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tagmtl

18-01-2009, 02:55 PM

rhydra

18-01-2009, 04:49 PM

Another level of cynicism about leaders, be they national or "popular" is if they are not fulfilling some purpose to the NWO, be it intentionally or otherwise, they are removed. Chavez is still going, so are many who are supposed to be anti NWO but the NWO seem to use them to their own advantage, the convenient bogyman. They sometimes tolerate people who are against them, or say that they are, even allow damage to be taken because that damage is then transferred to those who they need to support them.

btnh47

18-01-2009, 08:38 PM

keenly

18-01-2009, 10:44 PM

ABSOLUTELY NOT

he is a vatican servant.

opposame

zarah

18-01-2009, 10:49 PM

ABSOLUTELY NOT

he is a vatican servant.

opposame

Do you have any sources which back up your assertion?

size_of_light

18-01-2009, 10:58 PM

He makes a few good noises, but the telling thing for me is that he never goes into any real detail. Vague reference to 'controllers at the Pentagon'? Why not issue a detailed and damning overview of what he really thinks that means?

Same goes for all of the supposed sworn enemies of the US like Kim Il Jung, Ahmadinejad and even old Saddam. They rattle their sabres and grizzle about the US but seem far too afraid to actually produce any substantial evidence of what's going on, even with all their own extensive intelligence resources and contacts.

We do more on this forum to expose the corruption behind US imperialism than any of these leaders who profess to oppose it so vehemently, which makes me believe that you don't get into a position like that (and stay there for very long) unless - at the very least - there's a tacit understanding on your part that you need to keep your mouth shut about certain things.

meksar

18-01-2009, 11:16 PM

keenly

18-01-2009, 11:34 PM

Do you have any sources which back up your assertion?

you should already know

I'll get links tomorrow

this one has a pic of him bowing and kissing the pope for a start
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican37.htm
brilliant info btw

keenly

18-01-2009, 11:37 PM

He is on the Rothschild/Rockefeller "to do" list no doubt,he is most likely tied to Vatican/Jesuits but with the banksters being at the peak of the pyramid with the rest of the top ranking occultists if they say he has to go then nobody can argue.If a expendable Zionist pissed off the Jesuit generals then they could get it too, it's just like the mafia if your high up in the Zionist and Jesuit evilarchy then you can't be touched by a lesser man.At about three minutes into this interview the late Aaron Russo mentions they have intentions for Chavez.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA

I agree with that.

However the bankers are KNIGHTS OF MALTA; all knights of malta are vatican controlled or least work with the vatican hence PAPAL SMOM; grandmaster is matthew festing btw.

nick rockefeller is NOWHERE near the top of the pyramid. He probably doesn't have a clue what is going on; he just gets told.

meksar

18-01-2009, 11:47 PM

The Vatican controlled the old world,the Zionist's control the New world and they both have one common ancestor which is Babylon.

14april2000

19-01-2009, 03:11 AM

Do you have any sources which back up your assertion?

Yes zarah here it comes :

BEWARE of FIDEL CASTRO & HUGO CHAVEZ

"ITS KNOWN AS CONTROLLED OPPOSITION"

http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_Mind_II/index.php?showtopic=12

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=13500

They are both puppet of notorious Jesuit order witch never forget or forgives anyone that goes up against them. The Zionsts are working for jesuit order. They are hofjuden or in english papal court jews traitor to there own people.
Only loyal to the the Venetian black nobility bloodlines witch are pure Roman catholic gentiles.

Consult Makow's work on Svali. She stated that the Luciferian elite only allow Jews into Illuminati if they swear off the written Torah and submit to Lucifer and the Babylon Mystery religion. The written Torah the true basic for the jewish religion.

Quote: Svali 2002 interview with Henry Markow
Yes, there are some very powerful Jewish people in this group. For instance, the Rothschild family literally runs the financial empire in Europe (and indirectly the States), and are a well-known Jewish family. I have also known people whose parents were Jewish diamond merchants in the group, and at every level. But to rise to power in the Illuminati, a Jewish person at night would be forced to renounce their faith, and to give their first allegiance to Lucifer and the beliefs of the Illuminati. In return for this betrayal, they believe that power (financial) and rewards come; and in one sense they do, but at too high a price (losing their eternal soul).

Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy

http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html

Zionist Sabbatian Talmudic Masonic Labor Court Apostate Jews
We hear all day long from when we were children that the Jews run everything. This is totally incorrect and it gets installed in the populations so the real shadowy ELders are smokescreened and the Jews take the blame. The Zionist jews of Israel are simply Freemasons and therefore subservant to the Superior General of the Jesuit Order. The U.S is controlled by The Jesuit Vatican and their Mafiosi. If Jews ruled the world then why does Israel need U.S permission to activate their nukes? Why will the Vatican own 60%+ of Jerusalem including Temple Mount, thanks to Jesuit trained Shimon Peres? What gives the impression that Israel rules the U.S is simply because they are both ruled by the Council on Foreign Relations. This of course is controlled by the SMOM and ultimately the Archbishop of New York, Cardinal Egan. Why is it that when Sharon thought he'd annoy the Vatican that he simply gets ELiminated by `The Cup of Borgia' by Vatican spys Peres & Beilin? Then Vatican lackies Olmert, Peres win the ELection and do as the Pope wishes. Peres was straight on a plane for the Vatican after winning!

http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhived_Mind_II/index.php?showforum=5

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showforum=5

januspolanski

19-01-2009, 09:06 AM

Just look at who Obama has appointed to key positions in his gov. It reads like a who s who of the NWO.

keenly

19-01-2009, 01:25 PM

The Vatican controlled the old world,the Zionist's control the New world and they both have one common ancestor which is Babylon.

The jesuits control the new world. Although they are all corrupt and evil and work together.

obama has a jesuit adviser btw; i wonder why?

octopusrex

19-01-2009, 03:37 PM

Have you guys actually considered that NOBODY rules the world and all the shit that we see is just the ordinary chaos of human interactions?

size_of_light

19-01-2009, 03:41 PM

Have you guys actually considered that NOBODY rules the world and all the shit that we see is just the ordinary chaos of human interactions?

Why do you assume ordinary human interactions would be chaotic?

meksar

19-01-2009, 05:55 PM

The "Jewish" people are Khazar's,this means 92% of people who believe they are Semites are actually Eastern European.The royal family are German Khazar's,the Bush family are also Khazar's through Prescott Bushes marriage to the daughter of Herbert Walker(A Zionist banker).The Zionist's are from the synagogue of Satan and have declared war against Christ(humanity).The Jesuits created the fascist dictatorship which was allowed to destroy spirituality in the ancient world and sell people their bastardized version of religion.The Zionist's understood you have to sell people the illusion of freedom while manipulating events from behind the scenes, the whole Illuminati is these two factions working with many others to impose a fascist socialistic global state which will be run from the rebuilt temple of Solomon by Prince William in 2015-2020.

hordeari

19-01-2009, 06:13 PM

dsone

19-01-2009, 06:38 PM

ABSOLUTELY NOT

he is a vatican servant.

opposame

Bullshit, just cause he believes in a religion dont mean nothing to what he is doing, fuck obama, viva Chavez..

