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takhisis
02-02-2009, 02:04 AM
Courious to know people say there are good reps an bad ones well i have a couple questions not bashing , just mainly wondering for my own knowledge

1. Main question what purpose do the reptailians play into humanity? good and bad Rep's

2. If there are good reptilians on earth , then why not use your advanced techonology to help people , help humanity i mean if your so advanced and "good" ? Specially if you live here then you should be equally concerned about the planet

thats about it thank you in advance if you answer my questions honestly i am just wondering for my own mind , i am pretty open to almost everything in the world , i dont just beleve in one thing i base my opions on facts and evidance i collect not what the government or relegions of the world tell me to think.

rhydra
02-02-2009, 02:24 AM
I feel it's best at the moment to observe, I have no means of "helping" other than giving ideas and moral support if it is needed or required.
I live on this planet so my future is now mixed with your futures, I don't know if I'll be able to return or whether my fate is now to return here or not so, probably selfishly, I feel it is also in my interests to ensure that the planet we reside on is livable for the future.

Am I good or am I bad, well, that depends on what your motives are and how you perceive good or bad, I feel that I am neither, I like to believe that I am neutral and care for the best outcome for the long term.

I hope that was helpful. Regards, Rhydra.

sabre1
02-02-2009, 05:17 AM
As much as I want ETs to come out and help, we have to learn to do stuff ourselves as a race. The reason why we are in the trouble that we are in is probably because people don't want to take responsibility of their lives.

Instead of the government making drugs illegal, how about making them legal then tell the people it is their responsibility to say "no".

I'm sure extraterrestrial races aren't going to stay here and babysit but I'm sure they'll help us If we can help ourselves.

takhisis
02-02-2009, 05:23 AM
I do not neccesarally agree with that humans got us in to trouble

I beleve but i am very open to changing my mind but my theory is that we have been maniuplated as a race to our current point of troubl, through society, relegion and government so to label humans as bad or nasty is wrong we are childern and learning its easy for someone with knowledge to manipulate the masses, like we currently have on earth

lordreptoid
02-02-2009, 05:52 AM
I've seen the plans for 1. Evacuation and 2. Assistance if it become critical. Believe me, no one wants either option at that point. It won't be "pretty". Ever see an entire planet get scolded for being bad? OUCH! Threatening entire other worlds was the worst thing humans did since Roswell. BAD idea. Shooting down their craft and stealing their technology, even WORSE! Humanity (military) have started a cold war that's leading into a full blown war. Without disclosure, soon this will be the biggest paradigm shift humans have ever gone through in their entire history. Shock beyond being able to remain sane for many. It'll be like a bad dream one can never wake up from for far too many. I hate that vision, I just hate it, but I call it like it is, like I called 911 before it happened as on record and witnessed. If humanity does not fix their OWN CRAP RIGHT NOW, option 1 and 2 are ready to roll any moment now. It's that simple... and not even my opinion about that fact even matters much. I knew the risk before coming here... unfortunately. Push for disclosure and pray for peace... it's your only hope. I have done my part by making this warning public for years now. Obama is making an attempt, but we see him lasting 2 years, tops, then "bang!". UK military releasing files first, that'll help. Not every human OR ET wants disclosure - be careful who you trust, but HOPE often and speak your best words always (not your negativity). All eyes are watching on all levels - all is recorded for the final decisions when crisis strikes, then it's too late to beg for someone else to reason with you... it's just grab and go. *waves* Or, total lockdown (more quarantine) and rules you will not like, and they know it, and believe me, they are ready to deal with whatever you can possibly throw at them as they save this world from certain death (self destruction). Time to start being nice or prepare for the worst. Pretty simple to understand and live by with honour and pride. The telepathic ones will judge swiftly and there's no second chances - they'll say you've had more than two already. "Trial by higher self" is another option... but there's another word for that... "death". Emergency procedures to save all the other life forms on this planet are not taken lightly if they have to come rescue everything else and it's humanity that's to blame (even partly). They will act swiftly and whatever you hold in your mind as "memories" and your heart as "intent/wisdom" will decide your respective fates. Good luck.

takhisis
02-02-2009, 07:46 AM
But its not Humans its the Elite controlling the masses, and the reptailians controlling the elite ;) So you cant blame humanity for that, personally i am not afriad to die , or death i dont fear it , i embrace it to get my out of this hellhole of a world we live in

eshtar
02-02-2009, 09:17 AM
Acualy umm don't blame everything on this Elite force eatrher. Humanity is in no way pure and light. Humans have caused things to not just from reptilians and other forces. I am not attacking humans just making a point.

pinkfreud
02-02-2009, 09:43 AM
hi takhisis.

you're not wrong in your evaluation. if anything, i know that the reptilian (orion) elite is constantly seeking to suppress humanity in some way or the other.

however, humans have been actively letting themselves be brainwashed and this is a fact that cannot be ignored.

that said, do remember that there is a starting point for everything; this current state we are in, is not solely because of our blindness.

humans, being the only spiritual beings having the ability to incarnate simultaneously, have been trapped in this illusory matrix, and made to forget our capabilities as earthers to advance to the 4d level by what we call 'aliens'. this is because some of them, like the reptilians for instance- can only incarnate sequentially, or in groups. this means that the orions (including reptilians), sirians (another cluster of et beings) etc can only advance by way of group incarnations.

we, as humans, incarnate one at a time- therefore, our spiritual path is not as tedious as that of the sequential incarnations. the suppression of humanity, which is being worked towards a one world worder or government, is the plan that is being put in action to totally curb us as separate beings and force us to tread the 'sequential path'- or what we now call the 'group mentality'.

it makes a lot of sense when you consider the fact that the nwo is all about 'oneness' by way of one army, one leader, one religion, or basically-

one 'herd'. one 'group'.

this is very detailed, takhisis, and very eye opening indeed... so i'd advise you to go here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43831

take everything 'reptilians' say with a pinch of salt. this is my only advice, and is not meant to incite hostility.

be aware of your abilities as a human being, and realise you are here for a purpose.


take care and be well.

siphon880di
02-02-2009, 09:54 AM
hi takhisis.

you're not wrong in your evaluation. if anything, i know that the reptilian (orion) elite is constantly seeking to suppress humanity in some way or the other.

however, humans have been actively letting themselves be brainwashed and this is a fact that cannot be ignored.

that said, do remember that there is a starting point for everything; this current state we are in, is not solely because of our blindness.

humans, being the only spiritual beings having the ability to incarnate simultaneously, have been trapped in this illusory matrix, and made to forget our capabilities as earthers to advance to the 4d level by what we call 'aliens'. this is because some of them, like the reptilians for instance- can only incarnate sequentially, or in groups. this means that the orions (including reptilians), sirians (another cluster of et beings) etc can only advance by way of group incarnations.

we, as humans, incarnate one at a time- therefore, our spiritual path is not as tedious as that of the sequential incarnations. the suppression of humanity, which is being worked towards a one world worder or government, is the plan that is being put in action to totally curb us as separate beings and force us to tread the 'sequential path'- or what we now call the 'group mentality'.

it makes a lot of sense when you consider the fact that the nwo is all about 'oneness' by way of one army, one leader, one religion, or basically-

one 'herd'. one 'group'.

this is very detailed, takhisis, and very eye opening indeed... so i'd advise you to go here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43831

take everything reptilians say with a pinch of salt. this is my only advice, and is not meant to incite hostility.

be aware of your abilities as a human being, and realise you are here for a purpose.


take care and be well.

