Received parking tickets, serving a notice?

[sindakit]

I recieved a parking charge notice from a parking attendant working on behalf of the corporation, listed on dunn & bradstreet, known as dundee city council a few days ago.

At the moment i'm wondering which path I should follow in order to remedy this situation.

firstly, should i serve notice and deny the charge, what should it contain? I haven't yet served a NoUICoR to declare freeman status. Can this still be done?

The other option I think may be viable is that, since it states on the back of the PCN that if I do not pay the charge they will serve a notice to the owner of the vehicle, I simply admit to not being the owner of the vehicle but merely the registered keeper and so they must serve notice to the DVLA if requesting payment. I do like the sound of that option i hope its possible lol

I am aware I should probably serve notice to them in order to accept that i have recieved the charge notice but am unwilling to pay.

Is it possible for them to take legal/court action, if i serve notice? i would quite enjoy that i think :D

On a side note:
I have had 5 parking tickets waivered (well, unresponded to by the parking company involved) before but that was for supermarket parking tickets (yay Lidl) and I followed that through by stating the Unfair tradings act and because the person driving was responsible not the keeper of the car and they couldn't prove who was driving. But since that was not a 'government' body it followed different rules according to ticketfighter.co.uk (i think is the site). This was well before I learned of freeman and knew that councils are listed as companies? Do you think a similar remedy would work?
I prob could appeal via standard ways but then i'm entering statutes and i'd like to try it without being under there rules.

thanks
Sinda (parking violator extrordinaire :p)

[pleasuredome]

i'd send them a notice of clarification. i did one for my bro in law who got a parking ticket. basically it asks for presentation of a 2 party signed contract and a bill. if they couldnt do that then the council agree that my bro doesnt owe anything.

[makeithappen]

notice of clarification - where can I find some template or template for this notice?

[pleasuredome]

To[ADDRESS]


[DATE]

Re: PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE [PCN number], [Issue date]

NOTICE OF REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION


You have apparently made allegations of that I owe you money. You have apparently made demands upon me to pay the money allegedly owed.

I seek clarification so that I may act according to the law.

I conditionally accept your offer to pay £......., upon proof of claim that there exists a signed two party contract between us, and that if you can prove that said contract exists, you make presentation of a bill of exchange for the aforementioned amount.

Failure to accept this offer to clarify and to do so completely and in good faith within 3 days will be deemed by all parties to mean you and your principal or other parties abandon all demands upon me.

Proof and presentation must be sent via registered mail to:

[ADDRESS]

no later than THREE (3) days from the date of receipt as dated by way of Royal Mail recorded delivery service. Further demands for payment thereafter by you or any third parties will be seen as a breach of Section 1 of The Protection from Harassment Act 1997 if you fall into dishonour by failing to respond within the three days.


Sincerely and without ill will, vexation or frivolity
[Signature]


you can use mine. read it, understand it and adapt it to you needs.

[sindakit]

wow, thanks. that seems pretty tight to me.

Sinda

[bones]

just ask for the biil and the contract that made the bill liable.

tell em that the notice left on the screen is just a notice. not abill.

tell em u will pay all of it if they send what u ask 4.

if they say we dont give bills out what gives em the authoriy to demand money?

go to thinkfreeforums.org and you willl learn more there.

[godspeed]

good for you sindikit fight back up there....too many people just paying up and shuting up....spirit is stronger for a fight back........;)

[zarah]

I think there might be an adjustment to an existing statute which blocks this loophole...

I would just fight it logistically - so many parking tickets are issued unfairly. Check the way in which it was issued and make sure that each detail of the procedure was followed..if it wasn't the ticket's invalidated.

[makeithappen]

this is what i have back from the bailiff services following the above letter. The letter was not delivered by recorded postage, also was dated 24th Jan. Stamped 26th Jan and as you can see demands action from me on 28th. Today. The post has just arrived, it was sent 2nd class.

So this is the reply. Any advice will be great.

