Fluoride Pineal Gland THEORY

[jjeanjeane]

[QUOTE=jjeanjeane;1059935613]Just to say its all about vibrations coupled with mudras which seem to be the key to actvate you! Iv done it and im not a person whos spent years n years of practicing meditaion visualisations etc etc...................

[passerbye999]

It sounds interesting. Like I said I was not trying to invalidate your experience and I thank you for your answers. For me in my training it is more of a sensory thing. I sense in a different way through the upper dan tian(third eye). My shen(spirit or consciousness) sits there. It allows me to sense and follow the Tao within me and outside of me. A kind of connection with heaven and earth with me in the middle.

Instead of raising the kundalini to the third eye and simply energizing it there and activating the third eye to view I circulate the chi around the geater heavenly circle. Around the torso so after i have energized the third eye I move the energy back down the front of the body to the lower dan tian(elixir field).

I also use a method i did not talk about in my "relinquishing the I" thread where the chi is sent directly up the thrusting vessel from TCM(Traditional Chinese Medicine)which is like the kundalini route where the shen or third eye is nourished with original essence(jing). This heightens consciousness and allows me to sense at a higher level bringing out psychic phenomena.

The phenomena usually manifests itself as empathy but sometimes a weird form of telepathy and intuition. I do see visions but I call them daydreams for they are of the mind. This whole experience is of the mind. So the visions must be interpreted as dreams when I practice contemplation meditation.

The circle you see is interesting to me because I do view these visions through one that sounds similar sometimes when I practice Wu shin (No mind) meditation one forms and weird visions like I said appear. I pay no mind to them though and let them pass and like I said sometimes I will contemplate on them at a later time if they interest me enough.

To me Taoist Alchemy and Ch'an (zen) which are one and the same are more about cultivation,circulation, replenishment,nourishing and nurturing through meditation and contemplation. I practice for health, wellness and longevity. So the psychic phenomena happen but I try to keep balance and take for what it is as it is.

Personaly and no offence to you kundalini is a way not the way and it is a limited way. All your enery goes out through your head so all you are really doing is heating up the atmoshere with your vital energy. It does work for what it does but many adepts at kundalini give it up for Taoist Yoga when they are introduced to it. Most Taoist Alchemists that are adepts will admit their foundation or beginning was in kundalini but they left for the reasons I stated earlier.

Kundalini is an empty practice that after a while still leaves the adept wanting more that is not there to be recieved by kundalini. I will recieve arguements for these last few paragraphs but they are the truth you can look it up on the web. There are many sites on Taoist alchemy and many of the adepts will admit this. Mantak Chia who is questionable in his Taoist Alchemy for I have seen lots of his stuff. Some is good lots of it is close but not quite there but anyway he started out in kundalini as did many of his adepts.

At least for all the bad press he gets he is practicing and teaching an advanced form of Taoist yoga. You know Taoist yoga is far older than Indian Yoga it is just not as well known in the west. Some of it is taught through martial arts schools. There are a few schools that do teach the complete system but not many.

Anyway it is cool you experience what you do and have gained the abilities that you have in such a profound way. It must be exciting for you it sounds so. I am simply suggesting go farther and complete the journey you have started. With such a base you could learn Taoist Alchemy quickly and complete or fill out your experience. The Chinese have a richer heritage that is for some reason passed over because of the wests intrigue with Indian practices.

Good luck to you though in whatever path you follow.

Peace:)

[jjeanjeane]

Hi,just to say i havent realy followed & realy studied in depth any of the practices its just I first did a little Kundalini type med & bang it started & has'nt stopped yet.The ability to move all energy around and outside the body comes as easy to me as breathing plus i actualy see it all billowing streaming in etc etc! I just know how to do all this its as though when they take hold of my hands they show me in sigal type form & bang its streaming in no breathing exercises nothing! iv done a few but realy dont have to.It seems im being taught for what reason i dont know but its for real im sitting here typing within a seething mass of streaming energy etc etc i can just feel see it play with it its just crazy but wonderous and all this within one year of trying a little Kundalini! Any ideas why this is happening to me and to what end! I love it all its just mind blowing!

