"The Rh-negative Factor:" "Reptilian Traits":

[lightgiver]

The Reptilians are tracking those with Rh-Negative Factor Blood. Going back into time....the Rh-Neg Hybrids came from the DRACO Caverns in the Carpathian Mountains. They were mostly RED Haired, with Green Eyes and Black haired, with Brown Eyes. They tried to infiltrate themselves into the Blond/Brown Haired, with Blue Eyes, Civilization. They wanted to Mate with those who were not Rh-Negatives. Most Rh-Negs have a Lower Body temperature and Blood pressure than Rh-Positives. Many Rh-Negs are born with a CAUDA(tail) or an Extra Vertebra (Tail Bone). Rh-Negs are Hybrids. They are Part Reptilian/part human. If two Rh-Negs try to have a baby it will usually die or be born a "BLUE Baby", because it is Not processing oxygen properly. Thus "Blue-Bloods", if they survive. 5% of the Earth's population are currently Rh-Negatives. But, they are 15% of the population of the England and the USA.

http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199a.shtml

[lightgiver]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9056618489070227682

Thanks :)

[thelyran]

...I am A- rhesus factor blooded.Have been tracked and attacked by an inbred occult line for 9 years.The occultist,2 males black headed one brown eyed,one blue eyed...the two girls,two sisters,both redheads with green eyes.
What you have written here is completely true.Always disagreed with Icke on the blonde most likely to be possessed,they are mostly the redheads.
The boys,psychologically are more feminine in attitude than the girls,who are more dominant,vicious,generally nastier.They laugh at people being raped or violated and say"see how I feel,met them eye to eye,the males are anger and fear filled,the females defiant and insane.
I'm brown hair,brown eyed,widows peak,vicious temper if crossed,but mostly jovial and happy,content.Hope this adds to your research.

[lightgiver]

...I am A- rhesus factor blooded.Have been tracked and attacked by an inbred occult line for 9 years.The occultist,2 males black headed one brown eyed,one blue eyed...the two girls,two sisters,both redheads with green eyes.
What you have written here is completely true.Always disagreed with Icke on the blonde most likely to be possessed,they are mostly the redheads.
The boys,psychologically are more feminine in attitude than the girls,who are more dominant,vicious,generally nastier.They laugh at people being raped or violated and say"see how I feel,met them eye to eye,the males are anger and fear filled,the females defiant and insane.
I'm brown hair,brown eyed,widows peak,vicious temper if crossed,but mostly jovial and happy,content.Hope this adds to your research.

I did not write it, info i feel needs sharing,did you click on link,and it is true what you say.:)

Fiery redheads, tempers flare up easily,:D i have forgot what i am researching.;)

But i am of the conclusion,it is ET associated.

[thelyran]

I did not write it, info i feel needs sharing,did you click on link,and it is true what you say.:)

Fiery redheads, tempers flare up easily,:D

here you are...check my post 85,been saying the same thing for years...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20505&page=9

...hope this further compliments your thread sir,regards Jason

[lightgiver]

here you are...check my post 85,been saying the same thing for years...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20505&page=9

...hope this further compliments your thread sir,regards Jason

and i have been thinking it for years;)

we all should read these threads and posts more thoroughly;):D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31736&page=23

Now that is weird;) brown hair and eyes myself also;) and mi dads a reddy brown,and i have a temper also especially at in justices.

[thelyran]

and i have been thinking it for years;)

we all should read these threads and posts more thoroughly;):D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31736&page=23

Now that is weird;) brown hair and eyes myself also;) and mi dads a reddy brown,and i have a temper also especially at in justices.

...just read that post,interesting.Pity i can't click on the vids till next month,out of broadband...so will view at the change of the month and let your thread know then,Good to see you at least,have an open mind.:)

[thelyran]

...weird,I have had dozens of UFO experiences going back to child-hood when I lived on a tropical Island,Lord howe Is...I even have been attacked by them,well at least that was my interpretation...I'll find a link...hang on.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50837&page=4

post 36...and I have been called a reptilian more than once,but I defend my human position vehemently...pure human consciousness...I'm mostly aboriginal,Irish and Southern French in racial make-up.

[lightgiver]

...weird,I have had dozens of UFO experiences going back to child-hood when I lived on a tropical Island,Lord howe Is...I even have been attacked by them,well at least that was my interpretation...I'll find a link...hang on.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50837&page=4

post 36...and I have been called a reptilian more than once,but I defend my human position vehemently...pure human consciousness...I'm mostly aboriginal,Irish and Southern French in racial make-up.

I feel that is what i am trying ti find out, the origins,my auntie was fascinated by this also,so i am just trying to finish what she started.;) al i am aware of is a Irish connection,my woman as French connections,pardon the pun;)and i am also trying to find hers out also,

do you know any tribes of Israel information:confused::)

http://jahtruth.net/socio.htm just of interest.

avoid any type of buying.

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=ksoGTFzlb3c

check it out at 4.00.

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=ksoGTFzlb3c

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=bDIG-C7pnmc

[thelyran]

I feel that is what i am trying ti find out, the origins,my auntie was fascinated by this also,so i am just trying to finish what she started.;) al i am aware of is a Irish connection,my woman as French connections,pardon the pun;)and i am also trying to find hers out also,

do you know any tribes of Israel information:confused::)

http://jahtruth.net/socio.htm just of interest.

avoid any type of buying.

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=bDIG-C7pnmc

...no,my father is the one with celtic blood,he was staunch anti-jew,Zionist to us...then again,dad was anti-everyone and a real bastard,Gaol warden you see.But he believed me with the occultist and actually tracked them down with his contacts.I remember he left Freemasonary back in 1978,he said it
was over money,bullshit.He was scared,and he is one of the old tough guys...
...tribes of Israel to me is a euphenism for bloodline,nothing to do with Israel or religeous belief,I could be wrong and know very little.Most of my family
relations were hidden from me and was not allowed to meet them,we had a very insular family,I was'nt even allowed to have many friends,my mother never approved of any girlfriend I had...and to this day have had no contact with them,even though they are dying wretchedly,disease.Even my own children get the creeps from them.
The french Connection...hahahahahaha,merovigian(can't even spell it)...
damn.

[lightgiver]

...no,my father is the one with celtic blood,he was staunch anti-jew,Zionist to us...then again,dad was anti-everyone and a real bastard,Gaol warden you see.But he believed me with the occultist and actually tracked them down with his contacts.I remember he left Freemasonary back in 1978,he said it
was over money,bullshit.He was scared,and he is one of the old tough guys...
...tribes of Israel to me is a euphenism for bloodline,nothing to do with Israel or religeous belief,I could be wrong and know very little.Most of my family
relations were hidden from me and was not allowed to meet them,we had a very insular family,I was'nt even allowed to have many friends,my mother never approved of any girlfriend I had...and to this day have had no contact with them,even though they are dying wretchedly,disease.Even my own children get the creeps from them.
The french Connection...hahahahahaha,merovigian(can't even spell it)...
damn.

sounds harsh,my parents are strict but of good heart they only had moi so it wasn't to hard for them,

so the tribes of Israel may just be bloodline connected.,and your mother sounds like my mother,that's mothers for you,a little over protecting.

Thanks for the info btw.

[thelyran]

sounds harsh,my parents are strict but of good heart they only had moi so it wasn't to hard for them,

so the tribes of Israel may just be bloodline connected.,and your mother sounds like my mother,that's mothers for you,a little over protecting.

Thanks for the info btw.


...glad to be of assistance,there's a member here,who was part of an elite bloodline,used in psy-ops warfare,loaned out to various military departments
and intelligence corps,won't say who it is,not my place...but I'm sure,he'd know more about elites and bloodline.Incidently in the same family,my dads brother,all had a son born on the same day,with the same name,even middle name,as myself...trippy,like I said,I was hidden from most...don't understand why.Now I will never know either.There's old super8 film of me smoking and inhaling cigarettes at the age of 4...they'd get into trouble for that now...hahahaha.:D

[lightgiver]

I think RH negs are or could be reptilian hybrids,through interbreeding over the centuries BCE;) if you believe in reptilians.

check out PG 39 the biggest secret,that accounts for hyper sensitivity to noise feelings etc,because we all just did not just pop up from no where,:D:D.

http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110399a.shtml

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005

and this link above reckons d icke is being used by the bloodlines check it out.

and,

Joshua claims from the Biblical quotes that, Rh-negative blood originated from the Watcher angels who interbred with human women during the pre-flood era, eventually producing giants known as nephilims. The watcher angels were quoted as such in the book of Enoch and as "sons of God" in Genesis 6,4. The allele pattern of this genetic survival has led to speculations of Rh-negative genes passed on to Enoch, Noah and the post-flood humanity. The blood of Jesus is sourced as Rh-negative (AB) from the shroud evidence.

http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200816/1216205419.html

http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/rhneg.htm

[lightgiver]

Sorry mere mortals :D:p:D

B L O O D O F T H E G O D S

Are you an Rh Negative blood type? If so you could be a
descendent of the ancient astronauts themselves!


Genesis 6:2 "The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and took them wives, all of which they chose." Who were the children of these marriages? Genesis 6:4 "God came into the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, and the same became mighty of old." From the King James Bible dictionary we find: "menchildren - men of Israel, male children of God, not children of man - Ex. 34:23." Ex. 34:7 states "The iniquity of the father will be unto the children unto the fourth generation." It is plain that something is inherited, could it be the blood?

http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/rhneg.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhesus_blood_group_system

[unusual_suspect]

My dad is RH negative, but my brother & me and my son are not, as far as I know he has no reptillian traits, my mum has very low blood pressure, and so do I and I am cold all the time, but my mum and I are both RH positive.

[lightgiver]

My dad is RH negative, but my brother & me and my son are not, as far as I know he has no reptillian traits, my mum has very low blood pressure, and so do I and I am cold all the time, but my mum and I are both RH positive.

Hi US,

what do you define as rep traits :)

Crazy snakes.;):D or baby snakes,

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ntn8yfOmIA

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=WHWnZtfgFys

[unusual_suspect]

Hi US,

what do you define as rep traits :)

Crazy snakes.;):D

Uh, actually I don't know to be honest, what would you define as rep traits? :D

[lightgiver]

Uh, actually I don't know to be honest, what would you define as rep traits? :D

The brain stem is the oldest and smallest region in the evolving human brain. It evolved hundreds of millions of years ago and is more like the entire brain of present-day reptiles. For this reason, it is often called the 'reptilian brain'. Various clumps of cells in the brain stem determine the brain's general level of alertness and regulate the vegetative processes of the body such as breathing and heartbeat.

It's similar to the brain possessed by the hardy reptiles that preceded mammals, roughly 200 million years ago. It's 'preverbal', but controls life functions such as autonomic brain, breathing, heart rate and the fight or flight mechanism. Lacking language, its impulses are instinctual and ritualistic. It's concerned with fundamental needs such as survival, physical maintenance, hoarding, dominance, preening and mating. It is also found in lower life forms such as lizards, crocodiles and birds. It is at the base of your skull emerging from your spinal column.

Maybe and some may have more than others and where did it come from,a lot of unanswered questions because the Official version of history is BS,a bit like the Official 911 BS story, and we are all aware a small minority run the majority ;):D

http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilianbrain.html Maybe? and some ET interbreeding etc etc.

There is no missing link and darwins theory is not right only in parts,why do we still have monkeys apes chimps etc its just that some cannot be bothered to work it out, i am different i would like to know.

[unusual_suspect]

One of the last times I ever smoked pot I had an epiphany that we are all actually the "reptillians" however, this is why I don't smoke weed, I have an overactive imagination as it is and sometimes I wish I had chosen the blue pill, to late now though.

But yep, I have read that we all have the reptillian part of the brain.

[lightgiver]

One of the last times I ever smoked pot I had an epiphany that we are all actually the "reptillians" however, this is why I don't smoke weed, I have an overactive imagination as it is and sometimes I wish I had chosen the blue pill, to late now though.

But yep, I have read that we all have the reptillian part of the brain.

What do you fear i for one would like the TRUTH whether its a reptilian one or not,and yes to much weed not good;):)

red pill any day.Life is to short.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0817-13.htm

Everything is just a memory enjoy the illusion but be aware where you are IMHO;) don't let the B$%£$£% grind you down.

Nature is bliss.

[rhydra]

I was thinking about the basic core of the brain, it is said to be the "lower life form" of the human brain but since it has been around a long time there must be secrets within. Only about a tenth, or less, of the brain is said to be used, some people with deformities or accidents managed to get by quite happily with half their brain in absentia. What is hidden in the reptilian brain? Well, maybe telepathy, the seat of astral travel, telekinesis, ancient memories?

[unusual_suspect]

So Lightgiver, are you saying that RH negative people are more reptilian than RH positive people, if so, how does this manifest itself?

[marpat]

The Reptilians are tracking those with Rh-Negative Factor Blood. Going back into time....the Rh-Neg Hybrids came from the DRACO Caverns in the Carpathian Mountains. They were mostly RED Haired, with Green Eyes and Black haired, with Brown Eyes. They tried to infiltrate themselves into the Blond/Brown Haired, with Blue Eyes, Civilization. They wanted to Mate with those who were not Rh-Negatives. Most Rh-Negs have a Lower Body temperature and Blood pressure than Rh-Positives. Many Rh-Negs are born with a CAUDA(tail) or an Extra Vertebra (Tail Bone). Rh-Negs are Hybrids. They are Part Reptilian/part human. If two Rh-Negs try to have a baby it will usually die or be born a "BLUE Baby", because it is Not processing oxygen properly. Thus "Blue-Bloods", if they survive. 5% of the Earth's population are currently Rh-Negatives. But, they are 15% of the population of the England and the USA.

http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199a.shtml

I am B-neg and know that some of the attributes listed are bullshit. My wife always moans that my temperature is very warm rather than cold and I do not have any extra bits an pieces.

Blue babies are nothing to do with both parents being rh neg but only the mother.

havent you covered this in the other rh neg thread that you are posting in?

[lightgiver]

I am B-neg and know that some of the attributes listed are bullshit. My wife always moans that my temperature is very warm rather than cold and I do not have any extra bits an pieces.

Blue babies are nothing to do with both parents being rh neg but only the mother.

havent you covered this in the other rh neg thread that you are posting in?

So if its BS what are you bothered about then,??

b neg is not o neg,you must be inferior its obvious in your behaviour. No empathy.

[unusual_suspect]

So if its BS what are you bothered about then,??

b neg is not o neg,you must be inferior its obvious in your behaviour. No empathy.

What about a neg, my dad is a neg, is he a reptillian? :confused:

[lightgiver]

What about a neg, my dad is a neg, is he a reptillian? :confused:

I do not know what is going on in his brain,ask him,;)

i think people are getting confused here,its not about being warm or cold or turning into a reptile, i feel it is about emotion, feeling intuition compassion, higher conciousness, empathy with others, love etc etc some are more caring than others should we say.

[unusual_suspect]

I do not know what is going on in his brain,ask him,;)

Jesus, are you serious he's well scarey, when I started trying to tell him about chemtrails he told me to shut up or get the fuck out of his house! I was hoping you could tell me.

[lightgiver]

Jesus, are you serious he's well scarey, when I started trying to tell him about chemtrails he told me to shut up or get the fuck out of his house! I was hoping you could tell me.

I would not like or enjoy coming across ya dad:eek::D well that sums it up,he must be B neg,bloody negative;):D

[unusual_suspect]

I would not like or enjoy coming across ya dad:eek::D well that sums it up,he must be B neg,bloody negative;):D

Yeah, he gets Tesco rage, he told some woman to get the fuck out of his way once, and when some old lady tutted at him, he had a go at her an all.

He does make me laugh though! :D

He is not always like that though, if you leave him to chat to his mates on the computer he is fine.

Are you RH neg?

[lightgiver]

Yeah, he gets Tesco rage, he told some woman to get the fuck out of his way once, and when some old lady tutted at him, he had a go at her an all.

He does make me laugh though! :D

He is not always like that though, if you leave him to chat to his mates on the computer he is fine.

Are you RH neg?

I know good people with bad tempers,moi:D:D your dad sounds like a few people i know,hearts of gold though;) i have had a few supermarket tantrums especially queuing up like cattle,i do not like that, it reminds me of something,i actually walked out of one here in France not long ago,i did get some funny looks,ha ha who cares i am not a cattle person.parler vous anglais.

yes rh o neg here,but what difference does it make??

[lordreptoid]

I presented much of TAL's information to David Icke about the Basque race being primarily Rh negative (just like some other races, although less so) before "Children of the matrix" was published after our private meeting where David interviewed me about my encounters and research (1998) which I'd been speaking about publicly since 1987. Some of this data is correct, other parts less so (opinions). What's true is copper plays a role with Rh negative people and "blue bloods" of which there are millions upon the Earth scattered everywhere. Rh negatives are hybrids of a most reptilian variety and sometimes after being born do not even live because they cannot adapt to the Earthly atmosphere easily. The "Royal disease" is "Blue blood" related for this very same reason. Rh negative. UFO/ET contacts tend to happen mostly 95% with Rh negative bloodlines - so if you are Rh negative, keep your eyes on the skies, you could have some action in your future or past. Some Rh negatives are born with scales on their body or even a tail, this is true. Some have scales or a tail but are not Rh negative also, but this is more rare.

By request to my private in-box I can post TAL's data in de-tail here, just remind me of this page with a link if you really want the data in it's raw form sent to Icke long ago about these facts.

Blessings.

PS: Freckles (rather than tanning) are also a Rh negative trait not mentioned here yet from what I've seen. The "firey red head" reputation exists for a reason. Confidence and self-determination are their trade-mark also.

[tiamet2012]

Ya know Im begining to think Im a reptillian human here lately cause it all fits.....wow...makes me think what I am...........wow..

[tiamet2012]

Ok now your spooking me....when I was a kid I was told I had a tail when I was born....and other body part they wacked off...lol giggle* but but in all seriousness
The copper thing copper when i was a kid introduced to me.........to wear it.........? It was suppose to help me...
Ever study or know the tecniques for meditation with a triangle on the ground made out of wire? ever here of this ? just wire that electricity goes through told if I stood in the middle of it it would heal me..........well, never took care of the lazy eye and I ate enough carrots to kill a horse itself...
Just thought I would ask about the copper a bit......thanks!

[lightgiver]

Ok now your spooking me....when I was a kid I was told I had a tail when I was born....and other body part they wacked off...lol giggle* but but in all seriousness
The copper thing copper when i was a kid introduced to me.........to wear it.........? It was suppose to help me...
Ever study or know the tecniques for meditation with a triangle on the ground made out of wire? ever here of this ? just wire that electricity goes through told if I stood in the middle of it it would heal me..........well, never took care of the lazy eye and I ate enough carrots to kill a horse itself...
Just thought I would ask about the copper a bit......thanks!

and the foetus when developing in the womb appears like many different animals;)

http://badcontrol.com/?p=302

Is the Human Embryo Essentially a Fish with Gills?

Embryologists are now aware that the embryos of each species of animal are unique and dynamically functional systems. The human embryo does not become human at some point during its development, rather it is uniquely human at every stage of its development. While scientists continue to learn much about the marvelous process of development in the embryo, the inspired words of King Solomon (Ecclesiastes 11:5) remain true:

"As you do not know the path of the wind, or how the body is formed in a mother's womb, so you cannot understand the work of God, the Maker of all things."
http://www.gennet.org/facts/metro06.html

[lordreptoid]

and the foetus when developing in the womb appears like many different animals

The HUMAN GENOME is 90% "Junk DNA". That's what science calls it because they have yet to find a use for it... but it's there alright. 90% is an awful lot of DNA that's supposedly TOTALLY UNUSED by what we call "us". So what's actually using this DNA if anything? We are spirits, souls as it were, and our "light" attached itself to these bodies we drive around, so much so that we forget everything else in existence, and we are only using 10% of the DNA for everything we see, smell, touch, taste and hear? And then we have sex to make hybrid copies of ourselves and on and on it goes... 10% capacity at best! 90% totally unused by passed on time and time again. Does this not make the mind wander as to what's really going on here and what we are carying within us every day of our lives and how this relates to other worlds, physical forms and realities? What if our "light" could ACTIVATE some of this other DNA?... what would happen? What incantations are the correct keys to unlocking such a door, if any exist? DNA is the code which decides everything from your eye colour to if you even have eyes or skin vs scales for that matter. Everything is decided there inside your living light activated DNA - And like a computer code it has "stops" and "returns" in it. Codes which say, basicly, "Stop here, you're done." Or "End of this thread, return to where you came from and continue there." - Just like a computer code. We are walking bloatware with all these codes that are NOT accessed by the rest of our DNA command lines. Just imagine if ONE LITTLE CODE WITHIN OUR DNA said "Jump to strand 34867 and execute to completion." what we might actually look like, or be able to do, or what our LIGHT BODIES might be able to fully access! Just imagine who else we truly are, right here, right now, sleeping in permanent screen saver mode at a whopping 10% CPU capacity. :)

"We therefore have in the genetic code an immensely complex instruction manual that has been majestically designed by a more intelligent source than human beings."

Amazing revelations about DNA

As scientists began to decode the human DNA molecule, they found something quite unexpected—an exquisite 'language' composed of some 3 billion genetic letters. "One of the most extraordinary discoveries of the twentieth century," says Dr. Stephen Meyer, director of the Center for Science and Culture at the Discovery Institute in Seattle, Wash., "was that DNA actually stores information—the detailed instructions for assembling proteins—in the form of a four-character digital code" (quoted by Lee Strobel, The Case for a Creator, 2004, p. 224).

It is hard to fathom, but the amount of information in human DNA is roughly equivalent to 12 sets of The Encyclopaedia Britannica—an incredible 384 volumes" worth of detailed information that would fill 48 feet of library shelves!

Yet in their actual size—which is only two millionths of a millimeter thick—a teaspoon of DNA, according to molecular biologist Michael Denton, could contain all the information needed to build the proteins for all the species of organisms that have ever lived on the earth, and "there would still be enough room left for all the information in every book ever written" (Evolution: A Theory in Crisis, 1996, p. 334).

Who or what could miniaturize such information and place this enormous number of 'letters' in their proper sequence as a genetic instruction manual? Could evolution have gradually come up with a system like this?

DNA contains a genetic language

Let's first consider some of the characteristics of this genetic 'language.' For it to be rightly called a language, it must contain the following elements: an alphabet or coding system, correct spelling, grammar (a proper arrangement of the words), meaning (semantics) and an intended purpose.

Scientists have found the genetic code has all of these key elements. "The coding regions of DNA," explains Dr. Stephen Meyer, "have exactly the same relevant properties as a computer code or language" (quoted by Strobel, p. 237, emphasis in original).

The only other codes found to be true languages are all of human origin. Although we do find that dogs bark when they perceive danger, bees dance to point other bees to a source and whales emit sounds, to name a few examples of other species" communication, none of these have the composition of a language. They are only considered low-level communication signals.

The only types of communication considered high-level are human languages, artificial languages such as computer and Morse codes and the genetic code. No other communication system has been found to contain the basic characteristics of a language.

Bill Gates, founder of Microsoft, commented that "DNA is like a software program, only much more complex than anything we've ever devised."

Can you imagine something more intricate than the most complex program running on a supercomputer being devised by accident through evolution—no matter how much time, how many mutations and how much natural selection are taken into account?

DNA language not the same as DNA molecule

Recent studies in information theory have come up with some astounding conclusions—namely, that information cannot be considered in the same category as matter and energy. It's true that matter or energy can carry information, but they are not the same as information itself.

For instance, a book such as Homer's Iliad contains information, but is the physical book itself information? No, the materials of the book—the paper, ink and glue contain the contents, but they are only a means of transporting it.

If the information in the book was spoken aloud, written in chalk or electronically reproduced in a computer, the information does not suffer qualitatively from the means of transporting it. "In fact the content of the message," says professor Phillip Johnson, "is independent of the physical makeup of the medium" (Defeating Darwinism by Opening Minds, 1997, p. 71).

The same principle is found in the genetic code. The DNA molecule carries the genetic language, but the language itself is independent of its carrier. The same genetic information can be written in a book, stored in a compact disk or sent over the Internet, and yet the quality or content of the message has not changed by changing the means of conveying it.