You make a lot of sense. Thank you. I'll stop trying to fit in so much now. I don't want to be incarnating as a group.

pinkfreud
02-02-2009, 09:56 AM
You make a lot of sense. Thank you. I'll stop trying to fit in so much now. I don't want to be incarnating as a group.


check out the 'why all reptilians aren't evil' thread. i've posted the reference link for you and skunksmash, from which i've learnt all about this incarnation process.


edit: the link is posted above, sorry lol.



much love ;)

pf.

skunksmash
02-02-2009, 10:07 AM
a ''worldwide'' evacuation planned by reptiles..?? (hope so) but i think not. ;)

we never ''stole'' any technology, ''FINDERS, KEEPERS'' there have been MANY supposed crashes, but a lot of them (unreported of course) were given to us (i say us, what i mean is the twisted ruthless tycoon's that are really in charge)these craft were ''undamaged'' with no pilots..??
they want us to do things for ourselves, of this i have no doubt...

but how can we as a race achieve that when the PTB conceal the material from us..
the average Joe on this planet (like me) has no chance of showing ''them'' what we are capable of when the government still has a running policy which states ...''aliens don't exist'' :(

if what you say is true (& im perfectly willing to hypothetically accept it) & all we have to do to survive this approaching ascension is be kind to one another, i wont have anything to worry about..:D

but the scientist in me, thinks.....
if there is some celestial event approaching its far more likely that the majority of ppl on this planet will NOT make it to the new world, good or not...



:)SK

skunksmash
02-02-2009, 10:09 AM
check out the 'why all reptilians aren't evil' thread. i've posted the reference link for you and skunksmash, from which i've learnt all about this incarnation process.


edit: the link is posted above, sorry lol.



much love ;)

pf.

cheers mate.... i will give it a look ;)




:)SK

fuck_the_nwo
02-02-2009, 06:07 PM
Im so lost on all of this :(

beaming love :)

skunksmash
02-02-2009, 07:21 PM
Im so lost on all of this :(

beaming love :)


don't worry mate, the threads do look pretty daunting, i just got here too......:o........& had that same reaction..lol



:)SK

rhydra
02-02-2009, 07:46 PM
Humans also have to not become so much their own worst enemies. Helping can be so much easier if those who need assistance also help themselves, don't just wait for assistance.

lordreptoid
02-02-2009, 09:58 PM
humans, being the only spiritual beings having the ability to incarnate simultaneously, have been trapped in this illusory matrix...

Wow, billions of souls in the entire universe and millions of worlds with life on it, some born hundreds of thousands of years before us, traveling here in their craft and influencing our cultures on Earth since our own birth and we are the ONLY beings to have the ability to incarnate simultaneously. Is this your own theory or something you read about on the internet, like that "Matrix" stuff?

siphon880di
03-02-2009, 01:22 AM
don't worry mate, the threads do look pretty daunting, i just got here too......:o........& had that same reaction..lol



:)SK

I don't mean to piss anyone off here. This is my interpretation.

The crux of it is that reptilians are jealous of humans because we don't have a hive mind and they do, so they try to "globalize" the world as much as possible so that human minds sync up in the beliefs of sexuality, culture, etc. Once enough humans sync up by 2012, we will become a group mind, and function pretty much like reptilians, greys or pleiades. When you are no longer in the physical world, you can only be part of a hive mind, or be a spritually-aware soul.

The individuals who refuse to follow others in the system of celebrities, religion, trends, New Age, science, etc., will take another evolutionary path in 2012, have their souls and higher selves intact, and grow into their higher selves where we are aware of our multiple parallel incarnations. The New World Order wants as less differences as possible by the year 2012, so that when the turning point of 2012 comes, humanity will de-evolve into a hive mind like reptilians rather than evolve into our higher selves. Even though they are very advance aliens with ufos and holographic technologies, they can do so because of their combined hive mind processing abilities.

But let's not forget that the Reptilians' original intentions is to create a slave human race. They have planted the seed, then left, and will return around 2012, betting that the human collective consciousness will take the hive mind evolutionary path. I must reiterate, when we become a hive mind, we lose our individuality, and if we are not spiritually aware by then, we will be controlled like most of the greys around this universe.

Practically if you try to fit in by then, you may evolve into another dimensional being like everyone else, but you will lose your individuality forever. Do not take the RFID chip and do not believe in any of the news when aliens materialize here for the brief period in 2012. I reiterate from the first paragraph: When you are no longer in the physical world, you can only be part of a hive mind, or be a spritually-aware soul. Do not sync to false doctrination that they will propose to the entire world, and do not take the mind-controlling RFID chip that will sync you to their minds. Even if "Jesus" came and told you that it is effortless and mandatory to allow the RFID in the thumb and index finger, or something to that effect, do not ever give in. I would rather lose my life than give in; otherwise, I'd lose my soul and better lifetimes with it.

The Reptilians have successfully done this on other solar systems. The allies they work with were great civilizations of the past that failed to take the individuality evolution, but instead was duped into being united as a civilization and BEING UNAWARE at their own time-point of 2012. Yes, they are extraterresterial, and yes they are "intelligent" when it comes to processing math and technology with their expansive hive mind, but NO, they do not evolve as individual souls anymore, and NO they no longer have individual higher selves. They lost their way to the Source, and they became parasites instead of spiritual-energy sustaining beings: they need biological substances when materialized in this world, or emotional projections when in their world, etc.

I might be banned very soon because I wanted to know too much, but don't forget my warning.

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 02:42 AM
The crux of it is that reptilians are...

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"The reptilians... all reptilians... they do... they are all... it's their fault and they are all the same!"

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"The reptilians... all reptilians... they do... they are all... it's their fault and they are all the same!"

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"I see both sides to this story - there's a balance here and it's more than most are aware of."

Nod reply positively next post...

"The reptilians... all reptilians... they do... they are all... it's their fault and they are all the same!"

Get fed up at all the majority of XENOPHOBIA hate crimes on the DI forum and lack of compassion and heart from the fearmongers, make a valid point and refer to other positive postsings to BALANCE the data CAREFULLY and get slammed for defending those in need of respect in solidarity against blatant xenophobia (Don't think xenophobia is a serious hate crime? Look it up and guess again. Change "The reptoids" to ANY person of colour or gender or location on the planet and see just how it feels coming from your own mouths again - repeat the exact same words and replace reptoids with jews or "the N word" or "fag" or any other hate crime and generalization. Feels fantastic to hate others without ever having met one before doesn't it?... Ya racist bastards!)...

Get attacked for defending those with neutral or positive encounters by the fearmongers/warlords of the new age order. Sigh, shake head, pray for them to wake the **** up before it's too late, close thread and call a friend who knows better for some good comfort on this insane mission of peace. Ask why I bothered to help anyone in the first place. Go back to work for the greater good... Get blamed for THEIR problems. Get projected all over like some criminal for helping others to wake up and end the blatant xenophobia. Get mistreated by those new age order types again and consider quitting DI forum because too few are not reading the reference links I and others have provided.

If positivity and confidence along with wisdom and inteligence is considered highly attractive to most people on Earth, what does that say about the natural order of things when the opposite is demonstrated by others? UGLY! The smarter one gets, the less attracted they are to their former mates in so called "society" where the same tired old high-school bullying arguments are the "norm" (majority). I guess that makes the smart people on Earth appear "evil" to those addicted to the school-yard bullying level of fearmongering reality. I must be one of the most evil being around these parts then, and I'll remember to take that as a compliment whenever it pops up while I'm still around these parts.