14april2000

19-01-2009, 07:06 PM

the (w)hole jesuits rule everything and they are everywhere ... and eric jon phelps crap is just annoying, more than that,

disinfo operative, to ensure total chaos in the alternative scene!! ... alex jones is controlled oposition, gandhi was controlled oposition, my neighbour is controlled opposition.. even the old lady that is selling me fruits&vegetables is a jesuit agent and she is poisoning me while selling me fake organic stuff ...yada yada yada, i mean silly stuff full throttle

soon it'll be David Icke is controlled oposition, when they *(fake truth seekers like leo zagami fraud, eric jon phelps baptist calvinist whatever.. trojan h)* cant find some better theory 'the jesuits and controlled oposition term' pops out every time, am sick of it

eric jon phelps is a fraud, pls stop the jesuits are under my pillow bull..

i'm not saying that hugo chavez is a hero and anti-nwo and we should praise him bla-bla, but if smth or someone deviates little bit from mainline agenda in politics or other that doesn't make it instantly ...............JESUITS agent oh MY god i knew it/controlled opposition total paranoia crap.

This is for hordeari and meksar.

Your Sources to the Khazar conspiracy comes from pure Roman catholic gentile jew hates or protestant gentlie traitors with close connections to the VENETIAN bloodlines in the jesuit order. Who put this kind infomation up on the internet? If Khazar jews really run the world you would not find much infomation about them on the internet because they would shout down any web site with this kind of infomation or better would remove all search words from google,yahoo,msn and all other search engines so it would as hard find as they do with Eric Jon Phelps infomation.

Most conspiracy related research only find jewish connections why?

Because Rome hates the Jews and is framing them.

If Rome hates the Jews why dos black nobilty intermarriage with rich jews?

Like this one the guardian of vatican treasure or the vatican banker Jacob Rothschild, the current head of the Rothschild dynasty, has intermarried with the Sinclair family.

It's just all a con. Bottom line is, Rome is making it look like the Jews are to blame. The late Sherman Skolnick called certain Jews "papal court Jews"--these are Jews loyal to the Vatican and, I might add, traitors to their own people.

So it is scame, i have alway fund it stanges that blue bloods would concider marry a jew. I german they are called Hof-Juden

Most of these Jews at the top are not actually racially Jewish, they descend from the northern parts of modern day Turkey. These Jews are always used as a scapegoat and are placed at the front line while behind them you have black nobility, supposed descendants of Cain.

As for the Jews--yep, scapegoat indeed, and a huge smokescreen.

Consult Makow's work on Svali. She stated that the Luciferian elite allow Jews in if they swear off the written Torah and submit to Lucifer and the Babylon Mystery religion. Did you know that according to Makow, Jacob Rothschild is only half a Jew for example?

OK Is the Talmudic law not Luciferian out of the Babylon Mystery religion I think it is?

Because most information out there is from the Intelligensia working for the Pope's, Knights of Malta. Vatican talk was very hard to come about since say the 1940s. Jesuits control all the education giving you hardly any Reformation information. The Talmud is linked with the Babylonians and is nothing to do with the Torah. These followers of the Pontifex Maximus are Sabbatean Frankists following Lucifer.

Its pretty funny how most bookshops sell things related to David Icke,Alex Jones and its pretty hard to find anything written by Eric Jon Phelps

And wasn't it "Rome" that was reported to have created Radical Islamic Fundamentalist "terrorists"?

Create the "problem", generate public demand for a "fix", then create the "fix"

As they say - All roads lead to Rome - the "Revived Roman Empire" and the one world govt., one world religion, one world money

Yes, the Vatican (not Jesuits as they didn't exist in the 8th century) created Islam...they needed hired thugs to take Jerusalem.

http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html

From Henry Markows 2002 Interview with Svali

Israel

Svali: "The conflict in the Middle East is only to the advantage of the Illuminists. They HATE Israel, and hope one day to see it destroyed, and are biding their time. One of the olive branches offered by the UN when it takes over is that they will prevent war in the Middle East, and this will be greeted with joy by many.

At the same time, the Illuminati covertly supply guns and funds to BOTH sides to keep the conflict fuelled. They are very duplicitous people. They used to funnel guns through the USSR to Palestine, for example, in the name of promoting "friendliness" between the USSR and this state and other Arab nations. Then, the US Illuminists would help funnel guns to Israel, for the same reason.

These people love the game of chess, and see warfare between nations as creating an order out of chaos. The USSR is going to get stronger again. It has too strong a military both openly, and covertly (ALL Illuminati military trainers have visited Russia to learn from them) to sit quietly and quiesciently to the side. In the NWO, they will be stronger than us."

Is the Illuminati a JEWISH conspiracy?

Svali: "Absolutely not. In fact, Hitler and his people (especially Himmler and Goebbels) were top Illuminists. The Illuminati are racist in the extreme, and as a child, I was forced to play "concentration camp" both on my farm in Virginia, and also in Europe in isolated camps in Germany.

The Jews historically fought against the occult (see Deuteronomy and the Old Testament for how God through the Jewish people tried to cleanse the land of the occult groups that were operating there, such as those who worshipped Baal, Ashtarte, and other Canaanite and Babylonian gods.

(from an email to Henry Makow) Yes, there are some very powerful Jewish people in this group. For instance, the Rothschild family literally runs the financial empire in Europe (and indirectly the States), and are a well-known Jewish family. I have also known people whose parents were Jewish diamond merchants in the group, and at every level. But to rise to power in the Illuminati, a Jewish person at night would be forced to renounce their faith, and to give their first allegiance to Lucifer and the beliefs of the Illuminati. In return for this betrayal, they believe that power (financial) and rewards come; and in one sense they do, but at too high a price (losing their eternal soul).

The nazi/concentration camp mentality is very strong, though, and I was told that Hitler, Himmler, Goebel, and others were high-ranking German members of the group (Himmler was higher than the other two), and Mengele their paid puppet as well, who later worked as a high trainer of the American branch between his periods of hiding in South America. They honestly believed that they were acting as agents of their 'gods' to exterminate the Jewish race, and I am so, so sorry that this group has enacted so many horrors on the earth (and so, so glad that I left it).

I hope this helps you. I have always wondered this, though, why some of the highest ranking financial families in the group (baron Rothschild of France is one of the 13 European lords, or "kings" that run the group in Europe, and sits on the World Council) are Jewish, yet the group espouses hatred of their own race."

ARE THEY RACIST?