Dear Sir / Madam (They did not use a name)

Re: Road Traffic owing to LB of Merton - Road Traffic
Amount Outstanding £166.00

I refer to your letter dated January 22 2009 regarding my offices involvement in collection an unpaid penalty charge.
We act upon instruction from Merton Councils parking department and are authorised to do so under court warrant.
The details that have been passed to my office have been provided to you under separate cover previously, however I list the offence details.
The notice was issued for parking in a restricted street, Crown Lane Morden Surrey on April 16 2008.
Notices regarding this would have been server by the parking department under separate cover and my office has now issued you with the first statutory letter.
The position now is that if you do not pay the stated amount by Wednesday January 29 2009 your file will be allocated to a bailiff who in turn will collect this balance together with certain feed and charged. I hope my response clearly explains the position for you.

Tours faithfully,

Merton Bailiff Services.

[number_6]

I would suggest that after January 29th. you keep your car hidden. If a bailiff attends the first thing he will do is to clamp your car.

[outelligent]

Dear Sir / Madam (They did not use a name)

Re: Road Traffic owing to LB of Merton - Road Traffic
Amount Outstanding £166.00

I refer to your letter dated January 22 2009 regarding my offices involvement in collection an unpaid penalty charge.
We act upon instruction from Merton Councils parking department and are authorised to do so under court warrant.
The details that have been passed to my office have been provided to you under separate cover previously, however I list the offence details.
The notice was issued for parking in a restricted street, Crown Lane Morden Surrey on April 16 2008.
Notices regarding this would have been server by the parking department under separate cover and my office has now issued you with the first statutory letter.
The position now is that if you do not pay the stated amount by Wednesday January 29 2009 your file will be allocated to a bailiff who in turn will collect this balance together with certain feed and charged. I hope my response clearly explains the position for you.

Tours faithfully,

Merton Bailiff Services.
There is lots of advice out there on how to deal with bailiffs I recommend:
http://criminal-bailiffs.angelfire.com/index.htm.

I would say they need some sort of court order or county court judgment against you and if you haven't had a summons you haven't had your right to a fair trail. The citizens advice shop can give you advice on how to suspended them.

Its important you remember you haven't refused to pay. The debt is in despite. Why are they contacting you? are you the RK? it may be that the driver committed the alleged offense.

[makeithappen]

Thanks for the info. This is what I am going to send.

NAME OF BAILIFF OR AUTHORITY

ADDRESS LINE 1

ADDRESS LINE 2

ADDRESS LINE 3

POSTCODE

DATE

Dear Sir/Madam

Re: [YOUR NAME]: Notice of Ownership

I write on the understanding you or your firm of bailiffs has seized, or is intending to seize chattels, vehicles, goods, or property belonging to me at the above-mentioned address in respect of an alleged debt belonging to somebody else.

I confirm that I am the lawful owner of the aforesaid and there is no entitlement enabling you to change ownership, possession, location, use and enjoyment of my property by way of a levy or a walking possession agreement.

This document is delivered by Royal Mail and I deem it to be served on you by the ordinary course of post in the meaning of Section 7 of the Interpretation Act 1978 and therefore your responsibility and your own interests this letter is handed to the relevant person within your organisation.

Any attempt to subvert or rebuke this notice will result in an invalid levy and I will automatically file at court a Form 4 complaint with an application for costs against the certificated bailiff without contacting you further in this matter.

Yours Sincerely

[bones]

stop fucking around get a grip with this b4 they own you!!!

just conditionally accept it on demand of a bill in accordance with the bills of exchange act of 1882.

and the contract which made you liable to pay the bill in the first place.

.... if you dont do this you may get owned.....

go to thinkfreeforums.org and look up united kingdom ,,,parking notice started by me bones228...

i havnt heard anymore since the 16th dec 08...

dont play the game of court action etc !!!! also read the office of fair trading guidlines .

(oh yer sumone made a comment as to hide ya car!!!! lol they use ANPR now so they will find it parked round the corner....)

