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morjo
02-02-2009, 11:41 AM
I've only just begun in the last month or so getting into David Icke's information of the Illuminati and Reptilians. I've started to read the biggest secret slowly as there is a lot to take in, but something I don't understand is why do these reptilians or non reptilians want to control the humans, and why do they want to destroy this planet in the process?

It seems hard to comprehend that they are just doing this for the fun of it.

Thanks

marpat
02-02-2009, 02:23 PM
The evidence that these reptiles exist is so thin I would doubt they even do exist.

astrochicken
02-02-2009, 03:10 PM
The evidence that these reptiles exist is so thin I would doubt they even do exist.

I'm with marpat.. till i come face to face with one, i'll pass the reptiles off as being an intelligent ploy to prevent being "suicided".

The other 99,99% is bang on the money.

takhisis
02-02-2009, 05:16 PM
The evidence that these reptiles exist is so thin I would doubt they even do exist.

kind of like jesus eh;)

fuck_the_nwo
02-02-2009, 05:44 PM
Hi first post on here I have come to the conclusion that alot of people are pretty deranged esp people that claim to be one :eek:

but still no offence ment and peace and love to all serious Beaming Love all around !!!

and yeah FUCK THE NWO!!!!



Need to see some proof yes seeing is believing to us humble Human types one exception is christ though half the world seems set on blind faith :rolleyes:

marpat
02-02-2009, 05:50 PM
kind of like jesus eh;)


Exactly

rhydra
02-02-2009, 08:27 PM
Hi first post on here I have come to the conclusion that alot of people are pretty deranged esp people that claim to be one :eek:

but still no offence ment and peace and love to all serious Beaming Love all around !!!

and yeah FUCK THE NWO!!!!



Need to see some proof yes seeing is believing to us humble Human types one exception is christ though half the world seems set on blind faith :rolleyes:

Hi and welcome! If you don't want deranged people this might not be the place for you. Stick around though, and you will be as deranged as the rest of us. ;)

tusme
02-02-2009, 08:45 PM
I've only just begun in the last month or so getting into David Icke's information of the Illuminati and Reptilians. I've started to read the biggest secret slowly as there is a lot to take in, but something I don't understand is why do these reptilians or non reptilians want to control the humans, and why do they want to destroy this planet in the process?

It seems hard to comprehend that they are just doing this for the fun of it.

Thanks
Hi Morjo,

Welcome...!!

They want to control us because they're "luciferian"...thus, their agenda is all about harvesting energy!!

And it's this (harvested) energy, which gives them a sense of power and indeed, the desire for more control...!!

Hope this helped...?

Cheers

marpat
02-02-2009, 08:52 PM
Hi Morjo,

Welcome...!!

They want to control us because they're "luciferian"...thus, their agenda is all about harvesting energy!!

And it's this (harvested) energy, which gives them a sense of power and indeed, the desire for more control...!!

Hope this helped...?

Cheers

Can you harvest such energy though? the definition of energy is 'work done' and implies a force or pressure applied to something.

tusme
02-02-2009, 09:46 PM
Can you harvest such energy though? the definition of energy is 'work done' and implies a force or pressure applied to something.
Of-course...!! Harvested energy is potential energy...!!

Btw, as far as human energy goes, they're quite indescriminate about harvesting such energy...positive or negative energy, they will have the lot...!!

As I've said, it's all about Power & Control...!!

marpat
02-02-2009, 09:56 PM
Of-course...!! Harvested energy is potential energy...!!

Btw, as far as human energy goes, they're quite indescriminate about harvesting such energy...positive or negative energy, they will have the lot...!!

As I've said, it's all about Power & Control...!!

But is not positive energy against their nature? would exposure to such force not begin to convert them?

Potential energy? and how is that going to be stored?

lordreptoid
02-02-2009, 11:48 PM
Btw, as far as human energy goes, they're quite indescriminate about harvesting such energy...positive or negative energy, they will have the lot...!!

Become a Buddhist - be nothing, do nothing, seek nothing to achieve or change in the world, nothing worth siphoning then. ;) Yea, we win!... or do we?

tusme
02-02-2009, 11:57 PM
But is not positive energy against their nature? would exposure to such force not begin to convert them?

