After the chip

[marpat]

What if the microchip agenda is true and succeeds in fullness. The entire planet gets chipped and is controlled by a computer. What then?

Why would people need to be chipped to be slaves? people have lived as slaves from many years and still do in some countries, without being chipped. Also, if it is to produce slaves that do not think then why not just develop robots to do the work. A robot is fully controlled and is far more efficient at working than any human, it does not suffer from poor health and repairs are just a case of parts replacements. Robots do not eat or sleep or have doubts and fears, etc. As a work slave the robot is far superior to any human.

Apart from chipping people who are criminals or who ask for such things to monitor health then I cannot see any advantage of controlling people by chips.

[marpat]

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[queenofleon]

What if the microchip agenda is true and succeeds in fullness. The entire planet gets chipped and is controlled by a computer. What then?

Why would people need to be chipped to be slaves? people have lived as slaves from many years and still do in some countries, without being chipped. Also, if it is to produce slaves that do not think then why not just develop robots to do the work. A robot is fully controlled and is far more efficient at working than any human, it does not suffer from poor health and repairs are just a case of parts replacements. Robots do not eat or sleep or have doubts and fears, etc. As a work slave the robot is far superior to any human.

Apart from chipping people who are criminals or who ask for such things to monitor health then I cannot see any advantage of controlling people by chips.

I think whats important to bear in mind with the chip is that it can warp the body's electrics and basically render us apathetic to anything. It can make us ill, aggressive, you name it I suspect. Why spend zillions on robots when billions of us are already here? If they manipulate us human cattle into becoming docile slaves it will be alot more fun for those sick fucks wouldnt you say? Plus robots dont emmit the energy we do, so ultimately usless in a sacrifice.

[particlezen]

possibly to actively "advance" the species in a transhumanist direction, merging man and machine.

[marpat]

I think whats important to bear in mind with the chip is that it can warp the body's electrics and basically render us apathetic to anything. It can make us ill, aggressive, you name it I suspect. Why spend zillions on robots when billions of us are already here? If they manipulate us human cattle into becoming docile slaves it will be alot more fun for those sick fucks wouldnt you say? Plus robots dont emmit the energy we do, so ultimately usless in a sacrifice.


The cost would be expensive by any method. Humans require food, heating, health care, etc and this adds to the cost. If this is not provided they die so there is no option. A single robot could easily outperform several humans.

Why should human sacrifice matter? in the old days animals were used plenty. Nothing stoping them using cattle or sheep as has been traditional for thousands of years. I thought the whole idea of human sacrifices was supposed to be centred on the idea of getting access to our DNA.

I dont think fun is anything to do with it.

[queenofleon]

The cost would be expensive by any method. Humans require food, heating, health care, etc and this adds to the cost. If this is not provided they die so there is no option. A single robot could easily outperform several humans.

Why should human sacrifice matter? in the old days animals were used plenty. Nothing stoping them using cattle or sheep as has been traditional for thousands of years. I thought the whole idea of human sacrifices was supposed to be centred on the idea of getting access to our DNA.

I dont think fun is anything to do with it.


I mean fun by they enjoy it, cos they do.

Aaron Russo in his interview stated that Nick Rockerfella said that everything will be on this chip, our ID, our credit etc, and if we dont comply they turn the chip off. SO our labour will feed us as normal, we are slaves already just minus the chip that's all.

The bottom line is the elite know how special human beings are, how we can think and create anything we want. We are super powerful and they are scared if us uniting. They dont want us to think for ourselves, or go inward enough to remember who we truly are. So the chip is a means to an end, we will be like hamsters continously running round the wheel not ever getting anywhere, just powering the cogs of their corporations.



They need us, remember that.

[stfd]

What if the microchip agenda is true and succeeds in fullness. The entire planet gets chipped and is controlled by a computer. What then?