(Read next post, more "The reptilians... all reptilians... they do... they are all... it's their fault and they are all the same!", sigh, skip, delete, move on again... repeat until contact day when I can finally go home from work and take the weekend OFF!).

takhisis
03-02-2009, 02:58 AM
I don't mean to piss anyone off here. This is my interpretation.

The crux of it is that reptilians are jealous of humans because we don't have a hive mind and they do, so they try to "globalize" the world as much as possible so that human minds sync up in the beliefs of sexuality, culture, etc. Once enough humans sync up by 2012, we will become a group mind, and function pretty much like reptilians, greys or pleiades. When you are no longer in the physical world, you can only be part of a hive mind, or be a spritually-aware soul.

The individuals who refuse to follow others in the system of celebrities, religion, trends, New Age, science, etc., will take another evolutionary path in 2012, have their souls and higher selves intact, and grow into their higher selves where we are aware of our multiple parallel incarnations. The New World Order wants as less differences as possible by the year 2012, so that when the turning point of 2012 comes, humanity will de-evolve into a hive mind like reptilians rather than evolve into our higher selves. Even though they are very advance aliens with ufos and holographic technologies, they can do so because of their combined hive mind processing abilities.

But let's not forget that the Reptilians' original intentions is to create a slave human race. They have planted the seed, then left, and will return around 2012, betting that the human collective consciousness will take the hive mind evolutionary path. I must reiterate, when we become a hive mind, we lose our individuality, and if we are not spiritually aware by then, we will be controlled like most of the greys around this universe.

Practically if you try to fit in by then, you may evolve into another dimensional being like everyone else, but you will lose your individuality forever. Do not take the RFID chip and do not believe in any of the news when aliens materialize here for the brief period in 2012. I reiterate from the first paragraph: When you are no longer in the physical world, you can only be part of a hive mind, or be a spritually-aware soul. Do not sync to false doctrination that they will propose to the entire world, and do not take the mind-controlling RFID chip that will sync you to their minds. Even if "Jesus" came and told you that it is effortless and mandatory to allow the RFID in the thumb and index finger, or something to that effect, do not ever give in. I would rather lose my life than give in; otherwise, I'd lose my soul and better lifetimes with it.

The Reptilians have successfully done this on other solar systems. The allies they work with were great civilizations of the past that failed to take the individuality evolution, but instead was duped into being united as a civilization and BEING UNAWARE at their own time-point of 2012. Yes, they are extraterresterial, and yes they are "intelligent" when it comes to processing math and technology with their expansive hive mind, but NO, they do not evolve as individual souls anymore, and NO they no longer have individual higher selves. They lost their way to the Source, and they became parasites instead of spiritual-energy sustaining beings: they need biological substances when materialized in this world, or emotional projections when in their world, etc.

I might be banned very soon because I wanted to know too much, but don't forget my warning.

Totally agree i for one would rather die then be embedded with a Chip i will never accept the chip ever , for my personal belief that is the mark of the beast that the bible talks about .. ethier way that is my opion i dont force my own opion on others

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 02:59 AM
CORRECTION: The Anunnaki "created" humans and they are clearly human looking according to evidence Icke and others have provided. Even the Bible admits the same deal, which is based on the ancient Sumerian texts. "In OUR image = we look just like them". Reptoids tried to add KNOWLEDGE about their "creator" to the human "tree of life" and got ATTACKED by "Gods/Elohim" for doing so. It's time to start asking some SERIOUS QUESTIONS of ALL human looking "ETs" and stop blaming EVERYTHING on reptilian races, all of them, every single race that ever was or will be! Do your research... or screw it, pick the Anunnaki side of this battle and follow Jehova/YVHV path to your heart's content and flirt with the "gods" who flooded the planet and wiped most of you out without a care what so ever. Yeah, that's the "good gods" for you... the lovely Anunnaki HUMANS who started it all off. Lovely people they are... so helpful these days too being in charge of everything. Oh... they "left" did they? Maybe not. Aliance/ATLANTIS productions? AOHell? Masons and the ancient pyramid symbology... Ancient Sumerians who WARNED US ALL in the future about the Atlantian ETs who were HUMAN and wanted apes of Earth to look just like them, their true form, as a tribute to THEIR work. Yeah, reptilians did all that... right. Humans rebelled against their HUMAN Anunnaki over-lords in Atlantis and Lemuria and Mu (etc), that's when Tiamat was swiftly converted into an asteroid belt which impacted life on Mars as well. Too many innocent lives were lost then and it'll happen again because the blame game is all on ONE race or ALL races that appear as that one form and not the ORIGINAL GODS who tweaked apes into the HUMAN FORM to begin with, this "vengeful god" of the old testament that Judaism is based on! (Anti-Christ, Christ-deniers). Think about it. You just might be going after THE WRONG GODS as your "enemy"!

There, I said it... now do your research about ancient Sumer and the Anunnaki HUMANS and stop blaming "the reptoids" for all this Atlantis/Aliance/Anunnaki crap you see all around you. Humans are NOT as "innocent" as you wish you all were.

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 03:21 AM
Something light to laugh about while making a point about "good/bad" anything and our perceptions of same.

--

An elderly blind woman was flying from Seattle to San Francisco . Unexpectedly, the plane was diverted to Sacramento along the way. Over the PA system, the flight attendant explained that there would be a delay, and if the passengers wanted to get off the aircraft the plane would re-board in 50 minutes.

Everybody got off the plane except this one lady who was blind; you could tell the lady was blind because her seeing-eye dog lay quietly underneath the seats in front of her throughout the entire flight.

You could also tell she had flown this very flight before because the pilot approached her, and calling her by name, said, "Kathy, we are in Sacramento for almost an hour. Would you like to get off and stretch your legs?"

The blind lady said, "No thanks, but maybe Buddy would like to stretch his legs."

Picture this:
All the people in the gate area came to a complete standstill when they looked up and saw the pilot walking off the plane with a seeing-eye dog! The pilot was even wearing sunglasses. People scattered. They not only tried to change planes, but they were trying to change airlines!

THINGS AREN'T ALWAYS AS THEY APPEAR.

--

Experiments have been done in public where a lady will be walking past a man who's walking a dog, the dog has clearly just finished doing her business, she drops her candy bar and assorted witnesses see the lady smiling to the man as the dog finishes up as she lifts the brown mass into her hand and waves thanking the man and dog for the special treat... at least that's ow it looks to some as she takes a big bite out of it and sits down at a cafe and orders a drink... then they are told that's the lady they are about to meet and then write their thoughts about the lady in a letter later that day and be honest about their first impressions of her and if they'd ever trust her as a business lady in the future (etc). Those who "saw the truth" disliked her the entire interview... and those who "saw nothing" liked her immensely. Why? Because...

THINGS AREN'T ALWAYS AS THEY APPEAR.