[jjeanjeane]

[QUOTE=jjeanjeane;1059935912] Just to say chakra wise Im lit up & spinning like a top!

[jjeanjeane]

In your meditation practices have you gained the ability to stream the liquid white light around & inside yourself and if so would you say its linked to the Kabala/ Merkaba! I only ask this as this also is a trait i seem to have mastered, well been showed! jj

[passerbye999]

In your meditation practices have you gained the ability to stream the liquid white light around & inside yourself and if so would you say its linked to the Kabala/ Merkaba! I only ask this as this also is a trait i seem to have mastered, well been showed! jj

We call it chi and some people do naturally with a sense of simple sensitivety have the ability to see and feel it more than others. I don't need to do breathing exersizes while circulating the chi either but they do add to the health and wellness aspect of the experience. Sort of filling it out. like i said it is all of the mind, it's perception and awareness. So you can play with it etc. easily once you have that perception and awareness.

Like I said some people pick it up naturally. The circulation exersizes have a purpose of refining the energy or kundalini or chi and create a greater focus to control it and then use it for any purpose you desire within the realm of the phenomena. There are resevoirs and meridians that the energy can stagnate in and some that become depleted. The idea is to circulate and reguvinate these areas so that you can live a longer healthier life.

I call it " The way to longevity". It can also be used in self defense, or like magic. Depends on the focus and intent of the mind when circulating it. The energy also super charges the pineal gland allowing it to release more melatonin by enhancing the seratonin excretion. At least that has become my understanding by blending Taoist alchemy and TCM with western medicine.

I have been practicing for 25 yrs and in self defense can take terrible blows without bruising and cause people to crumple or fly away with the slightest touch as if by magic. I can break patio bricks with a slight touch as well.
I heal myself I haven't been sick froms colds and flus and the like for that whole time. I don't get physically sick though I have had 5 manias, I think it was kundalini syndrome or chi deviation if you like same thing. I really don't believe i am bi polar though the shrinks say i am. I had practiced enlightenment for 10 years before my first experience and it was more of a spiritual trip than anything else they all were.

I call it the price you pay to really practice enlightenment were enlightenment is simply seeing into ones real nature and practicing life in that state of mind. You play with fire you get burned until you eventually learn all about fire and give it it proper respect as you play with it.

Once your chakras or dan tians same thing are opened that is only a start you have to learn to energize and circulate the energy through them and into them. It happens naturally anyway but with yoga , kundalini or taoist, you can cultivate it and nurture it. The taoists call the kundalini the immortal embryo or fetus, it is a dragons egg that needs to be nurtured and natured until maturity. You grow a spiritual dragon within you.

You are the master of it do not let it master you or you will get kundalini syndrome but it is not so bad you learn alot and with a strong will you can conquer it and make it your slave by making it your ally. It has a sentience all its own. It can become an angel or a demon within you depending on what it wants to teach you. It has an intelligence and will of it's own but remember it is still you.

Having said all that I am bi polar for I am two but I am one. So are you so is everyone. Let me know what you think about what i have said. You can talk to it you know, it answers in its own way, you'll know.


Peace:)

[jjeanjeane]

Brilliant!I appreciate what you have told me. As for the Kundalini awakening when it first started my body jerked around like crazy,I heard lots of sounds etc etc etc but i found that rather than letting fear get in the way! I looked upon it all with wonder and amazement,I can totaly understand why a Kundalini awakening could cause one serious mental issues as its alot to take mentally and physically but i beleive fear holds one back so to control fear you move ahead more quickly as i have!Just as you have said realy. The one thing im at a loss to understand is who or what is it! that moves my arms /hands into these rather intricate sigals etc! Is it a higher self or what takes full control of my movements am i being taught or is it something that resides in us all but we just need a re-cap to access & remember the feelings of skills lost in time ... jj

[passerbye999]

Good question. Higher self is a good term. The Chinese call it Shen. The Indians call it Kundalini. Any way you look at it it is a form of higher self that originates in the abdomen. Like water it has three states. The three states form a consciousness. The original state is called Jing in Chinese or essence, you could think of it like plasma it is formed from sexual essence. Then there is Chi or energy, the same energy that you think of in physics. Then there is Shen or spirit the ethereal consciousness. All three together form Kundalini or Shen meaning Soul.

