View Full Version : Are open relationships or Fuck Friends the answer?
madman
21-01-2009, 02:50 AM
There are a few relationship threads getting around at the moment. I even started one myself regarding cheating partners.
We no longer live in a society where we need to marry and a lot of these so called rules were created by institutions to control people.
I don't think anyone should be controlled in a relationship but if you are in a committed relationship I do think that cheating is wrong as that goes against the trust and commitment that being in a committed relationship should bring.
So rather than enforcing rules and control, perhaps being in an open relationship or having what is known as a "Fuck Friend" may hold the answer to a lot of people?
I'm not saying that people should give up committed relationships if they are working for them, hell I would like to get in one myself if I were to ever meet the right woman but in the meantime this kind of scenario has been working for me and will continue to work for me until I do find someone that I think is worth settling down for.
Opinions anyone?
tonak
21-01-2009, 02:54 AM
Okay here is my opinion
Love everybody unconditionally....
If you are attracted to a person beyond the rest and your conditioned mind makes you think that you mgith want to be in a relationship with them this is what you do. Do not commit yourself to them. Merely enjoy the time you have together, follow your own path allow them to follow theirs, and once again appreciate the time you find together
Now if you are in a commited relationship and you find your desires pulls you outside of that, you should follow your desires, but you should not lie to your partner about it.
If you are commited, both should do what they want just no lies within that commitment, is my opinion
Good day
montag
21-01-2009, 02:55 AM
Brave New World anyone?;)
cleopatraxxx
21-01-2009, 03:00 AM
There are a few relationship threads getting around at the moment. I even started one myself regarding cheating partners.
We no longer live in a society where we need to marry and a lot of these so called rules were created by institutions to control people.
I don't think anyone should be controlled in a relationship but if you are in a committed relationship I do think that cheating is wrong as that goes against the trust and commitment that being in a committed relationship should bring.
So rather than enforcing rules and control, perhaps being in an open relationship or having what is known as a "Fuck Friend" may hold the answer to a lot of people?
I'm not saying that people should give up committed relationships if they are working for them, hell I would like to get in one myself if I were to ever meet the right woman but in the meantime this kind of scenario has been working for me and will continue to work for me until I do find someone that I think is worth settling down for.
Opinions anyone?
yes madman,
my opinion is NEVER GET MARRIED.
what is a friendship all of a sudden becomes a weird distrusting relationship because somethings that you can talk about while friends can be spoken of, and once you marry, that's it: affraid of hruting or inssiting in something that needs solving and not being taken either seriously or for whatever reason , the coomunication starts failing.
when something like that happens all of a sudden you are trapped in a relationship out of which is difficult to break off due to all the shite of the divorce (financil process too), not to mention the load of crap involved.
anyway, when you decide a divorce all of a sudden, you start realising that if YOU move out, then the judges will consider that not really in your favor. that is a mess. and many more things.
all hurts and is horrible. the mind becomes confused. when time comes to split POSSESIONS too is another added stress.
if you are just with a FUCK FRIEND ( i didnt know that was the name it had) LOL, anyway, if you are just friends in a difficult situations you can pack and leave. no impediments! the MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE OBLIGES YOU TO LOADS OF CRAP.
FOLKS, DON'T DO IT.
and i will tell you why> SPECIALLY IF THE BOND OF LOVE IS TRULY AND DEEPLY STRONG: THERE IS NO NEED FOR PAPERS. PAPERS ONLY MEAN IT IS A RELATIONSHIP FOR THE GOVERNMENTS TO TAKE NOTICE OF. NOTHING ELSE. AND FROM THERE ON THEY ALSO PROFIT FROM IT.
all these stupid rules: the woman has to change her surname! wtf?!?!?!
then kids also become distabilizes with stupid affirmations from friends that : parents aren't married. poor kids. ALL LOOKS EASIER IN THE OUTER WORLD TO OTHERS IF YOU MARRY, BUT ESSENTIALLY TO YOU BOTH IN LOVE THAT SHOULD NEVER BE AN ISSUE. DON'T MARRY.
cleopatraxxx
21-01-2009, 03:03 AM
what i truly don't understand is those who MARRIED AND DIVORCED ONCE and get married again.
i will never marry again.
and ther is no case of telling me: never say never.
that's it.
cleopatraxxx
21-01-2009, 03:04 AM
Okay here is my opinion
Love everybody unconditionally....
If you are attracted to a person beyond the rest and your conditioned mind makes you think that you mgith want to be in a relationship with them this is what you do. Do not commit yourself to them. Merely enjoy the time you have together, follow your own path allow them to follow theirs, and once again appreciate the time you find together
Now if you are in a commited relationship and you find your desires pulls you outside of that, you should follow your desires, but you should not lie to your partner about it.