ANyone here old enough to remember "Three's company"? Or even "Seinfeld"? Entire movies and TV shows are based on ASSumptions as light humour, because it's SO LUDICRIS to think how some people actually behave in their "seeing" or "overhearing" what they "know is the truth". Never forget that lesson, it's everywhere around you. Hope the laughs helped to make the medicine go down a little easier this time. :)

Purple Crow of www.COHRA.org

takhisis
03-02-2009, 03:40 AM
CORRECTION: The Anunnaki "created" humans and they are clearly human looking according to evidence Icke and others have provided. Even the Bible admits the same deal, which is based on the ancient Sumerian texts. "In OUR image = we look just like them". Reptoids tried to add KNOWLEDGE about their "creator" to the human "tree of life" and got ATTACKED by "Gods/Elohim" for doing so. It's time to start asking some SERIOUS QUESTIONS of ALL human looking "ETs" and stop blaming EVERYTHING on reptilian races, all of them, every single race that ever was or will be! Do your research... or screw it, pick the Anunnaki side of this battle and follow Jehova/YVHV path to your heart's content and flirt with the "gods" who flooded the planet and wiped most of you out without a care what so ever. Yeah, that's the "good gods" for you... the lovely Anunnaki HUMANS who started it all off. Lovely people they are... so helpful these days too being in charge of everything. Oh... they "left" did they? Maybe not. Aliance/ATLANTIS productions? AOHell? Masons and the ancient pyramid symbology... Ancient Sumerians who WARNED US ALL in the future about the Atlantian ETs who were HUMAN and wanted apes of Earth to look just like them, their true form, as a tribute to THEIR work. Yeah, reptilians did all that... right. Humans rebelled against their HUMAN Anunnaki over-lords in Atlantis and Lemuria and Mu (etc), that's when Tiamat was swiftly converted into an asteroid belt which impacted life on Mars as well. Too many innocent lives were lost then and it'll happen again because the blame game is all on ONE race or ALL races that appear as that one form and not the ORIGINAL GODS who tweaked apes into the HUMAN FORM to begin with, this "vengeful god" of the old testament that Judaism is based on! (Anti-Christ, Christ-deniers). Think about it. You just might be going after THE WRONG GODS as your "enemy"!

There, I said it... now do your research about ancient Sumer and the Anunnaki HUMANS and stop blaming "the reptoids" for all this Atlantis/Aliance/Anunnaki crap you see all around you. Humans are NOT as "innocent" as you wish you all were.

I also dont beleve in the bible , i think was misinterupted , watched a Video on Nassim Haramien and his grand unifed theory and he backs everything he claims up by fact, which for ME is more proof then anyone has ever come up with , basically he states the old testiment is just a description of technology (aka the ark of god) was a technology

pinkfreud
03-02-2009, 04:04 AM
Wow, billions of souls in the entire universe and millions of worlds with life on it, some born hundreds of thousands of years before us, traveling here in their craft and influencing our cultures on Earth since our own birth and we are the ONLY beings to have the ability to incarnate simultaneously. Is this your own theory or something you read about on the internet, like that "Matrix" stuff?


right. thank you for pointing that out.

humans are the only beings in this dark polarity area of the universe, who have the ability to incarnate simultaneously.

this is not my theory, and is much more credible than the information you have put forward. i don't need to convince you of my sources, as long as the information resonates with the people here. but nonetheless, yes it is from the M materials.

and it's not 'from the internet', so please double check on that.

thanks.

siphon880di
03-02-2009, 04:07 AM
I am on pink's side. The information resonated with me. I completely understand it, but I think it needs to be rewritten so more people can understand. I might make a youtube video on this concept after I learn more. This is going to be a big production.

pinkfreud
03-02-2009, 04:09 AM
I am on pink's side. The information resonated with me. I completely understand it, but I think it needs to be rewritten so more people can understand. I might make a youtube video on this concept after I learn. This is going to be a big production.


thank you siphon.

tbh i'm still a newbie as far as being thorough with these materials are concerned, so if you have any questions or need some help, get in touch with lordzoma.




much love friend ;)

pf.

siphon880di
03-02-2009, 04:35 AM
I had said this on another thread. Sorry for doubleposting, but I want to make a point:

There's this movie from 1986 called "From Beyond". It's a Lovecraftian movie. Be ware it's rated R. It depicts astral beings that you can see with your third eye, and they try to get people to evolve into being them, so they can incorporate you into their mind. They function as a hive mind, and needs to eat human organs. They also have an insatiable desire for torturing people with sex acts, just like the bad reptilians.

Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7o_Bw0DCWo&feature=PlayList&p=6E7FB1CC6B7E4C8E&index=0

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7o_Bw0DCWo&feature=PlayList&p=6E7FB1CC6B7E4C8E&index=0.

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 05:15 AM
I am on pink's side. The information resonated with me. I completely understand it, but I think it needs to be rewritten so more people can understand. I might make a youtube video on this concept after I learn more. This is going to be a big production.

More copies of copies of copies (memes) for the new age order "me world" of "You tube". Lovely.

siphon880di
03-02-2009, 05:17 AM
More copies of copies of copies (memes) for the new age order "me world" of "You tube". Lovely.

The meme doesn't support the new world order since it already exists for too long, and we can't get rid of them by forgetting as the number of people are low, but to fight them is the only way.

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 05:20 AM
And how are you "fighting them", do tell, siphon? You offered the notion, so I'll bite. :D

siphon880di
03-02-2009, 05:25 AM
And how are you "fighting them", do tell, siphon? You offered the notion, so I'll bite. :D

I spoke to other warriors, and they say the best way is to spread awareness to people on the internet and your friends (jokingly though). Then when that time comes, you can lead.

I'll work out to the best of my ability and get some training with guns. I'll do my best even though I'm just a human. Being humble is all the world expects of anyone.

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 05:31 AM
I'll work out to the best of my ability and get some training with guns

This is your answer to the NWO and shape-shifting reptilians? SERIOUSLY?! after all you've learned about yourself and this world around you, Siphon... Shooting others with a gun is the BEST your heart cold come up with??? You are a real life ZANI (anagram) person, Siphon, to the utmost sense of the word. Blame the Jews, er, you means "the reptoids"... yes of course. David Icke never warned us about people just like you on the internet influencing and feeding people's memes and fears at all did he? *sighs* Here you have it folks, yet another gun slinging paranoid who says he has a right to own a weapon... and some wonder why the gov't wanted to take them away from such people. Really... I mean REALLY! *shakes his head*

siphon880di
03-02-2009, 06:12 AM
If aliens invade earth and arrives on your street. What are you going to do? That's the real reason why the state governments have been banning arms in the south and east.

If they do invade, people will remember you convinced them that aliens invade in our best interest in 2012. If they had only prepared...

Get your first aid kits, water, and imperishable food ready, people. You might think the new world order is a joke, but many think it's plausible or even real to prepare for it.

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 06:31 AM
If aliens invade earth and arrives on your street. What are you going to do? That's the real reason why the state governments have been banning arms in the south and east.

If they do invade, people will remember you convinced them that aliens invade in our best interest in 2012. If they had only prepared...

Get your first aid kits, water, and imperishable food ready, people. You might think the new world order is a joke, but many think it's plausible or even real to prepare for it.

Re: "If aliens invade earth and arrives on your street. What are you going to do?"

1. Smile. 2. Let them scan me. 3. Accept their offer of working together. 4. Meet friends and make formal introductions. Do you doubt their ability to share my personal memories inside their own minds? Who will appear to have behaved more adult when comparing humans and ETs in that instant? Who will get the respect they deserve after years of hard work? Who can adapt to any ET situation from such vast knowledge about their assorted kinds? Who has something to OFFER THEM? ;)

Re: "If they do invade, people will remember you convinced them that aliens invade in our best interest in 2012. If they had only prepared..."