It is part of us all and in us all , it is us all. Think about it where does our inner voice come from? Very few people think about that. Where to these electrically charged waves of energy that come like seizures come from? Where do psychic abilities come from? They all come from this. Listen to the still small voice the Jews say. What of the conscience? All these things people accept but few question thier origins.

This is a very enjoyable talk I am having with you. One of the best since I entered the site. We are really hitting the meat and potatoes of this subject so to speak. I have refrained from speaking on this subject until now. The words are just flowing. Very seldom do I share this stuff not even with my students no one asks or wants to talk about it.

Your right though conquering your fear is very important and learning to discern spirits is another. Spirits are tricky and pretend to be this higher self until you become intimate with yourself then they can not fool you. Some people can become possessed and not even realize it thinking it is a kundalini rising. I have other things i would like to say but I will leave it at be careful and always test the spirit. You do not want to be channeling thinking you are feeling the higher self you know what I mean?

People who do not practice discernment are playing with fire. Lots of adepts do it on purpose and they are fools in my opinion. Spirits have nothing to offer to the living, they are simply users. Any that would have something to offer have passed on. There is the Holy Spirit and the Tao though they are a different story and you will definately know it when it is them.


Peace:)

[dunadan]

Good question. Higher self is a good term. The Chinese call it Shen. The Indians call it Kundalini. Any way you look at it it is a form of higher self that originates in the abdomen. Like water it has three states. The three states form a consciousness. The original state is called Jing in Chinese or essence, you could think of it like plasma it is formed from sexual essence. Then there is Chi or energy, the same energy that you think of in physics. Then there is Shen or spirit the ethereal consciousness. All three together form Kundalini or Shen meaning Soul.

It is part of us all and in us all , it is us all. Think about it where does our inner voice come from? Very few people think about that. Where to these electrically charged waves of energy that come like seizures come from? Where do psychic abilities come from? They all come from this. Listen to the still small voice the Jews say. What of the conscience? All these things people accept but few question thier origins.

This is a very enjoyable talk I am having with you. One of the best since I entered the site. We are really hitting the meat and potatoes of this subject so to speak. I have refrained from speaking on this subject until now. The words are just flowing. Very seldom do I share this stuff not even with my students no one asks or wants to talk about it.

Your right though conquering your fear is very important and learning to discern spirits is another. Spirits are tricky and pretend to be this higher self until you become intimate with yourself then they can not fool you. Some people can become possessed and not even realize it thinking it is a kundalini rising. I have other things i would like to say but I will leave it at be careful and always test the spirit. You do not want to be channeling thinking you are feeling the higher self you know what I mean?

People who do not practice discernment are playing with fire. Lots of adepts do it on purpose and they are fools in my opinion. Spirits have nothing to offer to the living, they are simply users. Any that would have something to offer have passed on. There is the Holy Spirit and the Tao though they are a different story and you will definately know it when it is them.


Peace:)

V'Interesting points......

I agree with you on most aspects....and yet......

If I encounter a 'spirit' or depending upon your point of view a 'lost soul' etc..
I help to move them on, when I encounter them or when they have 'attached' themselves to others/possess them etc. And there is always learning to be experienced from all life forces, yet the problem lies in those who see these spirits as 'god' or 'gods' or as all knowing etc.etc. - those whom summon them et al. - when, of course these 'entities', are not god/gods.....yet sometimes 'spirits' are users because they have no choice, some are, in effect, lost and looking for sustaince and have little choice in the matter (so they believe) at times, it is because their human ego/personality has been carried with them, they have forgotten who/what they really are and they still believe that e.g. they are human (even though they are in a different state of being) just because a 'dense' soul's body dies, does not automatically infer enlightenement for that soul......words are not always adequate to describe such things....

I believe that we are spirits having a human experience and not humans having a spiritual experience.

There is the Source and one's higher self, which contains - nearly, if not all - that one needs to know......yet the Source is everything, so learning comes, at times, from all avenues and indeed from the strangest of beings and places, it is the craft of using and discerning/filtering such learning that the intitiate must learn to do and to do well if truth is sought......