[vienna]

I recieved a parking charge notice from a parking attendant working on behalf of the corporation, listed on dunn & bradstreet, known as dundee city council a few days ago.

At the moment i'm wondering which path I should follow in order to remedy this situation.

firstly, should i serve notice and deny the charge, what should it contain? I haven't yet served a NoUICoR to declare freeman status. Can this still be done?

The other option I think may be viable is that, since it states on the back of the PCN that if I do not pay the charge they will serve a notice to the owner of the vehicle, I simply admit to not being the owner of the vehicle but merely the registered keeper and so they must serve notice to the DVLA if requesting payment. I do like the sound of that option i hope its possible lol

I am aware I should probably serve notice to them in order to accept that i have recieved the charge notice but am unwilling to pay.

Is it possible for them to take legal/court action, if i serve notice? i would quite enjoy that i think :D

On a side note:
I have had 5 parking tickets waivered (well, unresponded to by the parking company involved) before but that was for supermarket parking tickets (yay Lidl) and I followed that through by stating the Unfair tradings act and because the person driving was responsible not the keeper of the car and they couldn't prove who was driving. But since that was not a 'government' body it followed different rules according to ticketfighter.co.uk (i think is the site). This was well before I learned of freeman and knew that councils are listed as companies? Do you think a similar remedy would work?
I prob could appeal via standard ways but then i'm entering statutes and i'd like to try it without being under there rules.

thanks
Sinda (parking violator extrordinaire :p)

go to this thread I started on Martins Money Saving Tips to disemminate the freeman movement wider - I've sneakily posted some links to Rob Menards vids on that site in the past

http://www.b3ta.com/search/posts?q=david+icke

someone has scanned the letter of exactly what you say and how you word it -and posted it orginally on John Harris's site - where I found it


http://www.tpuc.org/files/PCN3(1).jpg

http://www.tpuc.org/files/pcn1.gif

http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/53391/1231412552/PCN2.gif

[vienna]

stop fucking around get a grip with this b4 they own you!!!

just conditionally accept it on demand of a bill in accordance with the bills of exchange act of 1882.

and the contract which made you liable to pay the bill in the first place.

.... if you dont do this you may get owned.....

go to thinkfreeforums.org and look up united kingdom ,,,parking notice started by me bones228...

i havnt heard anymore since the 16th dec 08...

dont play the game of court action etc !!!! also read the office of fair trading guidlines .

(oh yer sumone made a comment as to hide ya car!!!! lol they use ANPR now so they will find it parked round the corner....)

hi bones could you post that here too (or just relevant part) - I can't get on that site (maybe just cut and paste the wording)

the advantage with the Icke forum is people can view it without registering and threads appear on google searches - so it disseminates the info wider

cheers matey

[januspolanski]

lol they use ANPR now so they will find it parked round the corner

whats ANPR?

[number_6]

whats ANPR?

Automatic number plate recognition.
The reason I said keep your car hidden is that they will clamp it wherever it is seen parked up.

[number_6]

I would suggest that there is a flaw in the template letter. It states that "you have made allegations of criminal conduct against me" I would disagree. Islington and most other Councils now operate under a scheme that is called "decriminalised parking enforcement". There is no allegation of any criminal conduct.

[number_6]

i havnt heard anymore since the 16th dec 08...

But this is a very short space of time in the world of parking enforcement. Perhaps if you have heard nothing in six months, then that is a different matter.
As an aside, if indeed the council have accepted your representations and cancelled the ticket, they are lawfully obliged to inform you that the representation has been accepted.

[bones]

But this is a very short space of time in the world of parking enforcement. Perhaps if you have heard nothing in six months, then that is a different matter.
As an aside, if indeed the council have accepted your representations and cancelled the ticket, they are lawfully obliged to inform you that the representation has been accepted.

my notice has been goig on since july 08. i asked for whars happening on thr 16th dec in a notice of discharge.
thats over 2 months ago.

if you read all my replies posted on thinkfree forums youll see i owned em.
every notice of mine was dishonoured and everyone of theres was honered.

that make me far more honourable and respected. im confident that 2 months without even a reply to my notices makes it certain that its been cancelled.
ill resend another notice for clarification and ill see what happens then.