FEAR GUILT FEAR GUILT FEAR GUILT FEAR GUILT! Hello, skipping record in a time loop called "Hell". Go create your reality elsewhere, Siphon, you're boring me and rather disturbing actually.

pinkfreud
03-02-2009, 07:06 AM
More copies of copies of copies (memes) for the new age order "me world" of "You tube". Lovely.


i don't understand what's bothering you if he chooses to make information available in whatever way he deems suitable.

skunksmash
03-02-2009, 09:33 AM
once again lordreptoid sounding off .....:rolleyes:

i tell ya, every time you open your mouth pure FAIL pours out onto the keyboard.....


he's probably a gecko lads, that'll be enough to piss off any self respecting reptile...lol :D

great answer siphon880di...... you can always tell how good an answer is by the reaction of the reciver, & HE IS PISSED ...great work.

pinkfreud.... thanks for showing us all what we were dealing with from the start....''FEAR GUILT FEAR GUILT FEAR GUILT FEAR GUILT!'' this is what lordreptoid feels when someone poses a reptile question he cannot answer without hurling abuse...

oh lordreptoid....
http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:V6whHk45bWRU7M:http://www.seomoz.org/images/upload/simpsons_nelson_haha2.jpg


:)SK

lightblessins
03-02-2009, 09:57 AM
hey guys, i dont think there r any good draconains so to speak but i do beleive there are good reptilains out there, however what race i dont know. u cant get a "good" draconain, their dna is design to dominate and control they really dont care about killing anything or any1 to achieve this, its just the way they r.:)

sabre1
03-02-2009, 08:47 PM
Just use the golden rule, "Treat others the way you want to be treated." If they come to make peace by using friendship, make friends. If they come to make war, they'll get what is coming to them.:D

Peace, Diplomacy, and Understanding makes lasting friendships, and friends try their best not to hurt one another. If someone is trying to cause harm to you or your family and friends, you have the right to self-defense, but just remember, war is the very last resort, don't use it as a first.

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 09:04 PM
*nods and smiles to Sabre1*

Thank-you, well said. Many could learn from you here on this forum.

sabre1
03-02-2009, 09:25 PM
I'm going to get a M1 Garand or a M14 for the stopping power and range, but I'm going to get a soccer ball for funzys. :D

lordreptoid
03-02-2009, 10:01 PM
I'll stick with the power of love... but a "dread" makes for a sweet back-up plan for a laugh - go out with style just for the fun of it, take a few with you as you go, that sort of Rambo thing... look that one up, Sabre1. :) "the Dread"

Also: Soccer, funny. :) On this forum, the idea of having fun playing soccer with ETs... David can keep score for us. :D

PS: My rep family will need rubber claw caps, otherwise that ball is popped in one swift kick. :D lol

eshtar
04-02-2009, 01:19 AM
ok noo good Draconians? where do you get this? where are your facts? Draco ARE Reptilians. No offence but get to know a draco rep before maiking that judgement. No wonder why I need a break from this place lol.

takhisis
04-02-2009, 07:42 AM
ok noo good Draconians? where do you get this? where are your facts? Draco ARE Reptilians. No offence but get to know a draco rep before maiking that judgement. No wonder why I need a break from this place lol.

I would love to meet a real reptailian just to talk and learn , obviously there more advanced then us or Draconian , but i heard alot of horror storys about encounters from them , so of course any rational being would be intimidated , but if there really is a such thing as reptailians I would embrace the oppurtunity to learn and be able to meet one

sabre1
04-02-2009, 04:47 PM
I'd rather meet a reptillian or draco during the day, I like to sleep at night undisturbed. :D

eshtar
04-02-2009, 07:08 PM
Thing is, your talking to some of us now. *smiles* do we seem THAT bad?

lordreptoid
04-02-2009, 10:03 PM
I'd rather meet a reptillian or draco during the day, I like to sleep at night undisturbed.

Heheheh... having been there, I still agree with you. Meeting the one I have so far doesn't mean I'm suddenly open to midnight invasions... I still prefer to see each other clarly and shake hands first as I look into their eyes. Most agreed, Sabre1. Somehow I suspect it won't be like that for me until well after 2013.

michael christopher
05-02-2009, 01:15 AM
humans, being the only spiritual beings having the ability to incarnate simultaneously, have been trapped in this illusory matrix, and made to forget our capabilities as earthers to advance to the 4d level by what we call 'aliens'. this is because some of them, like the reptilians for instance- can only incarnate sequentially, or in groups. this means that the orions (including reptilians), sirians (another cluster of et beings) etc can only advance by way of group incarnations.

If this is the case, why are aliens and reptilians able to incarnate as human beings? Are you saying that human beings are more spiritually advanced that higher-dimensional entities, and if so, how is that even possible?

sabre1
05-02-2009, 01:51 AM
With daytime encounters, I can see them in clear detail. Plus, if the peace breaks down for some reason, (i.e. a fight) you can actually see their movements better or you can simply hide in the public.

Do reptilians like to play hide-and-go-seek? ;):D

pinkfreud
05-02-2009, 04:45 AM
If this is the case, why are aliens and reptilians able to incarnate as human beings? Are you saying that human beings are more spiritually advanced that higher-dimensional entities, and if so, how is that even possible?


because sequentials can choose to incarnate simultaneously.

as you'd know, michael, this info is from M5- of which i've read excerpts. i'm not a spokesperson for the material, but the author has specifically said humans are more spiritually evolved, given their ability (and choice) to incarnate simultaneously- this is always preceeded by a sequential incarnation.

the latter form of 'existence' in this realm, is much slower and more tedious (a longer drawn process) than a simultaneous existence, due to its nature of a whole 'group' having to progress, rather than individual advancement (human).

so what he's basically saying, is that you can't become a simultaneous incarnation unless you've existed in the sequential mode.

this might help: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/valdamar_valerian/esp_valdamar_valerian_12.htm

"Earther Higher Selves progress independently at their own speed. Not proceeding as a group is daunting to the sequentials as well as not retaining conscious memory of shim's other 3rd density lives. The one time that a Higher Self can 'change sides' is if that Higher Self decides to enter the Earther Higher Self path with all the benefits and the liabilities associated with that path. This type of switching sides IS allowed in the Game. It does not occur very often. Due to the very nature of simultaneous incarnations, it is obvious that a simultaneous can never regress to a sequential path.

That the sequential group stays within a certain race and progresses as a planet, at the minimum, shows much (to simultaneous incarnates) about their limitations. Yes, they have all incarnation memories, but their experiences are limited to that race and racial development. The one element that all sequentials have in common is FEAR. In this case, the fear is being born into each incarnation without memories of other incarnations. It is a courageous Higher Self that takes the simultaneous path, as Robert Monroe said."



i leave it to your discretion.

michael christopher
05-02-2009, 05:03 AM
So is he saying that 4D and 5D entities must choose to evolve in 3D in order to evolve spiritually, or is there a difference between 4D incarnates and 3D incarnates? I would imagine that to achieve multi-dimensional consciousness you would have already had to have gone through 3D, although I guess I could be wrong. I just don't see why you would need to incarnate in 3D to learn how to think multi-dimensionally, if you can already shift into 4D at your own will. It seems backwards.

I guess my question is, has a 4D incarnate already been a human being, even if they are a reptilian incarnate? I would just think you couldn't even be enlightened enough to have such high vibrations unless you'd already been through the 3D experience.

I have to be honest here, with the Matrix material, after awhile I would start skimming because a lot of it literally would repeat the same information over and over again. At least the stuff I had on my computer.

pinkfreud
05-02-2009, 05:14 AM
So is he saying that 4D and 5D entities must choose to evolve in 3D in order to evolve spiritually, or is there a difference between 4D incarnates and 3D incarnates? I would imagine that to achieve multi-dimensional consciousness you would have already had to have gone through 3D, although I guess I could be wrong. I just don't see why you would need to incarnate in 3D to learn how to think multi-dimensionally, if you can already shift into 4D at your own will. It seems backwards.