Shalom.

:)

[jjeanjeane]

Thankyou again! I appreciate your advice & understanding of the situation iv <or been> placed myself in! which is just getting more & more wonderous as each day passes! This is truly a journey to something realy special and im in a total flux of wonderment...Il keep you updated on my journey ....... Many thanks jj

[jjeanjeane]

Id just like to clarify on a point you make by saying that id know if they are the true spirit etc... well i wont say alot on this quite yet, but iv had a few visions plus heard spoken word & it was very intence indeed, but the strange thing was that i just felt the colour that being gold on one occasion & blue just a few days ago! Now iv already said iv not studied all that is on meditation practices etc etc.. It was my curiosity that took me into the Kundalini which to date i find just incredible but i find it strange that i have been able to go so far without realy donig anything! just a little calming the mind and a little vibrational sounding thats all. Its all being done for me or by my higher self! it just keeps activating more and more. I realy dont have to do anything i can be watching tv yet my arms & hands are free forming sigals etc etc & energy is still streaming into me! How is this? jj

[pipsicle]

Fears over fluoride plans

by JAMES CHAPMAN, Daily Mail


Fear: health risks of added fluoride are not clear

Ministers have triggered a major health row by unveiling plans to allow fluoride to be added to all drinking water in England and Wales.

Water companies will be forced to add fluoride if local health authorities order it, despite controversy over the long-term effects on health, the Government confirmed.

The authorities will have to demonstrate that the local population broadly supports such a move, :rolleyes: which is designed to reduce dental decay. :rolleyes:

But campaigners said they feared fluoridation would be given the green light in many parts of the country after minimal public consultation.

The policy will infuriate environmentalists and consumer groups.

Some believe fluoridation has links to cancer, Down's syndrome, infant mortality and bone damage. :eek:

Up to half of those drinking fluoridated water also suffer 'dental fluorosis' - a mottling of the teeth thought to be caused by its effects. :eek:

However, studies have shown conclusively that fluoride - similar to an ingredient in many toothpastes - cuts the amount of tooth decay in children by strengthening the enamel in growing teeth. :rolleyes:

About one in ten people in Britain drink fluoridated water, with some water companies adding it and others refusing to.

Amendments to the Water Bill will shift responsibility for deciding to treat water away from the companies to regional strategic health authorities.

Campaigners said they would be much more likely to agree to add fluoride. :mad:

Public health minister Melanie Johnson told MPs that schemes would go ahead only after wide-ranging consultations 'and the majority of the population have indicated that they are in favour'. :rolleyes:

She said large chunks of the country - 'roughly from Hartlepool down to Essex' - had naturally-occurring fluoride in the water.

Another five million people in areas such as Birmingham had fluoridated supplies.

The NHS Centre for Reviews and Dissemination found no evidence of a negative effect on health with fluoridation.:rolleyes:

But Jane Jones, campaign director of the National Pure Water Association, said: ' Fluoridation is indiscriminate mass medication.

' People have an absolute right to determine for themselves what they will and will not put into their bodies. This right is denied when medicine is added to the public drinking water supply.'

[passerbye999]

V'Interesting points......

I agree with you on most aspects....and yet......

If I encounter a 'spirit' or depending upon your point of view a 'lost soul' etc..
I help to move them on, when I encounter them or when they have 'attached' themselves to others/possess them etc. And there is always learning to be experienced from all life forces, yet the problem lies in those who see these spirits as 'god' or 'gods' or as all knowing etc.etc. - those whom summon them et al. - when, of course these 'entities', are not god/gods.....yet sometimes 'spirits' are users because they have no choice, some are, in effect, lost and looking for sustaince and have little choice in the matter (so they believe) at times, it is because their human ego/personality has been carried with them, they have forgotten who/what they really are and they still believe that e.g. they are human (even though they are in a different state of being) just because a 'dense' soul's body dies, does not automatically infer enlightenement for that soul......words are not always adequate to describe such things....

I believe that we are spirits having a human experience and not humans having a spiritual experience.

