photons are your reality.When consciousness/stillness,incarnates in to the body,the body is just a mass of vibrating energy/information/numbers,it is a virtual reality suit,and it is connected and on the same wavelength as the cosmos,in other words,when you experience a virtual reality game in the 3d world,you know the ones with goggles etc,well it comes with its own ready made world.Our world is no different the body comes with the cosmos.

Well the mind/body its job is to make you forget,you are the stillness/consciousness inside it,it wants you to start vibrating ,so you go on to the same wavelength,and then finally merge with it,then through its experiences in the 3d world[fear],it robs you of your energy.And it does this through thought and emotions,and because you also think the experience is real.

And thats why inside you have to stop spinning/resonating,to the mind/body/thought/emotions.

If you do stop spinning your mind/body,also begins to slow down,then you begin to merge firstly with the subconscious fractures that have occured within you,ie with the you that already exists in other dimensions,nd then finally you all merge as one into all that is.
,
If you do not stop spinning inside,ie awake,then when you die,you will probably remain in one of the matrixs other dimensions[though with the awakening these are also being dismantled,we are all going to awake:)].

How that works is your dna is emitting light energy to our mind/bodies,ie the software,when you die it starts to emit dark energy,in the 3d world our eyes are only programmed to see light energy,we cannot see the dark energy in this universe,and thats where the other planes of existence within the matrix are ie heaven/hell etc.

The dark energy is vibrating a lot faster,so it is not on our wavelength,and the new instructions give them a new body etc,ie someone who dies at 70,will be 21 again etc.But the key word is it is still vibrating,the people still believe it a real world,and they are usually programmed even more,and then finally reincarnate back in to this reality,where there dna [memories]are wiped clean by powerful magnetism,the exact same way a magnet can destroy a computers data[memory] here in the 3d world,and you start all over again in this reality, a big continual human battery

In this world,the stillness inside is vibrating it has become the ego,and it has fallen for the trap,that the more knowlege it gains the more awakened it is,in fact it is the very opposite,it is that knowledge/information,is the matrix,and what keeps them in the matrix,it keeps them spinning,and stops them connecting to the higher consciousness that already exists,and that they already are.

[academylin]

Dodie, your explanations are brilliant!!!

But I'm still gonna have to read them three more times!!

Thanks for your time in explaining this, pre empting the fact that my miniscule, blonde brain will process the info!!

Linx

[dodie]

Dodie, your explanations are brilliant!!!

But I'm still gonna have to read them three more times!!

Thanks for your time in explaining this, pre empting the fact that my miniscule, blonde brain will process the info!!

Linx

Thanks and your welcome:)

Ah i remember when i was blonde,now the matrix has decided i look better bald:D

Remember the trick is once you have processed the info,delete it from your computer[mind/body],it should become a knowing,rather than knowledge,as knowledge spins,and also you overload your mind/body with info[too much saved data],and you can become ill,same way a computer breaks or slows,when it is overloaded with saved data.

eric x

[beldazar]

Dead people,some not all,still remain in the matrix after death,remember it is multi-dimensional.

Remember when i said the matrix creations,especially the dna,where your mind/body,emanates from,well via the photons/electrical impulses the dna sends to your mind/body,which is what david refers to as human software,ie uploaded the same as a computer,well these photons are your reality.When consciousness/stillness,incarnates in to the body,the body is just a mass of vibrating energy/information/numbers,it is a virtual reality suit,and it is connected and on the same wavelength as the cosmos,in other words,when you experience a virtual reality game in the 3d world,you know the ones with goggles etc,well it comes with its own ready made world.Our world is no different the body comes with the cosmos.

Well the mind/body its job is to make you forget,you are the stillness/consciousness inside it,it wants you to start vibrating ,so you go on to the same wavelength,and then finally merge with it,then through its experiences in the 3d world[fear],it robs you of your energy.And it does this through thought and emotions,and because you also think the experience is real.

And thats why inside you have to stop spinning/resonating,to the mind/body/thought/emotions.

If you do stop spinning your mind/body,also begins to slow down,then you begin to merge firstly with the subconscious fractures that have occured within you,ie with the you that already exists in other dimensions,nd then finally you all merge as one into all that is.
,
If you do not stop spinning inside,ie awake,then when you die,you will probably remain in one of the matrixs other dimensions[though with the awakening these are also being dismantled,we are all going to awake:)].

How that works is your dna is emitting light energy to our mind/bodies,ie the software,when you die it starts to emit dark energy,in the 3d world our eyes are only programmed to see light energy,we cannot see the dark energy in this universe,and thats where the other planes of existence within the matrix are ie heaven/hell etc.