I guess my question is, has a 4D incarnate already been a human being, even if they are a reptilian incarnate? I would just think you couldn't even be enlightened enough to have such high vibrations unless you'd already been through the 3D experience.

I have to be honest here, with the Matrix material, after awhile I would start skimming because a lot of it literally would repeat the same information over and over again. At least the stuff I had on my computer.


i agree with you there, and tbh i also believe once you're on the astral plane there would be no need to regress to 3D- though i have my doubts as to whether the orions are really 4 or 5D beings. i think they're just as stuck in this dimension as we are, and that a particular faction within the race is trying to curb our simultaneous paths.

i've not yet got to the part about the dimensions and my knowledge about other entities being a part of the 'progressive' planes is very limited, so you'd do well to check out the bits on trufax and the link i posted above if you wish.

that said, i don't doubt that our being simultaneous incarnations is a cause of worry to some beings.



if you find anything on the dimensional perspective, do clue me in, lol.


edit: i guess moral man and lordzoma would have the answer to your question, as they've read the entire materials, so they'd be in a better position to clear your doubt/s.

michael christopher
05-02-2009, 05:20 AM
i agree with you there, and tbh i also believe once you're on the astral plane there would be no need to regress to 3D- though i have my doubts as to whether the orions are really 4 or 5D beings.

I agree with you, I think because people are unprepared for death they freak the hell out when they reach 4D and start manifesting all kinds of negativity, which is why they choose to reincarnate.

As for the manipulators not being higher than 3D, I think you are right because I don't see how it could be any other way. The Orions, assuming they exist (quite possible) can't be more spiritually advanced than we are or they wouldn't be so obsessed with the human race.

lordreptoid
05-02-2009, 05:21 AM
Where did it all begin? At the start. And what's the start? What were "we" then? So first to become 3D you need to *BIG BANG* start one of these... *rumble rumble* ...then start working on the layers and slower more complex portions of the dimensionality through vibrating fields of creation... and so on.. all the way down to this little dust ball in layer "3D"... where is it now?... which one?... little more left... keep going..... closer... AH! right here... *taps the Earth with his claw... clink clink* Ooohhh... it's crystaline... neat. :D Then you can SQUISH parts of yourself as "sparks of you" into little shards of connected reality into that place there, that little blue world, and "feel" all it's experiences as if you were really there - and YOU ARE. :D So it's not about "evolution" or "raising one's consciousness" as the be-all end-all of being "God, the creator of all things" - sometimes it's just slowing down long enough to BE a flower opening up on a pond somewhere, and being "ok" with that... feeling the morning dew on your petals as the sun slowly rises. Little flower... so pretty... what do you dream of being one day? A dog or cat? A human being? An angel? "I dream of where I am right now, my friend. I am right where I belong, I am a gift unto my own self from myself, that's why it's called the PRESENT" ;) (...said the Panthiest... not to be confused with the Frying-Panthiest "Kryten 2X4B" from Red Dwarf) :D

pinkfreud
05-02-2009, 05:26 AM
I agree with you, I think because people are unprepared for death they freak the hell out when they reach 4D and start manifesting all kinds of negativity, which is why they choose to reincarnate.

As for the manipulators not being higher than 3D, I think you are right because I don't see how it could be any other way. The Orions, assuming they exist (quite possible) can't be more spiritually advanced than we are or they wouldn't be so obsessed with the human race.

i think choosing to reincarnate is eventually the vital need to get in touch with the Higher Self, and progress through observation and knowledge- and fear does play an important role, but only in the lower stages.

that's why fear is so important to the darksiders, and that's why most of them dwell/feed on it.

i also don't believe the orion faction is more advanced than humans- if anything, i believe humans are higher up on the plane (sequentiality being the precursor to a simultaneous path, and not the other way round).

the problem is, the majority of the human population consists of minion beings- hence the ease in controlling them like a flock of sheep.

pinkfreud
05-02-2009, 05:48 AM
here's something you may resonate with, michael... also makes a lot of sense when you consider the ptb is trying so hard for a one world government.


from http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/valdamar_valerian/esp_valdamar_valerian_12.htm




Control Freaks and The Game - Part I

Control freaks are those incarnations or groups of incarnations that seek to exert power (Dark) over the vast majority who are just in the Game for experiences and self-development.

Sequential control freaks are those who ensure that the incarnates on their planet progress AS a planet. They also seek to expand their control to other planets/systems in one way or another. Individuality is greatly restrained as discussed in past M5G segments. On sequential planets, you would discover that the planetary/system/empire control freaks are connected to Higher Selves who are extremely addicted to the 3rd density playing field. These are the ones who aspire to governmental control positions/priesthoods where they can impose their will over others.

In the Orion Empire, the reptilian royals are the prime haven for Game addicts.

These Higher Selves have discovered that they are able to control others IN the Game and BY the Game's rules in ways that they could never do likewise outside of the Game. The Orion Empire is an extreme form of family control and blood line (genetic) oriented.

On other sequential worlds occupied by other species, the same exists to varying degrees whether it is by an overt dictator or a ruling committee/council. It is the exertion/imposition of power over the masses. It is Dark based (such as Orion/Sirian) or it can be Light based (such as Pleiadian). Light power freaks impose their will "for your benefit" even if you can't see the benefit. Dark power freaks impose their will "because I say so, and fuck those who don't like it". Either way, the masses get screwed!

The quarantine of Earth is due to it being the current simultaneous planet in our galaxy Game. The next simultaneous galaxy Game planet will be likewise quarantined.

It's not the masses of simultaneous who desire this, but rather their control freak leaderships who fear the Game moving too quickly and their eventual loss of power over others. Beyond the Game, NO Higher Self is able to lord it over any others. Game addicts, like drug addicts, fear the loss of the supply (power) of their Game drug. This is something that THEY will have to work out. Nevertheless they will do whatever they feel they must in order to keep this power.

Meanwhile, here on Earth, you can easily see how control freaks are operating during this stage of EndGame.

These are NOT all simultaneous incarnates.

Most are sequentials posing as simultaneous, be they shape-shifting reptilians or other sequentials. However there ARE those who have made the jump from sequential to simultaneous path and want to continue to impose their wills over the masses. These people are generally working with their sequential counterparts.

Enter Earther royal families who have been around since dirt. Enter Earther lines that are also considered better/superior than the average such as Kennedy, Bush, Rothschild, Rockefeller, and numerous others. Note these are all GENETIC based lines.

As per previous M5G segments, those who stress genetic lines are sequentially awed. Keep that in mind and you will have a clearer perspective on the Game here.

Simultaneous path incarnates of mid-Advanced levels and higher should be aware that it is the incarnating spirit and NOT the genetic line that matters.

Yet, most Earthers seem to be eager to bow and to defer to these false gods. Why? This is a carry-over from our sequential path eons. When you progress from the sequential to the simultaneous, you do not start as if the sequential never existed for you. True, your memories of that path are blocked, but you have innate experiences that hang on. This is because the simultaneous path is where you continue the Game and have to overcome all the shit that you had to experience as a sequential pather.

Hence, you have those who want power over groups who are of a Low, Mid or through the mid-Advanced levels. Each wants different power/control over groups whether that group be a circle of friends, neighborhood, town or greater. How far one can climb the power ladder depends on the planetary rulers who are sequentials. You must have the right genetics to ascend. You should be able to piece that together. The Game does have its rules and all sides operate within them.

This is why, throughout Earth's history since it became the simultaneous planet of our galaxy Game, that there have always been clusters of control.

