Depression

[carlg1212]

I've suffered through some periods of heavy depression in my life, even as a child (due to abusive, alcoholic, asshole parents).

I've noticed lately that a lot more people are depressed, probably because of the shit in the food, water and air. Tell the 'normal' people that, and they look at me like I have 5 heads (while the planes fly over spraying chemtrails...some people can't see past their noses). Has anyone else noticed a lot more people claiming they're depressed? Big Pharma is right there to tell you "Just take this pill and you'll be fine".

I've also noticed a lot more people wanting to be alone and not hang out in groups. It's just my observation but wanted to know if anyone else has noticed this.

Anyway, I've gone to therapy and my conversations are something like this:

CARL: I feel like shit sometimes.
THERAPIST: Aha! You're not happy because you're not happy. Therefore, to be happy, you must be happy. That'll be $50, please.

I've read many books and tried to get into different philosophies, but was completely distrustful of any 'leader' when I realized the Dahli Lama is pro-NWO.


http://www.dalailama.com/page.63.htm
I would like to propose that regional communities like the European Community be established as an integral part of the more peaceful world we are trying to create. Looking at the post Cold War environment objectively, such communities are plainly the most natural and desirable components of a new world order.


I might be reading this out of context but to me, I've distrustful of any so-called 'leader'.

Anyway, can anyone give me some advice to make it through this screwed-up life with at least some shread of happiness while still battling the NWO? Does anyone else feel this way? I feel like when I'm in public and people ask "What do you think?" about the world and politics and other manufactured bullshit that they are so turned-off by my answers, that now I just say "You really don't want to know what I think". It would be nice to hang out with like minded people but I joined the German club in Baltimore (because that's part of my ancestry and I actually just wanted to learn how to cook real German food) and found it was heavily infiltrated by the Feds.

[indigo]

I had severe depression (post natal depression) It turned me a bit insane, almost psychosis. I was seeing stuff. Now I wonder if this was depression seeing things or just me seeing stuff as I had in the past. Anyway I went to my Brilliant doctor, who told me I was a coper and I could cope with anything life threw at me because i was strong. (I didn't feel that way at the time though) I was a bit pissed off that i wasn't given medication, but on the whole, this doctor was right. My depression ceased in a few months without drugs.

I think doctors give out medication too freely warping the brain into a false sense. I believe it can make you feel worse. So what i'm trying to say is...I don't think medication is the answer. If I was stuffed full of medication, i wouldn't realise that depression is just a phase in life, a natural one. And it passes, which makes it easier to control when it rears it's ugly head.

[bigus_dickus]

it is like a wave that passes, like a deep sleep, from which you have nothing else to do eventually but wake up.

[danielg]

Do some research into racket-feelings - they're emotions that mask more painful emotions, or less accepted emotional expressions like anger. Would make sense that, if you had abusive parents, your authentic emotion could be rage, as is usually the case. If you're up for reading up on psychobabble, then the following are all excellent for increasing self- awareness -
Gestalt Therapy: Excitement and Growth in the Human Personality: Amazon.co.uk: Frederick S. Perls: 9780285626652: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/513PJG3SH5L.@@AMEPARAM@@513PJG3SH5L
Character Analysis: Amazon.co.uk: Wilhelm Reich: 9780374509804: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Te2ZzdDpL.@@AMEPARAM@@41Te2ZzdDpL
Personality Adaptations: A New Guide to Human Understanding in Psychotherapy and Counselling: Amazon.co.uk: Vann Joines, Ian Stewart: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4121X64JW8L.@@AMEPARAM@@4121X64JW8L
Understand your parents abusiveness with this gem -
Narcissism: Denial of the True Self: Amazon.co.uk: Alexander Lowen: 9780743255431: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41j0KXHtGYL.@@AMEPARAM@@41j0KXHtGYL

[notaslave]

Do what YOU want to do. Don't do what SOCIETY tells you you should do - do what YOU want to do. You cannot be all that pleases everyone. It frankly isnt possible, stop pleasing others, stop being who they want you to be, start being who you are.

Start today - yes some people in your life will be mega pissed with you but you are who you are. Allow yourself to be it. There may come a time when you find you are totally alone, but it doesnt last long and those who demanded you should be who they wanted you to be and left when you stopped complying, WILL come back (most of them) and take you as you are. Those who dont come back, were making you an unhappy prisoner anyway and are best avoided.

What are you doing asking us? You dont NEED our permission or anyones to be who you want to be. Find the word NO/FUCK OFF and learn to use it.

You dont need books to tell you how to be happy. Toss them out with the rubbish and listen to yourself.

[danielg]

He never asked for our permission, he asked for advice.
Also, ever thought that reading could be an addition to listening to oneself, not an either-or ?

[lemonique]

it is like a wave that passes, like a deep sleep, from which you have nothing else to do eventually but wake up.

Yes, you are right. My dear Mum had a saying........"This too shall pass" (meaning depression, or other stuff). Best advice I ever had! she was right:)

Cheers

[auron]

Do what YOU want to do. Don't do what SOCIETY tells you you should do - do what YOU want to do. You cannot be all that pleases everyone. It frankly isnt possible, stop pleasing others, stop being who they want you to be, start being who you are.

Start today - yes some people in your life will be mega pissed with you but you are who you are. Allow yourself to be it. There may come a time when you find you are totally alone, but it doesnt last long and those who demanded you should be who they wanted you to be and left when you stopped complying, WILL come back (most of them) and take you as you are. Those who dont come back, were making you an unhappy prisoner anyway and are best avoided.

What are you doing asking us? You dont NEED our permission or anyones to be who you want to be. Find the word NO/FUCK OFF and learn to use it.