As George Williams puts it: "The gene is a package of information, not an object. The pattern of base pairs in a DNA molecule specifies the gene. But the DNA molecule is the medium, it's not the message" (quoted by Johnson, p. 70).

Information from an intelligent source

In addition, this type of high-level information has been found to originate only from an intelligent source.

As Lee Strobel explains: "The data at the core of life is not disorganized, it's not simply orderly like salt crystals, but it's complex and specific information that can accomplish a bewildering task—the building of biological machines that far outstrip human technological capabilities" (p. 244).

For instance, the precision of this genetic language is such that the average mistake that is not caught turns out to be one error per 10 billion letters. If a mistake occurs in one of the most significant parts of the code, which is in the genes, it can cause a disease such as sickle-cell anemia. Yet even the best and most intelligent typist in the world couldn't come close to making only one mistake per 10 billion letters—far from it.

So to believe that the genetic code gradually evolved in Darwinian style would break all the known rules of how matter, energy and the laws of nature work. In fact, there has not been found in nature any example of one information system inside the cell gradually evolving into another functional information program.

Michael Behe, a biochemist and professor at Pennsylvania's Lehigh University, explains that genetic information is primarily an instruction manual and gives some examples.

He writes: "Consider a step-by-step list of [genetic] instructions. A mutation is a change in one of the lines of instructions. So instead of saying, "Take a 1/4-inch nut," a mutation might say, "Take a 3/8-inch nut." Or instead of "Place the round peg in the round hole," we might get "Place the round peg in the square hole" . . . What a mutation cannot do is change all the instructions in one step—say, [providing instructions] to build a fax machine instead of a radio" (Darwin's Black Box, 1996, p. 41).

We therefore have in the genetic code an immensely complex instruction manual that has been majestically designed by a more intelligent source than human beings.

Even one of the discoverers of the genetic code, the agnostic and recently deceased Francis Crick, after decades of work on deciphering it, admitted that "an honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have had to have been satisfied to get it going" (Life Itself, 1981, p. 88, emphasis added).

Evolution fails to provide answers

It is good to remember that, in spite of all the efforts of all the scientific laboratories around the world working over many decades, they have not been able to produce so much as a single human hair. How much more difficult is it to produce an entire body consisting of some 100 trillion cells!

Up to now, Darwinian evolutionists could try to counter their detractors with some possible explanations for the complexity of life. But now they have to face the information dilemma: How can meaningful, precise information be created by accident—by mutation and natural selection? None of these contain the mechanism of intelligence, a requirement for creating complex information such as that found in the genetic code.

Darwinian evolution is still taught in most schools as though it were fact. But it is increasingly being found wanting by a growing number of scientists. "As recently as twenty-five years ago," says former atheist Patrick Glynn, "a reasonable person weighing the purely scientific evidence on the issue would likely have come down on the side of skepticism [regarding a Creator]. That is no longer the case." He adds: "Today the concrete data point strongly in the direction of the God hypothesis. It is the simplest and most obvious solution . . ." (God: The Evidence, 1997, pp. 54-55, 53).

Quality of genetic information the same

Evolution tells us that through chance mutations and natural selection, living things evolve. Yet to evolve means to gradually change certain aspects of some living thing until it becomes another type of creature, and this can only be done by changing the genetic information.

So what do we find about the genetic code? The same basic quality of information exists in a humble bacteria or a plant as in a person. A bacterium has a shorter genetic code, but qualitatively it gives instructions as precisely and exquisitely as that of a human being. We find the same prerequisites of a language—alphabet, grammar and semantics—in simple bacteria and algae as in man.

Each cell with genetic information, from bacteria to man, according to molecular biologist Michael Denton, consists of "artificial languages and their decoding systems, memory banks for information storage and retrieval, elegant control systems regulating the automated assembly of parts and components, error fail-safe and proof-reading devices utilized for quality control, assembly processes involving the principle of prefabrication and modular construction . . . [and a] capacity not equalled in any of our most advanced machines, for it would be capable of replicating its entire structure within a matter of a few hours" (Denton, p. 329).

So how could the genetic information of bacteria gradually evolve into information for another type of being, when only one or a few minor mistakes in the millions of letters in that bacterium's DNA can kill it?

Again, evolutionists are uncharacteristically silent on the subject. They don't even have a working hypothesis about it. Lee Strobel writes: "The six feet of DNA coiled inside every one of our body's one hundred trillion cells contains a four-letter chemical alphabet that spells out precise assembly instructions for all the proteins from which our bodies are made . . . No hypothesis has come close to explaining how information got into biological matter by naturalistic means" (Strobel, p. 282).

Werner Gitt, professor of information systems, puts it succinctly: "The basic flaw of all evolutionary views is the origin of the information in living beings. It has never been shown that a coding system and semantic information could originate by itself [through matter] . . . The information theorems predict that this will never be possible. A purely material origin of life is thus [ruled out]" (Gitt, p. 124).

The clincher

Besides all the evidence we have covered for the intelligent design of DNA information, there is still one amazing fact remaining—the ideal number of genetic letters in the DNA code for storage and translation.

Moreover, the copying mechanism of DNA, to meet maximum effectiveness, requires the number of letters in each word to be an even number. Of all possible mathematical combinations, the ideal number for storage and transcription has been calculated to be four letters.

This is exactly what has been found in the genes of every living thing on earth—a four-letter digital code. As Werner Gitt states: "The coding system used for living beings is optimal from an engineering standpoint. This fact strengthens the argument that it was a case of purposeful design rather that a [lucky] chance" (Gitt, p. 95).

From: www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn58/tinycode.htm

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"Esoteric and spiritual teachers have known for ages that our body is programmable by language, words and thought. This has now been scientifically proven and explained. The human DNA is a biological Internet and superior in many aspects to the artificial one. The latest Russian scientific research directly or indirectly explains phenomena such as clairvoyance, intuition, spontaneous and remote acts of healing, self healing, affirmation techniques, unusual light/auras around people (namely spiritual masters), mind's influence on weather patterns and much more."

The full article can be viewed - in English - on the Kontext website
www.fosar-bludorf.com/index_eng.htm

All information is from the book "Vernetzte Intelligenz" von Grazyna Fosar und Franz Bludorf, ISBN 3930243237, summarized and commented by Baerbel. The book is unfortunately only available in German so far.

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So we see that DNA is not a random event in space-time, but has a "master coder" and some other possible "editors", and we also see that LIGHT (and indeed incantations or "light script", probably best used during massive events with great energy being utilized) alters DNA and can switch off and on certain strands of DNA from the "pile of junk DNA" that your average scientist "doesn't yet understand". What does much of this DNA do or even look like? Who are we really?

First let's take a look at the "invisible us", followed by the "visible us (although not fully activated yet)"

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"The Force" confirmed by science

The Field tells the story of a group of frontier scientists who discovered that the Zero Point Field - an ocean of subatomic vibrations in the space between things - connects everything in the universe, much like the Force in Star Wars.

The Field offers a radically new view of the way our world and our bodies work. The human mind and body are not distinct and separate from their environment, but a packet of pulsating energy constantly interacting with this vast energy sea. The Field creates a picture of an interconnected universe and a new scientific theory which makes sense of 'supernatural `phenomena.

A bit like finding there is such a thing as `The Force in Star Wars'. The Field tells the story of respected frontier scientists all over the globe who have produced extraordinary evidence to show that an energy field -The Zero Point Field - connects everything in the universe, and we ourselves are part of this vast dynamic cobweb of energy exchange.

The Field also reveals a radical new biological paradigm-that on our most fundamental level, the human mind and body are not distinct and separate from their environment, but a packet of pulsating energy constantly interacting with this vast energy sea.

Out of the Mystery and into the Realm of Hard Science Here in so-called `dead' space may lay the key to many of life's processes, from how cells communicate to how organisms actually take shape. The field is responsible for our mind's highest functions - our memory, intuition, creativity. It is the force that finally determines whether we are healthy or ill, the force which must be tapped in order to heal. Original, and well documented with distinguished sources, The Field lifts many areas out of the realm of mystery and into the realm of hard science

The Field creates a picture of an interconnected universe and a new scientific theory which makes sense of supernatural phenomena. It offers a scientific explanation for many of the most profound human mysteries, from alternative medicine and spiritual healing to extra sensory perception and the collective unconscious. It could even answer some of the big questions: what is human consciousness and what happens when we die.

The Field follows the life and work of physicists who seem to be on the verge of bringing about the same type of revolution that occurred exactly a century ago when quantum theory changed the face of physics forever.

The story of their thrilling discovery is a thriller in its own right, involving the CIA, secret Russian testing sites, NASA space programmes and time travel, as a small band of men and women come to grips with the physics of the impossible. Fast-paced and readable like a scientific detective story, The Field is the mind-body book the New Age has been waiting for, the book that will change your entire perception of the way the world works.

Award winning author and indefatigable investigative journalist Lynne McTaggart spent four years researching this area, where science meets the New Age, to create this story of scientific explorers, their groundbreaking work and its controversial implications for mankind. Until now, conservative scientists have done their best rule `god' out of their equations. This book shows why the Zero Point Field makes all things possible: all things connected in space and time.

Readers have written that The Field is a book that has changed their lives - their view of the world and their view of the possible.

What Biology Tells Us

The human being is a survival machine largely powered by chemicals and genetic coding.
The brain is a discreet organ and the home of consciousness, which is also largely driven by chemistry – the communication of cells and
the coding of DNA.
Man is essentially isolated from his world, and his mind is isolated from his body.
Time and space are finite, universal orders.
Nothing travels faster than the speed of light.

What The Field Has Discovered

The communication of the world does not occur in the visible realm of Newton, but in the subatomic world of Werner Heisenberg.
Cells and DNA communicate through frequencies.
The brain perceives and makes its own record of the world in pulsating waves.
A substructure underpins the universe that is essentially a recording medium of everything, providing a means for everything to communicate with everything else.
People are indivisible from their environment.
Living consciousness is not an isolated entity. It increases order in the rest of the world.
The consciousness of human beings has incredible powers, to heal ourselves, to heal the world – in a sense, to make it as we wish it to be.

More information: Living The Field Website
www.quantumbiocommunication.com/consciousness/top-scientists-validating-the-supernatural-universe.html

About the author:

Lynne began work on `The Field' four years ago as a personal quest to see if any new scientific theories could explain how homeopathy and spiritual healing work. This journey took her to many areas around the globe, meeting with top frontier scientists in Russia, Germany, France, England, South American, Central America and the USA.

And what of our physical forms?

Bloodline of the serpent race
Wag your tail... The Tale of SERPENS CAUDA. [tail of the serpent]

The Human Tailbone (Coccyx)

Source: www.livescience.com/animalworld/top10_vestigial_organs-7.html

These fused vertebrae are the only vestiges that are left of the tail that other mammals still use for balance, communication, and in some primates, as a prehensile limb. As our ancestors were learning to walk upright, their tail became useless, and it slowly disappeared. It has been suggested that the coccyx helps to anchor minor muscles and may support pelvic organs. However, there have been many well documented medical cases where the tailbone has been surgically removed with little or no adverse effects. There have been documented cases of infants born with tails, an extended version of the tailbone that is composed of extra vertebrae. There are no adverse health effects of such a tail, unless perhaps the child was born in the Dark Ages. In that case, the child and the mother, now considered witches, would've been killed instantly.

The anatomical part, the CAUDA, is a fundamental reptilian and mammalian condition. The embryonic Human HAS a TAIL! * We ALL my be part REPTILIAN. In the third month, the spinal cord extends through the entire length of the embryo. With increasing age the vertebral column and dura mater lengthen more rapidly than the neural tube and the caudal end of spinal cord shifts to a higher level of the vertebral canal.

CAUDA - "Cauda" is Latin for tail

DEFINITION:
A tail or tail-like appendage; in anatomical nomenclature, a general term for a structure resembling such an appendage.

The Rh-negative Factor:
"Reptilian Traits"(the DRAGON within).
Some Rh-negative blood factor people have several "Unusual Traits" that Rh-positives don't.
Some call them "Reptilian Traits".
An EXTRA-Vertebra (a "Tail Bone")....some are born with a tail(called a "Cauda").
In Sanskrit, Ketuu = The south Lunar Node, also known as Cauda/Draconis, in latin, "dragon's tail" in English.

Rh-Negative Hybrid Reptoids

Source: www.inquiring-mines.com/strange_people_rhnegative_hybrid_reptoids.htm

Rh: What does it mean?

Your Rh status describes whether or not you have a protein on the surface of red blood cells. If you don't have the Rh factor, you're considered Rh-negative; if you have it, you're Rh-positive.

About 85 percent of people are Rh-positive, though it varies by race. For African Americans, about 90-95 percent are Rh-positive, and for Asians, the figure is 98 to 99 percent.

Strange Facts Concerning Rh-Negatives

Rh-Negatives are not only rare, but the Rh-Negative Factor is considered a mutation of unknown origin which took place in Europe approximately 25,000-35,000 years ago. This unusual group of people then spread heavily into the area of what is now Spain, England, Ireland, etc.

Rh-negative women with a Rh-positive partners are at RISK of spontaneous miscarriage and other fetus REJECTION events.

An Rh-negative woman with an Rh-negative partner has even a smaller chance of having a Baby born alive! In animals this is a problem with HYBRIDS!

Rh-negative women and men display Reptilian Traits:

An EXTRA-Vertebra (a "Tail Bone"). Some are born with an actual tail (called a "Cauda"). In Sanskrit, Ketuu = The south Lunar Node, also known as Cauda/Draconis, in latin, "dragon's tail" in English.

Lower than normal Body Temperature.
Lower than normal Blood Pressure.
Higher mental analytical abilities.
Higher Negative-ion shielding (from positive "charged" virus/bacteria) around the body.
High Sensitivity to EM and ELF Fields.
Hyper Vision and other senses.

Most Alien Abductees are Rh-Negatives. Are the gods/aliens monitoring the growth and activities of their hybrid creations?

Distribution of Blood Types of Blood Donors

O Rh-positive: 37 percent
A Rh-positive: 36 percent
B Rh-positive: 9 percent
AB Rh-positive: 3 percent
O Rh-negative: 7 percent
A Rh-negative: 6 percent
B Rh-negative: 1 percent
AB Rh-negative: 1 percent

The Basques

Two facts set the Basque people apart from the other Europeans who have dominated the continent the past 3,000 years:

(1) The Basque language is distinctly different; and

(2) The Basques have the highest recorded level of Rh-negative blood (roughly twice that of most Europeans), as well as substantially lower levels of Type B blood and a higher incidence of Type O blood.

Some probable technological feats of the Basques or their ancestors are:

Stonehenge and similar megalithic structures.
A unique system of measurement based on the number 7, instead of 10, 12, or 60.
Regular visits to North America long before Columbus to fish and to trade for beaver skins.
Recently unearthed British customs records show large Basque imports of beaver pelts from 1380-1433.
The invention of a sophisticated navigational device called an "abacus." (No relation to the common abacus.)

Are the Basques genetically different from other Europeans? Apparently, yes. Not only do they have the highest proportion of rhesus-negative blood in Europe, but they also have one of the highest percentages of type-O blood (55%).

Another salient genetic feature in Basques is the shape and sutures (bone joints) of their cranial bones [The Reptilian skull ridge]. Another skeletal difference is the tendency to having a thicker breast bone.

More About Rh-Negatives

Some suggest the Rh-Negative Hybrids came from the DRACO Caverns in the Carpathian Mountains and are mostly red-headed people with green eyes; but some may have black hair and brown eyes.

There is little doubt that Rh-Negative people are Hybrids; and evidence seems to suggest they are part Reptilian and part Human. If two Rh-Negatives try to have a baby it will usually abort, be born dead, die shortly after birth, or be born a "BLUE Baby", because it is not processing oxygen properly -- thus the term "Blue-Bloods."

Currently, only 5% of the Earth's population are Rh-Negatives; but an amazing 15% of England's population is Rh-Negative. On the other end of the scale, the lowest incidence of Rh-Negative individuals (1%) is in Iceland.

The most distinctive members of the European branch of the human tree are the Basques of France and Spain. They show unusual patterns for several genes, including the highest rate of the Rh-negative blood type. Their language is of unknown origin and cannot be placed within any standard classification.

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Purple Crow notes from previous TAL reports over the years:

The mysterious RH negative "unknown DNA mutation" has an interesting connection to the present day UFO "abduction phenomena"... most UFO ET "contactees" have RH negative blood and undergo (as they claim) medical prodedures and "tests" involving reproduction and hybridization of children (future races being created today). There are deeply spiritual (transformative) and sexual (Dom/sub) experiences that are also described by these people from all over the planet who encounter such occurances. Considering the number of Reptilian entities that are described by UFO abductees (One of the top three most commonly reported varieties of ETs sighted) combined with the number of these people who happen to have RH negative blood (75%)- there appears little coincidence. What? Are you trying to tell me that the mysterious RH negative blood/DNA mutation is an ancient world ET hybrid Human experiement and these same "gods" remain nearby and are "abducting" Humans still to this day and we are yet to hear their complete story or "reasoning" for doing so? Yes, as these are the facts that hold up under any scrutiny that remains true and honourable (IE: No agenda to hide the facts what so ever). Astounding.

An interesting Science fiction series comparison:

Are the "priest-kings" of a certain SF novel not giant insects, but rather Earth's own evolved Reptilian (former dinosaur-like) entities who are light-years ahead of us in technology and reside under the Earth's own surface or in a (now provent to exist) parallel dimension and are abducting Humans for their own means and ends in the present day? (See: super-string theory and modern quantum mechanics for details) *winks in jest at the very notion of a certain SF author actually knowing such a fact before engaging in his creative process* ;)

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SIDE NOTE from TAL: The one thing the world doesn't want is a conspiracy theorist, or so I'm told. ;)

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End of article.

My thoughts as I rub my own scales on my own body and remember my early UFO/ET encounters... They're here! Only the "they" are "us" as well. We ARE DIRECTLY RELATED and very much directly involved. They are us and we are them. Look in the mirror, there's your "reptoid". Go easy on yourselves, whatever time quantum interdimensional space-line you happen to currently "see from". ;)

[rhydra]

Humans go though the process from the single celled organism right though to their ultimate form in the space of nine months, from amoeba, chordate, fish, amphibian, reptile to mammal. Maybe at some time in that process a soul from a long gone ancestor feels a familiar form and moves in.

[templekiti]

Thank you indeed, sir, for all that information.

Perhaps the ultimate Creator/Creative Force/WhateverUWannaCallIt took the easy way out and within all life, incarnate life at least, encoded the possibility of any and every little thing into all DNA. Then, depending on where/when you're born, the light and angle of the prism there activates parts accordingly. Simple, easy (if you're All That) and efficient. Then some creations decide they can go and screw around with it all. And I guess even that possibility is encoded. I never really bought the 90% junk dna theory. Seems such a waste. And from what I've seen the Universe is efficient.

Sending the Love,
http://www.starwolfastrology.com/images/anicateyes.gif

[rhydra]

Well done to Lord Reptoid, great post! :)

[lightgiver]

Well done to Lord Reptoid, great post! :)

a copy and paste post;):D like we all do,but yes very good.

[lordreptoid]

Yes, it went from my encounters, to COHRA being born, to TAL and I talking when he sought me out to "check me out", to Icke interviewing me about the data I had to share, to his books being published, to fans discussing things here and there about "reptoids", to this thread and a reference to a (link) "copy of a copy of a copy" our original works and back again to me sharing much of the same old story I've been sharing in person since 1987 and so forth... life is a circle and what a ride it is! Woo Hoo! :D We all do what we can to share openly without fear, being as honest as we can. I don't know "everything" but my spirit guide disagrees with me on another level of awareness. LOL I'm just happy to be a part of the movie sometimes, in my own quirky uniqueness, the eccentric hybrid chimera activist rebel reptoid (etc). Glad you got something out of this data - I find the journey most delightful at times like this.

[lordreptoid]

Some more Rh- connections to the physical human form for you, the rest you can read off the website itself as I don't want to flood this lovely thread with data that's already been out there for a while now. Enjoy... happy tails, er, trails. :D

The Saurian Race - Anthroposaurus sapiens discovered?

"...In 1898 two brothers said to be versed in desert antiquities found the fossilized remains of a female, who was seven and a half feet tall, in the same stratum as fossils of prehistoric camels and an elephant-like creature with four tusks. Fossils of palm trees, ferns and fish were also found. The curious thing about these human remains was that the female had a tail, having several extra vertebrae at the end of her spine. Our turn-of-the-century archaeologists surmised that Death Valley, where the fossils had been found, had once been on the continental shelf of the Pacific Ocean, and the fossilized lady's bones had been laid down at that time..."

"Some of the "aliens" could actually be subterrestrial descendants of the anthroposaurs."

"The "Nordics," sometimes seemingly the "enemies" of the gray and reptoid types, are often reported as working side-by-side with them in the underground facilities or labs, which recalls the fact that the some nagas were said to look "almost human," as well as the mercurial dispositions of the aristocratic or "Aryan" faeries, the light elves/de Danaan. Additionally, the apocryphal hybrid offspring of Nefilim and humans were described as having an extremely "nordic" or Aryan appearance, as described in The Book of Lamech, and the Slavonic Book of Enoch, and were also said to have a Reptilian patch of skin ("badge of priesthood") on their chests or elsewhere."

http://geocities.com/COHRAinfo/Article23.html

*covers his scales and smiles shyly*

http://www.geocities.com/reptoid_27/Rep7Dino4.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/reptoid_27/Rep3Kesara4.jpg

http://geocities.com/COHRAinfo/Rep2Wolf4-2.jpg
Damn cell phones always spying on me when I'm communing with nature. ;)
A lovely ex-girlfriend (artist) edited this nude photo of me to fully REPresent what others see when I'm astral. :) It's heavily pixelated for "effect". We're the only ones with the originals and it's staying that way. The detail is exquisite, wrapped to my physical form, no loss in natural shading of the sunlight upon my flesh. Thought some of you might get a kick out of this one.

[marpat]

I presented much of TAL's information to David Icke about the Basque race being primarily Rh negative (just like some other races, although less so) before "Children of the matrix" was published after our private meeting where David interviewed me about my encounters and research (1998) which I'd been speaking about publicly since 1987. Some of this data is correct, other parts less so (opinions). What's true is copper plays a role with Rh negative people and "blue bloods" of which there are millions upon the Earth scattered everywhere. Rh negatives are hybrids of a most reptilian variety and sometimes after being born do not even live because they cannot adapt to the Earthly atmosphere easily. The "Royal disease" is "Blue blood" related for this very same reason. Rh negative. UFO/ET contacts tend to happen mostly 95% with Rh negative bloodlines - so if you are Rh negative, keep your eyes on the skies, you could have some action in your future or past. Some Rh negatives are born with scales on their body or even a tail, this is true. Some have scales or a tail but are not Rh negative also, but this is more rare.

By request to my private in-box I can post TAL's data in de-tail here, just remind me of this page with a link if you really want the data in it's raw form sent to Icke long ago about these facts.

Blessings.

PS: Freckles (rather than tanning) are also a Rh negative trait not mentioned here yet from what I've seen. The "firey red head" reputation exists for a reason. Confidence and self-determination are their trade-mark also.


Really? I tend to tan and not get freckles.

[lightgiver]

yes


PS: Freckles (rather than tanning) are also a Rh negative trait not mentioned here yet from what I've seen. The "firey red head" reputation exists for a reason. Confidence and self-determination are their trade-mark also.

O NEG TRAITS. I know a few o neg red heads and brown heads ,and yes very fiery.;):D

[thelyran]

yes


PS: Freckles (rather than tanning) are also a Rh negative trait not mentioned here yet from what I've seen. The "firey red head" reputation exists for a reason. Confidence and self-determination are their trade-mark also.

O NEG TRAITS. I know a few o neg red heads and brown heads ,and yes very fiery.;):D

...bumpity-bump...Good thread...occult girls,redhead,freckles,psychic bitches and demonic.Yeah...

[lady_oblivion]

Well, though i'm not totally convinced on the whole reptile thing, I have to say i have read this thread with much interest. I myself and a rh neg, and underneath the layers of black hair dye i am a red head have freckels and practise the occult LOL. My sons rh pos as i remember having to have an anti d injection. I'm guessing this theory cocme from icke then? But as i said darn interesting thread!

