George Kavassilas and message from GFL

[measle_weasel]

I just watched this video, and wanted to get others opinions on it and the material contained within.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=223340487918013901&ei=GAN4SeXeN4SQqAK0yqGnBQ&q=galactic+federation

I had a few thoughts of my own on some specific points made during the video. In no particular order:


George Kavassilas claims to be a sirian. This was the first thing that got my attention. While I believe there may be souls here on Earth who originate from other places within the universe, I find it suspicious that he uses this "fact" about himself to convey authority on the subject, to the audience he is speaking to. If the message was powerful in and of itself, his "credentials", so to speak, should not be needed to convince others of the validity of the message.


He speaks of a hierarchy of sorts, topping out with the "council of nine", who I believe he said were nine aspects of the same god (in this case, thoth/lucifer. More on that later). I thought hierarchy was supposed to be a function of spiritual beings who were not yet well developed, and still needed a chain of command. Or, hierarchy was just a system to control free beings, and make those under its control to think others have power over them. Maybe I am not hearing him correctly, but this seems to at odds with what most other "new age" philosophy is all about.


The "returning to source" he speaks of, losing your identity, conscienceness, and existence; essentially he is glorifying soul suicide by saying that very few beings choose to do it, and those that do, are the very most spiritually evolved beings, and such a thing is something to strive for. To me, this is not only antithetical, but it sounds very much like "selling your soul". It is also illogical. Why would an infinite source (The Creator, God, Isness, Infinite Love, Spaghetti Monster, etc) desire the resources of a finite source (Something that was created, you or me, a rock, etc), unless that infinite source had malicious intent? By definition, something that is infinite, does not lack, and has no need of extra resources. Any extra added onto the infinite source would be unneeded, and could only be used to satisfy greed, which is the root of all evil.

Also, why would a creator allow a creature to destroy itself, when the whole purpose of creating that creature, I believe, was for it to experience unlimited joy, would be defeated if the creature were to suicide? My personal beliefs would say that such a thing would not be allowed, even though it might seem to go against free will. If you were a parent, and you had a child (who you created with your mate), if your child wanted to, would you allow them to shoot themselves with a gun? Of course not, because you know more about whats right for that child, than they do for themselves, and are acting benevolently when you disallow them to harm themselves. I think The Creator would have the same feelings for Her/His/Its creatures.


Kavassilas says that Thoth created the universe we are living in right now, and that Thoth is also the same entity that Lucifer is. So, Lucifer is now in this day, walking on the planet once more, after coming from beyond the bounds of our (his) universe. This sounds like a thinly veiled statement saying the Anti-Christ is here.


Another interesting point about this I thought, was that Lucifer and St Michael were on opposite sides of the dualities of our universe, one being knowledge, commanded by Lucifer, and the other being conditional love, commanded by St Michael. I dont recall hearing why the love is conditional, and dont remember him speaking about an entity with UNconditional love. I found this interesting, because to me, George Kavassilas seemed to subtly portray the left side as being neutral, and the right side as with-holding and stingy. Left-hand / Right-hand path symbolism comes to mind as well.


George mentions very quickly towards the end, that he is the son of a freemason, and glorifies the freemasons as being almost completely wonderful people, except for a tiny few. When I heard this, it was just another dot connected, so to speak, and was quite telling I think, as to the origin and nature of the underlying tone of this lecture.


The Bush and Hitler comments... those made me lift an eyelid. I cant think of many people who would consider those two as being the good guys, so to speak. Of course, if you are on the opposite side of love, I guess you might consider them both to be helping the cause.


The history of the universe, and even before this universe, that this guy seems to speak of as being the truth, would make me question anything this person said prior, even if I agreed with all of it.


The Aliens that are supposedly hovering around all of us... why are they just talking to a very select few people, and trying to get these people who by most, are considered nut jobs, to "get the word out"? Why wouldnt the aliens, with their vastly superior technology and spiritual advancement, simply show themselves to all people on the Earth, state the facts, and let the public decide what it wants to do, with its planet, and not cater to the "leaders" of Earth, who are obviously not elected by the public? This makes me question the entire idea of aliens hanging around Earth, waiting for our, the publics, premission, to come in and save us. Not that I actually seriously entertained the idea to begin with....