If you are commited, both should do what they want just no lies within that commitment, is my opinion
Good day
yes exactly. perfect.
croatiancoffee
21-01-2009, 03:10 AM
Open relationships are the answer for people who want open relationships.
Fuck buddies are the the answer for people who want fuck buddies.
Commited relationships (without marriage) are the answer for people who want comitted relationships.
I wouldnt recommend marriage as it serves a purpose of business, public acknowledgement, and status.
You can get this without making it legal. Just throw a big party and call it a marriage, but dont have a priest or even contract to sign. That is a celebration of two people joining, without the need for all the rubbish that can come with making it legal.
Marriage is not the answer, rather than the others being the answer. They are options.
cleopatraxxx
21-01-2009, 03:14 AM
Open relationships are the answer for people who want open relationships.
Fuck buddies are the the answer for people who want fuck buddies.
Commited relationships (without marriage) are the answer for people who want comitted relationships.
I wouldnt recommend marriage as it serves a purpose of business, public acknowledgement, and status.
You can get this without making it legal. Just throw a big party and call it a marriage, but dont have a priest or even contract to sign. That is a celebration of two people joining, without the need for all the rubbish that can come with making it legal.
Marriage is not the answer, rather than the others being the answer. They are options.
100% agreed with each word you said;)
croatiancoffee
21-01-2009, 03:15 AM
100% agreed with each word you said;)
So do I. Notice I didnt say I do? :D
cleopatraxxx
21-01-2009, 03:16 AM
So do I. Notice I didnt say I do? :D
LOL
LOL
cool
....;)
quetzalcoatl
21-01-2009, 03:29 AM
Open relationships are the answer for people who want open relationships.
Fuck buddies are the the answer for people who want fuck buddies.
Commited relationships (without marriage) are the answer for people who want comitted relationships.
I wouldnt recommend marriage as it serves a purpose of business, public acknowledgement, and status.
You can get this without making it legal. Just throw a big party and call it a marriage, but dont have a priest or even contract to sign. That is a celebration of two people joining, without the need for all the rubbish that can come with making it legal.
Marriage is not the answer, rather than the others being the answer. They are options.
Exactamondo! :)
diamondgeezer
21-01-2009, 04:05 AM
There are a few relationship threads getting around at the moment. I even started one myself regarding cheating partners.
:rolleyes:There are three relationship threads getting around at the moment madman, all started by you, and my heads starting to hurt...
:D
madman
21-01-2009, 05:04 AM
:rolleyes:There are three relationship threads getting around at the moment madman, all started by you, and my heads starting to hurt...
:D
Sorry mate, I didn't intend to cause you a headache and I didn't realize that I started so many threads on this matter but oh well. I had a lot of anger and frustration built up inside of me when I started these threads due to some recent experiences. My head was also hurting and my using this forum as a way to let off steam all the puss that was building up in my head that made it feel like it was going to explode has now been released.
Thanks for listening guys and thanks also for the opinions and advice.It has been a great help. :D
cleopatraxxx
21-01-2009, 05:09 AM
Sorry mate, I didn't intend to cause you a headache and I didn't realize that I started so many threads on this matter but oh well. I had a lot of anger and frustration built up inside of me when I started these threads due to some recent experiences. My head was also hurting and my using this forum as a way to let off steam all the puss that was building up in my head that made it feel like it was going to explode has now been released.
Thanks for listening guys and thanks also for the opinions and advice.It has been a great help. :D
what matters, i think, is that the threads madman /you started got the replies and some very usefull ones. that is very positive! we are all here looking for answers and hey dont we have many of them? :)
that is why i like so much this forum
we all went throught turmoils lately. such is life and its flow.
let it flow so that we can learn.
HUGS
Cleo
diamondgeezer
21-01-2009, 05:14 AM
Sorry mate, I didn't intend to cause you a headache and I didn't realize that I started so many threads on this matter but oh well. I had a lot of anger and frustration built up inside of me when I started these threads due to some recent experiences. My head was also hurting and my using this forum as a way to let off steam all the puss that was building up in my head that made it feel like it was going to explode has now been released.
Thanks for listening guys and thanks also for the opinions and advice.It has been a great help. :D
;)No worries mate. Haven't really got a sore head..the threads are interesting actually, wouldn't have bothered with em otherwise.
comawhite015
21-01-2009, 05:25 AM
I couldn't do an open relationship cuz I'm wayyhayyyyyy too jealous, but every now and then I don't have any problem with 'inviting a third party' into the bedroom just for a laugh. It can alleviate that sexual 'ngggggg!' that can be a niggle in the relationship *without* excluding your partner.