Potential energy? and how is that going to be stored?
Because of their nature (opposing Truth), differentiating between positive and negative energies is not an easy task...thus, all harvested energy will do...!!

Only Truth Energy is capable of converting them...but that is through them acknowledging the Truth Energy and using it to complete that conversion...

Good question...potential energy, in their form, cannot be stored...!! Hence, their greed...to continuously harvest energy!!

tusme
03-02-2009, 12:12 AM
Become a Buddhist - be nothing, do nothing, seek nothing to achieve or change in the world, nothing worth siphoning then. ;) Yea, we win!... or do we?
Become Truth - your only purpose to this existence...!! ;) :)

shenoma
03-02-2009, 12:41 AM
Isn't everything energy anyways? So, I believe it's about the control over such energy called life. That is what their aim is.:cool:

Because of their nature (opposing Truth), differentiating between positive and negative energies is not an easy task...thus, all harvested energy will do...!!

Only Truth Energy is capable of converting them...but that is through them acknowledging the Truth Energy and using it to complete that conversion...

Good question...potential energy, in their form, cannot be stored...!! Hence, their greed...to continuously harvest energy!!

tusme
03-02-2009, 12:58 AM
Isn't everything energy anyways? So, I believe it's about the control over such energy called life. That is what their aim is.:cool:
Hi Shenoma,

Indeed, everything is energy...!!

While I agree, it's about the control over such energy...Truth is, it's a whole lot more than merely an energy called Life...!!

To achieve their (illusionary) goals, they have many aims...!! :)

Cheers

shenoma
03-02-2009, 01:04 AM
Creed of the mighty Few:
we are the brotherhood.
we are the greater good.
we the few administer power and knowledge to control the many.
we guide the religions and politicians for the good of humanity.
we are enlightened and see all.
we pursue collective enhancement and gain to maintain power.
we take any means necessary to pursue these our goals.

Hi Shenoma,

Indeed, everything is energy...!!

While I agree, it's about the control over such energy...Truth is, it's a whole lot more than merely an energy called Life...!!

To achieve their (illusionary) goals, they have many aims...!! :)

Cheers

tusme
03-02-2009, 01:17 AM
Creed of the mighty Few:
we are the brotherhood.
we are the greater good.
we the few administer power and knowledge to control the many.
we guide the religions and politicians for the good of humanity.
we are enlightened and see all.
we pursue collective enhancement and gain to maintain power.
we take any means necessary to pursue these our goals.
Hi Shenoma,

I often sit and wonder whether these "mighty few" ever think how Truth fits into all their "illuminated" plans...!? :eek: :D

Hmm, obviously not...!! :)

Cheers

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 01:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lordreptoid View Post
Become a Buddhist - be nothing, do nothing, seek nothing to achieve or change in the world, nothing worth siphoning then. Yea, we win!... or do we?
Become Truth - your only purpose to this existence...!!

I was being sarcastic to make a point about this theory that ALL energy "good and bad" is stolen by "evil reptoids" or "The Illuminati" or what not. That kind of black/black thinking bothers me for some odd reason. Wonder why... Oh yeah, it's lower than black/white thinking where at least there's two extremes to chose from and that's it.

Is that too honest?

When I ask for advice from someone, it arrives in the form of a question and usually tends to start with "I could use your advice on something..." - otherwise I'm just sitting back and watching the new age merry-go-round.

shenoma
03-02-2009, 01:38 AM
I can't honestly know what they think or anyone else for that matter. What I believe is whatever lays behind our understanding It, they are just playing their own choosen parts out like all of us humans are. I choose not to worry about It.

Hi Shenoma,

I often sit and wonder whether these "mighty few" ever think how Truth fits into all their "illuminated" plans...!? :eek: :D

Hmm, obviously not...!! :)

Cheers

tusme
03-02-2009, 01:43 AM
I was being sarcastic to make a point about this theory that ALL energy "good and bad" is stolen by "evil reptoids" or "The Illuminati" or what not. That kind of black/black thinking bothers me for some odd reason. Wonder why... Oh yeah, it's lower than black/white thinking where at least there's two extremes to chose from and that's it.

Is that too honest?
Hi Lordreptoid,

From a Physical realm perspective, it helps being able to distinguish the difference between the 2 main types of energy, ie, positive and negative energy...