Finally, I also found George to be fidgety, and seemingly unsure of himself when he spoke for most of the time. This does not suggest to me that he is speaking the truth. When he spoke of how things definitely were, and made it known that he knows the real truth, I thought of the adage, be wary of those who say they know what the truth is. Their usually trying to sell you something :)


Quite frankly, it all sounds alot like dogma to me. Reminds me of a Luciferian-esque religion, to many hidden references, one that is seemingly good, but not so great when you read the fine print. Could this belief system be similar to what the planned NWR might be like?

What are others thoughts on this video?

[measle_weasel]

Anyone watched this video?

[venividivici2311]

I am gonna watch it now!

[lhaull]

Is this the stuff from 2004?
If so, self admittedly, he was being decieved back then.
I am still watching the 'Our Journey & The Grand Deception video' on youtube, and there is alot of stuff in here which resonates with me but I'm making no claims.
He goes in to some real detail about what he was saying before and how he knows now he had been decieved and that the info was wrong.
Its not so much a feel good thing in this latest stuff as it is more work for us and I know most of us are tired of the struggle but it does resonate this far.
And the thought that angelic beings are going to 'save us' with their UFO's and wide smiles, really fucking pisses me off, I wouldn't accept thier help because of the smiling alone.
If the galactic fed is real and are supposed to be our saviours then they should have been here before all this shit went down not right at the end to step in and be the salvation of mankind, bollocks.
0 Marks for those bastards for originality, its like a bad tv movie if you ask me.
I smell a rat, sounds like a firesale.
I am quickly coming to the real realization that we are going to be tested right up till the end, and only each one of us, has the ability to save (if thats the right word) ourselves.
Flying off into heaven with golden haired saviours, aint for me.
I'll stay with ME (Mother Earth).

[STARWALKER]

Nobody is coming to save us. :)
It is not the task of any et:s, extra-dimensionals, fairies or
whatever to save us.
That is our "job".

Me thinks "they" will only show up after most of the dust
have settled.
Does not matter. :)
Besides, no one is forcing you to "buy" anything.
As Icke says: It is a choice.

I agree on most points about George Kavassilas tho.
Takes some courage to admit one is wrong.

[cruise4]

I haven't watched this one yet, but one of the most interesting things I got from his latest vids is the idea of a false set of higher dimensions. That's a doozy!

[lhaull]

I haven't watched this one yet, but one of the most interesting things I got from his latest vids is the idea of a false set of higher dimensions. That's a doozy!

Song within a song, melody within a melody.

[tjohn]

Anyone watched this video?I watch 5 minutes of it before I got bored with his nonsense.

[mrindigo]

I watched a good amount of the video, but not the whole thing. There was one part in particular which caught my ear.

"We've done this on millions of planets over, we know what we're doing."

He was referring to updating civilizations with their technologies. There is one problem with that statement I thought. If they've done that millions of times over, then why are they struggling with the leaders here? Surely they would know how to get around that with that much experience. That's just one of the little bits that don't add up.

[cruise4]

Whether you belive this stuff or not, that is a very good question. Why is anyone struggling with the leaders here? Something doesn't add up and I mean overall, not just with this stuff.

[measle_weasel]

Whether you belive this stuff or not, that is a very good question. Why is anyone struggling with the leaders here? Something doesn't add up and I mean overall, not just with this stuff.

Indeed. What kind of actual resistance could our "leaders" actually pose against an intergalactic federation of races with technology that would be beyond our understanding? And surely, such an advanced set of aliens would be able to deduce that our "leaders" are not really anything more than tyrants, and that they do not represent the public in any meaningful capacity.

[mrindigo]

Indeed. What kind of actual resistance could our "leaders" actually pose against an intergalactic federation of races with technology that would be beyond our understanding? And surely, such an advanced set of aliens would be able to deduce that our "leaders" are not really anything more than tyrants, and that they do not represent the public in any meaningful capacity.

My thoughts exactly.

[romas]

Hence why they don't land and deal with "authority" on this planet maybe?

[mikethepunk]

The GFL and sections of the ashtar command have been co-opted and infiltrated by negative aliens which is exactly what this guy is channeling, the group that is rogue and infiltrated the GFL. Esp. since he is a freemason!!!!!