Especially if you both take turns on them while the other watches. Hot :D
cleopatraxxx
21-01-2009, 05:28 AM
I couldn't do an open relationship cuz I'm wayyhayyyyyy too jealous, but every now and then I don't have any problem with 'inviting a third party' into the bedroom just for a laugh. It can alleviate that sexual 'ngggggg!' that can be a niggle in the relationship *without* excluding your partner.
Especially if you both take turns on them while the other watches. Hot :D
:eek: comawhite015!!! group sex???
how can that be if you are that jelous?
comawhite015
21-01-2009, 05:30 AM
:eek: comawhite015!!! group sex???
how can that be if you are that jelous?
Well it changes the entire thing. Instead of 'you all three doing eachother' it's 'you and your partner doing them'.. like a little team of two. If you feel as though you're still a 'duo' with all the high-fives and shit and the other person is just an extra, it can actually be a lot of fun without any of the jealous feelings.
Instead of 1 + 1 + 1 it becomes 2 + 1
See what I mean?
cleopatraxxx
21-01-2009, 05:37 AM
Well it changes the entire thing. Instead of 'you all three doing eachother' it's 'you and your partner doing them'.. like a little team of two. If you feel as though you're still a 'duo' with all the high-fives and shit and the other person is just an extra, it can actually be a lot of fun without any of the jealous feelings.
Instead of 1 + 1 + 1 it becomes 2 + 1
See what I mean?
LOL
as my dad says: "there is taste for everything"
there truly is...
LOL
comawhite015
21-01-2009, 05:39 AM
LOL
as my dad says: "there is taste for everything"
there truly is...
LOL
There *really*, *really* is.
Also, I love your avatar :D
cleopatraxxx
21-01-2009, 05:47 AM
There *really*, *really* is.
Also, I love your avatar :D
thank you. the most adorable cartoons i find are: the pink panther, the WIley Coyote from the Roadrunner. i love tom and Jerry and also Bugs Bunny.
hehehe
i actually miss watching some cool cartoons!!!
netta
21-01-2009, 06:01 AM
I couldn't do an open relationship cuz I'm wayyhayyyyyy too jealous, but every now and then I don't have any problem with 'inviting a third party' into the bedroom just for a laugh. It can alleviate that sexual 'ngggggg!' that can be a niggle in the relationship *without* excluding your partner.
Especially if you both take turns on them while the other watches. Hot :D
Yeah that's cool. If you are ok with that, there's nothing wrong with it. As long as you trusted your partner it would be ok.
Well it changes the entire thing. Instead of 'you all three doing eachother' it's 'you and your partner doing them'.. like a little team of two. If you feel as though you're still a 'duo' with all the high-fives and shit and the other person is just an extra, it can actually be a lot of fun without any of the jealous feelings.
Instead of 1 + 1 + 1 it becomes 2 + 1
See what I mean?
Yeah I get it. That's cool. As long as your partner doesn't go out and sleep with anyone else without you. If you are both sharing the person than that is better. Then it's equal. Keep it equal and I am happy.
comawhite015
21-01-2009, 06:03 AM
Yeah I get it. That's cool. As long as your partner doesn't go out and sleep with anyone else without you. If you are both sharing the person than that is better. Then it's equal. Keep it equal and I am happy.
Yep, that's the whole point =)
free_soul
21-01-2009, 06:06 AM
There are a few relationship threads getting around at the moment. I even started one myself regarding cheating partners.
We no longer live in a society where we need to marry and a lot of these so called rules were created by institutions to control people.
I don't think anyone should be controlled in a relationship but if you are in a committed relationship I do think that cheating is wrong as that goes against the trust and commitment that being in a committed relationship should bring.
So rather than enforcing rules and control, perhaps being in an open relationship or having what is known as a "Fuck Friend" may hold the answer to a lot of people?
I'm not saying that people should give up committed relationships if they are working for them, hell I would like to get in one myself if I were to ever meet the right woman but in the meantime this kind of scenario has been working for me and will continue to work for me until I do find someone that I think is worth settling down for.
Opinions anyone?
Personally i don't agree with fuck buddies. My opinion is sex is a way to show intimate love, if i don't have anyone to share that kind of love this my hand will do :P
Also there is a wierd thing that happens with age gaps in relationships, people cant seem to understand love is love and not a looks thing. Im in a relationship were my girlfriend is 15 years and i have seen every reaction about it, can anyone enlighten me?
A relationship should be about 2 beings of conciesnes coming together
cleopatraxxx
21-01-2009, 06:14 AM
Personally i don't agree with fuck buddies. My opinion is sex is a way to show intimate love, if i don't have anyone to share that kind of love this my hand will do :P
Also there is a wierd thing that happens with age gaps in relationships, people cant seem to understand love is love and not a looks thing. Im in a relationship were my girlfriend is 15 years and i have seen every reaction about it, can anyone enlighten me?