However, in the Spiritual (Truth) realm, all energies exists in perfect unison with the Whole...thus, there is no such thing as, black/black or black/white thinking...

So, adopt a Spiritual (Truth) realm understanding, then nothing about the Physical realm, will ever bother you again...! ;)

Hope that helped...!? :)

Cheers

tusme
03-02-2009, 02:01 AM
I can't honestly know what they think or anyone else for that matter. What I believe is whatever lays behind our understanding It, they are just playing their own choosen parts out like all of us humans are. I choose not to worry about It.
Hi Shenoma,

Well, through knowing and being Truth, it will especially help to know what they're thinking/planning, more importantly, enlighthen us with the answers/response to their thinking/plans...!!

I don't have a problem with them "playing their chosen parts"...however, if it pertains to mine and your enslavement, then, I'm afraid it is a very big problem...!!

I respect your choice, re, not worrying about it...imho, that only serves their purpose...unfortunately. :)

Cheers

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 02:16 AM
Wow, ASSumptions galore from this one! If you tell them you are not asking for their advice they just offer more and more and keep winking and smiling and winking and smiling in a passive-aggressive way as they CORRECT you and make even more ASSumptions... Is this thread a new age haven for a new age preacher? With this one EVERYTHING is energy, both good and bad, and having ANYTHING to do with EITHER energy means your are siphoned by "bad reptilians" but sitting and doing nothing (no energy at all) is "bad" too... so whatever you do you'll be judged as "bad" by this person... does anyone else here sense a TRICK being played or am I the only smart one here to notice this new age contradiction? No matter what you say to this one it'll be preached over you'll be corrected shortly - prepare yourselves.

"Why do they want to control us?"... *shakes his head* Why do certain teenagers go on the internet and cause trouble everywhere they show up? Obviously they get something from it, but only from the weak and (dare I suggest) the cowardly and contradictory (unaware/asleep). Oh, I sense more preaching on the way...

Well to each their own - laugh it up until you snuff it. *shrugs* Be food if you want. Free will universe after all.

shenoma
03-02-2009, 02:23 AM
It, I mean god or whatever you want to called It, frou-frou my friend. I just not going to worry about IT.
frou-frou

1. Fussy or showy dress or ornamentation.
2. A rustling sound, as of silk.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/frou-frou

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=1
Hi Shenoma,

Well, through knowing and being Truth, it will especially help to know what they're thinking/planning, more importantly, enlighthen us with the answers/response to their thinking/plans...!!

I don't have a problem with them "playing their chosen parts"...however, if it pertains to mine and your enslavement, then, I'm afraid it is a very big problem...!!

I respect your choice, re, not worrying about it...imho, that only serves their purpose...unfortunately. :)

Cheers

tusme
03-02-2009, 11:17 AM
Wow, ASSumptions galore from this one! If you tell them you are not asking for their advice they just offer more and more and keep winking and smiling and winking and smiling in a passive-aggressive way as they CORRECT you and make even more ASSumptions... Is this thread a new age haven for a new age preacher? With this one EVERYTHING is energy, both good and bad, and having ANYTHING to do with EITHER energy means your are siphoned by "bad reptilians" but sitting and doing nothing (no energy at all) is "bad" too... so whatever you do you'll be judged as "bad" by this person... does anyone else here sense a TRICK being played or am I the only smart one here to notice this new age contradiction? No matter what you say to this one it'll be preached over you'll be corrected shortly - prepare yourselves.

"Why do they want to control us?"... *shakes his head* Why do certain teenagers go on the internet and cause trouble everywhere they show up? Obviously they get something from it, but only from the weak and (dare I suggest) the cowardly and contradictory (unaware/asleep). Oh, I sense more preaching on the way...

Well to each their own - laugh it up until you snuff it. *shrugs* Be food if you want. Free will universe after all.
Hi Lordreptoid,

:D ->-> "new age haven for a new age preacher"? <-<- :D

Is that the new tag you (& your ilk) ASSume for those who speak Truth...!? :confused:

As for your highlighted text...hmm, I'm no scientist of-course, but it seems you obviously know very little about "ENERGY"...!? :(

I think I'm wasting my time debating you...:)...however, if I am wrong, may I suggest you read some of my previous posts/comments...!?

I will guarentee you won't find anything "new age", because I don't even know what "new age" means...not interested either, tbh!