[lightgiver]

Well, though i'm not totally convinced on the whole reptile thing, I have to say i have read this thread with much interest. I myself and a rh neg, and underneath the layers of black hair dye i am a red head have freckels and practise the occult LOL. My sons rh pos as i remember having to have an anti d injection. I'm guessing this theory cocme from icke then? But as i said darn interesting thread!

Hi lady obliv;evil but in a nice way :D

You will find also a lot of truth researchers are rhesus neg;I have heard;ie Tsarion and co;)

you do not have any monkey blood:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NyPeDLQNFA

The evolution theory is very weak to say the least:

check out post 57 click on links http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67712&page=6

http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199a.shtml

Are Reptilians tracking Rh-Negs??? why do you think they want a massive database,you will find also that the troubles in the Basque region are down to this.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20505

Type O Negative Blood Hints at Prince Charles as Descendant of Reptilians

http://www.scoreboard-canada.com/babylon-reptilians.htm

Hope this assist you;)

[ustane]

I have known a person for a long time with Rh negative blood. She is black haired and green-eyed, and also has low blood pressure, mentally overly analytical, and nasty tempered when crossed, often fear-filled, tries to put that fear in me, manipulative, dominant. With such a take-over personality I see how the world came under a spell to the tune of 6 billion by a few

[ustane]

Hi lady obliv;evil but in a nice way :D

You will find also a lot of truth researchers are rhesus neg;I have heard;ie Tsarion and co;)

you do not have any monkey blood:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NyPeDLQNFA

The evolution theory is very weak to say the least:

check out post 57 click on links http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67712&page=6

http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199a.shtml

Are Reptilians tracking Rh-Negs??? why do you think they want a massive database,you will find also that the troubles in the Basque region are down to this.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20505

Type O Negative Blood Hints at Prince Charles as Descendant of Reptilians

http://www.scoreboard-canada.com/babylon-reptilians.htm

Hope this assist you;)


That's interesting. This is an excellent thread and the whole post's interesting. I'm fascinated to know why a lot of truth researchers would be Rhesus neg. It would explain why many are often at war with one another, bickering and at each other's throats. And analytical.

[consciousness84]

B neg here.

I am a brunette, but like two steps away from being a red head. I have low blood pressure but a fast pulse. Part Irish and Native American, I tend to tan easily, no freckles. And a slew of medical problems to boot. sigh.

[torz]

I am O neg, female, 38 yrs old and Blonde,( white in the summer due to the sun and strawberry in the winter without sunlight to bleach it) few freckles and tan easily inquisitive, analytical, bossy, not always able to show affection or love to those around me.. Like to "get on with things" or can completely absorb myself in something 150%... I either do it, or I don't... I can be incredibly lazy but have 6 kids to look after and so am always busy, so not really lazy but given the opportunity just recently I will be)... Life has been absorbed by "all this" since Sept 2008 and am driven to research and learn EVERYTHING...


I will generally do anything for anyone, or used to until I realised at the ripe old age of 37 that others never seem to do anything for me in return and as such have started looking after no.1...
2 of my 3 birthed children are O neg ( the other 3 are step kids) and a good job we have modern medicine sometimes otherwise I would have aborted them before 15 weeks......

So where do I fit into the stereo typical image????

I have never, AFAIK been abducted but have been in some seriously scary, domineering situations with other people in my interesting and varied teenage/early 20's years....

I don;t feel bad and I am a good person and generally happy but getting impatient now with all that I have learned... am waiting like many, many others for "it" to happen.... However, I am calm, as we can never truely die, I just don't want my kids left behind without me when the sheeeeite hits the fan..... that is before it all comes up rosey after TS has HTF...
Oh, BTW, nice to meet you all, am on many forums but occasionally post on here... thsi O neg thing is bugging me....
Torz

[romas]

What is hidden in the reptilian brain? Well, maybe telepathy, the seat of astral travel, telekinesis, ancient memories?



I think that's pineal gland you're talking about, our third eye etc.

[pipsicle]

The Reptilians are tracking those with Rh-Negative Factor Blood. Going back into time....the Rh-Neg Hybrids came from the DRACO Caverns in the Carpathian Mountains. They were mostly RED Haired, with Green Eyes and Black haired, with Brown Eyes. They tried to infiltrate themselves into the Blond/Brown Haired, with Blue Eyes, Civilization. They wanted to Mate with those who were not Rh-Negatives. Most Rh-Negs have a Lower Body temperature and Blood pressure than Rh-Positives. Many Rh-Negs are born with a CAUDA(tail) or an Extra Vertebra (Tail Bone). Rh-Negs are Hybrids. They are Part Reptilian/part human. If two Rh-Negs try to have a baby it will usually die or be born a "BLUE Baby", because it is Not processing oxygen properly. Thus "Blue-Bloods", if they survive. 5% of the Earth's population are currently Rh-Negatives. But, they are 15% of the population of the England and the USA.

http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199a.shtml

And this is wear the notion of blue-blooded royalty comes from?

[8 nephila 8]

I suppose I'll help out with what ever study thing your doing.

I'm from the group "A Rh-negative"

I'm female

I'm a mother of one daughter NO birth complications (my doctor kept telling me how my husband and I hit the biological jackpot with our blood types him being "ab Rh - negitive." We conceived young both weren't concerned about finding a match to our blood in that way. Perhaps we sensed it somehow?)

I'm a Euromut breed in Canada, my family has French, Scottish, welsh, Irish, Cree and Austrian.

My aunt held our long genology with great pride, but the strange thing is she would never let people see it, she told us to research it ourselves. I was heavy into dinosaurs at the time (7 years old) when I heard her and my dad talk about it and she looked at me and said that I might find it particularly interesting.

We have a long history of blood diseases on my dads side ranging from mild anemia to Hemochromatosis. One of my blood relatives died two years ago of a rare disease that causes your blood to thicken and congeal in 0 degrees temps (common in Canada) putting the victim into a living coma then death as the heart slows down.

My skin doesn't tan, it burns and peals leaving a speckled reddish purple tint and not a pretty golden one.

I have light freckles.

My hair changes with the season, It's brown but takes on my reddish tones in summer sun. Also It was redder when I was a child.

My eyes are what my mother calls witch hazel. They change with what I wear or colors around me. They usually are a gray blue/green but greenish hazel with gold also pops out every now and then.

[mind1universe]

I suppose I'll help out with what ever study thing your doing.

I'm from the group "A Rh-negative"

I'm female

I'm a mother of one daughter NO birth complications (my doctor kept telling me how my husband and I hit the biological jackpot with our blood types him being "ab Rh - negitive." We conceived young both weren't concerned about finding a match to our blood in that way. Perhaps we sensed it somehow?)

I'm a Euromut breed in Canada, my family has French, Scottish, welsh, Irish, Cree and Austrian.

Most people in Canada are European decent, nothing too extraordinary.

My aunt held our long genology with great pride, but the strange thing is she would never let people see it, she told us to research it ourselves. I was heavy into dinosaurs at the time (7 years old) when I heard her and my dad talk about it and she looked at me and said that I might find it particularly interesting. That does not mean she thinks your decendant from dinosaurs. Most typical people do not know anything of where the RH - comes from. It also does not mean anything to dinosaurs.



My skin doesn't tan, it burns and peals leaving a speckled reddish purple tint and not a pretty golden one

For god sake!!!!.

I have light freckles. .


For god sake!!!!. I know reptilians are real,but tanning has very little to do with been a cold blooded reptile.



My hair changes with the season, It's brown but takes on my reddish tones in summer sun. Also It was redder when I was a child.

So does everyone else, it lightens because of the sun.

Doesn't mean your a full whackjob alien.

My eyes are what my mother calls witch hazel. They change with what I wear or colors around me. They usually are a gray blue/green but greenish hazel with gold also pops out every now and then. [/COLOR]

Eyes don't change colour.

They only appear to because different clothes bring out the exact colour you have in your eye. The iris has melanlin pigments to give your eye the colour it has. This is like been born with black hair. Your hair doesn't change colour when you put on a jumper for fuck sake.

[kassondra8]

Eyes don't change colour.

They only appear to because different clothes bring out the exact colour you have in your eye. The iris has melanlin pigments to give your eye the colour it has. This is like been born with black hair. Your hair doesn't change colour when you put on a jumper for fuck sake.

Really? Are you sure about that? If we are all possibility, why is a change in eye color so impossible? ;)

As a matter of fact, I have seen someone's eyes change colors with their mood. They went from a very dark blue, to a light bright blue. Sometimes, one would be light and the other dark, almost black.

NOTHING is impossible. Only when you BELIEVE it is.

[8 nephila 8]

My dear if you read any of my other posts in this forum I think you'll find in quite a few of them I clearly state I don't think I'm a reptilian. At least no more than any other human is. We all have qualities in us that date back from a time when we were more wild. Singling out my post like that is kinda silly and uncalled for. I was merely offering my physical characteristics.

I will certainly have to disagree with you about my eye colour(s). My eyes do change colour rather drastically with what I wear. I know what your talking about when you say wearing a certain colour around the eye can bring out other shades and make them brighter but generally it's of the same shade. This isn't what mine do.

Here's a quick example I just took with my digi camera of what I mean compared to the make-up tricks your talking about that can make the eye brighter :

Holding up some orange soda looking golden (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Blackwidowsart/Kinsaki/Neph8.jpg)

Holding up nothing in a blue hoodie (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Blackwidowsart/Kinsaki/Neph7.jpg)

[mind1universe]

Really? Are you sure about that? If we are all possibility, why is a change in eye color so impossible? ;)

As a matter of fact, I have seen someone's eyes change colors with their mood. They went from a very dark blue, to a light bright blue. Sometimes, one would be light and the other dark, almost black.

NOTHING is impossible. Only when you BELIEVE it is.


Does mood change your hair too. Since the Iris is made up of melanin pigmentation just like hair and skin.


I mean I'm not saying it's impossible to change eye colour. But I do know one thing. Eye changing colour because of moods or change of clothes is absaloute nonsense.

[morphal]

8 nephila 8 described some of her traits that she considers part of her being rh negative or of interest, you picked her post apart and jumped all over her, not making sense, and making yourself look like an ass.

Your points are invalid, and now you're fixated on negating someone's claims of eyes shifting color. You're simply ignorant and becoming rigid in your offensive attack.

Babies eyes change color, but maybe you've never been around a baby so your ignorance can be excused.

Eyes are very different from hair, but I guess you hadn't realized that either, lol!!!

[mind1universe]

8 nephila 8 described some of her traits that she considers part of her being rh negative or of interest, you picked her post apart and jumped all over her, not making sense, and making yourself look like an ass.

Your points are invalid, and now you're fixated on negating someone's claims of eyes shifting color. You're simply ignorant and becoming rigid in your offensive attack.

Babies eyes change color, but maybe you've never been around a baby so your ignorance can be excused.

Eyes are very different from hair, but I guess you hadn't realized that either, lol!!!

Nope.


All babies in the west are born with blue eyes. The melanin pigmentation takes the colour in the eye in the first few weeks after been born. So it's DNA and your genetics. After this, your eyes do not change colour. I never said eyes and hair are the same, don't be daft and idiotic.

But melanin in the hair and eyes are what gives you the colour it has. The colour of your eyes is related only one thing, how much melanin you have in it.

Your body grows up till about 22. Doesn't mean you grow another leg! The same applies with your eyes once the eye colour is whatever colour that is it. It's your eye colour. Your eyes don't change colour whether you like it or not.


As for your idiotic attack stating of how people think of me. I am gone way past what people think of me. It's a waste of energy and I certainly don't waste time in trying to look fake or popular as a poster. My job is about been real with myself. None of my points were invalid. You just chosed ignorant belief over reality.

[morphal]

lol - ok - I'm in the west and mine wasn't born with blue eyes, although we are European descent. Another fallacy.

You are the one who made bizarre points that aren't relevent or valid - most Canadians are of European descent? Really? Hmmm... maybe a hundred years ago but certainly not now!

Anyway, yes, it's true babies are born with one eye color and it develops gradually into another - not over several weeks, but often during the first year of life. My point there is that eyes do shift over slow motion in the first years of life, and it's not unthinkable that the human body has this ability! But... whateva!

[mind1universe]

lol - ok - I'm in the west and mine wasn't born with blue eyes, although we are European descent. Another fallacy.

You are the one who made bizarre points that aren't relevent or valid - most Canadians are of European descent? Really? Hmmm... maybe a hundred years ago but certainly not now!

Anyway, yes, it's true babies are born with one eye color and it develops gradually into another - not over several weeks, but often during the first year of life. My point there is that eyes do shift over slow motion in the first years of life, and it's not unthinkable that the human body has this ability! But... whateva!

No it's because melalin is gradully builds up in the Iris in the first year of life. But once this stop your eye doesn't change colour. This is a genetic thing. Not because you put on a blue jumper and makes your eyes turn sky blue!

The woman said she was Canadian with European decent. What has that got to do with anything been reptilian or RH -. All white people from Canada and America come from Europe it's not a secret.

[morphal]

mind1universe- nice av btw - never noticed it before so I don't know if it's new or not --

gotta thank you for this little discussion, read your last post and had a smoke and thought a little and realized for the first time that my eyes change color with heavy emotions! lol!

I don't make a practice of studying the color of my eyes in the mirror, but I'd noticed in the past whenever I'd been really upset and crying that they'd have become a very light and bright green. I'd written it off to the bloodshot red highlighting and contrasting with the green. But - when my eyes have been bloodshot red for other reasons, they were never, ever the light and bright color that they were when I was very upset.

Not that eyes changing color has any significant meaning, just strange to notice that now after having lived in my body for so long ;)

[morphal]

A thought on shifting eye colors - based on my experience, it's a manipulative effect, completely unconscious, that takes place with strong emotion. There's a way of describing this that is eluding me, kind of a natural defense to draw someone in to better obtain help.

Here's what I mean - I had a BF 5 years ago who was the only one who ever noticed my lighter eye color, just once - I've seen it many times, but usually if I was that upset, I was alone, or not looking anyone in the eyes. Anyway.... We used to smoke weed all the time and my eye color was always the same even while bloodshot, medium, leafy green. But one afternoon, I was very upset about something and when he came by, he was struck by their light, bright color.

I figure, if a person is really upset and their eyes unconsciously change to a bright, striking color, it's somewhat magnetic and mesmerizing, ie. a way of drawing in help, sympathy, support - attraction. A manipulation, to be sure, by the way of a subtle change in physical appearance.

Ie, a damsel in distress, staring at you with these bright, piercing eyes... you're more inclined to do something to help. Still, the exact way of describing this is eluding me for now.

I assume that when someone's eyes change color when angry, that would be another type of manipulation intended to subtly intimidate and show power and cause fear. This all seems very reptilian and so subtle that if I hadn't come across this thread I'd never have put this together or noticed it.

I'd be interested to hear what nephila 8 correlates with her emotions and shifting eye colors? I'm sure that some who experience it do not experience it as a type of manipulative weapon of sorts.

[8 nephila 8]

If you look at the parts of Europe I said my family is from Scotland, Ireland France Wales ect and look at the RH - blood percentage in general, I was adding to the fact that that YES a large percentage of RH - in the gene pool of Europe is from those areas. And that it's reflected in other parts of the world where descendants mixed with others from Europe and North Americas where that blood type isn't found such as my Austrian and Cree heritage.

That's was what I was showing. Base info. It's important to studies no matter how base it is. Even if it's as simple as Europeans move to Canada...still Europeans.

@ Morphal: I've never noticed really if they do with emotion or not, I've ever looked in the mirror when I'm angry or feeling passionate ect. to compare them. Others around me notice it first. I get asked if I wear contacts when people are first getting to know me "But weren't they just blue yesterday." is a common thing I hear.

[marpat]

yes


PS: Freckles (rather than tanning) are also a Rh negative trait not mentioned here yet from what I've seen. The "firey red head" reputation exists for a reason. Confidence and self-determination are their trade-mark also.

O NEG TRAITS. I know a few o neg red heads and brown heads ,and yes very fiery.;):D

Well Im brown haired with hazel eyes and I get a good tan when its hot. I am B-

My wife is strawberry blond with blue/ green eyes and is Rh+ but she does freckle so the theory of freckling being a Rh- thing is false

[antinwo]

I think RH negs are or could be reptilian hybrids,through interbreeding over the centuries BCE;) if you believe in reptilians.

check out PG 39 the biggest secret,that accounts for hyper sensitivity to noise feelings etc,because we all just did not just pop up from no where,:D:D.

http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110399a.shtml

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005

and this link above reckons d icke is being used by the bloodlines check it out.

and,

Joshua claims from the Biblical quotes that, Rh-negative blood originated from the Watcher angels who interbred with human women during the pre-flood era, eventually producing giants known as nephilims. The watcher angels were quoted as such in the book of Enoch and as "sons of God" in Genesis 6,4. The allele pattern of this genetic survival has led to speculations of Rh-negative genes passed on to Enoch, Noah and the post-flood humanity. The blood of Jesus is sourced as Rh-negative (AB) from the shroud evidence.

http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200816/1216205419.html

http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/rhneg.htm




Well prince charles is 0 Neg if that makes you feel any better:D

[marpat]

Well prince charles is 0 Neg if that makes you feel any better:D

Well that looks like we are descended from the watchers then. Not all of them are baddies though so dont worry ;)

[mind1universe]

A thought on shifting eye colors - based on my experience, it's a manipulative effect, completely unconscious, that takes place with strong emotion. There's a way of describing this that is eluding me, kind of a natural defense to draw someone in to better obtain help.

Here's what I mean - I had a BF 5 years ago who was the only one who ever noticed my lighter eye color, just once - I've seen it many times, but usually if I was that upset, I was alone, or not looking anyone in the eyes. Anyway.... We used to smoke weed all the time and my eye color was always the same even while bloodshot, medium, leafy green. But one afternoon, I was very upset about something and when he came by, he was struck by their light, bright color.

I figure, if a person is really upset and their eyes unconsciously change to a bright, striking color, it's somewhat magnetic and mesmerizing, ie. a way of drawing in help, sympathy, support - attraction. A manipulation, to be sure, by the way of a subtle change in physical appearance.

Ie, a damsel in distress, staring at you with these bright, piercing eyes... you're more inclined to do something to help. Still, the exact way of describing this is eluding me for now.

I assume that when someone's eyes change color when angry, that would be another type of manipulation intended to subtly intimidate and show power and cause fear. This all seems very reptilian and so subtle that if I hadn't come across this thread I'd never have put this together or noticed it.

I'd be interested to hear what nephila 8 correlates with her emotions and shifting eye colors? I'm sure that some who experience it do not experience it as a type of manipulative weapon of sorts.



That is the bloodflow to your eyes, which make your eyes redder or appearing lighter at the iris, since your eyes tend to get bloodshot.

For fuck sake. Your eyes don't change colour because of your emotions or changing your jumper. This is just stupid nonsense. I mean seriously would you give yourself good rattle or something.


Melenin is WHAT GIVES YOU THE COLOUR IN YOUR EYE. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EMOTIONS. If that is the case, your skin should turn lighter and your hair should turn different colour too. My eye changes to light blue from a dark blue because I might be facing a window or something. This is what your seeing the lighting in the room reflecting off your eyes. It also could be that you have an overactive imagination.


Do yourself a favour and re-read your post. Do your research and then come back here and take a good laugh at your crap. It's crapology. If you can find the genetic code to change your eye colour. The eye colour that your parents gave you and turn it into a different colour because you changed your jumper. Tell me how you do it. I'm sure if it were real you would be a millionaire at this rate.

God this fucking shit just annoys me. I thought I left forums where I didn't have to read this moronic horseshite. Sadly I see it. I do want to cry at this rate. Seriously.

[mind1universe]

Well Im brown haired with hazel eyes and I get a good tan when its hot. I am B-

My wife is strawberry blond with blue/ green eyes and is Rh+ but she does freckle so the theory of freckling being a Rh- thing is false

OMG.

Bangs head off the wall.


Just because your wife is freckly doesn't mean that RH -can't be freckly. This is up there with one of the most hideous things I've ever read.

"CRYING NOW"


Do yourself a favour, instread of looking stupid, study genetics. I'm not a geneticists, or qualified but I at least don't have to look embarrassing on a forum saying stuff like that dear lord. Do any of you actually think before you post on things you actually have zero knowledge in. Like if you don't know what your talking about, it's best not to say anything until you look like you have some teeny bit of knowledge in it. It's incredibly frustrating to see people doing this. 2009 like........


Freckles can be on an RH - and a RH +. Freckles has NOTHING to do with blood types.

You can be an RH + and still have reptilian genetics. Infact everyone single human being has reptilian genetics. Stop with the fucking block like thinking. Rh- is a recessive gene meaning not dominant. You need two RH - genes to be a RH - blood type. For example one can rh + with one -. But because RH + is the dominant. This will always stand. So I will give you an idea of what this means.

In america 13% percent (aprox) are RH -. at least 40 t0 50% have one Rh positive with one rh - recessive gene meaning they are still RH + as this is dominant over the recessive. But this still means the RH positive person carries the RH- blood within him/her. The other are fully positive carrying no negative blood whatsoever.

My father can be Rh - and my mother can be Rh +. I then turn out to be Rh +. But it doesn't mean I don't have RH - genes. There is a thing called dormant genes. I actually am RH + but I have RH - in my family therefore it's dormant within me. If I marry an RH - woman the chances of having mostly RH - children is highly likely.

It's like anything in genetics, there are dominant and recessive genes. It's the same applies with blue eyes. I can have two blue eyed parents, and I could end up brown eyes, since brown eyes is dominant and brown eyes genes are passed through from my parents, but they still have blue eyes. Blue eyes are recessive. But my children can have blue eyes like my parents. But just because my parents have blue eyes, doesn't mean they don't have dormant genes for different eye colours within them. Genetics is random workings.


So the conclusion is, stop thinking just because your blood is RH - that RH + qualities can't exist. Why are you base everything on your wife to describe the what an RH + person should be. I can't believe you said that statement.


I want to pull my hair out.

[suicidal_martyr]

What's with the whole eye color shifting things?!? It can't be done? Well, although I can't prove it unless you want to take a trip to me and see for yourself, my eyes DO change color. But I have no control over it. They are normally blue, randomly they will appear gray and it is obvious when I see it, not a hallucination. When I cry or my eyes are burning or watery, they become 10 times more blue than before but the shape or nothing like that changes, though. I think I do have some sort of pigment problem, from stress I don't know what causes it. I am young and already have fricken transparent like beard hairs, they appear white until you look close..

OMFG THAT MUST MEAN I AM A REPTILIAN I BETTER MAKE A POST ABOUT IT AND TELL EVERYONE WHO I REALLY AM. Oh, wait already did that. Great thread look for it, I PROVE that I am a reptilian, I can even give you my addy and get on my web cam and shape shift in front of you if you don't believe me.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87635

[8 nephila 8]

What's with the whole eye color shifting things?!? It can't be done? Well, although I can't prove it unless you want to take a trip to me and see for yourself, my eyes DO change color. But I have no control over it. They are normally blue, randomly they will appear gray and it is obvious when I see it, not a hallucination. When I cry or my eyes are burning or watery, they become 10 times more blue than before but the shape or nothing like that changes, though. I think I do have some sort of pigment problem, from stress I don't know what causes it. I am young and already have fricken transparent like beard hairs, they appear white until you look close..

OMFG THAT MUST MEAN I AM A REPTILIAN I BETTER MAKE A POST ABOUT IT AND TELL EVERYONE WHO I REALLY AM. Oh, wait already did that. Great thread look for it, I PROVE that I am a reptilian, I can even give you my addy and get on my web cam and shape shift in front of you if you don't believe me.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87635

I need more evidence. XD

[justin_pushka]

Jesus, are you serious he's well scarey, when I started trying to tell him about chemtrails he told me to shut up or get the fuck out of his house! I was hoping you could tell me.

Hahahaha thats funny! Your dad sounds like my mum! Practicly threw ickes books back at me. I think weve found a love match with our parents. :D

[mind1universe]

So Lightgiver, are you saying that RH negative people are more reptilian than RH positive people, if so, how does this manifest itself?