A relationship should be about 2 beings of conciesnes coming together
well, for example, i was 24 , he was 36, so we were with a huge gap of age between, but mindwise he was after all a teenager, he managed to make 6 kids in 6 yeras with 6 different woman ! imagine! i have his child and i remained a single mother for a long time.
so there is something weird about men who date younger women, no? yes?
free_soul
21-01-2009, 06:17 AM
well, for example, i was 24 , he was 32, so we were with a huge gap of age between, but mindwise he was after all a teenager, he managed to make 6 kids in 6 yeras with 6 different woman ! imagine! i have his child and i remained a single mother for a long time.
so there is something weird about men who date younger women, no? yes?
Sorry i think you got it backwards :P
Im 20 and she is 35, 36 in march :P
If it was the other way around i garentee people would shake my hand but instead i get funny looks :P
I feel for ya im from a father like that had loads of kids with loads of women probably why i am the way i am.
day x
halliburton crusher
21-01-2009, 06:34 AM
well, for example, i was 24 , he was 36, so we were with a huge gap of age between, but mindwise he was after all a teenager, he managed to make 6 kids in 6 yeras with 6 different woman ! imagine! i have his child and i remained a single mother for a long time.
so there is something weird about men who date younger women, no? yes?
i think men and women should be required to sign contracts of agreement for each child planned between the two of them, lest we have six fucked up children born to seven fucked up people in the world.
we should have breeding licenses ... not marriage licenses.
maturity is maturity ... regardless of age.
svadil
21-01-2009, 06:55 AM
I have my own thoughts on this concept.
I personally think that Marriage is manmade concept. Yes there are some marriages that last, but it is just symbol of dedication between two individuals.
It seems that many see too lighty on it. I don't mind it, even though I think they have a long way to go. I think you can be married without getting married. If you live together for a time, it is almost the same thing without the big mega-issues of What is mine, and I think many may get married just for money.
There seems to be some kind of Great Social Peer-Pressure to get married, have wife, 2.4 children, white picket fence and 2 volvos. Yet why is that?
I have talked to some people who are not heterosexuals but have been forced into marriage because they felt social pressure to fit in. They have not felt very comfortable in this and still don't. They are stuck in a lie and that's not really fair on neither part.
You can say marriage is nothing else than a purchase of a spouse from the parents. This is cause weddings are usually very expensive and someone has to pay for it.
I have my own values in this regards which may not be shared by everyone and I am ok with that. I think if you are comfortable with having Open relationship, then Fine, and if you feel you are need of Fuck buddies, then go ahead.
One concept and idea I have had for some years is.. Why should I judge on how others lead their lives? If any judgement is called, it's up to the Creator and final judgement. It's not for mortal human to say which is what.
Someone said to me ( I don't know who )
What is Moral may not be right, and what is right may not be moral.
beldazar
21-01-2009, 08:31 AM
My answer? No
free_soul
21-01-2009, 01:24 PM
i think men and women should be required to sign contracts of agreement for each child planned between the two of them, lest we have six fucked up children born to seven fucked up people in the world.
we should have breeding licenses ... not marriage licenses.
maturity is maturity ... regardless of age.
what the fuck!!!!
we should have no licences lol
to be in contract of a license if to alow some one else to dictate who can have kids and the sterolisation will come in after that :S
shane
21-01-2009, 01:29 PM
It's nice for kids to have parents who are together...
That's about the only upside to marriage I can think of right now
mindrevolution
21-01-2009, 01:57 PM
I find all this relationship stuff interesting but it plays a massive role in most if not everyones lives. I see no problem in an open relationship aslong as both partners agree to it.
If you are in a relationship and you want to sleep with other people but your partner doesn't like the idea than perhaps you are in the wrong relationship.
I think sex and being satisfied in a relationship is a major thing.
It's the biggest distraction surely? people are not reaching their full potential because their sexual needs and emotional needs are not being met. some people almost seem to stop fuctioning properly when they are single and not being satisfied sexually.
All this going out on a night trying to pull, and that being all you think about for the entire week...it could all be unnecessary.
I don't have the answers but at least i am looking into it. I am trying to work out my views on sex and work out my own emotional needs regarding relationships. Relationships and sex should not be the struggle it is for most.
It is holding most of us back i feel.
rhydra
21-01-2009, 02:16 PM
My answer would be no. One person's hard enough to please let alone a few, it is more likely to end in tears in a major way due to the sociological programming, no matter how deprogrammed you think you are you still have to live within that society.