Furthermore, when I make ASSumptions, I own up to it and apologise for my error of judgement...!! :)

Now, I hate seeing people making an ASS of themselves, when you've stopped doing so, we can resume our debate again...OK!? ;) :)

Otherwise, I agree, each to their own...and a free-will universe, indeed it is...!!

Ti's a shame, though, if we refuse to know how that free-will universe existed before entering this Physical realm...! :eek: :)

Cheers

tusme
03-02-2009, 11:26 AM
It, I mean god or whatever you want to called It, frou-frou my friend. I just not going to worry about IT.
frou-frou

1. Fussy or showy dress or ornamentation.
2. A rustling sound, as of silk.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/frou-frou

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=1 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=1)

Hi Shenoma,

:D frou-frou...!? Hmm, I'm laughing co's I haven't a clue...!? :D

In the beginning there was Truth...and Truth is GOD.

Sorry I cannot provide you with any references/links...but you and indeed, your Spirit, imho, would suffice...!! ;)

Cheers

tusme
03-02-2009, 11:45 AM
frou-frou means:
1. Fussy or showy dress or ornamentation.
2. A rustling sound, as of silk.
A rustling, esp. the rustling of a woman's dress.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/frou-frou

In the beginning was the Word (frou frou sound) and the Word (frou frou sound) was with God, and the Word(frou frou sound) was God (frou frou sound).

So, the sound of a woman's dress is god, and my point is this: the most basic things in life are GOD.
Hmm, frou-frou sounds like more "divide & conquer", to me...!?

siphon880di
03-02-2009, 12:03 PM
I'm trying to understand. So you believe in the beginning a sound was rustled, and then there was light?

And that light and the sound was God? It always had been and always was? A quart hitting another quart at the quantum level has to make noises because they collide, and they hold matter together. Light is made up of photons, so guess what they're particles just like quarts are, and hence light makes sounds.

Any energy exchange potentially releases either heat or sound, but heat also affects sound because is affects the volume of matter, shifting molecules further or closer - these molecules grind against the fabric of reality. And in the other dimensions, energy exchanges also release sounds, so we hear stuff in the astral realm.

Space is actually fabric material and gravity space orbits conform to this fabric:
http://mysite.verizon.net/rogmios/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/spacecurve.jpg

Molecules expanding and contracting in space grinds against this fabric and makes sounds that we cannot hear. This fabric exists and it's what taught at school. Even Nasa admits it is plausible (Newtonʼs Gravity or Curved Spacetime): science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/images/gpb/vip_lithos-2.pdf

They call it curved spacetime because depending on how the fabric is bent, time and space in that curve changes. We are experiencing time as it is right now because of where our solar system is.

Rather curious a concept this is: Do you know that the reason why you drop a ball and it makes sound is because energy is released? And do you know that some energy being released from energy exchanges is because of entrophy. Not everything can sustain itself for too long. My professor, who has background in physics and biology, believes the universe is slowly dying because sound and heat is always being emitted as extra energy that can't be used anymore. Eventually no energy exist to hold the Universe together. I think it's energy in the physical world going back into the other dimensions. Perhaps there's a way for the energy to come back into this world, or that the physical world is only a temporary place for sentient beings to reside in.

morjo
03-02-2009, 12:18 PM
Thanks for the info, now if they weren't Reptilians and lets say a group of humans controlling the world, what would be their reason for control of humans in the manner we see?

Thanks

tusme
03-02-2009, 01:32 PM
I'm trying to understand. So you believe in the beginning a sound was rustled, and then there was light?

And that light and the sound was God? It always had been and always was? A quart hitting another quart at the quantum level has to make noises because they collide, and they hold matter together. Light is made up of photons, so guess what they're particles just like quarts are, and hence light makes sounds.

Any energy exchange potentially releases either heat or sound, but heat also affects sound because is affects the volume of matter, shifting molecules further or closer - these molecules grind against the fabric of reality. And in the other dimensions, energy exchanges also release sounds, so we hear stuff in the astral realm.

Space is actually fabric material and gravity space orbits conform to this fabric:
http://mysite.verizon.net/rogmios/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/spacecurve.jpg

Molecules expanding and contracting in space grinds against this fabric and makes sounds that we cannot hear. This fabric exists and it's what taught at school. Even Nasa admits it is plausible (Newtonʼs Gravity or Curved Spacetime): science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/images/gpb/vip_lithos-2.pdf

They call it curved spacetime because depending on how the fabric is bent, time and space in that curve changes. We are experiencing time as it is right now because of where our solar system is.