If your RH - it means your genetics show that you have more reptilian heritage. You have more direct links to the fallen bloodlines. But this is a very twisted complicated matter since humanity is part evolved/part hybridized/part interbred with fallen races. This concution has led to the diverse mixture of many races within one species. Because we don't know our heritage and much of the DNA within us is inactive. We really don't know who we are in any way, but only what TPTB tells us.


Even if you find out that your RH- it's still nowhere to getting close to know your ancestry.

You cannot really determine how reptilian they are by just their bloodline alone. The 4 blood types are again mis info. They are far more and complex bloodtypes. But in mainstream we are only aware of the 3/4 bloodtypes.

[particlezen]

If two Rh-Negs try to have a baby it will usually die or be born a "BLUE Baby", because it is Not processing oxygen properly.
http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199a.shtml

Absolute and total rubbish!

[theodoric]

If your RH - it means your genetics show that you have more reptilian heritage. You have more direct links to the fallen bloodlines. But this is a very twisted complicated matter since humanity is part evolved/part hybridized/part interbred with fallen races. This concution has led to the diverse mixture of many races within one species. Because we don't know our heritage and much of the DNA within us is inactive. We really don't know who we are in any way, but only what TPTB tells us.


Even if you find out that your RH- it's still nowhere to getting close to know your ancestry.

You cannot really determine how reptilian they are by just their bloodline alone. The 4 blood types are again mis info. They are far more and complex bloodtypes. But in mainstream we are only aware of the 3/4 bloodtypes.

Oh my god , its the eugenics thread .:eek:

[lightgiver]

Absolute and total rubbish!

It was actually quoted from link,rubbish it may be,and so this maybe also,

They have therefore capitalised on every Druidic and Magical date to try to get as much use out of the effect of the lunar cycle on female menstrual blood. See Star Fire They call this aspect of the menstrual blood Starfire, and indeed, one of the people in the UK Arizona Wilder 'fingers' as a Shape Shifter called lawrence Gardiner has written an article about 'Starfire and menstrual blood' in Nexus magazine. he is also behind the 'Order of the Dragon' an attempt to assemble and register the pure bloodstock of the UK in London.

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/aryanreptilian.html http://usnisa.org/babylon.html

Or maybe not,only time will tell.

[ozpixie]

My husband was blonde (now greying) and has hazel + blue flecked eyes. However there ARE times when the green or blue is really prominent and there are other times when his eye colour totally dims to an overall dullness. His ancestry is English/Nordic. Blood group O+

[daisy100]

I am quite new to this forum, I recently posted a thread about 2 strange men I saw on a train.
I have O - blood I was born with red hair which went blond within a year and stayed blond. I have brown eyes, I burn very easly in the sun, I often feel cold.

[marpat]

If your RH - it means your genetics show that you have more reptilian heritage. You have more direct links to the fallen bloodlines. But this is a very twisted complicated matter since humanity is part evolved/part hybridized/part interbred with fallen races. This concution has led to the diverse mixture of many races within one species. Because we don't know our heritage and much of the DNA within us is inactive. We really don't know who we are in any way, but only what TPTB tells us.


Even if you find out that your RH- it's still nowhere to getting close to know your ancestry.

You cannot really determine how reptilian they are by just their bloodline alone. The 4 blood types are again mis info. They are far more and complex bloodtypes. But in mainstream we are only aware of the 3/4 bloodtypes.

Can you back this up? it is actually acknowlegded by normal science that there are more blood type but just four main ones. Hardly mis-info Even wiki states this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type

[drakul]

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightgiver View Post
If two Rh-Negs try to have a baby it will usually die or be born a "BLUE Baby", because it is Not processing oxygen properly.
http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199a.shtml

Absolute and total rubbish!

Yes clearly they make this stuff up as they go along. Just the above sentence should tell anyone who is RH- and knows ANYTHING about it or who bothers to check on any medical site that RH-bred to RH-is the ideal match and safest for procreation. My parents were both RH- and my mother had 4 healthy babies without any problems.

It is RH+ man to RH- woman resulting in an RH+ foetus that can cause the woman to develop antibodies in her blood that can kill the foetus.

I really don't understand why some people on this board who are aware that this statement - "If two Rh-Negs try to have a baby it will usually die or be born a "BLUE Baby because it is Not processing oxygen properly" - is a complete and total LIE are so persistent in repeating it? Why? Are RH negs being set up as `reptilians'?

If you care anything at all about truth, why would you keep repeating a lie? :confused:

http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/rhfactor.html

[marpat]

Yes clearly they make this stuff up as they go along. Just the above sentence should tell anyone who is RH- and knows ANYTHING about it or who bothers to check on any medical site that RH-bred to RH-is the ideal match and safest for procreation. My parents were both RH- and my mother had 4 healthy babies without any problems.

It is RH+ man to RH- woman resulting in an RH+ foetus that can cause the woman to develop antibodies in her blood that can kill the foetus.

I really don't understand why some people on this board who are aware that this statement - "If two Rh-Negs try to have a baby it will usually die or be born a "BLUE Baby", because it is Not processing oxygen properly" - is a complete and total LIE are so persistent in repeating it? Why? Are RH negs being set up as `reptilians'?

If you care anything at all about truth, why would you keep repeating a lie? :confused:

Because some people just want to believe their verion of 'truth', one which includes reptilian aliesn who interbreed with humans, etc. Their lives would be empty and boring if it wasnt for such exciting possibilities being a part of it.

You only have to look at the link provided as support for their conclusion, reptilianagenda.com. Says it all really.

From this day forth I am going to change the label of conspiracy theorist to conspiracy fantasist. The term seems far more appropriate.

[drakul]

Because some people just want to believe their verion of 'truth', one which includes reptilian aliesn who interbreed with humans, etc. Their lives would be empty and boring if it wasnt for such exciting possibilities being a part of it.

You only have to look at the link provided as support for their conclusion, reptilianagenda.com. Says it all really.

From this day forth I am going to change the label of conspiracy theorist to conspiracy fantasist. The term seems far more appropriate.

:D One of the links `Lightgiver' provided reads like a bad scifi novel.

The way this lie is constantly being pushed concerns me because I don't like the idea that RH negs are being set up to take the fall as `reptoid hybrids'. And some people obviously believe it with absolutely no proof at all! Icke was right that some of the so-called `Awakened' have just exchanged one mindbox for another.

[lightgiver]

Yes clearly they make this stuff up as they go along. Just the above sentence should tell anyone who is RH- and knows ANYTHING about it or who bothers to check on any medical site that RH-bred to RH-is the ideal match and safest for procreation. My parents were both RH- and my mother had 4 healthy babies without any problems.

It is RH+ man to RH- woman resulting in an RH+ foetus that can cause the woman to develop antibodies in her blood that can kill the foetus.

I really don't understand why some people on this board who are aware that this statement - "If two Rh-Negs try to have a baby it will usually die or be born a "BLUE Baby because it is Not processing oxygen properly" - is a complete and total LIE are so persistent in repeating it? Why? Are RH negs being set up as `reptilians'?

If you care anything at all about truth, why would you keep repeating a lie? :confused:

http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/rhfactor.html


Hey matey I come across the info,and the reason I link it is so people can debate and come to their own conclusions,like you are doing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NyPeDLQNFA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr428fhp64I

No need for personnel insults peeps.


It is know the most common blood type is O positive (O+) and the rarest is AB negative (AB-), but just the 6.6% of the world population has O negative (O-) and 0.6% of the population has AB negative (AB-). However, AB- is compatible with O-, A-, and AB- while O- is only compatible with the same blood type.

Additionally, only 7% of the people in the world have the RH negative (-) factor. If you are a woman with RH-, you should become an active member of this group.

There are some shocking characteristics of the people with this genetic code. Nearly 85% of all human beings have RH positive blood. Their red blood cells contain a substance called the RHesus blood factor. This means the positive blood contains a protein that can be traced to the Rhesus monkey. It is acknowledged that blood factors are transmitted with more exactitude than any other human or animal characteristic. While it is known that RH negative blood - (type 'O') is the purest blood known to mankind, it is not known from where the negative factor originates, RH negative factor that makes the blood 'pure'. Pure enough to be the universal blood of the world.

Everyone on the face of the earth can receive RH negative type 'O' blood, but these very same 'O' negative people cannot receive blood from any other type except their own type. An RH negative pregnant mother's body will reject her positive blooded baby in the womb. Her body fights the RHesus factor as a foreign element. A positive mother's body does not fight the negative baby she is carrying however.

Science at this very time is attempting to make the recipe for RH negative 'O' blood, but without success. The protein in positive blood can be cloned, but not so of the negative blood - which is quite interesting. If the RH negative factor does not derive from any known earthly link - from where did it originate? Just for think...

One last recommendation, if you are RH negative (RH-), you should strongly consider becoming a blood donor. Whenever an RH negative patient needs blood, it's harder to find compatible blood for him because there are fewer RH negative donors than RH positive donors. RH negative patients can receive only RH negative blood, but RH positive patients can receive either RH positive or RH negative blood.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21303229657&v=feed&story_fbid=144353444657&ref=mf

[mind1universe]

Absolute and total rubbish!

Why.... Explain

Thanks.

[particlezen]

Why.... Explain

Thanks.

It's already been explained, but in case you missed it, two Rh- parents are a perfect match for producing a healthy child with no complications. It's Rh- and Rh+ that don't mix.

[snakesnladders]

...no,my father is the one with celtic blood,he was staunch anti-jew,Zionist to us...then again,dad was anti-everyone and a real bastard,Gaol warden you see.But he believed me with the occultist and actually tracked them down with his contacts.I remember he left Freemasonary back in 1978,he said it
was over money,bullshit.He was scared,and he is one of the old tough guys...
...tribes of Israel to me is a euphenism for bloodline,nothing to do with Israel or religeous belief,I could be wrong and know very little.Most of my family
relations were hidden from me and was not allowed to meet them,we had a very insular family,I was'nt even allowed to have many friends,my mother never approved of any girlfriend I had...and to this day have had no contact with them,even though they are dying wretchedly,disease.Even my own children get the creeps from them.
The french Connection...hahahahahaha,merovigian(can't even spell it)...
damn.

why was he scared? did he say?

[drakul]

It's already been explained, but in case you missed it, two Rh- parents are a perfect match for producing a healthy child with no complications. It's Rh- and Rh+ that don't mix.

Yes. The very fact that they get the most important, basic fact about RH negs WRONG should tell you they are making the whole scenario up as they go along.

[snakesnladders]

Hey matey I come across the info,and the reason I link it is so people can debate and come to their own conclusions,like you are doing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NyPeDLQNFA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr428fhp64I

No need for personnel insults peeps.


It is know the most common blood type is O positive (O+) and the rarest is AB negative (AB-), but just the 6.6% of the world population has O negative (O-) and 0.6% of the population has AB negative (AB-). However, AB- is compatible with O-, A-, and AB- while O- is only compatible with the same blood type.

Additionally, only 7% of the people in the world have the RH negative (-) factor. If you are a woman with RH-, you should become an active member of this group.

There are some shocking characteristics of the people with this genetic code. Nearly 85% of all human beings have RH positive blood. Their red blood cells contain a substance called the RHesus blood factor. This means the positive blood contains a protein that can be traced to the Rhesus monkey. It is acknowledged that blood factors are transmitted with more exactitude than any other human or animal characteristic. While it is known that RH negative blood - (type 'O') is the purest blood known to mankind, it is not known from where the negative factor originates, RH negative factor that makes the blood 'pure'. Pure enough to be the universal blood of the world.

Everyone on the face of the earth can receive RH negative type 'O' blood, but these very same 'O' negative people cannot receive blood from any other type except their own type. An RH negative pregnant mother's body will reject her positive blooded baby in the womb. Her body fights the RHesus factor as a foreign element. A positive mother's body does not fight the negative baby she is carrying however.

Science at this very time is attempting to make the recipe for RH negative 'O' blood, but without success. The protein in positive blood can be cloned, but not so of the negative blood - which is quite interesting. If the RH negative factor does not derive from any known earthly link - from where did it originate? Just for think...

One last recommendation, if you are RH negative (RH-), you should strongly consider becoming a blood donor. Whenever an RH negative patient needs blood, it's harder to find compatible blood for him because there are fewer RH negative donors than RH positive donors. RH negative patients can receive only RH negative blood, but RH positive patients can receive either RH positive or RH negative blood.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21303229657&v=feed&story_fbid=144353444657&ref=mf

well funny isnt it, rhesus monkeys come from EARTH. most humans (85%) blood is 'contaminated' wiht rhesus monkey stuff. clearly, they have a strong 'earth' connection to the wildlife of this planet.

now some HUMAN blood doesnt contain the rhesus monkey stuff? how come? why not? what happened along the way? we're all humans arent we? didnt we all evolve the same way?

apparantly not. wonder why.

does anyone know if all the royals have negative blood? is that why htey cant intermarry, interbreed (keep it in the family etc)?

[lightgiver]

well funny isnt it, rhesus monkeys come from EARTH. most humans (85%) blood is 'contaminated' wiht rhesus monkey stuff. clearly, they have a strong 'earth' connection to the wildlife of this planet.

now some HUMAN blood doesnt contain the rhesus monkey stuff? how come? why not? what happened along the way? we're all humans arent we? didnt we all evolve the same way?

apparantly not. wonder why.

does anyone know if all the royals have negative blood? is that why htey cant intermarry, interbreed (keep it in the family etc)?

For sure Prince Charly boy is O neg,

http://www.scoreboard-canada.com/babylon-reptilians.htm http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080305022709AAkxSDT
http://vigilantdream.blogspot.com/2009/02/origins-of-rhesus-negative.html

Also,

When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything—you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.


You can put 10 tons of proof in front of people, but if they are not ready to accept an idea they will not accept the proof, no amount of evidence will suffice to prove anything. It is the jury who will decide - YOU are the jury! - William Cooper :)

[snakesnladders]

well it wud be really good if someone cud collate this stuff... figure out if ALL the royals have negative blood, as in ALL, or if they did before they started inbreeding with 'commoners' in recent times... did diana have negative blood? becuz if they ALL do, then i think something may be 'up' so to speak...

[skiver]

http://www.reptilianagenda.com/other/o012501a.shtml :p

[spongeblip]

Rh Neg blood type linked with Draco Connection?..

I have always had a funny feeling about etc etc..... :(:(:(:(:(

[lightgiver]

Operation Majority a William Cooper Document:

The aliens claim to have created Homo Sapiens through
hybridization. The papers said that RH Negative blood was proof of
this.

http://pdharris.com/cooper/operation_majority.htm

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/cooper/operation_majority.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_basques02.htm

[snakesnladders]

well i dunno. one of my parents is o negative, and not reptilian, while the other is positive, and DOES have the pupils that go vertical. altho members of that family some are o negative.

[thelyran]

It's already been explained, but in case you missed it, two Rh- parents are a perfect match for producing a healthy child with no complications. It's Rh- and Rh+ that don't mix.


...that is correct.

[thelyran]

why was he scared? did he say?


sorry about this,dropped the subscription long ago.I talked with dad a little about this the other day.I said to him,"you've done your third blue degree,which makes you master craftsman,you know,most Masons,think that's the highest you go,well in fact,there's 33 earthbound degrees,and by the sixth degree,you're learning telepathy...",he just looked at me.I went further"I also know,that's one of the reasons you believed me about the occultism,and you have no idea,of how much I respect and love you for that"
...we have'nt spoken in three years...
But I'll leave the questions,what happened on the third Blue Degree,after they pulled the Skull and Bones sheet over him,and ask"did you feel it's presence",a little later on,he'll know what I mean.He did'nt stay long,and my father is not queer or even close to bi-sexual,not even in thought,so if there's to much male-bonding,he'd check out.I know what he liked about it,the deep-sea fishing trips,with his gaol warden mates,and the hard-ware discounts:D...just taking the piss.But there was corruption,the amount of sea-food and clothing we got back then,something was under-handed,when you're eating lobster all the time,hated the crap.Regards.

[lightgiver]

well i dunno. one of my parents is o negative, and not reptilian, while the other is positive, and DOES have the pupils that go vertical. altho members of that family some are o negative.

Hi S and L,

I dont think having rh neg blood means you will turn into or resemble a reptile,it just means the blood is not of this earth and may have come from another source so to speak ;)

[song_of_susannah]

I'm Rhesus Neg and find the whole Reptilian connection more than a little irritating.

I've given this info before, but it's worth repeating.

The majority of Beings currently on the planet have Reptilian DNA and in fact hail from Alien stock.

Rh Neg may well be the blood of the original True Humans.

This blood, high in copper content was/is resilient to many diseases, therefore it was important that the conquering Anunnaki, who are master slavers, weaken this hardy blood, which they set about doing through Genetic manipulation.

The majority now have the weaker blood, which suits the Anunnaki perfectly, as susceptibility to a wide range of diseases such as cancer, diabetes, hypertension etc. renders the Human shell unfortunately, more vulnerable.

The wide ranging psychic abilities of Humans, have also been incredibly dumbed down, again all to the benefit of the bloodthirsty, domineering Anunnaki slave masters.

Of course because of 'breeding out' they have also suffered the loss of some of their 'strengths' and they are currently trying to amend the situation, hence the obsession with collecting DNA.

[rowan22]

Has anyone mentioned that Rhesus negative blood groups are clustered geographically where the heaviest concentration of Neanderthal remains are found?

[lightgiver]

The majority of Beings currently on the planet have Reptilian DNA and in fact hail from Alien stock.

Rh Neg may well be the blood of the original True Humans.



I have been thinking that myself recently.

But,

O neg is the universal donor and can only receive off another O neg,not any other rhesus negs,so O neg may be the original blood?

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=200690080&blogId=453381974

also you may need to watch this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr428fhp64I

and this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NyPeDLQNFA

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89428

http://nazarenebloodline7777.blogspot.com/2009/03/rh-negative-hybrids.html http://nazarenebloodline7777.blogspot.com/2009/03/neanderthal-dna-cloning-not-mating.html

[song_of_susannah]

I have been thinking that myself recently.

But,


O neg is the universal donor and can only receive off another O neg,not any other rhesus negs,so O neg may be the original blood?

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=200690080&blogId=453381974

also you may need to watch this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr428fhp64Iand this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NyPeDLQNFAhttp://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89428

http://nazarenebloodline7777.blogspot.com/2009/03/rh-negative-hybrids.html http://nazarenebloodline7777.blogspot.com/2009/03/neanderthal-dna-cloning-not-mating.html



I'd disagree with some of the info about the early history concerning the watchers and so forth, but that's neither here nor there.

The O Neg thing is interesting, but I don't think that it necessarily means it's the one and only.

Who really knows? most of it's guess work, but I am sure about the general population having Reptilian DNA, but of course we're looking at one bit of what makes us, not the consciousness.

The Ruling Elite are very interested in bloodlines and DNA though, and are currently categorizing everybody.

[drakul]

Interesting theory about how different blood groups thrive on DIETS unique to their blood type. This researcher also thinks that Type O was the original blood type. Has to be as O Neg is the Universal Donor. Check out your blood type and let us know what you think:

___________

The evolutionary theory of blood groups, which is also used by D'Adamo, stems from work by William C. Boyd, an immunochemist and blood type anthropologist who made a worldwide survey of the distribution of blood groups. In his book Genetics and the Races of Man: An introduction to modern physical anthropology, published in 1950, Boyd describes how by genetic analysis of blood groups, human races are populations that differ according to their alleles. On this basis, Boyd divided the world population into 13 geographically distinct races with slightly different frequency distributions of blood group genes.

D'Adamo groups those thirteen races together by ABO blood group, each type within this group having unique dietary recommendations:

* Blood group O is believed by D'Adamo to be the hunter, the earliest human blood group. The diet recommends that this blood group eat a higher protein diet. D'Adamo bases this on the belief that O blood type was the first blood type, originating 30,000 years ago.

* Blood group A is called the cultivator by D'Adamo, who believes it to be a more recently evolved blood type, dating back from the dawn of agriculture, 20,000 years ago. The diet recommends that individuals of blood group A eat a diet emphasizing vegetables and free of red meat, a more vegetarian food intake.

* Blood group B is, according to D'Adamo, the nomad, associated with a strong immune system and a flexible digestive system. The blood type diet claims that people of blood type B are the only ones who can thrive on dairy products and estimates blood type B arrived 10,000 years ago.

* Blood group AB, according to D'Adamo, the enigma, the most recently evolved type, arriving less than 1000 years ago. In terms of dietary needs, his blood type diet treats this group as an intermediate between blood types A and B.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type_diet

[mrs houdini]

Hi Friends
What a great thread, I thought I would tell you my experiance. My oldest son who is now 35 years old was born with a complicated heart defect and needed corective surgery at the age of 6 months. During the pre op tests his blood group was discovered to be O RH NEG I am group O RH POS,he has brown eyes and black hair I am blonde with blue eyes all my other 3 children are RH POS. Now as he is an adult he has very low blood presure and body tempreture, I asked him about what I had discovered here and he replyed he was born in the year of the Dragon as a man he is a nice guy and in no way sinister but I was allways puzzled by his blood group being differant from his brother and sisters can any one shed some light on this?

Love and peace.
Linda:confused:

[analog]

The Reptilians are tracking those with Rh-Negative Factor Blood. Going back into time....the Rh-Neg Hybrids came from the DRACO Caverns in the Carpathian Mountains. They were mostly RED Haired, with Green Eyes and Black haired, with Brown Eyes. They tried to infiltrate themselves into the Blond/Brown Haired, with Blue Eyes, Civilization. They wanted to Mate with those who were not Rh-Negatives. Most Rh-Negs have a Lower Body temperature and Blood pressure than Rh-Positives. Many Rh-Negs are born with a CAUDA(tail) or an Extra Vertebra (Tail Bone). Rh-Negs are Hybrids. They are Part Reptilian/part human. If two Rh-Negs try to have a baby it will usually die or be born a "BLUE Baby", because it is Not processing oxygen properly. Thus "Blue-Bloods", if they survive. 5% of the Earth's population are currently Rh-Negatives. But, they are 15% of the population of the England and the USA.

http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199a.shtml



Is there anyway you can get your blood tested to see if you are this type?, I have reddish hair and greenish/grey eyes.

[drakul]

Hi Friends
What a great thread, I thought I would tell you my experiance. My oldest son who is now 35 years old was born with a complicated heart defect and needed corective surgery at the age of 6 months. During the pre op tests his blood group was discovered to be O RH NEG I am group O RH POS,he has brown eyes and black hair I am blonde with blue eyes all my other 3 children are RH POS. Now as he is an adult he has very low blood presure and body tempreture, I asked him about what I had discovered here and he replyed he was born in the year of the Dragon as a man he is a nice guy and in no way sinister but I was allways puzzled by his blood group being differant from his brother and sisters can any one shed some light on this?

Love and peace.
Linda:confused:

RH neg is a recessive gene. You carry it and so does your son's father, in order to produce an RH net baby. Statistics - 55% of all RH positives carry RH neg gene.

[mrs houdini]

Thank you Drakul for your swift reply,and for helping me understand

Love and Peace:DLinda

[song_of_susannah]

Has anyone mentioned that Rhesus negative blood groups are clustered geographically where the heaviest concentration of Neanderthal remains are found?



The Neanderthal population were horribly experimented on and wiped out.

As for the blood, the problem is historical evidence has been/is corrupted so much that very little is totally reliable.

There is what I call 'surface' information and then there is the truth.

[lightgiver]

Is there anyway you can get your blood tested to see if you are this type?, I have reddish hair and greenish/grey eyes.

The Doctor :)

[morphal]

There are home blood typing kits, usually around $10, I think US pharmacies have them, not sure about elsewhere, but you can easily order them in.

[song_of_susannah]

Is there anyway you can get your blood tested to see if you are this type?, I have reddish hair and greenish/grey eyes.



I wouldn't take too much notice of the physical characteristics.

I have normal blood pressure, have a lot of body heat, and definitely do not tick off a fair bit of the list.

Your blood group is in your medical files, you can also ask for a blood test.

[mind1universe]

It's already been explained, but in case you missed it, two Rh- parents are a perfect match for producing a healthy child with no complications. It's Rh- and Rh+ that don't mix.

But two RH- parents with (RH - strong bloodlines on boths sides) Will cause a baby to be born blue or with a tail. That was my point.