Svali: "Lots of Illuminists have Fourth Reich programming inside. The Illuminati are racist, and have a very "Aryan" outlook. They believe strongly in the rule of the "pure" and "intelligent" by their definitions, and in their ceremonies, there will occasionally be minorities killed in ceremonies.

They are trying to breed a "genetically superior" race to rule, with their children and descendants. They are also followers of Plato's Republic, and believe that they will be the ones to usher in this "Utopian" rule with the NWO in their opinion. In their Utopia, the intelligentsia will rule, and the sheep like masses will follow their leaders (that is their view of the world; that the occult leaders are "enlightened' and intelligent, while the average person is a "sheep" to be led by the nose)."

keenly

19-01-2009, 09:09 PM

This is for hordeari and meksar.

Your Sources to the Khazar conspiracy comes from pure Roman catholic gentile jew hates or protestant gentlie traitors with close connections to the VENETIAN bloodlines in the jesuit order. Who put this kind infomation up on the internet? If Khazar jews really run the world you would not find much infomation about them on the internet because they would shout down any web site with this kind of infomation or better would remove all search words from googleyahoo,msn and all other search engines so it would as hard find as they do with Eric Jon Phelps infomation.

Most conspiracy related research only find jewish connections why?

Because Rome hates the Jews and is framing them.

If Rome hates the Jews why dos black nobilty intermarriage with rich jews?

Like this one the guardian of vatican treasure or the vatican banker Jacob Rothschild, the current head of the Rothschild dynasty, has intermarried with the Sinclair family.

It's just all a con. Bottom line is, Rome is making it look like the Jews are to blame. The late Sherman Skolnick called certain Jews "papal court Jews"--these are Jews loyal to the Vatican and, I might add, traitors to their own people.

So it is scame, i have alway fund it stanges that blue bloods would concider marry a jew. I german they are called Hof-Juden

Most of these Jews at the top are not actually racially Jewish, they descend from the northern parts of modern day Turkey. These Jews are always used as a scapegoat and are placed at the front line while behind them you have black nobility, supposed descendants of Cain.

As for the Jews--yep, scapegoat indeed, and a huge smokescreen.

Consult Makow's work on Svali. She stated that the Luciferian elite allow Jews in if they swear off the written Torah and submit to Lucifer and the Babylon Mystery religion. Did you know that according to Makow, Jacob Rothschild is only half a Jew for example?

OK Is the Talmudic law not Luciferian out of the Babylon Mystery religion I think it is?

Because most information out there is from the Intelligensia working for the Pope's, Knights of Malta. Vatican talk was very hard to come about since say the 1940s. Jesuits control all the education giving you hardly any Reformation information. The Talmud is linked with the Babylonians and is nothing to do with the Torah. These followers of the Pontifex Maximus are Sabbatean Frankists following Lucifer.

Its pretty funny how most bookshops sell things related to David Icke,Alex Jones and its pretty hard to find anything written by Eric Jon Phelps

And wasn't it "Rome" that was reported to have created Radical Islamic Fundamentalist "terrorists"?

Create the "problem", generate public demand for a "fix", then create the "fix"

As they say - All roads lead to Rome - the "Revived Roman Empire" and the one world govt., one world religion, one world money

Yes, the Vatican (not Jesuits as they didn't exist in the 8th century) created Islam...they needed hired thugs to take Jerusalem.

http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html

From Henry Markows 2002 Interview with Svali

Israel

Svali: "The conflict in the Middle East is only to the advantage of the Illuminists. They HATE Israel, and hope one day to see it destroyed, and are biding their time. One of the olive branches offered by the UN when it takes over is that they will prevent war in the Middle East, and this will be greeted with joy by many.

At the same time, the Illuminati covertly supply guns and funds to BOTH sides to keep the conflict fuelled. They are very duplicitous people. They used to funnel guns through the USSR to Palestine, for example, in the name of promoting "friendliness" between the USSR and this state and other Arab nations. Then, the US Illuminists would help funnel guns to Israel, for the same reason.

These people love the game of chess, and see warfare between nations as creating an order out of chaos. The USSR is going to get stronger again. It has too strong a military both openly, and covertly (ALL Illuminati military trainers have visited Russia to learn from them) to sit quietly and quiesciently to the side. In the NWO, they will be stronger than us."

Is the Illuminati a JEWISH conspiracy?

Svali: "Absolutely not. In fact, Hitler and his people (especially Himmler and Goebbels) were top Illuminists. The Illuminati are racist in the extreme, and as a child, I was forced to play "concentration camp" both on my farm in Virginia, and also in Europe in isolated camps in Germany.

The Jews historically fought against the occult (see Deuteronomy and the Old Testament for how God through the Jewish people tried to cleanse the land of the occult groups that were operating there, such as those who worshipped Baal, Ashtarte, and other Canaanite and Babylonian gods.

(from an email to Henry Makow) Yes, there are some very powerful Jewish people in this group. For instance, the Rothschild family literally runs the financial empire in Europe (and indirectly the States), and are a well-known Jewish family. I have also known people whose parents were Jewish diamond merchants in the group, and at every level. But to rise to power in the Illuminati, a Jewish person at night would be forced to renounce their faith, and to give their first allegiance to Lucifer and the beliefs of the Illuminati. In return for this betrayal, they believe that power (financial) and rewards come; and in one sense they do, but at too high a price (losing their eternal soul).

The nazi/concentration camp mentality is very strong, though, and I was told that Hitler, Himmler, Goebel, and others were high-ranking German members of the group (Himmler was higher than the other two), and Mengele their paid puppet as well, who later worked as a high trainer of the American branch between his periods of hiding in South America. They honestly believed that they were acting as agents of their 'gods' to exterminate the Jewish race, and I am so, so sorry that this group has enacted so many horrors on the earth (and so, so glad that I left it).

I hope this helps you. I have always wondered this, though, why some of the highest ranking financial families in the group (baron Rothschild of France is one of the 13 European lords, or "kings" that run the group in Europe, and sits on the World Council) are Jewish, yet the group espouses hatred of their own race."

ARE THEY RACIST?

Svali: "Lots of Illuminists have Fourth Reich programming inside. The Illuminati are racist, and have a very "Aryan" outlook. They believe strongly in the rule of the "pure" and "intelligent" by their definitions, and in their ceremonies, there will occasionally be minorities killed in ceremonies.

They are trying to breed a "genetically superior" race to rule, with their children and descendants. They are also followers of Plato's Republic, and believe that they will be the ones to usher in this "Utopian" rule with the NWO in their opinion. In their Utopia, the intelligentsia will rule, and the sheep like masses will follow their leaders (that is their view of the world; that the occult leaders are "enlightened' and intelligent, while the average person is a "sheep" to be led by the nose)."