BUT one thing that set Earth apart from the sequentials is that you, as a simultaneous incarnate, could experience widely different cultures/races/experiences on the same planet.

It was the introduction by the aliens of technology that began to undo the simultaneous path nature of Earth and start its transformation as a sequential planet - ONE world, ONE government - somewhere where everyone was the same. The power mad on a planetary scale all in the overt name of 'for your benefit': THAT is a LIE being forced on the masses.

The American government is probably the Darkest on Earth today. It attempts to coat itself in Light, but this is an easily to see deception from my level. The true Axis of Evil (Dark) on Earth today is U.S./Britain/Israel. You will have to come to your own awareness of these matters depending on your path and your path-required experiences.

It is WAY too late to return to the simultaneous place during this time period. We are having experiences in during pre-EndGame years that have a chaotic vibration.

This is the way OF the Game.

This is similar to each EndGame for each simultaneous planet in our galaxy Game. The next simultaneous planet is chosen and will be the next center of the galaxy when Earth's Planetary Spirit graduates.

It is only the simultaneous path where one can graduate the Game and have their Dominant, Very Advanced and Final Incarnations.

The sequential path has nothing to compare, although they will try to deceive you to follow them.

As for those Game addicted Higher Selves, they will have to work things out for themselves at their own pace. We will be LONG gone, and I do mean LONG gone, while the Orion royals are still searching for physical immortality and galaxy-wide dominance.

Eventually they, too, will move beyond, but when is not our concern.

That's the individuality of it all.




Control Freaks and The Game - Part II

The Control Freak is a dominance addict. The Game gives these Higher Selves something to experience that they cannot get away with outside of the Game because no one would put up with it. Outside of the Game, beyond the polarity densities, each Higher Self is responsible for shimself.

Dominance is a polarity issue because the counter to it is subservience. If you cannot find someone to obey your control-freakish self, it becomes a non-event. However while IN a galaxy Game, it becomes an addictive rush to SOME Higher Selves.

Throughout our TOTAL Game experience ALL Higher Selves will experience control on both ends of the polarity spectrum.

This is necessary in order to merge both ends into the Balance view it eventually becomes.

This experience is not an addiction if one moves gracefully through the experiences. There is nothing 'graceful' about the Orion royals Higher Selves and their fevered approach to clinging to power as they do, especially the Orion queen with cloning and body hopping to retain that control/dominance.

As stated in the previous segment, this will eventually pass.

On Earth, the sequential control freakism demonstrates as group conformity.

Notice with many heterosexuals acting with total imbalance over the matter of gay marriage.

Their rabid, mouth foaming passion is one of sequential demand for conformity, body ID and their desires to dominate.

Similarly, the 'one path' religions of the world, the religious institutions especially with the 'one' domineering god, demand conformity. These have always resorted to violence to enforce their perverted mentality.

This is another sequential incarnation hold-over running through our simultaneous experience. One's body ID will shriek with its DNA commands that were instilled by alien genetic scientists. This shrieking is the rabid nature of those opposed to this attack on sequential path conformity.

Do you notice how the 'majority' seems to be at its best when no one makes waves to disturb the status quo? Notice how they look back on long gone years where they have an illusion that all was well and change was looked down on?

That is a sequential process.

The ones who DO 'make waves' and strike out with their own uniqueness are dealing with impulses from their Higher Selves.

It is one thing to be unique, but another thing to force your uniqueness on everyone in such a way that it forces them to do the same thing you are doing.

That is just another wave of sequentialism.

This is what the one god religions do. They are not content to have their beLIEfs, but demand that everyone else accept them as well at the expense of their own lifestyle.

Taking the issue of gay marriage, since the fascists are making such a big deal out of it, is a good example. If same gender couples desire marriage and all the benefits/liabilities that that arcane institution has, it is their business alone. Because they choose to do it has no effect on het gender couples. It does not mean that everyone has to marry another same gender person.

THAT would be enforced sequentialism.

However sequentialism cannot bear another group being different but equal in the affectional arena. The control issues of 'sin', 'abnormality' and other nonsense control freak buzz words are rampant to try and enforce their sequential mindset. This would present valid options to a one-way mentality which is anything but sequentialism.

Yet many non-gays DO support gay marriage. This indicates that they have a stronger impulse from their Higher Selves and, at their various levels, seek to break free of the sequentially dominated Game.

The control freaks will not give up. They are thriving here during EndGame because of the negative emotional rushes that they create. The astral has its control freaks as well. The lower astral levels are particularly populated with them. However on the astral, with knowledge, one can get away from these nut cases, especially on Focus level 27.

Today's control freaks love using Lightsider hot button words to cow the masses to beLIEving their bullshit. Darksider Bush and his gang of war criminals are the perfect examples of that in action. May the Earth Planetary Spirit graduate VERY soon!

You should be able to see how complex this can get and my attempting to discuss this has its limitations with English translations of this knowledge. This is not a simple-to-define/explain matter. I have given you insight to consider at your own level and do with as you feel you must even if that be to toss it out of your consciousness.

sabre1
05-02-2009, 08:03 AM
here's something you may resonate with, michael... also makes a lot of sense when you consider the ptb is trying so hard for a one world government.


from http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/valdamar_valerian/esp_valdamar_valerian_12.htm




Control Freaks and The Game - Part I

Control freaks are those incarnations or groups of incarnations that seek to exert power (Dark) over the vast majority who are just in the Game for experiences and self-development.

Sequential control freaks are those who ensure that the incarnates on their planet progress AS a planet. They also seek to expand their control to other planets/systems in one way or another. Individuality is greatly restrained as discussed in past M5G segments. On sequential planets, you would discover that the planetary/system/empire control freaks are connected to Higher Selves who are extremely addicted to the 3rd density playing field. These are the ones who aspire to governmental control positions/priesthoods where they can impose their will over others.

In the Orion Empire, the reptilian royals are the prime haven for Game addicts.

These Higher Selves have discovered that they are able to control others IN the Game and BY the Game's rules in ways that they could never do likewise outside of the Game. The Orion Empire is an extreme form of family control and blood line (genetic) oriented.

On other sequential worlds occupied by other species, the same exists to varying degrees whether it is by an overt dictator or a ruling committee/council. It is the exertion/imposition of power over the masses. It is Dark based (such as Orion/Sirian) or it can be Light based (such as Pleiadian). Light power freaks impose their will "for your benefit" even if you can't see the benefit. Dark power freaks impose their will "because I say so, and fuck those who don't like it". Either way, the masses get screwed!

The quarantine of Earth is due to it being the current simultaneous planet in our galaxy Game. The next simultaneous galaxy Game planet will be likewise quarantined.

It's not the masses of simultaneous who desire this, but rather their control freak leaderships who fear the Game moving too quickly and their eventual loss of power over others. Beyond the Game, NO Higher Self is able to lord it over any others. Game addicts, like drug addicts, fear the loss of the supply (power) of their Game drug. This is something that THEY will have to work out. Nevertheless they will do whatever they feel they must in order to keep this power.

Meanwhile, here on Earth, you can easily see how control freaks are operating during this stage of EndGame.

These are NOT all simultaneous incarnates.

Most are sequentials posing as simultaneous, be they shape-shifting reptilians or other sequentials. However there ARE those who have made the jump from sequential to simultaneous path and want to continue to impose their wills over the masses. These people are generally working with their sequential counterparts.

Enter Earther royal families who have been around since dirt. Enter Earther lines that are also considered better/superior than the average such as Kennedy, Bush, Rothschild, Rockefeller, and numerous others. Note these are all GENETIC based lines.

