The Jewish Board of Deputies has filed a complaint

[cheesedanish]

HRC - that is The South African Human Rights Commission.

www.inet.co.za - 1/28/2009 2:38 PM
Jews take Hajaig to HRC (http://news.za.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=8101936)

The Jewish Board of Deputies has filed a complaint of hate speech against deputy Foreign Affairs Minister Fatima Hajaig with the Human Rights Commission.

In a statement on Wednesday the board said the complaint was in response to Hajaig's alleged statements during an address in Lenasia, south of Johannesburg, on January 14.

She allegedly said: "They [Jews] control [America], no matter which government comes into power, whether Republican or Democratic, whether Barack Obama or George Bush... Their control of America, just like the control of most Western countries, is in the hands of Jewish money and if Jewish money controls their country then you cannot expect anything."

Board chairman Zev Krengel said: "The decision to lodge the complaint had not been taken lightly, but there had not been any realistic alternative.

"Not since the era of pro-Nazi Nationalist MPs more than half a century ago had such statements been made against Jews by a senior government official."

Board director Wendy Kahn described the alleged comments as "classic anti-Jewish stereotyping and conspiracy-theory mongering".

She said such comments were typically used by those seeking to portray Jews as scheming, manipulative and disloyal to the countries in which they lived.

"The Jewish community is outraged by such a public display of bigotry by a senior government representative. As South African citizens, we cannot allow this kind of comments to be brought into this country."

Foreign Affairs spokeswoman Nomfanelo Kota said she was out of the country and unaware of the allegations against Hajaig. She referred media queries to spokesman Ronny Mamoepa. Mamoepa was unavailable to comment immediately.

The Democratic Alliance has called for Hajaig to be sacked if she did not offer an immediate public apology.

Party spokeswoman Lindiwe Mazibuko said: "It is incumbent upon Hajaig to immediately apologise to the people of South Africa in general, the Jewish community in particular, and to US President Barack Obama.

"In this regard, it is telling that more than two weeks after she was requested to apologise by, amongst others, Zachie Achmat, Nathan Geffen, and Guy Berger, she has still not seen fit to do so.

"This makes it clear that she feels absolutely no contrition, nor believes her comments to have been offensive.

The Jewish Community in South Africa is up in arms at this statement by Hajaig - South African Deputy Foreign affairs ministers - if only they knew how true this statement is! They are now calling her to be fired for this Statement.

[fnulnu]

*sigh* well,at least she can go to sleep at night with a clear conscience.
She should've quoted Ariel Sharon.

http://www.mediamonitors.net/khodr49.html

On October 3, 2001, I.A.P. News reported that according to Israel Radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael an acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres. Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us. "Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America."

"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."

-- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".

[spectruma]

All these "human rights" PC regulators should be disbanded.

[drhemp]

oops, now we can't be saying things like this about the Jews, that's not allowed, silly woman

[lizzy]

*sigh* well,at least she can go to sleep at night with a clear conscience.
She should've quoted Ariel Sharon.

http://www.mediamonitors.net/khodr49.html

On October 3, 2001, I.A.P. News reported that according to Israel Radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael an acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres. Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us. "Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America."

"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."

-- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".

Indeed fnulnu , this is the most effective way...I think we need a thread for quotes like this.

[seercirra]

oops, now we can't be saying things like this about the Jews, that's not allowed, silly woman

fucking jews. hitler should have done a better job.

[drhemp]

I don't agree with killing whether it be 1,300, 300,000 or 6 million.

[haukipesukone]

fucking jews. hitler should have done a better job.

That's the thing, Hitler did his job all too well. If he hadn't done his job so well nobody would care about a few whiny Jews.

[boy better know]

fucking jews. hitler should have done a better job.

That's some bullshit. Why don't you take your hate mongering elsewhere?

Even as I write these words there are thousands of brave Israeli Jews fighting against Zionism from the inside. And as for the rest of the Israelis, well, yes many of them are culpable to a degree but they are heavily brainwashed

[haukipesukone]

That's some bullshit. Why don't you take your hate mongering elsewhere?

Even as I write these words there are thousands of brave Israeli Jews fighting against Zionism from the inside. And as for the rest of the Israelis, well, yes many of them are culpable to a degree but they are heavily brainwashed

Why don't you take your own advise and take your hate mongering elsewhere.

[bowtiedaddy]

Let's just put it this way. Imagine if you were Jewish, having people blaming you for the actions of a far off country that you don't give a shit about, and claiming that your entire race was responsible for something that only a few people are caught up in. Wouldn't you be a little nervous as well? It's the same reasons the Arabs are freaking out, they're being blamed for covert CIA operations, much in the same way that Jews are slowly being blamed for the same. Jews don't OWN any of this, there are merely some Jews that operate within it (just like any race).