[number_6]

But what often happens (and I hope this isn't the situation in your case) is that the council play dirty. They "forget" to send out a Notice of Rejection to your representation, then the subsequent Charge certificate gets "lost in the post" and then if lucky many months later the driver receives an Order for Recovery from the TEC at Northampton, thinking all the time it had been settled. Sometimes this order doesn't materialise either, and it may be a year later that a bailiff arrives on your doorstep waving his warrant from TEC. This is very common.

[bones]

But what often happens (and I hope this isn't the situation in your case) is that the council play dirty. They "forget" to send out a Notice of Rejection to your representation, then the subsequent Charge certificate gets "lost in the post" and then if lucky many months later the driver receives an Order for Recovery from the TEC at Northampton, thinking all the time it had been settled. Sometimes this order doesn't materialise either, and it may be a year later that a bailiff arrives on your doorstep waving his warrant from TEC. This is very common.

interesting theory number 6. i will add that any further notices to me must be recorded delivery ... i must admit our council here in lincs are quite dishonest and i wouldnt put it past em on what ya saying.

hummmmmmmm

[miked]

Hi all

As I understand it (please forgive me if I am wrong), is that it will be an agent of the DVLA that clamps your car. They have a LAWFUL right to do this as it is LAWFULLY their property.

I suggest sending a NoU and CoR to the DVLA claiming the car as your own and wait to see if they claim otherwise. May I also suggest that you all start engaging your local police force before any action takes place and make it clear to them that you are taking back full control of your life, you are honest and honourable and that you are working for the best interest for your community, the human race in general and every fucking thing that may or may not exsist in this amazing unfathomable universe!

When a state agent then acts unlawfully you can ask for their help! I quite like the idea of asking my local Bobby to come and remove and Unlawfull clamp! Which it will be if you have an uncontested claim of right.

Hope this is a help!

Peace and love always

Mike D

[makeithappen]

This is the latest letter I have sent. I have yet to find a reply in my post box.

I have some questions. If I do not have a reply back inside 3 days, do I need to send another Notice?

I have used my name in lower case in each of the letters, they have not, how important is this?

So this was the letter.

London Borough of Merton Authority appears to have instructed you to recover PARKING TICKET and I am receipt of your document of 24 January 2009.
This notice directs that you are not being given entry to my home or to levy goods contained within. This notice revokes your entitlement to charge a Walking Possessions fee and an Attending to Remove fee. Please be advised that if your fees are found to contradict prescribed regulations namely Schedule 1 of the Enforcement of Road Traffic Debts (Certificated Bailiffs)(amended 2003) Regulations 1993, you may be liable for criminal prosecution under section 1 to 5 of Fraud Act 2006, and I will automatically file a Form 4 complaint at the certificating court.
I continue to seek clarification so that I may act according to the law.
I continue to conditionally accept your offer to pay £666.66, upon proof of claim that there exists a signed two party contract between us, and that if you can prove that said contract exists, you make presentation of a bill of exchange for the aforementioned amount.
Failure to accept this offer to clarify and to do so completely and in good faith within 3 days will be deemed by all parties to mean you and your principal or other parties abandon all demands upon me.

Proof and presentation must be sent via registered mail to:
[address]

No later than THREE (3) days from the date of receipt as dated by way of Royal Mail recorded delivery service. Further demands for payment thereafter by you or any third parties will be seen as a breach of Section 1 of The Protection from Harassment Act 1997 if you fall into dishonour by failing to respond within the three days.
Please be advised it is not a "criminal offence" for me to deny a bailiff entry to my property, if a bailiff threatens me with getting a locksmith without a levy or tries to break & enter my home, I will automatically make a complaint to the police and the bailiff may receive a criminal record and will not be allowed to continue trading as a certificated bailiff.
This document is delivered by Royal Mail and I deem it to be served on you by the ordinary course of post in the meaning of Section 7 of the Interpretation Act 1978 and therefore your responsibility and it's in your own interests this letter is handed to the relevant person within your organisation.
Sincerely and without ill will, vexation or frivolity

[number_6]

This is the latest letter I have sent. I have yet to find a reply in my post box.