INDEED

Icke, texe marrs, alex jones etc are all frauds

phelps is REAL;that is why his book is banned in shops
p.s I do not agree with his views on race; infact i hate them but he has a personal friend who was a jesuit and has REAL inside information.

keenly

19-01-2009, 09:10 PM

hordeari

19-01-2009, 09:52 PM

You are very ill informed and have done little research.

leo is REAL. Icke is a fraud.
Chavez IS controlled opposition.

yes of course, i am a jesuit agent, and so is david icke.. :eek:

and now u can go back to your fairytales...like lie-o zagami

14april2000

19-01-2009, 10:44 PM

You are very ill informed and have done little research.

leo is REAL. Icke is a fraud.
Chavez IS controlled opposition.

I would be very carefull about what leo has to say, he is an insider of the Venetian black nobility bloodlines. You don`t no his true motives/intension to leave the brotherhood, and and start to talking about them. He is still live right they having give him the Cup of Borgia and place him in a wooded box. He can`t have exposed anything they don`t want us to hear, maybe he is still working for his familiy and his infomation is half truths/ half lies and they are just playing a game with us the well-informed people” or human shepp as they prefer to call us.

Svali 2002 interview with Henry Markow
About five years ago, when I left the Illuminati, approximately 1% of the US population was either part of the Illuminati, sympathetic to it, or a victim of Mind Control (and therefore considered useable). While this may not sound like many, imagine 1% of the population highly trained in the use of armaments, crowd control, psychological and behavioral techniques, armed with weapons and linked to paramilitary groups."

Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy

http://www.henrymakow.com/141002.html

steevo

19-01-2009, 10:52 PM

meksar

20-01-2009, 12:25 AM

14april2000

20-01-2009, 02:26 AM

Eric Jon Phelps is a Zionist shill, there is no doubt that the Jesuits have a massive amount of influence in the ordo ad chao agenda,but the Zionists are far more slick they use things which people are less likely to rebel over.

Your Sources meksar to the Khazar conspiracy comes from pure Roman catholic gentile jew hates or protestant gentlie traitors with close connections to the VENETIAN bloodlines in the jesuit order. Who put this kind of infomation up on the internet? If the Khazar jews really run the world you would not find much infomation about them on the internet because they would shout down any web site with this kind of infomation or better they would remove all search words from google,yahoo,msn and all other search engines so it would be as hard find to it as it is with Eric Jon Phelps infomation.

Most conspiracy related research only find jewish connections why?

Because Rome hates the Jews and is framing them.

If Rome hates the Jews why dos black nobilty intermarriage with rich jews?

Like this one the guardian of vatican treasure or the vatican banker Jacob Rothschild, the current head of the Rothschild dynasty, has intermarried with the Sinclair family.

It's just all a con. Bottom line is, Rome is making it look like the Jews are to blame. The late Sherman Skolnick called certain Jews "papal court Jews"--these are Jews loyal to the Vatican and, I might add, traitors to their own people.

So it is scame, i have alway fund it stanges that blue bloods would concider marry a jew. I german they are called Hof-Juden

Most of these Jews at the top are not actually racially Jewish, they descend from the northern parts of modern day Turkey. These Jews are always used as a scapegoat and are placed at the front line while behind them you have black nobility, supposed descendants of Cain.

As for the Jews--yep, scapegoat indeed, and a huge smokescreen.

Consult Makow's work on Svali. She stated that the Luciferian elite allow Jews in if they swear off the written Torah and submit to Lucifer and the Babylon Mystery religion. Did you know that according to Makow, Jacob Rothschild is only half a Jew for example?

OK Is the Talmudic law not Luciferian out of the Babylon Mystery religion I think it is?

Because most information out there is from the Intelligensia working for the Pope's, Knights of Malta. Vatican talk was very hard to come about since say the 1940s. Jesuits control all the education giving you hardly any Reformation information. The Talmud is linked with the Babylonians and is nothing to do with the Torah. These followers of the Pontifex Maximus are Sabbatean Frankists following Lucifer.

Its pretty funny how most bookshops sell things related to David Icke,Alex Jones and its pretty hard to find anything written by Eric Jon Phelps

And wasn't it "Rome" that was reported to have created Radical Islamic Fundamentalist "terrorists"?

Create the "problem", generate public demand for a "fix", then create the "fix"

As they say - All roads lead to Rome - the "Revived Roman Empire" and the one world govt., one world religion, one world money

Yes, the Vatican (not Jesuits as they didn't exist in the 8th century) created Islam...they needed hired thugs to take Jerusalem.

Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy
http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html

From Henry Markows 2002 Interview with Svali

Israel

Svali: "The conflict in the Middle East is only to the advantage of the Illuminists. They HATE Israel, and hope one day to see it destroyed, and are biding their time. One of the olive branches offered by the UN when it takes over is that they will prevent war in the Middle East, and this will be greeted with joy by many.

At the same time, the Illuminati covertly supply guns and funds to BOTH sides to keep the conflict fuelled. They are very duplicitous people. They used to funnel guns through the USSR to Palestine, for example, in the name of promoting "friendliness" between the USSR and this state and other Arab nations. Then, the US Illuminists would help funnel guns to Israel, for the same reason.

These people love the game of chess, and see warfare between nations as creating an order out of chaos. The USSR is going to get stronger again. It has too strong a military both openly, and covertly (ALL Illuminati military trainers have visited Russia to learn from them) to sit quietly and quiesciently to the side. In the NWO, they will be stronger than us."

Is the Illuminati a JEWISH conspiracy?

Svali: "Absolutely not. In fact, Hitler and his people (especially Himmler and Goebbels) were top Illuminists. The Illuminati are racist in the extreme, and as a child, I was forced to play "concentration camp" both on my farm in Virginia, and also in Europe in isolated camps in Germany.

The Jews historically fought against the occult (see Deuteronomy and the Old Testament for how God through the Jewish people tried to cleanse the land of the occult groups that were operating there, such as those who worshipped Baal, Ashtarte, and other Canaanite and Babylonian gods.

(from an email to Henry Makow) Yes, there are some very powerful Jewish people in this group. For instance, the Rothschild family literally runs the financial empire in Europe (and indirectly the States), and are a well-known Jewish family. I have also known people whose parents were Jewish diamond merchants in the group, and at every level. But to rise to power in the Illuminati, a Jewish person at night would be forced to renounce their faith, and to give their first allegiance to Lucifer and the beliefs of the Illuminati. In return for this betrayal, they believe that power (financial) and rewards come; and in one sense they do, but at too high a price (losing their eternal soul).

The nazi/concentration camp mentality is very strong, though, and I was told that Hitler, Himmler, Goebel, and others were high-ranking German members of the group (Himmler was higher than the other two), and Mengele their paid puppet as well, who later worked as a high trainer of the American branch between his periods of hiding in South America. They honestly believed that they were acting as agents of their 'gods' to exterminate the Jewish race, and I am so, so sorry that this group has enacted so many horrors on the earth (and so, so glad that I left it).

