Masonic hall attacked in northern ireland

[ban freekmasons]

A rare occasion when the mass media particularly the BBC mention their controllers, the masons.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7837103.stm

MASONIC HALL ATTACKED IN NORTHERN IRELAND

A masonic hall in County Down has been damaged in an overnight arson attack, police have said. The hall in Corry Street, Newtownards, was broken into on Sunday night at about 2300 GMT.

A police spokeswoman said that thieves ransacked the building before setting it alight. Police have appealed to anyone who noticed suspicious activity in the area on Sunday evening to contact them.

[shansuke]

i wouldnt like the to be in them robbers shoes if they get caught,some if not most of the cops will be masons and will make sure they get the living shit kicked out of them,and handed a heavy sentence.

good on them tho,the masons are just gonna have to get used to the fact that folk aint gonna stand for secret little clubs in their comunity any more.

nothing stays secret for ever.

[grandsecretary]

... good on them tho,the masons are just gonna have to get used to the fact that folk aint gonna stand for secret little clubs in their comunity any more.

nothing stays secret for ever.

So you approve of arson do you?

Does that mean that I can come round to your house and you will allow me to ransack it, steal anything that I want to, and then set fire to it, putting the lives of our fire fighters at risk and costing the community many thousands of pounds?

You would stand back then and say "... good on you Peter". Well, would you? I doubt it very much.

Do you ever use that brain that God gave you?

[duckandcover]

So you approve of arson do you?

Does that mean that I can come round to your house and you will allow me to ransack it, steal anything that I want to, and then set fire to it, putting the lives of our fire fighters at risk and costing the community many thousands of pounds?

You would stand back then and say "... good on you Peter". Well, would you? I doubt it very much.

Do you ever use that brain that God gave you?

Not quite a fair comparison imho! Unless Shansukes` family are a secret society that promote a corrupt way of conducting business and get off lighter with crime etc if your a part of that family!!!

[meksar]

Let the Masonic establishment taste the fires of hell.

[comawhite015]

Let the Masonic establishment taste the fires of hell.

Sorry but that really made me giggle :D *pat pat*


It was probably just some stupid kids. Or some form of addled loony, anyway. As if burning down a 1 lodge would make a difference anyway.

I hope nobody was hurt ::(

[shansuke]

well said duckandcover.

in most comunitys in the uk their are meetings of some of the most well of and powerfull members of that comunity,in secret.enough said.

[barney_rubble]

A rare occasion when the mass media particularly the BBC mention their controllers, the masons.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7837103.stm

MASONIC HALL ATTACKED IN NORTHERN IRELAND

A masonic hall in County Down has been damaged in an overnight arson attack, police have said. The hall in Corry Street, Newtownards, was broken into on Sunday night at about 2300 GMT.

A police spokeswoman said that thieves ransacked the building before setting it alight. Police have appealed to anyone who noticed suspicious activity in the area on Sunday evening to contact them.

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good on them tho,the masons are just gonna have to get used to the fact that folk aint gonna stand for secret little clubs in their comunity any more.



Let the Masonic establishment taste the fires of hell.


Given Joe's post (plus his signature my emphasis) and the attitudes shown in shansuke's and meksar's responses I am glad there is no public registry of Freemasons.

It would be a shopping list for freaks like this to burn down.

[grandsecretary]

Given Joe's post (plus his signature my emphasis) and the attitudes shown in shansuke's and meksar's responses I am glad there is no public registry of Freemasons.

It would be a shopping list for freaks like this to burn down.

Common criminals, the lot of them.

[lightgiver]

Common criminals, the lot of them.

I agree that type of behaviour is unacceptable.:(

Ye shall reap what you so,because actions have effects good and bad.

but i can understand peoples concerns.:(

[marpat]

i wouldnt like the to be in them robbers shoes if they get caught,some if not most of the cops will be masons and will make sure they get the living shit kicked out of them,and handed a heavy sentence.

good on them tho,the masons are just gonna have to get used to the fact that folk aint gonna stand for secret little clubs in their comunity any more.

nothing stays secret for ever.

And you represent truth and freedom? maybe the style used by the nazis.

[lightgiver]

A rare occasion when the mass media particularly the BBC mention their controllers, the masons.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7837103.stm

MASONIC HALL ATTACKED IN NORTHERN IRELAND

A masonic hall in County Down has been damaged in an overnight arson attack, police have said. The hall in Corry Street, Newtownards, was broken into on Sunday night at about 2300 GMT.

A police spokeswoman said that thieves ransacked the building before setting it alight. Police have appealed to anyone who noticed suspicious activity in the area on Sunday evening to contact them.

I wonder if the IRISH are aware of this;)

Looks like we have all been deceived for a very long time and still are.

On the beautiful Ulster flag there is a "Red Hand" mounted on the "Star of David", under a Royal Crown. Why would symbols of Israel's royalty be on the flag of people who have been taught that they are Gentiles?

It is because they are NOT Gentiles but Israelites who have lost the knowledge of their true identity and the PROOF is on the flag.
http://www.the7thfire.com/queen_tephi/flag_of_Ulster.html

[marpat]

I agree that type of behaviour is unacceptable.:(

Ye shall reap what you so,because actions have effects good and bad.

but i can understand peoples concerns.:(


I think the real problem is ignorance. People dont know what goes on in those places and presume that there are all sorts of underhanded stuff going on there. What if it is just some local nutcase who has read some of Ickes work and just went for it without actually thinking about right or wrong. What if it was just a random act of vandalism? could be somebody who got kicked out or anything.

Is there anything stopping people joining or at least reading up on the subject? I think a major problem is that people want to know everything but dont want to get involved. They want to know other peoples business without ever bothering having to go and find out for themselves.

People and groups have a right to some privacy in my opinion. Is there any reason why they should not be allowed privacy to practice their beliefs? how would you feel if the Dalai Lama was forced to do all of his practices in public view or for him to have to explain everything that goes on inside the monastaries just for the benefit of a curious but disinterested public?

[lightgiver]

I think the real problem is ignorance. People dont know what goes on in those places and presume that there are all sorts of underhanded stuff going on there. What if it is just some local nutcase who has read some of Ickes work and just went for it without actually thinking about right or wrong. What if it was just a random act of vandalism? could be somebody who got kicked out or anything.

Is there anything stopping people joining or at least reading up on the subject? I think a major problem is that people want to know everything but dont want to get involved. They want to know other peoples business without ever bothering having to go and find out for themselves.

People and groups have a right to some privacy in my opinion. Is there any reason why they should not be allowed privacy to practice their beliefs? how would you feel if the Dalai Lama was forced to do all of his practices in public view or for him to have to explain everything that goes on inside the monastaries just for the benefit of a curious but disinterested public?

I agree as long as the practise are not infringing on peoples welfare,but any type of violence in my eyes is unacceptable.:(

Thats why we have language and words.;)

I get angry but i wish no one any harm.

[sophia_h]

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Common criminals, the lot of them.



grandsecretary

ignorant bigots.


checked your link

I appreciate the symbolism in your crest.
More need to aspire thus.

;)

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[marpat]

I agree as long as the practise are not infringing on peoples welfare,but any type of violence in my eyes is unacceptable.:(

Thats why we have language and words.;)

I get angry but i wish no one any harm.

Agreed. But what has masonic ritual got to do with peoples welfare other than those who are taking part?

It could well have just been a robbery where they torched the place to destroy any evidence. Uness there is more information abut what really happened we cannot really say if it is an attack on masons or just a robbery. Churches get robbed an burnt at times too.