Your own fucking aristocracy are more in control of the New World Order than the Jews. Jesus!

[morjo]

What ever happened to freedom of speech the west so proudly promotes?
It's ridiculous how people can get a criminal record, fined or imprisoned for comments like this.

You speak out against the minority of Jews who control a lot of the world and you get into trouble for it. Goes to show they have something to hide.

And there is no need to make blanket statements of hatred against all Jews, it's only a minority who are the bad ones.

[morjo]

Let's just put it this way. Imagine if you were Jewish, having people blaming you for the actions of a far off country that you don't give a shit about, and claiming that your entire race was responsible for something that only a few people are caught up in. Wouldn't you be a little nervous as well? It's the same reasons the Arabs are freaking out, they're being blamed for covert CIA operations, much in the same way that Jews are slowly being blamed for the same. Jews don't OWN any of this, there are merely some Jews that operate within it (just like any race).

Your own fucking aristocracy are more in control of the New World Order than the Jews. Jesus!

The Jews are not a race.

[spectruma]

Your own fucking aristocracy are more in control of the New World Order than the Jews. Jesus!

"Our own" aristocracies are long gone since the Judeo-Freemasonic French Revolution and similar ones worldwide.

[lumukanda]

It's almost Supernatural is a south african pro-israeli blog, and they're having a field day with this!

i read some of it today, after reading some john pilger on palestine, and tbh it actually made me sick.

http://supernatural.blogs.com/weblog/2009/01/response-to-fatima-hajaigs-anti-jewish-cabal.html

[spectruma]

That's the thing, Hitler did his job all too well. If he hadn't done his job so well nobody would care about a few whiny Jews.

You really believe that?? :) Incredible.

Hitler is incidental to the development of World Jewry and the JCN.

If anything, he put up a small resistance to the Jewish Crime Network and this evolved into a huge historical event.

Organised Jewry would be as powerful if not more powerful if Hitler never arrived on the scene.

[seercirra]

Quote: By Me

"fucking jews. hitler should have done a better job."

LOL! sorry i was really pissed off and a little drunk when i write that, i think.

[bowtiedaddy]

The Jews are not a race.

Some are, actually. You are correct to a point. Unfortunately for myself (seriously) I am actually partially racially Jewish (mixed with Cherokee and Russian).

I wish I wasn't, seriously. I fucking HATE zionism and the NWO. I feel great love and connection to all of humanity. I am actually a bit disconcerted when I experience hostility from people who share the same dream for mankind (freedom, love, peace, creativity).

[bowtiedaddy]

Quote: By Me

"fucking jews. hitler should have done a better job."

LOL! sorry i was really pissed off and a little drunk when i write that, i think.

Here is someone who only exists by a slim margin. Almost my entire family tree was wiped out by the many crusades against the Jews. My family has been traced to have been almost wiped out in the Spanish Inquisition, the Russian Pogroms, AND Nazi Germany. There are a few Zionists in my extended family, but pretty much my entire family are just normal hard working folks. Zionism is closer to Naziism in many ways. It was created by Nazis. There are a group of people who claim to be Jews but are not, which are the biggest proponents of Zionism . Jews had a much closer relationship with Muslims before Europeans got involved.

So many Jews who had no religious disposition, even completely secular were wiped out just because of their lineages. So many freedom loving innocent Jews were slaughtered in the name of a few sons of bitches who sold out their own people.

Hitler WAS the New World Order. To embrace him, is to embrace the New World Order. The only reason he failed is because he went crazy from complications due to Syphilis.

Jews are no better or worse than anyone. The chosen people concept is just another mindless mantra, along with every other deist middle eastern religion. They all claim to be the "chosen of God". None of them are right. All of humanity are chosen. We are all one.

[bowtiedaddy]

You really believe that?? :) Incredible.

Hitler is incidental to the development of World Jewry and the JCN.

If anything, he put up a small resistance to the Jewish Crime Network and this evolved into a huge historical event.

Organised Jewry would be as powerful if not more powerful if Hitler never arrived on the scene.

Hitler was the last attempt at the New World Order. The problem is, the US was originaly designated to be the New World Order, but it didn't work out as well, so they tried to pull it off in Germany, and then in Russia... Then the US again, now it appears it's going back to England again.

[655321]

*sigh* well,at least she can go to sleep at night with a clear conscience.
She should've quoted Ariel Sharon.

http://www.mediamonitors.net/khodr49.html

On October 3, 2001, I.A.P. News reported that according to Israel Radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael an acrimonious argument erupted during the Israeli cabinet weekly session last week between Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and his foreign Minister Shimon Peres. Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us. "Sharon reportedly yelled at Peres, saying "don't worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America."