Regardless of how committed someone is at the beginning there is no way that they will be able to say that they won't suddenly fall down with jealousy or some other unpredictable emotion which would throw a spanner in the emotional works.
Even if you really do know yourself, do you really know your prospective partners?
baron von lotsov
21-01-2009, 03:29 PM
There are a few relationship threads getting around at the moment. I even started one myself regarding cheating partners.
We no longer live in a society where we need to marry and a lot of these so called rules were created by institutions to control people.
I don't think anyone should be controlled in a relationship but if you are in a committed relationship I do think that cheating is wrong as that goes against the trust and commitment that being in a committed relationship should bring.
So rather than enforcing rules and control, perhaps being in an open relationship or having what is known as a "Fuck Friend" may hold the answer to a lot of people?
I'm not saying that people should give up committed relationships if they are working for them, hell I would like to get in one myself if I were to ever meet the right woman but in the meantime this kind of scenario has been working for me and will continue to work for me until I do find someone that I think is worth settling down for.
Opinions anyone?
It's exactly what the NWO wants you to think. Think about it and see if you can spot why.
kweli
21-01-2009, 03:46 PM
It's exactly what the NWO wants you to think. Think about it and see if you can spot why.
That's the thing though Baron, folk can't see what's happening. I started a thread the other day about virtual sex (some new interactive gadget) and the thread ended up being trashed by meaningless tripe - almost everyone missed the point.
serenevasaline
21-01-2009, 03:48 PM
It's exactly what the NWO wants you to think. Think about it and see if you can spot why.
Exactly!! :)
I havnt read the rest of the thread, but I thought I'd just throw in my 2 peneth :D
There are a few problems with the "fuck friend" concept. Somewhere along the line one of you is gonna get bored and hurt when the other one 'fucks' (hehe)off to find another fuck friend. I don't think as caring human beings we can turn off that feeling we get when we are hurt. And we can't turn off the feelings we get when we fall in love.
Maybe if we just met these people in night clubs, and then took them home and sent them packing the next day before we have time to grow attatched in any way. But I don't want my life to be like that.
Also, one of the things that makes us special as humans is that we have loving relationships. I do think when it comes to our sex lives, at one point in your life you get fed up of the mistrust in flings and sex with friends and you long for something deeper. no?
Oh, and what about pregnancy. There are so many problems with getting a woman pregnant and then having no commitment to her.
Animals have sex with with any other animal they feel like. We are not animals. I thought we were mentally evolving guys. not devolving.
But, in a fantasy land, where no feelings are involved, I would be up for your idea. I'd make friends with Keanu Reeves and Johnny Depp straight away:D
....oh and Trent Reznor..how could i forget. Yoo hoo Trent, can I borrow a cup of sugar:D
size_of_light
21-01-2009, 04:00 PM
It can alleviate that sexual 'ngggggg!' that can be a niggle in the relationship :D
lol
What's a 'sexual ngggggg!' ?
:D
rhydra
21-01-2009, 04:03 PM
lol
What's a 'sexual ngggggg!' ?
:D
I'm not sure but it could lead to a busted blood vessel! :p
diamondgeezer
21-01-2009, 04:16 PM
Animals have sex with with any other animal they feel like. We are not animals.
;)But there lies the crux of the problem, we ARE animals!
At least on a sexual/reproductive level we still are, primitive urges & all that. And we're not particularly designed to be monogamous either, which doesn't help. Some species are monogamous for life, swans for example, but most aren't, us included.
Think about it, without the artificial constraints of marriage that were imposed on our grandparents in order to be together (an un-natural state of affairs imposed on societies for the purposes of social order, control etc), today in the 'decadent west' our true colours are now showing through...50% divorce rate, single parent families becoming the norm, etc. Why? Because 'nature' designed us to 'fall in love' and stay attracted/devoted/whatever to each other just long enough to procreate, to give birth & then raise the resulting offspring together in a secure environment just about long enough for those offspring to become self-sufficient adults (or near as dammit).
;)Not a pleasant thought I know, but its the truth. Like I said think about it, its how mammals as a rule have evolved to behave, and thats what we are, just highly developed mammals.
sophia_h
21-01-2009, 05:54 PM
Open relationships are the answer for people who want open relationships.
Fuck buddies are the the answer for people who want fuck buddies.
Commited relationships (without marriage) are the answer for
people who want comitted relationships.
I wouldnt recommend marriage as it serves a purpose of business,
public acknowledgement, and status.
You can get this without making it legal. Just throw a big party and
call it a marriage, but dont have a priest or even contract to sign.
That is a celebration of two people joining, without the need for all the rubbish that can come with making it legal.
Marriage is not the answer, rather than the others being
the answer. They are options.
croatiancoffee
well said.