The dark energy is vibrating a lot faster,so it is not on our wavelength,and the new instructions give them a new body etc,ie someone who dies at 70,will be 21 again etc.But the key word is it is still vibrating,the people still believe it a real world,and they are usually programmed even more,and then finally reincarnate back in to this reality,where there dna [memories]are wiped clean by powerful magnetism,the exact same way a magnet can destroy a computers data[memory] here in the 3d world,and you start all over again in this reality, a big continual human battery

In this world,the stillness inside is vibrating it has become the ego,and it has fallen for the trap,that the more knowlege it gains the more awakened it is,in fact it is the very opposite,it is that knowledge/information,is the matrix,and what keeps them in the matrix,it keeps them spinning,and stops them connecting to the higher consciousness that already exists,and that they already are.


I will second what Lin siad! Brilliant Dodie! I put up that question only yesterday after watching David Ickes Q and A vid.

See how confused I was? lol....

anyway...back to DI's interview....Ive heard him say much of this before so its good it gets reinforced but what I havent heard him talk much about is HOW to get out of mind and into consciousness. Yees Ive heard people say meditate but my head stays busy or Im too much of an impatient/lazy cow to practise much.

Is it through imagination? I am beginning to think that 'imagination' isnt something made up but just different 'reality' scenario's and experiences. Its been very uncanny that a lot of my most favourite fantasy books contain so much of what may be what is/was occurring and unfolding .But then again...thats still MIND! If words and thoughts are part of the mind...........Im getting confused now.....lol
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Im still having waaay too much fun learning though......but if I could put it to rest after then thats ok...I will try ;)

[dodie]

I will second what Lin siad! Brilliant Dodie! I put up that question only yesterday after watching David Ickes Q and A vid.

See how confused I was? lol....



Im still having waaay too much fun learning though......but if I could put it to rest after then thats ok...I will try ;)

Thanks for that honey:).

Yeah that was definately sychronicity,working at its best for you.

And your having fun ,brilliant that is the key,as david says you are in a cosmic game boy,the minute you know its not real,and you do not take it serious,or get emotionally involved[the matrix favourite feeding energy],then everything comes in to being,at your own pace,dont try as that is the matrix,have fun,your silence has awoken,you have to do nothing now but show patience and allowance,as you allow the mind/body, to stop spinning,in their own time,you are no longer experiencing reality as thought and emotion,they are no longer driving/in charge of your car/mind/body/experiences.
You are merely observing them like your children,watching them spin[playing],making sure they dont get up to mischief[ie pull you back in to the matrix,through anger etc],and as you no longer feed them your energy,and they also notice how peaceful your energy field is,compared to their one of turmoil,well like children they will come home to the arms of their mother,they will stop spinning,and merge with the silence,and then all will be one/nothingness:).

[beldazar]

Thankyou Dodie, another lovely post. :)

I have started to detach a bit more day by day (perhaps not when the BBC push vaccinations though...long story)

the other day it seems that everything was going wrong, I was getting more and more frustrated until I stepped back and realised that it was all part of the game, I then laughed, if it was ME creating it or just part of the matrix, it didnt matter. Everything lifted!

I had heard on one site a while back that this is just a game but we wont understand that but Im starting to. With the research I have done looking at the different aspects from structures, symbolisms, synchronicities, ancient 'history' it cant be anything else. I realise this is still 'mind' at play but its the first time in my life I have ever had such a desire to learn!

So would the key be to embrace the learning but to remain detached form it?

[dodie]

Thankyou Dodie, another lovely post. :)

I have started to detach a bit more day by day (perhaps not when the BBC push vaccinations though...long story)

the other day it seems that everything was going wrong, I was getting more and more frustrated until I stepped back and realised that it was all part of the game, I then laughed, if it was ME creating it or just part of the matrix, it didnt matter. Everything lifted!

I had heard on one site a while back that this is just a game but we wont understand that but Im starting to. With the research I have done looking at the different aspects from structures, symbolisms, synchronicities, ancient 'history' it cant be anything else. I realise this is still 'mind' at play but its the first time in my life I have ever had such a desire to learn!

So would the key be to embrace the learning but to remain detached form it?

Your awakening is happening within,beyond mind,and it is going to happen fully whether you understand it or not.
Some people dont have to understand it,but for others,it helps them to soothe and explain to the mind,what is happening to it as it awakens,for when it experiences things it used to think were supernatural etc.
The information is not awakening you,as i said it is beyond mind/information,but it does act as a comfort blanket to your children/mind/body/thoughts/emotions.