Rather curious a concept this is: Do you know that the reason why you drop a ball and it makes sound is because energy is released? And do you know that some energy being released from energy exchanges is because of entrophy. Not everything can sustain itself for too long. My professor, who has background in physics and biology, believes the universe is slowly dying because sound and heat is always being emitted as extra energy that can't be used anymore. Eventually no energy exist to hold the Universe together. I think it's energy in the physical world going back into the other dimensions. Perhaps there's a way for the energy to come back into this world, or that the physical world is only a temporary place for sentient beings to reside in.
Hi Siphon...

Not sure who your post was directed at...? I'd be happy to offer a response though...

At the beginning there was only Truth...only then did the Physical realm and everything else within it, come into existence...

A quart on it's own, at the quantum level, possesses it's own unique vibrational frequency...thus, when a quart collides with another quart, it surely too would possess it's own unique vibrational frequency...

Btw, the noise that you hear at the point of collision, is actually the audible vibrational frequency...

Even a mere thought is energy, therefore, any bit of light (with all it's photons) too, is energy...

Again, I'm no scientist...I'm inclined to agree, re, "any energy exchange potentially releases either heat or sound, but heat also affects sound because is affects the volume of matter, shifting molecules further or closer - these molecules grind against the fabric of reality." However, in the Spiritual realm/dimension (cannot speak for the other dimensions), its not necessarily a required component to establish Truth...it is these types conditions which quantum mechanics struggles with the most...!

As for, "Space is actually fabric material and gravity space orbits conform to this fabric:" ...and your diagram.

Even here too, I would be inclined to agree with you...the reality is, whatever conclusion you or I come to, re, space and it's fabric material & it's relation to gravity...they're all essentially Physical realm conditions...thus, only vibrate at a physical realm frequency...or only produce a Physical realm conclusion...

The "curved spacetime" theory makes very good sense...!!

I agree, the reason a "dropped ball makes a sound is because energy is released"...however, it's the frequency at which that released energy vibrates, is what really matters...No!?

Only Truth Energy can sustain itself...(or vibrate) for an eternity. With all due respect to your professor, perhaps you should suggest s/he should study Truth...!? :D

Truth Energy (in both the Spiritual and Physical realms) is the only energy which existed at the "beginning", if ever there was a beginning...so while it may be possible to calculate the different types of energies within the Physical realm, calculating the (Spiritual realm) Truth Energy is absolutely impossible...!!

Otherwise, I would say, Truth Energy is the only energy with the capabilities to "come back" into this world...that said, who's to say it actually left in the first pace...!? :)

Anyway, thanks for the physics lesson...;) I'll be honest, I never actually done physics as a subject at school neither at a tertiary level...I bet you could tell...!? :D

Cheers

tusme
03-02-2009, 01:45 PM
I believe in relooking at the basic things in life again, and trying not to miss anything, was my only point. The sound of your lover taking her dress off, is the sound of god.:p


"that the physical world is only a temporary place for sentient beings to reside in." Enjoy your life, is my believe.

Hi Shenoma,

Good philosophy...!! ;) :D Only problem though, what if I didn't have a lover to take off her dress...!? :confused: :)

I agree, the physical world is indeed a temporary place (for sentient beings)...it's those, not so sentient beings that one has to be on the look out for though...for it is they who threaten our very sentience & existence...!!

And the way to defend oneself against such "threats", is not a frou-frou god...but Truth, actually!! :D

Cheers

tusme
03-02-2009, 02:58 PM
You always have a lover, and the greatest one of all times, your self. Take of your pants there you go. Well, truth to me is the frou frou god. Gain knowledge of the sound of this world and beyond, and to know your self there you go. Power to the self, and self love. Master of masturbation.:D
http://www.thothweb.com/content-466.html

A typical frou-frou god, you are...!! :D

Hmm, it makes sense, your choice not to worry... :)

fuck_the_nwo
03-02-2009, 05:42 PM
Become a Buddhist - be nothing, do nothing, seek nothing to achieve or change in the world, nothing worth siphoning then. ;) Yea, we win!... or do we?