Pagan handfasting works well
marriage was invented to make sure the legalized offspring
of the male got his property mostly shorting the female kids
and always leaving out any kids he may have got behind
the pantry door.
they are still his but he as this piece of paper denoting his
OWNERSHIP of the womans body and right to use it to beget
what kids HE is willing to recognize so if he is a cheap prick
he can refuse any support for the woman and her child by him
while society based on male benefitting laws makes the baby a
bastard and her penniless so the kid goes to an orphanage
and she slides down the social laddder to a horrible end.
Blesssedly this has changed over the years in some
Wesern nations while in other nations the woman can
be killed even while pregnant!
the laws of inheritance say the idiot inherits and the bright
and honorable one goes without any is oft repeated in history !
without marriage women can choose the genes they want in
any begetting . pre pregnancy agreements must be made avail.
online and in every quick foods markets. people wishing to have
penetrating sex must either use precautions or BOTH sign
an agreement as to how they will support and raise any
begotten !
violation of the ageement by either parent would carry
legal fines and possible loss of the child. keeping people
resopnsible by such for a few generations would make it a
way of life to be RESPONSIBLE about ones sex life and to
any possible offsprings and free up the need for welfare for
MOST who are now relegated there.
no more bastards male OR female and all progeny set up
while the TWO parents are living. any gained assests beyond
those paid as gifts to supporters and assistants go to the
public coffers desiganted by the ones who earned the assets
for the publically owned projects of their choice as environment,
education, R&D.. etc.
more equal disribution of wealth helps eliminate the govt.
involvement in the PEOPLES projects .
people learn not to hold vast wealth and give it over to irresponsible
kids to waste away while other kids get no education.
all businesses stop nepotism and institute MERIT.
yes a partner/spouse can work in a family business if it has the
credentials. excess wealth paid into a fund for PARENTS to be
able to take a 6 mos leave from jobs to bond and settle with
the new little person.
open relationships for all as soon as the legal structures are
in place for any birthed from any relatioships and
all SHOULD be planned !
no more unwanted babies!
:D
.
red_ram
21-01-2009, 06:23 PM
I certainly feel that fuckbuddies are the way forward for me at this point in my life, but I'm not going to rule out a monogamous relationship should it come along.
I have done it before but maybe as I've gotten older I've changed because sex is connected to love for me and I don't feel able to have sex with someone unless I love them. Yes I love everyone in general but there is just a layer of intimacy knowing that someone is special and you two are just in it together and nobody else. Maybe this could work for some folks with a sex friend but not me. I like to be committed and monogamous. I won't judge others for whatever they want to do in their life though.
januspolanski
21-01-2009, 07:11 PM
i think men and women should be required to sign contracts of agreement for each child planned between the two of them, lest we have six fucked up children born to seven fucked up people in the world.
we should have breeding licenses ... not marriage licenses.
+1
This would go a long way to stopping the little scumbags that roam the streets of the UK every night and stop trailer trash/jeremy kyle show women having 20 kids each to get free cash from the government.
comawhite015
21-01-2009, 08:33 PM
lol
What's a 'sexual ngggggg!' ?
:D
It is that thing that happens when you look at someone else and go 'GodDAMN they have a nice ass.' or something. If the relationship is such that sex for fucking is not just sex for fucking, then it can create a 'nnng!'
If you both agree that they have a nice ass, then sweet. Divide it amongst the two of you. :D
My point is that making love is awesome and that is what you do with your partner. But sometimes, you just want to FUCK. And when you just want to FUCK (capitals required), then you do that with your partner too. But SOMETIMES, you can invite someone else to join the party and make a game of it :D
I'm not sure but it could lead to a busted blood vessel! :p
*snigger* Yeah but what a way to go! :D With your feet behind your ears screaming 'YEEEEEEHAW!'
cleopatraxxx
21-01-2009, 10:01 PM
i think men and women should be required to sign contracts of agreement for each child planned between the two of them, lest we have six fucked up children born to seven fucked up people in the world.
we should have breeding licenses ... not marriage licenses.
maturity is maturity ... regardless of age.
well said, PLANNED....:rolleyes:
alfrmo
21-01-2009, 10:32 PM
While there is nothing wrong with so-called "fuck buddies" if between two
consenting adults, when I think about the benefits of the situation ie no-strings
sex, combined with so-called "freedom" it sounds great. However, in my
personal opinion it isn't the answer. Someone usually ends up getting hurt or
manipulated in the situation. You also have the perils of unwanted children etc.
What is attractive to lots of people in this situation is the total lack of any
responsibility for their so-called "buddy". How the PTB love this situation,
which can only develop into a selfish, immature and morally fragmented
society. In my opinion relationships are about so much more than just sex,
and are to be valued, in a lot of "open relationships" respect for self and
others bodies/feelings go out the window in persuit of selfish gratification
devoid of any real meaning.
eternal_spirit
21-01-2009, 10:51 PM
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octopusrex
22-01-2009, 01:44 AM
I am of the opinion of live and let live.
