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halleyscomet
21-01-2009, 04:45 PM
Teach the pleasure of gay sex to children as young as five, say researchers (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056415/Teach-pleasure-gay-sex-children-young-say-researchers.html?Gay)

Children as young as five should be taught to understand the pleasures of gay sex, according to leaders of a taxpayer-funded education project.

Heads of the project have set themselves a goal of 'creating primary classrooms where queer sexualities are affirmed and celebrated'.

The ambition was revealed in documents prepared for the No Outsiders project run by researchers from universities and backed with £600,000 of public money provided by the Economic and Social Research Council.
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Children as young as five should be taught about gay sex, an education project has said (file picture)

The stated purpose of the project - which is operating in 14 primary schools - is to stop bullying and prejudice aimed at homosexuals.

However, at a seminar at Exeter University tomorrow, supporters of the group will go beyond the anti-bullying agenda and discuss 'pleasure and desire in educational contexts'.

A document prepared for the seminar and couched in convoluted academic jargon says: 'The team is concerned to interrogate the desexualisation of children's bodies, the negation of pleasure and desire in educational contexts, and the tendency to shy away from discussion of (sexual) bodily activity in No Outsiders project work.


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'The danger of accusations of the corruption of innocent children has led team members to make repeated claims that this project is not about sex or desire - and that it is therefore not about bodies.

'Yet, at a very significant level, that is exactly what it is about and to deny this may have significant negative implications for children and young people.'

No Outsiders is led by researchers from Sunderland University and also involves academics at the Institute of Education and Exeter University. Books, puppet shows and plays are used to teach children about same-sex relationships.

During the project, the seminar paper says, its members have 'challenged each other to go beyond imagined possibilities into queer practice'.

The seminar will 'question the taken-for-granted of the supposedly sexless, bodiless and desire-less primary classroom' and examine 'the place of the research team members' own bodies, desires and pleasures in this research'.

The discussions provoked a furious reaction from critics of the homosexual rights agenda. Simon Calvert of the Christian Institute said: 'When an adult who is working in a primary school suggests that children should explore their sexuality, that should result in a complaint to the police.'

Patricia Morgan, author of studies of family life and gay adoption, said: 'The proposal is that primary school classrooms should be turned into gay saunas. This is about homosexual practice in junior schools. The idiots who repealed Section 28 should consider that this is where it has got them.'

Project leader Dr Elizabeth Atkinson said the seminar had no connection with No Outsiders work in classrooms. 'The seminar is part of a long-standing academic debate and has nothing to do with schools,' she said. 'It has no connection with sex education.'

Section 28, the law which banned the promotion of homosexuality in state schools, was repealed five years ago. Current guidance on sex education says it should not promote sexual orientation or sexual activity.

cluas
21-01-2009, 05:03 PM
FIVE years old ???'


:eek:

kweli
21-01-2009, 05:04 PM
This thread ties in with your post. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36753&highlight=year+olds

unusual_suspect
29-01-2009, 10:12 PM
When they say "understand the pleasures of gay sex" surley it is ok to teach kids not to be homophobic, I do not like the idea of children being given too many details though.

analog
29-01-2009, 11:36 PM
Teach the pleasure of gay sex to children as young as five, say researchers (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056415/Teach-pleasure-gay-sex-children-young-say-researchers.html?Gay)



How about teach children the joys of childhood without filling there heads full of immoral thoughts and corrupting them




I have nothing against consenting Adults participating in a same-sex relationship so long as they are not interfering with anyone else, while I believe that a free society should “tolerate” homosexuals I absolutely abhor the way the Politically Correct Establishment want to shove it down our throats and promote it to our children.

Any Education official who supports this should be fired.

unusual_suspect
29-01-2009, 11:39 PM
[QUOTE=analog;765049]How about teach children the joys of childhood without filling there heads full of immoral thoughts and corrupting them

QUOTE]


Absolutely, I don't think you need to talk to five year olds about sex at all unless they ask you a question about it. Even then, you don't tell them any more than they need to know.

marpat
30-01-2009, 12:22 AM
I would have thought such teaching could be classed as child abuse as you are forcing the kid into a situation they did not want to be in and conditioning them into something that may upset them.

maybe that researcher lets their kids watch gay porn or something. actually do they have their own kids?

comawhite015
30-01-2009, 12:25 AM
'Heads of the project have set themselves a goal of 'creating primary classrooms where queer sexualities are affirmed and celebrated'.

Now, there's nothing wrong with that. Heterosexual relationships have had that privilege for a long time.

As long as they're not doing things with bananas or showing porn on a projector, I really don't see a problem.

Let the children put a picture of their two daddies or two mummies holding hands on the wall if it's their family and let them not be ridiculed. It sounds like that's the main thing they're trying to accomplish.