I hope this helps you. I have always wondered this, though, why some of the highest ranking financial families in the group (baron Rothschild of France is one of the 13 European lords, or "kings" that run the group in Europe, and sits on the World Council) are Jewish, yet the group espouses hatred of their own race."

ARE THEY RACIST?

Svali: "Lots of Illuminists have Fourth Reich programming inside. The Illuminati are racist, and have a very "Aryan" outlook. They believe strongly in the rule of the "pure" and "intelligent" by their definitions, and in their ceremonies, there will occasionally be minorities killed in ceremonies.

They are trying to breed a "genetically superior" race to rule, with their children and descendants. They are also followers of Plato's Republic, and believe that they will be the ones to usher in this "Utopian" rule with the NWO in their opinion. In their Utopia, the intelligentsia will rule, and the sheep like masses will follow their leaders (that is their view of the world; that the occult leaders are "enlightened' and intelligent, while the average person is a "sheep" to be led by the nose)."

14april2000

20-01-2009, 02:35 AM

THERE ARE SOME GOOD GUYS IN THIS WORLD.

From what I have seen and heard, Chavez is a good guy....but as always, keep an open mind. If he is genuinely against the NWO, then we have to show support and not ASSUME that he is a shill, because if we ALWAYS ASSUME that the APPARENT good guys are shills just because they are not dead yet, then we get nowhere in spreading the truth. Anyone in "power" is useful to the truth movement. When the awakening of the masses happens, then there will be no real need for "leaders" IMO.

steevo every politician is a NWO Asset there is no exception regardless of what they are trying to tell you in the "tell lie version" = "the tv" or elsewhere "even on the internet" and if they really are good guys or womam for that mater they will never be elected into office.

BEWARE of FIDEL CASTRO & HUGO CHAVEZ

"ITS KNOWN AS CONTROLLED OPPOSITION"

http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhi...p?showtopic=12

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHI...howtopic=13500

They are both puppet of notorious Jesuit order witch never forget or forgives anyone that goes up against them. The Zionsts are working for jesuit order. They are hofjuden or in english papal court jews traitor to there own people.
Only loyal to the the Venetian black nobility bloodlines witch are pure Roman catholic gentiles.

Question : Most conspiracy related research only find jewish connections why?

Because Rome hates the Jews and is framing them.

If Rome hates the Jews why dos black nobilty intermarriage with rich jews?

Like this one the guardian of vatican treasure or the vatican banker Jacob Rothschild, the current head of the Rothschild dynasty, has intermarried with the Sinclair family.

It's just all a con. Bottom line is, Rome is making it look like the Jews are to blame. The late Sherman Skolnick called certain Jews "papal court Jews"--these are Jews loyal to the Vatican and, I might add, traitors to their own people.

So it is scame, i have alway fund it stanges that blue bloods would concider marry a jew. I german they are called Hof-Juden

Most of these Jews at the top are not actually racially Jewish, they descend from the northern parts of modern day Turkey. These Jews are always used as a scapegoat and are placed at the front line while behind them you have black nobility, supposed descendants of Cain.

As for the Jews--yep, scapegoat indeed, and a huge smokescreen.

Consult Makow's work on Svali. She stated that the Luciferian elite allow Jews in if they swear off the written Torah and submit to Lucifer and the Babylon Mystery religion. Did you know that according to Makow, Jacob Rothschild is only half a Jew for example?

OK Is the Talmudic law not Luciferian out of the Babylon Mystery religion I think it is?

Because most information out there is from the Intelligensia working for the Pope's, Knights of Malta. Vatican talk was very hard to come about since say the 1940s. Jesuits control all the education giving you hardly any Reformation information. The Talmud is linked with the Babylonians and is nothing to do with the Torah. These followers of the Pontifex Maximus are Sabbatean Frankists following Lucifer.

Its pretty funny how most bookshops sell things related to David Icke,Alex Jones and its pretty hard to find anything written by Eric Jon Phelps

And wasn't it "Rome" that was reported to have created Radical Islamic Fundamentalist "terrorists"?

Create the "problem", generate public demand for a "fix", then create the "fix"

As they say - All roads lead to Rome - the "Revived Roman Empire" and the one world govt., one world religion, one world money

Yes, the Vatican (not Jesuits as they didn't exist in the 8th century) created Islam...they needed hired thugs to take Jerusalem.

Consult Makow's work on Svali. She stated that the Luciferian elite only allow Jews into Illuminati if they swear off the written Torah and submit to Lucifer and the Babylon Mystery religion. The written Torah the true basic for the jewish religion.

Israel

Svali: "The conflict in the Middle East is only to the advantage of the Illuminists. They HATE Israel, and hope one day to see it destroyed, and are biding their time. One of the olive branches offered by the UN when it takes over is that they will prevent war in the Middle East, and this will be greeted with joy by many.

At the same time, the Illuminati covertly supply guns and funds to BOTH sides to keep the conflict fuelled. They are very duplicitous people. They used to funnel guns through the USSR to Palestine, for example, in the name of promoting "friendliness" between the USSR and this state and other Arab nations. Then, the US Illuminists would help funnel guns to Israel, for the same reason.

These people love the game of chess, and see warfare between nations as creating an order out of chaos. The USSR is going to get stronger again. It has too strong a military both openly, and covertly (ALL Illuminati military trainers have visited Russia to learn from them) to sit quietly and quiesciently to the side. In the NWO, they will be stronger than us."

Is the Illuminati a JEWISH conspiracy?

Svali: "Absolutely not. In fact, Hitler and his people (especially Himmler and Goebbels) were top Illuminists. The Illuminati are racist in the extreme, and as a child, I was forced to play "concentration camp" both on my farm in Virginia, and also in Europe in isolated camps in Germany.

The Jews historically fought against the occult (see Deuteronomy and the Old Testament for how God through the Jewish people tried to cleanse the land of the occult groups that were operating there, such as those who worshipped Baal, Ashtarte, and other Canaanite and Babylonian gods.

(from an email to Henry Makow) Yes, there are some very powerful Jewish people in this group. For instance, the Rothschild family literally runs the financial empire in Europe (and indirectly the States), and are a well-known Jewish family. I have also known people whose parents were Jewish diamond merchants in the group, and at every level. But to rise to power in the Illuminati, a Jewish person at night would be forced to renounce their faith, and to give their first allegiance to Lucifer and the beliefs of the Illuminati. In return for this betrayal, they believe that power (financial) and rewards come; and in one sense they do, but at too high a price (losing their eternal soul).