Some folks like marriage.
Some folks like la vida loca.
Some folks like goats.
WHO ARE WE TO CHOOSE FOR THEM?
queenmaeve
22-01-2009, 03:24 AM
Marriage is great, but do it secretly so the government doesn't know. It's cheaper to take vows in privacy without official documents or a justice of the peace. Only you and your partner would know that you're married.
The expenses for being officially married are too high! No tax breaks, name changes and, god forbid, divorce fees.
Open relationships...I don't know. I think for a few it may work, but most it would not.
crowd control
22-01-2009, 03:44 AM
Brave New World anyone?;)
:)
""Everyone belongs to everyone else"
montag
22-01-2009, 03:52 AM
:)
""Everyone belongs to everyone else"
I'm relieved somebody got it!:p
helloperator
22-01-2009, 03:58 AM
Some woman talked to me about her 'fuck buddy'...I told her to please never say that term 'fuck buddy' in front of me ever again. I said, hey, if you want to have a 'fuck buddy' that's cool...I just don't ever want to hear those two words used like that together ever again. It really annoyed the living shit out of me.
montag
22-01-2009, 04:03 AM
Some woman talked to me about her 'fuck buddy'...I told her to please never say that term 'fuck buddy' in front of me ever again. I said, hey, if you want to have a 'fuck buddy' that's cool...I just don't ever want to hear those two words used like that together ever again. It really annoyed the living shit out of me.
I had the same experience last week where a girl I was talking too mentioned her 'fuck buddy' I thought it was strange too, I wonder where they get these terms from, sounds like programming.
cleopatraxxx
22-01-2009, 04:27 AM
I had the same experience last week where a girl I was talking too mentioned her 'fuck buddy' I thought it was strange too, I wonder where they get these terms from, sounds like programming.
well, i read it for the first time on this forum!!!!! LOL
whatistruth
22-01-2009, 04:31 AM
Whenever i hear terms like 'fuck buddy' out of a person i just know i wont get on with them.
Its just like football, whenever i know someone whos really into football i just dont click with them.
So whenever i meet someone now i just ask them if they 'watched the game on saturday', if they say yes i just blank them and walk away.
cleopatraxxx
22-01-2009, 04:35 AM
Whenever i hear terms like 'fuck buddy' out of a person i just know i wont get on with them.
Its just like football, whenever i know someone whos really into football i just dont click with them.
So whenever i meet someone now i just ask them if they 'watched the game on saturday', if they say yes i just blank them and walk away.
honestly, i don't have friends that i know that have the so called "fuck buddies".
and those who i know, guys who like that type of life and actually cheat on their wives, i stay away from. and i don't like my husband near them either.
ever heard that sentence: "tell me who your friends are and i will tell you who you are" ?
mostly it is true. you learn from those with whom you share your life. you either become like them, fit into the group, or you simply move out of it.
crowd control
22-01-2009, 04:39 AM
I had the same experience last week where a girl I was talking too mentioned her 'fuck buddy' I thought it was strange too, I wonder where they get these terms from, sounds like programming.
Newspeak? :D
pinkfreud
22-01-2009, 04:47 AM
Open relationships are the answer for people who want open relationships.
Fuck buddies are the the answer for people who want fuck buddies.
Commited relationships (without marriage) are the answer for people who want comitted relationships.
I wouldnt recommend marriage as it serves a purpose of business, public acknowledgement, and status.
You can get this without making it legal. Just throw a big party and call it a marriage, but dont have a priest or even contract to sign. That is a celebration of two people joining, without the need for all the rubbish that can come with making it legal.
Marriage is not the answer, rather than the others being the answer. They are options.
bingo. good post.
I have my own thoughts on this concept.
I personally think that Marriage is manmade concept. Yes there are some marriages that last, but it is just symbol of dedication between two individuals.
It seems that many see too lighty on it. I don't mind it, even though I think they have a long way to go. I think you can be married without getting married. If you live together for a time, it is almost the same thing without the big mega-issues of What is mine, and I think many may get married just for money.
There seems to be some kind of Great Social Peer-Pressure to get married, have wife, 2.4 children, white picket fence and 2 volvos. Yet why is that?
I have talked to some people who are not heterosexuals but have been forced into marriage because they felt social pressure to fit in. They have not felt very comfortable in this and still don't. They are stuck in a lie and that's not really fair on neither part.
You can say marriage is nothing else than a purchase of a spouse from the parents. This is cause weddings are usually very expensive and someone has to pay for it.