No man thats called smoking weed :)

siphon880di
03-02-2009, 06:02 PM
No man thats called smoking weed :)

That's weird. My username was used. I don't smoke weed.

fuck_the_nwo
03-02-2009, 06:42 PM
That's weird. My username was used. I don't smoke weed.


Passive smoker ?

No sorry his description of a Buddhist sounded like some one who smokes to me any ways


peace and love all round :)

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 08:42 PM
Buddhism is learning how to "switch off", much like weed, good analogy. Seems there's a few on this list who know something about that. The point is, according to that poster, you can't win by sending love or any other "kind of energy" and so I was making a point about doing nothing as the only other alternative, logically, and where does that lead any great spiritual people? To TIBET! And we all know how much the Chinese love Tibet. ;) Does that clear the picture up a little better for others to get it now?

tusme
03-02-2009, 09:12 PM
Buddhism is learning how to "switch off", much like weed, good analogy. Seems there's a few on this list who know something about that. The point is, according to that poster, you can't win by sending love or any other "kind of energy" and so I was making a point about doing nothing as the only other alternative, logically, and where does that lead any great spiritual people? To TIBET! And we all know how much the Chinese love Tibet. ;) Does that clear the picture up a little better for others to get it now?
Hi Lordreptoid,

I suppose, "that poster" as being me...:eek: or is that yet another ASSumption on my part...!? :)

You know what...I wish people would stop seeing the situation from a win/lose perspective...!?

Co's if that is the case, whatever it is you "send", they will simply ASSume that position as their own and thereby hand it to you as the solution...in which case, they still maintain their position as slave-masters...and still as the apex of the pyramid!!

With Truth Energy, however, that is not possible...!! ;)

Cheers

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 09:28 PM
Hi Lordreptoid,

I suppose, "that poster" as being me... or is that yet another ASSumption on my part...!?

You know what...I wish people would stop seeing the situation from a win/lose perspective...!?

Co's if that is the case, whatever it is you "send", they will simply ASSume that position as their own and thereby hand it to you as the solution...in which case, they still maintain their position as slave-masters...and still as the apex of the pyramid!!

With Truth Energy, however, that is not possible...!!

Cheers
__________________
TRUTH...not mine!

See, I told you I'd be "corrected", you can't win against new age order contradictory logic. No matter what any of us say this one has an answer for everything and it's about us being corrected. Where have we seen this pattern before in politics and world government? Icke warns us about people who constantly tell us "you're wrong, here's what you need to do...". Damn this is an easy one to bust wide open, no matter how many flowery pretty words you toss about, the core remains the same. Positivity = bad for us, good for "them", Negativity = bad for us, good for "them", do nothing = bad for us, good for "them", etc, etc, etc. Blah blah. Get it yet people? You're being brainwashed into COMPLACENCY by the new age order. Yikes.

PROOF: David Icke's books where he describes and references assorted works by scientists on the "love vibration" (IE: Dr. Emoto, etc) and how IMPORTANT it is to USE that for the greater good... so this BULLSHIT about love being bad is a TRICK! Don't follow ANYONE who says such Orwellian double-speak!

tusme
03-02-2009, 10:05 PM
See, I told you I'd be "corrected", you can't win against new age order contradictory logic. No matter what any of us say this one has an answer for everything and it's about us being corrected. Where have we seen this pattern before in politics and world government? Icke warns us about people who constantly tell us "you're wrong, here's what you need to do...". Damn this is an easy one to bust wide open, no matter how many flowery pretty words you toss about, the core remains the same. Positivity = bad for us, good for "them", Negativity = bad for us, good for "them", do nothing = bad for us, good for "them", etc, etc, etc. Blah blah. Get it yet people? You're being brainwashed into COMPLACENCY by the new age order. Yikes.
Hmm, seems you're the dab-hand...not simply satisfied with only brainwashing others but your reverse-psychology is pretty obvious too, actually!? :D

And, using David Icke is a clear indication who the real trickster is...!! ;)

Good Luck!!