People will always attack that which is not familiar to them if they feel threatened, even if the threat is purely imaginary. Look at the witch hunts, make people scared and they will attack.

[lightgiver]

Agreed. But what has masonic ritual got to do with peoples welfare other than those who are taking part?

It could well have just been a robbery where they torched the place to destroy any evidence. Uness there is more information abut what really happened we cannot really say if it is an attack on masons or just a robbery. Churches get robbed an burnt at times too.

People will always attack that which is not familiar to them if they feel threatened, even if the threat is purely imaginary. Look at the witch hunts, make people scared and they will attack.


John 7:4 For there is no man that does any thing in secret, and he himself seeks to be known openly. If you do these things, show yourself to the world [cosmos]. HHMMM.:)

Like i say i do not condone violence.

BTW practise is in the mind.

[marpat]

John 7:4 For there is no man that does any thing in secret, and he himself seeks to be known openly. If you do these things, show yourself to the world [cosmos]. HHMMM.:)

Like i say i do not condone violence.

BTW practise is in the mind.


And the words of John are absolute? maybe that was written in later as an excuse to destroy and secretive groups which the church felt threatened by. Jesus spoke to his disciples openly but to the masses he spoke in parables, effectively keeping the true secrets hidden from them.

Practice is not all in the mind. What is hatha yoga.

[lightgiver]

And the words of John are absolute? maybe that was written in later as an excuse to destroy and secretive groups which the church felt threatened by. Jesus spoke to his disciples openly but to the masses he spoke in parables, effectively keeping the true secrets hidden from them.

Practice is not all in the mind. What is hatha yoga.

Just ask yourself before you do the practise of hatha yoga,the thought originates before the action,:)and yoga is good BTW.

"Without the discipline of guarding the mind, what use are any other disciplines?"

If a practise is good why hide it?

[meksar]

Someone will soon condemn the satanic nature of Freemasonry on a mass scale,the masons knew this day would come when the cattle begin to rebel as the agenda becomes easier to detect.

[grandsecretary]

Someone will soon condemn the satanic nature of Freemasonry on a mass scale,the masons knew this day would come when the cattle begin to rebel as the agenda becomes easier to detect.

"... soon ..."

You're a little bit late ... The Pope did that 200 years ago.

[meksar]

The high ranking masons are a bunch of corrupt,homosexual,child abusing and Luciferian cowards who keep their dirty secrets behind closed doors.They have shown they have no regard for the citizens so the only logical thing to do is too have a final solution where they are put under enough pressure to make them think twice about their agenda.

[abolitionist]

So you approve of arson do you?

Does that mean that I can come round to your house and you will allow me to ransack it, steal anything that I want to, and then set fire to it, putting the lives of our fire fighters at risk and costing the community many thousands of pounds?

You would stand back then and say "... good on you Peter". Well, would you? I doubt it very much.

Do you ever use that brain that God gave you?

you're comparing apples and oranges grandsecretary

guerilla warfare is the natural consequence of masonic secrecy and meddling in government - change your ways or get used to it

[meksar]

We must let the Masonic bastards feel the full force of the uprising and liberation and justice for society.

[slartibartfast]

well said duckandcover.

in most comunitys in the uk their are meetings of some of the most well of and powerfull members of that comunity,in secret.enough said.

You mean the Golf Club?

[astrochicken]

As long as no-one gets hurt i'm for burning down every freemasonic lodge.

Yeah, in this instance i do approve of arson.

[barney_rubble]

As long as no-one gets hurt i'm for burning down every freemasonic lodge.

Yeah, in this instance i do approve of arson.

If that is how you want to play it.
That would give every Freemason the right to burn down the house of every Anti-mason (or anyone they deem anti) - "as long as no-one get hurt".

Come on please use at least two brain cells at the same time.
Freemason are NOT doing anything illegal under the law The only people that have committed any crime in this case is the arson who burned down the lodge and you seem willing to give him/her a pass on this.
You thinks they are above the law now.

[eyepod]

You mean the Golf Club?

The local gold club is neither a secret society and nor does it adhere to the luciferian relegion.

Albert Pike - Morals and Dogma
you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees – The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.........Yes, Lucifer is God

[barney_rubble]

You mean the Golf Club?
The local gold club is neither a secret society and nor does it adhere to the luciferian relegion.
Sorry but regardless of what you believe, have been told, or have read
Freemasonry does NOT adhere to a "luciferian religion". There is no irrefutable proof of what you write above.



Albert Pike - Morals and Dogma
you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees – The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.........Yes, Lucifer is God
Sorry if this is some of our proof it is a falsehood.

Here is a link to an online version of "Morals and Dogma", please find your quote in any of the pages - oh I am sorry you can not it isn't there.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/md/index.htm

If you do not trust the link then go find a hard copy of "Morals and Dogma" and try to find your quote - oh sorry again it will not be there.

[astrochicken]

Sorry but regardless of what you believe, have been told, or have read Freemasonry does NOT adhere to a "luciferian religion". There is no irrefutable proof of what you write above.



That's just because you have not been tapped for higher things.

The problem is the structure in itself. You, perhaps, might not have a problem with masons being listed in a public directory as for you and another 90% not far enough up the food chain, it's most likely just good for business.

What i do have a problem with is the secretive fraternal aspect and one only has to look at the dutroux case in belgium or recently in the channel islands to see what i'm implying.

That is precisely why there is no public list of freemasons.

[mike martin]

The problem is the structure in itself. You, perhaps, might not have a problem with masons being listed in a public directory as for you and another 90% not far enough up the food chain, it's most likely just good for business.
To be honest any Masons that are in business are already listed in every business directory going, that's what is good for business. Being also listed as a Mason won't make any difference, Masons are the same as anyone else they take their business where they get value for money and good service

What i do have a problem with is the secretive fraternal aspect and one only has to look at the dutroux case in belgium or recently in the channel islands to see what i'm implying.
I'd be interested to read exactly what it is you imagine you have a problem with. The "secretive" part of Freemasonry has been discussed here and the facts of what is actually secret is on the majority of Masonic websites.

That is precisely why there is no public list of freemasons.
There is no public list of Freemasons as there is no need for one, all it would benefit would be people who have to blame the failures and misfortunes of their lives on "someone" and a list would be really helpful to point at the Masons.

I've said it here many times, if people have actual real-life (rather than imagined) problems with people they think are Masons take it to the authorities.

Mike

[mike martin]

I find it quite sad that there are people who are so willing to expend such hate and spite towards people who have only ever wronged them in their own imaginations.

The fact that such people are being fuelled by connecting with others holding similar paranoid fantasies does not bode well for the future.

Mike

[grandsecretary]

I find it quite sad that there are people who are so willing to expend such hate and spite towards people who have only ever wronged them in their own imaginations.

The fact that such people are being fuelled by connecting with others holding similar paranoid fantasies does not bode well for the future.

Mike

Mike, that is why we are Freemasons. As I have always said, it is a system of EXCLUSION. We are here, voluntarily in your case, but we have the solace of the fellowship of our Brethren in a world that the profane cannot penetrate. The hateful, the spiteful, have no such haven, we must pity and pray for them.

Now you mention paranoia, but IMHO it is but a small part of the picture here. What we can clearly see, is classic and serious Psychotic illnesses.