You can argue or miss the fact, that is totally up to you. And if a mother is RH - and has a RH+ baby, her body will kill the foetus. This never happens anywhere else in nature. Our blood has also been proven to be mixed with alien origin from the science field already. But people are either ignoring it or not willing to accept it. Creation has always played a part of existence, and creation is what makes evolution possible. Evolution only goes according to the decision of creation by it's creator.

The amazing truth to humanity on your world, is that you have blood from many E.T races that have seeded their own DNA on this world. That lies inside our own blood, the body we choosed to incarnate into before birthing into this amazing world we tend to take for granted.


Time is waiting for you and many to rediscover who you really are. No authority or form of power will guide you any longer. Time is now. Are you able to take self authority into making the changes in this reality.


Love and light
Mind1

[drakul]

But two RH- parents with (RH - strong bloodlines on boths sides) Will cause a baby to be born blue or with a tail. That was my point.

Why do you keep pushing that lie? Show me one medical study that proves this.

You can argue or miss the fact, that is totally up to you. And if a mother is RH - and has a RH+ baby, her body will kill the foetus.

Again not true. Typically the first child - if RH pos will not be harmed, it is with the 2nd RH pos foetus AFTER the mother has built anti-bodies to RH pos blood which can be mis-carried/aborted. For example, I am RH-, my first child was RH+, born perfect. Immediately after birth I was given the RHOGAM injection to prevent my body from developing anti-bodies to the next (RH+) foetus.

Our blood has also been proven to be mixed with alien origin from the science field already.

Do us all a favor and show us some `science' links which prove this?

But people are either ignoring it or not willing to accept it. Creation has always played a part of existence, and creation is what makes evolution possible. Evolution only goes according to the decision of creation by it's creator.

uhuh right :confused:

The amazing truth to humanity on your world, is that you have blood from many E.T races that have seeded their own DNA on this world.

Many ET races? Like for instance? Is it too much to ask for Evidence?

That lies inside our own blood, the body we choosed to incarnate into before birthing into this amazing world we tend to take for granted.


The concept of Re-carnation is a TRAP. This is why you have 150 million Dalits/Untouchables in India (`bad deeds in former life = bad blood')

[mind1universe]

why do you keep pushing that lie? Show me one medical study that proves this.



Again not true. Typically the first child - if rh pos will not be harmed, it is with the 2nd rh pos foetus after the mother has built anti-bodies to rh pos blood which can be mis-carried/aborted. For example, i am rh-, my first child was rh+, born perfect. Immediately after birth i was given the rhogam injection to prevent my body from developing anti-bodies to the next (rh+) foetus.



Do us all a favor and show us some `science' links which prove this?



Uhuh right :confused:



Many et races? Like for instance? Is it too much to ask for evidence?



The concept of re-carnation is a trap. This is why you have 150 million dalits/untouchables in india (`bad deeds in former life = bad blood')


lol....


Do yourself a favour and look for the truth you seek, by yourself. Your not a child.

And science will prove a lot of things, Maybe you should get outside into the fresh air and discover the planet you've yet to venture "in all it's form". It might be good for you, rather than waiting for others to show you the way.

By the way there are 500,000 scientist paid to keep this info from you. So as much as science does negative or positive, it seems you should be really be doing your own research.

[morphal]

Has anyone mentioned in this thread that Prince Charles has type 0 negative blood? I came across that bit of info the other day, it mentioned it and had a link to the page that was supposed to be the reference to it, but that page was long gone.

[drakul]

lol....


Do yourself a favour and look for the truth you seek, by yourself. Your not a child.

And science will prove a lot of things, Maybe you should get outside into the fresh air and discover the planet you've yet to venture "in all it's form". It might be good for you, rather than waiting for others to show you the way.

By the way there are 500,000 scientist paid to keep this info from you. So as much as science does negative or positive, it seems you should be really be doing your own research.

Did you even read my post??? I am an RH neg woman from a `strong' RH- family. My parents, both RH-, my brothers and sister all RH-. There were NO `blue babies', no `tails'. Fool.

I am married to an RH+ man. We had an RH+ child, with NO complications. My body did not `kill' the foetus as you claim it would. The woman only develops antibodies AFTER the first child is born, and this is why she is given RHOGAM after the birth of the first child to prevent her body from developing antibodies to the 2nd foetus.

You have no idea what you are talking about. None at all. That is crystal clear.

[mind1universe]

Did you even read my post??? I am an RH neg woman from a `strong' RH- family. My parents, both RH-, my brothers and sister all RH-. There were NO `blue babies', no `tails'. Fool.

I am married to an RH+ man. We had an RH+ child, with NO complications. My body did not `kill' the foetus as you claim it would. The woman only develops antibodies AFTER the first child is born, and this is why she is given RHOGAM after the birth of the first child to prevent her body from developing antibodies to the 2nd foetus.

You have no idea what you are talking about. None at all. That is crystal clear.

And you thrown an insult at me...


Sort yourself out, and take responsbility for reality and stop preaching that your a know it all. I know people who were born with tails. You maybe RH- but it doesn't mean you have as much hybrid bloodlines as others. I know my Aunts family who married a guy with RH- blood and most of their kids were born blue. I know a few people who were born with tails. Bloodlines is more complicated than just 4 bloodtypes.:rolleyes:


Seriously sort your arrogance. If you don't like my post don't read them. No need for the insults.

[drakul]

And you thrown an insult at me...
Sort yourself out, and take responsbility for reality and stop preaching that your a know it all. I know people who were born with tails. You maybe RH- but it doesn't mean you have as much hybrid bloodlines as others. I know my Aunts family who married a guy with RH- blood and most of their kids were born blue. I know a few people who were born with tails. Bloodlines is more complicated than just 4 bloodtypes.

You have several `arrogant' unwarranted posts yourself on this thread. Such as:

Mind1universe: For fuck sake. Your eyes don't change colour because of your emotions or changing your jumper. This is just stupid nonsense. I mean seriously would you give yourself good rattle or something.

Do yourself a favour and re-read your post. Do your research and then come back here and take a good laugh at your crap. It's crapology.

If you can find the genetic code to change your eye colour. The eye colour that your parents gave you and turn it into a different colour because you changed your jumper. Tell me how you do it. I'm sure if it were real you would be a millionaire at this rate.

God this fucking shit just annoys me. I thought I left forums where I didn't have to read this moronic horseshite. Sadly I see it. I do want to cry at this rate. Seriously.

Strange how you're all scientific and everything when it comes to eye color but then it's `I know people who have tails so I don't need no damn evidence' when it comes to your statement that RH-to RH- either kills the foetus or results in `blue babies' who cannot process oxygen properly. It's almost like 2 different people sharing the same ID :confused:

* You don't state whether those people who have tails are RH- or who come from as you put it `strong' RH- bloodlines.

* You're not RH- yourself so you obviously don't come from a `strong' RH- family.

* You're not RH- so you obviously have no first hand experience with breeding to an RH+ or an RH-man. You just fall back on - `I know people with tails' without specifying anything.

* I am RH- from an RH- family, both parents, all siblings RH-, no tails, no blue babies. You are not, yet you have the arrogance to tell me to research on my own, don't use science. :rolleyes: I am speaking from both medical evidence AND longtime personal experience!

Mind1universe: Seriously sort your arrogance. If you don't like my post don't read them. No need for the insults.

Whenever I see this lie repeated that RH- to RH- can't breed, I will contest it.

[eclexia]

Rejection of a (+ blood type) foetus, by a (- blood type) mother is not a certainty. Only a possibility. It's dependant on a crossing/mixing of bloodtypes within the sybiotic union.

Such a possibility may come about through some trauma like amniocentisis allowing a crossing of baby's bloodtype to mothers supply. Early clamping of the cord after birth while the placenta is still attached to the inner womb, will allow baby's blood to flow back into the mother via the placenta.
Since most modern day hospital practice is to have women on their backs and to cut the cord early (thereby depriving babe of a lot of their full quota of 'birth blood entitlement') this signifigantly increases the liklihood of baby's + blood flowing back into mum. The mum's blood then develops antibodies to the 'foriegn blood' and just sits there in wait til a future pregnancy with a baby having + blood type is conceived. THIS is where the risk of spontaneous abortion comes in.

ROHGAM is a blood derivative, totally unnecessary in ANY birth if pregnancy is allowed to unfold naturally. It's essentail to allow a normal physiological 3rd stage of labour. Cords should NOT be cut until after the placenta has been passed naturally. This does away with the risk of blood contamination between (-) mothers and (+) babies.

How long has this ROHGAM crap been injected into all mothers with Rh- blood types? If Rh neg mothers were routinely killing off any and all Rh + babies why is the majority of the planet still made up of Rh + people?? Do the math...

Just had to clear that point up. Women are fed a lot of bullshit and kept in the dark in relation to most things to do with pregnancy and birth. Gets my fuckin goat I can tell you!!!

PS. I am Rh- and have given birth 4 x. three + type babies and one - type.

[drakul]

I'm Rhesus Neg and find the whole Reptilian connection more than a little irritating.

I've given this info before, but it's worth repeating.

The majority of Beings currently on the planet have Reptilian DNA and in fact hail from Alien stock.

Rh Neg may well be the blood of the original True Humans.

This blood, high in copper content was/is resilient to many diseases, therefore it was important that the conquering Anunnaki, who are master slavers, weaken this hardy blood, which they set about doing through Genetic manipulation.

The majority now have the weaker blood, which suits the Anunnaki perfectly, as susceptibility to a wide range of diseases such as cancer, diabetes, hypertension etc. renders the Human shell unfortunately, more vulnerable.

The wide ranging psychic abilities of Humans, have also been incredibly dumbed down, again all to the benefit of the bloodthirsty, domineering Anunnaki slave masters.

Of course because of 'breeding out' they have also suffered the loss of some of their 'strengths' and they are currently trying to amend the situation, hence the obsession with collecting DNA.

This is an interesting post. Makes more sense than some of the other `crapology' being pushed here.

[drakul]

Rejection of a (+ blood type) foetus, by a (- blood type) mother is not a certainty. Only a possibility. It's dependant on a crossing/mixing of bloodtypes within the sybiotic union.

Such a possibility may come about through some trauma like amniocentisis allowing a crossing of baby's bloodtype to mothers supply. Early clamping of the cord after birth while the placenta is still attached to the inner womb, will allow baby's blood to flow back into the mother via the placenta.
Since most modern day hospital practice is to have women on their backs and to cut the cord early (thereby depriving babe of a lot of their full quota of 'birth blood entitlement') this signifigantly increases the liklihood of baby's + blood flowing back into mum. The mum's blood then develops antibodies to the 'foriegn blood' and just sits there in wait til a future pregnancy with a baby having + blood type is conceived. THIS is where the risk of spontaneous abortion comes in.

ROHGAM is a blood derivative, totally unnecessary in ANY birth if pregnancy is allowed to unfold naturally. It's essentail to allow a normal physiological 3rd stage of labour. Cords should NOT be cut until after the placenta has been passed naturally. This does away with the risk of blood contamination between (-) mothers and (+) babies.

How long has this ROHGAM crap been injected into all mothers with Rh- blood types? If Rh neg mothers were routinely killing off any and all Rh + babies why is the majority of the planet still made up of Rh + people?? Do the math...

Just had to clear that point up. Women are fed a lot of bullshit and kept in the dark in relation to most things to do with pregnancy and birth. Gets my fuckin goat I can tell you!!!

PS. I am Rh- and have given birth 4 x. three + type babies and one - type.

Thanks for your input. I am not completely sure what your points are, however the FIRST child is not the problem. So the ability to procreate RH- mother to RH+ is there without the Rhogam which is given AFTER the first child is born. Nor is it an absolute that the RH- mother will develop antibodies to the foetus/baby at all.

Are you American or Brit or European? Americans seem to be much more conscious of bloodtypes since blood tests are required before marriage here.

[eclexia]

Thanks for your input. I am not completely sure what your points are, however the FIRST child is not the problem. So the ability to procreate RH- mother to RH+ is there without the Rhogam which is given AFTER the first child is born. Nor is it an absolute that the RH- mother will develop antibodies to the foetus/baby at all.

Are you American or Brit or European? Americans seem to be much more conscious of bloodtypes since blood tests are required before marriage here.

I'm from australia. I'm conscious of bloodtypes because of 1. general interest 2. I'm adopted (tends to make one rather curious about genetics!) and 3. Being pregnant at 16, that's when I learnt about Rh- issues.

I'm 35 now and have had 4 full term pregnancies.

Please forgive my nit picking, but I believe the possibility does exist to reject the first baby. Antibodies in the mother are created in response to a mixing of the blood between baby and mother. This is a potentiality during pregnancy. Here in Aus, the medicos insist on giving rhogam at 28 wks of pregnancy. Why would they do that if it's not required til after birth?

As for my point, I was simply wading into the (very interesting) conversation.
Perhaps there was also an allusion to the medical 'profession' being overly interferring with a natural human process. Why is pregnancy so pathologised in our culture??? Ah yes! So much money to be extracted from 'silly vulnerable women' who 'aren't qualified' to take part in the important decisions about their own (and their baby's) bodies.

Then again, with eyes open to a bigger picture/plan, one could suggest there is some other seriously questionable agenda being played out on the western medical stage.

PS. I am not here to push any agenda of my own, simply engaging, sharing and learning.
PPS. Thanks for having me here!

[mind1universe]

You have several `arrogant' unwarranted posts yourself on this thread. Such as:



Strange how you're all scientific and everything when it comes to eye color but then it's `I know people who have tails so I don't need no damn evidence' when it comes to your statement that RH-to RH- either kills the foetus or results in `blue babies' who cannot process oxygen properly. It's almost like 2 different people sharing the same ID :confused:

* You don't state whether those people who have tails are RH- or who come from as you put it `strong' RH- bloodlines.

* You're not RH- yourself so you obviously don't come from a `strong' RH- family.

* You're not RH- so you obviously have no first hand experience with breeding to an RH+ or an RH-man. You just fall back on - `I know people with tails' without specifying anything.

* I am RH- from an RH- family, both parents, all siblings RH-, no tails, no blue babies. You are not, yet you have the arrogance to tell me to research on my own, don't use science. :rolleyes: I am speaking from both medical evidence AND longtime personal experience!



Whenever I see this lie repeated that RH- to RH- can't breed, I will contest it.



Maybe your lying, who knows, your not one to judge others and tell people who they are ;)

Focus on your life and stop worrying what I know. You can still have Rh - parents still be a pale ass baby. Genetics is random. I'm RH + but I have the Reccessive gene dormant in me :)

You try to look like you know a lot about this but you actually don't. There are more than four blood types too. But of course you know everything.


I don't need to debate this with you. I have better things to do:D


I don't have the arrogance to tell you anything. Try tell yourself something. I don't have to answer to you or prove anything to you.


Peace out :P

[drakul]

[QUOTE]I'm from australia. I'm conscious of bloodtypes because of 1. general interest 2. I'm adopted (tends to make one rather curious about genetics!) and 3. Being pregnant at 16, that's when I learnt about Rh- issues.

I'm 35 now and have had 4 full term pregnancies.

Please forgive my nit picking, but I believe the possibility does exist to reject the first baby. Antibodies in the mother are created in response to a mixing of the blood between baby and mother. This is a potentiality during pregnancy. Here in Aus, the medicos insist on giving rhogam at 28 wks of pregnancy. Why would they do that if it's not required til after birth?

My experience in the US is that blood tests are given regularly and frequently (every week in the last month) to check to make sure the mother is not making antibodies to the foetus bloodtype. Then if everything is OK the Rhogam is given within 48 hours after childbirth. So it sounds like you Aussies are more careful about complications than the US medicos are. On the other hand there have been several posters here who are British who say the UK medics are way too casual about it. The Brits don't even bother to test for bloodtype unless there are miscarriages. :( Some who had several miscarriages due to this problem were kind of bitter about it.

As for my point, I was simply wading into the (very interesting) conversation.
Perhaps there was also an allusion to the medical 'profession' being overly interferring with a natural human process. Why is pregnancy so pathologised in our culture??? Ah yes! So much money to be extracted from 'silly vulnerable women' who 'aren't qualified' to take part in the important decisions about their own (and their baby's) bodies.

Yes I think it's fascinating too. I would like to make a point here about the `Blue Baby' syndrome from inability to process oxygen properly which is so frequently and ERRONEOUSLY mentioned as a result of RH- to RH- breeding. When I was pregnant we were shown videos of how babies looked at birth when their mothers had been given anesthetic, and they were BLUE(ish). Why? As I remember it was because the anesthetic affects the oxygen in the blood and so the baby has less access to oxygen during the birth. So I elected to go for natural childbirth, no anesthetic. It worked out fine.

Then again, with eyes open to a bigger picture/plan, one could suggest there is some other seriously questionable agenda being played out on the western medical stage.

Like?

PS. I am not here to push any agenda of my own, simply engaging, sharing and learning.
PPS. Thanks for having me here!

More the merrier, especially for brainstorming. :)

[eclexia]

Delayed response from me due to an insufferable heatwave in our town at the moment.

Re: the questionable agenda. I suspect it's as simply as suppresion of the feminine. I doubt most of the staff even know about the underlying stuff, they're just doing their jobs - labouring under the delusion that they 'know it all' or at least better than any of the women who trust their bodies to these staff.

[rapunzel]

[QUOTE=eclexia;1058406853]

My experience in the US is that blood tests are given regularly and frequently (every week in the last month) to check to make sure the mother is not making antibodies to the foetus bloodtype. Then if everything is OK the Rhogam is given within 48 hours after childbirth. So it sounds like you Aussies are more careful about complications than the US medicos are. On the other hand there have been several posters here who are British who say the UK medics are way too casual about it. The Brits don't even bother to test for bloodtype unless there are miscarriages. :( Some who had several iscarriages due to this problem were kind of bitter about it.......................................

I live in the UK and I had my second baby in 1968. It was then I found out I was RH Neg. My blood was tested regularly during the pregnancy, several times while I was in labour and immediately after giving birth. Fortunately my son was OK. I've no idea whether they are that thorough now.

[talohomidnight]

I have been doing a search after reading a few post about the RH when talking about blood. Now all this is new to me, and I am having a little difficulty in understanding what it is exactly. I do have a slight idea on what A, B, AB, and O blood type. I know that there is minus and pluses that go with those letters. Other than that I really don't know much.

From what I have read that some folks that have the RH blood type have reptilian troubles. Why is that?

Please keep it simple, because this is really the first I am learning about it, and I always get confused when I first start to learn some thing in the beginning.

[drakul]

I have been doing a search after reading a few post about the RH when talking about blood. Now all this is new to me, and I am having a little difficulty in understanding what it is exactly. I do have a slight idea on what A, B, AB, and O blood type. I know that there is minus and pluses that go with those letters. Other than that I really don't know much.

From what I have read that some folks that have the RH blood type have reptilian troubles. Why is that?

Please keep it simple, because this is really the first I am learning about it, and I always get confused when I first start to learn some thing in the beginning.

Just read the links in this thread - from medical sources. As far as the so-called reptilian connection to RH negs - that is pure conjecture and some is pure lies. Such as the oft repeated lie that RH neg cannot breed to RH neg or a `blue baby' will be born that often dies from lack of oxygen.

Actually it's just the opposite - RH neg woman NEEDS RH neg male to prevent the mother's body from developing anti-bodies to the foetus and rejecting it.

An RH positive foetus from an RH positive man can cause the RH neg mother to develop anti-bodies in her blood which will attack the foetus. This is where the RHOGAM injection comes in to prevent this.

This biological need for RH- to RH- is an indication that RH- was originally a separate species. IMO as someone else on this thread pointed out, RH- is not a `hybrid' but the ORIGINAL Homo Sapien. Why? Because RH- O is the ONLY bloodtype which can donate blood to ALL bloodtypes with no adverse reaction.

Medical scientists estimate that 55% of Caucasians carry RH- bloodtype as a recessive gene, so it is well spread through the population.

[firetown]

Just read the links in this thread - from medical sources. As far as the so-called reptilian connection to RH negs - that is pure conjecture and some is pure lies. Such as the oft repeated lie that RH neg cannot breed to RH neg or a `blue baby' will be born that often dies from lack of oxygen.

Actually it's just the opposite - RH neg woman NEEDS RH neg male to prevent the mother's body from developing anti-bodies to the foetus and rejecting it.

An RH positive foetus from an RH positive man can cause the RH neg mother to develop anti-bodies in her blood which will attack the foetus. This is where the RHOGAM injection comes in to prevent this.

This biological need for RH- to RH- is an indication that RH- was originally a separate species. IMO as someone else on this thread pointed out, RH- is not a `hybrid' but the ORIGINAL Homo Sapien. Why? Because RH- O is the ONLY bloodtype which can donate blood to ALL bloodtypes with no adverse reaction. completely agree with the above. As well as the claim that rh negatives have UFO connections. All invented and published before rh negatives were able to come together and make up their own minds. I run an rh negative community and almost all of the real ones, something like 50 of them who I trust the most, have agreed that we never wanted to say anything about not having the UFO connection as most felt there was something wrong with us and we were supposed to believe in UFOs.
Also: Many of the private groups are infiltrated with people who flog the same fake UFO videos left and right and attack people who express doubt with the usual disinfo oneliner "Do you think we are alone on this planet?"

Whoever came up with the saga that people on other planets, if they exist (which they *could*) are more advanced than us when in reality they could be living in caves.

Let's face it: ALL of our UFO and reptilian related "belief" comes from years of being conditioned and not one bit of real indication exists that aliens are visiting our planet and every piece of reptilian footage could have easily been digitally created.


Let's get real here: Everything has been re-written and people are falling for whatever is popular. Including and especially the people who call themselves awake. Their need for a sense of belonging is usually stronger than the average sheep so they are even more scared to not agree with what most so called truth seekers are saying.

Think for yourself people. And unplug from anything you cannot prove on your own.



Medical scientists estimate that 55% of Caucasians carry RH- bloodtype as a recessive gene, so it is well spread through the population.

do you have more information on that?

[lewi]

Negatives are an endangered species!

[jasperart]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dccjBERY9k

[jasperart]

Is it possible to find out if one is Rh- or + without giving blood or convincing a doctor to do it?

[wingedwolfpsion]

I'm rh-. My ex is rh +.

My firstborn is rh +. After his birth, I was given rhogam. It's given to protect future potential rh + fetuses, in case internal trauma from birth causes the blood of the baby to enter into the mother's blood stream. This is what would cause the body to create antibodies against the rh + blood.

Unless the baby's blood enters the mother's body, her body will not respond by creating antibodies, which is why rhogam isn't usually given until after birth. There's really no point in giving it sooner, because it's hard to imagine circumstances where the blood of the fetus and mother would be mingled before birth. The body is really very good at keeping them separate. This is also why an rh- mother will not always reject an rh+ fetus after the first one is born, if she's not given rhogam. She'll only have those antibodies if blood from the baby/umbilicus actually entered her wounds.

[realityisalways]

For the person posting the info on the dietary theories depending on blood types I am O RH - and have always known I am a "protein" guy. If I dont eat red meat regularly (at least every two or three days) I feel extremely weak and cannot perform properly. So that to me makes sense.

[drakul]

Is it possible to find out if one is Rh- or + without giving blood or convincing a doctor to do it?

Don't think there is any way of checking bloodtype unless some blood is taken.

[drakul]

I'm rh-. My ex is rh +.

My firstborn is rh +. After his birth, I was given rhogam. It's given to protect future potential rh + fetuses, in case internal trauma from birth causes the blood of the baby to enter into the mother's blood stream. This is what would cause the body to create antibodies against the rh + blood.

Unless the baby's blood enters the mother's body, her body will not respond by creating antibodies, which is why rhogam isn't usually given until after birth. There's really no point in giving it sooner, because it's hard to imagine circumstances where the blood of the fetus and mother would be mingled before birth. The body is really very good at keeping them separate. This is also why an rh- mother will not always reject an rh+ fetus after the first one is born, if she's not given rhogam. She'll only have those antibodies if blood from the baby/umbilicus actually entered her wounds.

Did you mean her WOMB - not `wounds'?

[wingedwolfpsion]

No, I meant wounds. If you believe wounds do not occur during childbirth, then you haven't had children (or you're a man), lol.
There's all sorts of tearing and abrading and damage. Birth is pretty violent.