There is the Source and one's higher self, which contains - nearly, if not all - that one needs to know......yet the Source is everything, so learning comes, at times, from all avenues and indeed from the strangest of beings and places, it is the craft of using and discerning/filtering such learning that the intitiate must learn to do and to do well if truth is sought......

Shalom.

:)

Some good points you have brought up. I do agree with you as well this is some of the stuff I wasn't going to go into. I like how you mention the Source very good word. Helping a spirit is different than letting it inhabit your body or draw energy off you some do have a gift to do this, act as a guide.
God's Peace to you as well.:D

[passerbye999]

Id just like to clarify on a point you make by saying that id know if they are the true spirit etc... well i wont say alot on this quite yet, but iv had a few visions plus heard spoken word & it was very intence indeed, but the strange thing was that i just felt the colour that being gold on one occasion & blue just a few days ago! Now iv already said iv not studied all that is on meditation practices etc etc.. It was my curiosity that took me into the Kundalini which to date i find just incredible but i find it strange that i have been able to go so far without realy donig anything! just a little calming the mind and a little vibrational sounding thats all. Its all being done for me or by my higher self! it just keeps activating more and more. I realy dont have to do anything i can be watching tv yet my arms & hands are free forming sigals etc etc & energy is still streaming into me! How is this? jj

It is all in your perception and sensitivity to it. It may continue for awhile, it last for months in some people before it settles down, sometimes days it all depends. If you want it to settle down you need to focus on circulating and calming the energy. Focus on moving it to the lower abdomen. If you wish it to run its course let it. Just remember you are in control if you so desire to exersize that control. If it gets to out of control and you can not stop it seek a good teacher they will help you out. Some things need a personal touch that the internet cannot provide. ;)

I suggest you do that anyway you have a natural talent that would help you attain maximum benefits.:)

Peace

[jjeanjeane]

Thankyou again!

[dunadan]

Some good points you have brought up. I do agree with you as well this is some of the stuff I wasn't going to go into. I like how you mention the Source very good word. Helping a spirit is different than letting it inhabit your body or draw energy off you some do have a gift to do this, act as a guide.
God's Peace to you as well.:D

Thank you, I agree:)

I wanted to let others know this......I use a very specific method of moving such on.

There seems to be two types of 'possession', type one is 'attachement' (similar to someone following you/one around/stalking even), type two, is 'possession', as - sort of - portrayed in the movies etc., I have seen and dealt with both types.

The last real 'possession' that I dealt with the person's face changed shape and this lady kept refering to evil being around her, in her, yet to use the type of technique as often seen on TV - with all of the fire and brimstone type of wording - would only have made matters worse, i.e. made the human iller and the 'spirit' more determined to hang on in there.....I do my very best to see such entities as; 'being further away from the Source than e.g you and I (perhaps even with their back to the Source, so to speak)'. I realise that I maybe splitting hairs and people/spirits/entities have comitted some truely evil acts, yet we are all of Source of the Source. Therefore, it is my belief, that nothing is completely/truely beyond redemption.

There are truely enlightened souls/spirits/entities who can help one in this work, in fact, the great work, yet it takes time to build trusting relationships as with those here on, for want of a better phrase, the 'earth plane'.

In some alchemistical work, when at the round table, one's guides are hooded/covered until such a time as it is right for them to reveal themselves, this is so that one does not project ones ego onto such beings, then the practioner can truely know that such beings are real and who they claim to be etc......

I hope this helps those who have started upon the path and whom maybe experiencing the honeymoon period (which is a wonderful and wonderous time) yet the PATH is a long a twisting road and one must be prepared.

Love and light to you all.

Dunadan:)

[dunadan]

It is all in your perception and sensitivity to it. It may continue for awhile, it last for months in some people before it settles down, sometimes days it all depends. If you want it to settle down you need to focus on circulating and calming the energy. Focus on moving it to the lower abdomen. If you wish it to run its course let it. Just remember you are in control if you so desire to exersize that control. If it gets to out of control and you can not stop it seek a good teacher they will help you out. Some things need a personal touch that the internet cannot provide. ;)

I suggest you do that anyway you have a natural talent that would help you attain maximum benefits.:)

Peace

Hi,

Without wishing to interupt.