Psychotic illness:

Delusions: are unshakeable beliefs that are obviously untrue. For example, an ill person might strongly believe that there is a plot to harm them - that they are being spied on through the TV or being taken over by aliens. (SOURCE: Royal College of Psychiatrists - Factsheet 33)

Delusions:

Psychosis may involve delusional beliefs, some of which are paranoid in nature. Karl Jaspers classified psychotic delusions into primary and secondary types. Primary delusions are defined as arising suddenly and not being comprehensible in terms of normal mental processes, whereas secondary delusions may be understood as being influenced by the person's background or current situation (e.g., ethnic or sexual orientation, religious beliefs, superstitious belief.) (SOURCE: Wikipedia)

Psychosis includes delusions and hallucinations.

Delusion: is a false, fixed, strange, or irrational belief that is firmly held. The belief is not normally accepted by other members of the same culture or group. It is important to look at culture, especially with ethnic issues, to decide if strange beliefs are really psychotic. There are delusions of paranoia (plots against them), delusions of grandeur (exaggerated ideas of importance or identity), and somatic delusions (false belief in having a terminal illness). (SOURCE: Patient UK)

Cannabis users are 40 per cent more likely to develop a psychotic illness than non-users, a study has found. (SOURCE: Timesonline - Nigel Hawkes - Health Editor)

Classic symptoms if you read the various threads. It calls for our prayers and our pity. Another symptom is the inability to recogise the illness. I predict that the responses will prove the point.

[barney_rubble]

That's just because you have not been tapped for higher things.

The problem is the structure in itself. You, perhaps, might not have a problem with masons being listed in a public directory as for you and another 90% not far enough up the food chain, it's most likely just good for business.
I am pretty high up the food chain. I have yet one degree left to attain before I am at the pinnacle of Freemasonry.
You may be correct that one degree may make all the difference in the world but I seriously doubt it.




What i do have a problem with is the secretive fraternal aspect and one only has to look at the dutroux case in belgium or recently in the channel islands to see what i'm implying.
I am unfamiliar with this case. I am not sure if it has made the news in Canada.




That is precisely why there is no public list of freemasons.
As Mike says there is no list because there is not need for one, plus it would violate a number of privacy issues.


BTW - @ eyepod - I assume you had no luck finding your Morals and Dogma quote in the "real" text of the book.

[horus13]

Mike, that is why we are Freemasons. As I have always said, it is a system of EXCLUSION. We are here, voluntarily in your case, but we have the solace of the fellowship of our Brethren in a world that the profane cannot penetrate. The hateful, the spiteful, have no such haven, we must pity and pray for them.

Now you mention paranoia, but IMHO it is but a small part of the picture here. What we can clearly see, is classic and serious Psychotic illnesses.

Classic symptoms if you read the various threads. It calls for our prayers and our pity. Another symptom is the inability to recogise the illness. I predict that the responses will prove the point.


i'm no mason etc. but have in depth experience of mental health issues (not first hand may i add). it's really saddening to see the many kids on here who have definitely got personality disorders and/or mental illnesses. much of it seems to be a result of drug use too.

their condition requires a shadowy unknown enemy and plenty of them are actually indulging their condition and feeding it (ie making it worse) by coming on here.

they don't understand that it is they themselves who are a bigger "threat" to society as a whole and to individuals at ground level than some shadowy elite. they probably can't get on with their lives thinking the way they do.

they've got a basic lack of comprehension about how the world has always been "run" and how it will always continue to be "run" if you will. if you understand and grasp what is actually happening in a (very large and expansive) world with all the ritualism and numerology and power shifting, then you can go about your business in relative peace and harmony.

unfortunately there's so much illiterate psycho-babble and nonsense on here it's exactly what is holding back the hard work of truth seeking individuals. most of it is an absolute joke and clearly the product of demented minds.

it is a lack of peace and harmony within the self (an imbalance) that is causing them the obvious problems they have in the first place. they are effectively (of their own free will) stuck in a self perpetuating cycle of delusion, paranoia and ultimately fear. some way to live the gift of life. i despair sometimes.

[marpat]

Just ask yourself before you do the practise of hatha yoga,the thought originates before the action,:)and yoga is good BTW.

"Without the discipline of guarding the mind, what use are any other disciplines?"

If a practise is good why hide it?

Because things that can be use for good can be used for evil. That is why mysteries are guarded, to prevent irresponsible idiots getting their hands on techniques that can harm others and themselves.

You are too naive. Even in Tibetan Buddhism people go to immense lengths to get initiated into teachings which are good. Why do they guard them so fiercly if they are good? my answer is above.

[marpat]

I find it quite sad that there are people who are so willing to expend such hate and spite towards people who have only ever wronged them in their own imaginations.

The fact that such people are being fuelled by connecting with others holding similar paranoid fantasies does not bode well for the future.

Mike


And they call themselves peace lovers and truth seekers!!!

[grandsecretary]

i'm no mason etc. but have in depth experience of mental health issues (not first hand may i add). it's really saddening to see the many kids on here who have definitely got personality disorders and/or mental illnesses. much of it seems to be a result of drug use too.

their condition requires a shadowy unknown enemy and plenty of them are actually indulging their condition and feeding it (ie making it worse) by coming on here.

they don't understand that it is they themselves who are a bigger "threat" to society as a whole and to individuals at ground level than some shadowy elite. they probably can't get on with their lives thinking the way they do.

they've got a basic lack of comprehension about how the world has always been "run" and how it will always continue to be "run" if you will. if you understand and grasp what is actually happening in a (very large and expansive) world with all the ritualism and numerology and power shifting, then you can go about your business in relative peace and harmony.

unfortunately there's so much illiterate psycho-babble and nonsense on here it's exactly what is holding back the hard work of truth seeking individuals. most of it is an absolute joke and clearly the product of demented minds.

it is a lack of peace and harmony within the self (an imbalance) that is causing them the obvious problems they have in the first place. they are effectively (of their own free will) stuck in a self perpetuating cycle of delusion, paranoia and ultimately fear. some way to live the gift of life. i despair sometimes.

So have I. I hope that those who are suffering do not think that we are just "having a go" at them, thereby adding to their problems, but take a hard look at themselves and seek the proper care.

[meksar]

This Masonic evilarchy will fall and the people will rejoice in destroying the disgusting stench of Masonic ways.The Freemasons worship people like Albert Pike who has a statue in Washington,the Luciferian elite claim to be spreading the light but they are terrified of it really.

[mike martin]

The thing is I can well remember how I was very similar 20 odd years ago. Raging at the World and thinking it all was so unfair that I was skint while others were walking around in suits with mobile phones and flash GTIs etc.

Thankfully I learnt that was just the way it was and no amount of angst on my part would make any difference.

Mike

[marpat]

This Masonic evilarchy will fall and the people will rejoice in destroying the disgusting stench of Masonic ways.The Freemasons worship people like Albert Pike who has a statue in Washington,the Luciferian elite claim to be spreading the light but they are terrified of it really.

I am not a mason but people like you make me laugh. You're as oppresive as anybody else. Destroy anything you dont understand. Have you ever been to a lodge or seen what they do or is your entire attitude based on what you have read on the internet?

Who made people like you their judge? not that you are capable of clear and unbiased judgement anyway.

[grandsecretary]

This Masonic evilarchy will fall and the people will rejoice in destroying the disgusting stench of Masonic ways.The Freemasons worship people like Albert Pike who has a statue in Washington,the Luciferian elite claim to be spreading the light but they are terrified of it really.

"... the people ... "

You speak for "... the people ..." do you? Where, when and how were you elected by "... the people ..." to speak on their behalf?

So we'll ignore this one shall we? Yes, good idea.

[lord summerisle]

Without reading all the replies i would put this incident down to sectarianism from the republicans against the prods/masons as seems to be the case in Glasgow and Northern Ireland. Glasgow Rangers - prods=masons. Glasgow Celtic - catholics=republicans. It all evolves around two football teams.

