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clozaril
19-01-2009, 03:01 PM
first signs of codex ?

Alternative therapy 'crackdown'
By Nick Triggle
Health reporter, BBC News


The head of the UK's first regulator for complementary medicine has promised to get tough with the industry and drive out cowboy therapists.

Maggie Dunn, co-chairman of the Complementary and Natural Healthcare Council (CNHC), said it was time customers were given proper assurances.

She said the regulator, which is being launched on Monday, would clean up the industry used by one in five people.

And she estimated thousands of clinics may go out of business in the process.

The main plank of the council's work will be to operate a register of practitioners.


It will not judge clinics on whether therapies are effective, but rather on whether they operate a professional and safe business.

To get on to the government-backed register, therapists will have to show they have the right training and experience, abide by a code of conduct and ensure they have insurance in place.

Ms Dunn told the BBC News website: "I think most of the profession is operating to good standards, but we know not everyone will be able to register.

"If that means that people who are not up to scratch are driven out of business, I will not cry for them."

There are over 150,000 complementary medicine therapists working in the UK.

Ms Dunn said she suspected between half and two thirds of them would make it on to the register which would allow them to use the regulator logo on literature and display in shops.

Of the rest, some would just need a little extra training to make the grade, but that would still leave many thousands who were not good enough.

Regulator's standards

As applying to the register is voluntary, Ms Dunn accepted that some therapists might not put themselves forward.

But she said they would be found out in the end as "within a year or so" customers will be looking to only use therapists who have met the regulator's standards.

Ms Dunn said: "It won't take long for customers to starting asking whether a practitioner is registered or searching on our website for ones that are.

"They will then vote with their feet."

At first the register will be open to massage and nutritional therapists, but in the coming months it will be rolled out to areas such as aromatherapy, reflexology and homeopathy.

"It is easy to think these are all low-risk specialities, but I know someone who had a rib broken by a masseur so it is important we have proper regulation."

Edzard Ernst, professor of complementary medicine at the University of Exeter's Peninsula Medical School, said: "There does need to be more rigour in the regulation of complementary medicine as there will certainly be cowboys out there.

"However, I have concerns that the regulator does not have mandatory powers and is not looking at the efficacy of these therapies."

Health minister Ben Bradshaw welcomed the establishment of the CNHC.

"Members of the public who use these therapies will be able to check whether the practitioner they're seeing is registered with the CNHC," he said.

"If they are, they have the reassurance of knowing that they have had to meet minimum standards of qualification and that they have signed up to a rigorous code of conduct.

"Practitioners too will benefit by increased public confidence."

Therapists will have to pay £45 a year to join the register.

pinkgrapefruit
20-01-2009, 12:29 AM
I was listening to Radio 5 after the Liverpool Everton match tonight and they were talking about this very subject. There was the woman who was for alternative medicine, the guy who was totally dismissive of it and the presenter. I didn’t catch it all but this was what I heard...

The guy was saying that there is no cure for arthritis and that those that believed they have been cured of it through alternative medicine were imagining it and it was all in their mind. He followed that by saying that if he was hurt in a car crash he would rather go to A&E than seek a herbalist.

The woman then told a story of a friend who twisted his knee and went to A&E, where on examination they discovered a torn cartilage and booked him into emergency surgery in four days time (yes, I smiled at that). The next day he happened to meet an osteopath who treated the knee with whatever and after a couple of days he was able to walk on it again so he cancelled the operation. After a couple of weeks the knee was normal again.

The irony of his next comment totally passed him by... he said that “even doctors make mistakes”. Which would have been to open up this guys knee for no reason.

clozaril
20-01-2009, 03:45 PM
i hope it is not a government body who is regulating this. and i would like to believe this is dissimilar to the rockerfeller led outlawing of alternative therapy that happened early last century in the us.

rastamasta
20-01-2009, 05:28 PM
i hope it is not a government body who is regulating this. and i would like to believe this is dissimilar to the rockerfeller led outlawing of alternative therapy that happened early last century in the us.

unlucky dude that's exactly what it is.