Why would people need to be chipped to be slaves? people have lived as slaves from many years and still do in some countries, without being chipped. Also, if it is to produce slaves that do not think then why not just develop robots to do the work. A robot is fully controlled and is far more efficient at working than any human, it does not suffer from poor health and repairs are just a case of parts replacements. Robots do not eat or sleep or have doubts and fears, etc. As a work slave the robot is far superior to any human.

Apart from chipping people who are criminals or who ask for such things to monitor health then I cannot see any advantage of controlling people by chips.

The things is we (we - meaning the human population as a whole) must all be turned into assets so to speak.
There is however A problem which they kept facing along the many years that have passed.

One may enslave another physically relativelly easily- ban and take all his possesions,ban him from peacefull gatherings,don't allow him to vote,interdict travelling,interdict free speech and the list goes on and on.
One such human is indeed a slave HOWEVER there is yet one 'thing' which is yet to be 'taken' or otherwise be 'given' away.

This one 'thing' is actually the most valuable asset of ours, THAT is the 'spark' so many on forums such as this one talk about. Is the 'thing' which some (such as myself) reffer to as souL.

Now this soul/spark which we posses can't really be 'taken' per se as it is immaterial or intangible hence it requires to actually be 'given away'.

Now to go back to the chip issue... if is not the most diabolical invention is for sure among the top ones, along with interest and few others.
The thing is that if one takes this chip his/her spark/souL has just been handed over and all is lost, all Lost completelly and for eternity.
All that once was a human beying is after the fact a walking piece of meat and bones.
And my gut feeling is that this will be taken down to one's CHOICE (as always) either die on your feet or leave on your knees(and without a soul).

There, my opinion.

[stfd]

correction-> Live*

[tusme]

Hi Marpat,

You seem to be ignoring 2 very important factors, re, the chip...

1) Those who seek to enslave and control us using chips, are essentially "luciferian"...unlike human-slaves, the energy of robots itself cannot be harvested...

& 2) Seem totally oblivious to the capabilities of technology...the manner in which TPTB intend utilizing the chip, will mean you & your Family's very survival will depend on that chip...!! :eek:

Cheers

[element]

What if the microchip agenda is true and succeeds in fullness. The entire planet gets chipped and is controlled by a computer. What then?

Why would people need to be chipped to be slaves? people have lived as slaves from many years and still do in some countries, without being chipped. Also, if it is to produce slaves that do not think then why not just develop robots to do the work. A robot is fully controlled and is far more efficient at working than any human, it does not suffer from poor health and repairs are just a case of parts replacements. Robots do not eat or sleep or have doubts and fears, etc. As a work slave the robot is far superior to any human.

Apart from chipping people who are criminals or who ask for such things to monitor health then I cannot see any advantage of controlling people by chips.

You will first need to chip and mind-control the people so they can make robots. Then you use your robots to kill all people!! :D

[dreamweaver]

The things is we (we - meaning the human population as a whole) must all be turned into assets so to speak.
There is however A problem which they kept facing along the many years that have passed.

One may enslave another physically relativelly easily- ban and take all his possesions,ban him from peacefull gatherings,don't allow him to vote,interdict travelling,interdict free speech and the list goes on and on.
One such human is indeed a slave HOWEVER there is yet one 'thing' which is yet to be 'taken' or otherwise be 'given' away.

This one 'thing' is actually the most valuable asset of ours, THAT is the 'spark' so many on forums such as this one talk about. Is the 'thing' which some (such as myself) reffer to as souL.

Now this soul/spark which we posses can't really be 'taken' per se as it is immaterial or intangible hence it requires to actually be 'given away'.

Now to go back to the chip issue... if is not the most diabolical invention is for sure among the top ones, along with interest and few others.
The thing is that if one takes this chip his/her spark/souL has just been handed over and all is lost, all Lost completelly and for eternity.
All that once was a human beying is after the fact a walking piece of meat and bones.
And my gut feeling is that this will be taken down to one's CHOICE (as always) either die on your feet or leave on your knees(and without a soul).

There, my opinion.