[mike martin]

Without reading all the replies i would put this incident down to sectarianism from the republicans against the prods/masons as seems to be the case in Glasgow and Northern Ireland. Glasgow Rangers - prods=masons. Glasgow Celtic - catholics=republicans. It all evolves around two football teams.

That is quite possible!

Many non-Masons don't realise/care/undersand that Masonic Lodges in Ireland (North and South) are all under the same body, the Grand Lodge of Ireland and its membership is therefore made up from men either side of the old divide both Protestant and Catholic.

ce la vie.

Mike

[barney_rubble]

That is quite possible!

Many non-Masons don't realise/care/undersand that Masonic Lodges in Ireland (North and South) are all under the same body, the Grand Lodge of Ireland and its membership is therefore made up from men either side of the old divide both Protestant and Catholic.

ce la vie.

Mike


Unless of course the Catholics in Ireland listen to their Pope and steer clear of Freemasonry (and join the Knights of Columbus instead). In that case you would have both North and South Protestants under the Grand Lodge of Ireland.

That said if I use my lodge as a gauge(12 inch as it were) I see a great number of Catholics do join Freemasonry - so there goes that theory.

[grandsecretary]

Unless of course the Catholics in Ireland listen to their Pope and steer clear of Freemasonry (and join the Knights of Columbus instead). In that case you would have both North and South Protestants under the Grand Lodge of Ireland.

That said if I use my lodge as a gauge(12 inch as it were) I see a great number of Catholics do join Freemasonry - so there goes that theory.

There are very few Catholics in The Grand Lodge of Ireland. Most Freemasons south of the Irish border are non-Catholics.

[ban freekmasons]

"... the people ... "

You speak for "... the people ..." do you? Where, when and how were you elected by "... the people ..." to speak on their behalf?

So we'll ignore this one shall we? Yes, good idea.

and exactly what have you GS and your pretend brothers been doing, we'll tell you "speaking on behalf of the people" just checkout your very own posts.
or ask mike :)

[grandsecretary]

and exactly what have you GS and your pretend brothers been doing, we'll tell you "speaking on behalf of the people" just checkout your very own posts.
or ask mike :)

No. I cartainly do not claim to speak for "... the people ...", and I don't think Mike has claimed that, or lightindarkness or any other Mason on this forum.

We leave that to you Wolfy.

[localidiot]

I'm not old enough to remember what it was like when the KKK came through town and at best slaughtered, at worst mutilated the people they didn't like.
By most people, you me, heck, probably by a decent sized number of the people of this forum, they were innocents.

I figured most people in the cleaner parts of the world wouldn't need to meet folks who suffered from those idiots to learn.
But, I'm going to guess not.
I don't give a damn about what most of the people on this forum say.
It's all fiar and good, I argue on occasion but I mostly enjoy reading, learning, then I go do something else. Freedom of speech an' all that.

Some of these comments scare the cow puck right out of me, though.

Most of th nonsense on this foum is invented by people who spew the same thoughts and ideas they swear they are fighting against.

But cheerfully calling for the death of people you've no reason to hate?
Yes, i'm to young to remember the past events of hate, ignorance, and terror that came before. Doesn't mean I don't recognize the new faces the old idiots are wearing today.

... Dear me, were'd this soap box come from?

[meksar]

The KKK was created by Albert Pike a 33rd degree mason, there is even a statue of him in Washington.

[localidiot]

KKK was not founded by Pike, I've gone over this before. Neither incarnation had Pike as a member.
Hello new face.

[crowd control]

So you approve of arson do you?

Does that mean that I can come round to your house and you will allow me to ransack it, steal anything that I want to, and then set fire to it, putting the lives of our fire fighters at risk and costing the community many thousands of pounds?

You would stand back then and say "... good on you Peter". Well, would you? I doubt it very much.

Do you ever use that brain that God gave you?

That's all you lot have been doing to the defenceless for ages, taking what you want, setting the agenda for the dogs of war, and you know it. I've got zero sympathy for you devils, these people are an example to us all. I'd torch the lot of you at the stake.

[localidiot]

That's all you lot have been doing to the defenceless for ages, zero sympathy, these people are an example to us all. I'd torch the lot of you at the stake.


Never met the fellow, probably haven't met a Mason, though you'll cite all sorts of reasons why you hate them.
Back in the 1800's, you'd have probably blamed them for your crops failing.

[crowd control]

Take your cowed, lickspittle, applepolishing slavery elsewhere, you are wasting your time trying to influence my entity in regards to these insects.

[localidiot]

Take your cowed, lickspittle, applepolishing slavery elsewhere, you are wasting your time trying to influence my entity in regards to these insects.

See? You have no idea who I am, but you hate me.
All you're showing is you are of the same mindset as those folks who put innocents to the stake in Salem.
If that insanity is what you view as more favourable than what you call slavery... i want no part of it, thanks.

[crowd control]

See? You have no idea who I am, but you hate me.
All you're showing is you are of the same mindset as those folks who put innocents to the stake in Salem.
If that insanity is what you view as more favourable than what you call slavery... i want no part of it, thanks.

You assume I have never met a mason
You assume I hate you, wrong on both counts.

I wasn't asking for your assistance or blessing, neither of which is of any intrest to me in the slightest.

Your mind is warped protecting these cowards.

[localidiot]

If my mind is warped, it's because what I am seing stated matches what I fight against.
And it certainly is not those who ar in Masonry.
The words you ar using, and the inflection you put to them are the same as I have read in statements from those who encouraged hate throughout history.
Forgive me if I see you as less than you would portray yourself, though I care little for your ego.

[ban freekmasons]

If my mind is warped, it's because what I am seing stated matches what I fight against.
And it certainly is not those who ar in Masonry.
The words you ar using, and the inflection you put to them are the same as I have read in statements from those who encouraged hate throughout history.
Forgive me if I see you as less than you would portray yourself, though I care little for your ego.

Here in the UK not many people talk to the localidiot, especially if he is a member of a criminal network.

[grandsecretary]

That's all you lot have been doing to the defenceless for ages, taking what you want, setting the agenda for the dogs of war, and you know it. I've got zero sympathy for you devils, these people are an example to us all. I'd torch the lot of you at the stake.

This is such an extreme statement that all I can do is disagree and recommend civilisation. Burning people at the stake as an alternative to our current system of democracy and law is not a society that attracts me I must say.

[mike martin]

You assume I have never met a mason
You assume I hate you, wrong on both counts.
I would be interested to read an account of why your meeting with a Mason or Masons has made you come to your conclusions about Masons?

Your mind is warped protecting these cowards.
I'm no coward, so who is doing the assuming now?

Mike

[scotia]

[QUOTE=mike martin;755169

I'm no coward, so who is doing the assuming now?

Mike[/QUOTE]

Do you have a reply to any of my questions I have asked sir?

Or I will start assuming people lack in more skills that one...

I am no coward, and I wunder how many masons and corrupt officails and all that shit would have the balls to stand up to my wee gang...

Sooo

[crowd control]

This is such an extreme statement that all I can do is disagree and recommend civilisation. Burning people at the stake as an alternative to our current system of democracy and law is not a society that attracts me I must say.


If you were to multiply your number by 100 and I were to personally torture to death every one, it would pale into insignificance in the face of the ocean of atrocity you scabs have bled all over this planet.

Tiocfaidh ár lá

[endlessvista]

Police have appealed to anyone who noticed suspicious activity in the area on Sunday evening to contact them.


Really, suspicious activity at a Mosonic Temple!