[auburnamazon]

The Reptilians are tracking those with Rh-Negative Factor Blood. Going back into time....the Rh-Neg Hybrids came from the DRACO Caverns in the Carpathian Mountains. They were mostly RED Haired, with Green Eyes and Black haired, with Brown Eyes. They tried to infiltrate themselves into the Blond/Brown Haired, with Blue Eyes, Civilization. They wanted to Mate with those who were not Rh-Negatives. Most Rh-Negs have a Lower Body temperature and Blood pressure than Rh-Positives. Many Rh-Negs are born with a CAUDA(tail) or an Extra Vertebra (Tail Bone). Rh-Negs are Hybrids. They are Part Reptilian/part human. If two Rh-Negs try to have a baby it will usually die or be born a "BLUE Baby", because it is Not processing oxygen properly. Thus "Blue-Bloods", if they survive. 5% of the Earth's population are currently Rh-Negatives. But, they are 15% of the population of the England and the USA.

http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199a.shtml

Just ran across your thread by chance...And thought I would share that I am auburn-headed; RH-Negative; my regular body temperature has always been between 97.9-98.2; My blood pressure is generally moderately low 100/70; I am female; I am 6'2; I have dark brown eyes almost black; I was born with an elongated tailbone; alcohol and medications don't metabolize with the same affect as the majority; I had several miscarriages before my children were born. I have two RH-Positive children and one RH-Negative child; Have larger than average lung capacity; very acute hearing and vision; I have a very high tolerance to pain...Any other markers of RH-Negative individuals...I am VERY CURIOUS.

[drakul]

Just ran across your thread by chance...And thought I would share that I am auburn-headed; RH-Negative; my regular body temperature has always been between 97.9-98.2; My blood pressure is generally moderately low 100/70; I am female; I am 6'2; I have dark brown eyes almost black; I was born with an elongated tailbone; alcohol and medications don't metabolize with the same affect as the majority; I had several miscarriages before my children were born. I have two RH-Positive children and one RH-Negative child; Have larger than average lung capacity; very acute hearing and vision; I have a very high tolerance to pain...Any other markers of RH-Negative individuals...I am VERY CURIOUS.

Hi - I am also a woman and 6'2", RH neg.

Psychic/mental/spiritual traits?

Just curious - what is your genetic background?

[marpat]

Hi - I am also a woman and 6'2", RH neg.

Psychic/mental/spiritual traits?

Just curious - what is your genetic background?

lol, I always had you down as a bloke. Must be your height :D

[drakul]

lol, I always had you down as a bloke. Must be your height :D

I am a WOMB MAN :D

I always wondered whether height runs in RH neg bloodlines. My family is all RH neg and all are tall.

[wingedwolfpsion]

I'm just 5'7", not remarkable.

Nor am I more psychic than my rh + kids. (My son's abilities are active sooner than mine were).

[crystalline]

I am a WOMB MAN :D

I always wondered whether height runs in RH neg bloodlines. My family is all RH neg and all are tall.

I am only 5 ft 3 and Rh neg so don't think it is always the case.

[cantata]

I am rh O neg; blonde hair that goes light in summer and darker (reddish blonde) in winter; blue eyes; 5' 6". Mother of one child - a blue eyed girl whose hair has already gone dark blonde and who is also Rh O neg. Although born in the UK, my breeding is purely Irish as far back as can be traced (Mum's line goes back to the ancient kings of Ireland, but she isn't rh neg)

I was given rhogam to create antibodies while I was still pregnant and also had to carry a card: my doctor knew I was a horsewoman and was keen that if I had a bump other medics should know of my blood type in case it had been forced down the umblical cord. Apparently, if my blood had located the foetus and she had not been rh O neg, it would have attacked her as if she was a "germ" or infection.

I have a slightly longer tail bone than most, but nothing I could wag when happy :D

I have a cold body temperature and feel the cold badly (I often claim I should hibernate for winter).

Very analytical - I rarely stop thinking and over-thinking, writing, re-writing, etc.

I have "dry skin" in patches and have once or twice had a short-lived, small outburst of excema or similar condition around my ankles and tail bone :eek: I have a whole bunch of moles and freckles - my school friends used to joke that they could use my back for dot-to-dot games.

But I don't feel "reptilian". I have a (probably over developed) sense of Justice and can't bear injustices; I am compassionate and would see everyone on earth free and happy.

But what an interesting thread this is.

[wingedwolfpsion]

But I don't feel "reptilian". I have a (probably over developed) sense of Justice and can't bear injustices; I am compassionate and would see everyone on earth free and happy.

But what an interesting thread this is.

While I am somewhat inured to injustice, what I'm really against is 'fate'. Anything attempting to create it, I just can't help myself...I have to try to interfere. I favor freedom of choice to the point of ruining the plans of 'the powers that be' even if doing so won't be beneficial. I simply don't like their having plans, lol.
To be honest, I also don't care who or what they are...if they're manipulating and moving people like chess pieces, I'm going to upset the board.

[cantata]

...what I'm really against is 'fate'....if they're manipulating and moving people like chess pieces, I'm going to upset the board.

I agree. But usually when "they" are manipulating people in this way, it's to keep their game loaded and guarantee their outcome = injustice. I hate it.

So, for all that I can supposedly read reptilian traits into myself from various informations, there's another element or trait to me and many other apparent reptilians/hybrids that overrides all the others.

We give a damn for more than ourselves.

[marpat]

I am a WOMB MAN :D

I always wondered whether height runs in RH neg bloodlines. My family is all RH neg and all are tall.

Im pretty average height so dont take those ideas too seriously

[drakul]

Im pretty average height so dont take those ideas too seriously

It may be that you have a recessive gene for height. Especially if RH negs are descended from Neanderthals who were bigger and heavier boned than Homo Sapien. (bigger brains too :D)

My parents were both RH negs, from RH neg dominant families. So all their children are RH negs, because 2 RH negs can only have RH neg offspring. It sounds like most the people on this thread are not from dominant RH neg families but more from the matings of RH neg recessive parents.

The RH neg genes have been diffused throughout Europe and America. A study said that about 40% of RH positive Europeans are recessive RH neg.

[wingedwolfpsion]

More than just one gene controls height!

They found the first height gene back in 2007, but it was only one of many, and it only influences height by a centimeter. :P

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6975865.stm

This particular gene would be considered co-dominant, or 'incomplete dominant', not recessive. (One copy of the gene raises height by .5 cm, 2 copies raise it by 1 cm).

One year later, in 2008, they had identified more than 20 DNA regions that influenced height, so one assumes that, by now, they probably have them all mapped.

Also, while neanderthals definitely had thicker, heavier bones, they were not taller than H. sapiens. They did have larger brains, but smaller prefrontal lobes, and thus lacked the creativity that made our species so unique. While there is some evidence to suggest we hybridized with them, by now of course the differences between us and non-hybrid H. sapiens are so negligible that there's still less difference between you (assuming you're of European descent) and an African bushman than there is between a chihuahua and a German shepherd dog. Whichever genes we got from them, they're heavily diluted into our own species now.

As for rhD negative, the evidence at the moment suggests that this may be the original factor that remained in some regions due to the those particular populations having a greatly reduced incidence of contact with felines. rhD+ apparently helps reduce motor control issues caused by Toxoplasma gondii, so it may be that this beneficial mutation spread quickly as a result.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rh_blood_group_system

This page also shows that our fascination with rhD- isn't really justified, because there are a lot more factors out there which are more interesting than this one. The reasons rhD factor gets so much attention is because rhD- people can be killed if they're given rhD+ blood in a transfusion, and it can also cause problems if the fetus and mother have an rhD factor mismatch (though that's been solved now by giving rhogam).

[auburnamazon]

Hi - I am also a woman and 6'2", RH neg.

Psychic/mental/spiritual traits?

Just curious - what is your genetic background?


Another tall woman! Don't run into too many women my height or taller. I can be pretty psycho, I mean perceptive - lol. I can tell when women are pregnant generally before they even know, and have premonitions before people die. (I don't go around announcing that). Father's side French, Mother's side Danish and German. Both of my parents were under 6 feet tall. My Mother swore I wasn't hers - that I must have been switched at the hospital. I have little hands and feet, and was nicknamed elf, Ms. Spock, and alien in high school because the tops of my ears are slightly pointed. I have flying dreams where I am looking down upon myself while I lie sleeping - some people say that is astroplaning.

How about YOU?

[drakul]

Auburnamazon - Another tall woman! Don't run into too many women my height or taller. I can be pretty psycho, I mean perceptive - lol. I can tell when women are pregnant generally before they even know, and have premonitions before people die. (I don't go around announcing that). Father's side French, Mother's side Danish and German. Both of my parents were under 6 feet tall. My Mother swore I wasn't hers - that I must have been switched at the hospital. I have little hands and feet, and was nicknamed elf, Ms. Spock, and alien in high school because the tops of my ears are slightly pointed. I have flying dreams where I am looking down upon myself while I lie sleeping - some people say that is astroplaning.

How about YOU?

My father is Serbian. Mother - Scotch-Irish/Spanish-Basque - both RH neg and American born. All 4 of us kids are RH neg so that has given me a kind of comparative perspective on being RH neg. From childhood I was made aware that we were slightly different in this way from others. I would say the most obvious characteristics are splendid health (so far) and tall flexible bodies.

As a kid sometime in the deep stillnes of the night, I would wake up, my heart pounding with fear. I could hear hissing voices, like serpents, calling my name, telling me to come to them. I would lay in bed awhile listening to these hissing voices, calling me, and then realize that I was actually hearing the sound of my family breathing, all in unison, even though we were in different rooms, (except my parents who slept together). And I could make out the distinctive breathing of each one of them. So we all have the exact same respiration rate and probably the same heartbeat.

Looking back I guess I have always been a spiritual seeker and have been gifted some psychic experiences which continue to inspire my life.

The more I study and research this physical phenomenon of RH neg bloodtype, the more I am convinced that there was ANOTHER RACE which in prehistoric times merged with Homo Sapien. It's the only conclusion that makes sense.

David Icke states in the Biggest Secret that the RH negs are the hybrids of the Reptilian race - at first I totally rejected this idea, because we RH negs are NOT evil `Reptilians', however - it is stunning how some ancient tribes believed they were descended from `Dragons' -from the Greek - DRAKON - `to see'.

[drakul]

DRAGON POWER - was huge in Russia and the Balkans for thousands of years, lo-oong before the Vatican got into the act with their Order of the Dragon to fight the Turks. Vlad Tepesh (Dracula) was not the family name. He was called Dracula (Son of the Dragon) because his father, Vlad II was in the Dragon Order and so was he. A dragon was their insignia. Only hundreds of years later Dracula/Drakula became synonymous with a vampiric demon.

The more research I do the more I am amazed at how many people believed they were actually descended from Reptilians.

The Greeks for example claim that the founders of Athens were two kings, Kekrops and Erechthonious - these were half man have python. These two kings taught the Greeks the arts of civilization: reading, writing, the wheel, the plow, etc. Ever notice the big python that stands next to Athena in those replicas of her statue in the Acropolis? That is Erechthonious.

http://tagdesignstudios.com/Teach/it...s/Image67.html

Note - the priestess of the Greek Oracle at Delphi was known as the Pythia or Pythoness.

The Scythians of Russia believed they were descended from Hercules and a giant DRAKAINA - half python half woman called Skythia. She had 3 sons by him.

The list goes on and on. The Indians believed in NAGAS - half human - half python with high spiritual powers who lived underground and owned vast treasures.

Chinese and Japanese royalty also claimed they were descended from dragons.

Note - Dragon is not a Latinate or Romance language word. This word and concept was unknown in Western Europe. Dragon comes from the Greek DRAKON - To SEE or the One with the Evil Eye

So you have to wonder WHY? Why would so many people, some of higher civilizations believe they were descended from reptiles?

Then there are the SAUROMATAE - the name actually means Reptile (Sauro) People (Matae). They believed they were descended from the Royal Skythians (Drakaina mother line) and a group of Amazons. The Sauromatae became very powerful and invaded central and southern Europe. The Serbs (Serboi) are believed to be a Sauromatian tribe.

Read Herodotus, The Histories(500BC) if you want to learn more about the Scythians and Sauromatae. It's a fantastic read.

[auburnamazon]

I find this all fascinating and entertaining. I am very flexible, too. I was in very good health - until I started having children. Discovered I had reproductive abnormalities.

Do you happen to see any particular numbers by chance? The last several years I have the same sequence of numbers appearing frequently.

I found what you described about breathing very familiar. When my children were little, and even now - even though our bedrooms are far apart and separated through plaster walls, I will wake up in the night and hear them breathing. I guessed that just fell under the acute hearing I mentioned in my first post.

Do your nails and hair grow really quickly?

[drakul]

[QUOTE=auburnamazon;1060350312]I find this all fascinating and entertaining. I am very flexible, too. I was in very good health - until I started having children. Discovered I had reproductive abnormalities.

Do you happen to see any particular numbers by chance? The last several years I have the same sequence of numbers appearing frequently.

No number sequences reappearing.

I found what you described about breathing very familiar. When my children were little, and even now - even though our bedrooms are far apart and separated through plaster walls, I will wake up in the night and hear them breathing. I guessed that just fell under the acute hearing I mentioned in my first post.

It would be interesting to know if your children have the same respiration rate as you. I have always noticed that others tend to breathe faster than I do. My husband for example breathes about 1.5 times or even twice as fast as I do. His heartbeat is also faster. Sometimes this even makes it difficult for me to relax and fall asleep at night.

Typically in the animal kingdom the faster the respiration rate/heartbeat, the shorter the life span. For example many species of birds have very fast heart rate and only live 5 years or so. But I haven't seen anything on this in human studies. Although this knowledge must be very ancient, because with yoga the emphasis is on controlling and slowing the respiration and heartbeat for meditation.

Do your nails and hair grow really quickly?

No I can't really say that they do. However I have noticed that both men and women in my family have full heads of hair which do not seem to thin or go bald as they age. My grandmother's hair did not turn gray until she was in her late 60's. This always amazed me. Hopefully I am following in her footsteps. :p

My grandmother also had strange eyes. They were like the yellow/green eyes of a wolf or a cat. I called them chartreuse eyes.

[lightgiver]

People with O Negative blood are "universal blood donors". In an emergency O Negative blood can be given to anybody regardless of their blood type. However, it is important to note that people with O Negative blood can only receive O Negative blood...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHPZd5IdmCI&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/eHPZd5IdmCI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25_MNd-RDa8&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/25_MNd-RDa8

An American Antarctic research team stationed at the United States National Science Institute Station 4 (or Outpost 31) is alerted by gunfire and explosions. An Alaskan Malamute is trying to evade a Norwegian helicopter with an on-board rifleman frantically trying to kill the dog. The helicopter lands, and the pilot (named Matias) attempts to volley a thermite charge, but accidentally drops the grenade. He tries to pick it up but dies in the subsequent explosion, destroying the helicopter in the process. Unable to communicate with the team in English, the rifleman (named Lars ) who survived the explosion fires at the dog, grazing George Bennings, one of the researchers. Lars is shot and killed by Garry , the station commander.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUbmuuvA7zU&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/gUbmuuvA7zU

https://www.armydogtags.com/a_blood.php

[lightgiver]

DRAGON POWER - was huge in Russia and the Balkans for thousands of years, lo-oong before the Vatican got into the act with their Order of the Dragon to fight the Turks. Vlad Tepesh (Dracula) was not the family name. He was called Dracula (Son of the Dragon) because his father, Vlad II was in the Dragon Order and so was he. A dragon was their insignia. Only hundreds of years later Dracula/Drakula became synonymous with a vampiric demon.

Read Herodotus, The Histories(500BC) if you want to learn more about the Scythians and Sauromatae. It's a fantastic read.

Vlad Dracula Tepes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe_g1a3DW4Y&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/Pe_g1a3DW4Y

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=133148&page=8

[drakul]

@ Lightgiver - Cool avatar. Great thread.

I noted in the video you posted about Vlad Dracula they made a big point of saying that Vlad was an `Orthodox Christian'. Not true. Both Vlad and his father, Vlad II converted to Roman Catholicism in order to join the Pope's Order of the Dragon.

The ruling family's conversion to Catholicism was apparently a big part of the alienation between the Vlad II & III and the Romanian Orthodox Boyars. While Vlad III was given by his father as a hostage to the the Turks, (in return for good behavior), Vlad II converted to Catholicism. He and his eldest son were then killed by their own Boyars (nobles). The Turks then brought Vlad III (Dracula) in to rule as their proxy. With Turkish support, Vlad took viscious revenge against his own people/boyars, killing thousands of them including their families.

Once in power and with no opposition in Romania, Dracula turned against the Turks and joined the Pope's Order of the Dragon (converting to Catholicism). The Vatican agenda was to convert predominantly Orthodox Romania to Catholicism, but this was not to be. Dracula was hated and feared by his own people. Meanwhile Vatican provided little if any help to fight the Turks.

Much of this info is contained in the book - In Search of Dracula by R. Florescu

It is estimated Dracula killed 50,000 of his own people, a huge number considering how sparsely Romania was populated at the time.

[auburnamazon]

[QUOTE]

No number sequences reappearing.



It would be interesting to know if your children have the same respiration rate as you. I have always noticed that others tend to breathe faster than I do. My husband for example breathes about 1.5 times or even twice as fast as I do. His heartbeat is also faster. Sometimes this even makes it difficult for me to relax and fall asleep at night.

Typically in the animal kingdom the faster the respiration rate/heartbeat, the shorter the life span. For example many species of birds have very fast heart rate and only live 5 years or so. But I haven't seen anything on this in human studies. Although this knowledge must be very ancient, because with yoga the emphasis is on controlling and slowing the respiration and heartbeat for meditation.



No I can't really say that they do. However I have noticed that both men and women in my family have full heads of hair which do not seem to thin or go bald as they age. My grandmother's hair did not turn gray until she was in her late 60's. This always amazed me. Hopefully I am following in her footsteps. :p

My grandmother also had strange eyes. They were like the yellow/green eyes of a wolf or a cat. I called them chartreuse eyes.

My respiration rate is slow and so is my heartbeat. I will have to pay more attention to my children and see. Me and my children have very thick hair, too. My eyes are dark brown almost black, but I had two very blue-eyed children, and their eyes don't glow red in photos, but gold or silver, like the Riddick effect.

[drakul]

@auburnamazon - Interesting about your slower than norm heartbeat/respiration. Many people on this thread have reported this phenom. But no one thinks its unusual until they get to compare notes with other RH negs.

I was thinking back to when you mentioned your parents said they could hardly believe you were their child. My parents have always told me that as well. They always told me how shocked they were the first time they saw me. Mainly they said it was because I was so blonde. Dad had black hair, olive-skin and dark brown eyes. Mom was dark-haired, fair with hazel eyes. Both my parents are RH neg, so all 4 of us kids are too. In our youth, none of us looked like our parents. However we all looked like brothers and sisters, you could tell we came from the same parents.

[marpat]

@auburnamazon - Interesting about your slower than norm heartbeat/respiration. Many people on this thread have reported this phenom. But no one thinks its unusual until they get to compare notes with other RH negs.

I was thinking back to when you mentioned your parents said they could hardly believe you were their child. My parents have always told me that as well. They always told me how shocked they were the first time they saw me. Mainly they said it was because I was so blonde. Dad had black hair, olive-skin and dark brown eyes. Mom was dark-haired, fair with hazel eyes. Both my parents are RH neg, so all 4 of us kids are too. In our youth, none of us looked like our parents. However we all looked like brothers and sisters, you could tell we came from the same parents.

Well my parents were both dark haired and yet I was blond until I was about 8, then my hair changed colour.

[drakul]

@Marpat - yes recessive gene for blondness. Amazing how it pops up. Do you know if one or both of your parents were RH neg?

[lightgiver]

It is estimated Dracula killed 50,000 of his own people, a huge number considering how sparsely Romania was populated at the time.

Probably exaggerated...;)

@Marpat - yes recessive gene for blondness. Amazing how it pops up. Do you know if one or both of your parents were RH neg?


Egyptian Female Pharaoh: Queen Hatshepsut, wife of Pharaoh Thutmosis II. She ruled Egypt after Thutmosis' death in 1520 BC. Her long blonde hair and facial structure has been well preserved by the embalming process of the time...

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/redhairedmummiesegypt.html

[marpat]

@Marpat - yes recessive gene for blondness. Amazing how it pops up. Do you know if one or both of your parents were RH neg?

Cant be sure but one of them definitely was as I am B neg

[drakul]

Cant be sure but one of them definitely was as I am B neg

Your parents could have both been RH positive with an RH neg recessive gene.

I am B neg also. B neg is one of the rarest bloodlines in the world. Something like 2% of the world is B neg.

[marpat]

Your parents could have both been RH positive with an RH neg recessive gene.

I am B neg also. B neg is one of the rarest bloodlines in the world. Something like 2% of the world is B neg.

I think its rarity depends in what region of the world you live in. In the UK we are in the 2% region but I think the proportions change in places like the Basque region, etc.

[charlesupton]

I am a published writer on comparative religion and traditional metaphysics, as well as “metaphysics and social criticism”. In the book entitled Weird Kentucky, one of the Weird U.S. series, on p. 89, various Reptilian apparitions in the state of Kentucky are recounted. The once-famous Kentucky preacher William Branham (1909-1965) believed that the Serpent in the Garden of Eden was a Reptilian lizard-man who walked on 2 legs. Be that as it may, it is obvious to ANYONE who has informed him- or herself about the phenomenology of the demonic that Reptilians are DEMONS, who can assume many shapes. Why are reptilian believers (apparently) afraid that they will appear as religious fanatics is they believe in demons, but not that they will appear as lunatics if they accept the Reptilians as a special class of beings who have nothing at all to do with the demonic? Reptilian believers need to investigate the demonologies of ALL RELIGIONS AND ALL CULTURES IN ALL PLACES AND TIMES; if they do so, they will get a much better idea of what David Icke saw when he saw the Reptilians. Why not tap the huge available mass of cultural and historical material in SUPPORT of the reality of beings like the Reptilians, rather than just reinventing the wheel, reinventing the lizard, reinventing the demon? Why wish to appear as “eccentrics”? Why not discover and repeat the fact that the truth of the Reptilians HAS ALWAYS BEEN KNOWN? David Icke has many very important things to say, which means that to the degree that he gains in credibility he can better serve the human race; if the various religions and many primitive tribes possess huge archives and analyses relating to beings like the Reptilians, why ignore all this valuable material? Even if you don’t believe in God, you can learn a huge amount from these records of thousands of years of human experience. In any case, the web address of Weird U.S. is “WeirdUS.com”; their email is Editor@WeirdUS.com.

[lightgiver]

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3171/miracleu.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/miracleu.png/)

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9238/hearing.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/hearing.png/)

[drakul]

@charlesuptpon - you make an important point about demons being in fact reptilians. So where does this thread about RH negatives fit in with your view?

[drakul]

@Lightgiver - Your opening statement states that Reptilians are tracking RH negs. What is your proof of that?

[marpat]

@Lightgiver - Your opening statement states that Reptilians are tracking RH negs. What is your proof of that?

He has no proof of that. My blood group is a matter of govermnent record as is LG's.

[drakul]

He has no proof of that. My blood group is a matter of govermnent record as is LG's.

Are you saying the gubmint has a record of every person's bloodtype? I doubt that, especially since most people don't even know their own bloodtype.

[lightgiver]

The Rhesus factor is one pair of genes which determines whether you produce a certain antibody generator, or antigen. We determine whether blood is positive by checking for the resulting antibodies. But here’s the important part: Rh positive is a dominant gene, and Rh negative is a recessive gene.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Emily_Browning_2010_Comic-Con_Cropped.jpg/781px-Emily_Browning_2010_Comic-Con_Cropped.jpg

That means that if either parent carries the positive gene, the odds are on positive for the child. Rh negative, like red hair, is slowly dying out through the free interbreeding of those who have it and those who don’t...

http://www.asktheatheists.com/questions/191-if-we-decended-from-apes-how-do-we-explain-rh-negative-blood/

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=1060&page=1957

[drakul]

`Ask the Athiests' or Ask the Idiots - sounds about the same. Their claim is that there was a branch of monkeys who were RH neg - must be right? Because evolution from monkeys is a FACT. :rolleyes: Therefore according to that logic there must have been an RH neg ape which died out. Of course this claim has the unintended consequence of adding credence to the theory that RH negs are descended from a different species. :D

But of course fossils of monkeys with RH neg bloodtype can never be found so what are these hoi faloi athiests talking about?