Many psychotherapists and counsellors are disturbed and unconvinced by current proposals for state regulation through the Health Professions Council, also known as statutory regulation

http://www.allianceforcandp.org/pages/

http://www.hpc-uk.org/index.asp

drhemp
20-01-2009, 06:11 PM
This is a government body that has been set up with the specific aim of destroying complimentary/ alternative therapy.

scotfree
20-01-2009, 06:16 PM
My friend is a Spiritual Healer, Medium and tarot card reader.

Inumerable people, [and myself], claim she has profoundly
helped them both in health and spiritually.

She believe she was burnt as a witch in a previous life.
Who will light the fire this time round?

cafetimes1991
20-01-2009, 06:18 PM
On a happier note, I pointed out in my local health food store that some of their products contained aspartame today, and they agreed to remove the items. Whether they do or not remains to be seen, I'll post back soon.

halleyscomet
20-01-2009, 08:17 PM
i hope it is not a government body who is regulating this. and i would like to believe this is dissimilar to the rockerfeller led outlawing of alternative therapy that happened early last century in the us.

Alternative Medicine practitioners did a pretty good job of neutering the actual legislation. The effectiveness of any given treatment isn't even part of the evaluation process. All that's really being regulated are business practices. Skeptics groups see this regulation as a colossal, toothless failure.

Basically it's bureaucracy for the sake of bureaucracy with no real accomplishments by any measure.

beldazar
20-01-2009, 08:54 PM
On a happier note, I pointed out in my local health food store that some of their products contained aspartame today, and they agreed to remove the items. Whether they do or not remains to be seen, I'll post back soon.


Lets hope they do hey? You are lucky to have a health food shop in your town, there hasnt been one here for about 2 years now :(


Pinkgrapefruit, maybe there isnt a cure for arthritis, I watched David Icke on his first video cast for the Q and A thread yesterday, he looks to be in a lot of pain. I would have thought that on his journeys he might have found a cure somewhere.....

They obviously want lots more money to go to the pharmaceutical companies and do more damage to people by giving them damaging drugs

the article you posted Clozaril missed off the bit on the bottom that was on the subtitles on BBC news 24, they mentioned the amount of people out of business, I cant remember the number but it was a lot! :(

clozaril
22-01-2009, 08:27 PM
i work in a residential care home for 'mentally ill' and have been told in 10 yrs there will be no more of these homes.

my manageress told me this week to train in alternative therapies so i'm quite confused as to what is going on but want to be ahead of the curve.

halleyscomet
22-01-2009, 08:31 PM
i work in a residential care home for 'mentally ill' and have been told in 10 yrs there will be no more of these homes.

my manageress told me this week to train in alternative therapies so i'm quite confused as to what is going on but want to be ahead of the curve.

Is that related to the law being discussed? What are you doing in your practice that would fall under "alternative" therapies?

clozaril
22-01-2009, 08:37 PM
no i don't and can't legally do anything alternative but because of new direction for treating mentally ill and social service and local authorities wanting more sheltered housing and less residential care homes our manageress believes we'll be shut down in the next 2-3 yrs and she seems to think alternative therapy is the way to go

beldazar
22-01-2009, 09:18 PM
i work in a residential care home for 'mentally ill' and have been told in 10 yrs there will be no more of these homes.

my manageress told me this week to train in alternative therapies so i'm quite confused as to what is going on but want to be ahead of the curve.

I think when they say of a crackdown, it will be only those who train in 'government run' alternative therapy training which I bet, would mean teaching them wrongly and quite possibly, having diverse effects! :(

tom bombadil
22-01-2009, 11:29 PM
i work in a residential care home for 'mentally ill' and have been told in 10 yrs there will be no more of these homes.

my manageress told me this week to train in alternative therapies so i'm quite confused as to what is going on but want to be ahead of the curve.

It is all to do with the treatment of people at home rather than in a 'home'.

When in a home, folk are looked after 24-7.

When at home, the same folk are only attended to for a short time.

It all equates to less expenditure on the govenments side and a greater onus on a family members guilt.


My Gold Berry works in the homes (at home) of these pleasant folk, and understands it better than I. But in a nutshell, its as I said.


Tom.

clozaril
23-01-2009, 12:07 AM
yeah to stay on an acute ward it's around £900-1000 a week and to stay in a residential it's around £350 a week, plus with the coming changes for income support, it's not really a question of care and wellbeing, it is about finance.