[crowd control]

I would be interested to read an account of why your meeting with a Mason or Masons has made you come to your conclusions about Masons?


I'm no coward, so who is doing the assuming now?

Mike

A coward you are to hide and plot in secrecy, with the might of the war machines and politicians and judges and police in your back pockets, with all the evil machinations of this transitory "power" in this dimention of exsistance, you will meet justice and reap what you sow in this life or the next. Enjoy your fleeting ego trip.

A real man can fight his own battles.

[mike martin]

A coward you are to hide and plot in secrecy, with the might of the war machines and politicians and judges and police in your back pockets, with all the evil machinations of this transitory "power" in this dimention of exsistance, you will meet justice and reap what you sow in this life or the next. Enjoy your fleeting ego trip.
Nice answer!

So really you haven't actually met any Masons have you?

Mike

[crowd control]

I don't have to try and convince you of anything, you know the power of truth hunts you down like the tiger in the long grass, why should I bother talking to the monkey when your organ grinder is here? whom I've heard slapping you down a few times for talking shite, even when you have been trying to back him up. It's the single most comical thing on this forum, you sound like a bit of a liability actually, you must cry yourself to sleep when that happens.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous you look in that panto costume?

[mike martin]

I don't have to try and convince you of anything, you know the power of truth hunts you down like the tiger in the long grass, why should I bother talking to the monkey when your organ grinder is here?
Why do you find it so hard to just be honest and say "no I haven't"?

Are you worried that it would hurt your credibility? I can assure you it wouldn't, the majority of posters here haven't either and with those of us who are Masons you don't have any anyway.

Mike

[crowd control]

My conversation with you is over underling.

[scotia]

Well, I think this looks as if handled :D

U dunno how long I would have lasted in they caraaazyyy street of the toon, or witever toon, maybe even a glen, up a mountain or by alang a stream...

Does any ken ere undertsand wit a mean when a I've heard a' the young team who huv been forced that shit n' aw.. Lake lock cock n' a that..

C'mon troops, its Burns night tae, so many yiung huv forgot aboot the auld ways n' him, he wis a giud guy, and I think he stayed up aww night, he wis a bit spaced oot tae a think, musta been they holy munks sortig the whole young team ooot when they wur aboot...

Fae stoned men tae spaced men, and then sum of that buckie launched in + pleny of loving fae those that cared, a wunder wit tha fook wit cum oot that cauldren, evil or lovable children some saye...

A canna coont wi aww that canabus a think, but it mak4es me think, aye am a nutter some seem tae be scraed a think... I widnae say am mad, a just know some loonies, but they are fecking sweet as ya can get...

Holy seed and Holy weed + ?

I need a man of secrets and numbers tae work the rest oot...

Party on young team, and look after those that love ya and died for ya, and would do the same again and again, thats if they rotten buns were ever had the chance tae see another oven again...

Roxk n Roll!!!

Paul.

Ps... Wit fitba teams does everyones suport, and who has the hardest team, and who is connected tae the biggest TRIBES on earth???

Auld skoool is cool...

[mike martin]

My conversation with you is over underling.
Oooh, get her:D

Mike

[localidiot]

Here in the UK not many people talk to the localidiot, especially if he is a member of a criminal network.

Shame, usually the local idiots are the only ones actually paying attention.

[scotia]

True Local Idiot :)

[crowd control]

Shame, usually the local idiots are the only ones actually paying attention.

what do you propose,treat them with infinite love and jammie dodgers,the only thing they will listen to is the barrel of a gun

[scotia]

Hi Crowd Control,

I see pain in your eyes, I have been looking for the masons that dont give out names on lists, I am looking to destroy all evil...

I would want the kiddie fiddlers tae burn never tae return, and teach them not to fuck with whats right ever again first, before you make sure it hurts...

One for all and all for one, I think someones about tae burst big coos bubles!!!

warriors come out to play

[scotia]

Thanks, it was the Irn Bru, and loads of sweet things...

love yas!!!

[barney_rubble]

Sorry to get off topic but I was just wondering when scotia had his/her stroke?
Have a look at the following two posts by scotia separated by 1.5 months or so.

In the first he/she is very coherent but in the second he/she is reduced to an incoherent babbling mess wit e fak accent trown en.

So as I said it is either a stroke or he is having us on - which is it scotia?

The only reason I mention it is because it is damned annoying to read.


posted on: 09-12-2008, 11:10 PM

I think christianity is covered with a mask to decieve people and is the NWO.. There have been lots deceptions, too many.. Our courts and the wigs look like something from Egypt, and the bible looks like it was actualy started by Nero to control people, then James brought out his version, and so on... Its evil behind it using the mask of good, or ther is evil deep in there.

I think the Romans have named many people and groups, all the history written and taught as facts today I dont think is right.. Are pagans evil bloodthirsty people like Nero and others, or were Nero and others like the NWO scared of these people for a reason?

I think the pagans are the same as the druids and celts and picts etc... Lots of history has been changed and the truth is still getting mixed up today through lies and deception...

Egypt-Rome-Britain-America etc,, I think its all the same people behind these "empires" and lots more, and they have been using the same tools for ages..



posted on: 25-01-2009, 09:37 AM

Well, I think this looks as if handled :D

U dunno how long I would have lasted in they caraaazyyy street of the toon, or witever toon, maybe even a glen, up a mountain or by alang a stream...

Does any ken ere undertsand wit a mean when a I've heard a' the young team who huv been forced that shit n' aw.. Lake lock cock n' a that..

C'mon troops, its Burns night tae, so many yiung huv forgot aboot the auld ways n' him, he wis a giud guy, and I think he stayed up aww night, he wis a bit spaced oot tae a think, musta been they holy munks sortig the whole young team ooot when they wur aboot...

Fae stoned men tae spaced men, and then sum of that buckie launched in + pleny of loving fae those that cared, a wunder wit tha fook wit cum oot that cauldren, evil or lovable children some saye...

A canna coont wi aww that canabus a think, but it mak4es me think, aye am a nutter some seem tae be scraed a think... I widnae say am mad, a just know some loonies, but they are fecking sweet as ya can get...

Holy seed and Holy weed + ?

I need a man of secrets and numbers tae work the rest oot...

Party on young team, and look after those that love ya and died for ya, and would do the same again and again, thats if they rotten buns were ever had the chance tae see another oven again...

Roxk n Roll!!!

Paul.

Ps... Wit fitba teams does everyones suport, and who has the hardest team, and who is connected tae the biggest TRIBES on earth???

Auld skoool is cool...

[shansuke]

well dont read it then barney.

[gtycoon]

A rare occasion when the mass media particularly the BBC mention their controllers, the masons.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7837103.stm

MASONIC HALL ATTACKED IN NORTHERN IRELAND

A masonic hall in County Down has been damaged in an overnight arson attack, police have said. The hall in Corry Street, Newtownards, was broken into on Sunday night at about 2300 GMT.

A police spokeswoman said that thieves ransacked the building before setting it alight. Police have appealed to anyone who noticed suspicious activity in the area on Sunday evening to contact them.


I believe this is wrong and should not be condoned.

[marpat]

QUOTED POST REMOVED.


Nothing but infinite love from some people

Is not your hate feeding the nasty reptiles?:D

[thentherewere4]

Fortunately there weren't any Free Masons in the building at the time.

I just hope this sort of thing doesn't catch on. If you happen to live next door to one of these premises you are at risk I suppose.

[lightgiver]

Burning down the house with TUMMO :D:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNnAvTTaJjM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNnAvTTaJjM

The end is nigh :p

The masons are making me bad like them,it must be rubbing off on one.