I have some questions. If I do not have a reply back inside 3 days, do I need to send another Notice?

I have used my name in lower case in each of the letters, they have not, how important is this?

So this was the letter.

London Borough of Merton Authority appears to have instructed you to recover PARKING TICKET and I am receipt of your document of 24 January 2009.
This notice directs that you are not being given entry to my home or to levy goods contained within. This notice revokes your entitlement to charge a Walking Possessions fee and an Attending to Remove fee. Please be advised that if your fees are found to contradict prescribed regulations namely Schedule 1 of the Enforcement of Road Traffic Debts (Certificated Bailiffs)(amended 2003) Regulations 1993, you may be liable for criminal prosecution under section 1 to 5 of Fraud Act 2006, and I will automatically file a Form 4 complaint at the certificating court.
I continue to seek clarification so that I may act according to the law.
I continue to conditionally accept your offer to pay £666.66, upon proof of claim that there exists a signed two party contract between us, and that if you can prove that said contract exists, you make presentation of a bill of exchange for the aforementioned amount.
Failure to accept this offer to clarify and to do so completely and in good faith within 3 days will be deemed by all parties to mean you and your principal or other parties abandon all demands upon me.

Proof and presentation must be sent via registered mail to:
[address]

No later than THREE (3) days from the date of receipt as dated by way of Royal Mail recorded delivery service. Further demands for payment thereafter by you or any third parties will be seen as a breach of Section 1 of The Protection from Harassment Act 1997 if you fall into dishonour by failing to respond within the three days.
Please be advised it is not a "criminal offence" for me to deny a bailiff entry to my property, if a bailiff threatens me with getting a locksmith without a levy or tries to break & enter my home, I will automatically make a complaint to the police and the bailiff may receive a criminal record and will not be allowed to continue trading as a certificated bailiff.
This document is delivered by Royal Mail and I deem it to be served on you by the ordinary course of post in the meaning of Section 7 of the Interpretation Act 1978 and therefore your responsibility and it's in your own interests this letter is handed to the relevant person within your organisation.
Sincerely and without ill will, vexation or frivolity

Have you received a Charge Certificate from the Council? Have you received any paperwork from TEC at Northampton with an Order for Recovery? Who is the bailiff company who have been in contact? Have you checked if they are certified bailiffs or are they just a debt collection agency?

[girlgye]

"But what often happens (and I hope this isn't the situation in your case) is that the council play dirty. They "forget" to send out a Notice of Rejection to your representation, then the subsequent Charge certificate gets "lost in the post" and then if lucky many months later the driver receives an Order for Recovery from the TEC at Northampton, thinking all the time it had been settled. Sometimes this order doesn't materialise either, and it may be a year later that a bailiff arrives on your doorstep waving his warrant from TEC. This is very common. "
__________________

I agree No6. This has happened to me. No notice of any court hearing where I can represent myself either. Surely the sending signed letters means you are getting into a contract wrangle with them. Isn't it better just to serve a Notice on them?

[yozhik]

I agree No6. This has happened to me. No notice of any court hearing where I can represent myself either. Surely the sending signed letters means you are getting into a contract wrangle with them. Isn't it better just to serve a Notice on them?

I hate to be picky ... but something strikes me as important. :)
You can not "represent" yourself. Why would you need to?

You would present yourself ... wouldn't you?
Maybe you would be representing YOU ... but this is a point I believe we all need to understand fully and to also comprehend the significance and implications.

For example, in my research notes I have the following;
"it is very important that PRIOR to your appearance, you inform the court that your will be making a "special appearance" ... not a general appearance."

I have not fleshed out the notation with further research; I will come back to it ... but it is obviously significant.

Peace and respect.