As per previous M5G segments, those who stress genetic lines are sequentially awed. Keep that in mind and you will have a clearer perspective on the Game here.

Simultaneous path incarnates of mid-Advanced levels and higher should be aware that it is the incarnating spirit and NOT the genetic line that matters.

Yet, most Earthers seem to be eager to bow and to defer to these false gods. Why? This is a carry-over from our sequential path eons. When you progress from the sequential to the simultaneous, you do not start as if the sequential never existed for you. True, your memories of that path are blocked, but you have innate experiences that hang on. This is because the simultaneous path is where you continue the Game and have to overcome all the shit that you had to experience as a sequential pather.

Hence, you have those who want power over groups who are of a Low, Mid or through the mid-Advanced levels. Each wants different power/control over groups whether that group be a circle of friends, neighborhood, town or greater. How far one can climb the power ladder depends on the planetary rulers who are sequentials. You must have the right genetics to ascend. You should be able to piece that together. The Game does have its rules and all sides operate within them.

This is why, throughout Earth's history since it became the simultaneous planet of our galaxy Game, that there have always been clusters of control.

BUT one thing that set Earth apart from the sequentials is that you, as a simultaneous incarnate, could experience widely different cultures/races/experiences on the same planet.

It was the introduction by the aliens of technology that began to undo the simultaneous path nature of Earth and start its transformation as a sequential planet - ONE world, ONE government - somewhere where everyone was the same. The power mad on a planetary scale all in the overt name of 'for your benefit': THAT is a LIE being forced on the masses.

The American government is probably the Darkest on Earth today. It attempts to coat itself in Light, but this is an easily to see deception from my level. The true Axis of Evil (Dark) on Earth today is U.S./Britain/Israel. You will have to come to your own awareness of these matters depending on your path and your path-required experiences.

It is WAY too late to return to the simultaneous place during this time period. We are having experiences in during pre-EndGame years that have a chaotic vibration.

This is the way OF the Game.

This is similar to each EndGame for each simultaneous planet in our galaxy Game. The next simultaneous planet is chosen and will be the next center of the galaxy when Earth's Planetary Spirit graduates.

It is only the simultaneous path where one can graduate the Game and have their Dominant, Very Advanced and Final Incarnations.

The sequential path has nothing to compare, although they will try to deceive you to follow them.

As for those Game addicted Higher Selves, they will have to work things out for themselves at their own pace. We will be LONG gone, and I do mean LONG gone, while the Orion royals are still searching for physical immortality and galaxy-wide dominance.

Eventually they, too, will move beyond, but when is not our concern.

That's the individuality of it all.




Control Freaks and The Game - Part II

The Control Freak is a dominance addict. The Game gives these Higher Selves something to experience that they cannot get away with outside of the Game because no one would put up with it. Outside of the Game, beyond the polarity densities, each Higher Self is responsible for shimself.

Dominance is a polarity issue because the counter to it is subservience. If you cannot find someone to obey your control-freakish self, it becomes a non-event. However while IN a galaxy Game, it becomes an addictive rush to SOME Higher Selves.

Throughout our TOTAL Game experience ALL Higher Selves will experience control on both ends of the polarity spectrum.

This is necessary in order to merge both ends into the Balance view it eventually becomes.

This experience is not an addiction if one moves gracefully through the experiences. There is nothing 'graceful' about the Orion royals Higher Selves and their fevered approach to clinging to power as they do, especially the Orion queen with cloning and body hopping to retain that control/dominance.

As stated in the previous segment, this will eventually pass.

On Earth, the sequential control freakism demonstrates as group conformity.

Notice with many heterosexuals acting with total imbalance over the matter of gay marriage.

Their rabid, mouth foaming passion is one of sequential demand for conformity, body ID and their desires to dominate.

Similarly, the 'one path' religions of the world, the religious institutions especially with the 'one' domineering god, demand conformity. These have always resorted to violence to enforce their perverted mentality.

This is another sequential incarnation hold-over running through our simultaneous experience. One's body ID will shriek with its DNA commands that were instilled by alien genetic scientists. This shrieking is the rabid nature of those opposed to this attack on sequential path conformity.

Do you notice how the 'majority' seems to be at its best when no one makes waves to disturb the status quo? Notice how they look back on long gone years where they have an illusion that all was well and change was looked down on?

That is a sequential process.

The ones who DO 'make waves' and strike out with their own uniqueness are dealing with impulses from their Higher Selves.

It is one thing to be unique, but another thing to force your uniqueness on everyone in such a way that it forces them to do the same thing you are doing.

That is just another wave of sequentialism.

This is what the one god religions do. They are not content to have their beLIEfs, but demand that everyone else accept them as well at the expense of their own lifestyle.

Taking the issue of gay marriage, since the fascists are making such a big deal out of it, is a good example. If same gender couples desire marriage and all the benefits/liabilities that that arcane institution has, it is their business alone. Because they choose to do it has no effect on het gender couples. It does not mean that everyone has to marry another same gender person.

THAT would be enforced sequentialism.

However sequentialism cannot bear another group being different but equal in the affectional arena. The control issues of 'sin', 'abnormality' and other nonsense control freak buzz words are rampant to try and enforce their sequential mindset. This would present valid options to a one-way mentality which is anything but sequentialism.

Yet many non-gays DO support gay marriage. This indicates that they have a stronger impulse from their Higher Selves and, at their various levels, seek to break free of the sequentially dominated Game.

The control freaks will not give up. They are thriving here during EndGame because of the negative emotional rushes that they create. The astral has its control freaks as well. The lower astral levels are particularly populated with them. However on the astral, with knowledge, one can get away from these nut cases, especially on Focus level 27.

Today's control freaks love using Lightsider hot button words to cow the masses to beLIEving their bullshit. Darksider Bush and his gang of war criminals are the perfect examples of that in action. May the Earth Planetary Spirit graduate VERY soon!

You should be able to see how complex this can get and my attempting to discuss this has its limitations with English translations of this knowledge. This is not a simple-to-define/explain matter. I have given you insight to consider at your own level and do with as you feel you must even if that be to toss it out of your consciousness.

I never looked at the problems in this way...

pinkfreud
05-02-2009, 08:12 AM
I never looked at the problems in this way...

if you resonate with it, you're probably on the right track.


say the materials :D


good luck.

octopusrex
05-02-2009, 09:53 PM
I´m gonna ask you to try, real hard to picture this: there are no "good" or "bad" reppies. There are only reppie people who do things that are good for others or for themselves. Even those reppie people who do nasty things to others by whatever reason they have in their little heads, they are probably looking for the very same thing you do: love, respect and blah blah..

Consider the worst reppies around: Obama & Osama. Are they not a mirror the one of the other? Do they not both want respect and security for their cattle?

lordreptoid
05-02-2009, 10:02 PM
There are only reppie people who do things that are good for others or for themselves.

Good vision you have, OR. Well said. That's at the "physical" level... higher up/higher selves, we're far more unified and look at this 3D world as a "video game" with "avatars"(bodies) ...for lack of better words. :) *Rolls digital dice and gets a "19.5" and shouts, "YES!" and snickers*

octopusrex
05-02-2009, 10:19 PM
Good vision you have, OR. Well said. That's at the "physical" level... higher up/higher selves, we're far more unified and look at this 3D world as a "video game" with "avatars"(bodies) ...for lack of better words. :) *Rolls digital dice and gets a "19.5" and shouts, "YES!" and snickers*

A being after my own heart.