The nazi/concentration camp mentality is very strong, though, and I was told that Hitler, Himmler, Goebel, and others were high-ranking German members of the group (Himmler was higher than the other two), and Mengele their paid puppet as well, who later worked as a high trainer of the American branch between his periods of hiding in South America. They honestly believed that they were acting as agents of their 'gods' to exterminate the Jewish race, and I am so, so sorry that this group has enacted so many horrors on the earth (and so, so glad that I left it).

I hope this helps you. I have always wondered this, though, why some of the highest ranking financial families in the group (baron Rothschild of France is one of the 13 European lords, or "kings" that run the group in Europe, and sits on the World Council) are Jewish, yet the group espouses hatred of their own race."

ARE THEY RACIST?

Svali: "Lots of Illuminists have Fourth Reich programming inside. The Illuminati are racist, and have a very "Aryan" outlook. They believe strongly in the rule of the "pure" and "intelligent" by their definitions, and in their ceremonies, there will occasionally be minorities killed in ceremonies.

They are trying to breed a "genetically superior" race to rule, with their children and descendants. They are also followers of Plato's Republic, and believe that they will be the ones to usher in this "Utopian" rule with the NWO in their opinion. In their Utopia, the intelligentsia will rule, and the sheep like masses will follow their leaders (that is their view of the world; that the occult leaders are "enlightened' and intelligent, while the average person is a "sheep" to be led by the nose)."

Illuminati Defector Details Pervasive Conspiracy

http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html

Zionist Sabbatian Talmudic Masonic Labor Court Apostate Jews
We hear all day long from when we were children that the Jews run everything. This is totally incorrect and it gets installed in the populations so the real shadowy ELders are smokescreened and the Jews take the blame. The Zionist jews of Israel are simply Freemasons and therefore subservant to the Superior General of the Jesuit Order. The U.S is controlled by The Jesuit Vatican and their Mafiosi. If Jews ruled the world then why does Israel need U.S permission to activate their nukes? Why will the Vatican own 60%+ of Jerusalem including Temple Mount, thanks to Jesuit trained Shimon Peres? What gives the impression that Israel rules the U.S is simply because they are both ruled by the Council on Foreign Relations. This of course is controlled by the SMOM and ultimately the Archbishop of New York, Cardinal Egan. Why is it that when Sharon thought he'd annoy the Vatican that he simply gets ELiminated by `The Cup of Borgia' by Vatican spys Peres & Beilin? Then Vatican lackies Olmert, Peres win the ELection and do as the Pope wishes. Peres was straight on a plane for the Vatican after winning!

http://z10.invisionfree.com/The_Unhi...hp?showforum=5

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHI...hp?showforum=5

tagmtl

20-01-2009, 04:58 AM

meksar

20-01-2009, 12:13 PM

I know a lot of you don't want to believe it but the fact that pale skinned and hooked nosed people are the true Israelite's is a complete joke.The whole Khazar thing is the harsh reality of these so called "Jewish" people who are the biggest liars.Read through this thread and understand that there is fundamental reason's why the bible was translated so many times and why black people's history has been hidden more than any other races.The reason why Eric Jon Phelps badmouths black people so much is because he knows the truth and is very much afraid of it becoming common knowledge.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18093

vince2468motorway

20-01-2009, 04:54 PM

As far as i can tell from the research i have been doing over the passed 8 years or so..
Hugo Chavez has quite a good understanding of what is going on in the corridors of the illuminati , And that we are all heading for a dreadfull time at the hands of these zionists in the coming months...

I have also heard and read about the possibilities that barack obama is distantly blood related to george w bush, and it also turns out that george w bush is blood related to queen elizabeth..

Overall,it has a very austrian flavour about it..

Knowing these things, one could easily come to the conclusion that mr obama is more likely than not part of the agenda we are all suffering from..

If this is the case, Then we all know that the elite has no problems with blatantly lying to us, Making mr obamas statements of change useless..

I am for one, More prone to believe that the "change" that will eminate from mr obama will be a fundamental change for the worst..

Martial law,,,, f.e.m.a. The nibiru cover up,, h.a.a.r.p,, Bluebeam project,,
Chemtrails/morgellons,, cell phone towers,, the list of destruction goes on and on.

The only real way to normalise the world population as i see it, Is to make ourselves aware to the point of a singular consciousness comprised of the majoroty of human beings on this planet..

This would bring about the bellitlement of the "new world order" crew and set us all free...
The key factor between now and then is to simply , NOT BE AFRAID...

Fear is our real enemy,,, They know it,,, DO NOT EVEN BE AFRAID OF DYING,, Its the only way..

As time goes on it would do us all well to begin to snub society and its rules and regulations,,

Start by simply refusing to comply to petty laws and taxes, then continue on to seriously question the establishment at all levels...

Why fluoride in our water?
why m.s.g in our food?
why chemtrails?
why wars?
why aspartame? (donald rumsfeld)

And hundreds of other bad things that are too numerous to mention here.

What happened to the herbs glaxo?
Oh yes,, i remember,, The witches were burnt years ago for playing with herbs.

As i see things,, Its a 6000 year plan that has had its run and needs stopping right now before it totally destroys the true destiny of mankind.

Good luck all you lovely real people....

tagmtl

20-01-2009, 07:05 PM

After watching the video below, it really convinced me that he is against the NWO.

IMO and from what I've seen & heard, hes a good guy.

I recommend anyone who hasn't watched the "The Revolution Will not Be Televised" Documentary, to go head and check it out.

THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144&q=venezuela&total=81397&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144&q=venezuela&total=81397&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

Holy smokes i just watched that video never had a clue that they attempted a coup against Chavez.

This is what we need to do people in venezuela standed up and marched to the palace demanding that the constitution be obeyed.

The power of the illuminati is unbelievable but the people didnt give up.

Great video again :)

detroit313

23-01-2009, 07:45 AM

Chavez rules, Iran rulez, China rulez, Vietnam rulez!

Stop thinking the entire world is in on it. If it was, we would of haved the finalized NWO ages ago.

detroit313

23-01-2009, 07:46 AM

Chavez rules, Iran rulez, China rulez, Vietnam rulez!

Stop thinking the entire world is in on it. If it was, we would be living in a finalized NWO ages ago.

tothestars

23-01-2009, 09:24 AM

Chavez rules, Iran rulez, China rulez, Vietnam rulez!

Stop thinking the entire world is in on it. If it was, we would be living in a finalized NWO ages ago.

Now we got Obama on the team as well :)

Looks like NWO are breaking apart :D :D

PS! I am not so sure about China tho but I guess the red and green society is kicking the Illuminati out one by one :)

ILLUMINATI IS GOING DOWN !!!! :D :D :D :D

keenly

23-01-2009, 12:00 PM

Chavez rules, Iran rulez, China rulez, Vietnam rulez!