The closest analogy I can think of to this is Ringwraiths.

Not a fate I would like for myself or my descendants. :(

[marpat]

Hi Marpat,

You seem to be ignoring 2 very important factors, re, the chip...

1) Those who seek to enslave and control us using chips, are essentially "luciferian"...unlike human-slaves, the energy of robots itself cannot be harvested...

& 2) Seem totally oblivious to the capabilities of technology...the manner in which TPTB intend utilizing the chip, will mean you & your Family's very survival will depend on that chip...!! :eek:

Cheers

Oblivious to technology? I am an electronics technician. What do you do for a living.

I suppose your lucifarian idea depends if you buy into that particular theory.

Why can they not harvest animal energy? it would be far easier to do this and they would not need chips and a massive cover up to do it. At the end of the day if they only keep humans as animals then they will not get access to the higher energies of the human entity, just the base levels, which they could get from animals.

If you have the answers then lay it out, what do you think it will be like after the chip?

[marpat]

The things is we (we - meaning the human population as a whole) must all be turned into assets so to speak.
There is however A problem which they kept facing along the many years that have passed.

One may enslave another physically relativelly easily- ban and take all his possesions,ban him from peacefull gatherings,don't allow him to vote,interdict travelling,interdict free speech and the list goes on and on.
One such human is indeed a slave HOWEVER there is yet one 'thing' which is yet to be 'taken' or otherwise be 'given' away.

This one 'thing' is actually the most valuable asset of ours, THAT is the 'spark' so many on forums such as this one talk about. Is the 'thing' which some (such as myself) reffer to as souL.

Now this soul/spark which we posses can't really be 'taken' per se as it is immaterial or intangible hence it requires to actually be 'given away'.

Now to go back to the chip issue... if is not the most diabolical invention is for sure among the top ones, along with interest and few others.
The thing is that if one takes this chip his/her spark/souL has just been handed over and all is lost, all Lost completelly and for eternity.
All that once was a human beying is after the fact a walking piece of meat and bones.
And my gut feeling is that this will be taken down to one's CHOICE (as always) either die on your feet or leave on your knees(and without a soul).

There, my opinion.


All cannot be lost for eternity because death will bring that to an end.

[stfd]

The closest analogy I can think of to this is Ringwraiths.

Not a fate I would like for myself or my descendants. :(

HEY!
Very good analogy that is !

"and man who above all else desire power"

Pretty screwed up if you ask me.

cheers

[stfd]

All cannot be lost for eternity because death will bring that to an end.

Eternity is eternal ;)

Hence eternity is not afected by 'death'.

Death is not -the end- only part of life and hopefully, a new begining.

[tusme]

Oblivious to technology? I am an electronics technician. What do you do for a living.

I suppose your lucifarian idea depends if you buy into that particular theory.

Why can they not harvest animal energy? it would be far easier to do this and they would not need chips and a massive cover up to do it. At the end of the day if they only keep humans as animals then they will not get access to the higher energies of the human entity, just the base levels, which they could get from animals.

If you have the answers then lay it out, what do you think it will be like after the chip?
Hi Marpat,

Hmm, "Electronics Technician"...!? So why is it so difficult for you to see the "advantage of controlling people by chips."? :confused:

What I do for a living doesn't matter, does it...!? Put it this way, I would never under-estimate the potential of technology...!! :)

I exist as knowing and being Truth...hmm, so why would I want to buy into the "luciferian" idea/theory...!? :confused:

During their rituals they do actually harvest the energy of animals but it's the energy of humans (slaves) they desire most...!!

At the end of the day, all they desire is control & power...and no robot or animal energy will satisfy that desire as much a human's would...!!

As for what it would be like after the chip...!?