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 10:08 PM
tusme, you are hereby ignored and banned for being on report to the moderators for abuse against me (personal attacks) and your agreement to be here in the first place. TOS/AUP. I am not falling for this new age order double-speak, never have, never will. try seducing someone else into it, there's plenty others to chose from. Dr. Emoto's work is SOLID and Icke agrees! Ask him yourself. Love kicks ass and doesn't have to take crap from anyone. HA! Bye bye.

tusme
03-02-2009, 10:23 PM
tusme, you are hereby ignored and banned for being on report to the moderators for abuse against me (personal attacks) and your agreement to be here in the first place. TOS/AUP. I am not falling for this new age order double-speak, never have, never will. try seducing someone else into it, there's plenty others to chose from. Dr. Emoto's work is SOLID and Icke agrees! Ask him yourself. Love kicks ass and doesn't have to take crap from anyone. HA! Bye bye.
Abuse!? Personal Attacks!? :eek:

I've recently passed a 1000 posts and have never felt the need to abuse or resort to any form of personal attacks...why on Earth should I start doing it now...!? :confused:

Take it easy, Lordreptoid ;)

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 11:45 PM
whatever it is you "send", they will simply ASSume that position as their own and thereby hand it to you as the solution...in which case, they still maintain their position as slave-masters...and still as the apex of the pyramid!!

Paraphrase: "Whatever you do it's no good. And doing nothing is also bad."

I merely pointed out this flawed logic and make scientific references to support the research to the contrary along with David Icke's books. Dr. Emoto.

I do not ignore someone's views and then belittle them with winky faces and "suggest" they "lighten up" because I'm correct and they are "incorrect". Only passive-aggressive people pull stuff like that when their arguments are busted wide open. Perhaps it took someone as clear about that as me to even spot the flaw and demonstrate how incorrect it is with proven evidence and independent research. Love is powerful, beam love as often as possible and don't listen to those who say otherwise, they are attempting to stop the love vibration. Know them by their fruits.

And thanks for that link, Shenoma... although few got it when they read the AUP/TOS here, so I doubt they'll get it reading that link either unfortunately.

Edit: how about a little fair play turn around? "Take it easy, tusme." *WINKS and smiles at you*

tusme
03-02-2009, 11:59 PM
If you are unsure how to debate a stated opinion, these general guidelines will help show what not to do.

http://www.truthtree.com/debates.shtml
"Unsure how to debate a stated opinion"...!? :confused:

Thought the OP (of this thread) asked the question, "Why do they want to control us?"

Hmm, perhaps those "general guidelines will help show what to do"... :D

tusme
04-02-2009, 12:47 AM
Paraphrase: "Whatever you do it's no good. And doing nothing is also bad."

I merely pointed out this flawed logic and make scientific references to support the research to the contrary along with David Icke's books. Dr. Emoto.

I do not ignore someone's views and then belittle them with winky faces and "suggest" they "lighten up" because I'm correct and they are "incorrect". Only passive-aggressive people pull stuff like that when their arguments are busted wide open. Perhaps it took someone as clear about that as me to even spot the flaw and demonstrate how incorrect it is with proven evidence and independent research. Love is powerful, beam love as often as possible and don't listen to those who say otherwise, they are attempting to stop the love vibration. Know them by their fruits.

And thanks for that link, Shenoma... although few got it when they read the AUP/TOS here, so I doubt they'll get it reading that link either unfortunately.

Edit: how about a little fair play turn around? "Take it easy, tusme." *WINKS and smiles at you*
Hi Lordreptoid,

I'm pleased to see you've not given up on me...!? :D

These are your words, "Whatever you do is no good, And doing nothing is also bad"...so, how could you direct your logic & criticism at me...!? :confused:

I haven't a clue who Dr. Emoto. is...!? And neither, do I care to know who the person is...!!

The OP asked a question...and I offered an answer!

What have you offered...!? Sarcasm and referring to me as "this one", and now, a Dr Emoto... Don't worry, I'll ignore the fact you even quoted DI to further your stance...whatever that is...!?

I'm sorry if you see my responses as "passive aggression"...it is not intended that way, I can assure you!!

If you think you've "busted my arguments wide open", then, fine...I don't have a problem with that...but accusing someone of abuse and personal attacks, which clearly wasn't the case, is not fair...to say the least!?

Otherwise, my message is simply, Truth... And if your's is Love, then good for you...!!

I don't suppose you're interested in debating the Truth & Love...so we'll just have to leave at that...!! ;)

Cheers