Stop thinking the entire world is in on it. If it was, we would be living in a finalized NWO ages ago.

wow

china is being built up for a future ww against the U.S

The reason the black pope stepped down is they needed a new supreme general that spoke the language becuase china is THE FUTURE.

vince2468motorway

23-01-2009, 02:38 PM

WHATS THIS ABOUT THEN...

ITS AN OFFICIAL FOREIGN AFFAIRS WEBPAGE FROM THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT..

WAKE UP SHEEPLE.. PLEASE.

http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/eng/

vince2468motorway

23-01-2009, 03:09 PM

wow

china is being built up for a future ww against the U.S

The reason the black pope stepped down is they needed a new supreme general that spoke the language becuase china is THE FUTURE.

AS WITH ALL WARS.... THIS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE SAME PEOPLE FINANCING BOTH SIDES USING THE TAXPAYERS MONEY TO FILL THEIR BANKS.

THEN AS AN ADDED BONUS, THEY GET TO RULE WHOEVER SURVIVES IT..

C.MON SEE THE BIG PICTURE....
IM GETTING TIRED WITH THIS COMPLACENCY.....

SHEEPLE, SHEEPLE,,SHEEPLE,,, BAAAA,,,..

WAKE THE FUCK UP.......................

CHECK AND FOLLOW THIS LINK... IT MIGHT HELP SPEED UP YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS,, STOP DRINKING FLUORIDE...

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

IM NOT BEING STROPPY,,, I LOVE YOU GUYS, BUT PLEASE, WAKE THE FUCK UP.

vince2468motorway

23-01-2009, 03:17 PM

Chavez rules, Iran rulez, China rulez, Vietnam rulez!

Stop thinking the entire world is in on it. If it was, we would be living in a finalized NWO ages ago.

AS WITH ALL WARS.... THIS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE SAME PEOPLE FINANCING BOTH SIDES USING THE TAXPAYERS MONEY TO FILL THEIR BANKS.

THEN AS AN ADDED BONUS, THEY GET TO RULE WHOEVER SURVIVES IT..

C.MON SEE THE BIG PICTURE....
IM GETTING TIRED WITH THIS COMPLACENCY.....

SHEEPLE, SHEEPLE,,SHEEPLE,,, BAAAA,,,..

WAKE THE FUCK UP.......................

CHECK AND FOLLOW THIS LINK... IT MIGHT HELP SPEED UP YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS,, STOP DRINKING FLUORIDE...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kavpH-fzgaw&feature=PlayList&p=173C2D7262625F6E&playnext=1&index=1

IM NOT BEING STROPPY,,, I LOVE YOU GUYS, BUT PLEASE, WAKE THE FUCK UP.

jesuitsdidit

24-01-2009, 11:52 AM

Hugo Chavez Against NWO

bollocks he's Jesuit trained like Castro..

adbasque

24-01-2009, 02:28 PM

Is Hugo Chavez against the Nwo?? in alot of his interviews that ive watched of course he dislikes the Bushes but he speaks of the elite who control the world.

Recently in the news in this article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090118/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_venezuela_referendum;_ylt=AlG2FipEQCmUPaiO_6VcO F1vaA8F

Chavez says this about Obama " that Obama is following orders from the Pentagon. If he doesn't obey the orders of the empire, they'll kill him,"

Doesnt that mean he is aware of an elite thats controling this world ???

Any word what David Icke's opinion is on Chavez ??? good or bad or another puppet ???

What do you guys think of it ???

Thanks for your replies

The Vatican controlled the old world,the Zionist's control the New world and they both have one common ancestor which is Babylon.

I have learnt through the years not to trust a politician, as far as I am concerned, in order to believe if a politician is for real, he has to prove himself, time and time and time and time again, beyond any shadow of a doubt.

You know the human rights, innocent until proven guilty, with politicians, my philosophy is guilty until proven innocent, however I am not saying that Chavez is a nice or bad guy, yes he appear to be against all this NWO business, the bureaucrats (craps) but, I learned to be very vigilant and careful, not to trust the first that appears on world stage,

For years people believed that Fidel Castro was a men's man and he started pretty much like chavez, even better he fought side by side with che guevara
and the end he turned out to be nothing but the NWO little toy, a CIA asset just like Ben laden and many others.

So for me it far too soon to trust him, remember so long as this guys are not behind bars, it means they still have the power, if he was really hurting them, he will be removed.

Just like they did Saddam, he was also their toy and in the end they didn't need him so they removed him, so we think, nobody can be sure, if Saddam was really killed, the guy they showed in the court, didn't look much like him.

Saddam was almost 6.4 he was a huge guy, and the guy they showed was a smaller version of him, remember Saddam had 9 look alike,

So the question remains was it him that was killed? hummm I am not so sure

anyway it doesn't matter he was one of them right from the word go.

adbasque

24-01-2009, 02:34 PM

bollocks he's Jesuit trained like Castro..

I said the same thing ;)
I will not blame him just yet, we wait and see, but I will certainly not trust him either.

But my money is as you said he is a Jesuit, working for the Black Pope, the orders come from the Vatican.

Maybe he has a role to play, to divert some attention from what's happening elsewhere, anyway if he is still standing that means he is one of them.

By leaving him and the Castros and other dictators, they cover their tracks, by leading us to think, that there's no such thing as the Elite, because they want to hide until they are ready to manifest themselves.

Hummm I don't trust a politician.
You're right mate

adbasque

24-01-2009, 02:41 PM

Chavez rules, Iran rulez, China rulez, Vietnam rulez!

Stop thinking the entire world is in on it. If it was, we would of haved the finalized NWO ages ago.

You are right and wrong at the same time, not everybody is in it, if you talk about populations, people of the world yes, but if you talk about politicians No

before he gets elected he is put there by them, and if by accident he was put there by the people, he will be approached, you either work for us or you will be removed, it's your choice.

They have many ways to convince people, they are not playing games, they are nothing but bandits.

I am sure there are lot of people who would like to bring them down, but they see it as a no win situation, so they fear for themselves and their families, they give up in the end.

They are extremely dangerous, don't under estimate them, the guy who created the Federal reserve said we will have our NWO with or without people's consent, meaning the easy way or the hard way.

blueyak

26-01-2009, 12:55 PM

Chavez rules, Iran rulez, China rulez, Vietnam rulez!

Stop thinking the entire world is in on it. If it was, we would of haved the finalized NWO ages ago.
What we are seeing today is to the is not the endgame finale consolidation of power by the Anglo American NWO or what ever else you what to call it ie Zionist/Jesuit satanist. What we are seeing is the loss of control and the desperate losing struggle to retain whats left of that power .The tiny ruling elite's illusion of power is being lost due to there own greed and corruption.

tagmtl

27-01-2009, 09:56 PM

I have learnt through the years not to trust a politician, as far as I am concerned, in order to believe if a politician is for real, he has to prove himself, time and time and time and time again, beyond any shadow of a doubt.