I agree fully:)

One can though focus on the breath and of the slowing of the breath, something which I was taught - and then mislaid for a while :)- practice yogic/yoga breathing and be in the breath, focus on it, slow ones self and ones mind, be in the moment of the breath......and look for a trustworthy master....learn to dowse/use kinesiology so as to seek the truth of a person or situation - powerful tools both so as to devine and ascertain the truth of any given situation.....

Shalom

Dunadan:)

[dunadan]

Fears over fluoride plans

by JAMES CHAPMAN, Daily Mail


Fear: health risks of added fluoride are not clear

Ministers have triggered a major health row by unveiling plans to allow fluoride to be added to all drinking water in England and Wales.

Water companies will be forced to add fluoride if local health authorities order it, despite controversy over the long-term effects on health, the Government confirmed.

The authorities will have to demonstrate that the local population broadly supports such a move, :rolleyes: which is designed to reduce dental decay. :rolleyes:

But campaigners said they feared fluoridation would be given the green light in many parts of the country after minimal public consultation.

The policy will infuriate environmentalists and consumer groups.

Some believe fluoridation has links to cancer, Down's syndrome, infant mortality and bone damage. :eek:

Up to half of those drinking fluoridated water also suffer 'dental fluorosis' - a mottling of the teeth thought to be caused by its effects. :eek:

However, studies have shown conclusively that fluoride - similar to an ingredient in many toothpastes - cuts the amount of tooth decay in children by strengthening the enamel in growing teeth. :rolleyes:

About one in ten people in Britain drink fluoridated water, with some water companies adding it and others refusing to.

Amendments to the Water Bill will shift responsibility for deciding to treat water away from the companies to regional strategic health authorities.

Campaigners said they would be much more likely to agree to add fluoride. :mad:

Public health minister Melanie Johnson told MPs that schemes would go ahead only after wide-ranging consultations 'and the majority of the population have indicated that they are in favour'. :rolleyes:

She said large chunks of the country - 'roughly from Hartlepool down to Essex' - had naturally-occurring fluoride in the water.

Another five million people in areas such as Birmingham had fluoridated supplies.

The NHS Centre for Reviews and Dissemination found no evidence of a negative effect on health with fluoridation.:rolleyes:

But Jane Jones, campaign director of the National Pure Water Association, said: ' Fluoridation is indiscriminate mass medication.

' People have an absolute right to determine for themselves what they will and will not put into their bodies. This right is denied when medicine is added to the public drinking water supply.'

Hi,

That is not nice:eek:.

That is why we use a Freshly Squeezed Water RO filter, so as to filter all such things out...

In short the people should be allowed to choose/to vote on such an issue.

My feeling, in the greater sense, is that TPTB know that there are many on the cusp of 'discovery' that there are, for want, once again, of a better phrase, 'indigo children' and an awakening, taking place, and TPTB want to help slow or stop such.....

Dunadan

[akana]

Is melatonin recommended for de-calcification of the pineal gland? Is it safe to take?

[sillybilly]

It's a nice theory but not everyone has flouride added. It seems therefore I only have me to blame for the way I am.
That said it's a load of tosh about public consultation. They have been trying for ages to get flouride into our local supply. The public clearly objects but still they persist. Here's an interesting quote from a local paper last year.
'The Strategic Health Authority can request that fluoride is added to the water supply, even if the majority of the public oppose it.'
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/8445140.Flouride_study_first_phase_should_be_done_ by_end_of_year/

[dunadan]

It's a nice theory but not everyone has flouride added. It seems therefore I only have me to blame for the way I am.
That said it's a load of tosh about public consultation. They have been trying for ages to get flouride into our local supply. The public clearly objects but still they persist. Here's an interesting quote from a local paper last year.
'The Strategic Health Authority can request that fluoride is added to the water supply, even if the majority of the public oppose it.'
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/8445140.Flouride_study_first_phase_should_be_done_ by_end_of_year/


Hi Great Post:eek:

It is the same with lots of similar issues....they keeping pushing/counting until they make the numbers add up (just like when Bush Jr got into power).

Late night votes, whatever it takes to get one over on the populus....

Democracy? There is no such thing!!