Well, besides all your personal details being stored in that chip, your entire financial status would be encrypted into such a device...meaning, if they changed that chip switch to 0, (GOD forbid) you and your Family are, quite literally, finished...kaput...out of the game...!! :eek:

As for the rest, I'll leave it to your imagination to work that out...!? ;)

Cheers

[marpat]

Hi Marpat,

Hmm, "Electronics Technician"...!? So why is it so difficult for you to see the "advantage of controlling people by chips."? :confused:

What I do for a living doesn't matter, does it...!? Put it this way, I would never under-estimate the potential of technology...!! :)

I exist as knowing and being Truth...hmm, so why would I want to buy into the "luciferian" idea/theory...!? :confused:

During their rituals they do actually harvest the energy of animals but it's the energy of humans (slaves) they desire most...!!

At the end of the day, all they desire is control & power...and no robot or animal energy will satisfy that desire as much a human's would...!!

As for what it would be like after the chip...!?

Well, besides all your personal details being stored in that chip, your entire financial status would be encrypted into such a device...meaning, if they changed that chip switch to 0, (GOD forbid) you and your Family are, quite literally, finished...kaput...out of the game...!! :eek:

As for the rest, I'll leave it to your imagination to work that out...!? ;)

Cheers

But the truth is that I can see many disadvantages. I dont fall into the trap of just thinking it is a case of inserting one and off you go. I know techonology can do many things and who said I underestimate it?

I only ask your employment because there are a lot of people in this forum who talk of top secret technology as if they know all about it, how it works and how it is used but for all their professed knowledge they cant even get a job that is technology based. If you ask them to explain principles of operation then they just start being rude or attempt to divert the questions and the result is that they never explain what they claim.

Please explain how energy can be harvested and to what end. The human is not a source of infinite energy if they have been disconnected from their higher state of being and will only yeald a limited amount of energy before they expire. How do you know that animal energy would not suffice? is the human not of animal body? if they are disconnected from their spirit then all they are is an animal. Why do they need a ritual to do this? a ritual is nothing more than a set of symbolic acts that is meant to convey ideas to the subconcious so why would they need a ritual to harvest energy?

If you are a slave with a chip will it matter what detail are on it what your financial state it? maybe they could just turn your brain off so that such things would not matter or even entere thought. If all they want you for is as a dumb slave then they can shut off every other aspect of thought including the desire for wealth. Why would they allow you to have money if you are a slave?

Leave it to the imagination? well I think that is the problem, peoples imaginations.

[tusme]

But the truth is that I can see many disadvantages. I dont fall into the trap of just thinking it is a case of inserting one and off you go. I know techonology can do many things and who said I underestimate it?

I only ask your employment because there are a lot of people in this forum who talk of top secret technology as if they know all about it, how it works and how it is used but for all their professed knowledge they cant even get a job that is technology based. If you ask them to explain principles of operation then they just start being rude or attempt to divert the questions and the result is that they never explain what they claim.

Please explain how energy can be harvested and to what end. The human is not a source of infinite energy if they have been disconnected from their higher state of being and will only yeald a limited amount of energy before they expire. How do you know that animal energy would not suffice? is the human not of animal body? if they are disconnected from their spirit then all they are is an animal. Why do they need a ritual to do this? a ritual is nothing more than a set of symbolic acts that is meant to convey ideas to the subconcious so why would they need a ritual to harvest energy?

If you are a slave with a chip will it matter what detail are on it what your financial state it? maybe they could just turn your brain off so that such things would not matter or even entere thought. If all they want you for is as a dumb slave then they can shut off every other aspect of thought including the desire for wealth. Why would they allow you to have money if you are a slave?

Leave it to the imagination? well I think that is the problem, peoples imaginations.
Well, in technology, even you should know, disadvantages are never a consideration...!!

If a technology ain't up to scratch, it will simply be scrapped and a newer version (of technology) installed/implimented...!!

Thats OK...I remember the thread where you and another discussed "top secret technology"...thought you both were merely showing-off...!! :D

Energy harvesting happens all the time...throughout our relationships with others, there is a exchange of energy... Take a Premeirship football game, the Glastenbury Music festival, 9/11 or even the recent Israeli/Gaza war, for example, all of those were merely energy harvesting events...!!