Watch out
You might get what youre after
Cool babies
Strange but not a stranger
Im an ordinary guy
Burning down the house

Hold tight wait till the partys over
Hold tight were in for nasty weather
There has got to be a way
Burning down the house

Heres your ticket pack your bag: time for jumpin overboard
The transportation is here
Close enough but not too far, maybe you know where you are
Fightin fire with fire

All wet
Hey you might need a raincoat
Shakedown
Dreams walking in broad daylight
Three hun-dred six-ty five de-grees 365 degrees. or is it 360 degrees a full circle?
Burning down the house

It was once upon a place sometimes I listen to myself
Gonna come in first place
People on their way to work baby what did you except
Gonna burst into flame

My house
Sout of the ordinary
Thats might
Dont want to hurt nobody
Some things sure can sweep me off my feet
Burning down the house

No visible means of support and you have not seen nuthin yet
Every things stuck together
I don't know what you expect starring into the tv set
Fighting fire with fire

I love good music,a message in everything. cheers David.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqO9cgvaow8

BTW if you are wondering why i put the words up,its just the vids tend to go missing,and the posts look ridiculous when you post a vid and peeps read them and the vid is not there to watch , i feel you get my drift,plus words are good to read also.

No doubt some one will reply with a sarcastic comment on the ridiculous bit,just stating it before it happens,ya know sticking the knife in the back,

Now you know where the saying comes from,masonic style.TBH i am sick of seeing and hearing that word,i do not bother with the free bit,because it should say slave instead.

[eastbeast]

The masons are making me bad like them,it must be rubbing off on one.


Then you are not mixing with Masons. Most likely people who are telling you they are and just like playing games with you.



BTW if you are wondering why i put the words up,its just the vids tend to go missing,and the posts look ridiculous when you post a vid and peeps read them and the vid is not there to watch , i feel you get my drift,plus words are good to read also.


One of my all time favourite songs, so thanks.



Now you know where the saying comes from,masonic style.TBH i am sick of seeing and hearing that word,i do not bother with the free bit,because it should say slave instead.

Slave???????
I really cannot imagine where you get that idea from, however as with all the other antis here you appear to have been misinformed completely about Freemasonry.

When I was an Apprentice my Manager was a Freemason, he got our Foreman involved, and all us lads used to speculate, the older blokes joined in, not a single one of us really knew or bothered to ask what Freemasonry was and so all formed a negative opinion.
I am sure one day you will take the trouble to discover the truth for yourself as did I.

[lightgiver]

Then you are not mixing with Masons. Most likely people who are telling you they are and just like playing games with you.




One of my all time favourite songs, so thanks.




Slave???????
I really cannot imagine where you get that idea from, however as with all the other antis here you appear to have been misinformed completely about Freemasonry.

When I was an Apprentice my Manager was a Freemason, he got our Foreman involved, and all us lads used to speculate, the older blokes joined in, not a single one of us really knew or bothered to ask what Freemasonry was and so all formed a negative opinion.
I am sure one day you will take the trouble to discover the truth for yourself as did I.

No i think not,masons need to be transparent and come out of the closet and tell the people of Britain and the rest of the world who is really running the show.

secret societies do not work in free and open democratic societies as in the speech given by JFK,and look what happened to him.:(:(

I already know the truth.:) thankyou very much.

I was born into slavery just like my parents and grandparents,shitty low paid jobs and a shitty third class education system.

and also of course masons are slaves,you belong to a big club and you do as your masters tell you.

No chains around my feet but i,m not free .I have been around a while to see the light from the dark.

I always thought apprenticeships were for people who needed skills like joiners, plumbers, brickies, mechanics,etc etc ,something Britain is short of,not secret clubs.

BTW glad you like the song,and no way do i advocate people to burn anything down physically,only love works.

[kasalt]

The masons are making me bad like them...

How is that even possible?

On the contrary, I suspect it's what you are doing to yourself that is the problem. It's up to you to change yourself; no one else can do that for you.

Can't you see that?

[lightgiver]

How is that even possible?

On the contrary, I suspect it's what you are doing to yourself that is the problem. It's up to you to change yourself; no one else can do that for you.

Can't you see that?

It was a joke salty balls:D:D

I can see for miles thank you very much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnNYXgV7L-c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4BBQMjbX3c

[kasalt]

It was a joke salty balls:D:D

Coming from you, I should have known. I guess the reason why I didn't recognize it as a joke is because it wasn't funny. :(

[lightgiver]

Coming from you, I should have known. I guess the reason why I didn't recognize it as a joke is because it wasn't funny. :(

A bit like you then,double sad :(:( all you have ever done with me on this forum is criticise because it does not agree with your way of thinking,that's life we are all different if you do not like it then do not reply and stop stalking me.

Or are you just trying to close this thread also,remember we are all not masons,you are a breed unto your selves,now do one:mad:

With a quote like that, I AM GOB SMACKED YOUR MIND IS SO CLOSED,ANOTHER ONE WITH EYES WIDE SHUT,WHY SHOULD I TAKE YOUR INSULTS?? Speaking of repeaters.

carry on and you will be reported for harassment.

[kasalt]

"Lightgiver" are you? Akin to Lucifer, no doubt.

You don't seem to be giving out very much light at all. I'd suggest a name change.

[lightgiver]

A WEST Lothian Masonic hall has become the target of a sectarian hate campaign,and so have i.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-17844646.html

Freemasonry is a worldwide organisation which embraces all religions and beliefs, keeping all options on the table eh,just depends on which way the wind is blowing.

[getmeout]

The thing is I can well remember how I was very similar 20 odd years ago. Raging at the World and thinking it all was so unfair that I was skint while others were walking around in suits with mobile phones and flash GTIs etc.

Thankfully I learnt that was just the way it was and no amount of angst on my part would make any difference.

Mike

Thankfully some people are stronger than that and won't accept things the way they are. They are willing to do something to inspire others in hope of change.

[mike martin]

Thankfully some people are stronger than that and won't accept things the way they are. They are willing to do something to inspire others in hope of change.

The point was that i went out and got a job and started working, just the same as those people (that I was previously envious of) had already done and bought stuff for myself.

Imagining that the world owed me a living and an explanation got me nowhere. I don't quite follow how trying to get other people to do the same would have made a difference to anything?

Mike

[thentherewere4]

Another fire at a Masonic Hall, this time in Gerry Mccanns hometown:

"FIRE crews battled for more than three hours to control a massive blaze at a Masonic Hall in Glasgow.
The fire engulfed the roof of the building yards from the busy West End Retail Park in Crow Road.

More than 25 firefighters from Strathclyde Fire and Rescue tackled the blaze, which raged from more than three hours.

Neighbours raised the alarm at around 1.20pm when flames were spotted shooting out of a section of the roof.

One neighbour, who asked not to be named, said: "It's a miracle the fire didn't spread because it looked like the whole building was going to go up at one point."(*Source)

* Source : http://partick.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/blaze-hits-masonic-hall.html

[lightgiver]

The point was that i went out and got a job and started working, just the same as those people (that I was previously envious of) had already done and bought stuff for myself.

Imagining that the world owed me a living and an explanation got me nowhere. I don't quite follow how trying to get other people to do the same would have made a difference to anything?

Mike

I know plenty of hard working people in Britain and still they cannot rub two brass penny's together,it is a continual uphill struggle due to bad management.:(

How Gordon's Punished Hard-Working Taxpayers
Gordon Brown
Mark Adams

By Mark Adams
Jun 25, 12:21 PM

Gordon Brown marks his first year as Prime Minister this Friday – and note how I avoided using the word “celebrate”. Buffeted by the storms of the global credit crunch, the bungled campaign for the election that never was and uproar over terrorist detention measures, I suspect that he wishes he’d never spent the last decade plotting to take on the top job.