Keep safe and keep well:)

Dunadan:)

[pepsi78]

How long will it take to notice positive effects after stopping the usage of fluorized toothpaste?


Fluoride is just the start, you want to keep up your pineal in good condition you must give up everything, among this things are foods and drinks. It does not degrade just from flouride.

[bjornyvan]

Hi

I wonder: Has anyone been able to document the practical difference between a human with a normal pineal gland and a human with a calcified/F-ed up pineal gland? How much of this is still in the realm of speculation and how much is proven?

Isn't it also so that the pineal gland regulates excretion of melatonin (something to do with sleep and well-being) in everybody? How can we tell that the pineal gland isn't working like it should?

Calcification of the pineal gland is typical in adults.

Wikipedia: Pineal gland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm of course aware of the claim that the pineal gland "is the Third Eye" and I'm open to it.

[beldazar]

Hi

I wonder: Has anyone been able to document the practical difference between a human with a normal pineal gland and a human with a calcified/F-ed up pineal gland? How much of this is still in the realm of speculation and how much is proven?

Isn't it also so that the pineal gland regulates excretion of melatonin (something to do with sleep and well-being) in everybody? How can we tell that the pineal gland isn't working like it should?

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland

I'm of course aware of the claim that the pineal gland "is the Third Eye" and I'm open to it.

Well all I can suggest is kirlian photography which many think is a load of old rot.
I had one done a couple of years ago at a new age festival, he said my third eye was more open then the psychics at the event. I said it may have something to do with the mushrooms I had taken previously a few weeks before. :confused:

[personalit]

Fluoride is just the start, you want to keep up your pineal in good condition you must give up everything, among this things are foods and drinks. It does not degrade just from flouride.
Do you have any specific examples of such products besides from the most obvious ones? I really want to save my pineal gland.

[pepsi78]

Do you have any specific examples of such products besides from the most obvious ones? I really want to save my pineal gland.

Floride is toxic and can damage the pineal but think also about all that chlorine in the water.

I can only speak for my self, maybe it won't work for you.
But meat, diary products are the first to go, first phase. Don't think about doing it to save your pineal only, think about those animals and how they are tortured and killed so you can have your meat and diary products. When you come to a conclusion it will all fit into place doing something good "because you want to" will on another hand hold a benefit for your self. It's how things are constructed to work in the end.

If you manage to get past this first phase your are on the next one, there are many more coming your way and this is just a small step. If you are doing it artificial just to try and rip the benefits it will not work. I have seen greedy people for power and knowlege try to get and ripoff the rewards, it's not going to happen, all they got was jack ZERO.

But I also think everyone should have a try at it, a chance to change, to go for the first step and see where they land, if phase one can be embraced and there is acceptance then the road will open ahead.

I don't want to encourage people to try to take these steps, if you do not know what to do you will get sick and die.

I came to the conclusion that these things are not told, these things come natural in your walking life as you change for the better you follow the road involuntary, it's like a trip with stages in it. God has a plan for everyone :)

By far I'm no expert, and by what I have said in this post it is only a small opinion reflecting some of the things I believe.

[personalit]

Oki papi I found this link; http://theguidetorawfoods.blogspot.com/2010/03/foods-that-feed-pineal-gland.html

[pepsi78]

Oki papi I found this link; http://theguidetorawfoods.blogspot.com/2010/03/foods-that-feed-pineal-gland.html

The problem with this stuff is that there lots of sites saying different things.
Some are counter indicated in my view. Like for example lemon and lemonade is marked as an alcaline food, but we all know lemon is acidic, since it's self made out of citric acid.

Seaweed contains mercury and other heavy metals, bad for the pineal :) very very bad for it. All that detox for nothing if you go on such things.


Dark leafy greens are good to a point, your blood gets thicker from them since they contain vitamin K used for thickening the blood, too much of it and you develop high blood pressure. I too found leafy greens to be of aid but the problem is how to counter the backside effects.

You could be developing big blood cloths from this and have a heart attack if the blood cloth is very big, in fact smaller blood cloths are beneficial helping fixing the damaged veins, but very big ones can block the blood flow resulting in a heart attack, you also develop high blood pressure, you get stressed out over time from this, so you can't exagerate on dark leafy greens.