.

[number_6]

You would present yourself ... wouldn't you?
Maybe you would be representing YOU ... but this is a point I believe we all need to understand fully and to also comprehend the significance and implications.

For example, in my research notes I have the following;
"it is very important that PRIOR to your appearance, you inform the court that your will be making a "special appearance" ... not a general appearance."
.

I think you should be aware that Merton Council operate a decriminalised parking schem under the Traffic Management Act 2004. Your posting about Court appearances is irrelevant as there is no provision to appear in Court under this scheme.

[miked]

Just a thought

What are council notice boards for? Could you display your notices to them publicly on these boards and ask them to post their replies here also?

Mike

[number_6]

Just a thought

What are council notice boards for? Could you display your notices to them publicly on these boards and ask them to post their replies here also?

Mike

Of course you can. However, that will not stop them in attempting to recover the Charge. You can rest assured that the bailiffs will be clamping your car.

[makeithappen]

Have you received a Charge Certificate from the Council? Have you received any paperwork from TEC at Northampton with an Order for Recovery? Who is the bailiff company who have been in contact? Have you checked if they are certified bailiffs or are they just a debt collection agency?

Have you received a Charge Certificate from the Council?
NO
Have you received any paperwork from TEC at Northampton with an Order for Recovery?
Yes
Who is the bailiff company who have been in contact?
Merton Bailiff Services - http://www.merton.gov.uk/council/counciltax/bailiffs.htm
Have you checked if they are certified bailiffs or are they just a debt collection agency?
No. Just googled how to do this and it does not look very clear.

Edit. Thanks for the reply :)

[outelligent]

You can rest assured that the bailiffs will be clamping your car.
This is worth reading if anyone thinks there about to get clamped;
http://www.tpuc.org/node/178



makeithappen, I would say your letter is well written and includes all the relevant info, however don't expect them give up now your in the system.

[pleasuredome]

this is what i have back from the bailiff services following the above letter. The letter was not delivered by recorded postage, also was dated 24th Jan. Stamped 26th Jan and as you can see demands action from me on 28th. Today. The post has just arrived, it was sent 2nd class.

So this is the reply. Any advice will be great.

Dear Sir / Madam (They did not use a name)

Re: Road Traffic owing to LB of Merton - Road Traffic
Amount Outstanding £166.00

I refer to your letter dated January 22 2009 regarding my offices involvement in collection an unpaid penalty charge.
We act upon instruction from Merton Councils parking department and are authorised to do so under court warrant.
The details that have been passed to my office have been provided to you under separate cover previously, however I list the offence details.
The notice was issued for parking in a restricted street, Crown Lane Morden Surrey on April 16 2008.
Notices regarding this would have been server by the parking department under separate cover and my office has now issued you with the first statutory letter.
The position now is that if you do not pay the stated amount by Wednesday January 29 2009 your file will be allocated to a bailiff who in turn will collect this balance together with certain feed and charged. I hope my response clearly explains the position for you.

Tours faithfully,

Merton Bailiff Services.

how far down the road has this gone? did you ignore the council's FPNs?

[makeithappen]

how far down the road has this gone? did you ignore the council's FPNs?
Never received them nor the ticket. I live in Norfolk and have no idea where Morden is. Now I get a paper from Northampton, confused about what to do, I now have these letters from the bailiffs.

[pleasuredome]

Never received them nor the ticket. I live in Norfolk and have no idea where Morden is. Now I get a paper from Northampton, confused about what to do, I now have these letters from the bailiffs.

i would have thought they would need some proof that notice had been served on you. i'd serve a notice on the council saying such, that you had never been served notice, and asking them if they believe you have violated a regulation, to serve notice on you properly. and if they cannot do it, they agree to quash the matter.

anybody else think the same way?

[number_6]

Have you received a Charge Certificate from the Council?
NO
Have you received any paperwork from TEC at Northampton with an Order for Recovery?
Yes
Who is the bailiff company who have been in contact?
Merton Bailiff Services - http://www.merton.gov.uk/council/counciltax/bailiffs.htm
Have you checked if they are certified bailiffs or are they just a debt collection agency?
No. Just googled how to do this and it does not look very clear.