Animal energy would suffice but the reality is, these people do actually love animals...

All humans, through their Spirits, possess the source infinite energy (Truth)...!! However, how much they're connected to this source infinite energy (Truth), will depend entirely on their awareness/relationship with it...!! Thus, the weaker the connection, the easier it is to harvest that energy...!!

The "ultimate" energy harvest (for these people), however, would be, in the case of the celebrity culture, reality TV, MTV & the mainstream media, to name but a few, being successful in it's manipulation of the masses...!!

You see, Power & Control is all that matters to them...co's that is what keeps them at the top of the Pyramid...!!

I think, you're placing too much emphesis the "slave" issue...the reality is, with the chip, things will be a whole lot worse than being a slave...!!

With the chip, an entire Family/household could be targetted...!!

Hmm, what they want is a public clever enough to police each other but not clever enough to rise up against it's slave-masters...!! :eek:

Lastly, whichever way you look at it, it's all about energy...!!

Cheers

[shenoma]

As long as the man over there, who was nothing but work, despising sleep, eating and drinking mechanically,
pressed his fingers on the blue metal plate, which apart from himself, no man had ever touched, so long would
the voice of the machine-city of Metropolis roar for food, for food, for food...
She wanted living men for food.
Then the living food came pushing along in masses. Along the street it came, along its own street which never
crossed with other people's streets. It rolled on, a broad, an endless stream. The stream was twelve files deep.
They walked in even step. Men, men, men-all in the same uniform, from throat to ankle in dark blue linen,
bare feet in the same hard shoes, hair tightly pressed down by the same black caps.
And they all had the same faces. And they all appeared to be of the same age. They held themselves
straightened up, but not straight. They did not raise their heads, they pushed them forward. They planted their
feet forward, but they did not walk. The open gates of the New Tower of Babel, the machine center of
Metropolis, gulped the masses down.
Towards them, but past them, another procession dragged itself along, the shift just used. It rolled on, a broad,
an endless stream. The stream was twelve files deep. They walked in even step. Men, men, men-all in the
same uniform, from throat to ankle in dark blue linen, bare feet in the same hard shoes, hair tightly pressed
down by the same black caps. And they all had the same faces. And they all seemed one thousand years old.
They walked with hanging fists, they walked with hanging heads. No, they planted their feet forward but they
did not walk. The open gates of the New Tower of Babel, the machine centre of Metropolis, threw the masses
up as it gulped them down.
When the fresh living food had disappeared through the gates the roaring voice was silent at last. And the
never ceasing, throbbing hum of the great Metropolis became perceptible again, producing the effect of
silence, a deep relief. The man who was the great brain in the brain-pan of Metropolis had ceased to press his
fingers on the blue metal plate.
In ten hours he would let the machine brute roar anew. And in another ten hours, again. And always the same,
and always the same, without ever loosening the ten-hour clamp.
Metropolis did not know what Sunday was. Metropolis knew neither high days nor holidays. Metropolis had
the most saintly cathedral in the world, richly adorned with Gothic decoration. In times of which only the
chronicles could tell, the star-crowned Virgin on its tower used to smile, as a mother, from out her golden
mantle, deep, deep down upon the pious red rooves and the only companions of her graciousness were the
doves which used to nest in the gargoyles of the water-spouts and the bells which were called after the four
archangels and of which Saint Michael was the most magnificent.
It was said that the Master who cast it turned villain for its sake, for he stole consecrated and unconsecrated
silver, like a raven, casting it into the metal body of the bell. As a reward for his deed he suffered, on the place
of execution, the dreadful death on the wheel. But, it was said, he died exceedingly happy, for the Archangel
Michael rang him on his way to death so wonderfully, touchingly, that all agreed the saints must have
forgiven the sinner already, to ring the heavenly bells, thus, to receive him.
The bells still rang with their old, ore voices but when Metropolis roared, then Saint Michael itself was
hoarse. The New Tower of Babel and its fellow houses stretched their sombre heights high above the
cathedral spire, that the young girls in the work-rooms and wireless stations gazed down just as deep from the
thirtieth story windows on the star-crowned virgin as she, in earlier days, had looked down on the pious red
rooves. In place of doves, flying machines swarmed over the cathedral roof and over the city, resting on the
rooves, from which, at night glaring pillars and circles indicated the course of flight and landing points.
Chapter I 10