"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."

-- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".

Peres isn't his real name. He changed it from a fake Ashkenazi name to a Sephardic real Jew name.

[fnulnu]

Peres isn't his real name. He changed it from a fake Ashkenazi name to a Sephardic real Jew name.

Many did.It's commonplace to assume a mizrachi-sounding surname when "making aliyah",or invading Palestine.
If the original "pioneers" had kept their names,you'd pick up the telephone directory today and think it was the eastern block.

[wise haven]

Does nobody here understand that Jew and Zionist are not interchangeable?

Zionist and Islamist are political, not racial or religious, descriptions.

Is that a difficult concept to handle?

[cheesedanish]

Hajaig apologises for Jewish tirade (http://www.ewn.co.za/articleprog.aspx?id=5600)


"To the extent that my statement may have caused hurt and pain, I offer an unequivocal apology for the pain it may have caused to the people of our country and the Jewish community in particular"
Deputy Foreign Affairs Minister Fatima Hajaig has apologised for what was perceived as anti-Semitic remarks made at a rally last month.

Hajaig was quoted as saying that the control of America just like the control of most western countries, was in the hands of Jewish money.

The statement caused outrage among the Jewish community but Hajaig said that she was referring to the Gaza conflict, and did not mean to offend the public.

“I regret the inference made by some that I am anti-Jewish. I do not believe that the cause of the Palestinians is served by any anti-Jewish racism. As a member of the South African government, I subscribed to the values and principles of non-racism and condemn without equivocation all forms of racism including anti-Semitism,” said Hajaig.

Hajaig apologised by saying: “To the extent that my statement may have caused hurt and pain, I offer an unequivocal apology for the pain it may have caused to the people of our country and the Jewish community in particular.”




I still don't understand why the statement was anti-Semitic in the first place but you have to be Politically Correct these days!

[fnulnu]

I still don't understand why the statement was anti-Semitic in the first place but you have to be Politically Correct these days!

Thanks for posting an update on this.

* fails to think-up an aside,containing references to Africa's natural resources,Tel-Aviv and laundering *

[belial]

Does nobody here understand that Jew and Zionist are not interchangeable?

Zionist and Islamist are political, not racial or religious, descriptions.

Is that a difficult concept to handle?


I agree...

But try telling that to the MSM to which most people adhere to.

Banging one's head against a wall comes to mind.

[spectruma]

Does nobody here understand that Jew and Zionist are not interchangeable?

Zionist and Islamist are political, not racial or religious, descriptions.

Is that a difficult concept to handle?

Are you wittingly lying, or are you just ignorant of the facts?

Zionism does have its roots in religion (i.e. the Talmud). Jewish supremacism and disregard for non-Jews (Gentiles). We see that every day in the treatment of Palestinians. This Jewish supremacism is detailed in the Talmud.

Synagogues regularly sing the Israeli national anthem, and of course the symbol of the Israeli State is a religious one - it is the Star of Moloch.

Zionism is a political movement which roots back into Jewish racial interest and Jewish religion (Talmudism).

It is arguable as to whether "Islamism" is political - I would say it is not.

Zionist and Islamist are political, not racial or religious, descriptions.

Is that a difficult concept to handle?

I agree...

But try telling that to the MSM to which most people adhere to.

The Jewish mainstream media has virtually no critical dissection of the Zionist issue. Like most things relating to the Jews (the magic chosen people) "it just isn't discussed".

As much, the average Joe doesn't have any real opinions on Zionism going by the MSM; except that he has to accept it.

[spectruma]

"To the extent that my statement may have caused hurt and pain, I offer an unequivocal apology for the pain it may have caused to the people of our country and the Jewish community in particular"
Deputy Foreign Affairs Minister Fatima Hajaig has apologised for what was perceived as anti-Semitic remarks made at a rally last month.

I really can't stand this kind of crap. The least you can do if you're making statements like this is stick by them.

Hitler was the last attempt at the New World Order.

No Hitler was the last attempt at resistance to the New World Order.

Zionism is closer to Naziism in many ways.

Flat out lie. Zionism has no ideological relationship with Nazism. And in any event Zionism is worse than Nazism.

It was created by Nazis.

First Zionist World Congress, 1897- Hitler was 6 years of age at the time:

http://worldmeets.us/images/FirstZionistCongress.jpg

The Jewish State by Theodore Herzl, the seminal Zionist work. First published in 1896 - when Hitler was 5.

http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/images/10007784-p.jpg