I have my own values in this regards which may not be shared by everyone and I am ok with that. I think if you are comfortable with having Open relationship, then Fine, and if you feel you are need of Fuck buddies, then go ahead.
One concept and idea I have had for some years is.. Why should I judge on how others lead their lives? If any judgement is called, it's up to the Creator and final judgement. It's not for mortal human to say which is what.
Someone said to me ( I don't know who )
What is Moral may not be right, and what is right may not be moral.
+1
svadil
22-01-2009, 10:37 AM
I am of the opinion of live and let live.
Some folks like marriage.
Some folks like la vida loca.
Some folks like goats.
WHO ARE WE TO CHOOSE FOR THEM?
I am of the same idea and thought, Who am I to decide what others should choose? It is not for me to take that responsability, but to the great creator in the end. Live and Let Live.
I think Love knows no real boundries, and maybe it's just my thought, but Goats as well as all animals are all sparks of life, and it's not really the outside that counts. It is what is on the inside.
I have a Dane Lady that shares my love and life, and some have noted to me, when seeing how she and I interact and behave, it is like: When did you two get married?
She does brighten up my life, to me the fact that she is of different species is not that big of deal. Afterall Adam was asked to find a mate in the garden of Eden before he got Eve ;) and who knows..
If Adam had chosen a horse, we'd all be Centaurs :D
As been said before even WE are animals and bound by the same rules and needs as they are.
wildheartx
22-01-2009, 10:51 AM
It's an interesting area for sure. For me personally i dont think i could do it. I believe within certain personality types open relationships can work but i've been in love and don't think i could have seen my partner with someone else. If you're single fine I believe experiences may help you grow spiritually. I think the term fuck friend is derogatory though. This would probably tell you more about the people who use the phrase than anything else, not to mention their attitude to sex. It might apply to empty one night stands but if youre going to have sex with a friend there is a bond there and would involve massive trust. Particularly if you met someone on via this website. The people are on here(this website) are more evolved(i truly believe that..well most of us) than a lot of those who are still asleep so i think in that aspect there would most likely be more respect given.
Again me personally i'm not sure i could do it. Close female friends no problem but sexual, i dont think i could but then again i'm at a time in my life where im not feeling particularly sexual.
cleopatraxxx
22-01-2009, 11:36 AM
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size_of_light
22-01-2009, 12:23 PM
It is that thing that happens when you look at someone else and go 'GodDAMN they have a nice ass.' or something. If the relationship is such that sex for fucking is not just sex for fucking, then it can create a 'nnng!'
If you both agree that they have a nice ass, then sweet. Divide it amongst the two of you. :D
My point is that making love is awesome and that is what you do with your partner. But sometimes, you just want to FUCK. And when you just want to FUCK (capitals required), then you do that with your partner too. But SOMETIMES, you can invite someone else to join the party and make a game of it :D
I really need to get out more. :eek: :D
cleopatraxxx
22-01-2009, 01:28 PM
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octopusrex
22-01-2009, 02:33 PM
I am of the same idea and thought, Who am I to decide what others should choose? It is not for me to take that responsability, but to the great creator in the end. Live and Let Live.
I think Love knows no real boundries, and maybe it's just my thought, but Goats as well as all animals are all sparks of life, and it's not really the outside that counts. It is what is on the inside.
I have a Dane Lady that shares my love and life, and some have noted to me, when seeing how she and I interact and behave, it is like: When did you two get married?
She does brighten up my life, to me the fact that she is of different species is not that big of deal. Afterall Adam was asked to find a mate in the garden of Eden before he got Eve ;) and who knows..
If Adam had chosen a horse, we'd all be Centaurs :D
As been said before even WE are animals and bound by the same rules and needs as they are.
Woof woof.
shenoma
22-01-2009, 02:35 PM
Mr. Sunglasses says: why pay for the milk when you can get it next to nothing.
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octopusrex
22-01-2009, 02:38 PM
Mr. Sunglasses says: why pay for the milk when you can get it next to nothing.
http://0.media.bustedtees.com/bustedtees/mf/5/6/bustedtees.88a5dc25d080275148b6e1b63c94cbab.gif
The Dude would write a check for the milk.
shenoma
22-01-2009, 02:40 PM
Nah, he would just charge it on his parents credit cards until their death.
The Dude would write a check for the milk.
shane
22-01-2009, 08:28 PM
But, in a fantasy land, where no feelings are involved, I would be up for your idea. I'd make friends with Keanu Reeves and Johnny Depp straight away:D
....oh and Trent Reznor..how could i forget. Yoo hoo Trent, can I borrow a cup of sugar:D
Haha... I know I'd like to have a friend called Serene Vasaline ;)