They arent as bad as the greys or reps, but working towards their goal nonetheless. Beware of the GFL and unfortunately some members of the Asthar command. They are hear to trick us.

Which is a shame because not all of the GFL has been infiltrated. The channel that is channeling is pretty much how you can tell what sub-group it is.

This one is obvious.

[fekdemasons]

Galactic federation of Light ! Ashtar Command !

How utterly corny.

United federation of planets , sounds like fucking star trek.

When they have their AGM on Lexus 9 or whatever planet. Are they sitting there inter mingling with different species ? Is there a guy with a head like a mutated elephant sitting next to a woman with a spotty owl like face and three breasts ??

THe band in the corner a collection of ET races from the star wars bar ???

FFS , its science fiction.

Real ETs , I have no doubt are out there. But not this crap.

Blow it out your ass !!!!

[nocturne of shadow]

Galactic federation of Light ! Ashtar Command !

How utterly corny.

United federation of planets , sounds like fucking star trek.

When they have their AGM on Lexus 9 or whatever planet. Are they sitting there inter mingling with different species ? Is there a guy with a head like a mutated elephant sitting next to a woman with a spotty owl like face and three breasts ??

THe band in the corner a collection of ET races from the star wars bar ???

FFS , its science fiction.

Real ETs , I have no doubt are out there. But not this crap.

Blow it out your ass !!!!

i know what you mean but have you not read/watched anything about this stuff of course it looks unreal or fake and funny, but that's the point and the way were taught to treat such things. oh and one more thing it would be awesome if those music aliens were real, also i would want some Twi'lek action
... so hawt :) lol

[fekdemasons]

i know what you mean but have you not read/watched anything about this stuff of course it looks unreal or fake and funny, but that's the point and the way were taught to treat such things. oh and one more thing it would be awesome if those music aliens were real, also i would want so Twi'lek action
... so hawt :) lol

I have read this stuff on the GLF before out of interest. It is just rehashed bullshit by sombody who dropped two much acid in the 60s.

I'll make something up for you myself , here goes ,,,,,,


"Good evening people of this realm in 3d density known as .....earth . We speak to you at a time of grave urgency in this galactic plane etc etc etc.

You cannott know how deeply we love you , so much so that we feel we must intercede at this the third orbit of the solar wind cycle.

Our supreme commander " Dave " is deeply concerned about events on this planet and has decided upon a course of action so bold and outright decisive as to send a shudder throughout the galaxy.

He is personally to send loving thoughts to your leaders in an attempt to make them stop behaving like insane psychotic criminals. "

" YOu may not notice any distinct change in the cosmin blue ray energy alliance but be assured it is underway ""


PLEASE IMMEDIATELY CONTRIBUTE TO OUR WEBSITE SO THAT WE MAY CONTINUE THIS FINE WORK.

AS YOU KNOW OUR TECHNOLOGY IS SO SUPERIOR THAT WE REQUIRE EARTHLY MONETARY TRANSACTIONS IN ORDER WE MIGHT INTERFACE WITH YOUR INTERWEB THINGY JIG ""


Whats that smell man ? wait , its cow ..... nahh its sheep ........

noooooooooo its BULLSHIT !!!!!

[measle_weasel]

Hence why they don't land and deal with "authority" on this planet maybe?

A very good question! :)

[cruise4]

Any UFO will almost certainly come from here or our solar system. Aliens are a different matter. If you want to see an interstellar craft I'm fairly convinced the Moon is the only likely candidate. That's what it would take and where did they go?

[cruise4]

How about the Moon originally being around Mars? Prior to that, elsewhere? There's an idea that could explain a lot.

Anyone remember the last books Arthur C. Clarke was involved with? Time's Eye and Sunstorm. Strange out of place books in many ways. One of the concepts was the swinging of an asteroid around a planetary body to propel it as an interstellar weapon. There were also references to history as exhibits in artificially maintained environments. Only now do they make sense to me.

[cruise4]

As an invader one of the first things you might do after traumatising, stone ageing and genetically manipulating the indigious people, is suppress the Global Grid, like maybe Pyramids?

How do the structures perhaps on Mars relate to the Martian Grid?

Maybe a splash of symbolism to keep everyone going around in circles? Plus just the job for external 'God' control purposes.