What must be particularly galling is that his sure-fire economic touch seems to have deserted him over the past 12 months (and let’s not pretend that current Chancellor Alistair Darling is running the show without interference).

Before moving out of Number 10, Tony Blair warned that Gordon’s “great clunking fist” would be used to smash the Tories at the next election – but over the past year, it seems that raging Gordon has been indiscriminately battering taxpayers of all incomes around the head.

Before I go on, it’s worth noting that Gordon can’t be blamed for foreseeing the mayhem that spread around the global credit markets following the collapse of the US sub-prime mortgage centre – but it has left a hefty hole in the finances of UK plc. And, what’s more, we’re increasingly footing the bill in the form of a set of unjust stealth taxes.

Take the various car tax proposals – ostensibly a set of classic dis-incentive measures to help keep us off the roads and reduce carbon emissions. Yet once you inspect them, they seem remarkably unfair – for example, next year will see new tax bands for the most-polluting cars. Fair enough – but this measure doesn’t apply to future car purchases but instead retrospectively taxes old cars.

So – if you’ve been struggling along with the gas-farting, dog-haired family Mondeo for the past five years and can’t afford to trade up, you’re in for a nasty tax shock. And it’s a double-whammy because carbon emissions weren’t an issue for manufacturers several years ago – which means that even if you wanted to trade up, the resale value of that car has been slashed by more than half.

And that’s not the only bungled tax measure which betrays Gordon’s previously sure-footed approach to taxing middle Britain – pension reform, alcohol taxes (14p on a bottle of red and nothing on alcopops – eh?) and the reduction on time-limits for reclaiming pension tax relief – all have damaged our finances over the past year.

Even when Gordon tries to make amends these days, he seems to make a mess of it – the £3bn rescue package to recompense the low-earners who lost out over the scrapping of the 10p income tax band still leaves more than one million people worse off.

Expect more of the same during the rest of Brown’s time at Number 10. Happy anniversary big guy! http://blogs.money.sky.com/recession-watch/how-gordon-brown-punished-taxpayers.html

All people in power do is line their own pockets and their lackeys.:(

[thentherewere4]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3386/3269446273_18ba339e8d.jpg?v=0
Completely destroyed the Masonic Hall by the looks of it.

[scooby doo]

I wonder if the IRISH are aware of this;)

Looks like we have all been deceived for a very long time and still are.

On the beautiful Ulster flag there is a "Red Hand" mounted on the "Star of David", under a Royal Crown. Why would symbols of Israel's royalty be on the flag of people who have been taught that they are Gentiles?

It is because they are NOT Gentiles but Israelites who have lost the knowledge of their true identity and the PROOF is on the flag.
http://www.the7thfire.com/queen_tephi/flag_of_Ulster.html

I'm from Northern Ireland and my brother pointed out the star of David to me as I just thought it was a star (not the star of David) I know the red hand is from the cutting of the hand to first reach the land, the crown is to represent loyaly to the crown but the star I never knew or still know about. I will have to look into this myself. It is a different design to the star of David though that is plain to see. But like say will look into it.

[belladonna]

Well said..............as a wife of a Freemason and a practicing Witch of the 21st century, I would surely have been a candidate for ignorance in the 17th century for the 'ducking stool' or bonfire. There is a wonderful saying I use " If ignorance is bliss, why are so many people so angry and unhappy"?
The act on the Masonic hall was simply 'worng' and unexceptable. The fact that it was a Masonic Lodge is errelvent!!This is such an extreme statement that all I can do is disagree and recommend civilisation. Burning people at the stake as an alternative to our current system of democracy and law is not a society that attracts me I must say.

[eastbeast]

No i think not,masons need to be transparent and come out of the closet and tell the people of Britain and the rest of the world who is really running the show.


I think we are as transparent as is possible, however, as you don't, please keep asking or commenting and hopefully you'll get the answers. The same thing applies to anyone here really. The only difficulty would arise when our answers are not believed.



secret societies do not work in free and open democratic societies as in the speech given by JFK,and look what happened to him.:(:(


Once again I have to say that we are not a secret society, I think that idea unfortunately carries on from the old days when members were selected as such, and membership was only likely to come from a narrow range of professionals. Fortunately times have changed and now almost anyone can join, which makes things a a lot more interesting.
There have not been any 'secrets' in Freemasonry for ages in reality!



I was born into slavery just like my parents and grandparents,shitty low paid jobs and a shitty third class education system.


You're preaching to the Choir brother, so was I, but I raised myself up when all the others around me followed the lowest common denominator.


and also of course masons are slaves,you belong to a big club and you do as your masters tell you.


Once again I disagree, I am no-ones slave, nobody tells me which way the wind blows.
A big club......maybe, or not.....I think not, compared to other clubs, 3000,000 odd members (some more odd than others....) I have yet to experiance anyone telling me what to do in the way you mean.


No chains around my feet but i,m not free .I have been around a while to see the light from the dark.


Not feeling or thinking you are free can't be a good thing, I sympathise, try being more positive perhaps? I don't know what to suggest.



I always thought apprenticeships were for people who needed skills like joiners, plumbers, brickies, mechanics,etc etc ,something Britain is short of,not secret clubs.


I perhaps should have added to that, I did four years as a Joiner. Sadly despite the civil service lies there is not really a shortage of Craftsmen. Especially currently.



BTW glad you like the song,and no way do i advocate people to burn anything down physically,only love works.

I don't remember you saying you did agree with Arson!

Then you do it again with Chef's song!

Do what I do when someone tells you to do something you don't want to. Tell them to suck on your Chocolate salty balls!

[lightgiver]

I think we are as transparent as is possible, however, as you don't, please keep asking or commenting and hopefully you'll get the answers. The same thing applies to anyone here really. The only difficulty would arise when our answers are not believed.




Once again I have to say that we are not a secret society, I think that idea unfortunately carries on from the old days when members were selected as such, and membership was only likely to come from a narrow range of professionals. Fortunately times have changed and now almost anyone can join, which makes things a a lot more interesting.
There have not been any 'secrets' in Freemasonry for ages in reality!




You're preaching to the Choir brother, so was I, but I raised myself up when all the others around me followed the lowest common denominator.



Once again I disagree, I am no-ones slave, nobody tells me which way the wind blows.
A big club......maybe, or not.....I think not, compared to other clubs, 3000,000 odd members (some more odd than others....) I have yet to experiance anyone telling me what to do in the way you mean.



Not feeling or thinking you are free can't be a good thing, I sympathise, try being more positive perhaps? I don't know what to suggest.




I perhaps should have added to that, I did four years as a Joiner. Sadly despite the civil service lies there is not really a shortage of Craftsmen. Especially currently.




I don't remember you saying you did agree with Arson!

Then you do it again with Chef's song!

Do what I do when someone tells you to do something you don't want to. Tell them to suck on your Chocolate salty balls!


He he :D:D

I love them chocolatey salty balls,they make me laugh,something masons could do with a sense of humour,and oh coming out of the closet well and truly :eek::D

and not being called secretive behind closed doors doing funny things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyuhhH2g5lY

and no i do not agree with arson,but in Ireland shooting someone in the knee caps, extortion kidnapping and blowing people up used to be the norm :eek::cool:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army

and i should know being an ex service man.;) and i believe you but i do not believe the corrupt top level masons east BEAST :confused::D


see ya around brother.:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnNYXgV7L-c

[getmeout]

Not feeling or thinking you are free can't be a good thing, I sympathise, try being more positive perhaps? I don't know what to suggest.