You know the human rights, innocent until proven guilty, with politicians, my philosophy is guilty until proven innocent, however I am not saying that Chavez is a nice or bad guy, yes he appear to be against all this NWO business, the bureaucrats (craps) but, I learned to be very vigilant and careful, not to trust the first that appears on world stage,

For years people believed that Fidel Castro was a men's man and he started pretty much like chavez, even better he fought side by side with che guevara
and the end he turned out to be nothing but the NWO little toy, a CIA asset just like Ben laden and many others.

So for me it far too soon to trust him, remember so long as this guys are not behind bars, it means they still have the power, if he was really hurting them, he will be removed.

Just like they did Saddam, he was also their toy and in the end they didn't need him so they removed him, so we think, nobody can be sure, if Saddam was really killed, the guy they showed in the court, didn't look much like him.

Saddam was almost 6.4 he was a huge guy, and the guy they showed was a smaller version of him, remember Saddam had 9 look alike,

So the question remains was it him that was killed? hummm I am not so sure

anyway it doesn't matter he was one of them right from the word go.

U make a point but u remember the Cuban missile crisis maybe Castro and Russia wanted to wipe out the NWO who knows.

vince2468motorway

28-01-2009, 02:48 PM

Have you guys actually considered that NOBODY rules the world and all the shit that we see is just the ordinary chaos of human interactions?

Im not even going to bother trying to convince you...

Have a happy life slaveboy..

soulja

28-01-2009, 07:30 PM

watch the documentary with that english guy doing a interview with chavez.

at the end of the interview Chavez last words are ''Liberty, Fraternity, Equality''
followed by a big grin cos he knows insiders will have understood the message.

sophia_h

28-01-2009, 08:28 PM

`

What we are seeing today is to the is not the endgame finale consolidation of power by the Anglo American NWO or what ever else you what to call it ie Zionist/Jesuit satanist. What we are seeing is the loss of control and the desperate losing struggle to retain whats left of that power .The tiny ruling elite's illusion of power is being lost due to there own greed and corruption.

blueyak

I fervently pray you are right

If I look at astrological signs and the upbeat phrophecies
you ARE and I hold those visions in eye behind the eyes
from where visions come into material manifestation.

we may be at the threshold of a beautiful Aeon
but there IS much correcting that has to be done

no tyranny goes down without a fight and sadly
this will be a long one

many bright parts but hard changes at same time

Keep seeing them falling apart !

`

detroit313

01-02-2009, 05:53 AM

What we are seeing today is to the is not the endgame finale consolidation of power by the Anglo American NWO or what ever else you what to call it ie Zionist/Jesuit satanist. What we are seeing is the loss of control and the desperate losing struggle to retain whats left of that power .The tiny ruling elite's illusion of power is being lost due to there own greed and corruption.

My GOD!

Finally an enlightened person who is able to see the world as it is right now.

THE ELITE HAS FUCKED UP. THEY ARE GOING DOWN. THEIR OWN GREED HAS GOT TO THEM.

From an economic point of view its really easy to see they are done for. They fucked up with derivatives and the floating currency, basically too much playing games with money to profit more and more.

I cannot explain this in one simple message without getting too technical but let me tell you in simple straight forward terms. THE ELITE IS GOING DOWN and it was their own greed that got to them.

Blueyak, i salute you! :D

14april2000

01-02-2009, 02:22 PM

My GOD!

Finally an enlightened person who is able to see the world as it is right now.

THE ELITE HAS FUCKED UP. THEY ARE GOING DOWN. THEIR OWN GREED HAS GOT TO THEM.

From an economic point of view its really easy to see they are done for. They fucked up with derivatives and the floating currency, basically too much playing games with money to profit more and more.

I cannot explain this in one simple message without getting too technical but let me tell you in simple straight forward terms. THE ELITE IS GOING DOWN and it was their own greed that got to them.

Blueyak, i salute you! :D

Enlighting: So what are the concentration camps below, and what do think they want to use almost 4000
camps? There are both pictures,videos and text.

The concentration camps below are real and they are all based in mainland America there something there is at least real 3708 and new are being build every day. properly also some in the state Hawaii and Alaska.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/march2006/010306tower.jpg
http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2007/080107camp.jpg
Camp Future American Gulag

http://www.americangulag.org/

I can remember as a child being so grateful that I lived in America. I felt that America would always be a bulwark of freedom from oppression and torture. Even the thought of the concentration camps of Nazi Germany and the Gulag prisons of the Soviet Union were enough to send cold shivers down my spine.

Little did I know that during the last 20 years America has been slowly but surely heading down the same slippery slope that is leading us into the land of the AMERICAN GULAG.

Just as big tobacco is in the business of making money off of first promoting drug addiction and then profiting from it, and just as the military-industrial complex profits from selling weapons of destruction to our enemies and then going to war against our customers, so too has the prison-industrial complex become a huge machine that is profiting from the destruction of human lives and in torture and abuse of our own citizens.

The profiteers and bureaucratic parasites that feed off of the misery of millions of hapless Americans have learned that building the AMERICAN GULAG is an industry that has never experienced an economic downturn. Like a festering tumor it just keeps growing and growing, reaching out to victimize both the incarcerated and the incarcerators.

With Nazi-like efficiency, prisoners are treated like animals. Thousands have been dumped into torture chambers far worse than those of the middle ages where at least death came relatively quickly. The ‘super-max’ dungeons of the AMERICAN GULAG are chambers of horror in which human beings are deprived of all that makes a person human.

After the victim has become totally psychotic, the industry knows that they have a life-time customer that can be milked at tax-payer expense until they die decades later. Millions of dollars can be made from each victim of State imposed torture.

Having lived in Huntsville, Texas, ‘THE CITY OF DEATH’ for over half a century, I can attest to some of the evils of the huge industry that leads to not only the physical death of both the innocent as well as the guilty but also moral, ethical, and psychological death as well.

Even the Mayor of ‘THE CITY OF DEATH’ has extolled the virtues of the death penalty as being good for business, and the local newspaper, The Huntsville Item, publishes booster sheets under the heading “Walker County Proud” that promotes the growth of the AMERICAN GULAG as being good for the local economy by providing jobs for a new sub-culture of prison guards that spend so much of their lives locked up with the prisoners that they often begin to behave like the convicts.

The growth of the AMERICAN GULAG is a cancer on our civilization that must be stopped before it consumes us all and destroys America as the ‘land of the free’. At the present rate of growth, almost our entire populace will be made up of the incarcerated and their incarcerators.

THIS PATRIOTIC MESSAGE IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY GEORGE H.
RUSSELL

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thelonious

03-02-2009, 09:14 PM

Chavez is a Socialist, and like all Socialists, he believes that the capitalist elite who control the world's wealth use their power to oppress others.

There's nothing new there, it's been the battle cy of all Socialists throughout history.