Very handy having a nearby 'spare'. Especially if you rape the place to the point of Destruction. Keep a few slaves and move on.

Someone nicked your drive crystals by any chance reppies or whoever you are?

Maybe you aren't going anywhere this time, because YOU can't and your artificial 'King' environment is about to be dismantled. Oh dear!

[kingmob]

I woudn't listen to this if I were you guys. This is a lecture from 2004, and he said it himself he was heavily diverted and manipulated.

Listen to his June 2009 lecture.

[cruise4]

I haven't. Still thanks for the warning, God forbid I might have been entertained.

[measle_weasel]

I woudn't listen to this if I were you guys. This is a lecture from 2004, and he said it himself he was heavily diverted and manipulated.

Listen to his June 2009 lecture.

I dont really notice much difference in his two lectures, aside from the fantastical structure of reality that he poses in both, and the brotherhoods I think... minor things really, as neither is provable, and must be accepted on faith.

[romas]

He couldn't even get the earths age right, while listening to him I've actually started to think about other "existential" stuff, it's entertaining fantasy that's about it imho.

[cruise4]

What do you guys make of those 'ufo things' on the moon? I had a horrible thought about 'wraiths' and Stargate Atlantis:D Perhaps the moon WAS a life seeding factory and they are some of the specimens coming to fruition after centuries... I mean I don't know but it's all bloody interesting to speculate on! The odd snippet of information comes from the most unlikely sources sometimes.

[romas]

If you have to travel space "physically" and you have required energy for propulsion, flying inside a planet makes perfect sense to me, because in speeds required to traverse any significant distance a peanut sized object would make collosal problems for the type of craft we can imagine right now.

[cruise4]

I've also realised 'they' have got a way off still... Europa, hence the blowing up Saturn thing. They MUST be stopped :D Wouldn't bide well for us that. Cosmic vandals are the enemy!

[azureangel]

I woudn't listen to this if I were you guys. This is a lecture from 2004, and he said it himself he was heavily diverted and manipulated.

Listen to his June 2009 lecture.

AGREED! I did that and then watched the 2004. (I would suggest you do the same in that same order). Very different. What stood out to me was his celebration of the Earth, Mary, the Divine feminine. And he clearly said for us all to follow our own intuition. I learned a long time ago, the brain is just another organ. Truth is found in the 4th chakra (heart) and in the 3rd chakra ("gut"). No, no one is coming to "save us". Did y'all miss the part about walking through the portals??? This is very good stuff. No lecture or piece of info will resonate completely with anyone. But this brings together a lot of stuff I've been learning for 30 years. Give George a break. Oh and did you check his website? He is selling NOTHING. All his info is free.

[kingmob]

AGREED! I did that and then watched the 2004. (I would suggest you do the same in that same order). Very different. What stood out to me was his celebration of the Earth, Mary, the Divine feminine. And he clearly said for us all to follow our own intuition. I learned a long time ago, the brain is just another organ. Truth is found in the 4th chakra (heart) and in the 3rd chakra ("gut"). No, no one is coming to "save us". Did y'all miss the part about walking through the portals??? This is very good stuff. No lecture or piece of info will resonate completely with anyone. But this brings together a lot of stuff I've been learning for 30 years. Give George a break. Oh and did you check his website? He is selling NOTHING. All his info is free.

Yea, good post.

Brain is your ego, which is preventing most people from communicating with the real you, that has a connection to the beyond of the mind prison(I'm no exception).

And good point about his non-commercialism.

[engelsblume]

I just watched this and have one question. He clearly says we have no free will so why does he keep saying raise your awareness and organize yourselves. If we have no free will then how can we decide to organize ourselves or anything? Weird man. :confused:

[gregvance]

I have to say that I'd never heard of George Kavassilas till I heard his brilliant interview on Red Ice Radio. (www.redicecreations.com - radio archive if you want to listen.), one of the best things I've ever heard.

You can spend a lifetime debating whether this person or that is 'one of them', now, I just go on my intuition. And my intuition when I listen to that guy tells me he's telling the truth. Not everyone that has a different angle on what's going on to David Icke is 'one of them'. In fact, Kavassilas confirms a lot of what Icke talks about in the Red Ice interview, including about the moon, but goes much further about the bigger picture, but when I heard it, it just felt right, that's all I can say about it. Brilliant guy, someone to listen to and then as usual, decide for yourself.