Edit. Thanks for the reply :)

Ok. As this has gone to TEC you'd better act fast. TEC would have sent you instructions on how to do a statutory declaration, with a stat dec form. Have you sworn the stat dec? If not, I advise you go to http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30 and start your own thread.

[makeithappen]

Ok. As this has gone to TEC you'd better act fast. TEC would have sent you instructions on how to do a statutory declaration, with a stat dec form. Have you sworn the stat dec? If not, I advise you go to http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30 and start your own thread.

thanks for the info. I have just done that.

[miked]

For those with Bailifs knocking at the door I will just tell you how I dealt with my CSA bailif.

He phoned yesterday, I was very polite, told him I was studying the Law and I knew my rights. He just kept saying I will have to come round just 4 a chat. I politely informed him that this would be a waste of time as I will not even open the door to him. Then I started with "send me a copy of the two party contract with a bil...."

Ok, he said, I will send it back to the CSA but their next action will be to take me to court and which point I informed him that I am sure they will only send me an invitation to their party!

Anyway, he want be coming round my house!

Take it easy dudes!!

Mike
Check the film at the bottom of this page

http://www.tpuc.org/node?page=2

[comma berenices]

Islington council sent me a reply to my letter regarding my son's PCN.
It's been cancelled:) and they are sorry for any inconveinience caused.
I used the letter on the TPUC site.
My son's ticket was dated last september and had gone up to £120.
The loophole has not been closed,the 1688/9 bill of rights has never been repealed and as i understand it cannot be.
There is a thread on the TPUC site to this affect,backed up by a letter from parliment.

[dark skies]

not a happy bunny atm

just before xmas the wife got a parking ticket in Birmingham, and paid it at the discounted rate by cheque the day after, except she posted it in cornwall as she was away working, anyway this morning I gets 2 letters from birmingham cit council one the Notice To Owner and the other the cheque that my wife had posted and a letter saying it wasnt enough as they had recieved the cheque too late for the discount ,now given that the cheque looked like it had either been

a caught in a royal mail sorting machine in the envelope and had benn stuck inthere for a while

or

b the council are bunch theiving gits and screwed it up themselves and then sent it back saying it was sent too late so they can claim the full amount

anyone got any ideas on how we should deal with this????

[pleasuredome]

not a happy bunny atm

just before xmas the wife got a parking ticket in Birmingham, and paid it at the discounted rate by cheque the day after, except she posted it in cornwall as she was away working, anyway this morning I gets 2 letters from birmingham cit council one the Notice To Owner and the other the cheque that my wife had posted and a letter saying it wasnt enough as they had recieved the cheque too late for the discount ,now given that the cheque looked like it had either been

a caught in a royal mail sorting machine in the envelope and had benn stuck inthere for a while

or

b the council are bunch theiving gits and screwed it up themselves and then sent it back saying it was sent too late so they can claim the full amount

anyone got any ideas on how we should deal with this????

i doubt they can use royal mail's incompetence as an excuse. did you keep a receipt of postage? if so, just appeal the decision.

[sindakit]

Just to update everyone, since this threads still alive.

I sent a letter, similar to the one pleasuredome posted up, asking for a bill of exchange and a two party signed contract and gave them 5 working days to respond. Sent via recorded delivery.

Yet to hear a reply. So i'm guessing its been squashed. If not they have dishonored my notice leaving me feeling good about it :P

[pleasuredome]

Just to update everyone, since this threads still alive.

I sent a letter, similar to the one pleasuredome posted up, asking for a bill of exchange and a two party signed contract and gave them 5 working days to respond. Sent via recorded delivery.

Yet to hear a reply. So i'm guessing its been squashed. If not they have dishonored my notice leaving me feeling good about it :P

lol excellent. yep i very much doubt you will hear anything back if its very similar to the one i posted.