Are we supposed to pretend we are free? If i were to do that i'd be in jail..

[lightgiver]

Are we supposed to pretend we are free? If i were to do that i'd be in jail..

I feel a lot would be ;):D i prefer prana but i feel people should be free to choose their own variety of spiritual intoxication.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5CX84lOQSU

and to chill to,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjOL5eBD3tU

Life is short so make it sweet until you come back and do it again.

[thentherewere4]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3330/3290800998_9e4e1f83ba.jpg?v=1234973041
This map show the location of the burnt out Lodge (Lodge Galen Glasgow No 1285), circled in purple in the bottom right hand corner. The large red circle loosley denotes a part of the district of Glasgow known as 'Scotstoun'. Scotstounhill train station is marked with the red cross.

Aunty Diane and John Mccann live in Scotstoun, I have no idea where. Furthermore I have no idea if Uncle John is a Free Mason like Gerry Mccann.
If he were he might know of the Free Masons Lodge in Ardery Street, as it seems to be the nearest Free Masons Lodge to his home. It would be convenient for him if he were a Free Mason, but I guess we'll never know.

Bankhead Primary School, Diane Mccanns place of work, is of course quite nearby:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3625/3290930036_a067cd0804.jpg?v=1234976627
The school is marked on this map marked in the red circle (top left), again the Free Masons Lodge is marked in the purple circle in the right hand corner. This is the school where on the 1st of June 2007 the pupils held the first of many celebrations a la Mccann, involving balloons.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3299/3290957954_00cf3807cf.jpg?v=1234977627
Here is one of the wee laddies at the school doing his patriotic duty for Diane.

Someone, I know not who, has posted a video on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUGoE0GBtIE&eurl=http://the3arguidos.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=28556&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30&feature=player_embedded
This is a short video of the aftermath of the fire at 'Galen Lodge Glasgow', and it's just what you might expect to see, a very big mess. The fact that no one lost their life in this inferno, when the Masonic Hall, is itself, bounded on all 4 sides with habitable dwellings is a real credit to the firecrews that attended.

This is as still from the video:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3458/3305565373_029ef9c6e3.jpg?v=1235472997
The roof of the building in the foreground, some sort of bathhouse, library, church hall, public building, is Victorian in date, as is much of this part of Glasgow. The roof has ventilation running along the top, and the roof covering is traditional and unrenovated. The slates on the roof are exactly that - slates. The Masonic Hall appears, in construction, to be of the same era as this other building, and you would naturally expect to see, the same roof slates on it, or are they?
When you look more closely at the picture it is obvious that the roof covering is not slate. The tiles are not the same in colour, texture, or shape as on the other buildings in the area. The reason for that is the Free Masons have renovated the building at sometime in the recent past and replaced the original slates with concrete tiles.
Here is a close up of the concrete tiles on the roof of the Masonic Hall:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3536/3306396836_18d8e09bbc.jpg?v=1235472832

When the MccTeamm out in Portugal needed mobile phones you may recall that based on the 'Excellence of Secrecy' thread on the 3arguidos forum, it was established, (with help from poster Santacoloma and based on evidence supplied in the PJs disclosed interview transcripts with Kate Mccann) that a roofing company called 'Sandtoft' appeared to be the suppliers of the Mccanns and OBrian &Tanners phones.
Sandtoft is based just outside Doncaster, presumably on a site where the raw materials for the mass production of concrete tiles is to be found. The MD of Santoft is Mr.S.Oldridge, and it was he who was to be seen so energetically canvassing for the bussiness of Free Masons everywhere:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3262/3198531891_f7af509acf.jpg?v=1232030584
His proud boast from the podium was that his factory produced enough tiles to roof over 40,000 houses in the UK each and every year.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3554/3305567123_d6f5cdb986.jpg?v=1235472777
The Masonic Lodges and Halls throughot the UK all have roofs, and from time to time as with most old buildings, renovations need to be carried out. The roofs leak, become unstable, and might even blow away if not properly maintained. There are numerous Masonic buildings, the above picture is a small selection of such buildings. These were found without too much searching, mainly in the PE, LN, and DN postcodes.
The maintainece of all these roofs would need a large facility, to be able to offer price, delivery, and consistent supply. Oldridge and his company Sandtoft appears to offer the Free Masons just that.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3305566287_5efe5fe1ef.jpg?v=1235472907
I suppose I am not too surprised to see that it is Sandtofts 'economic' 'versatile' and 'ideal for renovations', the Double Roman Tile, that adorns the now blackened timbers of The Galen Lodge Glasgows Masonic Hall. A 'Tyler' for the Free Masons as Oldridge is, must indeed be, a most reliable source of secure communications equipment for the Mccanns.

[branjo]

Maybe it was a crazy candle light ceremony that just got out of hand and they said "ah fuck it we'll just blame it on the vandals".

Instead of the truth that "Brother John got pissed on cognac and with the masonic ritual of having his pants around his ankles, knocked a shit load of candles over and the place went up like a bush fire". :D

[hellosatellites]

Maybe it was a crazy candle light ceremony that just got out of hand and they said "ah fuck it we'll just blame it on the vandals".

Instead of the truth that "Brother John got pissed on cognac and with the masonic ritual of having his pants around his ankles, knocked a shit load of candles over and the place went up like a bush fire". :D

Lol

[hadabusa]

Common criminals, the lot of them.

from a FMOTL perspective, thats a very stupid thing to say.

whos the judge to claim whos criminal?

whats a judge?
whats an administrator?
:)

whats the law?

what happened to cannon law?

of course, i dont think such attacks are any good.

i merely find it interesting how a mason likes his laws.

a mason thinks laws are good.

are they?
a real peacefull world can only become real without laws.obv, other factors are important too.but...

do masons want a peacefull or a lawfull world ?
;)

[grandsecretary]

The two things should go hand in hand.

[keystone]

Maybe it was a crazy candle light ceremony that just got out of hand and they said "ah fuck it we'll just blame it on the vandals".

Instead of the truth that "Brother John got pissed on cognac and with the masonic ritual of having his pants around his ankles, knocked a shit load of candles over and the place went up like a bush fire". :D

:D

[endlessvista]

So you approve of arson do you?



I am not at all happy about this. The reason for this is sectarian. The local Chuck lowlifes in a tit for tat with the local Jaffa scumbags. One night a Masonic/Orange Hall gets torched, the following night a Gaelic Sports Club or Irish Dancing Hall. Who suffers, kids mainly.

I have no love of Masons/OO but this is disgusting and motivated by sectarianism. The fact that the majority of Catholics and Protestants in Ulster are doing their best to live in peace only makes this more serious.

[grandsecretary]

I am not at all happy about this. The reason for this is sectarian. The local Chuck lowlifes in a tit for tat with the local Jaffa scumbags. One night a Masonic/Orange Hall gets torched, the following night a Gaelic Sports Club or Irish Dancing Hall. Who suffers, kids mainly.

I have no love of Masons/OO but this is disgusting and motivated by sectarianism. The fact that the majority of Catholics and Protestants in Ulster are doing their best to live in peace only makes this more serious.

Good post, and IMHO it shows a very responsible attitude. A security guard or a night watchman could easily have been trapped in a burning building, or a fire fighter injured or killed fighting the fire.

[nihil]

.http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9052/sweetvandals.jpg

and they'll just blame it on the vandals
.