Further more according to a study, approx 40% of RH positive Caucasians carry the RH neg gene, so it's not exactly dying out.

Consider also that RH negs may also be healthier than RH positive. Higher resistance to disease such as AIDS. Lower blood pressure is an indication of this (if true). This would certainly help prevent RH negs from dying out.

[wingedwolfpsion]

Well, no.
I do believe I already explained the benefit of being RH positive. It confers some protection from the effects of the cat parasite, toxoplasma.

The RH positive mutation is supplanting the RH negative mutation for this reason. People infected with toxoplasma are more likely to die in car accidents if they are affected more dramatically.

This is why those with RH negative blood are so much less common. If we figure out a way to combat toxoplasma, or the RH negative winds up giving us a bigger advantage by helping with some other potentially deadly issue that affects the young, then the population of RH negative folks may expand again.

As for evolution...we evolved from an ancestor that had something in common with a lemur, which evolved into something that was similar to an ape but walked on its feet and hands like a lemur, which evolved into the first homonids (who walk bipedally on their feet), and the first apes (which walk on their feet and knuckles). We didn't evolve from apes, apes are our cousins. We didn't evolve from monkeys, they had nothing to do with it.

There were a WHOLE BUNCH of upright-walking homonids around for couple of million years before a nifty homonid called Homo heidelbergensis had a very successful run, and produced two descendents--first, Homo neanderthalus, which evolved in Europe to the North as a carnivore, and then us--Homo sapiens, the omnivore, in Africa.

You see, evolution works in small steps...a little mutation confers a little advantage, and because of that, those who possess it survive better, and reproduce more. Soon, everyone has that mutation, because the ones who didn't have it, didn't survive or have kids. It's really that simple.

So, no. Monkeys didn't turn into humans. It was a long progression of small changes occurring over an inconceivably long period of time, and there were LOTS AND LOTS OF PEOPLE before Homo sapiens first opened its eyes as a species. These people weren't as smart as we are, and weren't as creative as we are, but they were people, nonetheless. We've found their tools, their campfires, and even some evidence that they had reverence for their dead, so perhaps they even had some form of spirituality. They were not monkeys. They were not 'beasts'. They were people. Different people.

Would you like to see his face, and look into his eyes, resurrected by science and computer technology from a cache of forgotten bone?
http://media.smithsonianmag.com/images/Homo-heidelbergensis-5.jpg

Does he look like a monkey to you? He is the direct ancestor of Homo sapiens. His species is the one we evolved from. Get a grip.

[ufochick]

Are you saying the gubmint has a record of every person's bloodtype? I doubt that, especially since most people don't even know their own bloodtype.

All babies born in any type of medical situation are typed at birth in the US.

[sirius]

http://www.orangutanssp.org/ga_blood_typing.pdf

[drakul]

http://www.orangutanssp.org/ga_blood_typing.pdf

Thanks for posting this scientific study - however I don't have time or energy to comb through it. Would you like to tell us why you posted it? Overall what is the finding as relates to RH negatives?

[drakul]

All babies born in any type of medical situation are typed at birth in the US.

Yes in the US this is true. To my knowledge it is also true that US couples need to be blood tested in order to get a state marriage license. However this practice relatively new, since WWII. But is this done ALL OVER THE WORLD?

A number of UK/European women who are RH neg have stated on this and other RH neg threads that they were NOT blood typed when they were married or even when they became pregnant. And it was not until they had problems with their pregnancy, even losing babies, that they were blood typed as RH negative.

[drakul]

Well, no.
I do believe I already explained the benefit of being RH positive. It confers some protection from the effects of the cat parasite, toxoplasma.

The RH positive mutation is supplanting the RH negative mutation for this reason. People infected with toxoplasma are more likely to die in car accidents if they are affected more dramatically.

This is why those with RH negative blood are so much less common. If we figure out a way to combat toxoplasma, or the RH negative winds up giving us a bigger advantage by helping with some other potentially deadly issue that affects the young, then the population of RH negative folks may expand again.

This makes no sense to me - are you saying the main threat to human life is from CAT PARASITE (Toxoplasma)? :D So I as an RH negative I am more susceptible to cat parasites than my RH positive husband who is allergic to cats? I guess I better get rid of my cat! :rolleyes:

And this is based on what evidence?

As for evolution...we evolved from an ancestor that had something in common with a lemur, which evolved into something that was similar to an ape but walked on its feet and hands like a lemur, which evolved into the first homonids (who walk bipedally on their feet), and the first apes (which walk on their feet and knuckles). We didn't evolve from apes, apes are our cousins. We didn't evolve from monkeys, they had nothing to do with it.

The term `monkeys' is simply used as an overarching all inclusive term.

There were a WHOLE BUNCH of upright-walking homonids around for couple of million years before a nifty homonid called Homo heidelbergensis had a very successful run, and produced two descendents--first, Homo neanderthalus, which evolved in Europe to the North as a carnivore, and then us--Homo sapiens, the omnivore, in Africa.

You see, evolution works in small steps...a little mutation confers a little advantage, and because of that, those who possess it survive better, and reproduce more. Soon, everyone has that mutation, because the ones who didn't have it, didn't survive or have kids. It's really that simple.

So, no. Monkeys didn't turn into humans. It was a long progression of small changes occurring over an inconceivably long period of time, and there were LOTS AND LOTS OF PEOPLE before Homo sapiens first opened its eyes as a species. These people weren't as smart as we are, and weren't as creative as we are, but they were people, nonetheless. We've found their tools, their campfires, and even some evidence that they had reverence for their dead, so perhaps they even had some form of spirituality. They were not monkeys. They were not 'beasts'. They were people. Different people.

Sounds like your inference here is that RH negatives were the ORIGINAL PEOPLE and RH positives are a MUTATION that is in the majority because RH positives are more resistant to disease. True?

Would you like to see his face, and look into his eyes, resurrected by science and computer technology from a cache of forgotten bone?
http://media.smithsonianmag.com/images/Homo-heidelbergensis-5.jpg

Does he look like a monkey to you? He is the direct ancestor of Homo sapiens. His species is the one we evolved from. Get a grip.


Oh the supercilious tone - O Master of the Obvious - :rolleyes: No I don't need to see another pic of a hominid. Like most of us, I've already seen hundreds. History channel even did one of Jesus Christ only slightly removed from a primitive hominid. Have you seen that one?

[ufochick]

Yes in the US this is true. To my knowledge it is also true that US couples need to be blood tested in order to get a state marriage license. However this practice relatively new, since WWII. But is this done ALL OVER THE WORLD?

A number of UK/European women who are RH neg have stated on this and other RH neg threads that they were NOT blood typed when they were married or even when they became pregnant. And it was not until they had problems with their pregnancy, even losing babies, that they were blood typed as RH negative.

I believe is it country wide, the blood tests for a marriage liscence. It is supposedly to check for STDs.

[lightgiver]

Maybe Rhesus negs originate from Mars...

[marpat]

Are you saying the gubmint has a record of every person's bloodtype? I doubt that, especially since most people don't even know their own bloodtype.

Well LG and I are known to the government because of our military service, as is any serving person. Women who have had children generally get a blood test too to determine of they are Rh neg as it can cause problems. Not everybody is on such a list as many people have never need a blood test.

Personally I doubt anybody is being tracked as such with regard to special blood types and bloodlines

[lightgiver]

Are you saying the gubmint has a record of every person's bloodtype? I doubt that, especially since most people don't even know their own bloodtype.

How do you know if it's not secretly taken at birth ???

The author, Laurence Gardner, is the present Chancellor of the Imperial Court of Dragon Sovereignty and his postal address in Devon, England is at Colomba House. Columba = dove = Queen Semiramis. According to Gardner, the name Dracula means ‘Son of Dracul’ and was inspired by Prince Vlad III of Transylvania-Wallachia, a Chancellor of the Court of the Dragon in the 15th century. The prince’s father was called Dracul within the Court. Dracul = Draco...

@Lightgiver - Your opening statement states that Reptilians are tracking RH negs. What is your proof of that?

Maybe Rhesus negs originate from Mar...s...

Autistic Blood Pat terns...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1mRv1UKMNk&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/E1mRv1UKMNk

[lightgiver]

Take the time to compare the layout pat tern of Tikal and Stonehenge with the flash graphic of Mar s and compare how all portray the stars of the Pleiades...

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3428/pleiadesukschmidt.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/pleiadesukschmidt.gif/)

http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/mars.htm

[drakul]

I believe is it country wide, the blood tests for a marriage liscence. It is supposedly to check for STDs.

Yes blood typing is countrywide but only in the US, not worldwide. Even in the US it is stunning how may have no idea about their blood type.

[wingedwolfpsion]

Of course Toxoplasma isn't 'the main threat to human life'. It's just A threat to human life, in this modern world.

Humans are a dead-end host for Toxoplasma, but we pick it up readily simply by breathing when we change the kitty litter. If our cat happens to have the parasite (and if it's ever been outside, or around cats that have, it probably does), then we are likely to wind up with it.

Toxoplasma likes to do fun things to the brains of its intermediate hosts...the intended intermediate host is a rodent. It travels into the brain of the rodent, and switches off its fear of the smell of cats.

It travels into the brains of humans as well, and does funny things there. It affects our behavior. The thing that can get us killed, however, is when it slows our reaction time. Impairment of reaction time naturally makes a person more likely to get into an automobile accident, which means their risk of death is higher than a person who doesn't have impaired reaction time.

People with RH positive blood have resistance to the parasite's mind-bending effects, and their reaction time is not as badly affected as those who are RH negative. So, they are less likely to get into a fatal car crash.

There are many other ways to die in life, but when it comes to accidental deaths, reaction time does make a difference. When you look at the long picture, those who are too slow to block a sword, too slow to get out of the way of a horse's kick, too slow to avoid another car...they're just at a disadvantage in life. They're far more likely to die young, before they can have children.

Up until quite recently, the insidious influence of Toxoplasma gondii on humans was not understood at all. All that we knew about it was, if a pregnant woman became actively infected, the parasite would cause birth defects in her child. This is why pregnant women are advised to avoid changing cat litter, and not to get a new cat in their household.

Up to one third of all people in the world are infected with Toxoplasma gondii, so this is NOT an insignificant influence on us, not at all.
You have a cat? You probably have the parasite. Once the active infection subsides, it encysts within your body and remains there, dormant. The active infection causes nothing more than a brief bout of flu-like symptoms in people.

Not only are you more likely to contract Toxoplasmosis than your husband who is allergic...if you live with and take care of a cat, you probably have had it for a long time now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis

This parasite is a very good reason for the RH positive blood type to be favored. Which came first, RH positive, or RH negative? Well, RH negative seems to be largely confined to Europe, so in reality, it's probably the mutation that came second. It had the chance to become locally dominant among a people who did not generally keep cats in and around their homes, because, as was pointed out, RH negative blood does have some health benefits.

Those benefits simply aren't enough to trump the suppression of Toxoplasma in areas where cats are common.

Toxoplasmosis can be treated while the infection is active, but once dormant, there is no drug that can ferret out all of the parasites, in their hiding places (particularly when they hide in the brain).

This parasite has a profound influence on humans, and may have even altered the courses of our cultures.
http://schizophreniabulletin.oxfordjournals.org/content/33/3/757.full

Also, requirements for blood testing and typing in the United States are decided by the States, not the Federal Government. There are many States that do not require such things for a marriage license. (Nebraska did not).

[drakul]

@wingedwolfpsion - Am I missing something here? Where in your posts is there a link to a study showing that RH negs are especially susceptible to toxoplasma?

One of your links states: `Up to one third of the world's human population is estimated to carry a Toxoplasma infection'. Since RH negs are only about 5% of the world's population, the numbers would seem to indicate that RH positive are just as susceptible to the disease. :rolleyes:

[wingedwolfpsion]

RH positive people contract toxoplasma parasites just as easily as RH negative people.

They're resistant to the mental and physiological effects the parasite causes, they're not resistant to the parasite itself.

In other words, an RH positive person will not experience as much motor skill impairment when infected with toxoplasma gondii as an RH negative person would experience when infected.

Latent infections--where the parasite has encysted and gone dormant--continue to affect the brain and nervous system. Being able to resist those effects gives people a distinct advantage.

[drakul]

@ wingedwolfpsion - You didn't answer my question - Where is your PROOF of this claim?

Obviously you don't have any - or you would have presented it by now.

[wingedwolfpsion]

Actually, I made the stupid assumption that you had actually read the sources I already provided.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rh+negative+toxoplasma

[drakul]

Actually, I made the stupid assumption that you had actually read the sources I already provided.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rh+negative+toxoplasma

Strange, one of the articles provided in your link completely contradicts your own position. It says that RH negs are MORE resistant to Toxoplasma and other viruses than RH positive. Don't you read your own links? -

Stanford School of Medicine -

Rh negative blood is very rare and there are pros and cons to having this blood type. As I mentioned above, having Rh negative blood can cause problems during pregnancy for the mother and child. But it isn't necessarily all bad.

One idea is that Rh negative people may be resistant to some of the effects of the parasite Toxoplasma. This parasite can invade our body and damage the brain, especially in babies.

It looks like Rh negative people may be less affected by this parasite. In areas with a lot of Toxoplasma, being Rh negative might be an advantage. The less severe effects of the parasite may outweigh the effects on pregnancy.

Rh negative people may also be resistant to other viruses or parasites that we haven't discovered yet. There is still so much to be understood!

http://www.thetech.org/genetics/ask.php?id=381

[wingedwolfpsion]

So, out of all of the quality links that came up, you chose a .org link with some random guy answering questions.
*shakes head*

Something from the actual Stanford School of Medicine would be on a .edu link, not a .org.
This individual mis-remembered something he read, and you believed it?
Did you bother to look at any of the other links? Did you bother to check to see whether they sites the information came from had ANY authority? (Clearly you did not).

Search skill fail. Try again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis

[drakul]

@wingedwolfpsion - Au contraire - The source I used - http://www.thetech.org/genetics/ask.php?id=381 (from link you provided but obviously did not read) is from a primary source - Stanford Medical School - unlike the re-hashed wikipedia sites you now insist we use (and yes I read Wiki too). The author of the article I used is a GENETICIST at STANFORD UNIV. So your wiki article may have done some sloppy research with its findings about RH negs being more prone to cat Toxoplasma.

Stanford Med School site is one of the very few primary sources I have seen which affirm that `RH NEGS MAY HAVE ADDED RESISTANCE TO VIRUSES' - NOT just to Toxoplasma. The medical estab is apparently doing studies on this. They already KNOW but they aren't telling us. The question is WHY NOT?

From your links - another article cited below is interesting too. It states -Uninfected (by toxoplasma) RH Neg drivers have MUCH FASTER REACTION TIME than RH positives. Wowza. However, the way the study is written makes you wonder if they deliberately infected these soldiers with Toxoplasma in order to test how quickly their reaction time dropped off.

Also it does not tell you whether RH negs were MORE OR LESS SUSCEPTIBLE TO INFECTION. Scientists obviously know this because they know the percentage of people who are RH neg (15%) and those percent of Europeans who have toxoplasma (30%). So all that would be necessary is to look at the percentage of RH neg drivers who have Toxoplasma to discover whether RH negs have a built in resistance to the parasite. But the article does not reveal this essential fact.

Note - The article below states there were `no large cats in Europe'. Not true - There were large cats in Europe, including leopards and pumas. Huge CAVE LIONS existed in Europe even up to 2,000 years ago. A simple google search will tell you that - so why would this supposedly scientific study even make this fallacious claim? (unless they are hiding something)


It was found that, amongst uninfected men, Rh-negative individuals react much faster than Rh-positive individuals.

However, the ability to react rapidly to a stimulus decreases in Rh-positive men only minimally following infection by T. gondii, while this decrease is very substantial in Rh-negative men and their reaction times are finally much worse than those of Rh-positive men (Fig. VIII.8). Approximately 30% of the people in Europe are infected by T. gondii.

A study performed on blood donors showed that, amongst infected persons, the performance of Rh-positive heterozygotes Rh +/– is best, that of Rh-negative Rh -/- homozygotes is worst (and worsens almost immediately after infection) and the performance of Rh-positive homozygotes Rh +/+ is only slightly better than that of Rh-negative homozygotes (but worsens more slowly). Thus, it is highly probable that the current occurrence of both alleles of the RHD-gene in the population is maintained in the long term by selection for heterozygotes.

Selection for heterozygotes apparently played a great role particularly in the past when an individual’s reaction time could play an important role in the survival and reproduction success of an individual. Selection pressure for Rh-positive heterozygotes, however, apparently still plays a certain role in modern society. When 3900 military drivers were examined for toxoplasmosis and Rh phenotype on entering 1.5-year compulsory military service and the records of the military police were subsequently examined, it was found that Rh-negative persons infected by toxoplasmosis had more than twice the probability of being involved in a traffic accident than uninfected persons or Rh-positive persons.

Amongst Rh-negative persons recently infected by toxoplasmosis (i.e. persons with high anti-toxoplasmosis antibody titres) the probability of an accident was as much as 5x higher than amongst other persons.

The high proportion of Rh-negative persons in the European population could be connected with the fact that, until recently, big cats (the definitive host of Toxoplasma gondii) were practically not present here and thus toxoplasmosis was rare (and Rh-negative persons were at an advantage compared to the rest of the population). The low percentage of Rh-negative persons in Africa (less than 1%) could be related to the high prevalence of toxoplasmosis there, which often approaches 100%.

[eviltwin666]

Loads of info on Rh- here

http://rhnegative.myfastforum.org/index.html

[drakul]

Loads of info on Rh- here

http://rhnegative.myfastforum.org/index.html

Thanks for the link! This site combines scientific papers with made up bullshido, so you have to siphon through it but it is well worth checking out. I thought the following article was interesting due to the prevalent report by RH negs on this thread that their respiration rate seems to be slower than RH positive.

According to the article - it seems scientists think that the RH neg `mutation' MAY be a recent evolutionary response to lower levels of oxygen in higher elevation Europe as opposed to the `birth place of man' in Sth Africa. This increased level of oxygen would logically require less effort at breathing:

In other words, the Rh mutation from Rh-positive to Rh-negative is arguably environmental in cause, with the human body adjusting to different CO2 and oxygen conditions as present in Western Europe and as opposed to those prevalent in the original homeland of Africa, as evidenced by the differing atmospheric CO2 sinks prevailing in oceans bordering on the two different geographic locations. Presumably, the reason for the mutation was in part "the air" (and climate) and the human body's changed oxygen (O2)/carbon dioxide (CO2) balance.

We presume that the reason for the mutation can also be analogized to the body's reaction to decreased levels of oxygen at higher altitudes, which leads to substantial biological reactions:

"Adaptation to a lower oxygen environment causes the body to produce a chain of biological reactions. The heart and lungs are stimulated to increase their functions and even over the long term, to increase in size. Blood vessels dilate and new capillaries are formed in the heart, brain and skeletal muscles. In the blood, levels of erythropoietin (EPO), haemoglobin, myoglobin and 2,3 diglycerophosphate increase. All these factors make the blood capable of carrying more oxygen and on a cellular level there is a growth of the cellular structures needed for the metabolism of oxygen. After IHT (Intermittent Hypoxic Treatment) the lactate threshold increases indicating that the body is utilising available oxygen more efficiently."

The same holds true for thermoregulation, i.e. the body's response to temperature. The Medical Department of the U.S. Army has published a book titled Medical Aspects of Harsh Environments (Volume I), which contains a great amount of relevant information about human adaptation and human physiological responses to heat and cold. A map of the average wet bulb globe temperature (WBGT) index in the northern hemisphere during July is shown at page 103 of that volume and a similar map at page 105 of that volume shows the relationship between selected regional skin temperatures and core body temperature at rest over a range of temperate and hot climatic conditions.

It is clear from the discussion in subsequent pages of that volume that thermoregulation is related to oxygen uptake and thus of course, conversely, to carbon dioxide expulsion. Moreover, not only does the respiratory system react significantly to heat and cold (see page 366 of that volume), but this is accompanied by changes in the solubility of oxygen and carbon dioxide in the blood (p. 368): "as the temperature decreases, the solubility of carbon dioxide in blood increases."

Since the Rh protein affects the rate at which carbon dioxide "channels through" cell membranes, its role may well be comparable in respiration to that found for ion pathways in the plasma membrane. As noted at page 179 of that volume:

"Ions do not readily cross lipid bilayers despite their large concentration gradients across plasma membranes. In general, they require specialized channels or carriers to do so..... Membrane channels are proteins that contain hydrophilic pores that penetrate the lipid bilayer, permitting the diffusion of specific ions down their electrochemical gradients to enter or leave cells."

Given the fact that "the Rh polypeptide is a major fatty acid-acylated erythrocyte membrane protein", i.e. an element of our red blood cells - which transport oxygen to the blood, the discovery that Rh proteins act as gas channels for carbon dioxide in living organisms is one of the most important discoveries made in medicine (and genetics) - ever.

http://rhnegative.myfastforum.org/about175.html&highlight=


OK so RH neg may have faster reaction time and more efficient use of oxygen. It would be interesting to find out the percentage of athletes that are RH negative!

[drakul]

Another interesting scientific study from the same site provided by Eviltwin666 -

According to this article, RH + children from RH - mothers are more likely to develop schizophrenia later in life The article also states that OXYGEN DEPRIVATION of the fetus is an accepted cause of schizophrenia. Therefore it stands to reason that if an RH - uses oxygen more efficiently (and therefore has slower respiration) than RH + (see study above) - then the RH + fetus might in fact be oxygen deprived in an RH - womb. :eek:


Genetic Clash With Mother Doubles Child's Schizophrenia Risk

Scientists have discovered that infants possessing a cell protein called Rhesus (Rh) factor that their mothers lack are twice as likely to develop schizophrenia in young adulthood. Reported in the December issue of the peer-reviewed American Journal of Human Genetics, the study suggests that the gene that codes for Rh factor is to blame for the higher risk. "Previous studies reported a link between mothers and infants who are Rh-incompatible and a higher rate of schizophrenia in the children later in life," said Dr. Christina Palmer, a research scientist at the UCLA Neuropsychiatric Institute. "Our research is the first to take a genetic approach to examining this increased risk."From the University of California at Los Angeles:
Genetic Clash With Mother Doubles Child's Schizophrenia Risk: Rh-positive Children of Rh-negative Mothers More Susceptible, UCLA Geneticists Find

UCLA scientists have discovered that infants possessing a cell protein called Rhesus (Rh) factor that their mothers lack are twice as likely to develop schizophrenia in young adulthood. Reported in the December issue of the peer-reviewed American Journal of Human Genetics, the study suggests that the gene that codes for Rh factor is to blame for the higher risk.

"Previous studies reported a link between mothers and infants who are Rh-incompatible and a higher rate of schizophrenia in the children later in life," said Dr. Christina Palmer, a research scientist at the UCLA Neuropsychiatric Institute. "Our research is the first to take a genetic approach to examining this increased risk."

Rh factor is a protein that sits on the surface of each red blood cell. A person is Rh-positive when Rh factor is present and Rh-negative when Rh factor is not. The gene that codes for the Rh protein is called Rhesus D factor (RHD).

When a pregnant woman is Rh-negative and her fetus is Rh-positive, her immune system can attack the child's red blood cells. This deprives the brain of oxygen and can cause jaundice.

"In heavy doses, oxygen deprivation and jaundice can cause serious brain damage," said Palmer, an assistant professor-in-residence of psychiatry and biobehavioral sciences. "Even more subtle consequences may set the stage for abnormal brain development and schizophrenia down the road."

In 1970 a prophylactic injection became available for Rh-negative pregnant women whose Rh factors did not match their fetuses'. Now widely used, the drug prevents women's immune systems from destroying their babies' red blood cells.

Still, a large number of Rh-incompatible children living today were born before prophylaxis was available. The UCLA team decided to conduct the first gene-based study of whether Rh incompatibility increased these children's susceptibility to schizophrenia. Prior research on this topic had been limited to birth records.