http://ia350606.us.archive.org/2/items/Metropolis_63/metropolis-1.pdf

[deca]

mad scientists (transhumanism)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=o7hh4jYvSKg



they probably don`t need chips _ Haarp -microwaves - mobile phone towers ect...


yep the human body is a prefect machine (think about it) destroy any individual thought & soul and insert your own controlling software


After the chip
hmmm don`t we get tight fitting black leathers and conqueror the universe in a cube shaped space ship

[hellosatellites]

They are hardly going to micro-chip all 7 billion people, or however many we currently are on the planet. They are probably going to get rid of the liabilities and weak links - ei. most of us - as we will eventually become useless and redundant compared to robots. It will be a gradual process of course. They will keep and micro-chip the humans that they still need for directly furthering their own interests, ei. the people who are selected for their imminence (or their dna) in some capacity or other; top-scientists, inventors, entrepreneurs, strategians, technicians, doctors and nurses, athletes, entertainers, artists, sex-workers, 'breeders' etc.

A wild thought: How many times has this already happened on this planet?

[vienna]

They are hardly going to micro-chip all 7 billion people, or however many we currently are on the planet. They are probably going to get rid of the liabilities and weak links - ei. most of us - as we will eventually become useless and redundant compared to robots. It will be a gradual process of course. They will keep and micro-chip the humans that they still need for directly furthering their own interests, ei. the people who are selected for their imminence (or their dna) in some capacity or other; top-scientists, inventors, entrepreneurs, strategians, technicians, doctors and nurses, athletes, entertainers, artists, sex-workers, 'breeders' etc.

A wild thought: How many times has this already happened on this planet?

they managed to get everyone on the money system - apart from isolated tribes within the amazon , but even the younger generation are corrupted - same difference getting everyone on the chip

[hellosatellites]

they managed to get everyone on the money system - apart from isolated tribes within the amazon , but even the younger generation are corrupted - same difference getting everyone on the chip

Hi Vienna

Absolutely, it would not be much of a problem getting us all microchipped...but why should they bother? We were useful for conducting experiments on, we served a purpose in getting them to where 'they' wanted to be (are they there yet?), they now have the wealth power technology and information they need to...whatever their incentive is: Maybe go live in the sky, in orbit in luxury spaceships, with earth as their 'garden of supply'? They only need a small group of "trusted" (microchipped) tech staff to run the various earth factories that is going to supply them with food, healthcare, sexworkers, entertainment, luxury items etc. It makes sense (well, illuminati sense, anyway) to have robots take over absolutely every possible function, because normal people with our liabilities, emotions, loyalties etc will be too much of a bloody nuisance and require too much survellience to keep an eye on. In this sort of set-up robots will be much more efficient.

Did you catch Chris Knowles' Dubai, Atlantis and Obama election symbolism? Well worth a watch, on youtube, or catch the first part on Ickes website under Todays Headlines.
A big part of that recent Atlantis show in Dubai could only be seen from space. That to me indicates that there is already people in space, and the show was in large for their benefit.
And now we have this peculiar news story about satellite 'collision' on tuesday 10th - apparantly a russian satellite being 'taken out' by an american ditto...hmmm...what to make of that?

These are interesting times we live in.

[shenoma]

The Chinese curse.:D



These are interesting times we live in.

[hellosatellites]

The Chinese curse.:D


oh dear i had no idea. just googled 'chinese curse' and sure enough :eek:
unfortunately the expression seems to be apt :(

[antinwo]

Well if we all get chipped we will be all robots period :D