However, with the 'desire' bit, teaching 'The pleasures of sex' in ANY way to a kid less than ten is a bit silly. They'd have no clue what was going on. Although, teaching a child that same sex relationships are just as valid and beautiful as opposite sex relationships is perfectly fine. That's just part of growing up.

meksar
30-01-2009, 12:50 AM
They are deliberately trying to make this whole homosexual agenda tie in with their population control,children are being bombarded with the stuff because the elite need to get them as soon as possible.

limelady
30-01-2009, 12:52 AM
When they say "understand the pleasures of gay sex" surley it is ok to teach kids not to be homophobic, I do not like the idea of children being given too many details though.

I think its a little more than this being promoted within schools.

Check out this thread
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51503

and in particular read post #42

unusual_suspect
30-01-2009, 12:53 AM
They are deliberately trying to make this whole homosexual agenda tie in with their population control,children are being bombarded with the stuff because the elite need to get them as soon as possible.

I have heard this opinion a lot, but I don't think that anyone can make kids gay, not even tptb. People are either gay or not and they are born that way imo, like being left handed.

debs67gb
30-01-2009, 12:58 AM
this is fooking ridiculous - my youngest is 6 and if his school tried to tell him any shit like that i would take him directly out of the school (altho I am planning on home educating - altho apparently government are trying to infer that home schoolers keep kids home cos of abuse GRRRR) - cos they aint getting their way in brainwashing them??

unusual_suspect
30-01-2009, 01:03 AM
this is fooking ridiculous - my youngest is 6 and if his school tried to tell him any shit like that i would take him directly out of the school (altho I am planning on home educating - altho apparently government are trying to infer that home schoolers keep kids home cos of abuse GRRRR) - cos they aint getting their way in brainwashing them??

I have no problem with telling kida that there is nothing wrong with being gay, but do they really need to make a big deal out of it, shouldn't they be teaching these kids reading and stuff instead of social brainwashing.

comawhite015
30-01-2009, 01:06 AM
I have no problem with telling kida that there is nothing wrong with being gay, but do they really need to make a big deal out of it, shouldn't they be teaching these kids reading and stuff instead of social brainwashing.

*chuckle* exactly. Well put :D

ritchs
30-01-2009, 03:15 AM
The "leaders of a taxpayer-funded education project" should volunteer their mothers and grandmothers and daughters to submit to this first.

You know, just to show their complete support and full confidence in this 'fine idea' by taking the lead and showing what proper leadership means.

:)

pinkfreud
30-01-2009, 04:24 AM
Now, there's nothing wrong with that. Heterosexual relationships have had that privilege for a long time.

As long as they're not doing things with bananas or showing porn on a projector, I really don't see a problem.

Let the children put a picture of their two daddies or two mummies holding hands on the wall if it's their family and let them not be ridiculed. It sounds like that's the main thing they're trying to accomplish.

However, with the 'desire' bit, teaching 'The pleasures of sex' in ANY way to a kid less than ten is a bit silly. They'd have no clue what was going on. Although, teaching a child that same sex relationships are just as valid and beautiful as opposite sex relationships is perfectly fine. That's just part of growing up.

+1.

i don't think there's a problem if children are taught to accept and not have a prejudice against same sex relationships when they grow up- if schools are teaching kids not be judgmental with regards to gay people that's great.

BUT, teaching 5 year olds about gay sex is seriously uncalled for. what i'm noticing here, is that there is a very convenient way of slipping in sex education for young kids whose minds can be easily moulded like clay. i think imparting sex education to these children at that age is not just wrong, but disgusting.

i read limelady's link on schools teaching girl-on-girl and boy-on-boy massages. wtf? where's the need to massage/fondle one another when you can just educate them, get them to read and imbibe knowledge?

this is like that german sex education pamphlet that was released by the govt., determining that parents should sexually massage babies.

ugh.

i won't be surprised if they tell adolescents to have 'safe sex' on their desks in order to truly learn about well :rolleyes: safe sex. and what's next in line? mass masturbation in classrooms?

the way things are headed is seriously disturbing, and if this is the way schools are going to teach children about acceptance and tolerance- i'd rather homeschool my kids and keep them away frm that sh*t.

oh. and homeschooling has been labelled 'illegal' in california already.

bensonz
01-02-2009, 11:30 AM
[QUOTE=comawhite015;765150]Now, there's nothing wrong with that. Heterosexual relationships have had that privilege for a long time.

Before I pass comment, given your shitstiring avatar, would you mind clarifying if you are serious or merely taking the piss by playing devils advocate?

mrmoney
01-02-2009, 07:22 PM
Just what the hell is wrong with people? How could you do honest research and come to the conclusion that anyone as young as 5 should know anything about of sex.

They're trying to do anything they can to reduce the population, even if it means making everyone gay, so they don't reproduce.