"Many studies have shown that mothers of children who develop schizophrenia experience a higher rate of fetal distress and obstetric complications," Palmer said. "We hypothesized that stressors produced by Rh incompatibility in the prenatal environment ? such as oxygen deficiency to the brain ? could predispose a child for schizophrenia later in life."

To test their theory, the UCLA team collaborated with Dr. Leena Peltonen, UCLA professor of human genetics. She mapped out the genetic make-up of 181 Finnish families in which at least one family member had been diagnosed with schizophrenia. Except for three cases, all of the children in the sample were born before the introduction of prophylaxis in 1970.

Dr. Janet Sinsheimer, UCLA associate professor of human genetics and biomathematics, created a new statistical test to determine if maternal-fetal Rh incompatibility increased the likelihood of schizophrenia. UCLA colleagues Palmer, Sonia Minassian and J. Arthur Woodward used the test to scrutinize the chromosomal location of RHD and analyzed the gene's data from the Finnish subjects' DNA.

Palmer and her colleagues discovered that when a mother is Rh-negative and her fetus is Rh-positive, the child is more than twice as likely to develop schizophrenia than infants born from different maternal-fetal Rh combinations.

"We found evidence that the Rh-positive children of Rh-negative mothers possess more than double the risk for developing schizophrenia later in life," Palmer said. "This suggests that the RHD gene is a risk factor for this mental disorder."

"The next important step will be to look at Rh incompatibility in people born after 1970 to test whether prophylaxis has reduced their risk of schizophrenia."

A board-certified genetic counselor, Palmer emphasizes that the UCLA findings should not panic mothers who don't share Rh compatibility with their children. "A two-fold increase is no cause for alarm," she said. "Schizophrenia is a complex disorder that likely stems from a combination of several genetic and environmental factors. It is doubtful that Rh incompatibility alone causes the disorder."

She encouraged Rh-negative women to take advantage of Rh-incompatibility prophylaxis, receive good prenatal care and review their family histories for schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia is a disabling brain disease that afflicts 1 percent of the worldwide population and more than 2 million Americans. Palmer estimates that Rh incompatibility accounts for about 4 percent of these cases. People with schizophrenia may suffer from hallucinations, delusions, disordered thinking and loss of emotional affect. Medication can treat certain symptoms, but less than one in five people completely recovers from the disorder.

The National Institute of Mental Health funded the UCLA study. In addition to the UCLA team, Palmer's co-authors included Joni Turunen, Tiina Paunio and Jouko Lonnqvist.

The UCLA Neuropsychiatric Institute is an interdisciplinary research and educational institute devoted to the understanding of complex human behavior, including the genetic, biological, behavioral and sociocultural underpinnings of normal behavior, and the causes and consequences of neuropsychiatric disorders.

[wingedwolfpsion]

I'm sorry, but if it's not a .edu url, then it's not Stanford. It has no more validity than Wikipedia--probably significantly less, because authorities who spot an error on Wikipedia can simply correct it. There are no dissenting opinions in the discussions area for the article. Just because someone says they're a geneticist on the internet doesn't make it true...and even if they are, a geneticist isn't necessarily up on the cutting edge of research into a cat parasite's effects on human beings. That's epidemiology and parasitology (among other things), not genetics.

Combine that with the fact that it's the ONLY source which contradicts what I've said, and there are dozens which support it...and I have to wonder what you were thinking, honestly.

Here's a REAL supporting link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20602855
It's a .gov, not a .org.

Do you have some great attachment to the rh negative blood type that makes you not want to believe it could be detrimental in some circumstances? It's hard to believe that you're not posting from a point of bias, given the overwhelming number of sources that contradict the one you're promoting.

There's some evidence to suggest that Toxoplasma gondii increases the risk of schizophrenia as well.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3035534/
(Look, it's not a .com or .org, either, how about that).

[drakul]

[QUOTE=wingedwolfpsion;1060394398]I'm sorry, but if it's not a .edu url, then it's not Stanford. It has no more validity than Wikipedia--probably significantly less, because authorities who spot an error on Wikipedia can simply correct it. There are no dissenting opinions in the discussions area for the article. Just because someone says they're a geneticist on the internet doesn't make it true...and even if they are, a geneticist isn't necessarily up on the cutting edge of research into a cat parasite's effects on human beings. That's epidemiology and parasitology (among other things), not genetics.

Combine that with the fact that it's the ONLY source which contradicts what I've said, and there are dozens which support it...and I have to wonder what you were thinking, honestly.


The author of the article I quoted from which YOU supplied is Dr. Kameeka Kitts. She is listed as a University Research Fellow at Stanford in Genetics -

http://med.stanford.edu/profiles/Khameeka_Kitt/

Furthermore if you bother to READ I also quoted in a separate post above, extensively from another of the articles your link led too. So don't claim I cherry picked just because the findings did not concur exactly with your agenda.

Note its a Stanford Univ EDU address. Kitts' email and tel is also listed.

If you are not satisfied with that, too bad. I am not interested in wasting time with you - I used the link you supplied and now you disavow it. TYPICAL. Don't bother to respond. I won't read your post. You are obviously just interested in protecting your precious EGO. I am here to LEARN about RH negs.

[wingedwolfpsion]

Which I supplied? I supplied you with a Google search.
And an article at a .gov url, just now.
*shakes head*

Produce an article on a .edu or .gov that contradicts the one I just gave you, and I'll happily agree that obviously some folks are confused as to the actual results of the research. Otherwise, give it up.

[carlo_caci]

I'm obsessed with rhesus negative and its implications on our knowledge of evolution.

my band and david icke are buddys and we got him to do a few backing vocals on our new song which is called rhesus negative

check it out and enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NxPL8dIfKU

[wingedwolfpsion]

Rhesus factor is actually kind of boring. We know what it's for now, after all.

If you want to obsess over a blood type, pick something INTERESTING, like http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-06-14/bangalore/28296209_1_bombay-blood-group-voluntary-donors-world-blood-donor-day

The "Oh" blood group is the rarest there is.
Bombay blood group people will die if given a transfusion by any other than another type "Oh".
There are currently only 180 people in existence with this blood type.

Just goes to show you how one mutation can change everything.

[carlo_caci]

Rhesus factor is actually kind of boring. We know what it's for now, after all.

If you want to obsess over a blood type, pick something INTERESTING, like www.i-am-a-big-headed-egotistical-self-appointed music expert.com
.

Well i think its an intresting because it highlights how much of our history is a mystery. I would argue that rh- is not a boring mutation and that the evidence n research suggest otherwise.
Isnt that the point of this thread?
who is to say that rh- came after rh+? is there not lots of evidence to show that early humans may have had blonde hair and blue eyes n pale skin such as them scandanavian mumies suggest and maybey the rh positive is more poplar because it is dominant.

It cud be bull but its intresting

[wingedwolfpsion]

I'm sure that early humans did have blond hair and blue eyes, if they were living in Scandinavia. That would be really stupid down in Africa, where we initially evolved.

Light skin and hair allow more UV to penetrate, which boosts vitamin D levels. Folks with dark skin who move North are prone to rickets if they don't take supplements for vitamin D.

When you dig deeper, you find a reason for everything. If a trait became common, chances are, it offered some sort of advantage to the people in that region--a real, concrete advantage.

For instance, the sickle cell gene seems to be a horrible thing, and it's prevalent primarily in people from Africa. Why? Well, 2 copies of the gene will give you sickle cell anemia, which is likely to kill you in that environment.
...but, one copy of the gene gives you resistance to the malaria parasite. Malaria kills around 800,000 people per year, even today.

A great many strange and mysterious traits we have are simply adaptations to allow us to survive in a harsh environment, to withstand attacks by parasites, bacteria, or viruses, to digest foods that are prevalent locally but not elsewhere...etc, etc.

[carlo_caci]

I'm sure that early humans did have blond hair and blue eyes, if they were living in Scandinavia. That would be really stupid down in Africa, where we initially evolved

forgive me if I'm wrong but i thought that the caucasian mumies date back further than the ones found in africa. Which challenges the evolution theory. There is also a giant missing portion of evidence/period between modern homo sapien man and older cave man. The Rhesus - and + divide may have happened in this gap in history?

[zero_rh]

ergelak tximinoak.
erantzun duzu, eta ez ikusteko.

[carlo_caci]

who are you zero_h?

you're post translates "stupid monkeys. you can respond to, but do not see". what do you mean by that?

did you register just to say that?

[carlo_caci]

ergelak tximinoak.
erantzun duzu, eta ez ikusteko.


that language you speak is basque which is a clue.

Basques people have the highest proportions of rh-. are you refering to us the forum users as stupid monkeys or primitive man as stupid monkeys?

[drakul]

@carlo caci - Are you Basque?

[carlo_caci]

no I was born in england (sicilian parents). I just used google translate :). i wonder if mr Zero_rh is a basque or did he just use google translate him self.

strange.

Anyway, i hear that one trait of being rh- is being inquisitive, the urge to ask why? :confused:

[drakul]

Still, you are very quick. I assumed zero rh message was some kind of nonsense because I've never seen sentence structure/spelling like that. :D However Basque is unlike any other European language, so makes sense now.

As for Basques having the highest percentage of RH negs in Europe - that is definitely true of WESTERN Europe but the jury is still out on EASTERN EUROPE. I have yet to see any RH statistics on Southeastern Europe particularly the Balkans.

As for RH negs being inquisitive - that is one of those leading psychological questions/traits that anyone might think was true of themselves.

This thread does bring out some interesting physical traits though, which are easier to track and more concrete, such as slower respiration and low body temperature - many RH negs have mentioned this here. Also good health and resistance to disease.

Are you RH neg.?

[carlo_caci]

I do
n't know my bloodtype sorry.

[wingedwolfpsion]

I don't know what the dating was on the Scandinavian mummies you're mentioning. I do know that Homo sapiens' evolution was earlier than was originally thought a decade or so ago.

However, it's still substantially later than the evolution of Homo neanderthalus, and there are no missing links. The direct ancestor of Homo sapiens is Homo heidelbergensis. It's also the direct ancestor of Homo neanderthalus, we both evolved from that same ancestor.

It doesn't really matter exactly when Homo sapiens evolved, or even exactly when they migrated up into Europe. The principle remains exactly the same. Homo sapiens migrated into Europe and had to adapt to the Northern climate in order to survive there--so, those who had a paler skin tone had better health, and thus more kids, than those who didn't.

Homo neanderthalus most likely also had pale skin, as it was well-adapted to the Northern climates.
We do trace the earliest signs of H. sapiens back into Africa, but H. heidelbergensis also radiated into Europe prior to the rise of H. sapiens, so Europe seems to be a popular destination for homonids, lol.

The oldest H. sapiens fossils found so far were 195,000 years old. They were found in Ethiopia.
H. sapiens actually showed up in Australia and Asia before there are any signs of them in Europe. One can speculate that perhaps they didn't care to compete with H. neanderthalus, at least not at first.

By the way, the progression from H. heidelbergensis to H. sapiens was not an abrupt one. We do have the intermediate fossils, and the first fossils that we call H. sapiens were not the same form that modern humans take. Early H. sapiens, called archaic humans, were more robust than we are. Skulls between 195,000 and 120,000 years old have a transitional nature, becoming increasingly more rounded and higher-domed, showing developing features that are more distinctive of our species.

Whether humans then migrated out of Africa to populate other areas all at once, or there was enough traffic to spread their genes and cause them to evolve in other locations more or less simultaneously becomes moot...around 60,000 or so years ago.
This is the point where all subspecies of humans, and all other species of homonids (that we know of, apart from H. neanderthalus) died. The super volcano Toba erupted. This is a disaster of almost inconceivable proportions, and it decimated the climate decades...perhaps even hundreds of years.
Homo sapiens was reduced to a mere 5000 to 15,000 individuals, the brink of extinction. Evidence suggests these individuals were living in Africa...the birthplace of the homonid line. So, whether there were humans elsewhere before that...matters not at all, to us. We are the descendents of those African survivors. Our mitochondria do not lie.

In fact, they say that the oldest living human phenotype are the San people--the African bushmen made famous in the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy". Can you think of a people you'd be more proud to call your ancestors? Tough as nails, astonishingly atheletic, fair of culture, and remarkably sane...that's how the San could best be described. They may be short, but they are an example of humanity at its most pure and least corrupt. (Not to say they have no failings--of course, they have all of them, but they don't revel in them the way so many other cultures seem to).

Unfortunately, outsiders are destroying them as well--driving them off their lands and forcing them to settle and assimilate. It is truly a tragedy.

If there were fair-skinned H. sapiens in Scandinavia a hundred thousand years ago or more, it doesn't matter. They died. We re-evolved fair skin when we migrated back out of Africa after the effects of Toba subsided.

[carlo_caci]

Thanks for the info. The part about the volcano i have never head before. I find it hard to imagine our skin and eye and other genitics changing to adapt again in that peripd but it makes sence.
iSo where in your opinion does rh- happen in history?

[wingedwolfpsion]

Well, unfortunately, fossils don't tell us the story of blood types, but there are some very good theories.

First, this could simply have been a random mutation. It's only a single protein. Mutations often involve the loss of a trait (such as the loss or damage of the gene for melanin producing an albino).
In Europe, where there are cats but humans rarely come into contact with them, the rh- negative gene may not have been as serious a flaw as it would be in Africa, where cats are more common and numerous. If it offered some benefits to the immune system, it may well have proliferated for that reason.

Another possibility is that Homo neanderthalus had rh- blood. Why not? It evolved in the Northern climates of Europe, not in Africa, so it was living in the same 'low-cat' environment, only for much, much longer than our species did. We may have acquired the rh- genes through hybridization with Homo neanderthalus, when we spread into Europe the second time. Homo neanderthalus survived Toba, and is believed to have gone extinct just 28,000 years ago. H. neanderthalus was always our very close cousin, so it would be silly to think we couldn't hybridize with them. Their species had a longer run than ours has so far--by about 70,000 years. They evolved from heidelbergensis, in Europe, around 350,000 years ago, after H. heidelbergensis, and another species, H. Homo rhodesiensis, migrated up into Europe. They hybridized, and evolved into H. neanderthalus, separate from the African H. heidelbergensis population.

They evolved from heidelbergensis before we did. H. heidelbergensis evolved into our species, in Africa, probably around 200,000 years ago.
(Some believe that the intermediate stages, H. rhodesiensis and Homo sapiens idaltu, were our predecessors after H. heidelbergensis, but it may be nit-picking--the direct lineage is there, regardless of species assignations).
Apparently, at that time, there were no other isolated populations of 'pure heidelbergensis stock', so only we and the neanderthals remained.
Homonids are rather precocious when it comes to spreading their genes, and evidence of hybridization is rampant among homonid lines. (Hybridization is just another part of nature's tool kit for evolution).

Rh negative is most likely just a simple mutation that proliferated since it offered some survival benefits (at least, when it doesn't mix with rh +, it does) in an environment where toxoplasma is rare. People do attach a lot of significance to it, but there's really no reason to.

It's not really any different from any other unusual and rare blood type--a mutation occurred, and was passed on. Through luck or natural selection, it became locally dominant, and spread outward from there.

We can infer that rh + was the prevalent human blood type at the end of the bottleneck, and rh - must have occurred or been introduced (through hybridization) after that. The majority of people in the world are rh +, including the Australian aboriginals. There were no cats in Australia. (There is a big feral domestic cat problem there, now, but humans did not bring them there until the British began to settle).

There would be NO selective pressure to develop rh positive blood in Australia, so the people who traveled there and became the aboriginals must have already all had rh positive blood.

We KNOW now that not only did we interbreed with the neanderthals, we did keep some of their DNA sequences.
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/3440/neandertals-and-humans-interbred-geneticists
(Neanderthalus, by the way, had a significantly larger brain than H. sapiens, but did not have our huge prefrontal lobes, which make us so creative. Not that our technology was all that impressive at the time, either).

So, whether you think it was a mutation, or simply the prevalent blood type of H. neanderthalus, rh - is still not all that mysterious.

As for skin, hair, and eye color...those can change in just a few generations, they're really no big deal. Look how many colors the domestic dog comes in.

[lightgiver]

Dale: Really? Yeah, the back of it; another thing is you talked about the people with fair skin that thanked god that they had fair skin and dark hair and then there were the blonde and red-haired and a big subject on the net now is the RH Negative and I've traced it and all the people that separate themselves from others, the Basques, the Berbers, the Amish in the United States, they were 25% RH negative, which if you know anything about the recessive nature of RH Negative blood, there shouldn't be any anymore, because if people truly bred freely, being the recessive nature, there wouldn't be any more, so they realised and that's why I believe they keep all the genetic records going all the way back.

Alan: It's incredible isn't it? When you realise they've taking the samples for years, not telling the public, and even at the Human Genome Project, was on the go for so long before we'd even heard the term, so they understood what they were looking for and, even yet, they've never disclosed to the public exactly what they were looking for.

Dale: Yeah, and the Mormons have all these people that are building Ziggurat-shaped monuments and everything that have you know one man will have 24 wives and I'm sure that if you got into their background. But, I've been researching a lot of this stuff that you usually find that these people are RH Negative and they're trying to maintain that blood line. They're also implicated in all kinds of sex crimes against children and, you know, marry their cousins, nieces and everything. But, another fascinating aspect is people that claim that they've been visited by aliens are RH Negative and women have written in to these blogs saying that my mother is A negative, my father is B Positive and I have AB Negative blood but the doctor tells me that's entirely possible, that my father is my father! Do you know anything about blood types, like, ‘OK honey: who are you going to believe, me, or your lying eyes? you know. And I believe that's part of the mind control programmes that they use, you find that the highest level military officers and political figures and everything are using military bases to sexually abuse children and everything and I think its part of breeding programmes.

Alan: I'll tell you where the main breeding programmes were. They were done under the guise of Christian communities, in the 1800s, and it was a perfect cover, no one would come in and touch them or even think about it. Because, if you look at the Oneida Community in New York, which has been documented, although they burned a lot of the records in the 1940s, and H.G Wells even came over and visited them and they were in touch with different luminaries of that period, across the world. They were a breeding programme where they actually introduced the children into active sexual participation, at a very early age. They were not allowed to marry but the elders decided who could procreate with whom, for offspring, and they did keep incredible records of this. It was the most extensive breeding programme, well-protected too, by very rich people, in New York State, from the top, to even get away with that, in that era; and when you go into what they were up to, it's astonishing really that they managed to get away with so much. They were heavily protected from the top of the State, to do that.

Dale: Another thing that struck me is that people that are minorities and are persecuted and these people really aren't much persecuted because they keep themselves out of the spotlight and their practices out of the spotlight, but they claim that they're more intelligent, that they have higher IQs, you know, but what they really have is a very difficult time breeding because you know if they combine RH Positive and Negative, and a person can be half and half, if you know how both the negative and the positive antigens, you know, in their genetic code.

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.net/transcripts/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_256_No_Steps_Forward__All _Steps_Back_Feb132009.html

Alan: They're also so far ahead of this; and the key is too, and I'm certain of this, they were into genetic alterations, literally, long before Watson came along, with his double helix and all the rest of it. I'm pretty certain of that, and so even those problems they got ironed out, through science. They were definitely studying genes, as I say, from records, such as from the top mathematicians in the 1920s, who were working on projects to do with genes. Now you wouldn't need a mathematician like Rutherford unless you actually could see the genes and - supposedly - they weren't discovered till much later. However, his own autobiography says that he worked on a project where it was to do with the genes. So, I think they were into this a long time ago, so any problems that they've had within breeding have been overcome and who knows how long they've been into artificial insemination and the altering of the sperm. I don't know if people know this, but even Victor Rothschild I mentioned earlier, his main project at University, when he was at Cambridge was on spermatozoa and that's what you want to alter, if you want to alter certain traits in the offspring. They're all into the same things you know.

Dale: They're so into breeding, breeding animals, breeding humans.

Alan: If you go back to Plato, and you go back into Plato's Republic, and he talks about the standard way to breed them was like domesticated animals, until you get the perfect pair, which you just keep inbreeding from then on. This has been an agenda for an awful long time and we also know too, that, from the Project Paperclip, where they brought so many Nazi scientists in from Germany to Britain and the US, a lot of those guys, I think were interbred as well; and their offspring as well. Some of their offspring went to special schools, just for them.

Scroll down on link. http://freeaudionetwork.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/february-alan-watt-2/

[lightgiver]

I am B-neg

Pharaoh Ramses II Type B-Neg...Queen Elizabeth Type O-Neg

[lightgiver]

It's surprising to learn that the highest level of Rh- in any region of the world is in the Karaites people of Iraq with 53 per cent of the Rh-negative Cde complex. 50% of the Basque population is Rh-negative. The next highest levels are in Wales and Scotland. The Karaites are actually a Jewish sect that rarely inter marry outside their own blood lines.

If the Kara-ite Sect of Judaism was based on the Babylonian scriptures at about 450 BC..it coincides with the conquest of Jerusalem and the "renditing" of its population back to Babylon in 597 BC.

When the Babylonian "renditees" reached Babylon, they found another Group of Jews who were the descendants of the Jews that Syria expelled in 721BC when Assyria conquered the tribes of Northern Israel. Thus the Jewish connections with Iraq/Babylon are ancient.

The first question that comes to my mind is whether Rh-Negative Blood line is the original and most pure "strain" of "jewish" blood line...nearly unchanged in Basra since about 800 B C

Blue color in a true Blue-Blood that is alleged to be a"Royal Blood" line is an excess of "copper". Blue and (Silver-which is a form of blue) have been the standard "colors" of Jewish identity on family crests and knightly arms in Europe for nearly 1,200 years.

http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27809

[lightgiver]

RHESUS NEGS constitutes less than 7% of the world´s population.(type 'O' neg) is the purest blood known to mankind...

The highest concentration of RH negative blood occurs in the Basque people of Northern Spain and Southern France, and in the Eastern/Oriental Jews. Only 15% of the entire world´s population is known to have the RH negative blood factor. While it is known that RH negative blood - (type 'O') is the purest blood known to mankind, it is not known from where the negative factor originates, as it is generally theorized by evolutionists that there is an unbroken bloodline from early human prototypes (pre-humans) to present day human beings.

http://think-aboutit.com/health/DISCUSSIONOFBLOODGROUPSANDTHHUMANSPECIES.htm

[lightgiver]

The cloning through use of "Adam's rib" was the first genetic engineering on humans...

"Let us make man..."

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5792/ningishzida01.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/ningishzida01.jpg/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3JpozIfWIY&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/g3JpozIfWIY

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/1341/48520934v1480x480frontc.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/48520934v1480x480frontc.jpg/)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_Eve

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=180131&page=19

[carlo_caci]

RHESUS NEGS constitutes less than 7% of the world´s population....

..... Only 15% of the entire world´s population is known to have the RH negative blood factor

Are you typing out of your ass?

[lightgiver]

Are you typing out of your ass?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7VAfBhxqps&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/u7VAfBhxqps

[lightgiver]

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3395/catpeopletiltcomp.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/catpeopletiltcomp.jpg/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAagFKdsSNs&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/dAagFKdsSNs

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5005/williamblakethetemptati.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/williamblakethetemptati.jpg/)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_the_knowledge_of_good_and_evil

[drakul]

What is all this stuff you are posting about `cat people'?

What does it have to do with RH neg? :confused:

[wake_up]

Omg, I want to be a cat person!!! Meowww....:)

[seaker]

Interesting thread.

I myself am of the RH negative O type and i always found it fascinating that i can give blood to anyone but i can only receive my own type

[drakul]

Interesting thread.

I myself am of the RH negative O type and i always found it fascinating that i can give blood to anyone but i can only receive my own type

Can you receive blood from any RH neg or does it have to be RH neg O?

[seaker]

Can you receive blood from any RH neg or does it have to be RH neg O?

I haven't had to receive any yet but from what I've been told it has to be RH neg O.

I'm happy to be corrected though if I'm wrong.

[drakul]

I haven't had to receive any yet but from what I've been told it has to be RH neg O.

I'm happy to be corrected though if I'm wrong.

I think you are probably right.

[gabriell]

Interesting thread.

I myself am of the RH negative O type and i always found it fascinating that i can give blood to anyone but i can only receive my own type
if I agreed with donating blood I'd think it was a tad unfair..