You dont need books to tell you how to be happy. Toss them out with the rubbish and listen to yourself.

Great words. :D

[ngawaka19]

[QUOTE=carlg1212;60497]I've suffered through some periods of heavy depression in my life, even as a child (due to abusive, alcoholic, asshole parents).

I've noticed lately that a lot more people are depressed, probably because of the shit in the food, water and air. Tell the 'normal' people that, and they look at me like I have 5 heads (while the planes fly over spraying chemtrails...some people can't see past their noses). Has anyone else noticed a lot more people claiming they're depressed? Big Pharma is right there to tell you "Just take this pill and you'll be fine".

I've also noticed a lot more people wanting to be alone and not hang out in groups. It's just my observation but wanted to know if anyone else has noticed this.

Anyway, I've gone to therapy and my conversations are something like this:

CARL: I feel like shit sometimes.
THERAPIST: Aha! You're not happy because you're not happy. Therefore, to be happy, you must be happy. That'll be $50, please.

I've read many books and tried to get into different philosophies, but was completely distrustful of any 'leader' when I realized the Dahli Lama is pro-NWO.



I might be reading this out of context but to me, I've distrustful of any so-called 'leader'.

Anyway, can anyone give me some advice to make it through this screwed-up life with at least some shread of happiness while still battling the NWO?

So many of us feel this way. Your not alone matie. I got pisshead parents too. So selfish and into themselves. I too have done therapy, prob on and off for the last 10years. At first, I never connected with the right therapist, they were money hungry, uninterested or I actually ended up councilling them as I knew more than they did. Then I got brassed off and had a heated conversation with those ghy's up stairs (our aliens), and asked them to send a guru, like a real one. Lo and behold, 1 week later, a phone number fell into my lap, nex min, I've met this incredible woman, who knows about the big brother fraternity of the psychology world. She doesn't like them and her way of healing has saved my life. My suggestion to you is keep looking for the real ones they are there. I went thru about 4 councillors before finding my one and she will be in my life always, as a friend and guru.

Hang with like minded people. Keep looking. Don't stop being curious. good luck matie.
love and light

[tinmenace]

I've also noticed a lot more people wanting to be alone and not hang out in groups. It's just my observation but wanted to know if anyone else has noticed this.



Hiya :)

Read THIS THREAD (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3883), follow ALL the links and see if any of it resonates with you, and also if you're experiencing any of the listed symptoms.

If this information is for you, then I think you'll find a lot of answers and clarity from the information listed therein.

Big hugs!
Tin

[carlg1212]

Do some research into racket-feelings - they're emotions that mask more painful emotions, or less accepted emotional expressions like anger. Would make sense that, if you had abusive parents, your authentic emotion could be rage, as is usually the case. If you're up for reading up on psychobabble, then the following are all excellent for increasing self- awareness -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gestalt-Therapy-Excitement-Growth-Personality/dp/0285626655
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Character-Analysis-Enlarged-Wilhelm-Reich/dp/0374509808/ref=sr_1_1/026-1239065-4770063?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182097671&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Personality-Adaptations-Understanding-Psychotherapy-Counselling/dp/187024401X/ref=pd_bowtega_1/026-1239065-4770063?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182097746&sr=1-1
Understand your parents abusiveness with this gem -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Narcissism-Denial-True-Alexander-Lowen/dp/0743255437/ref=pd_bowtega_1/026-1239065-4770063?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182098149&sr=1-1

Thanks man.

[carlg1212]

What are you doing asking us? You dont NEED our permission or anyones to be who you want to be. Find the word NO/FUCK OFF and learn to use it.

You dont need books to tell you how to be happy. Toss them out with the rubbish and listen to yourself.

I agree with what you're saying, but try doing that for 30+ years and eventually you reach the point where you literally are standing all alone. I (and maybe we) are the 1%.

I guess I'm asking us to band together because it would be really nice to hang out with people and talk about Ickeian philosophy without others saying "What the fuck are you talking about, you fucked up fuckup".

[montag]

I guess I'm asking us to band together because it would be really nice to hang out with people and talk about Ickeian philosophy without others saying "What the fuck are you talking about, you fucked up fuckup".
How true, I met a couple of friends from the forum a couple of weeks ago and it was the first time I have ever been able to discuss this information in person with people on the same level, it was fantastic to be able to openly express yourself without having to self censor.
I think we need to organize more meets like the one they are organizing in the UK here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3911), we have over 6,000 members here now, theres gotta be some in your area or close by.

[notaslave]

I agree with what you're saying, but try doing that for 30+ years and eventually you reach the point where you literally are standing all alone. I (and maybe we) are the 1%.

I guess I'm asking us to band together because it would be really nice to hang out with people and talk about Ickeian philosophy without others saying "What the fuck are you talking about, you fucked up fuckup".

I didnt mean to sound harsh but as I have been where you are the people who want you to be who you arent, the wardens (as I call them) anger me.
I did the counselling bit 2 years ago, I lasted 3 sessions and left thinking to myself "I am these people's fucking entertainment, my life is what they dine out on. They get paid to listen to my crap." and I never went back. lol
And yes I have been totally alone and hit the dark moments but given the choice again I would go through it all again - it was necessary.
And of those who did come back into my life - one or two still occasionally try to mould me into what they "expect" me to be and get quickly told this is me if you dont like it - theres the door, I perhaps dress it up a little better but they are in no doubt that I am not going to be moulded into their expectations.

[carlg1212]

I didnt mean to sound harsh

Not at all, I can identify with everything you wrote. Like montag wrote, there are people out there I have to find them.