If you take the info as neutral, then as david says,nothing is good or evil,it just is,or as tolle says,there is no good or bad,an experience just is,then you will just accept what you are experiencing in the moment of now,which means you stay neutral,not getting emotionally involved,so you dont vibrate, you dont take a side,and you dont give away your energy from within,this is what the matrix is after,and it will use all the knowledge it has acainst you,your pet hates,your most loved ones,like your children over vaccinations.

Remember,the photons emitted from dna,contain infinite possabilities,reality is constructed the same way a film is,it may look like one film,but its actually millions of slices put together,so is reality,every second in those photons you receive,the matrix knows this,so if it can get you to emotionally react to the vaccinations,then it not only gets fed,but it knows you will pull the reality to you from the photons,that you fear most ie your kids will get vaccinated,the low vibrations,this gets you more emotional,and you are now locked in the matrix[vicious circle].
If you dont react,you will not feed it, and you will pull a better reality from the photons,ie your kids wont get the jags.

Remember you always create in the moment of now,thats why it wants you to be constantly regretting the past, and fearing the future,it does not want you tro recognise the now,where your real creative power is,it is always the now that determines the photon/reality you will experience,thats why it is never too late,to change anything in your reality,the past[former now] is gone,and the now creates your present,and future[a now thats yet to be].

[beldazar]

Hi Dodie, yes I understand these concepts but putting them into action is a little difficult sometimes.....

(Like my sig by the way? as soon as I saw it in DI's book I loved it, it hepls me to UNDERSTAND ;))

As for Tolle...concepts great if you have problems but I couldnt even complete his book, wasnt right for me.
I like to remember my past, where I have come from, what I have learnt etc....
I feel the trick is to turn negative thoughts about the past and future into positive ones, not to just neutralise them. Its easily enough done but with (yet again) using the MIND. This needs to be worked through thoroughly or you could be in danger of blanketing them so they will still be there.

Im not worried about my own children being vaccinated, hell would freeze over first :mad:, its the other children...... And yes 'where your thoughts go, your energy flows' is something I understand too, Im learning to disconnect ;)

Im not a worrier and I have no regrets, anger is my issue at times which I understand is another branch of fear anyway but when I look back to how I used to be and how I am now, Im a totally different person :D

[dodie]

Hi Dodie, yes I understand these concepts but putting them into action is a little difficult sometimes.....

(Like my sig by the way? as soon as I saw it in DI's book I loved it, it hepls me to UNDERSTAND ;))

As for Tolle...concepts great if you have problems but I couldnt even complete his book, wasnt right for me.
I like to remember my past, where I have come from, what I have learnt etc....
I feel the trick is to turn negative thoughts about the past and future into positive ones, not to just neutralise them. Its easily enough done but with (yet again) using the MIND. This needs to be worked through thoroughly or you could be in danger of blanketing them so they will still be there.

Im not worried about my own children being vaccinated, hell would freeze over first :mad:, its the other children...... And yes 'where your thoughts go, your energy flows' is something I understand too, Im learning to disconnect ;)

Im not a worrier and I have no regrets, anger is my issue at times which I understand is another branch of fear anyway but when I look back to how I used to be and how I am now, Im a totally different person :D

Yes i understand what your saying about the past,but thats the point,you did not come from there,you came from beyond the physical,and still do,to identify with the past,your name,your experiences,your race,gender,nationality,ad infinitum is to identify with the illusion,all matrix creations[the imposter,the actor in the movie,the ego,the stillness that is vibrating].What you have learned as i stated before is information,it is the matrix,it only keeps you spinning,and is not awakenig you,it either brings comfort,or if you believe the info is real or required,you resonate to it,and it actually traps you in the matrix.

To make your memories[stored data],positive is still imbalance,that was one of the best points david made in infinite love,to be positive is imbalance, to be negative is imbalance,the trick is to merge the polarities together,there they become neutral[stillness].

But it truly does not matter,what state of being,we prefer at the moment,as i said,the awakening will happen fully,no matter what we believe at the moment,all that matters just now is we are having fun, and not taking life too seriously,and exchanging good perceptions to each other,and you can sense the love energy is strong on this thread,i am enjoyng it,and thats the main thing.

And hopefully get to meet up at one of the meet ups soon:).

[beldazar]

Ah well that could be good news then Dodie! that would only work for me on a variety of subjects though, not just the one, lol!
:)

[dodie]

Ah well that could be good news then Dodie! that would only work for me on a variety of subjects though, not just the one, lol!
:)

Lol,as long as it works:D