The fact that his father is a Freemason means nothing. So what? Millions of people's fathers are Freemasons, does that mean they are too? No. I've met some Freemasons and they're some of the nicest people I've ever met, and probably most of them aren't involved in the manipulation. Even David Icke says this.

Why don't the aliens ask Earth people what they want to do? People on Earth at this time are of a primitive mentality. We can't even get on with each other in our own cities and towns without ostracising anyone and everyone that's different to us, let alone how we would treat aliens. We are an extremely uncivilised race. All this pompous intellectual arrogance we have especially in the 'West' is just a joke. Apparently in the more open minded places like South America, UFOs openly appear all the time because the people there act more from the heart, just what I've heard.. but they're everywhere. I saw a fleet of them over London in broad daylight in 2002..

[sarius]

My intuition tells me this guy has 'freestyled' his whole overview. Hey I'm happy to be wrong but all I hear from him is vague assertions trying to combine every thread of new age whatever....

When I keep hearing the words 'spiritual', 'divine feminine', 'personal experience', 'mother earth'... without any intricate detail, well it's a worry.

[kingmob]

Time to expose him:

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=161674

[leviathanstaar]

GFOL 1992: We are here with ships about to decloak so our ascended "masters" with completely human aristocratic titles can save you from the tyrranical elite ectectectect our presence is imminent now listen to this slow talking guy tell you to wtach gold rings of light and repeat feel good catcphrases

*every year in between insert above*

GFOL 2011: We are here with ships about to decloak so our ascended "masters" with completely human aristocratic titles can save you from the tyrranical elite ectectectect our presence is imminent now listen to this slow talking guy tell you to watch gold rings of light and repeat feel good catcphrases

GFOL ought to be a litmuss (sp?) test about ufo/esoteric material

[blackstar76]

Blaming the GFL has been used many times by contactees who make false claims and predictions that failed to happen. A way of clearing the air and being able to continue their " careers ".

I am sure if 2013 comes without major events. They will all claim interferance by the GLF. Blame them so they can change the date and continue to sell books and tours.

[17764u]

I don't believe he is the only one out there with different views from the norms but he has the balls to come out and speak his truth. I wish there was more spiritual people like him that was coming out. I'm very happy that George came out and now I have another perspective to drawl from, I feel good listening to him.
truth knowledge and love is needed, michael

[blackstar76]

I don't believe he is the only one out there with different views from the norms but he has the balls to come out and speak his truth. I wish there was more spiritual people like him that was coming out. I'm very happy that George came out and now I have another perspective to drawl from, I feel good listening to him.
truth knowledge and love is needed, michael

Speak his truth or sell his lies? There are a ton of people out there now selling the same info. The exact stuff. Telling people what they want to hear and then asking them if anything resonates with them. Offcourse it resonates silly. It's what they want to hear.

They trick people with catch phrases. Ie Remember who you are, Be love and light, Manifest your destiny. Blah blah blah. It's all lies. Tours, books and DVDS sales is what it is all about.

I am so sick of these new age bullshiters. I went in with an open mind and came out more disgusted with humans than ever before. People preying on the desperate for cash and fame.

Just came across another " LIGHT WORKER " selling the same shit. 650 bucks for a 2 hour session. Then 280 bucks for each other session. 8 sessions needed. What a scam and a joke.

I say in 2013 we linch everyone of them. The only thing worst than no hope is false hope. Spread from the mouth of a liar who wants nothing more than whats you got in your back pocket.

[manxboz]

GFL is a big pile of crap. There is no evidence for it what so ever, yet people see twinkles in the sky and automatically scream 'GFL'. They fail to look into its history, which by the way is not so old as they claim.

Their poster Boy, Ashtar changes his background every week currently. One minute being Jesus but in his new form, other weeks being an ancient alien who helped jeebus, and a whole host of other things.

They get caught out and then the GFL dies for a few months, only to come back with more outrageous claims.

They are a Con and after 2012 they will die, only to return in 2013 with more Crap.

Remember Goodchild anyone??? Still claims (and accepted by the main group) to be in contact with the GFL.